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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield

How do you make make fab fairer for everyone?

Women complain about being inundated with messages, men complain about not getting replies and finding it difficult to meet.

Do fab make it harder for men to join by increasing subscriptions?

Take sanctions against people who don't reply to messages or meet, i.e social or chat only? Put better filters in place or just put custom sections in so that people can decide exactly what part they want to be in. Finally the people who cancell meets on a regular (time wasters) 3 strikes they are out or perhaps their own section so they can waste each others time? Yeah and i know everyone does have a genuine emergency. Your thoughts please or do you just think I'm a twat?

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"[Removed by poster at 09/01/16 12:53:05]"

Definitely a twat

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Why should Fab change?

It's a platform people can use as they see fit. If people aren't getting the results they want, it's up to them to change the way they do things.

What do you mean by fair anyway?

A lot of the most successful people on here agree you get put what you put in. A lot of the moaners put in very little but maintain high expectations.

I don't think it's the job of the site to make things "fair", whatever that means.

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"[Removed by poster at 09/01/16 12:53:05]

Definitely a twat "

Ah just say it as it is!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It works very well, thanks for your concern though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stop men from being able to mail so the women would have to go looking instead.

Imagine the angst....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stop men from being able to mail so the women would have to go looking instead.

Imagine the angst.... "

Lol!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more. "

I've found that fab is a tool to be used in conjunction with the swinging lifestyle.

Its up to you to go out and make it work, its not a communist site where you will receive equal sexual contact according to your membership level.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

It works just fine. No one is entitled to a reply to a message, there are message filters to exclude people by gender and age. A verification system, which whilst not perfect, is a good indicator.

Maybe fab isn't for you - you are of course at liberty to start your own site with your own rules - good luck with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fab works fine for plenty of people. Learn to make it work for you. And maybe rather than a sense of entitlement accept that for many single men fab is not going to give them what they want

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more. "

Never said it didn't work for me!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Stop men from being able to mail so the women would have to go looking instead.

Imagine the angst.... "

That should be done for a week...no, a month, as a social experiment.

I've got men filtered and am doing my own looking so I'd be ok.

It does make my profile a bit confusing for men though. It says I'm looking for men but because I have them filtered it also says "not looking for single men".

I am though. It should say not accepting messages from new men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What has gender got to do with subscriptions. Basic membership is free for everyone.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!"

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What has gender got to do with subscriptions. Basic membership is free for everyone."

Ok that'll teach me for scan reading.

Membership is fine as it is.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Fab works fine for plenty of people. Learn to make it work for you. And maybe rather than a sense of entitlement accept that for many single men fab is not going to give them what they want"

That goes for women too. Some women also don't find what they want. I expect some couples experience much the same.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Why does it have to be fair? Life isn't fair

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys


"How do you make make fab fairer for everyone?

Women complain about being inundated with messages, men complain about not getting replies and finding it difficult to meet.

Do fab make it harder for men to join by increasing subscriptions?

Take sanctions against people who don't reply to messages or meet, i.e social or chat only? Put better filters in place or just put custom sections in so that people can decide exactly what part they want to be in. Finally the people who cancell meets on a regular (time wasters) 3 strikes they are out or perhaps their own section so they can waste each others time? Yeah and i know everyone does have a genuine emergency. Your thoughts please or do you just think I'm a twat?"

take it your not happy O P

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair."

Somehow I get the strong impression that the OP is not campaigning selflessly on behalf of others...

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By *eliciousladyWoman
over a year ago

Sometimes U.K


"Stop men from being able to mail so the women would have to go looking instead.

"

I have been known to mail a male or 2..

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair."

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"[Removed by poster at 09/01/16 12:53:05]

Definitely a twat

Ah just say it as it is!"

You did ask

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair."

Thank you M'Lady. Wasn't trying to be snotty, just trying to suggest an 'adapt to overcome' method.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Why does it have to be fair? Life isn't fair "

I'm bloody glad Fab isn't fair. I'd only get to shag fat, average-looking blokes if it were...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stop men from being able to mail so the women would have to go looking instead.

Imagine the angst....

That should be done for a week...no, a month, as a social experiment.

I've got men filtered and am doing my own looking so I'd be ok.

It does make my profile a bit confusing for men though. It says I'm looking for men but because I have them filtered it also says "not looking for single men".

I am though. It should say not accepting messages from new men."

I don't bother blocking men, I just delete them off the 'looking for' list so it takes me off the searches. The rest just find me via the forum or 'women online'. It makes my inbox mighty tidy.

Having a minimal (crap) profile also helps.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying"

Voting system??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does it have to be fair? Life isn't fair

I'm bloody glad Fab isn't fair. I'd only get to shag fat, average-looking blokes if it were...

"

Chuck them my way please!

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"Stop men from being able to mail so the women would have to go looking instead.

Imagine the angst....

That should be done for a week...no, a month, as a social experiment.

I've got men filtered and am doing my own looking so I'd be ok.

It does make my profile a bit confusing for men though. It says I'm looking for men but because I have them filtered it also says "not looking for single men".

I am though. It should say not accepting messages from new men."

