FabSwingers.com forum: BBC news readers

By *teborah OP Couple
over a year ago

warrington

In a world full of cuts everywhere you look by everyone it would seem? Do you think it is fair the BBC newsreaders get in excess of 100K a year for what is essentially reading off an autocue from what I can see. and what do they do when they are not reading the autocue? the fact that they can find time to appear on other programs like celebrity dancing shit tells me they have an awful lot of free time. All at our expense. Then these patronising Fuckers read the bad news to us telling us of another soldiers life has been lost in Afghanistan, A soldier who is on 16k compared to there 100k! Seems fair hey!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Actually I do think it is fair.. thats the terms they negotiated for themselves/their agents and the company agreed to em..

good on them I say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmmm...I'm not sure what point the OP is trying to make. Someone has trained for a job, been lucky to be selected for it and earn a six figure salary and you begrudge them that because part of their job is to convey bad news concerning someone who has lost their life doing a job they trained for?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And Andy Gray reportedly on £1.7m a year for no more than a few minutes a week of inane banter...they think it's all over, it is now Andy!

Time to find the kitchen, Mr Gray.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I would imagine most BBC newsreaders for example, work more unsociable hours than the average member on this site.

I recently read the biography of Reginald Bosanquet and it made very interesting reading and was a great insight to just what a newsreader does, to start with he needed a degree to get a chance of working in the field at all.

What follows is all the shit jobs that the newroom throws at you, postings all over the world, living in crappy foreign hotels.

Bosenquet would have to be in the newsroom at Twelve Noon to ready himself for reading News at Ten....and often wouldn't get home until Two or Three in the morning if a big story broke.

And finally it isn't all autocue for newsreaders, they have to research and be aware of all the stories they cover before the programme goes out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

News Readers and presenters don't just read from auto-cue.

They need well developed social skills such as the ability to not lose their temper with inter_iewees. To stay calm under tremendous provocation. To relate as far as is humanly possible an unbiased report to the public.

They need to know about statute and what is likely to cause trouble at the beeb is they don't take heed.

They don't just read news. They are in the studio hours in advance preparing reports, reading reports, practising names of people and places, familiarising themselves with timetables , running orders , problems etc. They are there long after we think they've gone too. They are listening to instructions via earpiece all the time and supporting colleagues who are in the studio or in the field throughout the process.

It's credit to them that people consider it a piece of piss. That's because they do it professionally.

I don't think it's as dangerous as being a soldier. I find that a non starting comparison.

Loads of 'injustices' or capitalist lunacy in the world... sports players, pop starts etc all earning more than nurses, bin operatives, teachers etc.

They are not paid from the same purse.

Besides ......soldiers have all that false jingoisic shit to make them feel valued. What do they need with money ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I googled when I first saw the post and found an....

Asset manager £ 46,000 ...and a

Community nurse ( qualified Band 4 ) £18,000...

Both in the public sector and location ...

I read the OP as values....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In a world full of cuts everywhere you look by everyone it would seem? Do you think it is fair the BBC newsreaders get in excess of 100K a year for what is essentially reading off an autocue from what I can see. and what do they do when they are not reading the autocue? the fact that they can find time to appear on other programs like celebrity dancing shit tells me they have an awful lot of free time. All at our expense. Then these patronising Fuckers read the bad news to us telling us of another soldiers life has been lost in Afghanistan, A soldier who is on 16k compared to there 100k! Seems fair hey!"

The green eyed monster is a ferocious beast sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hmmmm...I'm not sure what point the OP is trying to make. Someone has trained for a job, been lucky to be selected for it and earn a six figure salary and you begrudge them that because part of their job is to convey bad news concerning someone who has lost their life doing a job they trained for?!!

Agreed. This is not the Soviet Union. Both the newsreader and the soldier chose thier careers and knew exactly what they were getting into.

I would also point out that to directly contrast a prime time television newsreader with a low ranking soldier is a false comparison.

A soldier of similar experience and rank (say, 10 years experience and several promotions) could quite possibly also earn in excess of £100,000 a year.

