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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? " I wouldn't be too surpized, Putin does as he wants and the people of Russia are largely behind him. He is seeing how far he can push it. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? " Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? " Same here, maibe it is an intimidation thing. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? Same here, maibe it is an intimidation thing." Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly | |||
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"Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly " But it is good enough to shoot down a passenger jet flying at over 450 mph at an altitude of 35000 feet and to poison a dissident with polonium in a London hotel and get away with it... 
But I guess that in your opinion both of those were mistakes carried out with second-rate technology by third rate operatives... | |||
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"Isnt russia one of syrias biggest allies along with iran? I cant see what good it would do russia. Its the west that has been wanting regime chsnge in syria for years to get rid of assad. this may just be a case of western propagander. the west probably did it and put the blame on the Russians seeing as weve done stuff like that before I wouldnt put it past us. "  | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? Same here, maibe it is an intimidation thing. Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly " obviously never heard of the su30. Certainly not second rate technology... Quite the opposite actually. We have the second rate technology... | |||
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"Isnt russia one of syrias biggest allies along with iran? I cant see what good it would do russia. Its the west that has been wanting regime chsnge in syria for years to get rid of assad. this may just be a case of western propagander. the west probably did it and put the blame on the Russians seeing as weve done stuff like that before I wouldnt put it past us. " These sites are not in Syrian Govt control. That is why these hospitals were targeted by Russia. No need to look for a conspiracy this time. | |||
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"RAF Typhoons have been scrambled to escort Russian aircraft out of UK aerospace" But is it UK aerospace, or has it been taken over by Eu  | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? " It's a war. One of the unfortunate things about war is that people get killed. The 'West' is in uproar about it, which is one thing as they guy they want to remove (Assad) now has the upper hand so they're crying foul. Stack it against the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen, the 'cost' to the Iraqi people in that war or the mess we used to call Libya &c &c &c Yep. War is shit. At least the Russians are bring people to the negotiating table. And only a political solution can resolve this. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? It's a war. One of the unfortunate things about war is that people get killed. The 'West' is in uproar about it, which is one thing as they guy they want to remove (Assad) now has the upper hand so they're crying foul. Stack it against the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen, the 'cost' to the Iraqi people in that war or the mess we used to call Libya &c &c &c Yep. War is shit. At least the Russians are bring people to the negotiating table. And only a political solution can resolve this." The Syrian people wanted Assad to open up as he was seen as a new generation of arab leadership and he replied with mass murder that sparked a civil war. Don't think the West in this case encouraged Assad to make that choice. | |||
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"RAF Typhoons have been scrambled to escort Russian aircraft out of UK aerospace" . No they were HEADING for UK airspace! I have two good friends in the RAF they told me this has been going on for years and years, although there was a lull after the Soviet collapse Apparently we do the same and they intercept us!. Turkey shot that Russian plane down for a 14 second incursion (that's turkeys version).. The Greek pm tweeted it's a good job Greece isn't that severe as Turkey has entered Greek air space 156 times that year!. It's a game of chess | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? It's a war. One of the unfortunate things about war is that people get killed. The 'West' is in uproar about it, which is one thing as they guy they want to remove (Assad) now has the upper hand so they're crying foul. Stack it against the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen, the 'cost' to the Iraqi people in that war or the mess we used to call Libya &c &c &c Yep. War is shit. At least the Russians are bring people to the negotiating table. And only a political solution can resolve this. The Syrian people wanted Assad to open up as he was seen as a new generation of arab leadership and he replied with mass murder that sparked a civil war. Don't think the West in this case encouraged Assad to make that choice." ..There'll be no negotiations, every sides a fucking nutjob, it's just some nutjobs are our nujobs!. One side of Raqqa gets pounded by Assad's troops and the other side by rebel troops... There's no kind and generous side.. Just winners and losers  | |||
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"Difference between Russian RoE amd ours. We require PID (Positive ID) for any target before any ordnance is released, after a target has been officially classified as a genuine target/hostile. The Russians basically draw a box on a map. Anything inside the box is bad amd can be bombed.." . Yeah but honestly that's more propaganda, the west has been caught many times shooting the fuck out of innocents during Iraq, we fire bombed Dresden, Tokyo, Berlin, napalmed most of Vietnam, invented the idea of concentration camps, killed a 100,000 Chinese because they refused to sell us opium... Nobody's rosy in war but at least nation states hold to some sort of code mostly!. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? It's a war. One of the unfortunate things about war is that people get killed. The 'West' is in uproar about it, which is one thing as they guy they want to remove (Assad) now has the upper hand so they're crying foul. Stack it against the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen, the 'cost' to the Iraqi people in that war or the mess we used to call Libya &c &c &c Yep. War is shit. At least the Russians are bring people to the negotiating table. And only a political solution can resolve this. The Syrian people wanted Assad to open up as he was seen as a new generation of arab leadership and he replied with mass murder that sparked a civil war. Don't think the West in this case encouraged Assad to make that choice." Ah, Bashar Al Assad. That nice ophthalmologist from London who would have been a happy soul had his elder brother, heir apparent, died in a car crash, catapulted him in to the succession. I have a vague feeling he had moderating ideas but when face with a coterie of entrenched factions and groups within the state, security and family... turned out it's not so easy to be nice after all. I weep for Syria. | |||
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"Difference between Russian RoE amd ours. We require PID (Positive ID) for any target before any ordnance is released, after a target has been officially classified as a genuine target/hostile. The Russians basically draw a box on a map. Anything inside the box is bad amd can be bombed... Yeah but honestly that's more propaganda, the west has been caught many times shooting the fuck out of innocents during Iraq, we fire bombed Dresden, Tokyo, Berlin, napalmed most of Vietnam, invented the idea of concentration camps, killed a 100,000 Chinese because they refused to sell us opium... Nobody's rosy in war but at least nation states hold to some sort of code mostly!." Let's not forget we also gifted Palestine to the Jews just because we could.. Look at the genocide happening there. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? It's a war. One of the unfortunate things about war is that people get killed. The 'West' is in uproar about it, which is one thing as they guy they want to remove (Assad) now has the upper hand so they're crying foul. Stack it against the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen, the 'cost' to the Iraqi people in that war or the mess we used to call Libya &c &c &c Yep. War is shit. At least the Russians are bring people to the negotiating table. And only a political solution can resolve this." That is right and as well someone said they are allies to them, so makes no sense why they would do that in the first place. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? It's a war. One of the unfortunate things about war is that people get killed. The 'West' is in uproar about it, which is one thing as they guy they want to remove (Assad) now has the upper hand so they're crying foul. Stack it against the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen, the 'cost' to the Iraqi people in that war or the mess we used to call Libya &c &c &c Yep. War is shit. At least the Russians are bring people to the negotiating table. And only a political solution can resolve this.That is right and as well someone said they are allies to them, so makes no sense why they would do that in the first place." Because war is a *very* messy business. You say war crimes; I say collateral damage | |||
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"Isnt russia one of syrias biggest allies along with iran? I cant see what good it would do russia. Its the west that has been wanting regime chsnge in syria for years to get rid of assad. this may just be a case of western propagander. the west probably did it and put the blame on the Russians seeing as weve done stuff like that before I wouldnt put it past us. " | |||
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"Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly But it is good enough to shoot down a passenger jet flying at over 450 mph at an altitude of 35000 feet and to poison a dissident with polonium in a London hotel and get away with it...
