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By *iking.beard OP   Man
over a year ago

Leeds

So I notice couples and singles alike describing themselves as "professional" or saying looking for a "professional". But wtf is a "professional". If that's your job surely that makes you a professional after all a van driver is a professional van driver and plumber is a professional plumber. Even a McDonald's bugger flipper is a professional bugger flipper.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Take a look at Newcastle United mate, if you can find a Professional footballer among that lot your doing well

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"So I notice couples and singles alike describing themselves as "professional" or saying looking for a "professional". But wtf is a "professional". If that's your job surely that makes you a professional after all a van driver is a professional van driver and plumber is a professional plumber. Even a McDonald's bugger flipper is a professional bugger flipper. "

Someone would call themselves a professional if their job is considered a profession rather than a trade or just a job. Generally it is something that pays a fixed salary rather than an hourly rate and I think that people put it to show that they've got a bit of money and (obviously) the class that goes with being middle class.

Cal

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By *loriajonCouple
over a year ago

near u

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I notice couples and singles alike describing themselves as "professional" or saying looking for a "professional". But wtf is a "professional". If that's your job surely that makes you a professional after all a van driver is a professional van driver and plumber is a professional plumber. Even a McDonald's bugger flipper is a professional bugger flipper. "

I find that the people who usually put that tend to mean jobs similar to themselves and not what they class as " manual labour "

As you might have guessed from the username I'm a fully qualified electrican, got my C&G certificates, and years of experience to prove it and I call myself a professional in what I do. However i do physical manual work all day and some deem that less professional than themselves due to the fact it's manual work.

Rightly or wrongly professional seems more to mean someone who works in a office not someone you'd see out and about in a sign written van

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

A professional MacDonalds Bugger Flipper.... now I understand why they taste like shit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the term professional tells me nothing when on a profile, it only raises more questions. My pet hate is when it is spelled " proffesional" which makes me think they are not.

Back to the term - traditionally the 3 professions were medicine, law and divinity.

I think today for a job to be considered a profession then you need to have a period of training, possibly university/ specialist school, be bound by a code of practice, professional ethics etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I notice couples and singles alike describing themselves as "professional" or saying looking for a "professional". But wtf is a "professional". If that's your job surely that makes you a professional after all a van driver is a professional van driver and plumber is a professional plumber. Even a McDonald's bugger flipper is a professional bugger flipper. "

What you mentioned are professionals.

Nor is professional usualy what the people who have it on thier profile this it is.

Working in an office on wearing a suit does not make you a profession.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Back to the term - traditionally the 3 professions were medicine, law and divinity.

I think today for a job to be considered a profession then you need to have a period of training, possibly university/ specialist school, be bound by a code of practice, professional ethics etc "

This

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Aaah, the weekly inverted snobbery thread about professionals.

How people describe themselves on their profiles is their choice and not for me to ridicule. These threads expose those with monumental chips on their shoulders.

Believe it or not some people actually like to have something in common with the people they fuck and if "professionals" are what they seek if you're flipping burgers in McDonald's then you can rule yourself out: easy peasy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Aaah, the weekly inverted snobbery thread about professionals.

How people describe themselves on their profiles is their choice and not for me to ridicule. These threads expose those with monumental chips on their shoulders.

Believe it or not some people actually like to have something in common with the people they fuck and if "professionals" are what they seek if you're flipping burgers in McDonald's then you can rule yourself out: easy peasy! "

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"So I notice couples and singles alike describing themselves as "professional" or saying looking for a "professional". But wtf is a "professional". If that's your job surely that makes you a professional after all a van driver is a professional van driver and plumber is a professional plumber. Even a McDonald's bugger flipper is a professional bugger flipper. "
. I assume that people who put this on their profile are only looking to meet salaried people in reasonable jobs . They are perfectly within their rights to specify whom they wish to meet.

However true professionals will normally have qualifications and in addition be a member of a governing body . .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Usually i find people who describe themselves as proffesionals are office workers of some sort.

Also i dont think its about being snobby by them i think they are just implying clean amd well dressed is what they want. And also that they work days and wont be available for a quicky over lunch.

