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"Repaint them, protect occupants better or invest time and energy in apprehending those who target the occupants(asylum seekers)" Is there only asylum seekers with red doors in middlesborough? | |||
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"Red doors ?????? " BBC website, story on how asylum seekers feeling as if they a have been made a target because their fronts doors have been painted red  | |||
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"???" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-35358925 | |||
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"Repaint them, protect occupants better or invest time and energy in apprehending those who target the occupants(asylum seekers) Is there only asylum seekers with red doors in middlesborough?" no | |||
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"God help the landlord if they paint the doors black. "I like pink | |||
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I have a Red room (way before 50 shades) | |||
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"send them back "Think after living a few months in Middlesbrough they might want to go back. | |||
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"Fuck Middlesbrough fc are buggered their doors are red too. Jeez this is a pathetic story it really is. It doesn't matter what colour the doors are. If the company that owns the 168 houses paid the doors they are hardly going to buy a different colour paint for each door. Not to mention it'll make it even easier to spot the houses as they'll be the one where a guy turns up to paint a red door. "  | |||
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"send them back
Think after living a few months in Middlesbrough they might want to go back." | |||
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"send them back
Think after living a few months in Middlesbrough they might want to go back.
"thought middlesborugh was a nice town ? | |||
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"Send them all back fed up of them " to the door manufacturers..? bit unfair.. | |||
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"God help the landlord if they paint the doors black. "No 10? | |||
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"God help the landlord if they paint the doors black.
No 10?"If they were so bothered about it why didn't they paint their own fucking doors? | |||
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"God help the landlord if they paint the doors black.
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If they were so bothered about it why didn't they paint their own fucking doors?"Ask them; hope you are fluent in Syrian | |||
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"God help the landlord if they paint the doors black.
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If they were so bothered about it why didn't they paint their own fucking doors?
Ask them; hope you are fluent in Syrian"dont they speak arabic lol | |||
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"God help the landlord if they paint the doors black.
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If they were so bothered about it why didn't they paint their own fucking doors?
Ask them; hope you are fluent in Syriandont they speak arabic lol"Lord knows what gibberish they speak in. I know it is not English | |||
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"God help the landlord if they paint the doors black.
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If they were so bothered about it why didn't they paint their own fucking doors?
Ask them; hope you are fluent in Syriandont they speak arabic lol"Ha ha I tried it but it came out as ????????????????????????????????????????????????? How about this: Wenn Sie also darüber gestört sind, warum nicht Sie eigene Tür malen | |||
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"Red doors ?????? BBC website, story on how asylum seekers feeling as if they a have been made a target because their fronts doors have been painted red "So repaint them  | |||
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"Red doors ?????? BBC website, story on how asylum seekers feeling as if they a have been made a target because their fronts doors have been painted red "Shit...My door is red! B&Q here I come! Other diy stores are available | |||
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"God help the landlord if they paint the doors black.
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If they were so bothered about it why didn't they paint their own fucking doors?
Ask them; hope you are fluent in Syriandont they speak arabic lol
Ha ha I tried it but it came as ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Wenn Sie also darüber gestört sind, warum nicht Sie eigene Tür malen"Ich glaube nicht dass deren Deutsch besser als ihr English ist Wissen die ueberhaupt was eine Tuer ist? | |||
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"I'm now being taunted by a Green-Door Earworm....and it's not fun Shakin' Stevens be gone from my head you swivel hipped relic of my youth.... "I see a red door and I want to paint it black! | |||
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"God help the landlord if they paint the doors black.
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If they were so bothered about it why didn't they paint their own fucking doors?
Ask them; hope you are fluent in Syriandont they speak arabic lol
Ha ha I tried it but it came as ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
How about this:
Wenn Sie also darüber gestört sind, warum nicht Sie eigene Tür malen
Ich glaube nicht dass deren Deutsch besser als ihr English ist
Wissen die ueberhaupt was eine Tuer ist?"Ich weiß nicht, tut mir leid | |||
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"Are there free houses behind these 'horrendous' red doors? Whatever colour the door, it's got to be better than the bombed out shithole they came from." True, but it seems a free house, free new clothes, and free money to live on each week is not good enough, got to paint the doors a different colour now.
Hope they don't paint them green because then they'll probably complain about a 70's porn film called "Behind the green door" (what will the neighbours think?) | |||
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"Repaint them, protect occupants better or invest time and energy in apprehending those who target the occupants(asylum seekers)" Because a housing company is now expected to be the police in your world? Its not an either or choice | |||
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If they were so bothered about it why didn't they paint their own fucking doors?"Because they're not thier doors? It seems at some point the housing company either got a bulk orde rof paint when it decorated its houses or it used red to easily identify its own houses. Now its got the contract for asylym seekers, this distinguishing factor has lead to people being easily able to target them. The housing company is now repainting its doors to a mix of colours to prevent this happening again and the police are investigating the incidents | |||
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"Repaint them, protect occupants better or invest time and energy in apprehending those who target the occupants(asylum seekers)" I have to say it all sounds a bit like claptrap to me... Red door, blue door, green door makes no difference. The truth is a company which owns/manages 200 and odd properties had 60 odd doors painted red (probably because it was the cheapest paint they could get to do the job). Now they will get a contractor in to repaint them another colour but the locals will still know which houses the asylum seekers are in so nothing will change. | |||
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"Couldn't possibly be because they bought in bulk and got a discount? And maybe there isn't a conspiracy "Have to say that was my initial thought. It occurred to me it was probably a "corporate" colour bought in bulk. My second thought: ungrateful bastards! | |||
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"I know of English born and bred people who have paid taxes all their lives and due to misfortune found themselves living on the streets ...they would welcome a roof over their heads regardless of what colour the front door was " This was my third thought. | |||
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"What if they were just harmless Middlesborough fans?" Lol I'm from Middlesbrough lol I don't really give a shit about football but to be honest I'm sick about hearing Red doors in ITV News so glad I don't live in the town lol I live 3 miles out of it
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"It's funny. My first thought was how horrible it is that fellow human beings are being targeted just because of the colour of their skin or where they come from. " Always remember this country is a democracy and anyone with a red door can leave whenever they want. | |||
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"It's funny. My first thought was how horrible it is that fellow human beings are being targeted just because of the colour of their skin or where they come from. " It's not the colour of their skin that's the problem, It's the colour of their doors. | |||
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Love them threads as well lovely people in the forums lol
By the way I'm a Muslim and I have thick skin and I'm not offended easily but then again I've fucked plenty of white men so they all can't be racists if they are happy to fuck me lol | |||
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"I love the fucking forums all the racists and bigots actually come out to play. Let's not forget Muslims are terrorists
Love them threads as well lovely people in the forums lol
By the way I'm a Muslim and I have thick skin and I'm not offended easily but then again I've fucked plenty of white men so they all can't be racists if they are happy to fuck me lol "Its about red doors for fuck sake | |||
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"I love the fucking forums all the racists and bigots actually come out to play. Let's not forget Muslims are terrorists
Love them threads as well lovely people in the forums lol
By the way I'm a Muslim and I have thick skin and I'm not offended easily but then again I've fucked plenty of white men so they all can't be racists if they are happy to fuck me lol
Its about red doors for fuck sake"I fucking know I live in boro just stating the facts there are racists and Islam phobia ok all you muppets seem to watch main stream media lmfao  | |||
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"I love the fucking forums all the racists and bigots actually come out to play. Let's not forget Muslims are terrorists
Love them threads as well lovely people in the forums lol
By the way I'm a Muslim and I have thick skin and I'm not offended easily but then again I've fucked plenty of white men so they all can't be racists if they are happy to fuck me lol
Its about red doors for fuck sake
I fucking know I live in boro just stating the facts there are racists and Islam phobia ok all you muppets seem to watch main stream media lmfao "Well i am cut to the quick, muppet damn you | |||
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"Most new doors fitted by councils or housing associations are pvc ,,, good luck painting those fuckers" Lots of others are also composite doors (pas 24) if they are also fitted with the right locks. Very expensive and surprise surprise come in red and are very expensive. | |||
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"I'm now being taunted by a Green-Door Earworm....and it's not fun Shakin' Stevens be gone from my head you swivel hipped relic of my youth....