In addition, plenty of journalists and broadcasting staff on less than £20,000 a year also regularly get killed in war zones while reporting.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

The green eyed monster is a ferocious beast sometimes.

Ain't that the truth?

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By *ingleguy1973Man
over a year ago

peterborough

"A soldier of similar experience and rank (say, 10 years experience and several promotions) could quite possibly also earn in excess of £100,000 a year."

in what army??? i dont know any soldiers, even with a lot more than 10 years experience earnig £100k.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I note the op refers to only bbc newsreaders and not for example itv and channel 4.

I agree bbc newreaders presenters presenters etc are paid far to much for the job they do look at Jonathen ross for example who use to get paid millions for chatting to celebrities and insulting people on his bbc radio show.

I think the op needs to realise that it is not the newreaders that negotiate there own salary its there bosses.

In short the BBC is a law onto itself politicians have threatened to regulate them time and again but as per usual just empty words.

The BBC is unfortunatley funded by us the taxpayer by our tv liscence which wee have to pay by law.

rather than have a rant at inviduals such as newreaders your rants would be better directed at the BBC corporation and the government that allows them to continnue to fleece us through our television licence fee.

Just a note for thought, have you always noticed how the bbc are always ramming be eco friendly down our throats with various proframmes, This could not be becasue they have billions invested in shares of eco friendly enviroment companies could it.

I think they might be starting t oworry since all the experts are being found to have been somewhat economical on the truth over climate change, should it emerge that the green lobby was a myth then the bbc could become bankrupt overnight.

I bet if the op was offered a 100k news job he would not turn it down and become an eco warrior overnight, know i would lol

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

The BBC have money invested in other companies?.......enlighten us

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

The ONLY good thing I liked about living in the USA is their celebration of success. They truly applaud people who do well and try and raise their game to exceed. ( Not all but most certainly the majority I worked with )

Now in the UK sadly.. instead of raising ones own game, it so much easier to try and drag the winners down to their possibly under achieving level.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What 'law' makes us buy a TV license??

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I was under the impression that under the strict rules of BBC Licensing Income that they were only permitted to invest externally in companies that offer technical improvement in the corporation?

Hence their invsetment in Free_iew, Freesat, Apple etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And Andy Gray reportedly on £1.7m a year for no more than a few minutes a week of inane banter...they think it's all over, it is now Andy!

Time to find the kitchen, Mr Gray."

how many people will miss this irritating shitbag anyway, he can go fuck himself and take that gert big fuck off anoraks "i pad "with him.

also the same to richard keys his talk of jamie redknapp "smashing" some lass was comical.were sure the twat had a hard on whilst talking about it...pure charachterless head too big for his body ponce

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"What 'law' makes us buy a TV license??"

Isn't it the Communications Act?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet if the op was offered a 100k news job he would not turn it down and become an eco warrior overnight, know i would lol

Getting the hang of this editing thing ...

That is a contention that presupposes the strength of someones values...I would suggest.....they may value their belief more strongly than money..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hi jane i am not proffessing to be an expert the info i heard was on dispatches some time ago.

Yes they also have shares invested in other companies as foodfor thought its nice to know they can gamble with our money from our license fees.

Maybe i am being a touch pedentric but should the money they take from us through our license fee not be used for entertaining us the tax payers.

thinking about it putting other peoples money on shares for there own profit i feel well bit like me taking money of you that you did not agree to and placing it on a bet at the bookies.

Bloody bbc grrrrrrr

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet if the op was offered a 100k news job he would not turn it down and become an eco warrior overnight, know i would lol

Getting the hang of this editing thing ...

That is a contention that presupposes the strength of someones values...I would suggest.....they may value their belief more strongly than money.."

Maybe your right but values do not feed your family do they. Its a bit like when a footballer leaves one club to join another for more money he is called a tritor. yet when the mudslinger jumps ship for a better paid job he is not. anyway getting of the thread a bit here.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"hi jane i am not proffessing to be an expert the info i heard was on dispatches some time ago.

Yes they also have shares invested in other companies as foodfor thought its nice to know they can gamble with our money from our license fees.