Hooray something constructive well done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying"

fabguys already exists. Why do we need other sections? Why does fab have to accomodate anyone and everyone? It's a swingers site. And while the site and scene have evolved (and that's not a bad thing), swinging is still fundamentally an activity centred around group sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying"

Fabguys already exists. Fabgirls is a non-starter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more. "

Oooh! I'm punching that as my word for the day!

Conduit!

Now I just have to work out how to get it in a conversation!

Thanks HH!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying"

You specifically mention men not getting replies to messages and meets as examples of what isn't fair though.

That's strongly indicative that those are your experiences which you find unfair and which you think the site should act to improve.

As mentioned above, I doubt this is a selfless act of campaigning against any perceived unfairness to others.

Is it fair you won't get as many offers of meets as a 30/40 yr old man with a smoking hot body? You probably think not but life isn't fair and it's not up to the site to fix that for you.

Sex isn't an entitlement. You're not owed the same amount, and no more, as everyone else gets.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

This site works well for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fab works fine for plenty of people. Learn to make it work for you. And maybe rather than a sense of entitlement accept that for many single men fab is not going to give them what they want

That goes for women too. Some women also don't find what they want. I expect some couples experience much the same."

Of course, but I do think that for singlemen this site is not the best way of seeking out lots of sex, particularly if you are primarily or solely looking for 1 on 1 meets.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Oooh! I'm punching that as my word for the day!

Conduit!

Now I just have to work out how to get it in a conversation!

Thanks HH! "

New message to bloke:

Hi (name), fancy availing yourself of my conduit?

HTH

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Oooh! I'm punching that as my word for the day!

Conduit!

Now I just have to work out how to get it in a conversation!

Thanks HH! "

Don't you mean you need a conduit for it into the conversation?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Life ain't fair sweetie pie!! No reason for anyone to moan about anything apart from to gain attention, like a kid having a hissy fit because they can't get what they want. Fab give you all the tools you need to run your profile as you so wish and I for one have used them all. I have and never will have anything to moan about. My profile set up works perfectly.

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"[Removed by poster at 09/01/16 12:53:05]

Definitely a twat

Ah just say it as it is!

You did ask "

Can't do anything right me. That's it I'm taking myself off to the nawty step for a sulk

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I use the site the way I want to, and its working for me. I don't get 100s of messages, and I meet single men, so if others struggle I reckon its just tough tits.

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By *ardcore28Man
over a year ago

glasgow

some people on here need to get a life

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Fab works fine for plenty of people. Learn to make it work for you. And maybe rather than a sense of entitlement accept that for many single men fab is not going to give them what they want

That goes for women too. Some women also don't find what they want. I expect some couples experience much the same.

Of course, but I do think that for singlemen this site is not the best way of seeking out lots of sex, particularly if you are primarily or solely looking for 1 on 1 meets. "

I agree wholeheartedly.

I think a lot of men misunderstand the site and a lot of the women and couples on it.

There are women who want as many one-on-one meets as possible but I'd say they are very much in the minority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does it have to be fair? Life isn't fair

I'm bloody glad Fab isn't fair. I'd only get to shag fat, average-looking blokes if it were...

Chuck them my way please!"

Yahtzee!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fab works fine for plenty of people. Learn to make it work for you. And maybe rather than a sense of entitlement accept that for many single men fab is not going to give them what they want

That goes for women too. Some women also don't find what they want. I expect some couples experience much the same.

Of course, but I do think that for singlemen this site is not the best way of seeking out lots of sex, particularly if you are primarily or solely looking for 1 on 1 meets.

I agree wholeheartedly.

I think a lot of men misunderstand the site and a lot of the women and couples on it.

There are women who want as many one-on-one meets as possible but I'd say they are very much in the minority."

In the forum maybe but not uncommon in the "real world" of fab. Welcome back by the way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't read in the t&c of joining that sex is promised or guaranteed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Oooh! I'm punching that as my word for the day!

Conduit!

Now I just have to work out how to get it in a conversation!

Thanks HH! "

One aims to please Peachykins. HHx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Oooh! I'm punching that as my word for the day!

Conduit!

Now I just have to work out how to get it in a conversation!

Thanks HH!

Don't you mean you need a conduit for it into the conversation?"

Meh! Go and read the Sun! U is 2 clevr 4 ere!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Fab works fine for plenty of people. Learn to make it work for you. And maybe rather than a sense of entitlement accept that for many single men fab is not going to give them what they want

That goes for women too. Some women also don't find what they want. I expect some couples experience much the same.

Of course, but I do think that for singlemen this site is not the best way of seeking out lots of sex, particularly if you are primarily or solely looking for 1 on 1 meets.

I agree wholeheartedly.

I think a lot of men misunderstand the site and a lot of the women and couples on it.

There are women who want as many one-on-one meets as possible but I'd say they are very much in the minority.

In the forum maybe but not uncommon in the "real world" of fab. Welcome back by the way "

Thanks. I'm not really back though. My patience is still too short to be here for more than limited bursts.

I'm in bed with a stinking cold today though and trying to keep myself occupied.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Oooh! I'm punching that as my word for the day!

Conduit!

Now I just have to work out how to get it in a conversation!

Thanks HH!