I see a red door and I want to paint it black!"Oo'er..... thank-you .... That's a much more acceptable earworm.. In-fact I'm so pleased with it, I might just hang-on to this one.... | |||
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"Are we not all missing the point? Or rather are we missing it deliberately? It's not about the colour of door per se. The doors might as well be green, bronze, yellow, camouflage,black or white. The fact is human beings who have been graciously ( no free lunch) offered shelter and solace are now being persecuted incessantly. I guess some may argue that hate comments and a general feeling of being unwanted are far less of evils compared to actual warfare involving guns and bombs and mortars. For heaven sake, no sane person rescued from a war torn land would care too much about a door colour. It runs far deeper than that. "Having read the posts, tend to agree. Actually surprised as to what I have read. | |||
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"I'm now being taunted by a Green-Door Earworm....and it's not fun Shakin' Stevens be gone from my head you swivel hipped relic of my youth....
I see a red door and I want to paint it black!"No colours anymore, I want them to turn black | |||
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"Are we not all missing the point? Or rather are we missing it deliberately? It's not about the colour of door per se. The doors might as well be green, bronze, yellow, camouflage,black or white. The fact is human beings who have been graciously ( no free lunch) offered shelter and solace are now being persecuted incessantly. I guess some may argue that hate comments and a general feeling of being unwanted are far less of evils compared to actual warfare involving guns and bombs and mortars. For heaven sake, no sane person rescued from a war torn land would care too much about a door colour. It runs far deeper than that. " | |||
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Think after living a few months in Middlesbrough they might want to go back."thats why they housed them there | |||
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"Are we not all missing the point? Or rather are we missing it deliberately? It's not about the colour of door per se. The doors might as well be green, bronze, yellow, camouflage,black or white. The fact is human beings who have been graciously ( no free lunch) offered shelter and solace are now being persecuted incessantly. I guess some may argue that hate comments and a general feeling of being unwanted are far less of evils compared to actual warfare involving guns and bombs and mortars. For heaven sake, no sane person rescued from a war torn land would care too much about a door colour. It runs far deeper than that. "it'd be interesting to know who was doing the crime? It might be a group of Muslim kids thinking its a bit of a laugh. As usual there is 2 sides to every story. | |||
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"Are we not all missing the point? Or rather are we missing it deliberately? It's not about the colour of door per se. The doors might as well be green, bronze, yellow, camouflage,black or white. The fact is human beings who have been graciously ( no free lunch) offered shelter and solace are now being persecuted incessantly. I guess some may argue that hate comments and a general feeling of being unwanted are far less of evils compared to actual warfare involving guns and bombs and mortars. For heaven sake, no sane person rescued from a war torn land would care too much about a door colour. It runs far deeper than that.
it'd be interesting to know who was doing the crime? It might be a group of Muslim kids thinking its a bit of a laugh. As usual there is 2 sides to every story. "true but i can't see that people who probably don't know each other from different countries of origin etc would have an organised plan to have their doors painted a different colour and to achieve this by daubing paint, carving 'NF' on doors and in some cases deliberate fire setting.. | |||
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"Are there free houses behind these 'horrendous' red doors? Whatever colour the door, it's got to be better than the bombed out shithole they came from." well said | |||
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"Are we not all missing the point? Or rather are we missing it deliberately? It's not about the colour of door per se. The doors might as well be green, bronze, yellow, camouflage,black or white. The fact is human beings who have been graciously ( no free lunch) offered shelter and solace are now being persecuted incessantly. I guess some may argue that hate comments and a general feeling of being unwanted are far less of evils compared to actual warfare involving guns and bombs and mortars. For heaven sake, no sane person rescued from a war torn land would care too much about a door colour. It runs far deeper than that.
it'd be interesting to know who was doing the crime? It might be a group of Muslim kids thinking its a bit of a laugh. As usual there is 2 sides to every story.
true but i can't see that people who probably don't know each other from different countries of origin etc would have an organised plan to have their doors painted a different colour and to achieve this by daubing paint, carving 'NF' on doors and in some cases deliberate fire setting..
"I didn't suggest this at all! I'm saying we don't know who is doing this to them, more than likely kids. I know kids used to do shot like this around my area years ago. Besides changing the colour of the door will not make a difference people know who live there. | |||
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"It's funny. My first thought was how horrible it is that fellow human beings are being targeted just because of the colour of their skin or where they come from. Always remember this country is a democracy and anyone with a red door can leave whenever they want." Democracy does not mean what you think it means. | |||
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"I love the fucking forums all the racists and bigots actually come out to play. Let's not forget Muslims are terrorists
Love them threads as well lovely people in the forums lol
By the way I'm a Muslim and I have thick skin and I'm not offended easily but then again I've fucked plenty of white men so they all can't be racists if they are happy to fuck me lol
Its about red doors for fuck sake
I fucking know I live in boro just stating the facts there are racists and Islam phobia ok all you muppets seem to watch main stream media lmfao "You dont...you live 3 mile out of Boro as you have said, your a Muslim,its Muslims being targeted,we would have thought that you yourself would feel strongly,windows being put through etc because the occupants are not British,its been news for all of 1 day so how can you be sick of it and what does opening your legs for white men have to do with anything? | |||
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"send them back "What as in Peter Kay...I said I wanted white ones - instead they sent me red? | |||
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"Send them all back fed up of them " What the doors ? | |||
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"Some people are just never happy they come from Syria want a house furniture money health care schools free then kick off when some one knocks on the door and runs off this happens everywhere not just in Middlesborough can't please some people" Would you be pleased for kids to smear shit on your door, whatever colour it is, or paint an NF symbol or throw eggs at your windows? After all it's just a bit of fun. | |||
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"Some people are just never happy they come from Syria want a house furniture money health care schools free then kick off when some one knocks on the door and runs off this happens everywhere not just in Middlesborough can't please some people" Windows smashed NF slogans wrote, hardly the same as chap door run | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok " Well said | |||
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"I love the fucking forums all the racists and bigots actually come out to play. Let's not forget Muslims are terrorists
Love them threads as well lovely people in the forums lol
By the way I'm a Muslim and I have thick skin and I'm not offended easily but then again I've fucked plenty of white men so they all can't be racists if they are happy to fuck me lol "I'm black, born in a country that went begging to the colonies asking their former slaves to come and help rebuild the "motherland" following the war to be met with "no blacks" signs. The difference is my parents had a don't insult someone in their own home mentality as opposed to what appears to be a moan at everything with a sense of entitlement attitude. As a black person seeking to retire outside of London to be told by white friends I'll be vulnerable in a less ethnically diverse area I'm well aware of "well meaning" white people causing more harm than good with their good intentions. | |||
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"I love the fucking forums all the racists and bigots actually come out to play. Let's not forget Muslims are terrorists
Love them threads as well lovely people in the forums lol
By the way I'm a Muslim and I have thick skin and I'm not offended easily but then again I've fucked plenty of white men so they all can't be racists if they are happy to fuck me lol
I'm black, born in a country that went begging to the colonies asking their former slaves to come and help rebuild the "motherland" following the war to be met with "no blacks" signs.
