FabSwingers.com forum: Anti-Islam protest in Germany

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

In Germany today, Police have clashed with anti-Islam protesters.

The protesters took to the streets to vent their anger about the asylum seekers who attacked German women on New Year's day.

Over the past few years, there have been many protests about mass immigration from North Africa and the Middle East by the PEGIDA movement.

People in Germany are frustrated that their country is being invaded by people who neither speak their language nor respect the traditions and social values of Germany.

Has Merkel destroyed Germany with her immigration policy?

Is Donald Trump correct for wanting to ban Muslim asylum seekers from entering America?

What should Britain do about the illegal asylum seekers wanting to enter Britain from Calais?

You decide.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's Saturday night

Can we not talk about old TV programmes or something like that instead ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://youtu.be/rSFZktZNySg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's Saturday night

Can we not talk about old TV programmes or something like that instead ?"

Do you ever miss 'friends' and was it better than the big bang theory?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Mr Garrison cares

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Germany today, Police have clashed with anti-Islam protesters.

The protesters took to the streets to vent their anger about the asylum seekers who attacked German women on New Year's day.

Over the past few years, there have been many protests about mass immigration from North Africa and the Middle East by the PEGIDA movement.

People in Germany are frustrated that their country is being invaded by people who neither speak their language nor respect the traditions and social values of Germany.

Has Merkel destroyed Germany with her immigration policy?

Is Donald Trump correct for wanting to ban Muslim asylum seekers from entering America?

What should Britain do about the illegal asylum seekers wanting to enter Britain from Calais?

You decide."

Anybody wanting to entre Britain illegally should be sent home and made to go through the proper channels like every other asylum seeker who actually gets asylum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Germany today, Police have clashed with anti-Islam protesters.

The protesters took to the streets to vent their anger about the asylum seekers who attacked German women on New Year's day.

Over the past few years, there have been many protests about mass immigration from North Africa and the Middle East by the PEGIDA movement.

People in Germany are frustrated that their country is being invaded by people who neither speak their language nor respect the traditions and social values of Germany.

Has Merkel destroyed Germany with her immigration policy?

Is Donald Trump correct for wanting to ban Muslim asylum seekers from entering America?

What should Britain do about the illegal asylum seekers wanting to enter Britain from Calais?

You decide."

The Germans were happy all the time they could push them through to us.

Poor poor asylum seekers that is all I hear.

Close the borders. Would they help us...... NO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Germany today, Police have clashed with anti-Islam protesters.

The protesters took to the streets to vent their anger about the asylum seekers who attacked German women on New Year's day.

Over the past few years, there have been many protests about mass immigration from North Africa and the Middle East by the PEGIDA movement.

People in Germany are frustrated that their country is being invaded by people who neither speak their language nor respect the traditions and social values of Germany.

Has Merkel destroyed Germany with her immigration policy?

Is Donald Trump correct for wanting to ban Muslim asylum seekers from entering America?

What should Britain do about the illegal asylum seekers wanting to enter Britain from Calais?

You decide."

The only thing that's correct about Donald Trump is....... erm...... ermmmm..... hmmmmm....ermmmmm ...... nope I got nothing,,,......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Friends was a million times better than Big Bang Theory and I'll mud wrestle anyone who disagrees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beat the wall, beat the wall, beat the wall! Ninja Warrior UK rules.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Friends was a million times better than Big Bang Theory and I'll mud wrestle anyone who disagrees. "

Now I am in a quandary

I could do with a wrestle but I do actually agree with you

Humph

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Friends was a million times better than Big Bang Theory and I'll mud wrestle anyone who disagrees. "

Friends was more morally ambiguous, I mean they were on a break weren't they?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

2 threads in 16 hours? Really?

If this bothers you so much, write to your MP and MEP. They are more likely to be able to do something about it than random people on here.

I'm tired of hearing the hatred.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now I am in a quandary

I could do with a wrestle but I do actually agree with you

Humph

Tbqh I'm always game for a wrestle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Germany today, Police have clashed with anti-Islam protesters.

The protesters took to the streets to vent their anger about the asylum seekers who attacked German women on New Year's day.

Over the past few years, there have been many protests about mass immigration from North Africa and the Middle East by the PEGIDA movement.

People in Germany are frustrated that their country is being invaded by people who neither speak their language nor respect the traditions and social values of Germany.

Has Merkel destroyed Germany with her immigration policy?

Is Donald Trump correct for wanting to ban Muslim asylum seekers from entering America?

What should Britain do about the illegal asylum seekers wanting to enter Britain from Calais?

You decide.

The only thing that's correct about Donald Trump is....... erm...... ermmmm..... hmmmmm....ermmmmm ...... nope I got nothing,,,......