One aims to please Peachykins. HHx "

Oh and you do!! At least - I think you do - I still can't remember NYE!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ahh this thread is a perfect microcosm of Fabs very own brand of high jingo.

I should be playing Fab buzzword bingo right now!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Ahh this thread is a perfect microcosm of Fabs very own brand of high jingo.

I should be playing Fab buzzword bingo right now!

"

I don't think anyone has mentioned being "genuine" yet.

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying

You specifically mention men not getting replies to messages and meets as examples of what isn't fair though.

That's strongly indicative that those are your experiences which you find unfair and which you think the site should act to improve.

As mentioned above, I doubt this is a selfless act of campaigning against any perceived unfairness to others.

Is it fair you won't get as many offers of meets as a 30/40 yr old man with a smoking hot body? You probably think not but life isn't fair and it's not up to the site to fix that for you.

Sex isn't an entitlement. You're not owed the same amount, and no more, as everyone else gets."

Ha ha I for one one would not even contemplate any of the things you have said as being remotely true. I do understand that a fat, bald, ugly, unintelligent man like me would not be allowed in the thoughts of beautifull women. But i know my place. I was really just asking how fab could be improved by various suggestions, sorry folks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To make it really fair they could only let people message others within 2 years either side of their age range,have the pic mods rate everyone by their face and body and only allow you to message people of your own attractiveness,only allow BBCs to message one person a year and throw anyone off the site who says no.

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By *llebWoman
over a year ago

Poulton Le Fylde


"How do you make make fab fairer for everyone?

Women complain about being inundated with messages, men complain about not getting replies and finding it difficult to meet.

Do fab make it harder for men to join by increasing subscriptions?

Take sanctions against people who don't reply to messages or meet, i.e social or chat only? Put better filters in place or just put custom sections in so that people can decide exactly what part they want to be in. Finally the people who cancell meets on a regular (time wasters) 3 strikes they are out or perhaps their own section so they can waste each others time? Yeah and i know everyone does have a genuine emergency. Your thoughts please or do you just think I'm a twat?"

Nothing's fair in love and war...or sex....... You need to grow a pair, sorry but whinging isn't an attractive trait

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ahh this thread is a perfect microcosm of Fabs very own brand of high jingo.

I should be playing Fab buzzword bingo right now!

"

Unless the opening topic is a really 'meaty' one - I think most threads become general conversation threads after a while!

Actually I think it's a good thing at times - because even when the opening post (not in this case) is filled with the vilest bigotry - the pleasantness and foolishness of human nature will come to the fore! That's one of the things I like most about my fellow humans - our ability to find humour and normality in the darkest situations!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying

You specifically mention men not getting replies to messages and meets as examples of what isn't fair though.

That's strongly indicative that those are your experiences which you find unfair and which you think the site should act to improve.

As mentioned above, I doubt this is a selfless act of campaigning against any perceived unfairness to others.

Is it fair you won't get as many offers of meets as a 30/40 yr old man with a smoking hot body? You probably think not but life isn't fair and it's not up to the site to fix that for you.

Sex isn't an entitlement. You're not owed the same amount, and no more, as everyone else gets.

Ha ha I for one one would not even contemplate any of the things you have said as being remotely true. I do understand that a fat, bald, ugly, unintelligent man like me would not be allowed in the thoughts of beautifull women. But i know my place. I was really just asking how fab could be improved by various suggestions, sorry folks."

You didn't mention improvement though, you specified "fairer" as if you believe it isn't fair now.

I think it actually is quite fair. It's up to how you use it and how much effort you make.

Certainly some people have more/less success because of their location/age/looks, but that's just life and life isn't fair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying

You specifically mention men not getting replies to messages and meets as examples of what isn't fair though.

That's strongly indicative that those are your experiences which you find unfair and which you think the site should act to improve.

As mentioned above, I doubt this is a selfless act of campaigning against any perceived unfairness to others.

Is it fair you won't get as many offers of meets as a 30/40 yr old man with a smoking hot body? You probably think not but life isn't fair and it's not up to the site to fix that for you.

Sex isn't an entitlement. You're not owed the same amount, and no more, as everyone else gets.

Ha ha I for one one would not even contemplate any of the things you have said as being remotely true. I do understand that a fat, bald, ugly, unintelligent man like me would not be allowed in the thoughts of beautifull women. But i know my place. I was really just asking how fab could be improved by various suggestions, sorry folks."

Using my suggestions,the fat,ugly,lank haired,unintelligent women would have to fuck you if you messaged them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Professional people should be allowed more messages.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover

"Imposing sanctions against those who don't answer messages or meet", along with other punitive measures you suggest, sounds mean-spirited and totally unjustified.

The choice of those particular examples does appear to be triggered more by personal experience and frustration rather than any objective quest for improving the site

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Professional people should be allowed more messages."

And should be guaranteed replies. And meets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Professional people should be allowed more messages."

But isn't everyone a 'professional' on here?

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying

You specifically mention men not getting replies to messages and meets as examples of what isn't fair though.

That's strongly indicative that those are your experiences which you find unfair and which you think the site should act to improve.

As mentioned above, I doubt this is a selfless act of campaigning against any perceived unfairness to others.