The difference is my parents had a don't insult someone in their own home mentality as opposed to what appears to be a moan at everything with a sense of entitlement attitude.
As a black person seeking to retire outside of London to be told by white friends I'll be vulnerable in a less ethnically diverse area I'm well aware of "well meaning" white people causing more harm than good with their good intentions."Just a thought there was workhouses in this country where white people, white working class people were treat like shit so it was never a new thing that people were treat horrendously in this country. Some believe it or not are still alive today who witnessed these things. Being beaten, abused is not only the lot of non white people. | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok " Why not learn English yourself ? | |||
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"Bloody lucky they got a door,so stop moaning" Because houses in Chatham aren't lucky enough to have a door? | |||
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"Bloody lucky they got a door,so stop moaning Because houses in Chatham aren't lucky enough to have a door?" That`s only because the police kick them in on drug raids.Not because their to lazy to go an buy a tin of paint. | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Why not learn English yourself ?" | |||
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"... I'm black, born in a country that went begging to the colonies asking their former slaves to come and help rebuild the "motherland" following the war to be met with "no blacks" signs. The difference is my parents had a don't insult someone in their own home mentality as opposed to what appears to be a moan at everything with a sense of entitlement attitude...."
And that is why nobody thinks of Black people as Black. We all, Black and White, behave the same and have the same values and culture
Yes, yes, there may be slight differences but these are so small that such differences could exist between two White people too
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"... I'm black, born in a country that went begging to the colonies asking their former slaves to come and help rebuild the "motherland" following the war to be met with "no blacks" signs. The difference is my parents had a don't insult someone in their own home mentality as opposed to what appears to be a moan at everything with a sense of entitlement attitude....
And that is why nobody thinks of Black people as Black. We all, Black and White, behave the same and have the same values and culture
Yes, yes, there may be slight differences but these are so small that such differences could exist between two White people too
Never heard of a gang of 1000 Black people sexually assaulting 600 White women"That is deep. Now what can I say to that? | |||
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"Are we not all missing the point? Or rather are we missing it deliberately? It's not about the colour of door per se. The doors might as well be green, bronze, yellow, camouflage,black or white. The fact is human beings who have been graciously ( no free lunch) offered shelter and solace are now being persecuted incessantly. I guess some may argue that hate comments and a general feeling of being unwanted are far less of evils compared to actual warfare involving guns and bombs and mortars. For heaven sake, no sane person rescued from a war torn land would care too much about a door colour. It runs far deeper than that.
it'd be interesting to know who was doing the crime? It might be a group of Muslim kids thinking its a bit of a laugh. As usual there is 2 sides to every story.
true but i can't see that people who probably don't know each other from different countries of origin etc would have an organised plan to have their doors painted a different colour and to achieve this by daubing paint, carving 'NF' on doors and in some cases deliberate fire setting..
I didn't suggest this at all! I'm saying we don't know who is doing this to them, more than likely kids. I know kids used to do shot like this around my area years ago. Besides changing the colour of the door will not make a difference people know who live there. "No you didn't but your now saying kids in your area used to do similar, its not knock and run its carving NF in doors and some fire setting, on the fire setting yes we used to have that too and doors being egged if it was a grumpy keep the ball type but not the NF stuff.. doubt thats kids at all, either muslim or other.. | |||
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its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact | |||
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its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."Oi! I won't tell you again. I do the jokes around here. Thank you. | |||
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Not even going to quote a few really racist comments about Syria ns on here its really turning quiet personal
My thread got closed my mods didn't even comment after my first suggestions on how vile people hide behind keyboards then have the nerve to report me to get banned for 24 hrs off forums ffs | |||
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"I really can't be bothered with all the keyboard warriors on here lol
Not even going to quote a few really racist comments about Syria ns on here its really turning quiet personal
My thread got closed my mods didn't even comment after my first suggestions on how vile people hide behind keyboards then have the nerve to report me to get banned for 24 hrs off forums ffs"Any wrong move and I will cockslap you. Remember, I know where you buy your condoms from. | |||
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its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact"are you referring to myself? | |||
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its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?"Yes | |||
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its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
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its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
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maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?"You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact"well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that? you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are.. | |||
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its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are.. "I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise? | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?"the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to.. my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians.. the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race.. do you accept that hate crime is wrong? | |||
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"Middlesbrough my hometown I was born herethank you It's a shit hole but my parents live around corner as do my brothers and sister and nephews ok Red doors I don't really care I live 3 miles from the dump but it's my house my daughters home so fuck you I don't really care racist and Islamphobia is just the media way of turning all you uneducated morons who never done a days hard work or paid taxes and live in council houses all their lives. Can't read or write or even learn the easiest language in the world which is my first language. I can speak 3 by the way and I have to work with these scum that come to me for advise and state asylum seekers get free houses etc I don't judge them I can't because I work in non judgemental and confidential information but some people make my skin crawl lol Educate yourself and find a decent job this country doesn't owe you anything you Jeremy Kyle show morons... ........God I love me job actually I do get people out of debt etc love it but can't stand my clients on a daily basis feel like punching them in face most days but I hide it very well. I'm good at what I do been doing it for over ten years and my colleagues mainly white middle class university educated are the best if u didn't have them I would leave. "If this country is full of the above and you hate dealing with them so much then maybe go and join isis and move to Syria. Tell them about about you fucking lots of white guys...your words. Im sure there welcome you | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to.."You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.." What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever "my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians.. the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race.. do you accept that hate crime is wrong?" I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions Where does racism come into this? | |||
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"Red doors ?????? BBC website, story on how asylum seekers feeling as if they a have been made a target because their fronts doors have been painted red
So repaint them "The Times reported that asylum seekers at one house felt so stigmatised that they painted their door white, but it was repainted red after a Jomast employee visited and said it was “against company policy”. | |||
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"Hate crime is wrong whether the queen's husband( that naughty old man) hears of it or not. It is wrong. My thread sought to find out the best way to solve the problem: reprint doors, chase and punish the guilty, or police the vulnerable better. I am disappointed to say a huge majority of respondents chose to dwell on something else. "Might be the slant that you put on everything, you have to understand that non muslem, non black, non able bodied people etc get the shit end of the stick too. They have also worked hard in this country, struggle to get houses, furniture, benefits etc and see what they see from the media etc. Just the same as when programs about scroungers are on tv. Theres no winning. | |||
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"Hate crime is wrong whether the queen's husband( that naughty old man) hears of it or not. It is wrong. My thread sought to find out the best way to solve the problem: reprint doors, chase and punish the guilty, or police the vulnerable better. I am disappointed to say a huge majority of respondents chose to dwell on something else.
