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"Try Collingwood ins newcastle upon Tyne they do weekly ins or take out a month and then cancel it the next day and get a refund, hope this helps" this is company thats qouted me for a month ta i might ring see if can do better and check cancellation charges. Cheers | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you?" ive not got an instructor. | |||
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"just google it init one day insurance cover my insurance covers me to drive any cat 3rd party with owners consent" Are you absolutely sure your cover includes DOC? It used to be pretty standard but was changed fairly recently, and now it's less common. You should double check just in case before risking it. | |||
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"just google it init one day insurance cover my insurance covers me to drive any cat 3rd party with owners consent Are you absolutely sure your cover includes DOC? It used to be pretty standard but was changed fairly recently, and now it's less common. You should double check just in case before risking it." what a lot say now is car must have its own insurance. That combined with stay insured stops people driving cars they cant afford to insure. I had a 1.1 fiesta but drove a japaness supercar.  | |||
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"Is your test soon.. Theres quite a wait... " a while off. Really takes the pee. A year ban is actually a 15 month ban due to waiting for licence. Waiting for theory. Waiting for test. Good job im in no hurry to get back behind the wheel. | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. " . If you do not have an instructor , how do you expect to pass? Had you had an assessment ?. | |||
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"Is your test soon.. Theres quite a wait... a while off. Really takes the pee. A year ban is actually a 15 month ban due to waiting for licence. Waiting for theory. Waiting for test. Good job im in no hurry to get back behind the wheel. " Wtf did you do to get a ban? | |||
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"Is your test soon.. Theres quite a wait... a while off. Really takes the pee. A year ban is actually a 15 month ban due to waiting for licence. Waiting for theory. Waiting for test. Good job im in no hurry to get back behind the wheel. " It's not really 'taking the pee' is it?Presumably you've been disqualified for dangerous driving or driving under the influence. You don't tend to get ordered to resit a test for totting yp penalty points Besides you get a provivional licence when yours ban expires so can still drive with L plates  | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. . If you do not have an instructor , how do you expect to pass? Had you had an assessment ?." Im ROSPA Advanced driver and 23 years experience | |||
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"Is your test soon.. Theres quite a wait... a while off. Really takes the pee. A year ban is actually a 15 month ban due to waiting for licence. Waiting for theory. Waiting for test. Good job im in no hurry to get back behind the wheel. It's not really 'taking the pee' is it?Presumably you've been disqualified for dangerous driving or driving under the influence. You don't tend to get ordered to resit a test for totting yp penalty points Besides you get a provivional licence when yours ban expires so can still drive with L plates "L plates test only lol. Dangerouse. Red MIST kicked in after hit and run by a 3rd party. | |||
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"Is your test soon.. Theres quite a wait... a while off. Really takes the pee. A year ban is actually a 15 month ban due to waiting for licence. Waiting for theory. Waiting for test. Good job im in no hurry to get back behind the wheel. It's not really 'taking the pee' is it?Presumably you've been disqualified for dangerous driving or driving under the influence. You don't tend to get ordered to resit a test for totting yp penalty points Besides you get a provivional licence when yours ban expires so can still drive with L plates L plates test only lol. Dangerouse. Red MIST kicked in after hit and run by a 3rd party. "If you think they are taking the piss perhaps you are not yet ready to get behind the wheel again | |||
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"Is your test soon.. Theres quite a wait... a while off. Really takes the pee. A year ban is actually a 15 month ban due to waiting for licence. Waiting for theory. Waiting for test. Good job im in no hurry to get back behind the wheel. It's not really 'taking the pee' is it?Presumably you've been disqualified for dangerous driving or driving under the influence. You don't tend to get ordered to resit a test for totting yp penalty points Besides you get a provivional licence when yours ban expires so can still drive with L plates L plates test only lol. Dangerouse. Red MIST kicked in after hit and run by a 3rd party.
If you think they are taking the piss perhaps you are not yet ready to get behind the wheel again"o they are. As said Im a ROSPA ADvance driver and member and no rush to drive. But for employment even office based jobs seem to require drivers license im not interested in driving. ID is also a major issue. Hense only need insurance for test. Not even planning on driving to test or driving home. But will allow me to go track days and work on family members cars without being done for incharge of vehicle without a license. Also in emergancys i can drive if needed. | |||
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"Is your test soon.. Theres quite a wait... a while off. Really takes the pee. A year ban is actually a 15 month ban due to waiting for licence. Waiting for theory. Waiting for test. Good job im in no hurry to get back behind the wheel. It's not really 'taking the pee' is it?Presumably you've been disqualified for dangerous driving or driving under the influence. You don't tend to get ordered to resit a test for totting yp penalty points Besides you get a provivional licence when yours ban expires so can still drive with L plates L plates test only lol. Dangerouse. Red MIST kicked in after hit and run by a 3rd party.
If you think they are taking the piss perhaps you are not yet ready to get behind the wheel again o they are. As said Im a ROSPA ADvance driver and member and no rush to drive. But for employment even office based jobs seem to require drivers license im not interested in driving. ID is also a major issue. Hense only need insurance for test. Not even planning on driving to test or driving home. But will allow me to go track days and work on family members cars without being done for incharge of vehicle without a license. Also in emergancys i can drive if needed. "You lost your licence because you were driving so dangerous the courts revoked it and ordered you to sit an advanced test. I'm really not sure why you keep saying you are a a ROSPA advanced driver. Or why you seem to feel that you are the victim because having to sit your test is a logistical nightmare. That;s because insurance companies and driving instructors don't want to go near people that are so high risk. | |||
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"Is your test soon.. Theres quite a wait... a while off. Really takes the pee. A year ban is actually a 15 month ban due to waiting for licence. Waiting for theory. Waiting for test. Good job im in no hurry to get back behind the wheel. It's not really 'taking the pee' is it?Presumably you've been disqualified for dangerous driving or driving under the influence. You don't tend to get ordered to resit a test for totting yp penalty points Besides you get a provivional licence when yours ban expires so can still drive with L plates L plates test only lol. Dangerouse. Red MIST kicked in after hit and run by a 3rd party.