Of course plenty of people who dont fit that may use the term. Thats just what ive found xx

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Professional sex-workers?

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


"So I notice couples and singles alike describing themselves as "professional" or saying looking for a "professional". But wtf is a "professional". If that's your job surely that makes you a professional after all a van driver is a professional van driver and plumber is a professional plumber. Even a McDonald's bugger flipper is a professional bugger flipper. . I assume that people who put this on their profile are only looking to meet salaried people in reasonable jobs . They are perfectly within their rights to specify whom they wish to meet.

However true professionals will normally have qualifications and in addition be a member of a governing body . .

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Yes;

Professional has many meanings; but the accepted general usage is someone who has a long term salaried job; one which requires further education, specialist knowledge; and is a lifetime commitment,

Doctor, Architect, Engineer, accountant , project manager, teacher, etc etc. and yes, usually membership of a professional body.

Some people might be pompous about it, however, most will put it in order to give the reader some sort of idea of who they are, and perhaps, they feel more comfortable with people who are similarly educated;

It doesn't mean that a "burger flipper" or road sweeper is any worse a person, but the inverse is that a road sweeper might feel uncomfortable socializing with a "professional".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Aaah, the weekly inverted snobbery thread about professionals.

How people describe themselves on their profiles is their choice and not for me to ridicule. These threads expose those with monumental chips on their shoulders.

Believe it or not some people actually like to have something in common with the people they fuck and if "professionals" are what they seek if you're flipping burgers in McDonald's then you can rule yourself out: easy peasy! "

It's hilarious how much ire this term provokes. Sure sone people use it when they probably shouldn't but find me an adjective that is used on a regular basis that isn't occasionally misused.

When I was meeting it's a term I used and I'm not apologising for that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's usually used by dick heads who work in some form of sales, where a suit, but don't actually have a real job of any social value. They use the term to try and clamber into the respectable middle classes. I'd prefer a plumber or a builder any day of the week than these usually over tanned and groomed types.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's used as a filter by those looking for something in particular.

The way some people react show that it's an effective filter.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I laugh when they can't spell it properly. In my head I then change the word from professional to toss-pot, and it generally makes sense and reads better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn't we have a similar thread the other day ??

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"So I notice couples and singles alike describing themselves as "professional" or saying looking for a "professional". But wtf is a "professional". If that's your job surely that makes you a professional after all a van driver is a professional van driver and plumber is a professional plumber. Even a McDonald's bugger flipper is a professional bugger flipper. "

How would you like it if they said what they really meant?

That they enjoy a good standard of living and look after themselves and regard themselves as middle class. They don't want to meet poor people, people on benefits, minimum wage or anyone who is working class.

Just feel reassured that they would not want to meet someone who would feel offended at the way that they have worded their profile. Simple filtering.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A profession certainly has nothing to do with the amount people earn, just that they are bound by a code of ethics and a mandatory belonging to a regulatory body.

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By *lectrumMan
over a year ago

south shields

Sounds like there up there own Ass to me speaking as a humble scaffolder

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


"Sounds like there up there own Ass to me speaking as a humble scaffolder "

Point proven then; they have done you a favour as you wouldn't like them, so you wouldn't waste time contacting them.

Win- win, then.....

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Snobbery and inverted snobbery are useful as filters as is the use of descriptions that exclude us. Quite simply if a profile has any description that you don't fit or agree with neither of you is suitable for each other.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

I think some people just put it to make themselves sound better,however then don't spell it correctly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think some people just put it to make themselves sound better,however then don't spell it correctly "

I think it's twattish if they're not even in a profession. A humble opinion .

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

What descriptions do those who object find acceptable?

I see loads saying "I'm just a normal guy" or "I'm a bit overweight" etc. Is that ok if true but using words like professional not ok...even if true? Do you object to it because you feel it excludes you or because of what you think it implies about the people using it? If I objected to somebody using the term "blue collar worker" in their profile because of what I felt it implied about them would that be ok or would it make me a snob?

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By *carlet_heavenWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks

My absolute favourite is when someone describes themselves as 'proffesional' or 'profesional'

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"What descriptions do those who object find acceptable?