But I guess that in your opinion both of those were mistakes carried out with second-rate technology by third rate operatives..."You think shooting down a passenger jet is the height of sophistication for military technology!?!? | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? Same here, maibe it is an intimidation thing. Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly obviously never heard of the su30. Certainly not second rate technology... Quite the opposite actually. We have the second rate technology..." I'm very well aware of the SU-30 and the difference between its claimed performance and actual performance. Russia has better tanks than us but it's Air Force sucks. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? It's a war. One of the unfortunate things about war is that people get killed. The 'West' is in uproar about it, which is one thing as they guy they want to remove (Assad) now has the upper hand so they're crying foul. Stack it against the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen, the 'cost' to the Iraqi people in that war or the mess we used to call Libya &c &c &c Yep. War is shit. At least the Russians are bring people to the negotiating table. And only a political solution can resolve this.That is right and as well someone said they are allies to them, so makes no sense why they would do that in the first place. Because war is a *very* messy business. You say war crimes; I say collateral damage " Yup, sad to say that in war its inevitable that innocents will get caught in the cross fire, collateral damage is a harsh reality of conflict and both sides will try to use it in their propaganda. | |||
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"That is right and as well someone said they are allies to them, so makes no sense why they would do that in the first place." But as another poster pointed out, these areas of Syria are not under government control. That's why Russia is bombing them for Assad. Russia makes no distinction between daesh and other militias that are also against daesh, but are against Aassad. The west is constantly urging putrid to stop bombing those forces that are against daesh, but Russia has strategic interests in the country and will do anything to prop up asshole. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? Same here, maibe it is an intimidation thing. Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly obviously never heard of the su30. Certainly not second rate technology... Quite the opposite actually. We have the second rate technology... I'm very well aware of the SU-30 and the difference between its claimed performance and actual performance. Russia has better tanks than us but it's Air Force sucks. " Yeah, Russia sucks at that stuff. They only invented stealth and thrust vectoring, but who cares. The SU30 can pretty much out fly anything currently in the sky. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? Same here, maibe it is an intimidation thing. Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly obviously never heard of the su30. Certainly not second rate technology... Quite the opposite actually. We have the second rate technology... I'm very well aware of the SU-30 and the difference between its claimed performance and actual performance. Russia has better tanks than us but it's Air Force sucks. Yeah, Russia sucks at that stuff. They only invented stealth and thrust vectoring, but who cares. The SU30 can pretty much out fly anything currently in the sky." You're basing that assumption on what? | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? Same here, maibe it is an intimidation thing. Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly obviously never heard of the su30. Certainly not second rate technology... Quite the opposite actually. We have the second rate technology... I'm very well aware of the SU-30 and the difference between its claimed performance and actual performance. Russia has better tanks than us but it's Air Force sucks. Yeah, Russia sucks at that stuff. They only invented stealth and thrust vectoring, but who cares. The SU30 can pretty much out fly anything currently in the sky. You're basing that assumption on what?" Based on several military analysts that I know well. In a dogfight the SU30 will out manoeuvre anything the west could throw against it. The Russian stealth fighter (PAK-FA T50 currently undergoing flight trials) has western air forces very worried indeed and it has very similar flight control computers and systems and the radar they both carry is said to be devastating and capable of destroying the guidance systems of missiles fired at it. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? Same here, maibe it is an intimidation thing. Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly obviously never heard of the su30. Certainly not second rate technology... Quite the opposite actually. We have the second rate technology... I'm very well aware of the SU-30 and the difference between its claimed performance and actual performance. Russia has better tanks than us but it's Air Force sucks. Yeah, Russia sucks at that stuff. They only invented stealth and thrust vectoring, but who cares. The SU30 can pretty much out fly anything currently in the sky. You're basing that assumption on what? Based on several military analysts that I know well. In a dogfight the SU30 will out manoeuvre anything the west could throw against it. The Russian stealth fighter (PAK-FA T50 currently undergoing flight trials) has western air forces very worried indeed and it has very similar flight control computers and systems and the radar they both carry is said to be devastating and capable of destroying the guidance systems of missiles fired at it." OK let's assume that's true then, why is it a flop on the export market then? India chose to ditch their russian planes in favour of French one (FYI: I'm basing a lot of my criticism on their feedback). Thailand neglected the opportunity to buy SU-30's too opting for the Gripen. I mean Thailand don't want it... seriously... | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? Same here, maibe it is an intimidation thing. Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly obviously never heard of the su30. Certainly not second rate technology... Quite the opposite actually. We have the second rate technology... I'm very well aware of the SU-30 and the difference between its claimed performance and actual performance. Russia has better tanks than us but it's Air Force sucks. Yeah, Russia sucks at that stuff. They only invented stealth and thrust vectoring, but who cares. The SU30 can pretty much out fly anything currently in the sky. You're basing that assumption on what? Based on several military analysts that I know well. In a dogfight the SU30 will out manoeuvre anything the west could throw against it. The Russian stealth fighter (PAK-FA T50 currently undergoing flight trials) has western air forces very worried indeed and it has very similar flight control computers and systems and the radar they both carry is said to be devastating and capable of destroying the guidance systems of missiles fired at it. OK let's assume that's true then, why is it a flop on the export market then? India chose to ditch their russian planes in favour of French one (FYI: I'm basing a lot of my criticism on their feedback). Thailand neglected the opportunity to buy SU-30's too opting for the Gripen. I mean Thailand don't want it... seriously... " Because of pressure from the west mostly. America told the world no one else would have 5th gen aircraft for 20yrs and the French have always used underhand tactic to sell arms (look at the Israeli air force history for that). Russia just quietly gets on with building solid aircraft and then showing them to the world when they least expect it. