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"I was reading a book today by an anthropologist who studies English culture (he is English himself). He noted that English women follow something he called the "Counter-Compliment Rule." What this means is that one thing that English women do when they are greeting one another is: Woman A will compliment Woman B, Woman B will reject the compliment, and counter-compliment Woman A, and then Woman A will do the same, and so on. So: "'You're hair looks lovely Suzy.' 'What, this haircut? I think it looked better before. But your hair is looking very full and shiny!' 'Full? My hair always looks so thin...etc.' I have noticed that English women do in fact follow this pattern much more often than American women. In my experience, American women are much more likely to accept a compliment, and offer one back without the rejection. Anyway, men, have you found that English women to in fact reject the compliments you pay them? And women, do you think you follow this rule-pattern, and if so, why? And I mean this for everyday life more than on fab where I know we all look somewhat skeptically on compliments... -Courtney" good question as always. I do think a lot of people (not necessarily women) do follow this rule when given a compliment. I was the same and would brush of compliments now I say thankyou and lap!them up | |||
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"If I tell a woman she has great tits I either get: . (A) a smack in the mouth . (B) " why thank you kind sir...and your cock is magnificent" Followed by an instant shag!" i tend to find that the counter compliment stops at the smack in the mouth | |||
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"Similar to this really i cant remember the name of the book. But i use to train interview skills. Some research was done in an interviewees ability to talk positively about themselves.. (whole point of interviews right?!) They spoke to bosses in different types of companys across the world. I think around 20 from memory. Results were as follows. British - shit. Americans almost too good - the netherlands cracked it. I will have to dig it out xx It was called something like the modesty factor xx" Americans - almost too good?! Never. We're perfect. -Courtney | |||
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"So do you guys think it is true humility or faux humility? I have seen both implied and explicitly stated in the responses so far. -Courtney" I think it depends on the person. It's anywhere from lack of self esteem to fishing for more compliments. I'm not sure I see it as humility though. I'll have to think about it. | |||
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"I used to be bad at accepting compliments. Then I realised how rude it is to reject them. I try to accept them gracefully, without making a big deal out of them now, even if I don't believe them. I'll usually just say thank you and move on." Interestingly i also taught confidence and golden rule is to smile and say thabkyou. Your subconcious brain doesnt differentiate between thoughts or opinions etc. It takes everything as an instruction. Accepting compliments with a thankyou and a smile your brain makes you feel happier etc. Reject the compliment and you will feel the insult you just gave yourself xx | |||
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"Similar to this really i cant remember the name of the book. But i use to train interview skills. Some research was done in an interviewees ability to talk positively about themselves.. (whole point of interviews right?!) They spoke to bosses in different types of companys across the world. I think around 20 from memory. Results were as follows. British - shit. Americans almost too good - the netherlands cracked it. I will have to dig it out xx It was called something like the modesty factor xx Americans - almost too good?! Never. We're perfect. -Courtney" Well i say that cause it said they came across as arrogant but i took that as bs bias lol. Can you be too good at talking positively about yourself? To me no, its the listener who is probably not used to it....they were probably a british relation | |||
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"So do you guys think it is true humility or faux humility? I have seen both implied and explicitly stated in the responses so far. -Courtney" I think it totally depends on the person receiving the compliment. Some will genuinely not see that they are worthy of a compliment while others refuse them as it's the British socially accepted response. Unfortunately thinking well of yourself is often interpreted as big-headed. | |||
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"I used to be bad at accepting compliments. Then I realised how rude it is to reject them. I try to accept them gracefully, without making a big deal out of them now, even if I don't believe them. I'll usually just say thank you and move on. Interestingly i also taught confidence and golden rule is to smile and say thabkyou. Your subconcious brain doesnt differentiate between thoughts or opinions etc. It takes everything as an instruction. Accepting compliments with a thankyou and a smile your brain makes you feel happier etc. Reject the compliment and you will feel the insult you just gave yourself xx" I struggle with the outrageous ones I get on here sometimes. My response to statements from strangers that I'm the hottest woman on the planet (or similar) will always be don't be daft or you need to go to Specsavers. Other than that, I'm a lot better than I used to be and I'll check myself if I catch myself playing down compliments. I'm also very good at talking about myself positively at interviews. The only aspect of myself I don't have confidence in is my physical appearance and, fortunately, that doesn't come up at interviews. | |||
