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"wernt they right... what do women know about footie ?.... xx" and there's your reason why | |||
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"wernt they right... what do women know about footie ?.... xx and there's your reason why " so why is ur opinoin right ?... | |||
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"the women who was the lines person had gone through all sorts of training to get that, job, probably with a lot of resistance by such people like yourself, she wouldnt be there if she wasnt fully competent in doing the job so to have her job questioned the way the reporters (off the record or so they thought), just shows that the male supporters of the sport are still living in the stone age" its whats known as taking the piss... lots of men do it.. suppose some men dont have a sense of humour... | |||
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"Monkeyman Keys and Andy Klingon Gray are both absolute Nobs! so yeah they should be hung by there gonads." thats a tad extreme i'd say lol | |||
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"Monkeyman Keys and Andy Klingon Gray are both absolute Nobs! so yeah they should be hung by there gonads." hung by the gonads cause u think their knobe is a little extreme... | |||
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"Yeah why not!! at least you won't have to see them two baboons asses with there stupid big computer screen! talking about pointless tactics and set up play! thats way to american football for me." bet u support man u lol... | |||
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"lol I think they sounded like typical males who think football is for males only and women shouldn't be in it....bet they are gutted their sound was still on PS, I am female and know the offside rule " gonna explain it to me then ...lol | |||
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"the women who was the lines person had gone through all sorts of training to get that, job, probably with a lot of resistance by such people like yourself, she wouldnt be there if she wasnt fully competent in doing the job so to have her job questioned the way the reporters (off the record or so they thought), just shows that the male supporters of the sport are still living in the stone age" Well said Mally ! the decisions she made during the game were definitely to , if not above , the standard we currently have from all of the premierships male assisstants and referees this season ! Am with Rugby on this one - am a woman who is passionate about football and have been since childhood . I also know the offside rule ! lol Mrs Lippy xxxx lol | |||
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"lol I think they sounded like typical males who think football is for males only and women shouldn't be in it....bet they are gutted their sound was still on PS, I am female and know the offside rule gonna explain it to me then ...lol " I can do yeah, but can't draw pictures on here | |||
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"i do think its getting blown completely out of proportion only because they made the mistake of sayin it in the studio when they thought their mics were off... would all this be happening if they had said it in the pub.... a slap on the wrist and the embarrasment of it all should be more than enuff in my opinion " The thing is... when you are at work you have certain obligations to represent your employer in a good light and within the law. You can say what you like down the pub... though they would still sound like a pair of ignorant pricks. How much additional pressure do you think women officials feel throughout their training and career because of twatty comments like that? | |||
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"we had the first femail ref to do a top level game at coventry last year... she did really well but still took the piss.... just like anything new lol..." Exactly....the nly problem you have though is how far the women are offended.....most men in football take the piss out of each other, but it becomes sexist if it is a woman. If the women want to work in what is normally a mans work, then surely they want to join in everything. ( I am not taking about this one as they did sound serious and not taking the piss) | |||
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"lol I think they sounded like typical males who think football is for males only and women shouldn't be in it....bet they are gutted their sound was still on PS, I am female and know the offside rule gonna explain it to me then ...lol I can do yeah, but can't draw pictures on here " well thats no good i'm a man so cant read.. pics are a must | |||
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"It's the abuse the crowd give at games it always shocks me!! there is so much anger towards the officials even over slightest decision, but it's always been like that in football, but when theres little kids about! and a man in front is calling the ref an effing c!! i can never understand why it gets that far! but it does thats why its so aggresive in my eyes." been to the football more times than i can count and have found the language deplorable and thats fae the female supporters and the kids...lol | |||
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"yes she did get it right thats probably half the problem as most men get it wrong..lol.. ohh and she wasnt the women linesman lol...they are called assistant referees.... i wonder if anyone has actually asked her what she thinks of the whole debacle bet she didnt give a toss " I hope she is smiling to herself at proving the men wrong with her decision rather than being a woman in a mans world who takes it all way too seriously | |||
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"Women will find it far to hard to succeed in football! it's far to male dominated! look how hard it was for black players in the late 70's and 80's! theres far to much aggression in football it can be extremely intimidating." I agree but they stuck with it and paved the way for all the excellent black players who play now.... | |||