Might be the slant that you put on everything, you have to understand that non muslem, non black, non able bodied people etc get the shit end of the stick too. They have also worked hard in this country, struggle to get houses, furniture, benefits etc and see what they see from the media etc. Just the same as when programs about scroungers are on tv. Theres no winning."The slant YOU put on EVERYTHING ? Are you for real? Show me the said slant | |||
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"Middlesbrough my hometown I was born herethank you It's a shit hole but my parents live around corner as do my brothers and sister and nephews ok Red doors I don't really care I live 3 miles from the dump but it's my house my daughters home so fuck you I don't really care racist and Islamphobia is just the media way of turning all you uneducated morons who never done a days hard work or paid taxes and live in council houses all their lives. Can't read or write or even learn the easiest language in the world which is my first language. I can speak 3 by the way and I have to work with these scum that come to me for advise and state asylum seekers get free houses etc I don't judge them I can't because I work in non judgemental and confidential information but some people make my skin crawl lol Educate yourself and find a decent job this country doesn't owe you anything you Jeremy Kyle show morons... ........God I love me job actually I do get people out of debt etc love it but can't stand my clients on a daily basis feel like punching them in face most days but I hide it very well. I'm good at what I do been doing it for over ten years and my colleagues mainly white middle class university educated are the best if u didn't have them I would leave.
If this country is full of the above and you hate dealing with them so much then maybe go and join isis and move to Syria. Tell them about about you fucking lots of white guys...your words. Im sure there welcome you
I wouldn't join ISIS you brain dead moron I'm a non practising Muslim who swings ffs
You trying to be that uneducated morons from Jeremy Kyle show I have to deal with on a daily basis I rest my case ok
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"Hate crime is wrong whether the queen's husband( that naughty old man) hears of it or not. It is wrong. My thread sought to find out the best way to solve the problem: reprint doors, chase and punish the guilty, or police the vulnerable better. I am disappointed to say a huge majority of respondents chose to dwell on something else.
Might be the slant that you put on everything, you have to understand that non muslem, non black, non able bodied people etc get the shit end of the stick too. They have also worked hard in this country, struggle to get houses, furniture, benefits etc and see what they see from the media etc. Just the same as when programs about scroungers are on tv. Theres no winning.
The slant YOU put on EVERYTHING ?
Are you for real? Show me the said slant"Asylum seekers, no free meal ticket, only bad things happen to them, thats the slant i get along with implying only asylum (muslim) red doors get damaged or am i misguided? | |||
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"Middlesbrough my hometown I was born herethank you It's a shit hole but my parents live around corner as do my brothers and sister and nephews ok Red doors I don't really care I live 3 miles from the dump but it's my house my daughters home so fuck you I don't really care racist and Islamphobia is just the media way of turning all you uneducated morons who never done a days hard work or paid taxes and live in council houses all their lives. Can't read or write or even learn the easiest language in the world which is my first language. I can speak 3 by the way and I have to work with these scum that come to me for advise and state asylum seekers get free houses etc I don't judge them I can't because I work in non judgemental and confidential information but some people make my skin crawl lol Educate yourself and find a decent job this country doesn't owe you anything you Jeremy Kyle show morons... ........God I love me job actually I do get people out of debt etc love it but can't stand my clients on a daily basis feel like punching them in face most days but I hide it very well. I'm good at what I do been doing it for over ten years and my colleagues mainly white middle class university educated are the best if u didn't have them I would leave. "WoW! You are a real advert for all of us who see problems with Islam and its attitude to the rest of us. You see anyone who questions your religion as scum (your word). You see say being concerned with the attitudes displayed by Muslims as racist (by the way when did Islam change from being a religion to being a race?). But you describe the area that these 'red door' incidents are happening as being a dump. You describe people who come to you for advice (I take it it is your job to help them) as scum, what does that make you? I am afraid your diatribe only adds to the belief by people like me that I am now being made the object of hate by people like you who hide behind your religion and colour and then claim that I (and others who share my views) are the racists. Just to be clear, I never judge anyone by the colour of their skin or the faith they follow. I judge people by the way they act and what they support and defend. However I do not believe in 'positive discrimination'. Any type of discrimination is discrimination and should be opposed! | |||
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"I'm surprised that none of the liberal hand-wringing lefties haven't offered to pop round and paint their doors for them. Or coat them in gold leaf with diamond detailing - tell you what, there's 20 million pounds worth of unwanted education money knocking about that could be put to better use by painting the doors all colours of the rainbow. "Someone please think of the children and how this colour could affect their future development | |||
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"Middlesbrough my hometown I was born herethank you It's a shit hole but my parents live around corner as do my brothers and sister and nephews ok Red doors I don't really care I live 3 miles from the dump but it's my house my daughters home so fuck you I don't really care racist and Islamphobia is just the media way of turning all you uneducated morons who never done a days hard work or paid taxes and live in council houses all their lives. Can't read or write or even learn the easiest language in the world which is my first language. I can speak 3 by the way and I have to work with these scum that come to me for advise and state asylum seekers get free houses etc I don't judge them I can't because I work in non judgemental and confidential information but some people make my skin crawl lol Educate yourself and find a decent job this country doesn't owe you anything you Jeremy Kyle show morons... ........God I love me job actually I do get people out of debt etc love it but can't stand my clients on a daily basis feel like punching them in face most days but I hide it very well. I'm good at what I do been doing it for over ten years and my colleagues mainly white middle class university educated are the best if u didn't have them I would leave.
If this country is full of the above and you hate dealing with them so much then maybe go and join isis and move to Syria. Tell them about about you fucking lots of white guys...your words. Im sure there welcome you
I wouldn't join ISIS you brain dead moron I'm a non practising Muslim who swings ffs
You trying to be that uneducated morons from Jeremy Kyle show I have to deal with on a daily basis I rest my case ok
Non practising muslim. Hows that work then. One day you can eat a bacon sarnie then the next dont.
You sound like a really nice girl. "The only fact stated that was correct was that Middlesboro is a shithole,Who is this Jeremy Kyle character people refer to?,what is a council house? 3 miles outside Boro maybe the op can enlighten us all | |||
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"Hate crime is wrong whether the queen's husband( that naughty old man) hears of it or not. It is wrong. My thread sought to find out the best way to solve the problem: reprint doors, chase and punish the guilty, or police the vulnerable better. I am disappointed to say a huge majority of respondents chose to dwell on something else.
Might be the slant that you put on everything, you have to understand that non muslem, non black, non able bodied people etc get the shit end of the stick too. They have also worked hard in this country, struggle to get houses, furniture, benefits etc and see what they see from the media etc. Just the same as when programs about scroungers are on tv. Theres no winning.
The slant YOU put on EVERYTHING ?