Maybe i am being a touch pedentric but should the money they take from us through our license fee not be used for entertaining us the tax payers.

thinking about it putting other peoples money on shares for there own profit i feel well bit like me taking money of you that you did not agree to and placing it on a bet at the bookies.

Bloody bbc grrrrrrr

I think you need to come back with facts about the money that the BBC has invested in enviromental companies to be honest, according to the BBC Royal Charter the BBC has to apply to the Secretary of State before investing in external companies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet if the op was offered a 100k news job he would not turn it down and become an eco warrior overnight, know i would lol

Getting the hang of this editing thing ...

That is a contention that presupposes the strength of someones values...I would suggest.....they may value their belief more strongly than money..

Why can`t values feed your family ?

They inform what each and every one of us do every day ...and society ...

What do you suppose the Chancellor values?

A vibrant economy ..that creates wealth ?

I thought values lay at the heart of the OP`s question ...mabye its me ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not disagreeing with you Jane, as i said i am no expert i am just going of what i watched and what was reported on dispatches, i would go looking for the facts ...if i could be bothered

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dave /Shaz we all have values, I can not remember anbody being given a saint hood within the last 100 years so there fore none of us are beyond corrupting our own values ..if the price is right .. Sometimes we corrupt ourselves not over just money . have you ever lied for a friend ?

Pleas allow me to introduce myself im a man of wealth and taste ....well the boss is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dave /Shaz we all have values, I can not remember anbody being given a saint hood within the last 100 years so there fore none of us are beyond corrupting our own values ..if the price is right .. Sometimes we corrupt ourselves not over just money . have you ever lied for a friend ?

Pleas allow me to introduce myself im a man of wealth and taste ....well the boss is

Fair enough chap....

You`re free to be who you are ....

I like yer candour ...

And yes...I have lied for a friend in the past ...and put me in an intolerable position .....Really screwed me up ....I wont do it again ..

Happy Swinging

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dave / Shaz well we all have i am sure at some stage. I was not having a go at you guys in previous post i was just speaking generally so any offence caused was notintended and my apologies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"dave / Shaz well we all have i am sure at some stage. I was not having a go at you guys in previous post i was just speaking generally so any offence caused was notintended and my apologies

Hey ...we`re all cool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A soldier of similar experience and rank (say, 10 years experience and several promotions) could quite possibly also earn in excess of £100,000 a year.

in what army??? i dont know any soldiers, even with a lot more than 10 years experience earnig £100k. "

Sorry 10 years was a typo - meant 20.

Saying you don't know any doesn't mean there are none.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A soldier of similar experience and rank (say, 10 years experience and several promotions) could quite possibly also earn in excess of £100,000 a year.

in what army??? i dont know any soldiers, even with a lot more than 10 years experience earnig £100k.

Sorry 10 years was a typo - meant 20.

Saying you don't know any doesn't mean there are none."

Just to reinforce the above:

"In the Armed Forces, 832 individuals earn more than £100,000 a year – excluding civil servants working in the Ministry of Defence." - Daily Telegraph, September 2010

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By *ingleguy1973Man
over a year ago

peterborough

"A soldier of similar experience and rank (say, 10 years experience and several promotions) could quite possibly also earn in excess of £100,000 a year.

in what army??? i dont know any soldiers, even with a lot more than 10 years experience earnig £100k.

Sorry 10 years was a typo - meant 20.

Saying you don't know any doesn't mean there are none.

Just to reinforce the above:

"In the Armed Forces, 832 individuals earn more than £100,000 a year – excluding civil servants working in the Ministry of Defence." - Daily Telegraph, September 2010"

not disputing your facts but 832 is a very small percentage of the armed forces. you are talking only very senior and high ranking officers... chiefs of the defence staff etc not the average tom out on the ground getting amongst it who would be lucky to earn £100k in his/her first 4 or 5 years service.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The guys, and it's still almost all guys, getting £100,000 + are Generals, Admirals, Air Chief Marshals and the very, very few above those ranks.