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"yes she did get it right thats probably half the problem as most men get it wrong..lol.. ohh and she wasnt the women linesman lol...they are called assistant referees.... i wonder if anyone has actually asked her what she thinks of the whole debacle bet she didnt give a toss I hope she is smiling to herself at proving the men wrong with her decision rather than being a woman in a mans world who takes it all way too seriously" well said that woman and yes she has apparently accepted their apology and said just lets get on with it.. | |||
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"i would just like to say womens football does have its plusses but only on 90 mins and the swapping of shirts lol " suppose thats ur idea of funny.... dont give up ur day job either lol.. | |||
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"asistant referee ?????????? thats the 4th official not the linesman ..a linesmans wait for it a ....linesman lol " and that's why men get called ignorant. the 'linesman' is an assistant referee. the 4th official is just that..the 4th official | |||
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"i'm no Man u fan it shows as well! Andy Gray loves Man u!! plus why not stick Martin "i've got man u tie" Tyler in with them!! and hang them all!! " Hmmmmmm so you bang on about appalling bad language at games in front of kids and women yet you state yd like to see all man u fans hung does that include man u fans women and children ... what a hypocryte you really are m8 maybe you should stick to the prawn sandwiched go put on yr rebooks and play fooking tennis instead cos your just chatting crap panther | |||
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"asistant referee ?????????? thats the 4th official not the linesman ..a linesmans wait for it a ....linesman lol and that's why men get called ignorant. the 'linesman' is an assistant referee. the 4th official is just that..the 4th official" have to agree to disagree there im afraid lol | |||
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"asistant referee ?????????? thats the 4th official not the linesman ..a linesmans wait for it a ....linesman lol and that's why men get called ignorant. the 'linesman' is an assistant referee. the 4th official is just that..the 4th official" lol so im ignorant for what ..disagreeing with you ah well lol | |||
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"asistant referee ?????????? thats the 4th official not the linesman ..a linesmans wait for it a ....linesman lol and that's why men get called ignorant. the 'linesman' is an assistant referee. the 4th official is just that..the 4th official have to agree to disagree there im afraid lol " good...and you'd be wrong.. | |||
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"asistant referee ?????????? thats the 4th official not the linesman ..a linesmans wait for it a ....linesman lol and that's why men get called ignorant. the 'linesman' is an assistant referee. the 4th official is just that..the 4th official have to agree to disagree there im afraid lol good...and you'd be wrong.." http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_6_the_assistant_referees_en_47406.pdf | |||
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"^^^ this person claims to be a football fan and would like to give his views on it...and uninformed ones they are too" last time i looked it was open forum for any1 to express there opinions so sorry to piss you of cos my views or opinions dont tally with yours so obviously that makes me ignorant lol | |||
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"^^^ this person claims to be a football fan and would like to give his views on it...and uninformed ones they are too last time i looked it was open forum for any1 to express there opinions so sorry to piss you of cos my views or opinions dont tally with yours so obviously that makes me ignorant lol " Nah....makes you wrong | |||
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"well andy gray has left sky sports.......surely thats an over-reaction " He has had his contract terminated by Sky Sports, and apparantly it is on top of a previous 'offence' in December of last year. | |||
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"It amazes me that someone could have knowledge about the Keys/Gray story without having heard the phrase 'assistant referee' Let alone a football fan who supposedly goes to games not knowing it yours A. season ticket holder" Welling FC? Cray Wanderers? | |||
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"It amazes me that someone could have knowledge about the Keys/Gray story without having heard the phrase 'assistant referee' Let alone a football fan who supposedly goes to games not knowing it yours A. season ticket holder Welling FC? Cray Wanderers?" lol no. but if i tell you who it will start him off again | |||
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"In association football, an assistant referee is one of several officials who assist the referee in controlling a match. Two officials (traditionally known as linesmen) stand on the touchlines, while a fourth official assists administrative or other match related tasks as directed by the referee. A fifth official may be assigned as a replacement should one official be unable to continue. ............... Taken from the fa website site I rest my case ..shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lol " you attempted to prove your point by pasting a paragraph whose 5th and 6th words were 'assistant referee' can I ask again...are the forums dumbing down? . . ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh...lol | |||
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"You don't get it do you? TRADITIONALLY known as Linesmen......now known as Assistant referees in modern football for crying out loud. When did you last go to see your team?....was it in the days of Bobby Charlton, have to ask as they were known as Linesmen then." okay jane and tra you really need to relax however do u manage in the real world does it stress you waking up every morning ? to the true fan linesman are known as linesman the term 4th official was only introduced in 93 at the start of the premiere league and for the record i have been a season ticket holder for last seven years and b4 that whenever i could get a ticket please note i have simply disagreed with you both but have not insulted you both or tried to belittle you both in any way ...unlike you two "real true "soccer" fans lol | |||