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"So do you guys think it is true humility or faux humility? I have seen both implied and explicitly stated in the responses so far. -Courtney I think it totally depends on the person receiving the compliment. Some will genuinely not see that they are worthy of a compliment while others refuse them as it's the British socially accepted response. Unfortunately thinking well of yourself is often interpreted as big-headed." | |||
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"I used to be bad at accepting compliments. Then I realised how rude it is to reject them. I try to accept them gracefully, without making a big deal out of them now, even if I don't believe them. I'll usually just say thank you and move on. Interestingly i also taught confidence and golden rule is to smile and say thabkyou. Your subconcious brain doesnt differentiate between thoughts or opinions etc. It takes everything as an instruction. Accepting compliments with a thankyou and a smile your brain makes you feel happier etc. Reject the compliment and you will feel the insult you just gave yourself xx I struggle with the outrageous ones I get on here sometimes. My response to statements from strangers that I'm the hottest woman on the planet (or similar) will always be don't be daft or you need to go to Specsavers. Other than that, I'm a lot better than I used to be and I'll check myself if I catch myself playing down compliments. I'm also very good at talking about myself positively at interviews. The only aspect of myself I don't have confidence in is my physical appearance and, fortunately, that doesn't come up at interviews." Sounds to me like a sensible attitude. It does make me wonder if the same psychology applies to words on a screen. I dont take compliments on here seriously a large dose of saxo usually does it haha. But i say thanks the same as i preach | |||
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"I might not believe a compliment but I always say thank you. To say anything else is churlish." I love the word 'churlish' | |||
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"I used to be bad at accepting compliments. Then I realised how rude it is to reject them. I try to accept them gracefully, without making a big deal out of them now, even if I don't believe them. I'll usually just say thank you and move on. Interestingly i also taught confidence and golden rule is to smile and say thabkyou. Your subconcious brain doesnt differentiate between thoughts or opinions etc. It takes everything as an instruction. Accepting compliments with a thankyou and a smile your brain makes you feel happier etc. Reject the compliment and you will feel the insult you just gave yourself xx I struggle with the outrageous ones I get on here sometimes. My response to statements from strangers that I'm the hottest woman on the planet (or similar) will always be don't be daft or you need to go to Specsavers. Other than that, I'm a lot better than I used to be and I'll check myself if I catch myself playing down compliments. I'm also very good at talking about myself positively at interviews. The only aspect of myself I don't have confidence in is my physical appearance and, fortunately, that doesn't come up at interviews." I've used the "Think you need to go to specsavers" reply to a compliment on here and in the real world | |||
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"I'm getting lots of compliments for my doodles at work...now some are asking me to do stuff for them(paid work),I'm always downing myself to be honest(particularly if it means me trying to add value to something I've done, artwise/photography wise). I rarely respond well to physical compliments about myself..though it doesnt hold me back from being confident weirdly enough." Apparently the Counter-Compliment rule is specific to women. Men tend to bond by insulting one-another, which seems pretty cross-cultural so I didn't bother asking about it! -Courtney | |||
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"It's self deprecating but less prevalent these days than it used to be. My compliments I've given to ladies on here have sometimes been hooted down with laughter so I don't bother giving them any more. 'Pinch of salt' and all.... " I think its partly because we receive them based on a static picture we took in good lighting. I dont think i really look like that so on here i find them hard to believe unless ive met the person and they have seen me naked | |||
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"I've found that women tend to take the compliments I give them very well...and I do love to give out the compliments I tend to have a non-threatening, don't-worry-I-don't-necessarily-want-to-get-in-your-knickers-I-really-am-just-paying-you-a-compliment way about me. I do it with my own unique brand of boyish charm and I always come across as sincere (which I always am of course). Women have always seemed to respond well to my compliments. I think some men can come across as a bit sleazy or a bit pervy when paying a compliment. That definitely puts most women off." I see what you mean. But interestingly, the Counter-Compliment rule that the anthropologist was talking about was mostly, but not exclusively, in a woman/woman interaction. | |||
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"I've found that women tend to take the compliments I give them very well...and I do love to give out the compliments I tend to have a non-threatening, don't-worry-I-don't-necessarily-want-to-get-in-your-knickers-I-really-am-just-paying-you-a-compliment way about me. I do it with my own unique brand of boyish charm and I always come across as sincere (which I always am of course). Women have always seemed to respond well to my compliments. I think some men can come across as a bit sleazy or a bit pervy when paying a compliment. That definitely puts most women off. I see what you mean. But interestingly, the Counter-Compliment rule that the anthropologist was talking about was mostly, but not exclusively, in a woman/woman interaction." Women complimenting women is a whole other ballgame. I've seen this take place many times. There's usually a lot of mutual complimenting or a lot of self-deprecating involved. A woman very rarely in my experience just takes a compliment from another woman. She often will immediately comeback by giving a compliment back or will jokingly put herself down in some way. They rarely will just say thank you and accept it, like they would most likely to from a man. | |||
