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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Just a little nod to all the people dying of starvation and war and abuse and suicide and crime and all the other ways of dying badly who didn't have good lives.

I figured if a guy who just sang in front of a camera died at a relatively ok age is sad then all the misery others go through must be worth a mention.

#celebritymadness

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://youtu.be/Tgcc5V9Hu3g

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Apart from ma mam who died 2 days before ma 7th birthday and ma dad who also sadly joined her when I was 21, I can't think of anything.

Do you have a problem with people posting threads about people who have passed away and might have some sort of influence on their lives?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"https://youtu.be/Tgcc5V9Hu3g"

I don't get it. I was talking about everyone else...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Apart from ma mam who died 2 days before ma 7th birthday and ma dad who also sadly joined her when I was 21, I can't think of anything.

Do you have a problem with people posting threads about people who have passed away and might have some sort of influence on their lives? "

Do you have a problem with people posting threads for everyone else who dies?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from ma mam who died 2 days before ma 7th birthday and ma dad who also sadly joined her when I was 21, I can't think of anything.

Do you have a problem with people posting threads about people who have passed away and might have some sort of influence on their lives?

Do you have a problem with people posting threads for everyone else who dies?"

Post whatever threads you want. I'm sure people are amazed at your compassion ... or not !

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Apart from ma mam who died 2 days before ma 7th birthday and ma dad who also sadly joined her when I was 21, I can't think of anything.

Do you have a problem with people posting threads about people who have passed away and might have some sort of influence on their lives?

Do you have a problem with people posting threads for everyone else who dies?

Post whatever threads you want. I'm sure people are amazed at your compassion ... or not !"

What? Yes how inconsiderate of me to consider everyone else. Out of all the criticisms you could make that's a pretty weak one.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Whilst it may be an interesting discussion OP, along with "why is an actor who is paid millions is valued more worthy of an honour than the 65yr old who has been emptying bins for 50 years" and "who is worth more, the doctor who operates on you, or the cleaner on minimum wage who stops you dying of an infection", many will consider your timing inappropriate and insensitive.

Including me,

sorry

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Whilst it may be an interesting discussion OP, along with "why is an actor who is paid millions is valued more worthy of an honour than the 65yr old who has been emptying bins for 50 years" and "who is worth more, the doctor who operates on you, or the cleaner on minimum wage who stops you dying of an infection", many will consider your timing inappropriate and insensitive.

Including me,

sorry

Mr ddc"

Who cares what people think of me. That's unimportant compared to important things.

That said, I forgive you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from ma mam who died 2 days before ma 7th birthday and ma dad who also sadly joined her when I was 21, I can't think of anything.

Do you have a problem with people posting threads about people who have passed away and might have some sort of influence on their lives?

Do you have a problem with people posting threads for everyone else who dies?

Post whatever threads you want. I'm sure people are amazed at your compassion ... or not !

What? Yes how inconsiderate of me to consider everyone else. Out of all the criticisms you could make that's a pretty weak one."

Oh so sorry I'm not up to your high standards lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whilst it may be an interesting discussion OP, along with "why is an actor who is paid millions is valued more worthy of an honour than the 65yr old who has been emptying bins for 50 years" and "who is worth more, the doctor who operates on you, or the cleaner on minimum wage who stops you dying of an infection", many will consider your timing inappropriate and insensitive.

Including me,

sorry

Mr ddc"

Well said

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Apart from ma mam who died 2 days before ma 7th birthday and ma dad who also sadly joined her when I was 21, I can't think of anything.

Do you have a problem with people posting threads about people who have passed away and might have some sort of influence on their lives?

Do you have a problem with people posting threads for everyone else who dies?

Post whatever threads you want. I'm sure people are amazed at your compassion ... or not !

What? Yes how inconsiderate of me to consider everyone else. Out of all the criticisms you could make that's a pretty weak one.

Oh so sorry I'm not up to your high standards lol"

I accept your apology

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Whilst it may be an interesting discussion OP, along with "why is an actor who is paid millions is valued more worthy of an honour than the 65yr old who has been emptying bins for 50 years" and "who is worth more, the doctor who operates on you, or the cleaner on minimum wage who stops you dying of an infection", many will consider your timing inappropriate and insensitive.

Including me,

sorry

Mr ddc

Well said "

You mean well typed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whilst it may be an interesting discussion OP, along with "why is an actor who is paid millions is valued more worthy of an honour than the 65yr old who has been emptying bins for 50 years" and "who is worth more, the doctor who operates on you, or the cleaner on minimum wage who stops you dying of an infection", many will consider your timing inappropriate and insensitive.

Including me,

sorry

Mr ddc

Well said

You mean well typed"

Don't tell me what i mean ... i mean well said !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whilst it may be an interesting discussion OP, along with "why is an actor who is paid millions is valued more worthy of an honour than the 65yr old who has been emptying bins for 50 years" and "who is worth more, the doctor who operates on you, or the cleaner on minimum wage who stops you dying of an infection", many will consider your timing inappropriate and insensitive.