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"Women will find it far to hard to succeed in football! it's far to male dominated! look how hard it was for black players in the late 70's and 80's! theres far to much aggression in football it can be extremely intimidating." Women are succeeding in football and have been for years, though. As for it being hard - so whats new about women being trashed by men? Still doesn't stop 'em succeeding. | |||
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"whatever next female drivers are better drivers than men ???" statistically they are believe it or not | |||
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"whatever next female drivers are better drivers than men ??? statistically they are believe it or not " On the day I read that in the paper, I saw a woman driving with her elbows while simultaneous on the phone and holding a coffee. | |||
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"lol tra as i suspected u stick to your stats and graphs and wall charts hun did u know theres a vacancy going at sky sports since andy the blah blah grays sacking... yrs true footy traditionalist lol " I couldn't work for sky. I don't have the required manchestercentric bias | |||
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"Andy Gray has now been sacked?! He annoyed me lots of times but I think this is pretty ridiculous. Must have refused to apologise since keys did today and hasn't been sacked. Who's gonna work all the pointless arrows everywhere machines now?!" well m8 i hope to fuck it aint gonna be ian wright | |||
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"Is it just me that thinks the media has an arsenalcentric view rather than a manchestercentric bias?!" Totally agree with u press are quite anti man u they banged on about arsenal winning the premiership (once) unbeaten yet never mention man uniteds dominance fr over the past decade. They also refer to man city as the mancs team of choice which is complete bull cos most mancs who go to games go to o.t as recently reported in a newspaper stating that most season ticket holders with a manc postcode go to o.t ..ow i loved pointing this fact out to me bitter blue m8 lol | |||
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"lol tra as i suspected u stick to your stats and graphs and wall charts hun did u know theres a vacancy going at sky sports since andy the blah blah grays sacking... yrs true footy traditionalist lol I couldn't work for sky. I don't have the required manchestercentric bias " ...... lol and u say my prescence here is dumbing down the forum... lol | |||
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"lol tra as i suspected u stick to your stats and graphs and wall charts hun did u know theres a vacancy going at sky sports since andy the blah blah grays sacking... yrs true footy traditionalist lol I couldn't work for sky. I don't have the required manchestercentric bias ...... lol and u say my prescence here is dumbing down the forum... lol " i see u dint bite at the women drivers better than men post awwwww shucks lol | |||
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"lol tra as i suspected u stick to your stats and graphs and wall charts hun did u know theres a vacancy going at sky sports since andy the blah blah grays sacking... yrs true footy traditionalist lol I couldn't work for sky. I don't have the required manchestercentric bias ...... lol and u say my prescence here is dumbing down the forum... lol " sorry...'prescense'? have no idea what that means | |||
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"lol tra as i suspected u stick to your stats and graphs and wall charts hun did u know theres a vacancy going at sky sports since andy the blah blah grays sacking... yrs true footy traditionalist lol I couldn't work for sky. I don't have the required manchestercentric bias ...... lol and u say my prescence here is dumbing down the forum... lol " I disagree its keeping me amused It’s similar to when I argue with the shopkeeper that a snikers bar is still a marathon | |||
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"and eres me trying to defend women in football only for us men to be accussed of taking the game far to seriously ...lol i rest my case its not serious its much more than that lol its a tribal thing ...right where did i leave my club and loin cloth im close to inventing the wheel here you know lol " lol I meant the woman in a mans world taking the men too seriously | |||
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"whatever next female drivers are better drivers than men ??? statistically they are believe it or not On the day I read that in the paper, I saw a woman driving with her elbows while simultaneous on the phone and holding a coffee." She was slacking, she wasn't putting her mascara on too | |||
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"lol tra as i suspected u stick to your stats and graphs and wall charts hun did u know theres a vacancy going at sky sports since andy the blah blah grays sacking... yrs true footy traditionalist lol I couldn't work for sky. I don't have the required manchestercentric bias ...... lol and u say my prescence here is dumbing down the forum... lol I disagree its keeping me amused It’s similar to when I argue with the shopkeeper that a snikers bar is still a marathon " lol tra trust u to have a go at my typo error wasnt my fault blame me spell checker fook im still walking round with me knuckles scraping on the pavement you know ...i dogmeister your 100% correct lol hmmm so thats why whenever i ask for a marathon the shopkeeper looks at me blankly lol ...still a linesman is a linesman lol ...do they still sell texan bars round yr way use to love them lol | |||
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"Whoa! The testosterone is flying around early! Usually have to wait til pub chucking out time in the evening for this kind of high jinx...and all over a game of footie! I envy you people - honestly I do, I wish all I had to worry about was what name to call a football official! " you don't have to worry about it...we've already established it Assistant Referee | |||