I got one, he makes a good character on South Park. Especially when Mr Garrison rapes him to death.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now I am in a quandary

I could do with a wrestle but I do actually agree with you

Humph

Tbqh I'm always game for a wrestle

Bet you win a lot with those power cushions you wield!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bet you win a lot with those power cushions you wield! "

They're really useful for smothering!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Germany today, Police have clashed with anti-Islam protesters.

The protesters took to the streets to vent their anger about the asylum seekers who attacked German women on New Year's day.

Over the past few years, there have been many protests about mass immigration from North Africa and the Middle East by the PEGIDA movement.

People in Germany are frustrated that their country is being invaded by people who neither speak their language nor respect the traditions and social values of Germany.

Has Merkel destroyed Germany with her immigration policy?

Is Donald Trump correct for wanting to ban Muslim asylum seekers from entering America?

What should Britain do about the illegal asylum seekers wanting to enter Britain from Calais?

You decide."

Yawn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bet you win a lot with those power cushions you wield!

They're really useful for smothering!"

Wrestling a girl with big tits: the sport where even when you lose, you still win

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's Saturday night

Can we not talk about old TV programmes or something like that instead ?"

I recommend that you talk about it somewhere else....far away from me because I am not interested in that topic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It will always happened in these times, one said they interviewed that it mirrors the time when hitler come to power, with nationalism increasing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Are you really claiming that you do not have any sympathy for innocent German women who have been attacked by violent asylum seekers. This evidence suggests that you are an unpleasant person.

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By *ogistical NightmaresCouple
over a year ago

Manchester Area

"Friends was a million times better than Big Bang Theory and I'll mud wrestle anyone who disagrees.

Now I am in a quandary

I could do with a wrestle but I do actually agree with you

Humph

What about, Dallas, Dynasty, Knots Landing ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's Saturday night

Can we not talk about old TV programmes or something like that instead ?

Do you ever miss 'friends' and was it better than the big bang theory? "

This topic is not about TV programmes. If you miss a particular TV programme, I strongly suggest that you miss it somewhere else because it does not concern me.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Friends is definitely better than Big Bang Theory.

Even the worst series of Friends (the last one)!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Are you really claiming that you do not have any sympathy for innocent German women who have been attacked by violent asylum seekers. This evidence suggests that you are an unpleasant person.

Were they asylum seekers that attacked them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Germany today, Police have clashed with anti-Islam protesters.

The protesters took to the streets to vent their anger about the asylum seekers who attacked German women on New Year's day.

Over the past few years, there have been many protests about mass immigration from North Africa and the Middle East by the PEGIDA movement.

People in Germany are frustrated that their country is being invaded by people who neither speak their language nor respect the traditions and social values of Germany.

Has Merkel destroyed Germany with her immigration policy?

Is Donald Trump correct for wanting to ban Muslim asylum seekers from entering America?

What should Britain do about the illegal asylum seekers wanting to enter Britain from Calais?

You decide."

Seems a bit rich seeing as It wasn't that long ago that Germans were invading countries where they couldn't speak the language and they couldn't give a fuck about their traditions and social values.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, the way people are exploiting these assaults to make a political point is gross. I'd rather talk about TV and the advantages of massive boobs in mud wrestling than engage with that scare mongering bullshit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Are you really claiming that you do not have any sympathy for innocent German women who have been attacked by violent asylum seekers. This evidence suggests that you are an unpleasant person.

Were they asylum seekers that attacked them?"

It does indeed seem the assumption made. There could not have been a few d*unken German males there as well? Surely not. It was the immigrants, I tell you.

Jeez, the OP needs to get some perspective. Ever seen Brits in Lanzarote? People can be bad irrespective of their country of origin. I don't think Manchester on New Years eve was necessarily a good place to be for a single female.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP, the way people are exploiting these assaults to make a political point is gross. I'd rather talk about TV and the advantages of massive boobs in mud wrestling than engage with that scare mongering bullshit.

I'd agree in mud wresting parlance big boobs are a bit of a handful......

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Why don't you go to Germany and walk past some asylum seekers. If they assault you, I am confident that you will want them punished. I think it is gross the way asylum seekers are exploiting the innocent and kind German women who were attacked.

If you want to talk about TV or boobs, why don't you go to a thread that is about TV or boobs, clearly this is not.

Also, don't inform me of what you want to talk about because it is no concern of mine. Furthermore, I don't care.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you want to talk about TV or boobs, why don't you go to a thread that is about TV or boobs, clearly this is not.

Also, don't inform me of what you want to talk about because it is no concern of mine. Furthermore, I don't care."