If you think they are taking the piss perhaps you are not yet ready to get behind the wheel again o they are. As said Im a ROSPA ADvance driver and member and no rush to drive. But for employment even office based jobs seem to require drivers license im not interested in driving. ID is also a major issue. Hense only need insurance for test. Not even planning on driving to test or driving home. But will allow me to go track days and work on family members cars without being done for incharge of vehicle without a license. Also in emergancys i can drive if needed.
You lost your licence because you were driving so dangerous the courts revoked it and ordered you to sit an advanced test.
I'm really not sure why you keep saying you are a a ROSPA advanced driver. Or why you seem to feel that you are the victim because having to sit your test is a logistical nightmare. That;s because insurance companies and driving instructors don't want to go near people that are so high risk. "i more tgan a compantant driver. It attidude that my problem. Some one smashes into your car. Then rams you off road and fleas scene. My mistake was chasing them down and forcing them to stop. 22 years clean licence 15 years ncd no criminal record all gone in 3 minutes. I can get instructor to lend me a car. But new cars arnt for me. Reversing cameras. beeping alerts. lights flashing to say change gear eletronic hand brake and hill hold technology along with all the other stuff lol. No wonder people cant drive after passing test buying a 10 year old car. With only abs fitted. My son starts learning in march 10 leason with instructor then on to an old banger. | |||
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"It's pretty astounding that someone who claims to be a ROSPA advanced driver ; 1. Has been banned; since everything you learn would make it almost impossible to get banned ( if you actually continue to follow what you have learned) 2. Has such a dreadful attitude to driving. You must have put on a convincing show for the examiner , if you fooled him for a whole test. ( and indeed your instructors, if they didn't realise what you are like during your training). The ROSPA bike test is harder than the car one, but even so, I am astounded you got through with that attitude . What did you get? Bronze? Silver? How long ago? How many ROSPA periodical retests have you done? " silver only last year. Brake test was at to slow a speed got caught out by a new speed limit change. stalled pulling away.vocabulary could have been better. But i think the 22 years clean 15 year ncd. Talks for its self. | |||
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"It's pretty astounding that someone who claims to be a ROSPA advanced driver ; 1. Has been banned; since everything you learn would make it almost impossible to get banned ( if you actually continue to follow what you have learned) 2. Has such a dreadful attitude to driving. You must have put on a convincing show for the examiner , if you fooled him for a whole test. ( and indeed your instructors, if they didn't realise what you are like during your training). The ROSPA bike test is harder than the car one, but even so, I am astounded you got through with that attitude . What did you get? Bronze? Silver? How long ago? How many ROSPA periodical retests have you done? " Anyone can have the red mist set in even traffic police officiers. | |||
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"This is supposed to be about if anyone knows a insurance company lmfao. " It is quite normal for threads to drift off topic. | |||
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"This is supposed to be about if anyone knows a insurance company lmfao. It is quite normal for threads to drift off topic." yep nosey opinonated people lol | |||
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"This is supposed to be about if anyone knows a insurance company lmfao. It is quite normal for threads to drift off topic. yep nosey opinonated people lol" Well, in this case just interested people. | |||
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"A friend off mine bought a nice new Tesla S come to mine with 85 miles on the clock and gave me the keys to drive it. Think that goes to show confidence in my abilities lol. I politely declined as at £85.000 its way more than i want to drive on public roads. But roll on Santa pod "See? Even you drift off thread. It is what the forum is for. | |||
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"A friend off mine bought a nice new Tesla S come to mine with 85 miles on the clock and gave me the keys to drive it. Think that goes to show confidence in my abilities lol. I politely declined as at £85.000 its way more than i want to drive on public roads. But roll on Santa pod
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"This is supposed to be about if anyone knows a insurance company lmfao. It is quite normal for threads to drift off topic. yep nosey opinonated people lol Well, in this case just interested people." Especially when the OP invites opinion by trying to use a ROPSA qualification to show that he is a good driver; Somehow to me it seems a ban shows how good s driver he is: My opinion; but then I am opinionated. | |||
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" i more tgan a compantant driver. It attidude that my problem. " Do you not see how the second sentence negates the first? | |||
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"Just use google to find an insurer or maybe a driving instructor would know of an insurer that you can use. " googled loads but for test cover seems near impossible | |||
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" i more tgan a compantant driver. It attidude that my problem. Do you not see how the second sentence negates the first?" nope | |||
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"Try Collingwood ins newcastle upon Tyne they do weekly ins or take out a month and then cancel it the next day and get a refund, hope this helps" no luck min is a months cover. | |||
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" i more tgan a compantant driver. It attidude that my problem. Do you not see how the second sentence negates the first?nope " So you honestly think that a driver with a bad attitude can be competent? I'd describe them as a liability | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage?" says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. | |||
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"Try Collingwood ins newcastle upon Tyne they do weekly ins or take out a month and then cancel it the next day and get a refund, hope this helpsno luck min is a months cover. " . If you can borrow an instructors car , why not just have a few lessons and do your test in his ..?. We have have to adopt to modern technology.. | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. " . And what happened to the third party . Were they prosecuted ?. | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. " Is the retest mandatory then? | |||
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" i more tgan a compantant driver. It attidude that my problem. Do you not see how the second sentence negates the first?nope So you honestly think that a driver with a bad attitude can be competent? I'd describe them as a liability" ive no intention off driving after loosing it like that. Cost me to much. | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Is the retest mandatory then? " for certain offences | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. . And what happened to the third party . Were they prosecuted ?. " apparently not. Even though had a list off priors. Snapped door mirror off car i was driving and hit car with steering wheel basball bat. Apparently cops messed up case and cps wouldnt act because off that. Video evidence two statements matched. His statement didnt even match video evidence. His video evidence should road rage 2 mins prior against another driver and had his finger prints taken from door mirror. Big fck up by police. Calmer will come round is all i know  | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. . And what happened to the third party . Were they prosecuted ?. apparently not. Even though had a list off priors. Snapped door mirror off car i was driving and hit car with steering wheel basball bat. Apparently cops messed up case and cps wouldnt act because off that. Video evidence two statements matched. His