FabSwingers.com forum: Bareback attackers the haters and liars

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

This is not going to go well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just because you are clean now doesn't mean you will be next time and it may be something serious that you will regret.

Some people are just more aware of that and as such are more protective over their own health.

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By *icksfocusMan
over a year ago

Pontefract

"This is not going to go well "

Sits back with a cup of coffee and waits for the explosion

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I don't hate it, I just prefer not to do it with total strangers off here, or anywhere else for that matter

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By *estlands4Man
over a year ago

Sidmouth

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest"

What's your job then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair lots of people publicly say omg no.... Yet we have seen groups of strangers at clubs not use a condom at all....

We are not pro or against but choose to use protection for full sex ... But are aware that sexual contact in any form has risks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can you 100% guarantee the other person is clear?

I have nothing against anyone who does go bb by the way

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest"

I wonder what kind of job requires STI checks every 6 months.

Is every 6 months frequent enough to avoid infection? And do you get a certificate otherwise why should others believe you. xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the risks outweigh the benefits for many people. You say you get checked which is great but the potential is a partner who doesn't get checked or whom is unaware of any issues and may be carrying an sti which could be passed on.

It's a risk only you and the person or people you are with can agree to take, but what would happen if on your next check an sti is found, how will you react as it's such an unknown?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why do you think?....its obvious isn't it?..if you don't want to use protection then thats surely up to you....where are the 'liars'..in this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest

I wonder what kind of job requires STI checks every 6 months.

Is every 6 months frequent enough to avoid infection? And do you get a certificate otherwise why should others believe you. xxx"
she did say every 6 weeks ... But I don't know of any jobs either x

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

I have to say that I do oral sex without...what do others do about oral...dental etc?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have to say that I do oral sex without...what do others do about oral...dental etc?"

We think protected oral is crap .

We would rather not bother

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont hate anyone who does bb. Its just not a risk im prepared to take i would only do bb with my husband xx

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By *ohnjones3210Man
over a year ago

Chester

I wouldn't say that people are "haters". It's just risky, that's all. To some people, including me, it's just a big no no.

However, you're very much entitled to do what you like with your body. Who is anyone to tell you that you can't?

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts

I enjoy bareback, but I just won't do it with anyone except my boyfriend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest

What's your job then? "

I was wondering that

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

It's not Thursday yet!

Seriously though, you are responsible for your own health so you conduct yourself however you see fit. I'm not sure why you feel the need to call out those who make different choices to you. We all have a choice. I don't hate anyone for their choices. Knock yourself out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest

What's your job then? "

Maybe she's a wg, not really anyone on here's business is it,

Just stick to the topic

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest

What's your job then?

Maybe she's a wg, not really anyone on here's business is it,

Just stick to the topic"

No, she is perfectly entitled not to answer. Just as we are entitled to ask. And it doesn't seem off topic to me. Whether it is safe for her to make a periodic check is sufficient is the topic....but I'm not criticising we are just discussing a subject she raised

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

I am not thick or anything ... but what the hell does WG mean ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each to their own, but its not for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am not thick or anything ... but what the hell does WG mean ....

Working girl?

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

I think it's a working girl

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

"I am not thick or anything ... but what the hell does WG mean ....

Working girl?"

Oh right thanks......9-5 ....haha xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am not thick or anything ... but what the hell does WG mean ....

Working girl?"

Oh right I was wondering! thanks X

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest"

Some people think that barebackers spread disease- they think using condoms make them 100% safe. Bless.

I guess 'hating' another group of people makes them feel less guilty/ worried about fucking strangers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Condoms do not really stop stds as much as people think. How many people have given unprotected blow jobs/ oral then insist a condom is used makes me laugh.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

There is a cruising area in Brighton very common with the dogging fraternity, middle of last year several people were diagnosed with HIV, a bisexual male who had it had barebacked several people and spread it. It was found out that he got checked out regularly as well.

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

So, you regularly get checked and on one of those occasions you're told you have something you can't get rid of, e.g. herpes.

Then what? Stop playing? Tell everyone you may have sex with what you've got? Or carry on regardless?

I know which option my cynical self tells me the overwhelming majority will opt for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each to their own, you will always have someone that wants to be negative but if it suits and no harm is happening fair play to you, carry on having fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Condoms do not really stop stds as much as people think. How many people have given unprotected blow jobs/ oral then insist a condom is used makes me laugh.

Why... It's a considerably lower risk to give oral without.. even more so if you don't do it to completion

I insist on condoms for penetration but would never give oral with a condom on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you don't wear a skin ,your not coming in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was at a party down south last year which developed into a full scale orgy..not one condom used...so it tipped the balance for me to say no ta!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't feel it necessary to criticise the behaviour of people I'd avoid ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's no point castigating people who choose to go bareback and are upfront and tell people about it. Personally not something I'd do, and wouldn't want to meet those who do so I'd rather people didn't feel forced to lie about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, you regularly get checked and on one of those occasions you're told you have something you can't get rid of, e.g. herpes.