OP hiow do you know that these people were asylum seekers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you want to talk about TV or boobs, why don't you go to a thread that is about TV or boobs, clearly this is not.

Also, don't inform me of what you want to talk about because it is no concern of mine. Furthermore, I don't care."

So what's the logical path from 'punishing people that break the law' to 'sending asylum seekers back'?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Are you really claiming that you do not have any sympathy for innocent German women who have been attacked by violent asylum seekers. This evidence suggests that you are an unpleasant person.

Were they asylum seekers that attacked them?"

The women who were attacked and the German police think they were.

I am happy that I have educated you. If you keep on reading my threads, I am confident that your knowledge will improve.

#Read&Learn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bet you win a lot with those power cushions you wield!

They're really useful for smothering!"

Now if ever there was a way to go ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Friends was a million times better than Big Bang Theory and I'll mud wrestle anyone who disagrees.

Now I am in a quandary

I could do with a wrestle but I do actually agree with you

Humph

What about, Dallas, Dynasty, Knots Landing ?

Dynasty

Just because of how camp Joan Collins and Linda Evans bitch fests were

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Deutchland Uber Alles and the sooner the better

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In Germany today, Police have clashed with anti-Islam protesters.

The protesters took to the streets to vent their anger about the asylum seekers who attacked German women on New Year's day.

Over the past few years, there have been many protests about mass immigration from North Africa and the Middle East by the PEGIDA movement.

People in Germany are frustrated that their country is being invaded by people who neither speak their language nor respect the traditions and social values of Germany.

Has Merkel destroyed Germany with her immigration policy?

Is Donald Trump correct for wanting to ban Muslim asylum seekers from entering America?

What should Britain do about the illegal asylum seekers wanting to enter Britain from Calais?

You decide.

Yawn"

From my experience, people from Merseyside normally speak in one syllable words.

#GoBackToSchool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Are you really claiming that you do not have any sympathy for innocent German women who have been attacked by violent asylum seekers. This evidence suggests that you are an unpleasant person.

Were they asylum seekers that attacked them?

The women who were attacked and the German police think they were.

I am happy that I have educated you. If you keep on reading my threads, I am confident that your knowledge will improve.

#Read&Learn

'think they were' or in other words they might be?

Peopla, and I include you in that are using these attacks to stir up hatred.

You can;t tell that someone is an asylum seeker by their ethnicity

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

Friends was much better than big bank! FACT!

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Me too.

Only posting on the thread to try to dilute the racial hatred and bigotry.

Enjoying The Voice tonight. Boy George isn't as annoying as I thought he would be.

Nita

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Are you really claiming that you do not have any sympathy for innocent German women who have been attacked by violent asylum seekers. This evidence suggests that you are an unpleasant person.

Were they asylum seekers that attacked them?

The women who were attacked and the German police think they were.

I am happy that I have educated you. If you keep on reading my threads, I am confident that your knowledge will improve.

#Read&Learn

'think they were' or in other words they might be?

Peopla, and I include you in that are using these attacks to stir up hatred.

You can;t tell that someone is an asylum seeker by their ethnicity"

If it looks like an asylum seeker, talks like an asylum seeker, behaves like an asylum seeker, then it is going to be an asylum seeker rather than a German!

People like you choose to devalue the attacks because you want to pander to the asylum seekers and those people who support them.

Shame on you.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

OP this looks like the sort of thread where the op has already got an agenda and is not open to any other point of view as probably evidenced by your negativity towards others who don't share your they.

That you chose to use a narrow stereotypical cliché about people from Merseyside says a lot.

Open forum ring any bells?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Are you really claiming that you do not have any sympathy for innocent German women who have been attacked by violent asylum seekers. This evidence suggests that you are an unpleasant person.

Were they asylum seekers that attacked them?

The women who were attacked and the German police think they were.

I am happy that I have educated you. If you keep on reading my threads, I am confident that your knowledge will improve.

#Read&Learn

'think they were' or in other words they might be?

Peopla, and I include you in that are using these attacks to stir up hatred.

You can;t tell that someone is an asylum seeker by their ethnicity

If it looks like an asylum seeker, talks like an asylum seeker, behaves like an asylum seeker, then it is going to be an asylum seeker rather than a German!

People like you choose to devalue the attacks because you want to pander to the asylum seekers and those people who support them.

Shame on you."

Gonna explain the logical path from 'punishing people that break the law' to 'sending asylum seekers back' anytime soon?

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"If it looks like an asylum seeker, talks like an asylum seeker, behaves like an asylum seeker, then it is going to be an asylum seeker rather than a German!