I see loads saying "I'm just a normal guy" or "I'm a bit overweight" etc. Is that ok if true but using words like professional not ok...even if true? Do you object to it because you feel it excludes you or because of what you think it implies about the people using it? If I objected to somebody using the term "blue collar worker" in their profile because of what I felt it implied about them would that be ok or would it make me a snob?"

I don't object to the word,the time's I've seen professional on someone's profile I'm never convinced they are that's all. Some put professional then have a poor profile,I see professional people as being intelligent at least. If I'm convinced they are as they say I wouldn't be for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I see the word professional I just assume they have a job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The usual inverse snobbery at its best. I don't use the word on my profile but if I did I wouldn't feel the need to justify myself because people it applies to will know what I mean by it.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"What descriptions do those who object find acceptable?

I see loads saying "I'm just a normal guy" or "I'm a bit overweight" etc. Is that ok if true but using words like professional not ok...even if true? Do you object to it because you feel it excludes you or because of what you think it implies about the people using it? If I objected to somebody using the term "blue collar worker" in their profile because of what I felt it implied about them would that be ok or would it make me a snob?

I don't object to the word,the time's I've seen professional on someone's profile I'm never convinced they are that's all. Some put professional then have a poor profile,I see professional people as being intelligent at least. If I'm convinced they are as they say I wouldn't be for them."

But that's true of so many of the descriptions people use I'm never convinced that they are, good looking, vwe, slim, age 45, respectful etc. I just wonder what it is about the use of professional that makes people so mad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always wanted to be Bodie, when I was a kid in the 80's, if that counts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I see the word professional I just assume they have a job

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

and there was me daydreaming of a MMMF with Bodie, Doyle and the blonde piece who drove Cowley's burgundy Granada

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"What descriptions do those who object find acceptable?

I see loads saying "I'm just a normal guy" or "I'm a bit overweight" etc. Is that ok if true but using words like professional not ok...even if true? Do you object to it because you feel it excludes you or because of what you think it implies about the people using it? If I objected to somebody using the term "blue collar worker" in their profile because of what I felt it implied about them would that be ok or would it make me a snob?

I don't object to the word,the time's I've seen professional on someone's profile I'm never convinced they are that's all. Some put professional then have a poor profile,I see professional people as being intelligent at least. If I'm convinced they are as they say I wouldn't be for them.

But that's true of so many of the descriptions people use I'm never convinced that they are, good looking, vwe, slim, age 45, respectful etc. I just wonder what it is about the use of professional that makes people so mad."

I don't know,maybe they think they're trying to put themselves above certain mere mortals like myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"people it applies to will know what I mean by it. "

Smashed it out the park

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've actually had a head master a few police officers and a surgeon so I don't mind professionals.

I'm a professional but I don't put it on my profile because what I do for a living doesn't really factor on my personality and looks and I've fucked taxi drivers plumbers and builders as well so I don't think it makes any different to be honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a professional - gosh I feel like I outed myself there!

I do not put it on my profile as I believe it is irrelevant to what I seek. However It does irk me thay those who have claimed to be professional during interactions with me have, by the true definition of the concept, not been professionals. I'm sure the same "professionals" would take umbrage if I claimed I was slim when clearly I'm not!

I should do some action research and seek out professionals to fuck and question.

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)


"the term professional tells me nothing when on a profile, it only raises more questions. My pet hate is when it is spelled " proffesional" which makes me think they are not.

Back to the term - traditionally the 3 professions were medicine, law and divinity.

I think today for a job to be considered a profession then you need to have a period of training, possibly university/ specialist school, be bound by a code of practice, professional ethics etc "

exactly this, then you are legally entitled to have letters after your name on all correspondence xxxx

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Maybe they should put 'No Chavs' to save any confusion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I notice couples and singles alike describing themselves as "professional" or saying looking for a "professional". But wtf is a "professional". If that's your job surely that makes you a professional after all a van driver is a professional van driver and plumber is a professional plumber. Even a McDonald's bugger flipper is a professional bugger flipper. "

No you can't be a professional if you drive a van, it has to be a capri and you must be called Boddi or Doyal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will only consider a person a professional if they have,at the least,a masters in something worthwhile. Not in sociology or windsurfing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will only consider a person a professional if they have,at the least,a masters in something worthwhile. Not in sociology or windsurfing."