Then what? Stop playing? Tell everyone you may have sex with what you've got? Or carry on regardless?

I know which option my cynical self tells me the overwhelming majority will opt for."

Herpes is a poor example to make your point since about 50% the adult population already carries the virus.

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

i meet lotsa guys that say they only practise safe sex then want to fuck bb ..best not to belive anything anyone says if your worried about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, you regularly get checked and on one of those occasions you're told you have something you can't get rid of, e.g. herpes.

Then what? Stop playing? Tell everyone you may have sex with what you've got? Or carry on regardless?

I know which option my cynical self tells me the overwhelming majority will opt for.

Herpes is a poor example to make your point since about 50% the adult population already carries the virus. "

That's HSV1, and not HSV2.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, you regularly get checked and on one of those occasions you're told you have something you can't get rid of, e.g. herpes.

Then what? Stop playing? Tell everyone you may have sex with what you've got? Or carry on regardless?

I know which option my cynical self tells me the overwhelming majority will opt for.

Herpes is a poor example to make your point since about 50% the adult population already carries the virus.

That's HSV1, and not HSV2. "

Both can cause genital blisters.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

good for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, you regularly get checked and on one of those occasions you're told you have something you can't get rid of, e.g. herpes.

Then what? Stop playing? Tell everyone you may have sex with what you've got? Or carry on regardless?

I know which option my cynical self tells me the overwhelming majority will opt for.

Herpes is a poor example to make your point since about 50% the adult population already carries the virus.

That's HSV1, and not HSV2.

Both can cause genital blisters. "

HSV2 is primarily transmitted through sexual contact. HSV1 isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, you regularly get checked and on one of those occasions you're told you have something you can't get rid of, e.g. herpes.

Then what? Stop playing? Tell everyone you may have sex with what you've got? Or carry on regardless?

I know which option my cynical self tells me the overwhelming majority will opt for.

Herpes is a poor example to make your point since about 50% the adult population already carries the virus.

That's HSV1, and not HSV2.

Both can cause genital blisters.

HSV2 is primarily transmitted through sexual contact. HSV1 isn't. "

The rise of oral sex has meant the lines have blurred between the two. Both can be transmitted through sexual contact. Both can cause genital herpes symptoms.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, you regularly get checked and on one of those occasions you're told you have something you can't get rid of, e.g. herpes.

Then what? Stop playing? Tell everyone you may have sex with what you've got? Or carry on regardless?

I know which option my cynical self tells me the overwhelming majority will opt for.

Herpes is a poor example to make your point since about 50% the adult population already carries the virus.

That's HSV1, and not HSV2.

Both can cause genital blisters.

HSV2 is primarily transmitted through sexual contact. HSV1 isn't.

The rise of oral sex has meant the lines have blurred between the two. Both can be transmitted through sexual contact. Both can cause genital herpes symptoms. "

Most people contract HSV1 in childhood. They weren't sucking off loads of cocks to catch it. HSV1 isn't primarily an STI, saying a lot of people have it doesn't mean that you shouldn't protect against HSV2.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i meet lotsa guys that say they only practise safe sex then want to fuck bb ..best not to belive anything anyone says if your worried about it"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just because you are clean now doesn't mean you will be next time and it may be something serious that you will regret.

Some people are just more aware of that and as such are more protective over their own health."

Exactly!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest"

I think it's because of Daniella Westbrook.

Ask Shag. He watches it.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest

I think it's because of Daniella Westbrook.

Ask Shag. He watches it."

It took me a second...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest

I wonder what kind of job requires STI checks every 6 months.

Is every 6 months frequent enough to avoid infection? And do you get a certificate otherwise why should others believe you. xxx"

I work in a sex club they require you to be tested every 4 weeks, if you don't you don't get any dates for the following month untill you provide proof of testing

Saying that the club I work in is a safe sex club, customers are told condoms are a must but you wouldnt believe how many guys are willing to have unprotected sex, I've lost count of the times that guys have put a condom on asked me if they can do me from behind and took it off without me knowing and tried to have sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Prefer without in a relationship but having just met always a condom if unsure do it the Irish way with 3condoms to be sure to be sure to be sure

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Is anyone using PrEp treatment? It provides as near 0% chance of infection, coupled with your choice of behavior, as you're going to get atm.

I'm guessing that thousands of us here will have contracted sexually transmitted viruses etc and never ensured we were clear of them, whilst still having sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is anyone using PrEp treatment? It provides as near 0% chance of infection, coupled with your choice of behavior, as you're going to get atm.

I'm guessing that thousands of us here will have contracted sexually transmitted viruses etc and never ensured we were clear of them, whilst still having sex. "

As an FYI, Terrence Higgins Trust is petitioning the NHS to make PrEPavailable to those people who are most at risk of getting HIV. You can Google it and sign it.

Right now it's private.