Are you for real? Show me the said slant
Asylum seekers, no free meal ticket, only bad things happen to them, thats the slant i get along with implying only asylum (muslim) red doors get damaged or am i misguided?"Have a good read, my friend. Not a single of your inferences is accurate. I await your apology or resignation letter in the morning. | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?"the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective.. as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees.. who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'.. fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors.. by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..? does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok? and on whom..? | |||
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"I'm surprised that none of the liberal hand-wringing lefties haven't offered to pop round and paint their doors for them. Or coat them in gold leaf with diamond detailing - tell you what, there's 20 million pounds worth of unwanted education money knocking about that could be put to better use by painting the doors all colours of the rainbow. "surely its more cost effective and the right thing to do to prevent the attacks..? | |||
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"I really can't be bothered with all the keyboard warriors on here lol
Not even going to quote a few really racist comments about Syria ns on here its really turning quiet personal
My thread got closed my mods didn't even comment after my first suggestions on how vile people hide behind keyboards then have the nerve to report me to get banned for 24 hrs off forums ffs"You got a 24 hr forum ban because you broke the forum rules, plain and simple. The rules apply to you the same as they do equally to everyone else on here. You are not a special case, get over yourself already. | |||
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"I'm surprised that none of the liberal hand-wringing lefties haven't offered to pop round and paint their doors for them. Or coat them in gold leaf with diamond detailing - tell you what, there's 20 million pounds worth of unwanted education money knocking about that could be put to better use by painting the doors all colours of the rainbow.
surely its more cost effective and the right thing to do to prevent the attacks..?
"Ok then, formica doors and the entire country's police forces put on full alert. That 20 million could be spent on police overtime. There you go, the perfect solution. | |||
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"I'm surprised that none of the liberal hand-wringing lefties haven't offered to pop round and paint their doors for them. Or coat them in gold leaf with diamond detailing - tell you what, there's 20 million pounds worth of unwanted education money knocking about that could be put to better use by painting the doors all colours of the rainbow.
surely its more cost effective and the right thing to do to prevent the attacks..?
Ok then, formica doors and the entire country's police forces put on full alert. That 20 million could be spent on police overtime. There you go, the perfect solution."well done you'll make a great home secretary.. | |||
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"I'm surprised that none of the liberal hand-wringing lefties haven't offered to pop round and paint their doors for them. Or coat them in gold leaf with diamond detailing - tell you what, there's 20 million pounds worth of unwanted education money knocking about that could be put to better use by painting the doors all colours of the rainbow.
surely its more cost effective and the right thing to do to prevent the attacks..?
Ok then, formica doors and the entire country's police forces put on full alert. That 20 million could be spent on police overtime. There you go, the perfect solution.
well done you'll make a great home secretary.."Thanks. You'd make a great secretary. | |||
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"I'm surprised that none of the liberal hand-wringing lefties haven't offered to pop round and paint their doors for them. Or coat them in gold leaf with diamond detailing - tell you what, there's 20 million pounds worth of unwanted education money knocking about that could be put to better use by painting the doors all colours of the rainbow.
surely its more cost effective and the right thing to do to prevent the attacks..?
Ok then, formica doors and the entire country's police forces put on full alert. That 20 million could be spent on police overtime. There you go, the perfect solution.
well done you'll make a great home secretary..
Thanks. You'd make a great secretary."thanks
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"Hate crime is wrong whether the queen's husband( that naughty old man) hears of it or not. It is wrong. My thread sought to find out the best way to solve the problem: reprint doors, chase and punish the guilty, or police the vulnerable better. I am disappointed to say a huge majority of respondents chose to dwell on something else.
Might be the slant that you put on everything, you have to understand that non muslem, non black, non able bodied people etc get the shit end of the stick too. They have also worked hard in this country, struggle to get houses, furniture, benefits etc and see what they see from the media etc. Just the same as when programs about scroungers are on tv. Theres no winning.
The slant YOU put on EVERYTHING ?
Are you for real? Show me the said slant
Asylum seekers, no free meal ticket, only bad things happen to them, thats the slant i get along with implying only asylum (muslim) red doors get damaged or am i misguided?
Have a good read, my friend. Not a single of your inferences is accurate. I await your apology or resignation letter in the morning. "Friend thank you apology have i read what you wrote? Or did i get the threads wrong? | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
"You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy? These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime? And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls"Some kind of concentration camp, you mean? | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls"you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so.. oh you meant holiday camps..? again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to.. the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all? is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such.. agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation? we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..? your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough? for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same.. using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad.. how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh.. | |||
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"Middlesbrough my hometown I was born herethank you It's a shit hole but my parents live around corner as do my brothers and sister and nephews ok Red doors I don't really care I live 3 miles from the dump but it's my house my daughters home so fuck you I don't really care racist and Islamphobia is just the media way of turning all you uneducated morons who never done a days hard work or paid taxes and live in council houses all their lives. Can't read or write or even learn the easiest language in the world which is my first language. I can speak 3 by the way and I have to work with these scum that come to me for advise and state asylum seekers get free houses etc I don't judge them I can't because I work in non judgemental and confidential information but some people make my skin crawl lol Educate yourself and find a decent job this country doesn't owe you anything you Jeremy Kyle show morons... ........God I love me job actually I do get people out of debt etc love it but can't stand my clients on a daily basis feel like punching them in face most days but I hide it very well. I'm good at what I do been doing it for over ten years and my colleagues mainly white middle class university educated are the best if u didn't have them I would leave. "Unusually (some might say) I sympathies with this. I spent 20 years of my life dealing with the 'scum of the earth' in various institutions and circumstances. These people wear you down and you do feel like wiping them off the planet on a daily basis. It is rewarding but it takes too much out of you for the money they pay. As a minority (White, Atheist male lol) diversity, equality and all that other stuff doesn't apply accept when they want to batter you with it. I got out for the sake of my (questionable) sanity and I would suggest you PP do the same before it fucks you up any more. Renounce that ridiculous, mediaeval, fucked up religion while you're at it. | |||
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"Middlesbrough my hometown I was born herethank you It's a shit hole but my parents live around corner as do my brothers and sister and nephews ok Red doors I don't really care I live 3 miles from the dump but it's my house my daughters home so fuck you I don't really care racist and Islamphobia is just the media way of turning all you uneducated morons who never done a days hard work or paid taxes and live in council houses all their lives. Can't read or write or even learn the easiest language in the world which is my first language. I can speak 3 by the way and I have to work with these scum that come to me for advise and state asylum seekers get free houses etc I don't judge them I can't because I work in non judgemental and confidential information but some people make my skin crawl lol Educate yourself and find a decent job this country doesn't owe you anything you Jeremy Kyle show morons... ........God I love me job actually I do get people out of debt etc love it but can't stand my clients on a daily basis feel like punching them in face most days but I hide it very well. I'm good at what I do been doing it for over ten years and my colleagues mainly white middle class university educated are the best if u didn't have them I would leave.
Unusually (some might say) I sympathies with this. I spent 20 years of my life dealing with the 'scum of the earth' in various institutions and circumstances. These people wear you down and you do feel like wiping them off the planet on a daily basis. It is rewarding but it takes too much out of you for the money they pay. As a minority (White, Atheist male lol) diversity, equality and all that other stuff doesn't apply accept when they want to batter you with it.
I got out for the sake of my (questionable) sanity and I would suggest you PP do the same before it fucks you up any more.