Including me,

sorry

Mr ddc"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will now leave you to your odd world.

Bye

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Whilst it may be an interesting discussion OP, along with "why is an actor who is paid millions is valued more worthy of an honour than the 65yr old who has been emptying bins for 50 years" and "who is worth more, the doctor who operates on you, or the cleaner on minimum wage who stops you dying of an infection", many will consider your timing inappropriate and insensitive.

Including me,

sorry

Mr ddc

Well said

You mean well typed

Don't tell me what i mean ... i mean well said !"

I can tell you what you mean if I want. You might not like it but I can do it. I won't though now but I could tell you anything technically

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Fuck me, right ray of sunshine in here this morning.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Apart from ma mam who died 2 days before ma 7th birthday and ma dad who also sadly joined her when I was 21, I can't think of anything.

Do you have a problem with people posting threads about people who have passed away and might have some sort of influence on their lives?

Do you have a problem with people posting threads for everyone else who dies?"

Not really, but more people die from whatever causes than you could name per second, than you are able to type out.

Are you able to name them all and did they have an influence on your life?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just your opinion, no one is going to agree with you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He battled cancer for 18 months, it will highlight again what a horrid disease it is. So he will have gone through a lot of suffering and that's why, people feel compassion as his passing. RIP Ziggy Stardust.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So your point is we should feel the loss of all life equally? Im sure most people agree anyone who dies is tragic.

Doesnt matter who it is. Lets not say its madness that we are makrong bowies death. The man was talented and did a lot for those less fortunate x

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Just a little nod to all the people dying of starvation and war and abuse and suicide and crime and all the other ways of dying badly who didn't have good lives.

I figured if a guy who just sang in front of a camera died at a relatively ok age is sad then all the misery others go through must be worth a mention.

#celebritymadness"

You mean I'm restricted to caring about only one death a day? Damn, better choose wisely.

Most people do empathise with the constant tragedy in the world, but famous people impinge more on our consciousness. And you know that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP,if you were so concerned about the death of those from disease, starvation and a host of other things, you would have started a thread on it three days ago, rather than a thread called "Poor Men."

The fact you have chosen to do it today speaks volumes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just your opinion, no one is going to agree with you. "

No-one agrees that it's sad that other people die too who haven't had good lives? Missing the point

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Apart from ma mam who died 2 days before ma 7th birthday and ma dad who also sadly joined her when I was 21, I can't think of anything.

Do you have a problem with people posting threads about people who have passed away and might have some sort of influence on their lives?

Do you have a problem with people posting threads for everyone else who dies?

Not really, but more people die from whatever causes than you could name per second, than you are able to type out.

Are you able to name them all and did they have an influence on your life? "

No

Yes

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just a little nod to all the people dying of starvation and war and abuse and suicide and crime and all the other ways of dying badly who didn't have good lives.

I figured if a guy who just sang in front of a camera died at a relatively ok age is sad then all the misery others go through must be worth a mention.

#celebritymadness

You mean I'm restricted to caring about only one death a day? Damn, better choose wisely.

Most people do empathise with the constant tragedy in the world, but famous people impinge more on our consciousness. And you know that!"

That was my point. It's sad.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I give up

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"OP,if you were so concerned about the death of those from disease, starvation and a host of other things, you would have started a thread on it three days ago, rather than a thread called "Poor Men."

The fact you have chosen to do it today speaks volumes."

I've started 2 other threads about making the world better for people and to end or at least reduce suffering dramatically

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"He battled cancer for 18 months, it will highlight again what a horrid disease it is. So he will have gone through a lot of suffering and that's why, people feel compassion as his passing. RIP Ziggy Stardust. "

Yes the cancer aspect is sad. But I'm sure people would be the same if he had died any other way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just your opinion, no one is going to agree with you.

No-one agrees that it's sad that other people die too who haven't had good lives? Missing the point "

Who's to say he had a good life? Because he was famous and had money? Don't mean shit. Never know what happens behind closed doors. He meant a lot to a lot of people and seems you can't grasp that.

Stop being a drainer and let people mourn for him

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I think people feel more connected to the death of a public figure such as David Bowie and its more shocking because it's someone they "know".

All the other deaths don't go unmentioned though, there was recently a thread about people starving to death in Syria sadly much of its content bears out the ops opinion.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Just let people mourn, he meant a lot to some people for different reasons. OP go back to bed and get up on the right side.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP, don't for one minute assume that anyone in here doesn't have feelings for the millions of people around the world who die in the most dire circumstances and long before their time.

What a Muppet!

I'd like to agree with you but there are a lot of people who don't really care that much"

Ehm, nope, don't believe so.

Anyway, good luck 'stallion'!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Just let people mourn, he meant a lot to some people for different reasons. OP go back to bed and get up on the right side. "

He isn't stopping people mourning Cheeky.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Just let people mourn, he meant a lot to some people for different reasons. OP go back to bed and get up on the right side.

He isn't stopping people mourning Cheeky."

No I know that, wrong wording should really get back to working...