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By *ayandpCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

"Is anyone using PrEp treatment? It provides as near 0% chance of infection, coupled with your choice of behavior, as you're going to get atm.

I'm guessing that thousands of us here will have contracted sexually transmitted viruses etc and never ensured we were clear of them, whilst still having sex.

As an FYI, Terrence Higgins Trust is petitioning the NHS to make PrEPavailable to those people who are most at risk of getting HIV. You can Google it and sign it.

Right now it's private. "

FYI?

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By *umpleteazerWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest

I wonder what kind of job requires STI checks every 6 months.

Is every 6 months frequent enough to avoid infection? And do you get a certificate otherwise why should others believe you. xxx she did say every 6 weeks ... But I don't know of any jobs either x"

If your job requires you to be tested, surely that means there is a risk of you passing something to people you work with (colleagues, clients, patients, etc etc) or why would your employer request regular tests? That would mean you were also putting your livelihood at risk if you catch something, no?

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"So, you regularly get checked and on one of those occasions you're told you have something you can't get rid of, e.g. herpes.

Then what? Stop playing? Tell everyone you may have sex with what you've got? Or carry on regardless?

I know which option my cynical self tells me the overwhelming majority will opt for.

Herpes is a poor example to make your point since about 50% the adult population already carries the virus. "

Doesn't matter what my example was. My point, as I'm sure you know, is I doubt many would alter their behaviours or let others know what they have contracted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is anyone using PrEp treatment? It provides as near 0% chance of infection, coupled with your choice of behavior, as you're going to get atm.

I'm guessing that thousands of us here will have contracted sexually transmitted viruses etc and never ensured we were clear of them, whilst still having sex.

As an FYI, Terrence Higgins Trust is petitioning the NHS to make PrEPavailable to those people who are most at risk of getting HIV. You can Google it and sign it.

Right now it's private.

FYI?"

For your information. As she showed an interest in it, she may want to support the petition.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've only ever had sex with a condom once in my life and another time when a guy put a condom willy inside me for literally two pumps. I've never caught anything (touch wood) well I've caught feelings but no nasties. If I was more sexually active and slept with multiple people I would have protected sex but i have sex once in a blue moon and I'd have asked enough questions or gathered enough information to know that that person is clean and had all clear test results before I slept with them. I know I'm fine because I have all clear blood and all the other stds test results from June last year and not slept with anyone before I had sex again. In 3 months I'll have tests again for peace of mind so I 100% know I'm ok before I sleep with anyone else.

I'd rather be honest and I don't give a shit how many questions I ask a person before I decide if there's any risk to me by sleeping with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No sex is safe.. Its all high risk .. When your meeting people you dont know well .... kissing and oral can give you some nasty things so I see it all high risk sorry I just do ...... and even if a person say they are clean do you trust Others with your own health no i dont sorry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I happen to value my health way more then sex

End of

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best line I've ever heard on why a man couldn't use a condom. ..He has a phobia of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

u might not suffer the effects off StIs as a male. so 8Os attitude to think u r 100% clear guaranteed. no matter medically proven a man's cock has greater probably to b the dormant transfer...

ask urselfs then " why is throat cancer becoming increased greater in women"?...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

throat cancer is on the increase in women ...ill drop that in for thoughts!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my issue here would be .."

how honest are u to discuss to u r newest fuck where or whom uve been ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is not going to go well "

I love that comment fire blade you could see it coming before it happened lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest"

What's happens if you catch HIV one day after your test and then sleep with 10 guys before next test

Could infect 100's of people in all

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Through people messaging me, I know have a list of the profiles that lie. I luv fab. Thanx every1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is irresponsible practice and playing russian roulette with urs and other peoples health and lives ! put a cover on it

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By *irkby coupleCouple
over a year ago

Kirkby

What's the difference between fucking bareback and 2 fems swapping toys?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All it takes is just that one time with the wrong person and you could be fucked.

That's why I will always and only play safe. My life and health is Not worth gambling on.

Simple!

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By *cotbbtopMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol."

That is so true

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol.

That is so true"

Perhaps in your world. Certainly not in mine. I think more people have sense than you think.

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By *itzWoman
over a year ago

south wales

"What's the difference between fucking bareback and 2 fems swapping toys?"

male ejaculate?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"What's the difference between fucking bareback and 2 fems swapping toys?"

I use condoms on all my toys and they're changed between users, on the very rare occasion that swapping occurs.

I'm fastidious about the cleanliness of my toys.

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By *orneyashell87Couple
over a year ago

stockotn on tees

"I have to say that I do oral sex without...what do others do about oral...dental etc?

We think protected oral is crap .

We would rather not bother

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Through people messaging me, I know have a list of the profiles that lie. I luv fab. Thanx every1"

Forum filter are epic aren't they?

Love a list I do!

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Just because you are clean now doesn't mean you will be next time and it may be something serious that you will regret.

That is correct whether you BB or not.

Don't run away with the idea that using a condom provides safe sex it doesn't.

