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ECHO and messages at work...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

How do people feel about this new ruling by the European Court that employers have the right to check messages sent by employees while at work. In UK court the judge isn't bound by it but must take the EU ruling into account. It said it wasn't unreasonable that an employer needed to verify the employee was completing their Rogers iona tasks during work hrs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if people are stealing from their employees by social networking on company time I'm not going to worry too much if they feel their privacy is being infringed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think if people are stealing from their employees by social networking on company time I'm not going to worry too much if they feel their privacy is being infringed "

Ditto. Employer pays for employee's time. Employee using time for own social purposes = theft.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

Well that's that settled then !

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

ECHR not ECHO.

I agree with the verdict, I'm interested to see how people start to react and how it'll change people's activities. If you know that the employer could ask for your phone to check online activity, I wonder what will be stored on it now.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Fab could get very quiet during the day.

C...

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

Crumpet Castle

People are paid to work a certain amount of hours.

Taking care of their own business in work time is not working.

Companies/businesses purchase equipment for their business needs not for employess to use for free.

Analogy...

You employ a gardener to tidy your garden for an hour on an hourly rate.

He makes 5 minutes worth of personal calls using your landline. Then loans his brother your lawnmower to do another persons garden. He borrows your mobile to send his wife a dirty picture or message but says you have no right to read it .......

fucks sake..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

Crumpet Castle

Oh sos...... I agree that bosses should be able to look at their own equipment etc and make sure it's being used for its intended purpose.

If you've took pics of your tits , checked your bank balance or written a job application you didn't want them to know about .... tough tits.

Use your own stuff in your own time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I got paid a fair wage for what I did if be more inclined to work harder,

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Output is going to radically increase in one office I used to work in that's for sure

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I think if people are stealing from their employees by social networking on company time I'm not going to worry too much if they feel their privacy is being infringed

Ditto. Employer pays for employee's time. Employee using time for own social purposes = theft."

Yup, I'd be very pissed off I had to pay myself for the amount of time I waste on fabs forums.......hang on a minute....

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I'm quite lucky really... I know too much about them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're using the work equipment and the IT policy of the company costs it, monitoring employees computer use is permissible.

However, your own equipment and connection, such as your smartphone and 3g, that would require a court order. You cannot be forced by your employer to give your passwords or encryption keys.

However, company cctv video of you using your own devices excessively is a different matter.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

i have always thought or assumed that employers could check emails etc but only if they have cause for concern? surely the only ones who need to worry are the ones doing things wrong?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A previous employer had an interesting stance on this.

A new MD wanted the company to modernise, and realised half the client base were younger, and far more social media savvy than the workforce. So he actively encouraged social media use within reasonable boundaries at work, to upskill the staff.

Anyone who took the piss in terms of hours per day was spoken too, but it worked.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

If you're using company equipment (including the company wi-fi) then they probably do have the right to see what you're up to.

However I've actually found that's it's far better to simply block sites that are inappropriate. Beyond that I don't really care what people do in the time they're working for me as long as they're getting the job I'm paying them to do done.

I'd rather have someone working for me that spent 15 mins in the hour surfing the internet but got his work done on time and within budget than someone who spent all his time working on the job but wasn't able to actually get it done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most uk companies these days should already have this covered by corporate information security policies that tell employees what's allowable use of their computers and networks and make it a serious disciplinary offence if they catch you breaking the rules. The echr ruling makes no difference to that at all.

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