statement didnt even match video evidence. His video evidence should road rage 2 mins prior against another driver and had his finger prints taken from door mirror. Big fck up by police. Calmer will come round is all i know "But you were convicted and blame it on "red mist?" Might I humbly suggest that you address that issue before returning to the road - or even making yourself eligible to driving again? Sure, most of us would be pissed off by a hit and run but most of us would weigh up the risk to other road users before trying to respond. Even the police have to do that. I really am not wanting to sound self-righteous. But I am not sure you being on the road at the moment would be quite the right thing, even if it was just for an emergency. Tin hat on, by the way. | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. . And what happened to the third party . Were they prosecuted ?. apparently not. Even though had a list off priors. Snapped door mirror off car i was driving and hit car with steering wheel basball bat. Apparently cops messed up case and cps wouldnt act because off that. Video evidence two statements matched. His statement didnt even match video evidence. His video evidence should road rage 2 mins prior against another driver and had his finger prints taken from door mirror. Big fck up by police. Calmer will come round is all i know
But you were convicted and blame it on "red mist?"
Might I humbly suggest that you address that issue before returning to the road - or even making yourself eligible to driving again?
Sure, most of us would be pissed off by a hit and run but most of us would weigh up the risk to other road users before trying to respond. Even the police have to do that.
I really am not wanting to sound self-righteous. But I am not sure you being on the road at the moment would be quite the right thing, even if it was just for an emergency. Tin hat on, by the way."lol given cant change who you are though. Hense no desire to drive on public roads. | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. " Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car! | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car!" i can but because off all the technology want to avoid i . But looking like will have too. Months insurance for 70 min test is rediculouse. | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car! i can but because off all the technology want to avoid i . But looking like will have too. Months insurance for 70 min test is rediculouse. " . How much is a months insurance ?. I was quoted about one hundred pounds when I checked. a month ago. | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car! i can but because off all the technology want to avoid i . But looking like will have too. Months insurance for 70 min test is rediculouse. " Why are you avoiding " all the technology"? you have explained that you are an extremely skilled driver (  ) so you can cope with it! | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car! i can but because off all the technology want to avoid i . But looking like will have too. Months insurance for 70 min test is rediculouse. . How much is a months insurance ?. I was quoted about one hundred pounds when I checked. a month ago. " £140 | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car! i can but because off all the technology want to avoid i . But looking like will have too. Months insurance for 70 min test is rediculouse. . How much is a months insurance ?. I was quoted about one hundred pounds when I checked. a month ago. " £140 | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car! i can but because off all the technology want to avoid i . But looking like will have too. Months insurance for 70 min test is rediculouse. Why are you avoiding " all the technology"? you have explained that you are an extremely skilled driver ( ) so you can cope with it!"cause ill have to drive there to get usef to itore time on road. | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car! i can but because off all the technology want to avoid i . But looking like will have too. Months insurance for 70 min test is rediculouse. " It's a 140 quid - man up - this is your fault your in this situation | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. " Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car! i can but because off all the technology want to avoid i . But looking like will have too. Months insurance for 70 min test is rediculouse. It's a 140 quid - man up - this is your fault your in this situation " thats more than a weeks wages and i have family to consider not there fault. Should i punnish them for my mistakes. Id rather not. I can have friends car for £70 so will prob have to go that way. | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned " yes i guess should have got decent representation. Would have saved all this lol. | |||
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"You see I dont agree with using someone who might get you off even though you did it .... if you were nicked for dangerous driving and admitted to it, you shouldn't get away with it. Did they offer you help with your anger while driving?" i only pleaded guilty to take the stress away from family. As far as im concerened it wasnt dangerous. No help. Done tharapy twice before. If i snap. i snap thats it. The ears turn off adrenaline pumps. Will never change. Just try to avoid such situations occuring. Avoidence techniques. | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car! i can but because off all the technology want to avoid i . But looking like will have too. Months insurance for 70 min test is rediculouse. . How much is a months insurance ?. I was quoted about one hundred pounds when I checked. a month ago. £140" . That does not seem unreasonable to me | |||
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"Would the instructors insurance not cover you? ive not got an instructor. Sorry, misread. Thought you said you were hiring an instructors car! i can but because off all the technology want to avoid i . But looking like will have too. Months insurance for 70 min test is rediculouse. . How much is a months insurance ?. I was quoted about one hundred pounds when I checked. a month ago. £140. That does not seem unreasonable to me " not for a months worth if thats what you would use lol quite reasonable. | |||
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"Sorry its not just driving its anything anytime. Great advert. "respectful people need not worry. but disrespect me which normally is caused but an illegal activity against me. Xan be a mistake. Im as nice as pie 99.99% off the time. | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned yes i guess should have got decent representation. Would have saved all this lol. " . From your other thread ,I assume that you got representation , but that the standard of the representation was insufficient for the magistrates to find you not guilty. | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned yes i guess should have got decent representation. Would have saved all this lol. . From your other thread ,I assume that you got representation , but that the standard of the representation was insufficient for the magistrates to find you not guilty. " crown court. Representation was very poor. I really messed up going duty solicitor and barrister. But hey another mistake. Doh | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned yes i guess should have got decent representation. Would have saved all this lol. . From your other thread ,I assume that you got representation , but that the standard of the representation was insufficient for the magistrates to find you not guilty. crown court. Representation was very poor. I really messed up going duty solicitor and barrister. But hey another mistake. Doh" no you messed up with your driving. You really don;t seem to see that | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned yes i guess should have got decent representation. Would have saved all this lol. . From your other thread ,I assume that you got representation , but that the standard of the representation was insufficient for the magistrates to find you not guilty. crown court. Representation was very poor. I really messed up going duty solicitor and barrister. But hey another mistake. Doh no you messed up with your driving. You really don;t seem to see that O I do. But it was careless driving at worst. " Exactly. You don't see it. You;ve repeatedly said what a good driver you are. The police, the CPS and a judge don;t agree | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned yes i guess should have got decent representation. Would have saved all this lol. . From your other thread ,I assume that you got representation , but that the standard of the representation was insufficient for the magistrates to find you not guilty. crown court. Representation was very poor. I really messed up going duty solicitor and barrister. But hey another mistake. Doh no you messed up with your driving. You really don;t seem to see that O I do. But it was careless driving at worst. Exactly. You don't see it. You;ve repeatedly said what a good driver you are. The police, the CPS and a judge don;t agree" for 3 mins of a 22 year driving career lol. | |||
