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"lettuce. Actually does help So Wicked...... " I am...i am.... But it does help...slept like a baby after me BLT | |||
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"Will look into that too, I have heard of it beforew but didnt realise it can be for kids too" yes can be for children i even use it them i was there looking at her on the horse jumping... you look into that just before bed ... we have been useing this for years now Good luck and dont cost loads boots have it xx | |||
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"Used Bach rescue remedy for my dogs while travelling too! " yes i give it to horses me and girl and when in need of help x its good . | |||
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"My nearly 10 year old is the same.. Although sometimes he can be sound asleep by 9pm.. sometimes come 11 he is still awake.. I am slowly pulling his bedtime back again.. and getting him I have found that not allowing him tv, or xbox for a good hour before bed helps.. so if its bath, story, talk and things like drawing this seems to help. Katie. x" in general he is never asleep by 9. I am pleased if it is 10. But most nights if i go up at half ten he is still awake. After we had the meds he was asleep on average at half 9 which was lovely. With all the problems with his feelings towards his dad it makes the sleep situation even harder i think. My mind starts when i go to bed sometimes so know how he feels. | |||
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"Now he knows what his willy is for, won't be long before he is cracking one off to get to sleep. Thing is, being a thrusting young buck, he'll wake up every half hour raring to go again. Meanwhile, try whisky. Or Phenobarbital. " Or a good waxing ahem ! | |||
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"Wolf, thanks I guess?? Be nice, we have in the past stopped all e numbers/additives after tea but still didnt work. Off to see if I can get some rescue remedy today" i was thinking maybe some music too .... you know them relaxing ones of sea, and stuff thay send me to sleep ,, have them on around the bed room just dont say or make a big deal about it say you like it yourself x xx | |||
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"My nearly 10 year old is the same.. Although sometimes he can be sound asleep by 9pm.. sometimes come 11 he is still awake.. I am slowly pulling his bedtime back again.. and getting him I have found that not allowing him tv, or xbox for a good hour before bed helps.. so if its bath, story, talk and things like drawing this seems to help. Katie. x in general he is never asleep by 9. I am pleased if it is 10. But most nights if i go up at half ten he is still awake. After we had the meds he was asleep on average at half 9 which was lovely. With all the problems with his feelings towards his dad it makes the sleep situation even harder i think. My mind starts when i go to bed sometimes so know how he feels." Sounds to me like he is stressing and worrying about the relationship you and his dad have, he is caught in the middle, with you worrying and trying to 'control' him whereas his dad is letting him have whatever he wants, it creates illogical boundaries for him. Best thing is to chat with your son about whats going on, without asking questions and then you need to tell his dad whats going on and what it is doing to his son | |||
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"My nearly 10 year old is the same.. Although sometimes he can be sound asleep by 9pm.. sometimes come 11 he is still awake.. I am slowly pulling his bedtime back again.. and getting him I have found that not allowing him tv, or xbox for a good hour before bed helps.. so if its bath, story, talk and things like drawing this seems to help. Katie. x in general he is never asleep by 9. I am pleased if it is 10. But most nights if i go up at half ten he is still awake. After we had the meds he was asleep on average at half 9 which was lovely. With all the problems with his feelings towards his dad it makes the sleep situation even harder i think. My mind starts when i go to bed sometimes so know how he feels. Sounds to me like he is stressing and worrying about the relationship you and his dad have, he is caught in the middle, with you worrying and trying to 'control' him whereas his dad is letting him have whatever he wants, it creates illogical boundaries for him. Best thing is to chat with your son about whats going on, without asking questions and then you need to tell his dad whats going on and what it is doing to his son" your right in many ways. His dad puts him to bed at 7 with a dvd as their isnt much communication between him and his son now and we have been down the councilling route as it has caused him problems since his dad left when he was almost 5. He is very open to me about everything so never have any probs getting him to open up with me about his dad. When he saw the councillor she was amazed at the work we had done(me and my parents)to keep him emotionally healthy and she was pleased how well he vocalised how he felt. At home we sit cuddled up on the sofa watching a programme but tv goes off when he goes to bed. His dad says there is no point having him in the longer of an eve(weekend) when our son wont really open up and our lad would rather watch a dvd than sit with his dad. Also if dads girlfriend is watching an unsuitable programme then he is happy our son isnt in the room. It does make it hard as is getting mixed messages but dad wont give his full support and stick with it. He said yesterday when discussing it via text(saves me getting sworn at) that he hadnt realised this is for the future and thouht it was short term. Hope the background helps. | |||