At the very best it provides a degree of safty, that is all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people use condoms on their toys! jesus christ, wtf is the point of even swinging if you go to these insane lengths to allegedly stay safe.

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By *orneyashell87Couple
over a year ago

stockotn on tees

"Some people use condoms on their toys! jesus christ, wtf is the point of even swinging if you go to these insane lengths to allegedly stay safe."

Totally agree xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We love BB, with each other and would love to with others but don't!

Doesn't mean we don't find it horny... we do!!!

Oral with protection no thanks!

Although V is starting to think when giving bj's, wearing protective goggles would be sensible, apparently it stings!

Laugh.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Some people use condoms on their toys! jesus christ, wtf is the point of even swinging if you go to these insane lengths to allegedly stay safe."

It's not just cleanliness. Toys can absorb odours. And they can be damaged by certain types of lube.

Considering I have some silicone dildos costing over £100 each, I look after them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some people use condoms on their toys! jesus christ, wtf is the point of even swinging if you go to these insane lengths to allegedly stay safe.

It's not just cleanliness. Toys can absorb odours. And they can be damaged by certain types of lube.

Considering I have some silicone dildos costing over £100 each, I look after them."

wow £100 for a dildo

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Some people use condoms on their toys! jesus christ, wtf is the point of even swinging if you go to these insane lengths to allegedly stay safe.

It's not just cleanliness. Toys can absorb odours. And they can be damaged by certain types of lube.

Considering I have some silicone dildos costing over £100 each, I look after them.

wow £100 for a dildo

Check out the silicone dildos on the Babes 'n' Horny site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We love BB, with each other and would love to with others but don't!

Doesn't mean we don't find it horny... we do!!!

Oral with protection no thanks!

Although V is starting to think when giving bj's, wearing protective goggles would be sensible, apparently it stings!

Laugh."

I wear my glasses when I am playing for this reason hehe x

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over a year ago

"Just because you are clean now doesn't mean you will be next time and it may be something serious that you will regret.

Some people are just more aware of that and as such are more protective over their own health."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is a cruising area in Brighton very common with the dogging fraternity, middle of last year several people were diagnosed with HIV, a bisexual male who had it had barebacked several people and spread it. It was found out that he got checked out regularly as well. "

Maybe because HIV isn't routinely checked for?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some people use condoms on their toys! jesus christ, wtf is the point of even swinging if you go to these insane lengths to allegedly stay safe.

It's not just cleanliness. Toys can absorb odours. And they can be damaged by certain types of lube.

Considering I have some silicone dildos costing over £100 each, I look after them.

wow £100 for a dildo

Check out the silicone dildos on the Babes 'n' Horny site."

yer just have

the pantie purse £29.99

10 Inch Silicone Dildo Cock with Suction to the bottom so you can fix it to any surface for you to ride. This 10 inch dildo is 1.78 inches in diameter and is the perfect toy with a lot of length.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Some people use condoms on their toys! jesus christ, wtf is the point of even swinging if you go to these insane lengths to allegedly stay safe.

It's not just cleanliness. Toys can absorb odours. And they can be damaged by certain types of lube.

Considering I have some silicone dildos costing over £100 each, I look after them.

wow £100 for a dildo

Check out the silicone dildos on the Babes 'n' Horny site.

yer just have

the pantie purse £29.99

10 Inch Silicone Dildo Cock with Suction to the bottom so you can fix it to any surface for you to ride. This 10 inch dildo is 1.78 inches in diameter and is the perfect toy with a lot of length.

Mine are from the luxury section, mostly large ones.

If you want a large stars 'n' stripes dildo, or a neon one, that's where you go. They are expensive though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some people use condoms on their toys! jesus christ, wtf is the point of even swinging if you go to these insane lengths to allegedly stay safe.

It's not just cleanliness. Toys can absorb odours. And they can be damaged by certain types of lube.

Considering I have some silicone dildos costing over £100 each, I look after them.

wow £100 for a dildo

Check out the silicone dildos on the Babes 'n' Horny site.

yer just have

the pantie purse £29.99

10 Inch Silicone Dildo Cock with Suction to the bottom so you can fix it to any surface for you to ride. This 10 inch dildo is 1.78 inches in diameter and is the perfect toy with a lot of length.

Mine are from the luxury section, mostly large ones.

If you want a large stars 'n' stripes dildo, or a neon one, that's where you go. They are expensive though."

thanks the ones i have are ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find it very interesting that 'some' people who openly admit on a forum that they frequent BB, actually list 'safe sex' in their interests

Be honest!!!

Mrs x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bareback with the missus lol!

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By *orneyashell87Couple
over a year ago

stockotn on tees

"Some people use condoms on their toys! jesus christ, wtf is the point of even swinging if you go to these insane lengths to allegedly stay safe.

It's not just cleanliness. Toys can absorb odours. And they can be damaged by certain types of lube.

Considering I have some silicone dildos costing over £100 each, I look after them.

wow £100 for a dildo

Check out the silicone dildos on the Babes 'n' Horny site."