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? Cui Bono? I fail to see what strategic purpose would it serve? Same here, maibe it is an intimidation thing. Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly obviously never heard of the su30. Certainly not second rate technology... Quite the opposite actually. We have the second rate technology... I'm very well aware of the SU-30 and the difference between its claimed performance and actual performance. Russia has better tanks than us but it's Air Force sucks. Yeah, Russia sucks at that stuff. They only invented stealth and thrust vectoring, but who cares. The SU30 can pretty much out fly anything currently in the sky. You're basing that assumption on what? Based on several military analysts that I know well. In a dogfight the SU30 will out manoeuvre anything the west could throw against it. The Russian stealth fighter (PAK-FA T50 currently undergoing flight trials) has western air forces very worried indeed and it has very similar flight control computers and systems and the radar they both carry is said to be devastating and capable of destroying the guidance systems of missiles fired at it. OK let's assume that's true then, why is it a flop on the export market then? India chose to ditch their russian planes in favour of French one (FYI: I'm basing a lot of my criticism on their feedback). Thailand neglected the opportunity to buy SU-30's too opting for the Gripen. I mean Thailand don't want it... seriously... Because of pressure from the west mostly. America told the world no one else would have 5th gen aircraft for 20yrs and the French have always used underhand tactic to sell arms (look at the Israeli air force history for that). Russia just quietly gets on with building solid aircraft and then showing them to the world when they least expect it." It's not an issue I can say you're definately wrong or I'm definately right as most the info isn't in the public domain. I can just say that the Indian Air Force said they suffered from poor availability and reliability. 60-70% of the time, countries stick with the incumbent supplier of aircraft so it usually takes something special for them to change. Gripen, Mirage, F-35 and Typhoon are all more expensive so I struggle with the idea that there are too many governments willing to pay more money to get less capable aircraft. Maybe you know something I don't and they are better, but based on their customer list, I don't see anyone buying them if they can afford more, hence my term "second rate". | |||
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"RAF Typhoons have been scrambled to escort Russian aircraft out of UK aerospace. No they were HEADING for UK airspace! I have two good friends in the RAF they told me this has been going on for years and years, although there was a lull after the Soviet collapse Apparently we do the same and they intercept us!. Turkey shot that Russian plane down for a 14 second incursion (that's turkeys version).. The Greek pm tweeted it's a good job Greece isn't that severe as Turkey has entered Greek air space 156 times that year!. It's a game of chess" yes, it's a psychological challenge but also a way of testing air defences. On the subject of Syria; it looks like we are in the end game - how everyone can extract themselves with honour and with some political gain. TBH and counter-intuitively I think the Russians have done some good here in bringing the war to an end. We will see how the peace works out....and all guns on ISIS. | |||
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"Russia just quietly gets on with building solid aircraft and then showing them to the world when they least expect it." Like they did after Rolls Royce sold their jet engines to them | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? It's a war. One of the unfortunate things about war is that people get killed. The 'West' is in uproar about it, which is one thing as they guy they want to remove (Assad) now has the upper hand so they're crying foul. Stack it against the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen, the 'cost' to the Iraqi people in that war or the mess we used to call Libya &c &c &c Yep. War is shit. At least the Russians are bring people to the negotiating table. And only a political solution can resolve this. The Syrian people wanted Assad to open up as he was seen as a new generation of arab leadership and he replied with mass murder that sparked a civil war. Don't think the West in this case encouraged Assad to make that choice. Ah, Bashar Al Assad. That nice ophthalmologist from London who would have been a happy soul had his elder brother, heir apparent, died in a car crash, catapulted him in to the succession. I have a vague feeling he had moderating ideas but when face with a coterie of entrenched factions and groups within the state, security and family... turned out it's not so easy to be nice after all. I weep for Syria. " . His university educted wife, who's British and a sunni... Coincidentally tried her hand at investment banking in London.. Before thinking mmmm yeah... I'm not that much of an evil fucker.. I'm off to be a dictators wife instead  | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? " It's well documented that the low life's hide in schools and hospitals thinking they will be safe there... shows what they think of the peeps they're 'supposedly' fighting for... | |||
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"Russia just quietly gets on with building solid aircraft and then showing them to the world when they least expect it. Like they did after Rolls Royce sold their jet engines to them "And the Americans sell their weapons to the highest bidder.. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? It's a war. One of the unfortunate things about war is that people get killed. The 'West' is in uproar about it, which is one thing as they guy they want to remove (Assad) now has the upper hand so they're crying foul. Stack it against the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen, the 'cost' to the Iraqi people in that war or the mess we used to call Libya &c &c &c Yep. War is shit. At least the Russians are bring people to the negotiating table. And only a political solution can resolve this. The Syrian people wanted Assad to open up as he was seen as a new generation of arab leadership and he replied with mass murder that sparked a civil war. Don't think the West in this case encouraged Assad to make that choice. Ah, Bashar Al Assad. That nice ophthalmologist from London who would have been a happy soul had his elder brother, heir apparent, died in a car crash, catapulted him in to the succession. I have a vague feeling he had moderating ideas but when face with a coterie of entrenched factions and groups within the state, security and family... turned out it's not so easy to be nice after all. I weep for Syria. . His university educted wife, who's British and a sunni... Coincidentally tried her hand at investment banking in London.. Before thinking mmmm yeah... I'm not that much of an evil fucker.. I'm off to be a dictators wife instead "lol you can't be a Sunni muslim and an investment banker. It's haram. | |||
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"Russia just quietly gets on with building solid aircraft and then showing them to the world when they least expect it. Like they did after Rolls Royce sold their jet engines to them
And the Americans sell their weapons to the highest bidder.."I presume you're an expert in FMS then... Who have they sold the F-22 to then? | |||
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"Russia just quietly gets on with building solid aircraft and then showing them to the world when they least expect it. Like they did after Rolls Royce sold their jet engines to them
And the Americans sell their weapons to the highest bidder..