Is it fair you won't get as many offers of meets as a 30/40 yr old man with a smoking hot body? You probably think not but life isn't fair and it's not up to the site to fix that for you.

Sex isn't an entitlement. You're not owed the same amount, and no more, as everyone else gets.

Ha ha I for one one would not even contemplate any of the things you have said as being remotely true. I do understand that a fat, bald, ugly, unintelligent man like me would not be allowed in the thoughts of beautifull women. But i know my place. I was really just asking how fab could be improved by various suggestions, sorry folks.

You didn't mention improvement though, you specified "fairer" as if you believe it isn't fair now.

I think it actually is quite fair. It's up to how you use it and how much effort you make.

Certainly some people have more/less success because of their location/age/looks, but that's just life and life isn't fair."

The thing is you know more about me than i do,will not accept explanations and think the post is all about me!

You are wrong on all counts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fab is fine.

People just like to complain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Professional people should be allowed more messages.

But isn't everyone a 'professional' on here? "

Peachy, YOUR HOT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Professional people should be allowed more messages.

But isn't everyone a 'professional' on here? "

and genuine, don't forget genuine and mention that you're genuine several times just to confirm you are actually genuine

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By *mokes n MirrorsCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth and Newcastle (sometimes)


"Why should Fab change?

It's a platform people can use as they see fit. If people aren't getting the results they want, it's up to them to change the way they do things.

What do you mean by fair anyway?

A lot of the most successful people on here agree you get put what you put in. A lot of the moaners put in very little but maintain high expectations.

I don't think it's the job of the site to make things "fair", whatever that means."

What's left to say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Professional people should be allowed more messages.

But isn't everyone a 'professional' on here?

and genuine, don't forget genuine and mention that you're genuine several times just to confirm you are actually genuine "

Im a genuine top shagger

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


""Imposing sanctions against those who don't answer messages or meet", along with other punitive measures you suggest, sounds mean-spirited and totally unjustified.

The choice of those particular examples does appear to be triggered more by personal experience and frustration rather than any objective quest for improving the site"

^What he said.

Those suggestions are about forcing people to use the site the way the OP wants it to be. It's not about fairness at all, (except fairness to the OP at the possible expense of everyone else). It's about his perception of what might get him what he wants.

It doesn't suit the OP that some people use the site to chat and don't meet? Banning that would make it fairer.

Would it? Really? It wouldn't be fairer to those who want to chat, and aren't breaking any site rules by doing so.

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying

You specifically mention men not getting replies to messages and meets as examples of what isn't fair though.

That's strongly indicative that those are your experiences which you find unfair and which you think the site should act to improve.

As mentioned above, I doubt this is a selfless act of campaigning against any perceived unfairness to others.

Is it fair you won't get as many offers of meets as a 30/40 yr old man with a smoking hot body? You probably think not but life isn't fair and it's not up to the site to fix that for you.

Sex isn't an entitlement. You're not owed the same amount, and no more, as everyone else gets.

Ha ha I for one one would not even contemplate any of the things you have said as being remotely true. I do understand that a fat, bald, ugly, unintelligent man like me would not be allowed in the thoughts of beautifull women. But i know my place. I was really just asking how fab could be improved by various suggestions, sorry folks.

You didn't mention improvement though, you specified "fairer" as if you believe it isn't fair now.

I think it actually is quite fair. It's up to how you use it and how much effort you make.

Certainly some people have more/less success because of their location/age/looks, but that's just life and life isn't fair."

The thing is you know more about me than i do,will not accept explanations and think the post is all about me!

You are wrong on all counts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""Imposing sanctions against those who don't answer messages or meet", along with other punitive measures you suggest, sounds mean-spirited and totally unjustified.

The choice of those particular examples does appear to be triggered more by personal experience and frustration rather than any objective quest for improving the site

^What he said.

Those suggestions are about forcing people to use the site the way the OP wants it to be. It's not about fairness at all, (except fairness to the OP at the possible expense of everyone else). It's about his perception of what might get him what he wants.

It doesn't suit the OP that some people use the site to chat and don't meet? Banning that would make it fairer.

Would it? Really? It wouldn't be fairer to those who want to chat, and aren't breaking any site rules by doing so."

I think we should just change the rules so that all females want me, regardless of weather I am attractive to them or not...... In the world of B the only one I feel sorry for is erm me me me me me me me me me me meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee init

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying

You specifically mention men not getting replies to messages and meets as examples of what isn't fair though.

That's strongly indicative that those are your experiences which you find unfair and which you think the site should act to improve.

As mentioned above, I doubt this is a selfless act of campaigning against any perceived unfairness to others.

Is it fair you won't get as many offers of meets as a 30/40 yr old man with a smoking hot body? You probably think not but life isn't fair and it's not up to the site to fix that for you.

Sex isn't an entitlement. You're not owed the same amount, and no more, as everyone else gets.

Ha ha I for one one would not even contemplate any of the things you have said as being remotely true. I do understand that a fat, bald, ugly, unintelligent man like me would not be allowed in the thoughts of beautifull women. But i know my place. I was really just asking how fab could be improved by various suggestions, sorry folks.

You didn't mention improvement though, you specified "fairer" as if you believe it isn't fair now.