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Just let people mourn, he meant a lot to some people for different reasons. OP go back to bed and get up on the right side.

He isn't stopping people mourning Cheeky.

No I know that, wrong wording should really get back to working..."

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I didn't know that whose death is saddest was a competition.

Nor did I know we are limited to mourning one person at a time.

Interrupting a memorial thread to say the person's death isn't sad or is less sad than someone else's is in poor taste.

There are comments that have a place on a RIP thread and comments which do not.

A thread to discuss why Bowie's death is being openly recognised when those dying from war and poverty around the world, every day, do so in relative obscurity, is fine. Sticking that sort of comment in the memorial thread itself is insensitive and thoughtless.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"OP, don't for one minute assume that anyone in here doesn't have feelings for the millions of people around the world who die in the most dire circumstances and long before their time.

What a Muppet!

I'd like to agree with you but there are a lot of people who don't really care that much

Ehm, nope, don't believe so.

Anyway, good luck 'stallion'!"

You're very naive then

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo

Can people please stop calling others trolls if you don't like what they say.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo

To the OP...I didn't realise it was a competition

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rainbows... Unicorns.. butterflies and glitter... Lots of glitter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any body dying from cancer is terrible no matter how famous they are ,I lost my sister 14 to it ,and friends and other family members,....world starvation has been going on for centuries and so has wars ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Any body dying from cancer is terrible no matter how famous they are ,I lost my sister 14 to it ,and friends and other family members,....world starvation has been going on for centuries and so has wars ... "

Not sure the relevance of saying starvation and wars have been going on for ages as if that makes it ok. I acknowledge the cancer aspect is sad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any body dying from cancer is terrible no matter how famous they are ,I lost my sister 14 to it ,and friends and other family members,....world starvation has been going on for centuries and so has wars ...

Not sure the relevance of saying starvation and wars have been going on for ages as if that makes it ok. I acknowledge the cancer aspect is sad. "

I think the sad face implies its sad that death this way is sad cause it can be prevented.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Any body dying from cancer is terrible no matter how famous they are ,I lost my sister 14 to it ,and friends and other family members,....world starvation has been going on for centuries and so has wars ...

Not sure the relevance of saying starvation and wars have been going on for ages as if that makes it ok. I acknowledge the cancer aspect is sad.

I think the sad face implies its sad that death this way is sad cause it can be prevented."

So can war and starvation. But yes I had already acknowledged the cancer aspect earlier in the thread. It's just that I don't believe most people really care about others suffering in warzones and poverty etc...They will acknowledge a brief moment of "it's a shame", but they have no real passion or fire towards it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any body dying from cancer is terrible no matter how famous they are ,I lost my sister 14 to it ,and friends and other family members,....world starvation has been going on for centuries and so has wars ...

Not sure the relevance of saying starvation and wars have been going on for ages as if that makes it ok. I acknowledge the cancer aspect is sad.

I think the sad face implies its sad that death this way is sad cause it can be prevented.

So can war and starvation. But yes I had already acknowledged the cancer aspect earlier in the thread. It's just that I don't believe most people really care about others suffering in warzones and poverty etc...They will acknowledge a brief moment of "it's a shame", but they have no real passion or fire towards it. "

I didnt mean the cancer i meant war and poverty can be prevented. I dont agree. But what are we supposed to do. We arent giverments here. We donwhat we can and we can cry for every single person that dies. Should we have a dsily minutes silence? Or can you give the rest of the world some credit and say yes they care but they have lives to lead?

Seriously op what wpuld be an appropriate way to acknowledge these deaths for you??

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Any body dying from cancer is terrible no matter how famous they are ,I lost my sister 14 to it ,and friends and other family members,....world starvation has been going on for centuries and so has wars ...

Not sure the relevance of saying starvation and wars have been going on for ages as if that makes it ok. I acknowledge the cancer aspect is sad.

I think the sad face implies its sad that death this way is sad cause it can be prevented.

So can war and starvation. But yes I had already acknowledged the cancer aspect earlier in the thread. It's just that I don't believe most people really care about others suffering in warzones and poverty etc...They will acknowledge a brief moment of "it's a shame", but they have no real passion or fire towards it. "

Some people do, Alan Henning is an example they usually take action rather than talk about it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Any body dying from cancer is terrible no matter how famous they are ,I lost my sister 14 to it ,and friends and other family members,....world starvation has been going on for centuries and so has wars ...

Not sure the relevance of saying starvation and wars have been going on for ages as if that makes it ok. I acknowledge the cancer aspect is sad.

I think the sad face implies its sad that death this way is sad cause it can be prevented.

So can war and starvation. But yes I had already acknowledged the cancer aspect earlier in the thread. It's just that I don't believe most people really care about others suffering in warzones and poverty etc...They will acknowledge a brief moment of "it's a shame", but they have no real passion or fire towards it.

I didnt mean the cancer i meant war and poverty can be prevented. I dont agree. But what are we supposed to do. We arent giverments here. We donwhat we can and we can cry for every single person that dies. Should we have a dsily minutes silence? Or can you give the rest of the world some credit and say yes they care but they have lives to lead?