I presume you're an expert in FMS then... Who have they sold the F-22 to then? "The Americans will tell you Isis gained possession of us weapons from defeated enemy bases... hmm easy cop out if the public believe... f22.. no idea. | |||
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"Russia just quietly gets on with building solid aircraft and then showing them to the world when they least expect it. Like they did after Rolls Royce sold their jet engines to them "I wasn't aware money changed hands. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? It's a war. One of the unfortunate things about war is that people get killed. The 'West' is in uproar about it, which is one thing as they guy they want to remove (Assad) now has the upper hand so they're crying foul. Stack it against the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen, the 'cost' to the Iraqi people in that war or the mess we used to call Libya &c &c &c Yep. War is shit. At least the Russians are bring people to the negotiating table. And only a political solution can resolve this. The Syrian people wanted Assad to open up as he was seen as a new generation of arab leadership and he replied with mass murder that sparked a civil war. Don't think the West in this case encouraged Assad to make that choice." As usual the west stuck it's oar in encouraging people to 'fight for democracy' and 'human rights' as it has done previously across the Middle East or has Iraq, Libya, Egypt, et al washed by you? Western agitators looking to unseat what has been a very stable and secular country, in a quite unstable region, for what reason? Because he is supported by Russia and, wait for it, Oil and Gas supply. Assad was doing a good job until those true democratic champions of Cameron, Obama, Hollande and even Merkel started chosping off. Well done Putin who after watching the west stand by and cause and watch the pointless slaughter of thousands of innocents, has acted decisively and leaves out politicians with egg on their faces. Sad that people have to die in war but when our politicians play power games, that's what happens. It might have been Russian munitions, but ironic that it was all caught in wonderful colour and high definition by western media camera. Coincidence? I doubt it. More western media trying to blame the big bad bear. | |||
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"With satellites that can read newspapers from outer space it must be possible to track and identify all aircraft, civil or military. Until we know I wouldn't jump to conclusions about who is responsible. The civil war in Syria is a filthy business. The whole wretched business is a result of the British government's attempt to destabilise a sovereign nation. They destabilised Libya and now ISIS reigns supreme there. I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of the mouths of this Tory government. When will they ever learn ?" Here here ! | |||
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"Russia just quietly gets on with building solid aircraft and then showing them to the world when they least expect it. Like they did after Rolls Royce sold their jet engines to them
And the Americans sell their weapons to the highest bidder..
I presume you're an expert in FMS then... Who have they sold the F-22 to then?
The Americans will tell you Isis gained possession of us weapons from defeated enemy bases... hmm easy cop out if the public believe... f22.. no idea."It was a trick question, America won't export the F-22 even though countries like Japan want to buy it. America routinely refuses to sell it's best technology at all, let alone to the highest bidder. That's the primary reason the Saudis are flying around in Tornados and Typhoons as an aside. What exactly is ISIS using that is especially sophisticated? Every man and his dog can sell you an AK47, RPG or a surface to air missile. There's no real need to pay American prices for commodity items. Even North Korea sell them ffs! | |||
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"you said... Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly" I said... "But it is good enough to shoot down a passenger jet flying at over 450 mph at an altitude of 35000 feet and to poison a dissident with polonium in a London hotel and get away with it...
But I guess that in your opinion both of those were mistakes carried out with second-rate technology by third rate operatives..."you said... "You think shooting down a passenger jet is the height of sophistication for military technology!?!? " No I am sure that targeting systems can do much better than that... However I am not so blind to the obvious that I cant recognise that if a military power has the capability to HIT a target MOVING at over 450MPH over 35000 Feet overhead then targeting a STATIC target on the ground is not that hard! No mater how you dismiss their technology as second rate! | |||
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"you said... Could be, I'd guess it was a mistake though. Russian military technology is... second rate frankly I said... But it is good enough to shoot down a passenger jet flying at over 450 mph at an altitude of 35000 feet and to poison a dissident with polonium in a London hotel and get away with it...
But I guess that in your opinion both of those were mistakes carried out with second-rate technology by third rate operatives...
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You think shooting down a passenger jet is the height of sophistication for military technology!?!?
No I am sure that targeting systems can do much better than that...