I think it actually is quite fair. It's up to how you use it and how much effort you make.

Certainly some people have more/less success because of their location/age/looks, but that's just life and life isn't fair.

The thing is you know more about me than i do,will not accept explanations and think the post is all about me!

You are wrong on all counts "

I'm commenting on how your post comes across.

I'm not the only one to think you are complaining about perceived unfairness to yourself so maybe it's a problem with what you actually wrote.

To whom do you think the site is unfair if not to you and all the other men you mention, who don't get replies and meets?

Why would you want to chuck off the people who chat or decline to meet you if not to improve your own chances?

How is that improving fairness, making everyone use the site as you want them to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying

You specifically mention men not getting replies to messages and meets as examples of what isn't fair though.

That's strongly indicative that those are your experiences which you find unfair and which you think the site should act to improve.

As mentioned above, I doubt this is a selfless act of campaigning against any perceived unfairness to others.

Is it fair you won't get as many offers of meets as a 30/40 yr old man with a smoking hot body? You probably think not but life isn't fair and it's not up to the site to fix that for you.

Sex isn't an entitlement. You're not owed the same amount, and no more, as everyone else gets.

Ha ha I for one one would not even contemplate any of the things you have said as being remotely true. I do understand that a fat, bald, ugly, unintelligent man like me would not be allowed in the thoughts of beautifull women. But i know my place. I was really just asking how fab could be improved by various suggestions, sorry folks.

You didn't mention improvement though, you specified "fairer" as if you believe it isn't fair now.

I think it actually is quite fair. It's up to how you use it and how much effort you make.

Certainly some people have more/less success because of their location/age/looks, but that's just life and life isn't fair.

The thing is you know more about me than i do,will not accept explanations and think the post is all about me!

You are wrong on all counts

I'm commenting on how your post comes across.

I'm not the only one to think you are complaining about perceived unfairness to yourself so maybe it's a problem with what you actually wrote.

To whom do you think the site is unfair if not to you and all the other men you mention, who don't get replies and meets?

Why would you want to chuck off the people who chat or decline to meet you if not to improve your own chances?

How is that improving fairness, making everyone use the site as you want them to?"

Refer to my earlier quote above, lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right "

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Professional people should be allowed more messages.

But isn't everyone a 'professional' on here?

and genuine, don't forget genuine and mention that you're genuine several times just to confirm you are actually genuine "

And discreet - you forgot discreet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Professional people should be allowed more messages.

But isn't everyone a 'professional' on here?

and genuine, don't forget genuine and mention that you're genuine several times just to confirm you are actually genuine

And discreet - you forgot discreet! "

And HOT, did I mention Peachy that your HOT

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I think admin should bring in a rule that all guys I fancy must agree to fuck me silly whenever I want.

I'm not totally selfish though, I don't mind travelling a bit or splitting the cost of a Travelodge room.

I shall have my PA begin sending out the notifications to those men whose presence is required.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"How do you make make fab fairer for everyone?

Women complain about being inundated with messages, men complain about not getting replies and finding it difficult to meet.

Do fab make it harder for men to join by increasing subscriptions?

Take sanctions against people who don't reply to messages or meet, i.e social or chat only? Put better filters in place or just put custom sections in so that people can decide exactly what part they want to be in. Finally the people who cancell meets on a regular (time wasters) 3 strikes they are out or perhaps their own section so they can waste each others time? Yeah and i know everyone does have a genuine emergency. Your thoughts please or do you just think I'm a twat?"

. Fab is already fair . There is no need to worry about other members and whether they get what they want.

You market yourself on fab by having a detailed well written profile and good pictures .

Those who complain about a lack of interest generally have very poor profiles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think fab should have a rule of.. .. No one is aloud to moan about lack of meets or people not replying to messages...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think fab should have a rule of.. .. No one is aloud to moan about lack of meets or people not replying to messages... "

How does one type a kind of HOWLING wolf sound........ As in I am LOVING your photo, hawoooooooool x

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"I think fab should have a rule of.. .. No one is aloud to moan about lack of meets or people not replying to messages... "

That reminds me where's my reply

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"How do you make make fab fairer for everyone?

Women complain about being inundated with messages, men complain about not getting replies and finding it difficult to meet.

Do fab make it harder for men to join by increasing subscriptions?

Take sanctions against people who don't reply to messages or meet, i.e social or chat only? Put better filters in place or just put custom sections in so that people can decide exactly what part they want to be in. Finally the people who cancell meets on a regular (time wasters) 3 strikes they are out or perhaps their own section so they can waste each others time? Yeah and i know everyone does have a genuine emergency. Your thoughts please or do you just think I'm a twat?"

the last 3 words.......

sorry just being brutally honest....

you are not owed just for being here.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do so many men moan on here. Yes, it takes a bit of effort but so what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think fab should have a rule of.. .. No one is aloud to moan about lack of meets or people not replying to messages...

How does one type a kind of HOWLING wolf sound........ As in I am LOVING your photo, hawoooooooool x"

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think fab should have a rule of.. .. No one is aloud to moan about lack of meets or people not replying to messages...

That reminds me where's my reply "

What am I replying to? X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think fab should have a rule of.. .. No one is aloud to moan about lack of meets or people not replying to messages...