Seriously op what wpuld be an appropriate way to acknowledge these deaths for you??"

An appropriate way would be for everyone who's able to stand up with some fire in their souls and demand the people in power stop raping the world and sort their shit out. My suggestion has already been talked about (venus Project) but their may be other ideas too. Mass evolution.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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Some people do, Alan Henning is an example they usually take action rather than talk about it."

I don't know that guy but yeh some do which is heart warming

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any body dying from cancer is terrible no matter how famous they are ,I lost my sister 14 to it ,and friends and other family members,....world starvation has been going on for centuries and so has wars ...

Not sure the relevance of saying starvation and wars have been going on for ages as if that makes it ok. I acknowledge the cancer aspect is sad.

I think the sad face implies its sad that death this way is sad cause it can be prevented.

So can war and starvation. But yes I had already acknowledged the cancer aspect earlier in the thread. It's just that I don't believe most people really care about others suffering in warzones and poverty etc...They will acknowledge a brief moment of "it's a shame", but they have no real passion or fire towards it.

I didnt mean the cancer i meant war and poverty can be prevented. I dont agree. But what are we supposed to do. We arent giverments here. We donwhat we can and we can cry for every single person that dies. Should we have a dsily minutes silence? Or can you give the rest of the world some credit and say yes they care but they have lives to lead?

Seriously op what wpuld be an appropriate way to acknowledge these deaths for you??"

I think the implied meaning isn't that we should all mourn these death equally I think its that we shouldn't be mourning bowies death. I think it points to an issue with celebrity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any body dying from cancer is terrible no matter how famous they are ,I lost my sister 14 to it ,and friends and other family members,....world starvation has been going on for centuries and so has wars ...

Not sure the relevance of saying starvation and wars have been going on for ages as if that makes it ok. I acknowledge the cancer aspect is sad.

I think the sad face implies its sad that death this way is sad cause it can be prevented.

So can war and starvation. But yes I had already acknowledged the cancer aspect earlier in the thread. It's just that I don't believe most people really care about others suffering in warzones and poverty etc...They will acknowledge a brief moment of "it's a shame", but they have no real passion or fire towards it.

I didnt mean the cancer i meant war and poverty can be prevented. I dont agree. But what are we supposed to do. We arent giverments here. We donwhat we can and we can cry for every single person that dies. Should we have a dsily minutes silence? Or can you give the rest of the world some credit and say yes they care but they have lives to lead?

Seriously op what wpuld be an appropriate way to acknowledge these deaths for you??

An appropriate way would be for everyone who's able to stand up with some fire in their souls and demand the people in power stop raping the world and sort their shit out. My suggestion has already been talked about (venus Project) but their may be other ideas too. Mass evolution. "

Ok i will put my two young kids to one side and start a revolution to satisfy you op

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


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Some people do, Alan Henning is an example they usually take action rather than talk about it.

I don't know that guy but yeh some do which is heart warming "

You should Google him, I'm quite surprised you don't know of him. He is sadly dead, executed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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Ok i will put my two young kids to one side and start a revolution to satisfy you op "

Well it would be better for everyone including your kids but I said everyone who's able. If you have 2 kids then you wouldn't be able. Although there are other ways like shopping ethically when/if possible, the media we watch, the way we vote etc...

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"Just a little nod to all the people dying of starvation and war and abuse and suicide and crime and all the other ways of dying badly who didn't have good lives.

I figured if a guy who just sang in front of a camera died at a relatively ok age is sad then all the misery others go through must be worth a mention.

#celebritymadness"

You are obviously very compassionate and love all your fellow man judging by your love for all others who suffer and die but is it not just a tad hypocritical to criticise others who post about individuals who may have had a positive influence on aspects of their lives? I would presume you at this moment are referring to David Bowie and while you may not mourn his passing these organisations might do.

21st Century Leaders

Every Mother Counts

Food Bank For New York City

Keep A Child Alive

Mines Advisory Group

Save the Children

The Lunchbox Fund

War Child

Whatever It Takes

Witness

some of the charities and organisations he supported as a humanitarian.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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You should Google him, I'm quite surprised you don't know of him. He is sadly dead, executed."

yeh I'll check it out : )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Ok i will put my two young kids to one side and start a revolution to satisfy you op

Well it would be better for everyone including your kids but I said everyone who's able. If you have 2 kids then you wouldn't be able. Although there are other ways like shopping ethically when/if possible, the media we watch, the way we vote etc..."

I think people do what they can op. Everyone has lives to lead. Im sure some could do more. But we all do it in our own ways.

Theres nothing wrong with being passionate about your cause.perhaps you should go into politics if you wabt to change it.

However word to the wise. You wont win votes or backing by putting a dampner on something people care about and saying other causes are more important. Especially the death of someone well recognised and repsected x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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You are obviously very compassionate and love all your fellow man judging by your love for all others who suffer and die but is it not just a tad hypocritical to criticise others who post about individuals who may have had a positive influence on aspects of their lives? I would presume you at this moment are referring to David Bowie and while you may not mourn his passing these organisations might do.