However I am not so blind to the obvious that I cant recognise that if a military power has the capability to HIT a target MOVING at over 450MPH over 35000 Feet overhead then targeting a STATIC target on the ground is not that hard! No mater how you dismiss their technology as second rate!"Yes but you are assuming it was deliberate and I'm assuming it was accidental. | |||
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"So we are back to my original comment... Do you think the the downing of the civilian jet over Ukraine or the poisoning of a Russian dissident with a nuclear Polonium in London were accidental? " Don't know the details of the first one but the latter one sounds deliberate! | |||
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"So we are back to my original comment... Do you think the the downing of the civilian jet over Ukraine or the poisoning of a Russian dissident with a nuclear Polonium in London were accidental? Don't know the details of the first one but the latter one sounds deliberate!" OK, so you accept that the government of Russia is willing to send agents into a foreign country with a radioactive substance, and use it to poison someone it disapproves of without regard of how many innocents are killed or endangered by their actions. But will not believe that the same government will use cluster bombs to kill those who oppose and are trying to overthrow one of their client state governments. Can you spot the inconsistency in you position? | |||
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"So we are back to my original comment... Do you think the the downing of the civilian jet over Ukraine or the poisoning of a Russian dissident with a nuclear Polonium in London were accidental? Don't know the details of the first one but the latter one sounds deliberate! OK, so you accept that the government of Russia is willing to send agents into a foreign country with a radioactive substance, and use it to poison someone it disapproves of without regard of how many innocents are killed or endangered by their actions. But will not believe that the same government will use cluster bombs to kill those who oppose and are trying to overthrow one of their client state governments. Can you spot the inconsistency in you position? " Don't forget the Beslan school siege.. | |||
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"So we are back to my original comment... Do you think the the downing of the civilian jet over Ukraine or the poisoning of a Russian dissident with a nuclear Polonium in London were accidental? Don't know the details of the first one but the latter one sounds deliberate! OK, so you accept that the government of Russia is willing to send agents into a foreign country with a radioactive substance, and use it to poison someone it disapproves of without regard of how many innocents are killed or endangered by their actions. But will not believe that the same government will use cluster bombs to kill those who oppose and are trying to overthrow one of their client state governments. Can you spot the inconsistency in you position? " No. I presume the hospital was originally built by the Syrian government and they'd like it back sometime. I don't really see the benefit to Russia of deliberately targeting a hospital and find the poisoning example irrelevant. | |||
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"So we are back to my original comment... Do you think the the downing of the civilian jet over Ukraine or the poisoning of a Russian dissident with a nuclear Polonium in London were accidental? " . do you actually think they poisoned him with a slow painful death by accident... Like they had no fucking clue!!!. They poisoned him exactly how they wanted, a long slow obvious to observers death. Ie anybody else wanna try... Here's the end result, it's exactly the mo of Russian action | |||
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"So we are back to my original comment... Do you think the the downing of the civilian jet over Ukraine or the poisoning of a Russian dissident with a nuclear Polonium in London were accidental? . do you actually think they poisoned him with a slow painful death by accident... Like they had no fucking clue!!!. They poisoned him exactly how they wanted, a long slow obvious to observers death. Ie anybody else wanna try... Here's the end result, it's exactly the mo of Russian action" I think that's the point he was making honey | |||
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"So we are back to my original comment... Do you think the the downing of the civilian jet over Ukraine or the poisoning of a Russian dissident with a nuclear Polonium in London were accidental? . do you actually think they poisoned him with a slow painful death by accident... Like they had no fucking clue!!!. They poisoned him exactly how they wanted, a long slow obvious to observers death. Ie anybody else wanna try... Here's the end result, it's exactly the mo of Russian action I think that's the point he was making honey " . The Russians don't have morals, they have actions and counter actions, perfectly predictable!. Of course if you look around... You'll see plenty of other people who died similar deaths... Think Arab and anti Western | |||
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"So we are back to my original comment... Do you think the the downing of the civilian jet over Ukraine or the poisoning of a Russian dissident with a nuclear Polonium in London were accidental? . do you actually think they poisoned him with a slow painful death by accident... Like they had no fucking clue!!!. They poisoned him exactly how they wanted, a long slow obvious to observers death. Ie anybody else wanna try... Here's the end result, it's exactly the mo of Russian action I think that's the point he was making honey . The Russians don't have morals, they have actions and counter actions, perfectly predictable!. Of course if you look around... You'll see plenty of other people who died similar deaths... Think Arab and anti Western" Yep 143.5m Russians and not a moral between them | |||
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"So we are back to my original comment... Do you think the the downing of the civilian jet over Ukraine or the poisoning of a Russian dissident with a nuclear Polonium in London were accidental? . do you actually think they poisoned him with a slow painful death by accident... Like they had no fucking clue!!!. They poisoned him exactly how they wanted, a long slow obvious to observers death. Ie anybody else wanna try... Here's the end result, it's exactly the mo of Russian action I think that's the point he was making honey . The Russians don't have morals, they have actions and counter actions, perfectly predictable!. Of course if you look around... You'll see plenty of other people who died similar deaths... Think Arab and anti Western Yep 143.5m Russians and not a moral between them ". Morality is a fine line when your dealing with big problems!. The only difference between Russia and the west.... Is there willing to put their morality out there, where as we hide ours!. Like I said look around, you'll see a few leaders we disliked, died the exact same death | |||
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"Like I said look around, you'll see a few leaders we disliked, died the exact same death" It's taken 2.5m dead, 11m displaced over 5 years and now the Russians are turning the tide everyone wants to talk... Hmmm... | |||
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"been russian bombers escorted back out of uk airspace today " . For the last time... They never fucking got to UK airspace  | |||
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"been russian bombers escorted back out of uk airspace today . For the last time... They never fucking got to UK airspace "wow chill out haha , first time av mentioned it unless im a sleep typer | |||
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"been russian bombers escorted back out of uk airspace today . For the last time... They never fucking got to UK airspace
wow chill out haha , first time av mentioned it unless im a sleep typer
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"been russian bombers escorted back out of uk airspace today . For the last time... They never fucking got to UK airspace
wow chill out haha , first time av mentioned it unless im a sleep typer
". No somebody else stated the same! Language is highly emotive.. You know inside UK airspace being escorted out... In reality it's bollocks, they weren't inside UK airspace but came close, it's exactly what we do to Russia!. You ever notice how Palestinians are killed but Israelis are murdered... I'm not declaring favourites but language leads people to the wrong ideas | |||