Sociology and windsurfing are not worthwhile?

If you could get a Masters in windsurfing would it then be worthwhile?

Intrigued......

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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)

I like the guys who are grubby and sweaty....hopefully wearing overalls please - I don't want professional I want sexy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps professionals are simply letting us know they're not superior enough to join the ranks of the social elite.... don't you know....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will only consider a person a professional if they have,at the least,a masters in something worthwhile. Not in sociology or windsurfing."

I have a not very worthwhile masters but that's not what makes me a professional - having a professional qualification and having to pay a fuck ton of money to a professional body every year is what makes me a professional. (Award for most uses of professional in one sentence?)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will only consider a person a professional if they have,at the least,a masters in something worthwhile. Not in sociology or windsurfing.

I have a not very worthwhile masters but that's not what makes me a professional - having a professional qualification and having to pay a fuck ton of money to a professional body every year is what makes me a professional. (Award for most uses of professional in one sentence?)"

Professionally done I'd say....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will only consider a person a professional if they have,at the least,a masters in something worthwhile. Not in sociology or windsurfing.

I have a not very worthwhile masters but that's not what makes me a professional - having a professional qualification and having to pay a fuck ton of money to a professional body every year is what makes me a professional. (Award for most uses of professional in one sentence?)

Professionally done I'd say.... "

I thought so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're only a professional if you put your qualifications in your email signature.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"You're only a professional if you put your qualifications in your email signature. "

I Agree

Mr DDC Esq, BEng(Hons) CEng, MICE, PDQ, ASAP, RSVP, PTO, QED, SPQR, AMDG.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this topic and possibly the 'no pics of the male' are the most popular threads on fab.

I find it rather amusing that people get so offended over it. The points are always the same too, the spelling, the clarification of what is deemed professional, the daft arguments about certain types of job, ie working in a fast food restaurant, are still professionals etc. Why can't you just accept they don't want to meet a certain type of person.

I think most of us want to meet people of a similar type background, with similar interests etc. We prefer to attend parties and therefore we choose to mix with a certain type of person. We wouldn't be suited to a party full of people similar to the cast of Shameless. We have nothing in common.

So for those who are offended by it, just pass by those profiles who state it and don't try and ridicule it because you feel irked by the exclusion

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I think this topic and possibly the 'no pics of the male' are the most popular threads on fab.

I find it rather amusing that people get so offended over it. The points are always the same too, the spelling, the clarification of what is deemed professional, the daft arguments about certain types of job, ie working in a fast food restaurant, are still professionals etc. Why can't you just accept they don't want to meet a certain type of person.

I think most of us want to meet people of a similar type background, with similar interests etc. We prefer to attend parties and therefore we choose to mix with a certain type of person. We wouldn't be suited to a party full of people similar to the cast of Shameless. We have nothing in common.

So for those who are offended by it, just pass by those profiles who state it and don't try and ridicule it because you feel irked by the exclusion "

Well said.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I think this topic and possibly the 'no pics of the male' are the most popular threads on fab.

I find it rather amusing that people get so offended over it. The points are always the same too, the spelling, the clarification of what is deemed professional, the daft arguments about certain types of job, ie working in a fast food restaurant, are still professionals etc. Why can't you just accept they don't want to meet a certain type of person.

I think most of us want to meet people of a similar type background, with similar interests etc. We prefer to attend parties and therefore we choose to mix with a certain type of person. We wouldn't be suited to a party full of people similar to the cast of Shameless. We have nothing in common.

So for those who are offended by it, just pass by those profiles who state it and don't try and ridicule it because you feel irked by the exclusion "

Eloquently put!

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

yup, am a bisexual professional and proud.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think this topic and possibly the 'no pics of the male' are the most popular threads on fab.

I find it rather amusing that people get so offended over it. The points are always the same too, the spelling, the clarification of what is deemed professional, the daft arguments about certain types of job, ie working in a fast food restaurant, are still professionals etc. Why can't you just accept they don't want to meet a certain type of person.