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"My nearly 10 year old is the same.. Although sometimes he can be sound asleep by 9pm.. sometimes come 11 he is still awake.. I am slowly pulling his bedtime back again.. and getting him I have found that not allowing him tv, or xbox for a good hour before bed helps.. so if its bath, story, talk and things like drawing this seems to help. Katie. x in general he is never asleep by 9. I am pleased if it is 10. But most nights if i go up at half ten he is still awake. After we had the meds he was asleep on average at half 9 which was lovely. With all the problems with his feelings towards his dad it makes the sleep situation even harder i think. My mind starts when i go to bed sometimes so know how he feels. Sounds to me like he is stressing and worrying about the relationship you and his dad have, he is caught in the middle, with you worrying and trying to 'control' him whereas his dad is letting him have whatever he wants, it creates illogical boundaries for him. Best thing is to chat with your son about whats going on, without asking questions and then you need to tell his dad whats going on and what it is doing to his son your right in many ways. His dad puts him to bed at 7 with a dvd as their isnt much communication between him and his son now and we have been down the councilling route as it has caused him problems since his dad left when he was almost 5. He is very open to me about everything so never have any probs getting him to open up with me about his dad. When he saw the councillor she was amazed at the work we had done(me and my parents)to keep him emotionally healthy and she was pleased how well he vocalised how he felt. At home we sit cuddled up on the sofa watching a programme but tv goes off when he goes to bed. His dad says there is no point having him in the longer of an eve(weekend) when our son wont really open up and our lad would rather watch a dvd than sit with his dad. Also if dads girlfriend is watching an unsuitable programme then he is happy our son isnt in the room. It does make it hard as is getting mixed messages but dad wont give his full support and stick with it. He said yesterday when discussing it via text(saves me getting sworn at) that he hadnt realised this is for the future and thouht it was short term. Hope the background helps." perhaps he doesnt want to see the future or think about long term, silly because he needs to do that, boundaries by you need to be adhered to by his dad too but i am glad he talks to you, sounds like you have your head screwed on but dad doesnt. He must learn to talk to his son, if he doesnt really want him there, he needs to say and vice versa, if your son doesnt want to, he shouldnt go, but i bet he does, hitting a brickwall though. And his father should put him first, if there is a programme on unsuitable for him, his girlfriend should go without, son comes first when he is there | |||
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"My nearly 10 year old is the same.. Although sometimes he can be sound asleep by 9pm.. sometimes come 11 he is still awake.. I am slowly pulling his bedtime back again.. and getting him I have found that not allowing him tv, or xbox for a good hour before bed helps.. so if its bath, story, talk and things like drawing this seems to help. Katie. x in general he is never asleep by 9. I am pleased if it is 10. But most nights if i go up at half ten he is still awake. After we had the meds he was asleep on average at half 9 which was lovely. With all the problems with his feelings towards his dad it makes the sleep situation even harder i think. My mind starts when i go to bed sometimes so know how he feels. Sounds to me like he is stressing and worrying about the relationship you and his dad have, he is caught in the middle, with you worrying and trying to 'control' him whereas his dad is letting him have whatever he wants, it creates illogical boundaries for him. Best thing is to chat with your son about whats going on, without asking questions and then you need to tell his dad whats going on and what it is doing to his son your right in many ways. His dad puts him to bed at 7 with a dvd as their isnt much communication between him and his son now and we have been down the councilling route as it has caused him problems since his dad left when he was almost 5. He is very open to me about everything so never have any probs getting him to open up with me about his dad. When he saw the councillor she was amazed at the work we had done(me and my parents)to keep him emotionally healthy and she was pleased how well he vocalised how he felt. At home we sit cuddled up on the sofa watching a programme but tv goes off when he goes to bed. His dad says there is no point having him in the longer of an eve(weekend) when our son wont really open up and our lad would rather watch a dvd than sit with his dad. Also if dads girlfriend is watching an unsuitable programme then he is happy our son isnt in the room. It does make it hard as is getting mixed messages but dad wont give his full support and stick with it. He said yesterday when discussing it via text(saves me getting sworn at) that he hadnt realised this is for the future and thouht it was short term. Hope the background helps. perhaps he doesnt want to see the future or think about long term, silly because he needs to do that, boundaries by you need to be adhered to by his dad too but i am glad he talks to you, sounds like you