How does one type a kind of HOWLING wolf sound........ As in I am LOVING your photo, hawoooooooool x

Thank you "

Hey luv thank you.... I love the outfit, wouldnt mind seing more of it or you.... I am not a pic collector by the way

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"I think fab should have a rule of.. .. No one is aloud to moan about lack of meets or people not replying to messages...

That reminds me where's my reply

What am I replying to? X"

Hey come on I'm a single bloke fancy a fucker

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By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh

Could you maybe clarify what "sanctions " you think there should be for folk that don't reply to messages please?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could you maybe clarify what "sanctions " you think there should be for folk that don't reply to messages please? "

Nothing but fed Stale bread n water for a week, nothing too harsh like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stop men from being able to mail so the women would have to go looking instead.

Imagine the angst....

That should be done for a week...no, a month, as a social experiment.

I've got men filtered and am doing my own looking so I'd be ok.

It does make my profile a bit confusing for men though. It says I'm looking for men but because I have them filtered it also says "not looking for single men".

I am though. It should say not accepting messages from new men."

Yeah same here - I am looking for men I just have the messaging turned off. I'd rather it said that!

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By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Could you maybe clarify what "sanctions " you think there should be for folk that don't reply to messages please?

Nothing but fed Stale bread n water for a week, nothing too harsh like"

Thank you, that would do wonders for my diet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why should Fab change?

It's a platform people can use as they see fit. If people aren't getting the results they want, it's up to them to change the way they do things.

What do you mean by fair anyway?

A lot of the most successful people on here agree you get put what you put in. A lot of the moaners put in very little but maintain high expectations.

I don't think it's the job of the site to make things "fair", whatever that means.

What's left to say."

I put in very little and get a lot out of Fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Oooh! I'm punching that as my word for the day!

Conduit!

Now I just have to work out how to get it in a conversation!

Thanks HH!

One aims to please Peachykins. HHx

Oh and you do!! At least - I think you do - I still can't remember NYE!! "

I'm trying not to remember - shabby minx that I was!!

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By *orthyorkypairCouple
over a year ago

North Yorkshire


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Oooh! I'm punching that as my word for the day!

Conduit!

Now I just have to work out how to get it in a conversation!

Thanks HH! "

easy - ask if anyone wants some cabling though theit conduit lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that. "

I cant help it, I am too embarrassed to walk in a shop and ask if they do bras for man boobs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that. "

I never get messages about my tits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

I never get messages about my tits "

Tried having them as your profile pic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

I cant help it, I am too embarrassed to walk in a shop and ask if they do bras for man boobs

"

Why not buy a woman's bra,pretend it's a present for a lady.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Stop men from being able to mail so the women would have to go looking instead.

Imagine the angst....

That should be done for a week...no, a month, as a social experiment.

I've got men filtered and am doing my own looking so I'd be ok.

It does make my profile a bit confusing for men though. It says I'm looking for men but because I have them filtered it also says "not looking for single men".

I am though. It should say not accepting messages from new men.

Yeah same here - I am looking for men I just have the messaging turned off. I'd rather it said that!"

I can understand them being confused about it. Talk about mixed messages!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

I cant help it, I am too embarrassed to walk in a shop and ask if they do bras for man boobs

"

I can't work out what your profile pic is.

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

I never get messages about my tits

Tried having them as your profile pic? "

So so tempted to send a message about your tits

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that. "

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

I cant help it, I am too embarrassed to walk in a shop and ask if they do bras for man boobs

Why not buy a woman's bra,pretend it's a present for a lady. "

Ahhhhhh bt some women are bigger than others and I am not one of those chaps who is a tit spotter and can recognise and know instantly what a womans bra size is........ My train of thought has always been any more than a hand full is a mouth full and potential to give me black eyes if she gets too carried away whilst on top of me

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

The site is what it is, learn to use it well and you can get sex and socials. It's not a difficult concept to grasp. We are all stuck with the site as it is and our faces and bodies, so make the best use of what is available.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not about being fair,it's about folk getting what they want!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

fab is what it is - like a friend accept the good bits and the bad and - if you dont like it way more than like then leave it alone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you make make fab fairer for everyone?

Women complain about being inundated with messages, men complain about not getting replies and finding it difficult to meet.

Do fab make it harder for men to join by increasing subscriptions?

Take sanctions against people who don't reply to messages or meet, i.e social or chat only? Put better filters in place or just put custom sections in so that people can decide exactly what part they want to be in. Finally the people who cancell meets on a regular (time wasters) 3 strikes they are out or perhaps their own section so they can waste each others time? Yeah and i know everyone does have a genuine emergency. Your thoughts please or do you just think I'm a twat?"

But fab is fair! Everyone has the same tools to use, and it's either free or it costs exactly the same to be a site supporter regardless of age, gender or sexual orientation. You can't complain about inequality!

How you use it to attract what you're looking for is down to YOU as an individual - you reap what you sow. Why should someone (and I'm generalising here not directing this at the OP personally) with a few blurred pics and 3 lines of profile text expect the same rate of success as another with an articulate, intelligently written longer profile and a variety of carefully selected photos? Or someone who sends well-thought out literate messages tailored to the recipient as opposed to 'U fancy a fuk bbe' to every female within a 50 mile radius?