I think most of us want to meet people of a similar type background, with similar interests etc. We prefer to attend parties and therefore we choose to mix with a certain type of person. We wouldn't be suited to a party full of people similar to the cast of Shameless. We have nothing in common.

So for those who are offended by it, just pass by those profiles who state it and don't try and ridicule it because you feel irked by the exclusion "

Fantastic!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's basically code for "high opinion of ones self"

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"It's basically code for "high opinion of ones self""

thanks, I do

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

having a high opinion of myself, doesn't mean that I have a lower opinion of others who aren't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will only consider a person a professional if they have,at the least,a masters in something worthwhile. Not in sociology or windsurfing.

I have a not very worthwhile masters but that's not what makes me a professional - having a professional qualification and having to pay a fuck ton of money to a professional body every year is what makes me a professional. (Award for most uses of professional in one sentence?)"

Hairdresser?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think this topic and possibly the 'no pics of the male' are the most popular threads on fab.

I find it rather amusing that people get so offended over it. The points are always the same too, the spelling, the clarification of what is deemed professional, the daft arguments about certain types of job, ie working in a fast food restaurant, are still professionals etc. Why can't you just accept they don't want to meet a certain type of person.

I think most of us want to meet people of a similar type background, with similar interests etc. We prefer to attend parties and therefore we choose to mix with a certain type of person. We wouldn't be suited to a party full of people similar to the cast of Shameless. We have nothing in common.

So for those who are offended by it, just pass by those profiles who state it and don't try and ridicule it because you feel irked by the exclusion "

I don't want to meet similar people to myself,or with a similar background. I have aspirations

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sounds like there up there own Ass to me speaking as a humble scaffolder "

'mon the scaffs

Maybe not so humble here though,it's your actions that define who you are n I'm as good as any other fucker on here regardless of how we make our money.

I take people as I find them n let others worry about the bullshit.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"It's basically code for "high opinion of ones self"

thanks, I do "

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By *otfuzz66Man
over a year ago

Preston


"So I notice couples and singles alike describing themselves as "professional" or saying looking for a "professional". But wtf is a "professional". If that's your job surely that makes you a professional after all a van driver is a professional van driver and plumber is a professional plumber. Even a McDonald's bugger flipper is a professional bugger flipper. "

i need 2 meet a professional bugger flipper!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's basically code for "high opinion of ones self""

If I don't have a high opinion of myself who the hell else is going to have one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Aaah, the weekly inverted snobbery thread about professionals.

How people describe themselves on their profiles is their choice and not for me to ridicule. These threads expose those with monumental chips on their shoulders.

Believe it or not some people actually like to have something in common with the people they fuck and if "professionals" are what they seek if you're flipping burgers in McDonald's then you can rule yourself out: easy peasy! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've just checked my profile. The P word does not appear.

Phew, I'm sure to get a fuck now that I appeal to everyone......

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"I think this topic and possibly the 'no pics of the male' are the most popular threads on fab.

I find it rather amusing that people get so offended over it. The points are always the same too, the spelling, the clarification of what is deemed professional, the daft arguments about certain types of job, ie working in a fast food restaurant, are still professionals etc. Why can't you just accept they don't want to meet a certain type of person.

I think most of us want to meet people of a similar type background, with similar interests etc. We prefer to attend parties and therefore we choose to mix with a certain type of person. We wouldn't be suited to a party full of people similar to the cast of Shameless. We have nothing in common.

So for those who are offended by it, just pass by those profiles who state it and don't try and ridicule it because you feel irked by the exclusion "
. A good well written post .

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


"So I notice couples and singles alike describing themselves as "professional" or saying looking for a "professional". But wtf is a "professional". If that's your job surely that makes you a professional after all a van driver is a professional van driver and plumber is a professional plumber. Even a McDonald's bugger flipper is a professional bugger flipper. "

You clearly don't understand the difference between professional as an adjective, e.g. professional van driver, i.e. does it for a living, and a Professional, as a noun, meaning a member of a learned (pr lur-ned) Profession.

So I'd assume you aren't one

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