How does an asylum seeker behave? By seeking asylum, one assumes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go back to the OPs previous post if you want the immigration argument.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Are you really claiming that you do not have any sympathy for innocent German women who have been attacked by violent asylum seekers. This evidence suggests that you are an unpleasant person.

Were they asylum seekers that attacked them?

The women who were attacked and the German police think they were.

I am happy that I have educated you. If you keep on reading my threads, I am confident that your knowledge will improve.

#Read&Learn

'think they were' or in other words they might be?

Peopla, and I include you in that are using these attacks to stir up hatred.

You can;t tell that someone is an asylum seeker by their ethnicity

If it looks like an asylum seeker, talks like an asylum seeker, behaves like an asylum seeker, then it is going to be an asylum seeker rather than a German!

People like you choose to devalue the attacks because you want to pander to the asylum seekers and those people who support them.

Shame on you."

What does an asylum seeker look and act like?

And how or when did I devalue the attacks (whatever that means)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Friends was much better than big bank! FACT! "

And when watching the repeats it still is

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Go back to the OPs previous post if you want the immigration argument."

Ty. As I thought another bigot on the site..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"2 threads in 16 hours? Really?

If this bothers you so much, write to your MP and MEP. They are more likely to be able to do something about it than random people on here.

I'm tired of hearing the hatred."
.

Technically your reading it! Not hearing it, unless you've got one of those nifty machines that reads text, in which case ignore me

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Friends was much better than big bank! FACT!

And when watching the repeats it still is"

Indeed. The one where no one's ready is the best episode I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Are you really claiming that you do not have any sympathy for innocent German women who have been attacked by violent asylum seekers. This evidence suggests that you are an unpleasant person.

Were they asylum seekers that attacked them?

It does indeed seem the assumption made. There could not have been a few d*unken German males there as well? Surely not. It was the immigrants, I tell you.

No... I was there!

It was brilliant!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Friends was much better than big bank! FACT!

And when watching the repeats it still is

Indeed. The one where no one's ready is the best episode I think "

Nah the one with Rachels letter is funnier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Friends was much better than big bank! FACT!

And when watching the repeats it still is

Indeed. The one where no one's ready is the best episode I think "

When Joey puts all of chandlers clothes on

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Friends was much better than big bank! FACT!

And when watching the repeats it still is

Indeed. The one where no one's ready is the best episode I think

When Joey puts all of chandlers clothes on

My names chandler.. Could I BE wearing any more clothes???

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Friends was much better than big bank! FACT!

And when watching the repeats it still is

Indeed. The one where no one's ready is the best episode I think

Nah the one with Rachels letter is funnier"

FRONT AND BACK!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, the guy who assaulted me years ago was white. By your logic, I should hate white men. Hmm.

I'm watching Die Hard 3, aka the best Die Hard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil!.

For somebody who's convinced utopia will never exist, surely you realise that for every million people let in, then a certain % of them will murder and rape!.

I suppose it's just one of those things!.

For every good deed somebody gets fucked over, so long as it's not me!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil!.

For somebody who's convinced utopia will never exist, surely you realise that for every million people let in, then a certain % of them will murder and rape!.

I suppose it's just one of those things!.

For every good deed somebody gets fucked over, so long as it's not me!.

Some of the logic on this thread doesn't really distinguish between "Jews who break the law should be sent to prison" and "some Jews break the law so all Jews should be sent to camps"

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"In Germany today, Police have clashed with anti-Islam protesters.

The protesters took to the streets to vent their anger about the asylum seekers who attacked German women on New Year's day.

Over the past few years, there have been many protests about mass immigration from North Africa and the Middle East by the PEGIDA movement.

People in Germany are frustrated that their country is being invaded by people who neither speak their language nor respect the traditions and social values of Germany.

Has Merkel destroyed Germany with her immigration policy?

Is Donald Trump correct for wanting to ban Muslim asylum seekers from entering America?

What should Britain do about the illegal asylum seekers wanting to enter Britain from Calais?

You decide."
. In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

The infrastructure and NHS are already struggling to cope with the large recent. Influxes from various new EU members .

The events in Germany are an indication of what could happen here ..

Driving through Calais is a nightmare for lorry drivers and haulage companies .

Everyone should be treated equally and that includes taking into account the current needs of those resident in Britain ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some of the logic on this thread doesn't really distinguish between "Jews who break the law should be sent to prison" and "some Jews break the law so all Jews should be sent to camps" "

*hugs you for this, boobily*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

The infrastructure and NHS are already struggling to cope with the large recent. Influxes from various new EU members .

The events in Germany are an indication of what could happen here ..

Driving through Calais is a nightmare for lorry drivers and haulage companies .

Everyone should be treated equally and that includes taking into account the current needs of those resident in Britain .."

