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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Anyone had dealings with council re; notice to quit ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As in ? You've received one from your landlord or from the council ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah i have.

They're usually pretty good about not wanting to go to court and get their money instead, so if you're only behind on rent then it's inlikely you'll get thrown out.

Just go talk to them, they'll let you set up DD or a way of paying off debts.

If it's ASB or soething else then you're probably not fucked either, but depends on how much the other person is pushing for you to get chucked out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'm not behind on rent, I'm a good neighbour, its the succession shite

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

They say only one succession is allowed , I've been here over 15 years it was my dads , then mum was added , mum passed away , they are saying the succession has been used when mum passed and it was handed to dad , now he is gone unfortunately

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Also get help from citizens advice bureau.

I feel for your situation, and I hope that you can get what you need!

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"They say only one succession is allowed , I've been here over 15 years it was my dads , then mum was added , mum passed away , they are saying the succession has been used when mum passed and it was handed to dad , now he is gone unfortunately "

Get help, from the CAB and most legal firms give half an hour free advice.

Go tot one, get to know some facts, then go to another and another until you've built up the whole picture

Hope it all works out for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have just gone thru a similar thing , most councils allow 2 successions in a certain time frame

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

have you been living there and can prove it for the past 12 months ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They say only one succession is allowed , I've been here over 15 years it was my dads , then mum was added , mum passed away , they are saying the succession has been used when mum passed and it was handed to dad , now he is gone unfortunately "

If that's what your tenancy says then there probably isn't much you can do about it.

As well as CAB, go see Shelter (or email them for advice) coz they're specialists in housing rights. And at least if you don't have the right to succession you probably won't end up homeless with their help.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"They say only one succession is allowed , I've been here over 15 years it was my dads , then mum was added , mum passed away , they are saying the succession has been used when mum passed and it was handed to dad , now he is gone unfortunately "

Mrs ddc says they're right, she knows a little of this area. Council houses can't be handed down the generations as if they are inheritances, it will be needed for a family on the waiting list. They should offer you whatever your circumstances entitle you to, but that is all, unfortunately.

Mr ddc

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

They are right you can only succeed once and you are considered a lodger in occupation now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

actually if you google the shelter website you can see some advice right now on succession of tenancy already, there's different rules for before and after April 2012.

i would leave a link to the page but will get a ban for spamming the forums.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"i have just gone thru a similar thing , most councils allow 2 successions in a certain time frame "

No, it changed last year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if mum was added as joint tenant that may not actually be classed as succession tbf as it aint , if you can prove that you have lived there for the 15 yrs then you should most likely entitled to succeed the tenancy, thing is with councils etc you have to get them told yr not willing to be a psuh over or else they will walk all over you

if its a 3 bedder get a couple of mates to say theyre living with you even if they aint

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

If you are at risk of homelessness you can do a number of things

A. Complete a housing application and B complete a homeless application.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"if mum was added as joint tenant that may not actually be classed as succession tbf as it aint , if you can prove that you have lived there for the 15 yrs then you should most likely entitled to succeed the tenancy, thing is with councils etc you have to get them told yr not willing to be a psuh over or else they will walk all over you

if its a 3 bedder get a couple of mates to say theyre living with you even if they aint "

Er that's called housing fraud

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Under new laws you can only succeed a tenancy ONCE due to the lack of social housing available

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if mum was added as joint tenant that may not actually be classed as succession tbf as it aint , if you can prove that you have lived there for the 15 yrs then you should most likely entitled to succeed the tenancy, thing is with councils etc you have to get them told yr not willing to be a psuh over or else they will walk all over you

if its a 3 bedder get a couple of mates to say theyre living with you even if they aint

Er that's called housing fraud "

er one of his parents may have died there and maybe he aint that ready to let go

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"if mum was added as joint tenant that may not actually be classed as succession tbf as it aint , if you can prove that you have lived there for the 15 yrs then you should most likely entitled to succeed the tenancy, thing is with councils etc you have to get them told yr not willing to be a psuh over or else they will walk all over you

if its a 3 bedder get a couple of mates to say theyre living with you even if they aint