21st Century Leaders

Every Mother Counts

Food Bank For New York City

Keep A Child Alive

Mines Advisory Group

Save the Children

The Lunchbox Fund

War Child

Whatever It Takes

Witness

some of the charities and organisations he supported as a humanitarian."

It was more about the celebrity aspect more than DB himself really. Not many mentioned the charity type stuff on the RIP threads. Just the singing and entertainment side.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


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I don't know that guy but yeh some do which is heart warming

You should Google him, I'm quite surprised you don't know of him. ."

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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Ok i will put my two young kids to one side and start a revolution to satisfy you op

Well it would be better for everyone including your kids but I said everyone who's able. If you have 2 kids then you wouldn't be able. Although there are other ways like shopping ethically when/if possible, the media we watch, the way we vote etc..."

Although it is possible to do those things and still find it sad that a musician has died.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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I think people do what they can op. Everyone has lives to lead. Im sure some could do more. But we all do it in our own ways.

Theres nothing wrong with being passionate about your cause.perhaps you should go into politics if you wabt to change it.

However word to the wise. You wont win votes or backing by putting a dampner on something people care about and saying other causes are more important. Especially the death of someone well recognised and repsected x"

If only it were true that everyone does what they can. I think most care more about football, xfactor, soaps, getting pissed at the weekend etc... than they do about making the world better. That's why it's in the mess it is.

I would do politics but I don't think they're the answer and lets be honest...it's not sexy.

I have other more outrageous plans that if successful could help TVP a lot financially.

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over a year ago


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You are obviously very compassionate and love all your fellow man judging by your love for all others who suffer and die but is it not just a tad hypocritical to criticise others who post about individuals who may have had a positive influence on aspects of their lives? I would presume you at this moment are referring to David Bowie and while you may not mourn his passing these organisations might do.

21st Century Leaders

Every Mother Counts

Food Bank For New York City

Keep A Child Alive

Mines Advisory Group

Save the Children

The Lunchbox Fund

War Child

Whatever It Takes

Witness

some of the charities and organisations he supported as a humanitarian.

It was more about the celebrity aspect more than DB himself really. Not many mentioned the charity type stuff on the RIP threads. Just the singing and entertainment side."

He was part of peoples lives for his music. People are touched by music and lyrics they are the soundtrack to our lives. Thats why not because he was a celebrity fame is merely a side product.x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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Although it is possible to do those things and still find it sad that a musician has died."

Troo

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over a year ago


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I think people do what they can op. Everyone has lives to lead. Im sure some could do more. But we all do it in our own ways.

Theres nothing wrong with being passionate about your cause.perhaps you should go into politics if you wabt to change it.

However word to the wise. You wont win votes or backing by putting a dampner on something people care about and saying other causes are more important. Especially the death of someone well recognised and repsected x

If only it were true that everyone does what they can. I think most care more about football, xfactor, soaps, getting pissed at the weekend etc... than they do about making the world better. That's why it's in the mess it is.

I would do politics but I don't think they're the answer and lets be honest...it's not sexy.

I have other more outrageous plans that if successful could help TVP a lot financially. "

Most grown ups yes if they can they will. I like to see the good in people. Its not sexy no but thats how you change the world. If your not interested cause its not sexy you really do t care as much as your trying to make out

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over a year ago


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Most grown ups yes if they can they will. I like to see the good in people. Its not sexy no but thats how you change the world. If your not interested cause its not sexy you really do t care as much as your trying to make out"

The not sexy thing was a joke. I just don't believe that most will do things if they can. At best it's just a gesture. I don't think there are many grown ups in this world. Not truly

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


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You are obviously very compassionate and love all your fellow man judging by your love for all others who suffer and die but is it not just a tad hypocritical to criticise others who post about individuals who may have had a positive influence on aspects of their lives? I would presume you at this moment are referring to David Bowie and while you may not mourn his passing these organisations might do.

21st Century Leaders

Every Mother Counts

Food Bank For New York City

Keep A Child Alive

Mines Advisory Group

Save the Children

The Lunchbox Fund

War Child

Whatever It Takes

Witness

some of the charities and organisations he supported as a humanitarian.

It was more about the celebrity aspect more than DB himself really. Not many mentioned the charity type stuff on the RIP threads. Just the singing and entertainment side."

It was you that hashtagged celebrity madness opening the door for the celebrity aspect of Bowies life to be referenced,YOU judged him as celebrity only YOU were the one who initially ignored his humanitarian work so YOU must accept that by choosing to focus on that one aspect of the man that YOU are the one who are surely ignorant to the depth of feeling for the man as a great human being who WILL be missed and mourned.

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


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I think people do what they can op. Everyone has lives to lead. Im sure some could do more. But we all do it in our own ways.

Theres nothing wrong with being passionate about your cause.perhaps you should go into politics if you wabt to change it.