Doing so as sipping coffee xx

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol.

That is so true

Perhaps in your world. Certainly not in mine. I think more people have sense than you think."

Nope this is certainly true in our experience aswell, men preach safe sex but when it comes down to it they try to slip it in bare.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I stopped reading at "with your job"

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol.

That is so true

Perhaps in your world. Certainly not in mine. I think more people have sense than you think.

Nope this is certainly true in our experience aswell, men preach safe sex but when it comes down to it they try to slip it in bare."

The post that the majority do it behind closed doors suggests doing it knowingly though, not half the couple sometimes doing it unintentionally.

I've encountered men who try to 'accidentally' lose the condom before entry too. It's a shame because that's the end of the meet.

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By *orneyashell87Couple
over a year ago

stockotn on tees

"Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol.

That is so true

Perhaps in your world. Certainly not in mine. I think more people have sense than you think.

Nope this is certainly true in our experience aswell, men preach safe sex but when it comes down to it they try to slip it in bare.

The post that the majority do it behind closed doors suggests doing it knowingly though, not half the couple sometimes doing it unintentionally.

I've encountered men who try to 'accidentally' lose the condom before entry too. It's a shame because that's the end of the meet."

Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me. Couldn't believe it felt like smacking him xx

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over a year ago

"Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol.

That is so true

Perhaps in your world. Certainly not in mine. I think more people have sense than you think.

Nope this is certainly true in our experience aswell, men preach safe sex but when it comes down to it they try to slip it in bare.

The post that the majority do it behind closed doors suggests doing it knowingly though, not half the couple sometimes doing it unintentionally.

I've encountered men who try to 'accidentally' lose the condom before entry too. It's a shame because that's the end of the meet.

Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me. Couldn't believe it felt like smacking him xx"

Holy fuck that's disgraceful! Fucking moron needed his head caved in.

that has seriously wound me up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What's the difference between fucking bareback and 2 fems swapping toys?

I use condoms on all my toys and they're changed between users, on the very rare occasion that swapping occurs.

I'm fastidious about the cleanliness of my toys."
rarely use toys but I have seen very few people that actually bother with condoms on toys in clubs which is why I avoid them now x

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol.

That is so true

Perhaps in your world. Certainly not in mine. I think more people have sense than you think.

Nope this is certainly true in our experience aswell, men preach safe sex but when it comes down to it they try to slip it in bare.

The post that the majority do it behind closed doors suggests doing it knowingly though, not half the couple sometimes doing it unintentionally.

I've encountered men who try to 'accidentally' lose the condom before entry too. It's a shame because that's the end of the meet.

Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me. Couldn't believe it felt like smacking him xx"

Under certain circumstances that is construed as rape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the risks outweigh the benefits for many people. You say you get checked which is great but the potential is a partner who doesn't get checked or whom is unaware of any issues and may be carrying an sti which could be passed on.

It's a risk only you and the person or people you are with can agree to take, but what would happen if on your next check an sti is found, how will you react as it's such an unknown?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol.

That is so true

Perhaps in your world. Certainly not in mine. I think more people have sense than you think.

Nope this is certainly true in our experience aswell, men preach safe sex but when it comes down to it they try to slip it in bare.

The post that the majority do it behind closed doors suggests doing it knowingly though, not half the couple sometimes doing it unintentionally.

I've encountered men who try to 'accidentally' lose the condom before entry too. It's a shame because that's the end of the meet.

Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me. Couldn't believe it felt like smacking him xx

Under certain circumstances that is construed as rape."

Under any circumstances its sexual assault..fucking disgraceful. .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What's the difference between fucking bareback and 2 fems swapping toys?

male ejaculate?"

You think only men can get sti's?!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol.

That is so true

Perhaps in your world. Certainly not in mine. I think more people have sense than you think.

Nope this is certainly true in our experience aswell, men preach safe sex but when it comes down to it they try to slip it in bare.

The post that the majority do it behind closed doors suggests doing it knowingly though, not half the couple sometimes doing it unintentionally.

I've encountered men who try to 'accidentally' lose the condom before entry too. It's a shame because that's the end of the meet.

Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me. Couldn't believe it felt like smacking him xx"

I'd have done more than smack him.

I'd have been tempted to ensure he could never cum inside anyone again.

I'd have been livid.

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over a year ago

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me."

What the actual fuck?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sorry but the only way is to Boil em bleach em and double bag em. What amazes me is the amount of couples quite happy to play bb. ffs people don't you realise it only takes the once and that's it game over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you just need to remember this weather bare back or not death is forever

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By *adysilkCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

the only way is no sex really if your that worried, if you have oral do you use a comdom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haters gonna hate

Potatoes gonna potate

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By *eorge17Man
over a year ago

Leven

"you just need to remember this weather bare back or not death is forever "

I blame global warming

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By *estmidscoupleCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands

"Haters gonna hate

Potatoes gonna potate "
I sing this all the time, nice to see someone else does too!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"the only way is no sex really if your that worried, if you have oral do you use a comdom "

Personally, no. But I don't consider the risks associated with oral to be the same as the risks associated with intercourse so I'm comfortable using different precautions for the two.