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"Whoa! The testosterone is flying around early! Usually have to wait til pub chucking out time in the evening for this kind of high jinx...and all over a game of footie! I envy you people - honestly I do, I wish all I had to worry about was what name to call a football official! " I think people are getting mixed with the T in the day....it is tuesday not Thursday | |||
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"i do think its getting blown completely out of proportion only because they made the mistake of sayin it in the studio when they thought their mics were off... would all this be happening if they had said it in the pub.... a slap on the wrist and the embarrasment of it all should be more than enuff in my opinion " I take your point. They should have whispered it through a candyflossed pizza base or signed it to each other through the medium of dance and then it would have been okay xxxx THEY ARE GUILTY! THEY WERE HEARD ON MIC .... | |||
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"we had the first femail ref to do a top level game at coventry last year... she did really well but still took the piss.... just like anything new lol... Exactly....the nly problem you have though is how far the women are offended.....most men in football take the piss out of each other, but it becomes sexist if it is a woman. If the women want to work in what is normally a mans work, then surely they want to join in everything. ( I am not taking about this one as they did sound serious and not taking the piss)" Nope. Women don't mind having the piss taken out of them at all. Sexism is not taking the piss out of a person .... It is institutionalised bullying where the scared will attempt to persuade others to exclude people solely on the basis of their gender. Totally different to piss taking of an individual. | |||
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"Andy Gray loves man u pmsl yeah right lol i dont see how or why this should fall into a sexist argument as well both sexes would.. are probably as good or incompetent as each other the argument wouldnt arise if goal line technology was introduced ..eg fat franks goal against germany in last world cup. ..and no this wouldnt fall into the realm of american shit SORKER (soz just cant refer to that "game" as football lol.) Regarding keys and grays comments yeah there comments were outof line but i bet most males managers players in the game share the same thoughts ..just that there mics wernt on ...it is and always will be a male dominated sport and if women want to get involved in whatever capacity women simply need to tune there mind set to rolling with the verbal punches and the art of banter ..and lastly im a man u supporter and supported em back when we were crap so to all you man u haters awwwwww di dums boo hooo come an kiss me white naked arse lol " Why is it so difficult to understand ? Women can and do banter. It makes no difference if their mics were on or off. The comments were sexist and unacceptable. They were heard. Women are atuned to taking flak , banter and rough verbals. NO ONE HAS TO SUFFER SEXISM. Throughtout all three of the threads on here its become clear to me that few people even know what sexism is. Most seem to think it's any negative comment to a woman. It clearly is a lot more. | |||
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"Andy Gray loves man u pmsl yeah right lol i dont see how or why this should fall into a sexist argument as well both sexes would.. are probably as good or incompetent as each other the argument wouldnt arise if goal line technology was introduced ..eg fat franks goal against germany in last world cup. ..and no this wouldnt fall into the realm of american shit SORKER (soz just cant refer to that "game" as football lol.) Regarding keys and grays comments yeah there comments were outof line but i bet most males managers players in the game share the same thoughts ..just that there mics wernt on ...it is and always will be a male dominated sport and if women want to get involved in whatever capacity women simply need to tune there mind set to rolling with the verbal punches and the art of banter ..and lastly im a man u supporter and supported em back when we were crap so to all you man u haters awwwwww di dums boo hooo come an kiss me white naked arse lol Why is it so difficult to understand ? Women can and do banter. It makes no difference if their mics were on or off. The comments were sexist and unacceptable. They were heard. Women are atuned to taking flak , banter and rough verbals. NO ONE HAS TO SUFFER SEXISM. Throughtout all three of the threads on here its become clear to me that few people even know what sexism is. Most seem to think it's any negative comment to a woman. It clearly is a lot more. " So now i guess im notjust ignorant im an ignorant sexist im not in fact either just as well im thick skinned. guess it does make me feel a lil nauseous as sexism cuts both ways i noticed in another post in a forum a woman say about meeting men " i choose to message men rather than be messaged by men, as i like to hunt my meat. Now if a man dared refer to a woman as a piece of meat that man would be verbally hung drawn and quartered but cos its a woman saying its considered funny ???? | |||
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" So now i guess im notjust ignorant im an ignorant sexist im not in fact either just as well im thick skinned. guess it does make me feel a lil nauseous as sexism cuts both ways i noticed in another post in a forum a woman say about meeting men " i choose to message men rather than be messaged by men, as i like to hunt my meat. Now if a man dared refer to a woman as a piece of meat that man would be verbally hung drawn and quartered but cos its a woman saying its considered funny ???? " If that was referring to my comment I actually said I was off to hunt 'my prey' - not 'my meat'. I didnt specify whether my prey was male, or female, or a bit of both... | |||
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"Regarding female officials, can they really do any worse the the male bastards in black lol " Yeah, how many key decisions have been messed up by men over the last 20 years?! | |||
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