However word to the wise. You wont win votes or backing by putting a dampner on something people care about and saying other causes are more important. Especially the death of someone well recognised and repsected x

If only it were true that everyone does what they can. I think most care more about football, xfactor, soaps, getting pissed at the weekend etc... than they do about making the world better. That's why it's in the mess it is.

I would do politics but I don't think they're the answer and lets be honest...it's not sexy.

I have other more outrageous plans that if successful could help TVP a lot financially. "

May I dare to suggest that if you wish to start a revolution you try to avoid a swingers site as your starting point?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

You are obviously very compassionate and love all your fellow man judging by your love for all others who suffer and die but is it not just a tad hypocritical to criticise others who post about individuals who may have had a positive influence on aspects of their lives? I would presume you at this moment are referring to David Bowie and while you may not mourn his passing these organisations might do.

21st Century Leaders

Every Mother Counts

Food Bank For New York City

Keep A Child Alive

Mines Advisory Group

Save the Children

The Lunchbox Fund

War Child

Whatever It Takes

Witness

some of the charities and organisations he supported as a humanitarian.

It was more about the celebrity aspect more than DB himself really. Not many mentioned the charity type stuff on the RIP threads. Just the singing and entertainment side.

It was you that hashtagged celebrity madness opening the door for the celebrity aspect of Bowies life to be referenced,YOU judged him as celebrity only YOU were the one who initially ignored his humanitarian work so YOU must accept that by choosing to focus on that one aspect of the man that YOU are the one who are surely ignorant to the depth of feeling for the man as a great human being who WILL be missed and mourned."

When someone starts putting things in caps on the internet to demand that YOU must do this and YOU must do that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Most grown ups yes if they can they will. I like to see the good in people. Its not sexy no but thats how you change the world. If your not interested cause its not sexy you really do t care as much as your trying to make out

The not sexy thing was a joke. I just don't believe that most will do things if they can. At best it's just a gesture. I don't think there are many grown ups in this world. Not truly "

Tell us what ypur doing op. Your preaching sounds fantastic but ypu cant judge others for what you yourself dont even practise.

All i know so far is theres a venus project thing you think is a good idea...

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


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You are obviously very compassionate and love all your fellow man judging by your love for all others who suffer and die but is it not just a tad hypocritical to criticise others who post about individuals who may have had a positive influence on aspects of their lives? I would presume you at this moment are referring to David Bowie and while you may not mourn his passing these organisations might do.

21st Century Leaders

Every Mother Counts

Food Bank For New York City

Keep A Child Alive

Mines Advisory Group

Save the Children

The Lunchbox Fund

War Child

Whatever It Takes

Witness

some of the charities and organisations he supported as a humanitarian.

It was more about the celebrity aspect more than DB himself really. Not many mentioned the charity type stuff on the RIP threads. Just the singing and entertainment side.

It was you that hashtagged celebrity madness opening the door for the celebrity aspect of Bowies life to be referenced,YOU judged him as celebrity only YOU were the one who initially ignored his humanitarian work so YOU must accept that by choosing to focus on that one aspect of the man that YOU are the one who are surely ignorant to the depth of feeling for the man as a great human being who WILL be missed and mourned.

When someone starts putting things in caps on the internet to demand that YOU must do this and YOU must do that "

almost as bad as hashtagging eh?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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May I dare to suggest that if you wish to start a revolution you try to avoid a swingers site as your starting point?"

I'm not starting a revolution, it's evolution and for me personally the starting point was back in 2009 in Stourbridge west midlands. A little pub by the town centre.

Anyhoo, swingers are obviously open-minded people so on the other hand it could be the perfect place

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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almost as bad as hashtagging eh?"

Almost but not quite eh?

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


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May I dare to suggest that if you wish to start a revolution you try to avoid a swingers site as your starting point?

I'm not starting a revolution, it's evolution and for me personally the starting point was back in 2009 in Stourbridge west midlands. A little pub by the town centre.

Anyhoo, swingers are obviously open-minded people so on the other hand it could be the perfect place "

if people came on here for that but alas unfortunately for you I do believe that is not the case.

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


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almost as bad as hashtagging eh?

Almost but not quite eh?"

Don't worry I forgive your ignorant hypocrisy x x x enjoy evolving,perhaps you will evolve into someone who can understand why people can mourn an individual who may have had a positive influence on their lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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Tell us what ypur doing op. Your preaching sounds fantastic but ypu cant judge others for what you yourself dont even practise.

All i know so far is theres a venus project thing you think is a good idea..."

I used to go out on the streets around England with a group called The Zeitgeist Movement to promote TVP but then that stopped as some moved away and it didn't really make much difference.

Now my plan is to mix TVP with my new passion....Mixed martial arts. I plan to start training properly this year when I move back to the West Mids and really focus until I can become professional. It's the fastest growing sport in the world as of 2015 so it's a good time to get into it and there is money in it now. So I earn enough to take care of me and my siblings and then I start sending what I earn to TVP. I keep enough to have a decent life for me and siblings but most will go to TVP when that's taken care of. So I'll literally fight for it. And if I do REALLY well then I will have a platform to promote it publicly

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son "

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish

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over a year ago

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish"

any moral high ground you may have had you just lost with that slur.Have a good day and may I just hope that nobody you care for passes any time soon as you will surely be unable to mourn for them individually from your lofty perch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Tell us what ypur doing op. Your preaching sounds fantastic but ypu cant judge others for what you yourself dont even practise.