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By *awtymarkyMan
over a year ago

chester

I once over heard a conversation with a husband and another guy at the club about this scary thing. I heard him tell a guy that he likes creampies but if some guys won't go bareback with his wife he would give them a condom with a difference. The difference was it had been pricked with a pin so when it was put on it didn't break but after a couple of thrusts it would break inside his wife and if the guy didn't realise he would cum inside her only discovering when he pulled out that it had gone.

Very scary and such a shame as his wife was hot. So now I never accept any condoms of people and bring my own.

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over a year ago

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?"

I'd have reported it as assault.

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over a year ago

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?

I'd have reported it as assault."

For clarity..

Watch "Tea Consent (Clean)" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/fGoWLWS4-kU

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over a year ago

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?

I'd have reported it as assault."

I would need a little trip to Homebase for plastic wrap and an electric saw.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?

I'd have reported it as assault.

For clarity..

Watch "Tea Consent (Clean)" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/fGoWLWS4-kU"

I don't remember that covering the use of condoms with tea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Protected oral what's the point in that haha!! I've seen couples do bb in clubs swapping quite a lot....

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By *itzWoman
over a year ago

south wales

"What's the difference between fucking bareback and 2 fems swapping toys?

male ejaculate?

You think only men can get sti's?!

No, not at all. Where did I say that? Read the question.

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over a year ago

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?"

Quite. I would have been on the phone to the police before he could get off me.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

'ere we go again; will check this thread tomorrow after all hell breaks loose

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

"What's the difference between fucking bareback and 2 fems swapping toys?

male ejaculate?

You think only men can get sti's?!

No, not at all. Where did I say that? Read the question.

Men do not share toys either. It'ss risky for men and women. But....people do take risksThis is the same risk as bareback. xxx

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By *orneyashell87Couple
over a year ago

stockotn on tees

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?

I'd have reported it as assault."

I've never thought of it that way before x

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?

I'd have reported it as assault.

I've never thought of it that way before x"

Actually, it was rape. As soon as you did not consent....and he must have known you did not. Was that someone on here?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?

I'd have reported it as assault.

I've never thought of it that way before x

Actually, it was rape. As soon as you did not consent....and he must have known you did not. Was that someone on here?"

Absolutely. No means no, even if it was yes 30 seconds ago under different circumstances.

I'm appalled (but not surprised) people do this.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Of course men will try not to use a condom. That is evolution at work. The cries of rape and other protests are utterly fkin stupid.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Is anyone using PreP treatment? It provides as near 0% chance of infection, coupled with your choice of behavior, as you're going to get atm. "

I read a paper on it a few months ago.

Studies are still ongoing and there is a serious concern from medical researchers that just as we've seen antibiotic resistance, that we could also see PreP resistance at some point and the AIDS crisis could start again.

The new (well new-ish), and more virulent strain of HIV that was found in Cuba last year should also be of concern.

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By *inzi LTV/TS
over a year ago

The Garden of Eden in Beautiful North Wales

Some do, some don't. It's all down to preference. I only bb with my lover, my preference and also my partners preference...

What the hell that has got to do with anyone else doesn't matter because I'd never betray my lover.

Simples.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Of course men will try not to use a condom. That is evolution at work. The cries of rape and other protests are utterly fkin stupid."

That is one of the most idiotic things I've heard on here.

It's rape the second consent it withdrawn.

Neanderthal attitudes like this disgust me. Like men are entitled not to use a condom, even by force (since she tried to push him off and couldn't move him), if they can get away with it?

What fucking planet are you on?

I can only hope this is more of your wind-up trolling.

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

"Of course men will try not to use a condom. That is evolution at work. The cries of rape and other protests are utterly fkin stupid.

That is one of the most idiotic things I've heard on here.

It's rape the second consent it withdrawn.

Neanderthal attitudes like this disgust me. Like men are entitled not to use a condom, even by force (since she tried to push him off and couldn't move him), if they can get away with it?

What fucking planet are you on?

I can only hope this is more of your wind-up trolling."

It's a wind up. Nobody is "crying"anything. Just quoting the law.... and you know that it's right, don't you?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Of course men will try not to use a condom. That is evolution at work. The cries of rape and other protests are utterly fkin stupid.

That is one of the most idiotic things I've heard on here.

It's rape the second consent it withdrawn.

Neanderthal attitudes like this disgust me. Like men are entitled not to use a condom, even by force (since she tried to push him off and couldn't move him), if they can get away with it?

What fucking planet are you on?

I can only hope this is more of your wind-up trolling.

It's a wind up. Nobody is "crying"anything. Just quoting the law.... and you know that it's right, don't you?"