I use every tool the site offers, put in minimal effort, and Fab works perfectly for me!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It's social Darwinism

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not too sure how you can make a website where people meet up based mainly on attraction 'fair'.

There will always be people that get messaged / meet more regardless of what system is put in place.

I think for a free site it serves the purpose pretty well.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

the bleatings of the hard done by are filters enough for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the bleatings of the hard done by are filters enough for me."

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not too sure how you can make a website where people meet up based mainly on attraction 'fair'.

There will always be people that get messaged / meet more regardless of what system is put in place.

I think for a free site it serves the purpose pretty well. "

I agree , its up to you if you become a site supporter.

Just enjoy the site for what it is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe guys who message asking for meets constantly after been told no and when you have it written on your profile could get bans

Lol

Too many guys think if a woman is here she wants every man in the place it doesn't work like that membership doesn't guarantee you sex or meets or anything else

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying

You specifically mention men not getting replies to messages and meets as examples of what isn't fair though.

That's strongly indicative that those are your experiences which you find unfair and which you think the site should act to improve.

As mentioned above, I doubt this is a selfless act of campaigning against any perceived unfairness to others.

Is it fair you won't get as many offers of meets as a 30/40 yr old man with a smoking hot body? You probably think not but life isn't fair and it's not up to the site to fix that for you.

Sex isn't an entitlement. You're not owed the same amount, and no more, as everyone else gets.

Ha ha I for one one would not even contemplate any of the things you have said as being remotely true. I do understand that a fat, bald, ugly, unintelligent man like me would not be allowed in the thoughts of beautifull women. But i know my place. I was really just asking how fab could be improved by various suggestions, sorry folks.

You didn't mention improvement though, you specified "fairer" as if you believe it isn't fair now.

I think it actually is quite fair. It's up to how you use it and how much effort you make.

Certainly some people have more/less success because of their location/age/looks, but that's just life and life isn't fair.

The thing is you know more about me than i do,will not accept explanations and think the post is all about me!

You are wrong on all counts

I'm commenting on how your post comes across.

I'm not the only one to think you are complaining about perceived unfairness to yourself so maybe it's a problem with what you actually wrote.

To whom do you think the site is unfair if not to you and all the other men you mention, who don't get replies and meets?

Why would you want to chuck off the people who chat or decline to meet you if not to improve your own chances?

How is that improving fairness, making everyone use the site as you want them to?"

No mention of the women who are inundated with replies?

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx "

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?"

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Admin should send all the men that join a patience mail saying, shagtonight is saying, that patience is they key before asking why in the forums lol.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"How do you make make fab fairer for everyone?

Women complain about being inundated with messages, men complain about not getting replies and finding it difficult to meet.

Do fab make it harder for men to join by increasing subscriptions?

Take sanctions against people who don't reply to messages or meet, i.e social or chat only? Put better filters in place or just put custom sections in so that people can decide exactly what part they want to be in. Finally the people who cancell meets on a regular (time wasters) 3 strikes they are out or perhaps their own section so they can waste each others time? Yeah and i know everyone does have a genuine emergency. Your thoughts please or do you just think I'm a twat?"

. Most members are capable of working out why they do not get replies .

On a simplistic basis no reply means one of two things

Either

Your are targeting the wrong audience

or

They have no interest in you

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?"

If its junk mail, I don't bother even opening it before it hits the recycling bin.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more.

Never said it didn't work for me!

You wouldn't be thinking about how to make it fairer if you didn't consider it unfair.

I dont consider the voting system fair just wondering how fab can be improved. I.e lesbian gay section possibly used fair wrongly but peeps (not all for example do waste your time) only saying

You specifically mention men not getting replies to messages and meets as examples of what isn't fair though.

That's strongly indicative that those are your experiences which you find unfair and which you think the site should act to improve.

As mentioned above, I doubt this is a selfless act of campaigning against any perceived unfairness to others.

Is it fair you won't get as many offers of meets as a 30/40 yr old man with a smoking hot body? You probably think not but life isn't fair and it's not up to the site to fix that for you.

Sex isn't an entitlement. You're not owed the same amount, and no more, as everyone else gets.

Ha ha I for one one would not even contemplate any of the things you have said as being remotely true. I do understand that a fat, bald, ugly, unintelligent man like me would not be allowed in the thoughts of beautifull women. But i know my place. I was really just asking how fab could be improved by various suggestions, sorry folks.

You didn't mention improvement though, you specified "fairer" as if you believe it isn't fair now.

I think it actually is quite fair. It's up to how you use it and how much effort you make.

Certainly some people have more/less success because of their location/age/looks, but that's just life and life isn't fair.

The thing is you know more about me than i do,will not accept explanations and think the post is all about me!

You are wrong on all counts

I'm commenting on how your post comes across.

I'm not the only one to think you are complaining about perceived unfairness to yourself so maybe it's a problem with what you actually wrote.

To whom do you think the site is unfair if not to you and all the other men you mention, who don't get replies and meets?

Why would you want to chuck off the people who chat or decline to meet you if not to improve your own chances?

How is that improving fairness, making everyone use the site as you want them to?