It's always interesting when the people who advocate that we should do more bombing in the countries that asylum seekers are fleeing are the same people who advocate sending asylum seekers back to their country of origin.

What was that link again?

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?"
. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax."

Do you know what the assessment process is? How and why is it lax?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil!.

For somebody who's convinced utopia will never exist, surely you realise that for every million people let in, then a certain % of them will murder and rape!.

I suppose it's just one of those things!.

For every good deed somebody gets fucked over, so long as it's not me!.

Some of the logic on this thread doesn't really distinguish between "Jews who break the law should be sent to prison" and "some Jews break the law so all Jews should be sent to camps" "
.

Ahh your just big a left wing wannabe after all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil!.

For somebody who's convinced utopia will never exist, surely you realise that for every million people let in, then a certain % of them will murder and rape!.

I suppose it's just one of those things!.

For every good deed somebody gets fucked over, so long as it's not me!.

Some of the logic on this thread doesn't really distinguish between "Jews who break the law should be sent to prison" and "some Jews break the law so all Jews should be sent to camps" .

Ahh your just big a left wing wannabe after all"

Actually we could start another thread where I argue Hitler was left wing, not right. In the absence of that I refer the honourable gentleman to Ricky Gervais sketch of Hitler meeting Nietzsche

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over a year ago

Let's all hold hands and drop them borders!.

Everything will be just spithing

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax."

Your not going by the daily mail again are you Pat?

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

Do you know what the assessment process is? How and why is it lax?"
. I do not know much about the procedure but events in Calais and Germany plus crimes committed in the UK are sufficient to convince me that it needs to be tightened up.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

The infrastructure and NHS are already struggling to cope with the large recent. Influxes from various new EU members .

The events in Germany are an indication of what could happen here ..

Driving through Calais is a nightmare for lorry drivers and haulage companies .

Everyone should be treated equally and that includes taking into account the current needs of those resident in Britain ..

What was that link again?

"
. It might be that those who advocate bombing want long term solutions to a problem and are keen to create an atmosphere where refugees can return safely to their native country.

Bombing is not an issue which anyone would take lightly .

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

Do you know what the assessment process is? How and why is it lax?. I do not know much about the procedure but events in Calais and Germany plus crimes committed in the UK are sufficient to convince me that it needs to be tightened up. "

Those in Calais have not been through the asylum process? And as no one has been charged in Germany assuming that they have or are about to be assessed is naive.

What percentage of crimes are committed by those granted asylum in the UK?

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over a year ago

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

So to clarify, something that happened in Germany and refugees in Calais that can't get in to the UK are your evidence for the UK needs to improve it's screening of asylum seekers?

And are asylum seekers in the UK responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime? And even if they are, how do you propose assessing how likely someone is to commit crime in the future?

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over a year ago

Has Merkel destroyed Germany with her immigration policy?

No, But I don't think Germany will be letting the same amount of numbers of people in anytime soon.

Is Donald Trump correct for wanting to ban Muslim asylum seekers from entering America?

No that's just stupid, If people are going as far as setting bombs off and trying to kill people they will find away to get in any country.

What should Britain do about the illegal asylum seekers wanting to enter Britain from Calais?

Spend a little more money reinforcing the boarders, With the help of France and other European countries find a solution to Stopping them stetting up camp in Calais and thinking Britain is their only option for a better life.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

The infrastructure and NHS are already struggling to cope with the large recent. Influxes from various new EU members .

The events in Germany are an indication of what could happen here ..

Driving through Calais is a nightmare for lorry drivers and haulage companies .

Everyone should be treated equally and that includes taking into account the current needs of those resident in Britain ..

What was that link again?

. It might be that those who advocate bombing want long term solutions to a problem and are keen to create an atmosphere where refugees can return safely to their native country.

Bombing is not an issue which anyone would take lightly . "

You said you want them returned now.

How long do you think the bombs that you want to be dropped on Syria are going to take before they cause Syria to magically rebuild itself for the asylum seekers that you want sent back now?

You don't seem to have put much thought into this.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

Those in Calais have not been through the asylum process? And as no one has been charged in Germany assuming that they have or are about to be assessed is naive.

What percentage of crimes are committed by those granted asylum in the UK? "
. I don't think anyone will be charged in Germany as the situation got totally out of control and there were insufficient police to handle it . Girls celebrating the new year were separated and surrounded by groups of men who did not speak languages which they could understand . They were molested and groped . It is hardly a situation which bodes well for the future ..

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

The infrastructure and NHS are already struggling to cope with the large recent. Influxes from various new EU members .

The events in Germany are an indication of what could happen here ..