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"I should have said i felt scared and intimidated when 3rd party got out with base ball bat style steering lock and hit car with it. But being honest i said no. Doh mistake" That doesn't justify dangerous driving on your part. You could of killed an innocent person for the sake of "red mist" if you suffer with such anger while driving then I would seriously consider rethinking whether you drive or not. You acted irresponsible and dangerously. Will your red mist go one further where you would cause physical harm to another person that pissed you off on the roads. | |||
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"I should have said i felt scared and intimidated when 3rd party got out with base ball bat style steering lock and hit car with it. But being honest i said no. Doh mistake That doesn't justify dangerous driving on your part. You could of killed an innocent person for the sake of "red mist" if you suffer with such anger while driving then I would seriously consider rethinking whether you drive or not. You acted irresponsible and dangerously. Will your red mist go one further where you would cause physical harm to another person that pissed you off on the roads. " you didnt read i do not intend to drive ect for the test up to 70 mins lol | |||
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"I should have said i felt scared and intimidated when 3rd party got out with base ball bat style steering lock and hit car with it. But being honest i said no. Doh mistake That doesn't justify dangerous driving on your part. You could of killed an innocent person for the sake of "red mist" if you suffer with such anger while driving then I would seriously consider rethinking whether you drive or not. You acted irresponsible and dangerously. Will your red mist go one further where you would cause physical harm to another person that pissed you off on the roads. you didnt read i do not intend to drive ect for the test up to 70 mins lol" But you said that most office jobs require driving licenses so what if they requested you to drive? I'd really question your motives in getting your license back. | |||
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"I should have said i felt scared and intimidated when 3rd party got out with base ball bat style steering lock and hit car with it. But being honest i said no. Doh mistake That doesn't justify dangerous driving on your part. You could of killed an innocent person for the sake of "red mist" if you suffer with such anger while driving then I would seriously consider rethinking whether you drive or not. You acted irresponsible and dangerously. Will your red mist go one further where you would cause physical harm to another person that pissed you off on the roads. you didnt read i do not intend to drive ect for the test up to 70 mins lol But you said that most office jobs require driving licenses so what if they requested you to drive? I'd really question your motives in getting your license back. " well thats another hurdle the dont ask if you drive. Its also as said to be able to handle car keys work on cars. Shunt cars. Be in a car with keys. Sit with learner loads off reasons to have. Drive in an emergancy. ID. Raceing as i do enjoy a good track day or 1/4 mileing as said above i yet to drive a Tesla S in insane mod | |||
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"I should have said i felt scared and intimidated when 3rd party got out with base ball bat style steering lock and hit car with it. But being honest i said no. Doh mistake" . When you chased the car , did it not occur to you that the driver of the vehicle who hit you and failed to stop might not be the friendiest of people and would be unlikely to react well when subsequently boxed in by yourself . Assuming your facts are correct it would appear that the accident was not your fault and has cost your dearly . However your other thread on not receiving the costs bill and not being aware of them does throw some doubt on the matter . If as you say your record is spotless , I hope that you get your licence back shortly. I would just borrow an instructors car as advanced drivers need to be familiar with all modern technology . Good luck in the test and just leave the insurers or police to chase the culprits next time . | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned yes i guess should have got decent representation. Would have saved all this lol. . From your other thread ,I assume that you got representation , but that the standard of the representation was insufficient for the magistrates to find you not guilty. crown court. Representation was very poor. I really messed up going duty solicitor and barrister. But hey another mistake. Doh no you messed up with your driving. You really don;t seem to see that O I do. But it was careless driving at worst. Exactly. You don't see it. You;ve repeatedly said what a good driver you are. The police, the CPS and a judge don;t agree for 3 mins of a 22 year driving career lol. " It only takes 3 seconds to kill someone . | |||
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"I should have said i felt scared and intimidated when 3rd party got out with base ball bat style steering lock and hit car with it. But being honest i said no. Doh mistake. When you chased the car , did it not occur to you that the driver of the vehicle who hit you and failed to stop might not be the friendiest of people and would be unlikely to react well when subsequently boxed in by yourself . Assuming your facts are correct it would appear that the accident was not your fault and has cost your dearly . However your other thread on not receiving the costs bill and not being aware of them does throw some doubt on the matter . If as you say your record is spotless , I hope that you get your licence back shortly. I would just borrow an instructors car as advanced drivers need to be familiar with all modern technology . Good luck in the test and just leave the insurers or police to chase the culprits next time ." thank you kindly its a shame i cant post photos and videos to back it all.  | |||
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"just google it init one day insurance cover my insurance covers me to drive any cat 3rd party with owners consent Are you absolutely sure your cover includes DOC? It used to be pretty standard but was changed fairly recently, and now it's less common. You should double check just in case before risking it. what a lot say now is car must have its own insurance. That combined with stay insured stops people driving cars they cant afford to insure. I had a 1.1 fiesta but drove a japaness supercar. "The Driving Other Car benefit only covers you for Third Party damage. So, if you're driving a £100K supercar using the DOC cover on your own insurance and get involved in an accident that is your fault your insurance company will be paying out fuck all for the supercar, just for whatever damage you may have caused to a third party. Anyone letting someone else use their car on DOC is a fool. Unless said car is a bag of shit and worth nowt. | |||
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"just google it init one day insurance cover my insurance covers me to drive any cat 3rd party with owners consent Are you absolutely sure your cover includes DOC? It used to be pretty standard but was changed fairly recently, and now it's less common. You should double check just in case before risking it. what a lot say now is car must have its own insurance. That combined with stay insured stops people driving cars they cant afford to insure. I had a 1.1 fiesta but drove a japaness supercar.