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"So do you guys think it is true humility or faux humility? I have seen both implied and explicitly stated in the responses so far. -Courtney" Its faux as its a polite formality of acceptance on meeting someone who you know but a good way of taking an extra moment to gauge responses to complement... LOL usually susses out most women in those brief but revealing exchanges... xx | |||
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"I was reading a book today by an anthropologist who studies English culture (he is English himself). He noted that English women follow something he called the "Counter-Compliment Rule." What this means is that one thing that English women do when they are greeting one another is: Woman A will compliment Woman B, Woman B will reject the compliment, and counter-compliment Woman A, and then Woman A will do the same, and so on. So: "'You're hair looks lovely Suzy.' 'What, this haircut? I think it looked better before. But your hair is looking very full and shiny!' 'Full? My hair always looks so thin...etc.' I have noticed that English women do in fact follow this pattern much more often than American women. In my experience, American women are much more likely to accept a compliment, and offer one back without the rejection. Anyway, men, have you found that English women to in fact reject the compliments you pay them? And women, do you think you follow this rule-pattern, and if so, why? And I mean this for everyday life more than on fab where I know we all look somewhat skeptically on compliments... -Courtney" I think people are taken back mostly, as do not expect a kind word so do not know fully how to handle it. Could possibly want to seem humble than arrogant? I like to think I could compliment someone but again I play down any I get. | |||
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"We are dealing with a whole side of the british culture that is quite hard to pin down. As a culture we rarely say exactly what we mean. We tend to use language in very subtle ways and tend to sidle upto subjects rather than broach them head on. That's why we are generally crap at giving compliments and worse at receiving them. Probably because we are always waiting for the witty comeback/putdown. So a direct, genuine, heartfelt compliment takes us aback as the direct approach is contrary to our nature. This isn't limited to women. Men have their own version. A good example is when men put their friends down in front of others when out. Having worked in america, the locals were disturbed to hear 'this is my mate dave, he's a bit of a dick' as they were operating on only one superficial level and took it as cock blocking, whereas we took it as a challenge to show you could overcome the putdown." It is very interesting that you mention this. The anthropologist I was reading noted this stark contrast in how women greet each other and how men greet each other. With the former you have blatant insults and with the latter you have rejected compliments. Apparently both are "polite" and the "done thing." I find both vaguely insulting. I noticed it when I came over here, but didn't connect the dots to see it as a cultural thing for a long time. -Courtney | |||
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"We are dealing with a whole side of the british culture that is quite hard to pin down. As a culture we rarely say exactly what we mean. We tend to use language in very subtle ways and tend to sidle upto subjects rather than broach them head on. That's why we are generally crap at giving compliments and worse at receiving them. Probably because we are always waiting for the witty comeback/putdown. So a direct, genuine, heartfelt compliment takes us aback as the direct approach is contrary to our nature. This isn't limited to women. Men have their own version. A good example is when men put their friends down in front of others when out. Having worked in america, the locals were disturbed to hear 'this is my mate dave, he's a bit of a dick' as they were operating on only one superficial level and took it as cock blocking, whereas we took it as a challenge to show you could overcome the putdown. It is very interesting that you mention this. The anthropologist I was reading noted this stark contrast in how women greet each other and how men greet each other. With the former you have blatant insults and with the latter you have rejected compliments. Apparently both are "polite" and the "done thing." I find both vaguely insulting. I noticed it when I came over here, but didn't connect the dots to see it as a cultural thing for a long time. -Courtney " Switch former and latter and that is actually what I meant. | |||