Driving through Calais is a nightmare for lorry drivers and haulage companies .

Everyone should be treated equally and that includes taking into account the current needs of those resident in Britain ..

What was that link again?

. It might be that those who advocate bombing want long term solutions to a problem and are keen to create an atmosphere where refugees can return safely to their native country.

Bombing is not an issue which anyone would take lightly .

You said you want them returned now.

How long do you think the bombs that you want to be dropped on Syria are going to take before they cause Syria to magically rebuild itself for the asylum seekers that you want sent back now?

You don't seem to have put much thought into this."
. There is no easy solution to these issues . If there were someone would have suggested it by now .

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over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Mr Garrison cares"

Who?

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over a year ago

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

Those in Calais have not been through the asylum process? And as no one has been charged in Germany assuming that they have or are about to be assessed is naive.

What percentage of crimes are committed by those granted asylum in the UK? . I don't think anyone will be charged in Germany as the situation got totally out of control and there were insufficient police to handle it . Girls celebrating the new year were separated and surrounded by groups of men who did not speak languages which they could understand . They were molested and groped . It is hardly a situation which bodes well for the future .."

It's a horrid event. But I still donlt see how it is evidence the UK needs to tighten up it's assessment process

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over a year ago

Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

The infrastructure and NHS are already struggling to cope with the large recent. Influxes from various new EU members .

The events in Germany are an indication of what could happen here ..

Driving through Calais is a nightmare for lorry drivers and haulage companies .

Everyone should be treated equally and that includes taking into account the current needs of those resident in Britain ..

What was that link again?

. It might be that those who advocate bombing want long term solutions to a problem and are keen to create an atmosphere where refugees can return safely to their native country.

Bombing is not an issue which anyone would take lightly .

You said you want them returned now.

How long do you think the bombs that you want to be dropped on Syria are going to take before they cause Syria to magically rebuild itself for the asylum seekers that you want sent back now?

You don't seem to have put much thought into this.. There is no easy solution to these issues . If there were someone would have suggested it by now . "

You have made two suggestions:

1) Drop bombs in Syria

2) Send asylum seekers back to Syria

Both sound like easy solutions, if you don't think to hard about what they really mean.

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over a year ago

"In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

The infrastructure and NHS are already struggling to cope with the large recent. Influxes from various new EU members .

The events in Germany are an indication of what could happen here ..

Driving through Calais is a nightmare for lorry drivers and haulage companies .

Everyone should be treated equally and that includes taking into account the current needs of those resident in Britain ..

What was that link again?

. It might be that those who advocate bombing want long term solutions to a problem and are keen to create an atmosphere where refugees can return safely to their native country.

Bombing is not an issue which anyone would take lightly .

You said you want them returned now.

How long do you think the bombs that you want to be dropped on Syria are going to take before they cause Syria to magically rebuild itself for the asylum seekers that you want sent back now?

You don't seem to have put much thought into this.. There is no easy solution to these issues . If there were someone would have suggested it by now . "

Do you think that it is right to send people back to a warzone that UK is bombing?

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over a year ago

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre."
.

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!"

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years.

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over a year ago

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

Those in Calais have not been through the asylum process? And as no one has been charged in Germany assuming that they have or are about to be assessed is naive.

Could had been a stag party from Liverpool

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

Those in Calais have not been through the asylum process? And as no one has been charged in Germany assuming that they have or are about to be assessed is naive.

Think it's safe to assume that everyone on here will agree it was wrong what happened and charges should be brought against those responsible.

Saying our own asylum process is lax as some sort of factor in what happened is bizarre and not thought through.

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over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Are you really claiming that you do not have any sympathy for innocent German women who have been attacked by violent asylum seekers. This evidence suggests that you are an unpleasant person.

If it's really fucking true then yeah! I do. I'm so bored of hearing this rubbish. At this moment, in time, I think Governments will do or say ANYTHING to paint coloured and Muslim people in bad light. That's my opinion.

I tell you what! Bring up a thread about the thousands of murdered Palestinians!

Stop fuelling and supporting white wash stories, yeah?

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over a year ago

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years."

Precisely. In any group of people there are a minority of criminals, doesn't mean you should lock everyone up.

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over a year ago

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!"

How was what happened in Cologne predictable?

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over a year ago

"YAWN!!!! Who cares...not me. Sick to death of hearing about immigration and blah blah blah.

Mr Garrison cares

Who? "

A character on South Park famous for representing the views in the original post...

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over a year ago

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years."
.

Yes i realise that crimes between citizens have been going on quite a bit.

There's not alot you can do about it though!

Like I couldn't predict a series of events would lead to the murder of that EastEnders actress and her kids.