All i know so far is theres a venus project thing you think is a good idea...

I used to go out on the streets around England with a group called The Zeitgeist Movement to promote TVP but then that stopped as some moved away and it didn't really make much difference.

Now my plan is to mix TVP with my new passion....Mixed martial arts. I plan to start training properly this year when I move back to the West Mids and really focus until I can become professional. It's the fastest growing sport in the world as of 2015 so it's a good time to get into it and there is money in it now. So I earn enough to take care of me and my siblings and then I start sending what I earn to TVP. I keep enough to have a decent life for me and siblings but most will go to TVP when that's taken care of. So I'll literally fight for it. And if I do REALLY well then I will have a platform to promote it publicly "

Well i wish you the best of luck op. I hope your sucessful. There isnt that many people who ever earn enough to give money away though and you need to learn to respect that. I would suggest in future dont force your beliefs on others and you may well be received better.

Unfortunately people remeber here when you act like a....

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over a year ago


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish"

Act like a adult then son

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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Well i wish you the best of luck op. I hope your sucessful. There isnt that many people who ever earn enough to give money away though and you need to learn to respect that. I would suggest in future dont force your beliefs on others and you may well be received better.

Unfortunately people remeber here when you act like a....

"

Yes that's where the focus and self belief is the most important aspect of that.

My life and myself aren't defined by what people on a swingers site think of me so I don't care (in a non insulting way). Thank you for wishing me the best

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it Thursday already

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a little nod to all the people dying of starvation and war and abuse and suicide and crime and all the other ways of dying badly who didn't have good lives.

I figured if a guy who just sang in front of a camera died at a relatively ok age is sad then all the misery others go through must be worth a mention.

#celebritymadness"

It's sad when ANYBODY does. The fact is is that Bowie is relatable to people, people grew up watching and listening to him. He was a lot of people's childhoods. I think it goes without saying that war and starvation etc is much much worse but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to mourn a loss.

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over a year ago


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish

any moral high ground you may have had you just lost with that slur.Have a good day and may I just hope that nobody you care for passes any time soon as you will surely be unable to mourn for them individually from your lofty perch."

I don't need your approval for anything so really don't care what you think of who you think I am

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over a year ago


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish

Act like a adult then son"

Don't tell me how to act. I'm more of an adult than you. I asked you to not call me son and you still did. So you are not acting like an adult.

Why did you call me son when I asked you not to? I have issues with that due to my past.

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish

any moral high ground you may have had you just lost with that slur.Have a good day and may I just hope that nobody you care for passes any time soon as you will surely be unable to mourn for them individually from your lofty perch.

I don't need your approval for anything so really don't care what you think of who you think I am "

where in my statement did I give you my approval?

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish

Act like a adult then son

Don't tell me how to act. I'm more of an adult than you. I asked you to not call me son and you still did. So you are not acting like an adult.

Why did you call me son when I asked you not to? I have issues with that due to my past. "

perhaps try to leave them off site then no?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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It's sad when ANYBODY does. The fact is is that Bowie is relatable to people, people grew up watching and listening to him. He was a lot of people's childhoods. I think it goes without saying that war and starvation etc is much much worse but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to mourn a loss. "

Noted and troo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Tell us what ypur doing op. Your preaching sounds fantastic but ypu cant judge others for what you yourself dont even practise.

All i know so far is theres a venus project thing you think is a good idea...

I used to go out on the streets around England with a group called The Zeitgeist Movement to promote TVP but then that stopped as some moved away and it didn't really make much difference.

Now my plan is to mix TVP with my new passion....Mixed martial arts. I plan to start training properly this year when I move back to the West Mids and really focus until I can become professional. It's the fastest growing sport in the world as of 2015 so it's a good time to get into it and there is money in it now. So I earn enough to take care of me and my siblings and then I start sending what I earn to TVP. I keep enough to have a decent life for me and siblings but most will go to TVP when that's taken care of. So I'll literally fight for it. And if I do REALLY well then I will have a platform to promote it publicly "

Just like David bowie did

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over a year ago


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Well i wish you the best of luck op. I hope your sucessful. There isnt that many people who ever earn enough to give money away though and you need to learn to respect that. I would suggest in future dont force your beliefs on others and you may well be received better.

Unfortunately people remeber here when you act like a....

Yes that's where the focus and self belief is the most important aspect of that.

My life and myself aren't defined by what people on a swingers site think of me so I don't care (in a non insulting way). Thank you for wishing me the best "

Im not offended at all you could call me a bossy ***?!!#$# and like you say i wouldnt care.