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"Like I said look around, you'll see a few leaders we disliked, died the exact same death It's taken 2.5m dead, 11m displaced over 5 years and now the Russians are turning the tide everyone wants to talk... Hmmm.... I'm not defending the Russians, I'm just saying people need to really take a look at the behind the scenes shit before declaring West/good Russia/bad. We've been at war with Russia for all intense and purposes since the October revolution despite them never threatening the west... That alone should tell you something" I'm not defending them either - I'm just saying that previously it would have been the US who sorted this shit out... | |||
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"been russian bombers escorted back out of uk airspace today . For the last time... They never fucking got to UK airspace
wow chill out haha , first time av mentioned it unless im a sleep typer
what direction was they headed ? before bing told do a hand brake turn and go back the way they came ". Again that's just bollocks.. Your completely free to fly in international air space as much as you like... Although countries will defend that airspace outside it.... I can show you dozens of clips of US planes flying within a few miles of Chinese airspace or NATO flying within a few miles of Russian airspace! | |||
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"Like I said look around, you'll see a few leaders we disliked, died the exact same death It's taken 2.5m dead, 11m displaced over 5 years and now the Russians are turning the tide everyone wants to talk... Hmmm.... I'm not defending the Russians, I'm just saying people need to really take a look at the behind the scenes shit before declaring West/good Russia/bad. We've been at war with Russia for all intense and purposes since the October revolution despite them never threatening the west... That alone should tell you something I'm not defending them either - I'm just saying that previously it would have been the US who sorted this shit out..." . Power corrupts and the biggest weild the biggest stick. That's why I don't want anything to do with the EU... I've read to much history, I know what's coming | |||
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"been russian bombers escorted back out of uk airspace today . For the last time... They never fucking got to UK airspace
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wow chill out haha , first time av mentioned it unless im a sleep typer
You know this happens a few times most months right? "no i had no idea | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? " . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture | |||
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"Like I said look around, you'll see a few leaders we disliked, died the exact same death It's taken 2.5m dead, 11m displaced over 5 years and now the Russians are turning the tide everyone wants to talk... Hmmm.... I'm not defending the Russians, I'm just saying people need to really take a look at the behind the scenes shit before declaring West/good Russia/bad. We've been at war with Russia for all intense and purposes since the October revolution despite them never threatening the west... That alone should tell you something I'm not defending them either - I'm just saying that previously it would have been the US who sorted this shit out.... Power corrupts and the biggest weild the biggest stick. That's why I don't want anything to do with the EU... I've read to much history, I know what's coming" what ya thinks coming ? a scud or a hellfire | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture" so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ? | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?" . I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for | |||
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wow chill out haha , first time av mentioned it unless im a sleep typer
You know this happens a few times most months right?
no i had no idea "OK, it does. It's a routine operation that the Russians run because they want to record the time it takes them to be intercepted. They turn around with no problems, maybe even a smile and a thumbs up. It's all about testing reaction time. But there won't be any thumbs up come the revolution... | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for" Fuck you, I'm all for getting on a boat and taking back the empire - starting with Uncle Sam... | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for" theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for Fuck you, I'm all for getting on a boat and taking back the empire - starting with Uncle Sam... " . People invade things for a reason, you know this, it's just like eroei... You want a return on your capital investment! | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us " . I'd stick with the day job | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for Fuck you, I'm all for getting on a boat and taking back the empire - starting with Uncle Sam... . People invade things for a reason, you know this, it's just like eroei... You want a return on your capital investment!" America has lots of things we'd like, it was a good colony back in the day | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us . I'd stick with the day job" and if folk willing to stand up and fight for there country then you may not have a job | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us . I'd stick with the day job and if folk willing to stand up and fight for there country then you may not have a job " if folk aint | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for Fuck you, I'm all for getting on a boat and taking back the empire - starting with Uncle Sam... . People invade things for a reason, you know this, it's just like eroei... You want a return on your capital investment! America has lots of things we'd like, it was a good colony back in the day " . How much expenditure in taking it? And how much do you get back | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us " Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us . I'd stick with the day job and if folk willing to stand up and fight for there country then you may not have a job if folk aint" . Firstly you know the quickest way to the US from Russia is not via the uk don't you!. I mean there's several countries between the UK and Russia and there's like a great big fucking ocean... Not great for a sneak attack | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... " all the ones we have invaded | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us . I'd stick with the day job and if folk willing to stand up and fight for there country then you may not have a job if folk aint. Firstly you know the quickest way to the US from Russia is not via the uk don't you!. I mean there's several countries between the UK and Russia and there's like a great big fucking ocean... Not great for a sneak attack" have you seen the size of russia and how much world power they actually do have , they wouldnt need to sneak lol | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... all the ones we have invaded " So you're saying that Iraq is going to take up arms and come invade the UK? You don't think the countries in between will notice? | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... all the ones we have invaded So you're saying that Iraq is going to take up arms and come invade the UK? You don't think the countries in between will notice?" amongst other neighbouring countries nyes , the likeliness of an attack on the uk is higly likely , are you forgetting that we are on a hightened terror alert ? | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... " . What historically, France, Germany, Spain, Denmark and Italy... In reality nobody these days!. Those days are long gone!. Now we just make shit up to invade third world shit holes while we fleece it for resources!.... There's a difference between convincing idiots into thinking Germany's a problem and Irans a problem | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... all the ones we have invaded So you're saying that Iraq is going to take up arms and come invade the UK? You don't think the countries in between will notice? amongst other neighbouring countries nyes , the likeliness of an attack on the uk is higly likely , are you forgetting that we are on a hightened terror alert ?" OK so we should expect a call from the French in the next few years: "excuse us but we wanted to let you know that Iraqi tanks have entered le tunnel"? Or perhaps you were thinking outside the box about how Iraq could use 3D printing to sneak their army across our borders and seize London by morning? | |||
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"There's money in conflict, there more in defence." Where did you get that from? There's a lot more in conflict!! Defence company profits are miserable and below market averages. Do you know how much money you can make by holding on to a Congo diamond mine?!? | |||