However I can predict now with absolute certainty, that if you let in 20,000 immigrants a certain % will rape and murder, these people that get raped and murdererd would not have been if you hadn't taken that action of letting them in!

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

So to clarify, something that happened in Germany and refugees in Calais that can't get in to the UK are your evidence for the UK needs to improve it's screening of asylum seekers?

And are asylum seekers in the UK responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime? And even if they are, how do you propose assessing how likely someone is to commit crime in the future?"
. In Germany in the state of Baden- Wurttemberg asylum seekers represent one percent of the population but committed five percent of all registered crimes . Of these 27255 crimes , 1000 were GBH , 22 attempted murders , and 700 of domestic burglary.

Germany estimates that ten percent of migrants will turn to crime including theft , sexual assault and drug dealing .

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years..

Yes i realise that crimes between citizens have been going on quite a bit.

There's not alot you can do about it though!

Like I couldn't predict a series of events would lead to the murder of that EastEnders actress and her kids.

So you are suggesting that we shouldn't offer refuge to people fleeing conflicts (that we have helped to create, incidentally, not that it matters), just in case some of them are criminals?

I'm guessing that's not what you mean, because that would make no sense.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

So to clarify, something that happened in Germany and refugees in Calais that can't get in to the UK are your evidence for the UK needs to improve it's screening of asylum seekers?

And are asylum seekers in the UK responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime? And even if they are, how do you propose assessing how likely someone is to commit crime in the future?. In Germany in the state of Baden- Wurttemberg asylum seekers represent one percent of the population but committed five percent of all registered crimes . Of these 27255 crimes , 1000 were GBH , 22 attempted murders , and 700 of domestic burglary.

Germany estimates that ten percent of migrants will turn to crime including theft , sexual assault and drug dealing . "

The solution is easy then - only let the 90% in who aren't going to commit any crimes.

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over a year ago

" In Britain we should send asylum seekers back to their country of origin . We have no means of knowing if their claims are genuine

You do know asylum seekers are assessed and not all are granted asylum?. I am aware of that yes . However the assessment process seems very lax.

So to clarify, something that happened in Germany and refugees in Calais that can't get in to the UK are your evidence for the UK needs to improve it's screening of asylum seekers?

And are asylum seekers in the UK responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime? And even if they are, how do you propose assessing how likely someone is to commit crime in the future?. In Germany in the state of Baden- Wurttemberg asylum seekers represent one percent of the population but committed five percent of all registered crimes . Of these 27255 crimes , 1000 were GBH , 22 attempted murders , and 700 of domestic burglary.

Germany estimates that ten percent of migrants will turn to crime including theft , sexual assault and drug dealing . "

And what about in the UK?

Oh and migrants and asylum seekers aren;lt the same thing

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over a year ago

"However I can predict now with absolute certainty, that if you let in 20,000 immigrants a certain % will rape and murder, these people that get raped and murdererd would not have been if you hadn't taken that action of letting them in!"

That isn't really saying anything though. A certain percentage of all babies will grow up to be rapists and murderers too, so what do you proposee we do about them?

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over a year ago

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years..

Yes i realise that crimes between citizens have been going on quite a bit.

There's not alot you can do about it though!

Like I couldn't predict a series of events would lead to the murder of that EastEnders actress and her kids.

So you are suggesting that we shouldn't offer refuge to people fleeing conflicts (that we have helped to create, incidentally, not that it matters), just in case some of them are criminals?

I'm guessing that's not what you mean, because that would make no sense."
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I'm suggesting that it's easy for you to say, because your you!.

Try being a raped women and get back to me with your idealism!.

You wanna belive that nothing bad will come of it, that's fine, but the evidence suggests otherwise

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over a year ago

That isn't really saying anything though. A certain percentage of all babies will grow up to be rapists and murderers too, so what do you proposee we do about them?"
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Nothing, it's a problem I can't do anything about!

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over a year ago

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years..

Yes i realise that crimes between citizens have been going on quite a bit.

There's not alot you can do about it though!

Like I couldn't predict a series of events would lead to the murder of that EastEnders actress and her kids.

So you are suggesting that we shouldn't offer refuge to people fleeing conflicts (that we have helped to create, incidentally, not that it matters), just in case some of them are criminals?

I'm guessing that's not what you mean, because that would make no sense..

I'm suggesting that it's easy for you to say, because your you!.

Try being a raped women and get back to me with your idealism!.

You wanna belive that nothing bad will come of it, that's fine, but the evidence suggests otherwise"

Thats a strange outlook if im honest..its like saying im not going to cross the road because i might get run over

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over a year ago

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years..

Yes i realise that crimes between citizens have been going on quite a bit.