Almost all will have 30+ years service and many will have seen active service in their younger days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"not disputing your facts but 832 is a very small percentage of the armed forces. you are talking only very senior and high ranking officers... chiefs of the defence staff etc not the average tom out on the ground getting amongst it who would be lucky to earn £100k in his/her first 4 or 5 years service."

I agree completely, but this is my point.

Prime time TV news readers similarly represent a very small percentage of journalists who have risen to the top of their chosen profession.

If we're going to make a fair comparison, it has to be with the most experienced personnel at the top of the army, not the bottom. And what I'm saying is, those people at the top of the Armed Forces hierarchy earn similar amounts.

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By *heWolfMan
over a year ago

warwickshire

"I would imagine most BBC newsreaders for example, work more unsociable hours than the average member on this site.

What follows is all the shit jobs that the newroom throws at you, postings all over the world, living in crappy foreign hotels.

Bosenquet would have to be in the newsroom at Twelve Noon to ready himself for reading News at Ten....and often wouldn't get home until Two or Three in the morning if a big story broke."

Interspersed by regular visits to the bar.

Newsreaders used to be the cocks of the walk, the Premier league footballers of their day, hard-drinking shag monsters. Look at Peter Woods, who turned out to be the dad of Justin Webb (another reporter) - he had the news faded out on him once because he was slurring. No wonder he had bags under his eyes, he was out knobbing secretarys and ripping up the BBC bar all night. What a hero!

What do we have today? Tossers like Alastair Stewart, pretentious dicksplash that he is. I shit you not, he was reading the news on Friday night, put on his most serious "Earth Shattering News" face (and you all know what it looks like) and interrupted the report to show the President of Egypt giving a live speech to the Egyptian people. He then informs us there is no Egyptian translator available, and the subtitles are all in Arabic.

Oh, nice work News at Ten, that was relevant! Mr Stewart never batted an eyelid, he just carried on looking like Jesus had flown onto the White House Lawn in Bigfoot's UFO. One thing's for sure, the BBC's Michael Buerk would have done his job, interrupted the story for the live feed, but you just know he'd have raised his eyebrow in that "Fucking-hell-the-things-I-have-to-do" way of his, he'd not have looked like that twat Stewart.

Luckily the old days of hellraising newsreaders is over, thank god. It means we can have sweetly pretty newsreaders with heaving bosoms and tight blouses, pouting and perching on the edge of the desk, just like they are about to nip off and make you a cup of tea, but just had to tell you the news first. Who cares about stagflation, just show another inch of Suzanna Reid's thighs. It's killing me to know whether she wears stockings or tights, but the camera angle is giving nothing away, one way or the other. I'd give my eye teeth to see her bikini wrestling in a pool of custard with Kirsty Young.

Get onto it BBC!

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By *teborah OP Couple
over a year ago

warrington

Andrew Marr, the BBC's outgoing political editor, controversially suggested this week that newsreaders are paid too much money for merely "reading an autocue".

His comments were supported by John Humphrys, host of BBC Radio 4's Today programme, who said reading the news "isn't work" and "requires no brain".

Are newsreaders overpaid for doing a very simple job? Or is reading the news a demanding and highly specialised skill?

When asked for his opinion, former BBC correspondent Michael Cole is unequivocal.

"If it's done well it looks very simple," he told the BBC News website. "If it's done badly everyone can tell."

"It's an easy thing to snipe at, but a good news presenter is worth his or her weight in gold."

Perceived value

In some cases, this comment can almost be taken literally.

Sir Trevor McDonald earns a reported salary of £600,000 a year for presenting ITV's late evening news bulletin four times a week. (Now theres a bargain!!) NOT!

Please feel free to name one person in the armed forces that earn that money?? go ahead just one!!

Five's Kirsty Young earns a reported £500,000 a year, while even relative newcomers like the BBC's Darren Jordon and ITV's Katie Derham can command wages upwards of £100,000 per annum.

But Conor Dignam, editor of industry newspaper Broadcast, says these figures merely reflect their perceived value in the marketplace.

"Their salaries seem quite big (QUITE BIG?? No sunshine in the real world that is called a piss take) compared to other journalists or correspondents, but ultimately the market decides," he told the BBC News website.