I know it's right. The wind-up artist? I fucking hope so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me personally always used protection since had a scare that came to nothing but made me aware , even serious relationship before fadswingers, protection till tested

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By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago

A world of my own

Aside from the obvious health concerns.

For me Bareback is something id only do with someone really special to me. Such as a partner I was in a relationship with. It's so much more intimate in my mind and should be respected as such.

On here I'm aiming for no feelings or emotions. It's another thing that provides a barrier to them as well as being vital.

I don't think people hate it. I think on here it scares. Rings alarm bells.

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By *hocko87Man
over a year ago

dublin

I luv bare back but only with a regular partner n not playing with any body else . I hate having to stop in d middle of passion but protection is a necessity I'm afraid .

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over a year ago

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?

I'd have reported it as assault.

For clarity..

Watch "Tea Consent (Clean)" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/fGoWLWS4-kU

I don't remember that covering the use of condoms with tea

the tea cartoon is great! i can see that its useful for teens maybe as part of sex education..personally i found it hilarious..'unconcious people do not want tea!'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some interesting studies here

http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Belfast

"I luv bb. I get checked every 6 weeks with my job. I am clean and neva had a problem. Y so many haters to bb. Be honest"

They're not haters hunni, they're truthers..

What you like is your biz but don't spread complacent dangerous rubbish.. Unsafe casual sex is danger. If you haven't been stricken with anything yet you've been lucky. I'd say quit while you're ahead.. Many women have contracted HIV through that type of behaviour.. Or traumatic abortions. It only takes one dirty dick and you're fucked for life hun.

Buy condoms and see a therapist about your health endangering behaviour.

No one likes a typhoid Mary. Xx

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Of course men will try not to use a condom. That is evolution at work. The cries of rape and other protests are utterly fkin stupid."

Did he say that? Did he? Really? I'm not in some alternate dimension in the 1800's am I?

I am agog and my gob is smacked, I just can't....

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

I know this is slightly off subject, but with all this talk of condoms protecting against HIV and other forms of protection against the virus you never see anything about getting circumcised?

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over a year ago

"I know this is slightly off subject, but with all this talk of condoms protecting against HIV and other forms of protection against the virus you never see anything about getting circumcised?"

Are you saying I lowers risk?

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By *mallteaserWoman
over a year ago

Central

Surely life is all about choice!

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"I know this is slightly off subject, but with all this talk of condoms protecting against HIV and other forms of protection against the virus you never see anything about getting circumcised?

Are you saying I lowers risk?

Considerably! The WHO studies over the last 20+ years of the difference in infection rates where sexual conduct is the same either side of the Rift Valley (the only difference being the men on one side are circumcised and not on the other) are eye popping in the difference!

Well worth looking at (and considering as a preventative measure by all males)!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know this is slightly off subject, but with all this talk of condoms protecting against HIV and other forms of protection against the virus you never see anything about getting circumcised?

Are you saying I lowers risk?

Well worth looking at (and considering as a preventative measure by all males)!"

The studies may prove it but unless I needed to have it done I wouldn't do it. I'd sooner stick with the good old fashioned rubber Johnny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem with the study is that to first start a chain of infection you have to have a catalyst.

The right people have to have sex with each other to start and continue the chain of events.

I am not saying that the study does not have worth and I am not advocating the non use of condoms But all the guys getting cut is not going to stop them or partners catching an STI, if it was only so there would be ques miles long LoL.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have hair on mine.

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By *orneyashell87Couple
over a year ago

stockotn on tees

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?

I'd have reported it as assault.

I've never thought of it that way before x

Actually, it was rape. As soon as you did not consent....and he must have known you did not. Was that someone on here?"

Yes he's on here a couple account. Wish I'd dealt with it differently now instead of just ignoring it. Cheeky twat even asked next time we saw them if we fancied playing I was like no thanks prick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah once we had a guy who pulled the condom off during. I felt him doing it but couldn't budge him off me. He then actually cum inside me.

What the actual fuck?

I'd have reported it as assault.

I've never thought of it that way before x

Actually, it was rape. As soon as you did not consent....and he must have known you did not. Was that someone on here?

Yes he's on here a couple account. Wish I'd dealt with it differently now instead of just ignoring it. Cheeky twat even asked next time we saw them if we fancied playing I was like no thanks prick."

Im sure admin would like to know who it was...

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over a year ago

"I know this is slightly off subject, but with all this talk of condoms protecting against HIV and other forms of protection against the virus you never see anything about getting circumcised?

Are you saying I lowers risk?

Well worth looking at (and considering as a preventative measure by all males)!"

So what about the HIV/AIDS rampant in the gay community in the USA where circumcision is the norm for a high proportion regardless of religious background?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"So what about the HIV/AIDS rampant in the gay community in the USA where circumcision is the norm for a high proportion regardless of religious background?"

Is it and is it?

All I know is that statistics are being manipulated to keep the threat of HIV as a tool to control sexual activity and still the WHO say circumcision reduces infection rates over time by 60%! Yet they do not recommend it as part of a HIV/AIDS reduction/irradiation program!