There's not alot you can do about it though!

Like I couldn't predict a series of events would lead to the murder of that EastEnders actress and her kids.

So you are suggesting that we shouldn't offer refuge to people fleeing conflicts (that we have helped to create, incidentally, not that it matters), just in case some of them are criminals?

I'm guessing that's not what you mean, because that would make no sense..

I'm suggesting that it's easy for you to say, because your you!.

Try being a raped women and get back to me with your idealism!.

You wanna belive that nothing bad will come of it, that's fine, but the evidence suggests otherwise"

I'll be hionest, I don;t think you (and others on this thread) actually care that much about victims of sex crime. You are just using it the fact that it is emotive to try and tar millions of people with the same brush.

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over a year ago

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years..

Yes i realise that crimes between citizens have been going on quite a bit.

There's not alot you can do about it though!

Like I couldn't predict a series of events would lead to the murder of that EastEnders actress and her kids.

So you are suggesting that we shouldn't offer refuge to people fleeing conflicts (that we have helped to create, incidentally, not that it matters), just in case some of them are criminals?

I'm guessing that's not what you mean, because that would make no sense..

I'm suggesting that it's easy for you to say, because your you!.

Try being a raped women and get back to me with your idealism!.

You wanna belive that nothing bad will come of it, that's fine, but the evidence suggests otherwise

Thats a strange outlook if im honest..its like saying im not going to cross the road because i might get run over

"
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No it's more like I'm crossing a quiet road and you want me to cross a motorway instead!

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over a year ago

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years..

Yes i realise that crimes between citizens have been going on quite a bit.

There's not alot you can do about it though!

Like I couldn't predict a series of events would lead to the murder of that EastEnders actress and her kids.

So you are suggesting that we shouldn't offer refuge to people fleeing conflicts (that we have helped to create, incidentally, not that it matters), just in case some of them are criminals?

I'm guessing that's not what you mean, because that would make no sense..

I'm suggesting that it's easy for you to say, because your you!.

Try being a raped women and get back to me with your idealism!.

You wanna belive that nothing bad will come of it, that's fine, but the evidence suggests otherwise

Ahh so it's OK for you to generalise but not us?.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years..

Yes i realise that crimes between citizens have been going on quite a bit.

There's not alot you can do about it though!

Like I couldn't predict a series of events would lead to the murder of that EastEnders actress and her kids.

So you are suggesting that we shouldn't offer refuge to people fleeing conflicts (that we have helped to create, incidentally, not that it matters), just in case some of them are criminals?

I'm guessing that's not what you mean, because that would make no sense..

I'm suggesting that it's easy for you to say, because your you!.

Try being a raped women and get back to me with your idealism!.

You wanna belive that nothing bad will come of it, that's fine, but the evidence suggests otherwise"

It's easy for me to say, because I am thinking about the issue.

Of course some bad things are likely to happen in the future. But so what?

We have a responsibility to help people fleeing conflict, especially when we are responsible for the causes of those conflicts. Performing the right humanitarian actions come first, always, and there is no debate to be had otherwise.

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over a year ago

"I'll be hionest, I don;t think you (and others on this thread) actually care that much about victims of sex crime. You are just using it the fact that it is emotive to try and tar millions of people with the same brush."

You're absolutely right. The way people are exploiting someone's rape to try to justify their xenophobic politics is gross.

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over a year ago

"Pat, the same thing happened to a friend of mine by a group of white men in Durham city centre..

That's not quite the same though is it!.

That's a crime that we couldn't predict!

Why not? White men have been attacking women in Durham for hundreds of years..

Yes i realise that crimes between citizens have been going on quite a bit.

There's not alot you can do about it though!

Like I couldn't predict a series of events would lead to the murder of that EastEnders actress and her kids.

So you are suggesting that we shouldn't offer refuge to people fleeing conflicts (that we have helped to create, incidentally, not that it matters), just in case some of them are criminals?

I'm guessing that's not what you mean, because that would make no sense..

I'm suggesting that it's easy for you to say, because your you!.

Try being a raped women and get back to me with your idealism!.

You wanna belive that nothing bad will come of it, that's fine, but the evidence suggests otherwise

Thats a strange outlook if im honest..its like saying im not going to cross the road because i might get run over

No it's more like I'm crossing a quiet road and you want me to cross a motorway instead!"

Nah i think the chances of it ever happening are very very small indeed...theres 70 million people in this country....and miles and miles of roads...its a very weird outlook i think

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over a year ago

You're absolutely right. The way people are exploiting someone's rape to try to justify their xenophobic politics is gross."

I hope you're not implying that burning the Reichstag isn't a serious crime that must be punished?