Renounce that ridiculous, mediaeval, fucked up religion while you're at it."It was all going well until you dropped the pot. Now what are we going to smoke? | |||
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"Middlesbrough my hometown I was born herethank you It's a shit hole but my parents live around corner as do my brothers and sister and nephews ok Red doors I don't really care I live 3 miles from the dump but it's my house my daughters home so fuck you I don't really care racist and Islamphobia is just the media way of turning all you uneducated morons who never done a days hard work or paid taxes and live in council houses all their lives. Can't read or write or even learn the easiest language in the world which is my first language. I can speak 3 by the way and I have to work with these scum that come to me for advise and state asylum seekers get free houses etc I don't judge them I can't because I work in non judgemental and confidential information but some people make my skin crawl lol Educate yourself and find a decent job this country doesn't owe you anything you Jeremy Kyle show morons... ........God I love me job actually I do get people out of debt etc love it but can't stand my clients on a daily basis feel like punching them in face most days but I hide it very well. I'm good at what I do been doing it for over ten years and my colleagues mainly white middle class university educated are the best if u didn't have them I would leave.
Unusually (some might say) I sympathies with this. I spent 20 years of my life dealing with the 'scum of the earth' in various institutions and circumstances. These people wear you down and you do feel like wiping them off the planet on a daily basis. It is rewarding but it takes too much out of you for the money they pay. As a minority (White, Atheist male lol) diversity, equality and all that other stuff doesn't apply accept when they want to batter you with it.
I got out for the sake of my (questionable) sanity and I would suggest you PP do the same before it fucks you up any more.
Renounce that ridiculous, mediaeval, fucked up religion while you're at it.
It was all going well until you dropped the pot. Now what are we going to smoke?"Lost me there dude (careful with the references to substances, got a ban for that a while ago lol) | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
"Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap? In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic"That was a singularly unpleasant and illogical rant. There have been plenty of documented cases of rape , torture and worse in Syria and other countries- which is what many of these people are fleeing from. As for you you telling left wing sympathisers that they should take in an immigrant child and throw one of their own out, that's a really pathetic form of emotional blackmail. Perhaps you should go and live in a tent in a refugee camp on the Syrian border through the winter. I doubt that would teach you either humanity or humility but it might teach you hunger and fear. | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic
That was a singularly unpleasant and illogical rant. There have been plenty of documented cases of rape , torture and worse in Syria and other countries- which is what many of these people are fleeing from. As for you you telling left wing sympathisers that they should take in an immigrant child and throw one of their own out, that's a really pathetic form of emotional blackmail. Perhaps you should go and live in a tent in a refugee camp on the Syrian border through the winter. I doubt that would teach you either humanity or humility but it might teach you hunger and fear."On top of being stupid, you cannot read very well, can you? Where did I say that it may or may not have happened in Syria or some other third-world country? And why on Earth would I want to leave Europe? You leave and go to Syria and we can then replace you with a Syrian | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic
That was a singularly unpleasant and illogical rant. There have been plenty of documented cases of rape , torture and worse in Syria and other countries- which is what many of these people are fleeing from. As for you you telling left wing sympathisers that they should take in an immigrant child and throw one of their own out, that's a really pathetic form of emotional blackmail. Perhaps you should go and live in a tent in a refugee camp on the Syrian border through the winter. I doubt that would teach you either humanity or humility but it might teach you hunger and fear.
On top of being stupid, you cannot read very well, can you?
Where did I say that it may or may not have happened in Syria or some other third-world country?
And why on Earth would I want to leave Europe? You leave and go to Syria and we can then replace you with a Syrian"You are in no position to call anyone else stupid given the ignorance you've shown as you've trolled through this thread. You come across as totally lacking in humanity which is a great pity because many of your country men have shown enormous generosity. | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic"instead of adding to try and bolster your position if you respond to what is actually said it is more akin to a debate between two people with (some) opposing views.. who said 'firebombed', usually a tactic of the far right in Germany but thankfully (not yet i'm sure you will agree) that common by racists over here.. there has been some fire setting and the thing with some of those who carry out such actions is that they will progress if not stopped, take that as a fact.. again your making shit up on the allocation of housing, its not my own view that anyone should be given priority over someone else.. and i didn't say that, did i? Being a bit of a social leftie i think housing should not be something for the rich but social housing is fundamental to a cohesive and just society, housing the asylum seekers is down to the local authorities and funny enough a millionaire is making more millions out of the public purse cos there is no social housing any more, so you best address that one to whichever Tory is making such decisions.. Thanks for the advice about housing someone, i would consider it and no need to kick out one of the children either as they are in their own places .. do i assume you will also house a homeless person in that case, someone who you have such concerns for or is that like your point about the raped women just someone to use to try and make an emotional point..? pathetic is as pathetic does eh.. ps. i don't wring my hands.. | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic
That was a singularly unpleasant and illogical rant. There have been plenty of documented cases of rape , torture and worse in Syria and other countries- which is what many of these people are fleeing from. As for you you telling left wing sympathisers that they should take in an immigrant child and throw one of their own out, that's a really pathetic form of emotional blackmail. Perhaps you should go and live in a tent in a refugee camp on the Syrian border through the winter. I doubt that would teach you either humanity or humility but it might teach you hunger and fear.
On top of being stupid, you cannot read very well, can you?
Where did I say that it may or may not have happened in Syria or some other third-world country?
And why on Earth would I want to leave Europe? You leave and go to Syria and we can then replace you with a Syrian
You are in no position to call anyone else stupid given the ignorance you've shown as you've trolled through this thread. You come across as totally lacking in humanity which is a great pity because many of your country men have shown enormous generosity."Oh, I am in a position to. However, in your case, I don't need to as you have very graciously proven that yourself Next time, read and understand, before you jump to conclusions. . Otherwise, you just look stupid | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic
That was a singularly unpleasant and illogical rant. There have been plenty of documented cases of rape , torture and worse in Syria and other countries- which is what many of these people are fleeing from. As for you you telling left wing sympathisers that they should take in an immigrant child and throw one of their own out, that's a really pathetic form of emotional blackmail. Perhaps you should go and live in a tent in a refugee camp on the Syrian border through the winter. I doubt that would teach you either humanity or humility but it might teach you hunger and fear.
On top of being stupid, you cannot read very well, can you?
Where did I say that it may or may not have happened in Syria or some other third-world country?
And why on Earth would I want to leave Europe? You leave and go to Syria and we can then replace you with a Syrian
You are in no position to call anyone else stupid given the ignorance you've shown as you've trolled through this thread. You come across as totally lacking in humanity which is a great pity because many of your country men have shown enormous generosity.
Oh, I am in a position to. However, in your case, I don't need to as you have very graciously proven that yourself
Next time, read and understand, before you jump to conclusions. . Otherwise, you just look stupid"Ah yes, just as you have graciously and repeatedly shown yourself to be arrogantly xenophobic. Not to worry though, as a stupid leftie I respect your right to be ignorant and it pleases me that you feel free to exercise that right at every available opportunity. | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic
That was a singularly unpleasant and illogical rant. There have been plenty of documented cases of rape , torture and worse in Syria and other countries- which is what many of these people are fleeing from. As for you you telling left wing sympathisers that they should take in an immigrant child and throw one of their own out, that's a really pathetic form of emotional blackmail. Perhaps you should go and live in a tent in a refugee camp on the Syrian border through the winter. I doubt that would teach you either humanity or humility but it might teach you hunger and fear.
On top of being stupid, you cannot read very well, can you?
Where did I say that it may or may not have happened in Syria or some other third-world country?