The Driving Other Car benefit only covers you for Third Party damage. So, if you're driving a £100K supercar using the DOC cover on your own insurance and get involved in an accident that is your fault your insurance company will be paying out fuck all for the supercar, just for whatever damage you may have caused to a third party.
Anyone letting someone else use their car on DOC is a fool. Unless said car is a bag of shit and worth nowt."id paid for so was only my loss but someone else registered owner. That why they closed the loop hole. Because insures wouldnt take away drive other vehicles across the board. Police never liked it when stopped but couldnt do anything as had policy on me. | |||
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"just google it init one day insurance cover my insurance covers me to drive any cat 3rd party with owners consent Are you absolutely sure your cover includes DOC? It used to be pretty standard but was changed fairly recently, and now it's less common. You should double check just in case before risking it. what a lot say now is car must have its own insurance. That combined with stay insured stops people driving cars they cant afford to insure. I had a 1.1 fiesta but drove a japaness supercar.
The Driving Other Car benefit only covers you for Third Party damage. So, if you're driving a £100K supercar using the DOC cover on your own insurance and get involved in an accident that is your fault your insurance company will be paying out fuck all for the supercar, just for whatever damage you may have caused to a third party.
Anyone letting someone else use their car on DOC is a fool. Unless said car is a bag of shit and worth nowt. id paid for so was only my loss but someone else registered owner. That why they closed the loop hole. Because insures wouldnt take away drive other vehicles across the board. Police never liked it when stopped but couldnt do anything as had policy on me."I can't decipher what you've just written but I was just clarifying what the DOC actually is, not referring to your circumstances. However, as you've responded to my post I shall say that I think you should stop moaning about your plight and take ownership for your own actions, and stop bellyaching about the consequences. "Red mist" or not, no-one forced you to do what you did. | |||
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"Got to take an extended driving test as its due to a ban and im 40 soon it seems to be prooving an big issue. Anyone know a company by anychance. I found a monthly one. But would be cheapee to hirer an instructors car. Cheers only need insurance for 2hrs doh. " i only helly acked cause people asked my original post was simple  | |||
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"This is supposed to be about if anyone knows a insurance company lmfao. It is quite normal for threads to drift off topic. yep nosey opinonated people lol Well, in this case just interested people. Especially when the OP invites opinion by trying to use a ROPSA qualification to show that he is a good driver; Somehow to me it seems a ban shows how good s driver he is: My opinion; but then I am opinionated." I agree with you ! | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned yes i guess should have got decent representation. Would have saved all this lol. . From your other thread ,I assume that you got representation , but that the standard of the representation was insufficient for the magistrates to find you not guilty. crown court. Representation was very poor. I really messed up going duty solicitor and barrister. But hey another mistake. Doh no you messed up with your driving. You really don;t seem to see that" | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned yes i guess should have got decent representation. Would have saved all this lol. . From your other thread ,I assume that you got representation , but that the standard of the representation was insufficient for the magistrates to find you not guilty. crown court. Representation was very poor. I really messed up going duty solicitor and barrister. But hey another mistake. Doh no you messed up with your driving. You really don;t seem to see that O I do. But it was careless driving at worst. " You can still get banned and told to re sit your test when convicted of careless driving. | |||
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"So I am curious to know ...why did they ban you , dangerous driving? Road rage? says in thread. Wash ceashe into and run off road by a third party who then sped off so i chased them and stopped them. Chase was a bit dangerous according to police cps and court. Judge gave min sentence and min costs no fine. Yes I know you said you chased someone but I was confused as to how that got you to a ban as I would assume you must have been driving dangerous to get it. After re reading the thread you did say the word dangerous , although it wasn't in a sentance so I missed the meaning, but thanks for answering. I suppose it was a "little" too dangerous or you wouldnt have been banned yes i guess should have got decent representation. Would have saved all this lol. . From your other thread ,I assume that you got representation , but that the standard of the representation was insufficient for the magistrates to find you not guilty. crown court. Representation was very poor. I really messed up going duty solicitor and barrister. But hey another mistake. Doh no you messed up with your driving. You really don;t seem to see that O I do. But it was careless driving at worst. You can still get banned and told to re sit your test when convicted of careless driving." true but id rather have a true charge. And careless you dont have to be banned so with mitigating cirtcumstances. Which i didnt bother to use as would have made no difference. | |||