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"We are dealing with a whole side of the british culture that is quite hard to pin down. As a culture we rarely say exactly what we mean. We tend to use language in very subtle ways and tend to sidle upto subjects rather than broach them head on. That's why we are generally crap at giving compliments and worse at receiving them. Probably because we are always waiting for the witty comeback/putdown. So a direct, genuine, heartfelt compliment takes us aback as the direct approach is contrary to our nature. This isn't limited to women. Men have their own version. A good example is when men put their friends down in front of others when out. Having worked in america, the locals were disturbed to hear 'this is my mate dave, he's a bit of a dick' as they were operating on only one superficial level and took it as cock blocking, whereas we took it as a challenge to show you could overcome the putdown. It is very interesting that you mention this. The anthropologist I was reading noted this stark contrast in how women greet each other and how men greet each other. With the former you have blatant insults and with the latter you have rejected compliments. Apparently both are "polite" and the "done thing." I find both vaguely insulting. I noticed it when I came over here, but didn't connect the dots to see it as a cultural thing for a long time. -Courtney Switch former and latter and that is actually what I meant. " Dont worry. Its your one mistake of the day...next time I throw the board eraser at you haha | |||
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"I'd just like to compliment you all on your hairstyles, clothes and makeup " Thank you | |||
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"I'd just like to compliment you all on your hairstyles, clothes and makeup " No, I look hideous. You on the other hand are looking absolutely delightful (Am I honorary British, now?!?) -Courtney | |||
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"I'd just like to compliment you all on your hairstyles, clothes and makeup No, I look hideous. You on the other hand are looking absolutely delightful (Am I honorary British, now?!?) -Courtney " But you make thst outfit look amazing | |||
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"I'd just like to compliment you all on your hairstyles, clothes and makeup " Thank you. I think the stringy, needs a wash hair complements the scruffy t-shirt and pj bottoms and the make-up free face perfectly | |||
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"I was reading a book today by an anthropologist who studies English culture (he is English himself). He noted that English women follow something he called the "Counter-Compliment Rule." What this means is that one thing that English women do when they are greeting one another is: Woman A will compliment Woman B, Woman B will reject the compliment, and counter-compliment Woman A, and then Woman A will do the same, and so on. So: "'You're hair looks lovely Suzy.' 'What, this haircut? I think it looked better before. But your hair is looking very full and shiny!' 'Full? My hair always looks so thin...etc.' I have noticed that English women do in fact follow this pattern much more often than American women. In my experience, American women are much more likely to accept a compliment, and offer one back without the rejection. Anyway, men, have you found that English women to in fact reject the compliments you pay them? And women, do you think you follow this rule-pattern, and if so, why? And I mean this for everyday life more than on fab where I know we all look somewhat skeptically on compliments... -Courtney" I hate compliments often get told off for rejecting them!! Why do I hate them. Because it makes me feel embarrassed. And yes I answer with a compliment. In fairness fab is helping and when I'm told I give a great blowjob I'm beginning to say thanks | |||
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"I was reading a book today by an anthropologist who studies English culture (he is English himself). He noted that English women follow something he called the "Counter-Compliment Rule." What this means is that one thing that English women do when they are greeting one another is: Woman A will compliment Woman B, Woman B will reject the compliment, and counter-compliment Woman A, and then Woman A will do the same, and so on. So: "'You're hair looks lovely Suzy.' 'What, this haircut? I think it looked better before. But your hair is looking very full and shiny!' 'Full? My hair always looks so thin...etc.' I have noticed that English women do in fact follow this pattern much more often than American women. In my experience, American women are much more likely to accept a compliment, and offer one back without the rejection. Anyway, men, have you found that English women to in fact reject the compliments you pay them? And women, do you think you follow this rule-pattern, and if so, why? And I mean this for everyday life more than on fab where I know we all look somewhat skeptically on compliments... -Courtney I hate compliments often get told off for rejecting them!! Why do I hate them. Because it makes me feel embarrassed. And yes I answer with a compliment. In fairness fab is helping and when I'm told I give a great blowjob I'm beginning to say thanks " But why are compliments embarrassing? | |||
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"I was reading a book today by an anthropologist who studies English culture (he is English himself). He noted that English women follow something he called the "Counter-Compliment Rule." What this means is that one thing that English women do when they are greeting one another is: Woman A will compliment Woman B, Woman B will reject the compliment, and counter-compliment Woman A, and then Woman A will do the same, and so on. So: "'You're hair looks lovely Suzy.' 'What, this haircut? I think it looked better before. But your hair is looking very full and shiny!' 'Full? My hair always looks so thin...etc.' I have noticed that English women do in fact follow this pattern much more often than American women. In my experience, American women are much more likely to accept a compliment, and offer one back without the rejection. Anyway, men, have you found that English women to in fact reject the compliments you pay them? And women, do you think you follow this rule-pattern, and if so, why? And I mean this for everyday life more than on fab where I know we all look somewhat skeptically on compliments... -Courtney I hate compliments often get told off for rejecting them!! Why do I hate them. Because it makes me feel embarrassed. And yes I answer with a compliment. In fairness fab is helping and when I'm told I give a great blowjob I'm beginning to say thanks But why are compliments embarrassing? " I've no bloody idea. Inside I'm thinking yeah. Outwardly I'm thinking how do I respond. Maybe that's it. If someone says I'm pretty the last thing I want to say is thanks yes I am. I'd sound like a proper Prat | |||