I also know that since the late 80's it has been know that a course of AZT to those newly infected kills the virus stone dead (a cure) and since the mid to late 90's it has been know that there is about a 28 day closing window from time of infection to treatment for the cure to work (again independent WHO studies). But this information has been suppressed in the UK and USA. Here in the UK the only people being offered the treatment being emergency services and health workers who have blood/blood contact with a known HIV+ person (on NICE advice).

So you tell me...

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over a year ago

"So what about the HIV/AIDS rampant in the gay community in the USA where circumcision is the norm for a high proportion regardless of religious background?

Is it and is it?

So you tell me...

A much higher proportion of US males are circumcised as a matter of course than in europe.

Statistics are always manipulated by people. Thats what they are there for.

And since you know so much, who exactly is covering up all this data?

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

"I know this is slightly off subject, but with all this talk of condoms protecting against HIV and other forms of protection against the virus you never see anything about getting circumcised?

Are you saying I lowers risk?

Well worth looking at (and considering as a preventative measure by all males)!

So what about the HIV/AIDS rampant in the gay community in the USA where circumcision is the norm for a high proportion regardless of religious background?"

ah! although the WHO seem to say that circumcision can reduce the contraction of HIV by males from women. Googling tells me that there is no statistically significant benefit in transmission between males through anal sex

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

"I know this is slightly off subject, but with all this talk of condoms protecting against HIV and other forms of protection against the virus you never see anything about getting circumcised?

Are you saying I lowers risk?

Well worth looking at (and considering as a preventative measure by all males)!

So what about the HIV/AIDS rampant in the gay community in the USA where circumcision is the norm for a high proportion regardless of religious background?

lol...and only half of them need to.

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over a year ago

Selfish people that are only interested in their own enjoyment bareback. Saying you get tested means nothing really, as like a car MOT it just says you were roadworthy on the day of the test.

I personally wish that you could tell who barebacks and who doesn't so I can avoid them like the plague.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"Not many will admit and say they like it even tho the majority do it behind closed doors lol."

You have statistics to back that up???

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over a year ago

"So what about the HIV/AIDS rampant in the gay community in the USA where circumcision is the norm for a high proportion regardless of religious background?

Is it and is it?

So you tell me...

Wildly misinformed.

I suggest you try a soruce other than above top secret.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"So what about the HIV/AIDS rampant in the gay community in the USA where circumcision is the norm for a high proportion regardless of religious background?

Is it and is it?

So you tell me...

Wildly misinformed.

I suggest you try a soruce other than above top secret."

Actually my source is the UN World Health Organisation. The discovery of AZT's ability to kill HIV in the very early stages of infection after the reason for HIV 'false positives' in newborn babies in 2 clinics in SA was found to be nurses giving AZT to babies born to HIV+ mothers at birth in direct contradiction to their orders to leave the babies untreated. The babies were HIV+ at birth, 3 months later they were free of HIV.

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over a year ago

"So what about the HIV/AIDS rampant in the gay community in the USA where circumcision is the norm for a high proportion regardless of religious background?

Is it and is it?

So you tell me...

Wildly misinformed.

I suggest you try a soruce other than above top secret.

But AZT doesnt kill hiv at all.

It just slows reproduction.

Hence why i youve either miss udnerstood your your taking somone elses _iews on a WHO paper.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"But AZT doesnt kill hiv at all.

It just slows reproduction.

Hence why i youve either miss udnerstood your your taking somone elses _iews on a WHO paper.

That's not strictly correct, AZT does not kill HIV after (and that is the important word) the viral load reaches a tipping point. From that point on all AZT does is reduce the speed of increase of the viral load. The tipping point arrives on average within the first 28 days.

Now I fully understand why this information was suppressed when first discovered as it took longer than 28 days (about 3 months in fact) to grow the viral blood cultures to a point that HIV could be detected. However that is no longer the case and there is a 99.8%

accurate test 10 days after infection. So why not update the advice and treatments? Is it a case of the medical establishment refuse to change advice? Rather like the dont take alcohol with antibiotics. Or is it another case of the US government doing experiments on a group of its citizens (like they did on the black community in the 40's and 50's) and our government doing what our paymasters tell us?

all I know is that if you are infected with HIV there is a 20 odd day window to kill the virus however we do not have the option of treatment in the UK because NICE say the risk of infection is so slight that it is not cost effective to offer the tests and treatments on the NHS (except to Emergency Services and NHS staff who sustain a (sharps) blood injury involving a know (registered) HIV+ person.

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over a year ago

just imagine what whole world cooperation could achieve in a case like this.

if everyone but I mean everyone stopped having sex for say 3 months and then all got tested (still not having sexuaal contact waitied for the results and then all HIV+ would know and only have fun with the same people you could near enough erradicate HIV withing a couple of generations

BUT then you would allways get the GIT who would breaak the rules just because they can

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