Er that's called housing fraud

er one of his parents may have died there and maybe he aint that ready to let go

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Still housing fraud which I wouldn't suggest the OP thinks of doing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They say only one succession is allowed , I've been here over 15 years it was my dads , then mum was added , mum passed away , they are saying the succession has been used when mum passed and it was handed to dad , now he is gone unfortunately "

when you say mum was added, do you mean they became joint tenants ?

if so that likely cannot be calssed as succession its joint tenant , speak to cab like said by others , but do not let them tell you , you tell them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if mum was added as joint tenant that may not actually be classed as succession tbf as it aint , if you can prove that you have lived there for the 15 yrs then you should most likely entitled to succeed the tenancy, thing is with councils etc you have to get them told yr not willing to be a psuh over or else they will walk all over you

if its a 3 bedder get a couple of mates to say theyre living with you even if they aint

Er that's called housing fraud

er one of his parents may have died there and maybe he aint that ready to let go

Still housing fraud which I wouldn't suggest the OP thinks of doing "

its not yr mam n dads old home and you aint lived there and built up so many memories

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what is for me wot be for others , im only saying what id do , the op has asked us all for advice not just the do gooders

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"its not yr mam n dads old home and you aint lived there and built up so many memories "

You'd be in the queue complaining if a family with 4 children couldn't get a council house.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"Under new laws you can only succeed a tenancy ONCE due to the lack of social housing available "

Just try to think of the young, homeless family currently living in a bedsit, desperately waiting for a house to come available. It is very unlikely the council will make the op homeless, but that house could make a real difference to them.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"what is for me wot be for others , im only saying what id do , the op has asked us all for advice not just the do gooders "

Yeah, but once you read this, I suggest you probably wouldn't...

http://www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2013/oct/15/social-housing-fraud-prevention-act-guide

Sometimes us do-gooders do good...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ok

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

OP I would firstly complete a housing application as I'm not sure if you are a single person in a 3 bed but if you are you should under the LA's allocation scheme be eligible for under occupancy points as you have a large property. If you have a priority need such as medical health issues, dependants etc you may possibly be accepted as homeless and provided with alternative accommodation. You may wish to speak to your local housing or housing options for further advice or contact shelter who will be able to give you further advice.

Just remember you are able to remain in your property even after the Section 21 has expired and the LA will have to go to court to gets what's called a warrant of eviction, this will then be sent to the Baliffs who will give a date of eviction. You can request a suspension of the possession order and the judge will look at the facts.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford


"Under new laws you can only succeed a tenancy ONCE due to the lack of social housing available

Just try to think of the young, homeless family currently living in a bedsit, desperately waiting for a house to come available. It is very unlikely the council will make the op homeless, but that house could make a real difference to them."

whatever you do dont leave voluntary

first off put your name down for a single place.

show that your willing to downsize for a family to take over the place this gives other options do seek advice as you will need it

you may have to give other areas up to 3 to choose from so choose wisely check your area first before you bid on a property as first bid counts refuse and your dropped back to 2 years on the waiting list, ive been there

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"OP I would firstly complete a housing application as I'm not sure if you are a single person in a 3 bed but if you are you should under the LA's allocation scheme be eligible for under occupancy points as you have a large property. If you have a priority need such as medical health issues, dependants etc you may possibly be accepted as homeless and provided with alternative accommodation. You may wish to speak to your local housing or housing options for further advice or contact shelter who will be able to give you further advice.

Just remember you are able to remain in your property even after the Section 21 has expired and the LA will have to go to court to gets what's called a warrant of eviction, this will then be sent to the Baliffs who will give a date of eviction. You can request a suspension of the possession order and the judge will look at the facts. "

If he agrees with the LA he will grant them possession of the property, if he believes you have a case he will suspend the warrant and possibly ask to return in 28 days after everyone has completed the checks that have been requested.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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its not yr mam n dads old home and you aint lived there and built up so many memories "

I get what you are saying - but it has changed and only one succession per tenancy is permitted. They will usually look to rehouse you in an appropriate sized property and normally you have a period of time to leave, but once it gets to the end of that. They will serve a NTQ. There's just such a shortage of housing unfortunately and it's only going to get worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

op did they go joint tenant before one of them passed away ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im not saying there aint a shortage of housing, the op has asked for advice as he sounds like he dont want to have to leave the house so im telling him what my course of action would be