And why on Earth would I want to leave Europe? You leave and go to Syria and we can then replace you with a Syrian
You are in no position to call anyone else stupid given the ignorance you've shown as you've trolled through this thread. You come across as totally lacking in humanity which is a great pity because many of your country men have shown enormous generosity.
Oh, I am in a position to. However, in your case, I don't need to as you have very graciously proven that yourself
Next time, read and understand, before you jump to conclusions. . Otherwise, you just look stupid
Ah yes, just as you have graciously and repeatedly shown yourself to be arrogantly xenophobic. Not to worry though, as a stupid leftie I respect your right to be ignorant and it pleases me that you feel free to exercise that right at every available opportunity. "No, that is simply your opinion. Whereas, your stupidly is a fact which you proved all by yourself for everyone to see I couldn't have proved it better even if I tried
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic
instead of adding to try and bolster your position if you respond to what is actually said it is more akin to a debate between two people with (some) opposing views..
who said 'firebombed', usually a tactic of the far right in Germany but thankfully (not yet i'm sure you will agree) that common by racists over here..
there has been some fire setting and the thing with some of those who carry out such actions is that they will progress if not stopped, take that as a fact..
again your making shit up on the allocation of housing, its not my own view that anyone should be given priority over someone else..
and i didn't say that, did i?
Being a bit of a social leftie i think housing should not be something for the rich but social housing is fundamental to a cohesive and just society, housing the asylum seekers is down to the local authorities and funny enough a millionaire is making more millions out of the public purse cos there is no social housing any more, so you best address that one to whichever Tory is making such decisions..
Thanks for the advice about housing someone, i would consider it and no need to kick out one of the children either as they are in their own places ..
do i assume you will also house a homeless person in that case, someone who you have such concerns for or is that like your point about the raped women just someone to use to try and make an emotional point..?
pathetic is as pathetic does eh..
ps. i don't wring my hands..
"There you go again with your silly little mantra about 'racists'. You simply cannot hold any half-decent discussion without accusing anyone else with a different view as a racist That sh*t was made up by you. Read your earlier statement, "until we have housed everyone in this country". To that I say, yes. We first house everyone in this country before housing migrants. To you that is 'racist'. To me it is getting our priorities the right way around. Our citizens come in each and every colour visible to the naked eye. How then can housing our own citizens first be branded by the looney left as, racist? Or do you think we should house the migrants first whilst we have homeless of our own? Or do you think it is a right-wing conspiracy not to house our homeless even though there are tens of thousands of suitable properties available? Bet you think it is that Good that you have sufficient spare capacity in your home. Perhaps when considering housing a migrant or two in your home, you can also take in a few homeless people too And no, I did not offer to take migrants or the homeless in. That is an offer made by you. Let us know how many you gave shelter to I have no issue with the lefties of the country starting a special fund to house migrants in palaces For the rest of us who are sane, it is sufficient that we give them basic shelter until it is safe for them to be sent back to their own countries | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic
That was a singularly unpleasant and illogical rant. There have been plenty of documented cases of rape , torture and worse in Syria and other countries- which is what many of these people are fleeing from. As for you you telling left wing sympathisers that they should take in an immigrant child and throw one of their own out, that's a really pathetic form of emotional blackmail. Perhaps you should go and live in a tent in a refugee camp on the Syrian border through the winter. I doubt that would teach you either humanity or humility but it might teach you hunger and fear.
On top of being stupid, you cannot read very well, can you?
Where did I say that it may or may not have happened in Syria or some other third-world country?
And why on Earth would I want to leave Europe? You leave and go to Syria and we can then replace you with a Syrian
You are in no position to call anyone else stupid given the ignorance you've shown as you've trolled through this thread. You come across as totally lacking in humanity which is a great pity because many of your country men have shown enormous generosity.
Oh, I am in a position to. However, in your case, I don't need to as you have very graciously proven that yourself
Next time, read and understand, before you jump to conclusions. . Otherwise, you just look stupid
Ah yes, just as you have graciously and repeatedly shown yourself to be arrogantly xenophobic. Not to worry though, as a stupid leftie I respect your right to be ignorant and it pleases me that you feel free to exercise that right at every available opportunity.
No, that is simply your opinion. Whereas, your stupidly is a fact which you proved all by yourself for everyone to see I couldn't have proved it better even if I tried
So, think about it and next time read and understand before shooting from the hip"You need to grow up as well as learn some humanity. You asked who had been raped, who had been firebombed. I gave you an answer you didn't like so you felt you could bullshit your way out of it. Keep trying, you are being very pathetic. | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic
That was a singularly unpleasant and illogical rant. There have been plenty of documented cases of rape , torture and worse in Syria and other countries- which is what many of these people are fleeing from. As for you you telling left wing sympathisers that they should take in an immigrant child and throw one of their own out, that's a really pathetic form of emotional blackmail. Perhaps you should go and live in a tent in a refugee camp on the Syrian border through the winter. I doubt that would teach you either humanity or humility but it might teach you hunger and fear.
On top of being stupid, you cannot read very well, can you?
Where did I say that it may or may not have happened in Syria or some other third-world country?
And why on Earth would I want to leave Europe? You leave and go to Syria and we can then replace you with a Syrian
You are in no position to call anyone else stupid given the ignorance you've shown as you've trolled through this thread. You come across as totally lacking in humanity which is a great pity because many of your country men have shown enormous generosity.
Oh, I am in a position to. However, in your case, I don't need to as you have very graciously proven that yourself
Next time, read and understand, before you jump to conclusions. . Otherwise, you just look stupid
Ah yes, just as you have graciously and repeatedly shown yourself to be arrogantly xenophobic. Not to worry though, as a stupid leftie I respect your right to be ignorant and it pleases me that you feel free to exercise that right at every available opportunity.
No, that is simply your opinion. Whereas, your stupidly is a fact which you proved all by yourself for everyone to see I couldn't have proved it better even if I tried
So, think about it and next time read and understand before shooting from the hip
You need to grow up as well as learn some humanity. You asked who had been raped, who had been firebombed. I gave you an answer you didn't like so you felt you could bullshit your way out of it. Keep trying, you are being very pathetic."You are so silly that it is now beyond a joke I asked in response to the migrants who had been attacked here. I asked how could these attacks of eggs being thrown at the 'red doors' be equated to being firebombed or raped You can read, can't you? Or are you now stuck in an endless loop where you will keep on proving your stupidity? | |||
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"Red is a good colour doesn't show dirt up but really send the fuckers back need to sort our own shit out before sorting there crap out English man living ruff o well Syrian here have a house really sorry about the red door do you want benefits with tgat would you like to claim for your family tgat you left there ok Well said
its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means..
I think that your arguments are factually incorrect at each and every level but do feel free to spout nonsense as fact
are you referring to myself?
Yes
maybe clarify what your talking about, it may help the debate?
You first; thus far, you haven't stated a single verifiable fact
well a red door like any other door will show up dirt, hows that?
you need to be specific otherwise it looks less like a debate and more like some sort of having a pop because that's how you are..
I could say exactly the same about you. You are having a pop at everyone because that is how you are. See how easy it is to spout nonsence
Some colours show up dirt more than others. Can you prove otherwise?
the principle of being accused and having to show ones innocent when the 'evidence for the guilt' has to be established by the person and not the accuser is not one i aspire to..