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"There's money in conflict, there more in defence." . Your correct. The usa spends roughly the same amount on Defence as the next 12 countries ,10 of which are allies. The world's largest air force is the us air force followed by... The US navy Who the fuck do the yanks think are invading... Martians  | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... all the ones we have invaded So you're saying that Iraq is going to take up arms and come invade the UK? You don't think the countries in between will notice? amongst other neighbouring countries nyes , the likeliness of an attack on the uk is higly likely , are you forgetting that we are on a hightened terror alert ? OK so we should expect a call from the French in the next few years: "excuse us but we wanted to let you know that Iraqi tanks have entered le tunnel"? Or perhaps you were thinking outside the box about how Iraq could use 3D printing to sneak their army across our borders and seize London by morning? " who said a fukin thing about tanks or metal at all , do you not think that there trained in the art of close combat , ripping anothers head clean off with bare hands ? | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... all the ones we have invaded So you're saying that Iraq is going to take up arms and come invade the UK? You don't think the countries in between will notice? amongst other neighbouring countries nyes , the likeliness of an attack on the uk is higly likely , are you forgetting that we are on a hightened terror alert ? OK so we should expect a call from the French in the next few years: "excuse us but we wanted to let you know that Iraqi tanks have entered le tunnel"? Or perhaps you were thinking outside the box about how Iraq could use 3D printing to sneak their army across our borders and seize London by morning? who said a fukin thing about tanks or metal at all , do you not think that there trained in the art of close combat , ripping anothers head clean off with bare hands ? Just out of interest, how would the Iraqi army get here? Are you suggesting that they all get on an easyjet flight or a cruise ship and then storm London without firing a shot? It does sound like that's what you think... " lest end this right now , do you think an invasion on the uk is totally impossible ? | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... all the ones we have invaded So you're saying that Iraq is going to take up arms and come invade the UK? You don't think the countries in between will notice? amongst other neighbouring countries nyes , the likeliness of an attack on the uk is higly likely , are you forgetting that we are on a hightened terror alert ? OK so we should expect a call from the French in the next few years: "excuse us but we wanted to let you know that Iraqi tanks have entered le tunnel"? Or perhaps you were thinking outside the box about how Iraq could use 3D printing to sneak their army across our borders and seize London by morning? who said a fukin thing about tanks or metal at all , do you not think that there trained in the art of close combat , ripping anothers head clean off with bare hands ? Just out of interest, how would the Iraqi army get here? Are you suggesting that they all get on an easyjet flight or a cruise ship and then storm London without firing a shot? It does sound like that's what you think... lest end this right now , do you think an invasion on the uk is totally impossible ?" I don't think anything is totally impossible, just on the list of things I'm going to worry about in the coming months, being invaded is rather low down the list is all Bless you for no accusing the Chinese though, it's usually them who get accused on here | |||
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Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity ". Aha turnover is paid for by the idiots while profit is made by the people who dreamed this bollocks up. I honestly thought kitcheners poster was past its sell by date.. But hell I'm thinking it was way ahead of its time | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... all the ones we have invaded So you're saying that Iraq is going to take up arms and come invade the UK? You don't think the countries in between will notice? amongst other neighbouring countries nyes , the likeliness of an attack on the uk is higly likely , are you forgetting that we are on a hightened terror alert ? OK so we should expect a call from the French in the next few years: "excuse us but we wanted to let you know that Iraqi tanks have entered le tunnel"? Or perhaps you were thinking outside the box about how Iraq could use 3D printing to sneak their army across our borders and seize London by morning? who said a fukin thing about tanks or metal at all , do you not think that there trained in the art of close combat , ripping anothers head clean off with bare hands ? Just out of interest, how would the Iraqi army get here? Are you suggesting that they all get on an easyjet flight or a cruise ship and then storm London without firing a shot? It does sound like that's what you think... lest end this right now , do you think an invasion on the uk is totally impossible ? I don't think anything is totally impossible, just on the list of things I'm going to worry about in the coming months, being invaded is rather low down the list is all Bless you for no accusing the Chinese though, it's usually them who get accused on here" I don't think anything is totally impossible thats the only part of your reply i needed,,,,,,,, thank you and good night next question plz | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... all the ones we have invaded So you're saying that Iraq is going to take up arms and come invade the UK? You don't think the countries in between will notice? amongst other neighbouring countries nyes , the likeliness of an attack on the uk is higly likely , are you forgetting that we are on a hightened terror alert ? OK so we should expect a call from the French in the next few years: "excuse us but we wanted to let you know that Iraqi tanks have entered le tunnel"? Or perhaps you were thinking outside the box about how Iraq could use 3D printing to sneak their army across our borders and seize London by morning? who said a fukin thing about tanks or metal at all , do you not think that there trained in the art of close combat , ripping anothers head clean off with bare hands ? Just out of interest, how would the Iraqi army get here? Are you suggesting that they all get on an easyjet flight or a cruise ship and then storm London without firing a shot? It does sound like that's what you think... lest end this right now , do you think an invasion on the uk is totally impossible ?" . Why why why why why why why why why. Those are big fucking questions in life!... WHY, would they,why would anyone?. What do they hope to get out of the UK?... Oil, water, money, coal....a sense of miserableness,a fondness for drizzle, a better understanding of the queuing system? | |||
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us Could you give your top 5 countries most likely to invade us please? I'm genuinely interested... all the ones we have invaded So you're saying that Iraq is going to take up arms and come invade the UK? You don't think the countries in between will notice? amongst other neighbouring countries nyes , the likeliness of an attack on the uk is higly likely , are you forgetting that we are on a hightened terror alert ? OK so we should expect a call from the French in the next few years: "excuse us but we wanted to let you know that Iraqi tanks have entered le tunnel"? Or perhaps you were thinking outside the box about how Iraq could use 3D printing to sneak their army across our borders and seize London by morning? who said a fukin thing about tanks or metal at all , do you not think that there trained in the art of close combat , ripping anothers head clean off with bare hands ? Just out of interest, how would the Iraqi army get here? Are you suggesting that they all get on an easyjet flight or a cruise ship and then storm London without firing a shot? It does sound like that's what you think... lest end this right now , do you think an invasion on the uk is totally impossible ? I don't think anything is totally impossible, just on the list of things I'm going to worry about in the coming months, being invaded is rather low down the list is all Bless you for no accusing the Chinese though, it's usually them who get accused on here I don't think anything is totally impossible thats the only part of your reply i needed,,,,,,,, thank you and good night next question plz " Yes I'm saying it's not totally impossible and you're saying you reckon it's going to happen. Those two statements are quite far apart. Personally I would have put Argentina in that top 5 list I asked for, where there's motive... | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now " Evidently you've never heard of