Head my advice though the definition of madness is doing the same thing over amd over and expecting a different result. At the moment your style of delivery isnt working so i feel you are creatig angst for yourself x

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over a year ago


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish

any moral high ground you may have had you just lost with that slur.Have a good day and may I just hope that nobody you care for passes any time soon as you will surely be unable to mourn for them individually from your lofty perch.

I don't need your approval for anything so really don't care what you think of who you think I am

where in my statement did I give you my approval? "

You didn't. That's the point. Your lack of approval means nothing to me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Well i wish you the best of luck op. I hope your sucessful. There isnt that many people who ever earn enough to give money away though and you need to learn to respect that. I would suggest in future dont force your beliefs on others and you may well be received better.

Unfortunately people remeber here when you act like a....

Yes that's where the focus and self belief is the most important aspect of that.

My life and myself aren't defined by what people on a swingers site think of me so I don't care (in a non insulting way). Thank you for wishing me the best

Im not offended at all you could call me a bossy ***?!!#$# and like you say i wouldnt care.

Head my advice though the definition of madness is doing the same thing over amd over and expecting a different result. At the moment your style of delivery isnt working so i feel you are creatig angst for yourself x"

When I said I don't care I mean't others who are approaching me in a less mature way. You on the other hand seem cool

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over a year ago

Death is sad & misery to some but can also be a relief to others.

How, when & what happens after is out of that persons control.

If people wish to pay their respect to an individual its usually not at the expense of another.

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over a year ago


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish

Act like a adult then son

Don't tell me how to act. I'm more of an adult than you. I asked you to not call me son and you still did. So you are not acting like an adult.

I'm taking a leaf out of your book

Why did you call me son when I asked you not to? I have issues with that due to my past. "

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Just a little nod to all the people dying of starvation and war and abuse and suicide and crime and all the other ways of dying badly who didn't have good lives.

I figured if a guy who just sang in front of a camera died at a relatively ok age is sad then all the misery others go through must be worth a mention.

#celebritymadness"

Right on, brother

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish

Act like a adult then son

Don't tell me how to act. I'm more of an adult than you. I asked you to not call me son and you still did. So you are not acting like an adult.

I'm taking a leaf out of your book

Why did you call me son when I asked you not to? I have issues with that due to my past. "

Yuk. Creepy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish

Act like a adult then son

Don't tell me how to act. I'm more of an adult than you. I asked you to not call me son and you still did. So you are not acting like an adult.

I'm taking a leaf out of your book

Why did you call me son when I asked you not to? I have issues with that due to my past. "

Come on. You're the big adult. Why did you call me son when I said not to?

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

Ok OP I guess it is not for me to judge you I will let this thread do as it may,be good dude and enjoy your day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We live in a society whish has evolved from the slightly macabre Victorian attitude towards death and then through a period when wars and conflicts cut short the lives of millions in circumstance leaving loved ones little option to morn their passing or rejoice in the achievements of their lives....

We now live in a society where many gain comfort celebrating the lives of famous people who pass and that's not a bad thing,,,,,

But when it become embroiled in distasteful spats of competitive grieving it infers those displaying their emotion are only really bothered about how their reaction will be perceived rather than the person who's actually passed....

You cant measure grief by counting tears...

RIP Mr Bowie....... RIP every soul who passes from this life ,,,,,

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over a year ago


"Maybe when your more mature you will understand son

I'm not you're son. I don't know my dad.

I hate when people say son. It's so patronizing and a bit peado-ish

Act like a adult then son

Don't tell me how to act. I'm more of an adult than you. I asked you to not call me son and you still did. So you are not acting like an adult.

I'm taking a leaf out of your book

Why did you call me son when I asked you not to? I have issues with that due to my past.

Come on. You're the big adult. Why did you call me son when I said not to? "

because your being a knobler

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo

Come on men...be civil and stop with the patronising when asked

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"We live in a society whish has evolved from the slightly macabre Victorian attitude towards death and then through a period when wars and conflicts cut short the lives of millions in circumstance leaving loved ones little option to morn their passing or rejoice in the achievements of their lives....

We now live in a society where many gain comfort celebrating the lives of famous people who pass and that's not a bad thing,,,,,

But when it become embroiled in distasteful spats of competitive grieving it infers those displaying their emotion are only really bothered about how their reaction will be perceived rather than the person who's actually passed....

You cant measure grief by counting tears...

RIP Mr Bowie....... RIP every soul who passes from this life ,,,,, "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ok OP I guess it is not for me to judge you I will let this thread do as it may,be good dude and enjoy your day."

Cool beans, enjoy your day too

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

It's amazing, I never knew that so many of my friends on Facebook were such huge fans of Bowie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Some people do, Alan Henning is an example they usually take action rather than talk about it.

I don't know that guy but yeh some do which is heart warming "

You need to use google!, he's a man who rather than spout of got up and tried to do something.

Perhaps that could be an idea for yourself if you feel so strongly?.

Just out of curiosity did you spend Xmas day with your family?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Come on men...be civil and stop with the patronising when asked "

It's a good opportunity for me to practice my Zen. ; )

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

After reading and removing more....I think it is time to close

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