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks "

i agree. try the shelter site. they don't just deal with homeless people, they deal with stopping people from becoming homeless. email them if you can't find the help you need on the site, they'll be happy to help you.

although the council say they can't offer you a succession i don't see why they can't just offer you a new tenancy. it's their house and down to their discretion who rents it.

and i wouldn't worry too much about another family needing it, there'll be thousands of other families needing it (including yours) because that's how bad the housing situation is - and has been for decades.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A friend has just gone through this despite living there all her life,they rehoused her though in a smaller property, it took some time though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks "

Do not back down and don't let them tell you this and that and the other , if that don't work don't do what I'd do and become aggressive and maybe even violent lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks

Do not back down and don't let them tell you this and that and the other , if that don't work don't do what I'd do and become aggressive and maybe even violent lol "

Good advice, the OP will have guaranteed residence at one of the HMPs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks

Do not back down and don't let them tell you this and that and the other , if that don't work don't do what I'd do and become aggressive and maybe even violent lol

Good advice, the OP will have guaranteed residence at one of the HMPs. "

I told him not to

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks "

Put in a homeless application

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks

Do not back down and don't let them tell you this and that and the other , if that don't work don't do what I'd do and become aggressive and maybe even violent lol "

Do you crave the reaction you get because you seem to love the attention

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks

Do not back down and don't let them tell you this and that and the other , if that don't work don't do what I'd do and become aggressive and maybe even violent lol

Do you crave the reaction you get because you seem to love the attention "

The only thing I'm craving right now is my cock being sucked

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks "

You have no legal right to the property as the succession has been used but you didn't act in an intentionally way so you have a dependant I would put a homeless application in

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks

Do not back down and don't let them tell you this and that and the other , if that don't work don't do what I'd do and become aggressive and maybe even violent lol

Do you crave the reaction you get because you seem to love the attention

The only thing I'm craving right now is my cock being sucked "

Hey ho good luck in your quest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They say only one succession is allowed , I've been here over 15 years it was my dads , then mum was added , mum passed away , they are saying the succession has been used when mum passed and it was handed to dad , now he is gone unfortunately "

That's exactly right, succession is only allowed once, you need to find somewhere else to live. Talk to the council about housing options

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its me , my Mrs and my daughter, me and my wife no longer sleep together because of this shit , its a 3 bedroom, so we use all bedrooms, so what is the point of moving us from a 3 bed to a 3 bed , it all bollocks

Do not back down and don't let them tell you this and that and the other , if that don't work don't do what I'd do and become aggressive and maybe even violent lol

Do you crave the reaction you get because you seem to love the attention

The only thing I'm craving right now is my cock being sucked

Hey ho good luck in your quest "

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

the council do have the right to allocate the house to us

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"the council do have the right to allocate the house to us "

Best get some advice on that one good luck in your housing situation

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the council do have the right to allocate the house to us "

No they don't just because you and your wife have split, doesn't entitle you to a 3 bed. The thing is that if they give you a tenancy and you and your wife make things up, you've then an extra bedroom you don't need and maybe that's what the council are looking at, you and your wife have to prove that you are no longer together and by continuing to live in the same house, you are not doing that. So if you move out, she is only a 2 bed need, if she moves out, you are only a 1 bed need

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im not saying there aint a shortage of housing, the op has asked for advice as he sounds like he dont want to have to leave the house so im telling him what my course of action would be "

I got that - however if there were lots more houses etc than required - the councils wouldn't be so stringent. But there aren't - plus they are supposed to be selling their crown jewel properties.

OP- they may help you find a private rental - like others said , get some advice. And keep talking to the council. They may think that if you and your wife have split - one parent can live with your daughter in a 2 bed and the other parent in a 1 bed. Thus releasing the 3 bed for another family who maybe 5 people as it could be a 3 bed 5 person property. It's all about best use of a limited resource - and I know houses have emotional attachments but it's the reality.

Sarah

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