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"Dangerous Driving is a really serious charge. It actually carries a really heavy burden of proof. The CPS much more usually go for the charge of Careless Driving because it's not so difficult to prove. To proceed with a charge of Dangerous Driving it must have been a fairly clear cut case and they must have had a lot of evidence. It's possible to kill another driver by pulling across their carriageway right in front of them and only be charged with Careless Driving, because the CPS don't think they can prove the criteria required for Dangerous Driving. The criteria are stringent and they must prove a standard of driving far below that of a competent road user. For them to go for Dangerous over Careless it must have been dangerous indeed." like i said crap defence as i thought it was free and didnt know the fall consiquences of not paying for specialists. My solicitor didnt even tell me get my lap top back from police. Which i found out after they had no right to retain so long. Had I had my PC they would have not been able to take me to crown court. Would have hone magistrates. Where i would have got a fare trail with mitagating circumstance. My bad i lost it. Didnt let the scum get off at time. I didnt know the system. My lawyer was shit. End result im living with it. Learnt from it and just trying to sort out a short term insurance policy to use my mums car for extended driving test. I was in full control off car cause no harm. Np damage to anyone or anything. Realistically it was two minor offences and speeding and delaying other motorists. | |||
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"like i said crap defence as i thought it was free and didnt know the fall consiquences of not paying for specialists. " That would have had no bearing on what you were charged with. The CPS are wary of going for Dangerous Driving because it's so difficult for them to prove. They must have felt they had a very strong case to try it. They wouldn't have known when deciding which charge to bring, what sort of defence lawyer you'd have. They considered it a clear cut case of being more than a one-off lapse of judgement by an otherwise competent driver or they'd have charged you with Careless Driving not Dangerous Driving. The requirements to prove Dangerous Driving, as I said, are far more stringent than for Careless Driving. The CPS obviously thought they had enough to prove the more serious charge. | |||
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"". I was in full control off car cause no harm." No you weren't . You have already said you had " red mist" and that you lose control of yourself: so you were not in control of the car either. " i didnt crash and was close calls with offender and bollards and lots of things to judge. So yes i was in my opinio. That will never change. | |||
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"like i said crap defence as i thought it was free and didnt know the fall consiquences of not paying for specialists. That would have had no bearing on what you were charged with. The CPS are wary of going for Dangerous Driving because it's so difficult for them to prove. They must have felt they had a very strong case to try it. They wouldn't have known when deciding which charge to bring, what sort of defence lawyer you'd have. They considered it a clear cut case of being more than a one-off lapse of judgement by an otherwise competent driver or they'd have charged you with Careless Driving not Dangerous Driving. The requirements to prove Dangerous Driving, as I said, are far more stringent than for Careless Driving. The CPS obviously thought they had enough to prove the more serious charge." there you go they new my defence lawyers where crap anyone whos seen suituatiom doesnt really understand it either. My solitor said plead not guilty but barrister said just plead guilty. For family sake i agread. | |||
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"like i said crap defence as i thought it was free and didnt know the fall consiquences of not paying for specialists. That would have had no bearing on what you were charged with. The CPS are wary of going for Dangerous Driving because it's so difficult for them to prove. They must have felt they had a very strong case to try it. They wouldn't have known when deciding which charge to bring, what sort of defence lawyer you'd have. They considered it a clear cut case of being more than a one-off lapse of judgement by an otherwise competent driver or they'd have charged you with Careless Driving not Dangerous Driving. The requirements to prove Dangerous Driving, as I said, are far more stringent than for Careless Driving. The CPS obviously thought they had enough to prove the more serious charge. there you go they new my defence lawyers where crap anyone whos seen suituatiom doesnt really understand it either. My solitor said plead not guilty but barrister said just plead guilty. For family sake i agread. " You had defence lawyers before you were even charged?
Regardless, you could have changed solicitor/barrister at any time. The CPS did not decide on the charge they brought based on your defence lawyers.