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"I was reading a book today by an anthropologist who studies English culture (he is English himself). He noted that English women follow something he called the "Counter-Compliment Rule." What this means is that one thing that English women do when they are greeting one another is: Woman A will compliment Woman B, Woman B will reject the compliment, and counter-compliment Woman A, and then Woman A will do the same, and so on. So: "'You're hair looks lovely Suzy.' 'What, this haircut? I think it looked better before. But your hair is looking very full and shiny!' 'Full? My hair always looks so thin...etc.' I have noticed that English women do in fact follow this pattern much more often than American women. In my experience, American women are much more likely to accept a compliment, and offer one back without the rejection. Anyway, men, have you found that English women to in fact reject the compliments you pay them? And women, do you think you follow this rule-pattern, and if so, why? And I mean this for everyday life more than on fab where I know we all look somewhat skeptically on compliments... -Courtney I hate compliments often get told off for rejecting them!! Why do I hate them. Because it makes me feel embarrassed. And yes I answer with a compliment. In fairness fab is helping and when I'm told I give a great blowjob I'm beginning to say thanks But why are compliments embarrassing? " The embarrassment usually is to do with self confidence... xx | |||
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"I was reading a book today by an anthropologist who studies English culture (he is English himself). He noted that English women follow something he called the "Counter-Compliment Rule." What this means is that one thing that English women do when they are greeting one another is: Woman A will compliment Woman B, Woman B will reject the compliment, and counter-compliment Woman A, and then Woman A will do the same, and so on. So: "'You're hair looks lovely Suzy.' 'What, this haircut? I think it looked better before. But your hair is looking very full and shiny!' 'Full? My hair always looks so thin...etc.' I have noticed that English women do in fact follow this pattern much more often than American women. In my experience, American women are much more likely to accept a compliment, and offer one back without the rejection. Anyway, men, have you found that English women to in fact reject the compliments you pay them? And women, do you think you follow this rule-pattern, and if so, why? And I mean this for everyday life more than on fab where I know we all look somewhat skeptically on compliments... -Courtney I hate compliments often get told off for rejecting them!! Why do I hate them. Because it makes me feel embarrassed. And yes I answer with a compliment. In fairness fab is helping and when I'm told I give a great blowjob I'm beginning to say thanks But why are compliments embarrassing? I've no bloody idea. Inside I'm thinking yeah. Outwardly I'm thinking how do I respond. Maybe that's it. If someone says I'm pretty the last thing I want to say is thanks yes I am. I'd sound like a proper Prat" Why not just "Thanks, that's kind of you to say"? This is the part of the whole thing I can't get my head around. The idea that a "thank you" equates to a "fuck yeah, I'm the hottest thing you've ever seen." | |||
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"I was reading a book today by an anthropologist who studies English culture (he is English himself). He noted that English women follow something he called the "Counter-Compliment Rule." What this means is that one thing that English women do when they are greeting one another is: Woman A will compliment Woman B, Woman B will reject the compliment, and counter-compliment Woman A, and then Woman A will do the same, and so on. So: "'You're hair looks lovely Suzy.' 'What, this haircut? I think it looked better before. But your hair is looking very full and shiny!' 'Full? My hair always looks so thin...etc.' I have noticed that English women do in fact follow this pattern much more often than American women. In my experience, American women are much more likely to accept a compliment, and offer one back without the rejection. Anyway, men, have you found that English women to in fact reject the compliments you pay them? And women, do you think you follow this rule-pattern, and if so, why? And I mean this for everyday life more than on fab where I know we all look somewhat skeptically on compliments... -Courtney I hate compliments often get told off for rejecting them!! Why do I hate them. Because it makes me feel embarrassed. And yes I answer with a compliment. In fairness fab is helping and when I'm told I give a great blowjob I'm beginning to say thanks But why are compliments embarrassing? I've no bloody idea. Inside I'm thinking yeah. Outwardly I'm thinking how do I respond. Maybe that's it. If someone says I'm pretty the last thing I want to say is thanks yes I am. I'd sound like a proper Prat Why not just "Thanks, that's kind of you to say"? This is the part of the whole thing I can't get my head around. The idea that a "thank you" equates to a "fuck yeah, I'm the hottest thing you've ever seen." " Ok next time I get a compliment I will accept it | |||
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