the great leap forward, Stalins purges or the Holocaust. | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now Evidently you've never heard of the great leap forward, Stalins purges or the Holocaust. " we are not talking about stalin or the holocaust | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now Evidently you've never heard of the great leap forward, Stalins purges or the Holocaust. we are not talking about stalin or the holocaust " For your claim to be true then you've have to be able reference something Britain was responsible for that has a bigger death toll than those events... | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now Evidently you've never heard of the great leap forward, Stalins purges or the Holocaust. we are not talking about stalin or the holocaust For your claim to be true then you've have to be able reference something Britain was responsible for that has a bigger death toll than those events... " i think if you count the many countries that brittain has invaded and plundered and murdered over the yrs it will be more than the holocaust ,and war makes ppl rich thats why the tory bastards couldnt wait to bomb syria | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now Evidently you've never heard of the great leap forward, Stalins purges or the Holocaust. we are not talking about stalin or the holocaust For your claim to be true then you've have to be able reference something Britain was responsible for that has a bigger death toll than those events... i think if you count the many countries that brittain has invaded and plundered and murdered over the yrs it will be more than the holocaust ,and war makes ppl rich thats why the tory bastards couldnt wait to bomb syria " Clearly you form your opinions after thorough research and investigation. You're wrong though. | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now Evidently you've never heard of the great leap forward, Stalins purges or the Holocaust. we are not talking about stalin or the holocaust For your claim to be true then you've have to be able reference something Britain was responsible for that has a bigger death toll than those events... i think if you count the many countries that brittain has invaded and plundered and murdered over the yrs it will be more than the holocaust ,and war makes ppl rich thats why the tory bastards couldnt wait to bomb syria Clearly you form your opinions after thorough research and investigation. You're wrong though. " really? The commonwealth is so called because brittain plundered all the countries in it murdering anyone who stood in their way also india and eirland to name a few ,am i right or wrong ? | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now Evidently you've never heard of the great leap forward, Stalins purges or the Holocaust. we are not talking about stalin or the holocaust For your claim to be true then you've have to be able reference something Britain was responsible for that has a bigger death toll than those events... i think if you count the many countries that brittain has invaded and plundered and murdered over the yrs it will be more than the holocaust ,and war makes ppl rich thats why the tory bastards couldnt wait to bomb syria Clearly you form your opinions after thorough research and investigation. You're wrong though. really? The commonwealth is so called because brittain plundered all the countries in it murdering anyone who stood in their way also india and eirland to name a few ,am i right or wrong ?" your correct | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now Evidently you've never heard of the great leap forward, Stalins purges or the Holocaust. we are not talking about stalin or the holocaust For your claim to be true then you've have to be able reference something Britain was responsible for that has a bigger death toll than those events... i think if you count the many countries that brittain has invaded and plundered and murdered over the yrs it will be more than the holocaust ,and war makes ppl rich thats why the tory bastards couldnt wait to bomb syria Clearly you form your opinions after thorough research and investigation. You're wrong though. really? The commonwealth is so called because brittain plundered all the countries in it murdering anyone who stood in their way also india and eirland to name a few ,am i right or wrong ?" You're wrong if you think the death toll from that is anything like the countries I mentioned. | |||
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"They have been accused of war crimes, by bombing hospitals in two towns in syria, latest in series of attacks on medical facilities, do you think they did it on purpose? " yes, no, maybe | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now Evidently you've never heard of the great leap forward, Stalins purges or the Holocaust. we are not talking about stalin or the holocaust For your claim to be true then you've have to be able reference something Britain was responsible for that has a bigger death toll than those events... i think if you count the many countries that brittain has invaded and plundered and murdered over the yrs it will be more than the holocaust ,and war makes ppl rich thats why the tory bastards couldnt wait to bomb syria Clearly you form your opinions after thorough research and investigation. You're wrong though. really? The commonwealth is so called because brittain plundered all the countries in it murdering anyone who stood in their way also india and eirland to name a few ,am i right or wrong ? You're wrong if you think the death toll from that is anything like the countries I mentioned." check it out youl see it was many more millions | |||
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"You two (four!) must work for MI6" nah fck that they are all double agents lol and all tory public school so ive no chance | |||
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"no we just know about history half of you have never likely heard of carlisle ? im sure the edingburgh couple have " You guys can share your bunker together | |||
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"You two (four!) must work for MI6 nah fck that they are all double agents lol and all tory public school so ive no chance "me neither lol | |||
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"no we just know about history half of you have never likely heard of carlisle ? im sure the edingburgh couple have You guys can share your bunker together" i wont be in a bunker lol al be armed and dangerous | |||
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"no we just know about history half of you have never likely heard of carlisle ? im sure the edingburgh couple have You guys can share your bunker together i wont be in a bunker lol al be armed and dangerous "he alpha male?
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"we are headed towards a massive war i recon , whos willing to take up arms to defend our country ? . Nobody, those days ended after ww2, why do you think they keep chavs in baby mode?. I don't mean to be horrible, I love the armed services, there's some great people in it.... But you have to look at the big picture so everyones just gonna lay back and think of england ?. I don't think many people wanna die defending a nationalistic concept anymore!.... And I really don't think any state is serious about invading the uk.... I might be wrong, what do you think they want to invade us for theres a multitude of reasons why the uk would be the first country invaded , we stand between the us and russia , we are likely the only other country to even back the us " Only if you look from left to right on a map...if you look right to left you get a different answer | |||
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"Russia just quietly gets on with building solid aircraft and then showing them to the world when they least expect it. Like they did after Rolls Royce sold their jet engines to them
I wasn't aware money changed hands."Didn't the British government give them 6 engines with the promise that the Russians would buy more and then they just reverse engineered them and cancelled the order. Sneeky buggers! | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now " Putin doesn't need any help on that score to make Russia look bad. Murder of Boris Nemtsov main opposition leader in central Moscow. Great example | |||
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"Dont beleive everything you read in papers or see on tv its all propoganda to make russia look bad ,and just remember brittain has killed more ppl and destroyed more countries than any other nation ever and still doing it now Putin doesn't need any help on that score to make Russia look bad. Murder of Boris Nemtsov main opposition leader in central Moscow. Great example "Yes their politics is messy but their women are hotter, on average | |||
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