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

What you latest post proves is that the BBC are getting good value for our money; in that they are only (yes only) paying their newsreaders what they do and not 5 to 6 times more like the independent TV channels!

Whether or not you believe they are worth being paid the £100,000+ is neither here nor there, their employers do and that's the contract they signed up to to do their job just like you, me and everyone else who is employed!

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By *teborah OP Couple
over a year ago

warrington

So the licence paying public dont or shouldnt have an opinion then?? Andrew Marr who proberbly knows much more about what is going on inside the BBC than both you and I says the same about newsreaders and the Autocue bit.

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

"So the licence paying public dont or shouldnt have an opinion then?? Andrew Marr who proberbly knows much more about what is going on inside the BBC than both you and I says the same about newsreaders and the Autocue bit.

They should have an opinion yeah but you seem to have missed the biggest point in my post -

The BBC are paying a hell of a lot less than the other independent TV channels (proved by your own post) so if you compare the 2, then the licence fee paying public are getting value for money in the TV Newsreaders market!

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By *teborah OP Couple
over a year ago

warrington

No i understand the comparison, the message I get from that is they are being paid way way to much also but since MY money doesnt pay them directly then I cant really moan and i take your point regards contracts etc. but when I see the pompus bbc arseholes each morning spouting out shite at our expense then that pisses me off. you could employ in excess of 5 nurses for the price of one of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why not watch ITV ?

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

"No i understand the comparison, the message I get from that is they are being paid way way to much also but since MY money doesnt pay them directly then I cant really moan and i take your point regards contracts etc. but when I see the pompus bbc arseholes each morning spouting out shite at our expense then that pisses me off. you could employ in excess of 5 nurses for the price of one of them."

Nurses don't read the News though; Newsreaders do

and if that is the going rate for them, then that is what they get paid!

If their salaries are cut then everyone below them should also get a cut in wages too right down to those that are on more meager wages and might be struggling as it is on what they get paid!

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Which begs the question....if working for the BBC is such a doddle, with such high pay....why is Andrew Marr leaving?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

starting to get the jist of these forums people come here to have a moan lol.

why choose bbc news readers, a lot of people in television are paid to much including sportsmen.

I do not agree that these people deserve to be paid the salaries they are compared to people like nurses soildiers and of course people like me lol.

Do we really need newsreaders..when we have newspapers. Maybe i should sit on a bus and read out loud and charge the people listening 100k.

News readers are not journalists they use to be journalists but these days are they not mostly presenters who become newsreaders such as Christine Bleakley, whose journalistic talent was a floor manager before landing the presenting job of the one show. so can not anyone be a newsreader ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the op's point is valid in as much as that the bbc are funded by the tax payer and as such, should be under any over regulation that is covered by govenrment policy...imho

every other public sector department are looking at 2 year pay freezes and the serving personnel are losing many of the inconvenience allowances they currently receive....such as travel home...they used to get a warrant every month to travel home to see family, now they are being cut to 10 a year.

even their 20 minute phone call home a week is being trimmed! 20 fecking minutes.....

it is worth comparing the bbc staff because of how they are funded

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the op's point is valid in as much as that the bbc are funded by the tax payer and as such, should be under any over regulation that is covered by govenrment policy...imho

even their 20 minute phone call home a week is being trimmed! 20 fecking minutes.....

it is worth comparing the bbc staff because of how they are funded"

I would pay you 100k to present the news hell with eyes like that you could bring peace to the middle east

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the op's point is valid in as much as that the bbc are funded by the tax payer and as such, should be under any over regulation that is covered by govenrment policy...imho

even their 20 minute phone call home a week is being trimmed! 20 fecking minutes.....

it is worth comparing the bbc staff because of how they are funded

I would pay you 100k to present the news hell with eyes like that you could bring peace to the middle east

So you'd pay £100k for a pair of eyes but begrudge the beeb for paying that for a whole body?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Actually I do think it is fair.. thats the terms they negotiated for themselves/their agents and the company agreed to em..

good on them I say.

Im with _iew on this one

Nice work if ya can get it and if i could get it i would xx

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