You did exactly what you do not aspire too, with your comment, "its wrong factually on many levels, but feel free to associate with ignorance by all means.."
What were your facts supporting that statement of yours? Or was it that you felt that stating nonsense such as that 'authoritatively', will gloss over the fact that your comment was not supported by any facts, whatsoever
my point about the person to whom i responded is that there were some nationalities mentioned, Kurdish and Eritrean i believe not Syrians..
the issue is about allegations of hate crime, its sad as i said earlier that some are fine with this mainly because of the fact that those targeted are of a different culture and race..
do you accept that hate crime is wrong?
I thought the issue was about red doors and how some ungrateful migrants have a sense of entitlement which they should not have. If they are truly in fear of their lives then let us create a secure temporary migrant camp and house them there until it is safe for them to return to their countries. And instead, give the homes we are housing them in, to our homeless citizens or those citizens living in very poor conditions
Where does racism come into this?
the 'facts' as known speak for themselves unless one is choosing to ignore the issue to suit ones biassed perspective..
as for camps whilst the economic's of such may be a point to debate its not really within the law unless i'm mistaken as regards asylum seekers and refugees..
who by the way are not criminals to be locked up in 'camps'..
fact is there have been attacks on some asylum seekers and refugees, not sure i'm aware of any such attacks on none asylum seekers and refugees in the same area who also have red doors..
by the way someone sets fire to your property, within the close vicinity of it should anyone be grateful..?
does one assume since you failed to answer that you think hate crime is ok?
and on whom..?
You keep on stating your comment was factual when infact you did not state a single fact but relied on your usual left-wing emotional blackmail to elicit sympathy
Why do you think camps are for criminals? Is that another one of your facts to dredge up sympathy?
These migrants were on the verge of being massacred, or so they say. That being the case, they should be grateful that we will let them in to Europe until such time as it is safe for them to return to their countries. And in the meantime, we will house them as cheaply as we possibly can
Many of our own citizens are without a roof over their heads tonight. They are our priority; not outsiders be it they be Brown, Yellow, Black or White
Your constant attempts at trying to bring racism into the argument renders your 'facts', impotent
Hate crime is not OK. Do you think it is OK for 1000 migrants to sexually assault and rape 600 German women? Or is that not hate a crime?
And where did your fact that putting them in temporary secure camps, is illegal, arise from? Put them in old military barracks or unused shopping malls
you keep on ignoring it and in your world it will be so..
oh you meant holiday camps..?
again not within the legally laid down procedures we adhere to and have signed up to..
the asylum seekers that have been interviewed by the media have been from Afghanistan, Eritrea and a Kurdish guy none of whom i believe stated their reasons for applying for asylum/refuge so you saying about to be massacred is something i'm not aware of, link to it for each of them at all?
is it only now people of the left who think attacking others and arson are not acceptable, i have equal empathy for anyone who suffers such..
agree that we should house people in such a way as resources allow, common sense really and not said by anyone that the issue is with the cost of their accommodation?
we do indeed have a housing crisis and many are homeless but are you now suggesting we should withdraw from our obligations under the whatever treaties we have signed up to until we have everyone housed in this country, not even Cameron is saying that..?
your 'point' about the victims of rape in Germany are pathetic as we are talking about attacks upon people in Middlesbrough?
for the record i have stated on other threads what my views are on that issue like pretty much every decent person of whatever political perspective has and its good to see its the same abhorrence, bit pathetic you think its relevant unless your saying that some of those asylum seekers and refugees in Middlesbrough have plans to do the same..
using a crime such as rape in one country by whomever to try and sway a debate about an issue unrelated in another country is pretty sad..
how ironic you spoke about emotional blackmail eh..
Eggs being thrown at red, green or blue doors is hardly the same as being burnt alive or raped. Who was firebombed? Who was raped? Are we hearing your so-called facts again or it is more of your sympathy evoking claptrap?
In Germany, we house them in disused shopping malls and military barracks. Last I heard, Germany is still part of the EU and hasn't broken any treaties in doing so
If there is housing available then priority must be given to our own citizens before putting outsiders in them. And yes, that means housing each and every one of our homeless citizens first before housing the migrants. Nobody, other than hand-wringing lefties, agree with your proposal of putting outsiders ahead of our own citizens; what utter nonsense
And what is wrong with giving them temporary shelter until It is safe for them to be returned to their countries? I think it is perfectly fine to house them as cheaply as possible and send them back the moment it is clear that their lives are no longer in danger
Perhaps you and each other left-wing sympathiser should house one migrant each in their home and chuck one of your children out to make room for them
What is really sad is that you are not prepared to do what you preach. Infact, I would call that pathetic
That was a singularly unpleasant and illogical rant. There have been plenty of documented cases of rape , torture and worse in Syria and other countries- which is what many of these people are fleeing from. As for you you telling left wing sympathisers that they should take in an immigrant child and throw one of their own out, that's a really pathetic form of emotional blackmail. Perhaps you should go and live in a tent in a refugee camp on the Syrian border through the winter. I doubt that would teach you either humanity or humility but it might teach you hunger and fear.
On top of being stupid, you cannot read very well, can you?
Where did I say that it may or may not have happened in Syria or some other third-world country?
And why on Earth would I want to leave Europe? You leave and go to Syria and we can then replace you with a Syrian
You are in no position to call anyone else stupid given the ignorance you've shown as you've trolled through this thread. You come across as totally lacking in humanity which is a great pity because many of your country men have shown enormous generosity.
Oh, I am in a position to. However, in your case, I don't need to as you have very graciously proven that yourself
Next time, read and understand, before you jump to conclusions. . Otherwise, you just look stupid
Ah yes, just as you have graciously and repeatedly shown yourself to be arrogantly xenophobic. Not to worry though, as a stupid leftie I respect your right to be ignorant and it pleases me that you feel free to exercise that right at every available opportunity.
No, that is simply your opinion. Whereas, your stupidly is a fact which you proved all by yourself for everyone to see I couldn't have proved it better even if I tried
So, think about it and next time read and understand before shooting from the hip
You need to grow up as well as learn some humanity. You asked who had been raped, who had been firebombed. I gave you an answer you didn't like so you felt you could bullshit your way out of it. Keep trying, you are being very pathetic.
You are so silly that it is now beyond a joke
I asked in response to the migrants who had been attacked here. I asked how could these attacks of eggs being thrown at the 'red doors' be equated to being firebombed or raped
You can read, can't you? Or are you now stuck in an endless loop where you will keep on proving your stupidity?"And I happened to remind you that people in Syria and other countries had plenty of experience of being raped, tortured and I'll add now other forms of brutality from inhumane people. You were so busy trying to reduce this to a name calling game as usual that you couldn't be arsed to pay attention to what was actually written. Now you think that by calling me stupid you can cover up your own vastly evident ignorance and lack of humanity with a veneer of rudeness. Keep trying darling. | |||
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Reminding, yeah my foot. Like any good drone of the looney-left, you had a knee-jerk reaction. You didn't bother reading before wading right in there
Now you are back-paddling with your latest attempt at saving face and coming up with your 'reminders of what happened in Syria' to these people
That is not what you wrote at all and 'name-calling' was started by you. Too bad, that in your haste you forgot the basics of debating; open your ears and eyes before engaging your mouth or risk looking like a complete prat | |||
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