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"Wouldn't it be cheaper to use a driving instructor anyway? Just give a couple a ring and ask..." its £70 so at the moment yes. But i dont like new cars. Give me a speedoe and legal car job done. No gadgets. | |||
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"Your opinion doesn't really matter. The decision was made in court. That's the one that counts." dont care to be honest the truth is the truth many people get found guilty or not guilty wrongly. 5 years from date when I get licence back it will all be history just No no claims bonus. | |||
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"like i said crap defence as i thought it was free and didnt know the fall consiquences of not paying for specialists. That would have had no bearing on what you were charged with. The CPS are wary of going for Dangerous Driving because it's so difficult for them to prove. They must have felt they had a very strong case to try it. They wouldn't have known when deciding which charge to bring, what sort of defence lawyer you'd have. They considered it a clear cut case of being more than a one-off lapse of judgement by an otherwise competent driver or they'd have charged you with Careless Driving not Dangerous Driving. The requirements to prove Dangerous Driving, as I said, are far more stringent than for Careless Driving. The CPS obviously thought they had enough to prove the more serious charge.there you go they new my defence lawyers where crap anyone whos seen suituatiom doesnt really understand it either. My solitor said plead not guilty but barrister said just plead guilty. For family sake i agread. " Why plead not guilty when by your own admission on here you were guilty | |||
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"like i said crap defence as i thought it was free and didnt know the fall consiquences of not paying for specialists. That would have had no bearing on what you were charged with. The CPS are wary of going for Dangerous Driving because it's so difficult for them to prove. They must have felt they had a very strong case to try it. They wouldn't have known when deciding which charge to bring, what sort of defence lawyer you'd have. They considered it a clear cut case of being more than a one-off lapse of judgement by an otherwise competent driver or they'd have charged you with Careless Driving not Dangerous Driving. The requirements to prove Dangerous Driving, as I said, are far more stringent than for Careless Driving. The CPS obviously thought they had enough to prove the more serious charge.there you go they new my defence lawyers where crap anyone whos seen suituatiom doesnt really understand it either. My solitor said plead not guilty but barrister said just plead guilty. For family sake i agread. Why plead not guilty when by your own admission on here you were guilty" i wasnt guilty off said charge. As said careless yes. Npt dangerous | |||
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" i wasnt guilty off said charge. As said careless yes. Npt dangerous" No : you seem to have a basic misunderstanding of the law: you were guilty of " said charge"; because a court found you guilty . Simple . | |||
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" i wasnt guilty off said charge. As said careless yes. Npt dangerous No : you seem to have a basic misunderstanding of the law: you were guilty of " said charge"; because a court found you guilty . Simple . " i know what i was guilty off. Dont you think lol. Yes they found me guilty doesnt make it true. As before people get done and not done for correct charges every day or are you blind to this. Ive seen a cold blooded murder walk free court despite a witness seeing it happen. Rapist often walk free. the system isnt flaw less is it. | |||
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" i wasnt guilty off said charge. As said careless yes. Npt dangerous No : you seem to have a basic misunderstanding of the law: you were guilty of " said charge"; because a court found you guilty . Simple . i know what i was guilty off. Dont you think lol. Yes they found me guilty doesnt make it true. As before people get done and not done for correct charges every day or are you blind to this. Ive seen a cold blooded murder walk free court despite a witness seeing it happen. Rapist often walk free. the system isnt flaw less is it. "Our criminal law system is by no means flawless. You did, however, confess to a "red mist" moment (which you regret) and chasing another motorist, which may (and I say may) have endangered others. You have said that you don't really wish to drive on public roads again for the time being, for which you should be given credit. You do seem to have an issue accepting that what you did was wrong. G | |||
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"like i said crap defence as i thought it was free and didnt know the fall consiquences of not paying for specialists. That would have had no bearing on what you were charged with. The CPS are wary of going for Dangerous Driving because it's so difficult for them to prove. They must have felt they had a very strong case to try it. They wouldn't have known when deciding which charge to bring, what sort of defence lawyer you'd have. They considered it a clear cut case of being more than a one-off lapse of judgement by an otherwise competent driver or they'd have charged you with Careless Driving not Dangerous Driving. The requirements to prove Dangerous Driving, as I said, are far more stringent than for Careless Driving. The CPS obviously thought they had enough to prove the more serious charge.there you go they new my defence lawyers where crap anyone whos seen suituatiom doesnt really understand it either. My solitor said plead not guilty but barrister said just plead guilty. For family sake i agread. " That's rubbish to suggest CPS somehow knew who your solicitors were and that's why they charged you. It is impossible for them to know simply because you can change them at any time | |||
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"like i said crap defence as i thought it was free and didnt know the fall consiquences of not paying for specialists. That would have had no bearing on what you were charged with. The CPS are wary of going for Dangerous Driving because it's so difficult for them to prove. They must have felt they had a very strong case to try it. They wouldn't have known when deciding which charge to bring, what sort of defence lawyer you'd have. They considered it a clear cut case of being more than a one-off lapse of judgement by an otherwise competent driver or they'd have charged you with Careless Driving not Dangerous Driving. The requirements to prove Dangerous Driving, as I said, are far more stringent than for Careless Driving. The CPS obviously thought they had enough to prove the more serious charge.there you go they new my defence lawyers where crap anyone whos seen suituatiom doesnt really understand it either. My solitor said plead not guilty but barrister said just plead guilty. For family sake i agread. That's rubbish to suggest CPS somehow knew who your solicitors were and that's why they charged you. It is impossible for them to know simply because you can change them at any time" only going by what someone else said on here. No reason to dought them | |||
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"like i said crap defence as i thought it was free and didnt know the fall consiquences of not paying for specialists. That would have had no bearing on what you were charged with. The CPS are wary of going for Dangerous Driving because it's so difficult for them to prove. They must have felt they had a very strong case to try it. They wouldn't have known when deciding which charge to bring, what sort of defence lawyer you'd have. They considered it a clear cut case of being more than a one-off lapse of judgement by an otherwise competent driver or they'd have charged you with Careless Driving not Dangerous Driving. The requirements to prove Dangerous Driving, as I said, are far more stringent than for Careless Driving. The CPS obviously thought they had enough to prove the more serious charge.there you go they new my defence lawyers where crap anyone whos seen suituatiom doesnt really understand it either. My solitor said plead not guilty but barrister said just plead guilty. For family sake i agread. That's rubbish to suggest CPS somehow knew who your solicitors were and that's why they charged you. It is impossible for them to know simply because you can change them at any time only going by what someone else said on here. No reason to dought them" You could you have changed your solicitor at anytime, probably even on the day of your court appearance. So how would that influence a CPS decision made weeks and more likely months beforehand? | |||