have your head screwed on but dad doesnt. He must learn to talk to his son, if he doesnt really want him there, he needs to say and vice versa, if your son doesnt want to, he shouldnt go, but i bet he does, hitting a brickwall though. And his father should put him first, if there is a programme on unsuitable for him, his girlfriend should go without, son comes first when he is there" Pretty much everything you say is right. I dont watch my casualty until son goes to be as its unsuitable. But its his girlfriends house and the ex has never been known for his backbone hence why I am so assertive. The ex and his girlfriend have a 1 year old together and he seems to be the prority for them both now. Ex has shown that to his son too a few times which isnt good. The ex isnt good with talking about things hence why we got divorced! He does know he only has himself to blame really for the lack in relationship. He admitted after trying to dicsuss sex and willies with his son recent that he seems more of an uncle to our son now rather than dad | |||
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"Just my tuppenceworth... He's a kid, he'll sleep when he's tired. What time he goes to sleep isnt necesarrily that important. You're looking at the clock & it's stressing you out, but it won't bother him. Some kids need more sleep than others, just like adults. I would strongly council against giving a kid meds for sleeping. Plus, in general, the more you try to get a kid to go to sleep, the less likely they are to do it. If anything, I would suggest reading. I've always told my son that he can stay awake as late as he likes if he's reading. This has the double benefit of making tired & sleepy, plus he gets into enjoying books which improves his comprehension, vocab and understanding of the world around him. " In answer. The sleep he needs is important and he is the one that is bothered by it more than anyone. He wakes up tired and cant get out of bed, that means he isnt getting enough sleep. The docs agreed after 3 years of problems that giving him meds was a good idea. We have also tried for well over 6 months to just ignore it and it didnt make any difference, so in my experience ignoring it didnt do any difference. We have tried reading as he does say it makes him sleepy sometimes. But other times(last week in particular) he was still reading happily at 11pm after being in bed since 8. Wide awake! He has recently gotten bog time into reading and cant return books fast enough and get more books so his vocab is becoming streets ahead and loves his books. Told him last night he could read when he got to bed and wass till reading at 10.30 when I went to bed. | |||
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"I had problems similar with my daughter not sleeping she was about 10 at the time. Tried everything. In the end I looked into calming colours for her bedroom. Got a memory foam mattress topper for her bed and started an night time routine which consisted of shower, I gave her a lavendar neck and shoulder massage and chatted about her day. A warm milk then we both went up to her room with a book each. She would lay in her bed and I would sit beside the bed and read. No talking just reading together. Took a few weeks but after a while within a couple of lines of reading she was dozing off. We still do this but not every night now. I start waking her up 45 minutes earlier in the morning as she takes a while to function it makes for an easier morning. " Think I may try similar. Dont relish the thought of 3 hours sat in the kids bedroom of an eve but if it makes a difference and is reccomednded then will try it. Going for the rescue remedy tonight and lavender oil too | |||
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""We have tried reading as he does say it makes him sleepy sometimes. But other times(last week in particular) he was still reading happily at 11pm after being in bed since 8. Wide awake!" For me, that's fine - let him read. His body will naturally shut down when it needs to, as will his brain. I know it's tough (and i've probably got a different approach/outlook) but if he's reading for 3+ hours in bed of a night, i'd be delighted! If more kids did that the world would be a better place. Plus, if he's not running screaming round the house demoilishing the joint etc all night, then reading for ages isnt a bad alternative. Importantly, even though he's not sleeping at that time, when he's reading he'll be quiet, relaxed etc & that is a good way to give your body a rest as well. " In the past we have tried reading as I said and sometime it does make him sleepy but others he says it makes no difference. It doesnt seem to be clear cut that is works. I am aware if he is reading he is relaxed and chilling and am very pleased with that but the one thing he isnt, is alseep, which is what i want and so does he. His body will naturally shut down eventually, yes your right but his body is doing it, but a few hours every night later than it needs to be for him. It sounds like I have an answer for everything and I apologise but we have tried so many ways and have tried these more than once to see what works for him. It is bothering him now hence why an appointment at the docs. I tend to let him go to bed later on a weekend eve but after reading some info on sleepn probs is says that allowing them to stay up later on weekend eves and lay in that it doesnt help so am now going back to bed at 9 pm on weekends(normally 8 school days) and no he wont be happy but he does understand the reasons why we try these things. | |||
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