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"Also let;s be clear your 'crap defence' is not why you were charged. It had no bearing on the charges the police presented to CPS. It had no bearing on the CPS decision to go with those charges. AS someone else has said, the bar for dangerous driving is very high and CPS will go with the lesser charge pf careless driving as securing a conviction is far more likely. Your choice of defence is irrelevant." there was no defence. If id employed people i would have had a defence because they hopefully would have told and helped me get my laptop back. Like mine should off done as police had no grounds to keep it. Simples really. Lesson here is pay for pros services in crown court. My friend just been lumbard with a £40,000 bill after winning a case in magistrates it then went crown where third party then won saying magistrares fooked up. So 3rd party appeal was granted and won. His now gotta pay the lot. Luckily i stepped down helping him incase i jepodised the case. | |||
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"Wouldn't it be cheaper to use a driving instructor anyway? Just give a couple a ring and ask... its £70 so at the moment yes. But i dont like new cars. Give me a speedoe and legal car job done. No gadgets. "Well a driver of your ability should be able adjust to the modern gadgets? It`s only for a couple of hours at the most! | |||
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"Also let;s be clear your 'crap defence' is not why you were charged. It had no bearing on the charges the police presented to CPS. It had no bearing on the CPS decision to go with those charges. AS someone else has said, the bar for dangerous driving is very high and CPS will go with the lesser charge pf careless driving as securing a conviction is far more likely. Your choice of defence is irrelevant. there was no defence. If id employed people i would have had a defence because they hopefully would have told and helped me get my laptop back. Like mine should off done as police had no grounds to keep it. " What difference does having your lapptop have to your defense in a charge of dangerous driving. Surely your defense was that 'you weren;t driving dangerously' or offering mitogating circumstances based on the circumstances. Your laptop is immaterial to that. Or would your laptop have helped you find a legal loophole? If so it speaks volumes that that is your chosen route rather than defending your driving | |||
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"Also let;s be clear your 'crap defence' is not why you were charged. It had no bearing on the charges the police presented to CPS. It had no bearing on the CPS decision to go with those charges. AS someone else has said, the bar for dangerous driving is very high and CPS will go with the lesser charge pf careless driving as securing a conviction is far more likely. Your choice of defence is irrelevant. there was no defence. If id employed people i would have had a defence because they hopefully would have told and helped me get my laptop back. Like mine should off done as police had no grounds to keep it. Simples really. Lesson here is pay for pros services in crown court. My friend just been lumbard with a £40,000 bill after winning a case in magistrates it then went crown where third party then won saying magistrares fooked up. So 3rd party appeal was granted and won. His now gotta pay the lot. Luckily i stepped down helping him incase i jepodised the case. " . Are you referring to a forty thousand pound legal bill for solicitors costs . | |||
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"Also let;s be clear your 'crap defence' is not why you were charged. It had no bearing on the charges the police presented to CPS. It had no bearing on the CPS decision to go with those charges. AS someone else has said, the bar for dangerous driving is very high and CPS will go with the lesser charge pf careless driving as securing a conviction is far more likely. Your choice of defence is irrelevant. there was no defence. If id employed people i would have had a defence because they hopefully would have told and helped me get my laptop back. Like mine should off done as police had no grounds to keep it. Simples really. Lesson here is pay for pros services in crown court. My friend just been lumbard with a £40,000 bill after winning a case in magistrates it then went crown where third party then won saying magistrares fooked up. So 3rd party appeal was granted and won. His now gotta pay the lot. Luckily i stepped down helping him incase i jepodised the case. . Are you referring to a forty thousand pound legal bill for solicitors costs ." i shore am that 3rd party and courts. so glad i pulled out off that 20k bill outer my price range. Bmp where paying his costs for solicitor ect. But full liability landed on him | |||
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"Also let;s be clear your 'crap defence' is not why you were charged. It had no bearing on the charges the police presented to CPS. It had no bearing on the CPS decision to go with those charges. AS someone else has said, the bar for dangerous driving is very high and CPS will go with the lesser charge pf careless driving as securing a conviction is far more likely. Your choice of defence is irrelevant. there was no defence. If id employed people i would have had a defence because they hopefully would have told and helped me get my laptop back. Like mine should off done as police had no grounds to keep it. What difference does having your lapptop have to your defense in a charge of dangerous driving. Surely your defense was that 'you weren;t driving dangerously' or offering mitogating circumstances based on the circumstances. Your laptop is immaterial to that. Or would your laptop have helped you find a legal loophole? If so it speaks volumes that that is your chosen route rather than defending your driving " video evidence from my car matched my statements and witnesses statements could have blown 3rd parties statement out the water as it was not real. | |||
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"It doesn't sound as though you're ready to get your licence back. You haven't accepted what you did and are full of excuses. I'm very glad you've decided not to drive. It's the first sensible thing you've said." what i did was wrong never said it wasnt jyst disagree with with dd lol. I also know i cant garrenty it wont happen again. But in todays society no piece off card with no photo. Not much one can do. Even police threatened to arrest me a ciuple off months back because i had no ID. Thankfully I fitted the description they had on file. Summonds me for 2 offences. Despite me telling him the laws and that he was wrong. Then called me hrs later opologsing and canceling summonds as he was wrong i was right. Least he did call himself. Still lost me an hrs pay though. | |||
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"It doesn't sound as though you're ready to get your licence back. You haven't accepted what you did and are full of excuses. I'm very glad you've decided not to drive. It's the first sensible thing you've said.what i did was wrong never said it wasnt jyst disagree with with dd lol. I also know i cant garrenty it wont happen again. But in todays society no piece off card with no photo. Not much one can do. Even police threatened to arrest me a ciuple off months back because i had no ID. . " A passport would be safer | |||
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"It doesn't sound as though you're ready to get your licence back. You haven't accepted what you did and are full of excuses. I'm very glad you've decided not to drive. It's the first sensible thing you've said.what i did was wrong never said it wasnt jyst disagree with with dd lol. I also know i cant garrenty it wont happen again. But in todays society no piece off card with no photo. Not much one can do. Even police threatened to arrest me a ciuple off months back because i had no ID. . A passport would be safer "no where near as usefull only good as ID nothing else and costs more in long run. | |||
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