No mention of the women who are inundated with replies?"

You only mentioned that because you think "fixing" that perceived problem would help you get what you want, (more replies and meets). You're not actually concerned about the plight of the poor over-taxed women.

The site has several options for filtering messages which work pretty well for limiting messages, if they are used.

I'd like to see a few more, personally - I'd like to be able to block messages from smokers - but the existing ones work fairly well.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content. "

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield

Well my, this post rubbed people the wrong way derrrrrr!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work."

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down "

But those blasted women SHOULD like our cock photos. We don't moan about photos of their boobs...

etc etc

Never mind what actually works, bludgeon on with what SHOULD work, dammit.

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down "

Politely turned down by ...deleted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well my, this post rubbed people the wrong way derrrrrr!"

Yes. It was about how the site might get you a fuck, thinly veiled as to how it might be better. It is a website that enables people to connect and works fine as it is.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted"

Your point?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted"

Oh didums Ain't life a bitch? People really need to take a chill pill and not take things so seriously, its just a bit of fun, the moment is ceases to be that is probably the time to leave.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted"

If the profile shows the sender of the message isn't what the recipient is looking for and has clearly not read, or has ignored, the recipient's profile, for example, why should they deserve a reply?

There are loads of valid reasons for not replying. Many are being discussed in a thread on one of the other fora. I think it's called something about manners.

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley

FAB is like anything else in LIFE, you get out of it what you put in.........

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted

Your point?"

Somebody needs to call a waaahhhmbulance

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted

If the profile shows the sender of the message isn't what the recipient is looking for and has clearly not read, or has ignored, the recipient's profile, for example, why should they deserve a reply?

There are loads of valid reasons for not replying. Many are being discussed in a thread on one of the other fora. I think it's called something about manners."

I agree if someone speaks to me i answer ... simples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one."

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected.

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected. "

I always reply to someone if they speak to me, if they expect it or not

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted

If the profile shows the sender of the message isn't what the recipient is looking for and has clearly not read, or has ignored, the recipient's profile, for example, why should they deserve a reply?

There are loads of valid reasons for not replying. Many are being discussed in a thread on one of the other fora. I think it's called something about manners.

I agree if someone speaks to me i answer ... simples"

Not simples. You've clearly not considered any of the excellent reasons women don't reply to messages because it doesn't suit you. It's still all about what you want and what you expect with no thought for the experiences of other site users.

I really think you are the bad-mannered wanting the site to run to suit you and sod what anyone else wants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey everyone, I've got an idea, and its as hot as my pants - use the site how you wish, and let others do the same

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted

If the profile shows the sender of the message isn't what the recipient is looking for and has clearly not read, or has ignored, the recipient's profile, for example, why should they deserve a reply?

There are loads of valid reasons for not replying. Many are being discussed in a thread on one of the other fora. I think it's called something about manners.

I agree if someone speaks to me i answer ... simples

Not simples. You've clearly not considered any of the excellent reasons women don't reply to messages because it doesn't suit you. It's still all about what you want and what you expect with no thought for the experiences of other site users.

I really think you are the bad-mannered wanting the site to run to suit you and sod what anyone else wants."

Try sorry not for me good look in your search?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected. "

And I'm saying the senders of those crude messages have a choice. They're not slaves to avatars. They should have some control over themselves. That's what should be expected, not that a guy sees a photo of bare breasts and simply can't help being crude.

Sure, some polite messages are ignored and deleted but crude messages are far more likely to be deleted.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted

If the profile shows the sender of the message isn't what the recipient is looking for and has clearly not read, or has ignored, the recipient's profile, for example, why should they deserve a reply?

There are loads of valid reasons for not replying. Many are being discussed in a thread on one of the other fora. I think it's called something about manners.

I agree if someone speaks to me i answer ... simples

Not simples. You've clearly not considered any of the excellent reasons women don't reply to messages because it doesn't suit you. It's still all about what you want and what you expect with no thought for the experiences of other site users.

I really think you are the bad-mannered wanting the site to run to suit you and sod what anyone else wants. Try sorry not for me good look in your search?"

Try reading why women might not do that and give it some thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted

If the profile shows the sender of the message isn't what the recipient is looking for and has clearly not read, or has ignored, the recipient's profile, for example, why should they deserve a reply?

There are loads of valid reasons for not replying. Many are being discussed in a thread on one of the other fora. I think it's called something about manners.

I agree if someone speaks to me i answer ... simples

Not simples. You've clearly not considered any of the excellent reasons women don't reply to messages because it doesn't suit you. It's still all about what you want and what you expect with no thought for the experiences of other site users.

I really think you are the bad-mannered wanting the site to run to suit you and sod what anyone else wants. Try sorry not for me good look in your search?"

Well f*ck you, I didn't want to f*ck and ugly cow like you anyway can often be sent back. Who gives a flying f*ck if someone replies or not, just move on and stop dwelling on it.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Hey everyone, I've got an idea, and its as hot as my pants - use the site how you wish, and let others do the same "

But they should do it my way! It's not fair to me if they don't do what I want!

Where's the pouting emoticon?

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted

If the profile shows the sender of the message isn't what the recipient is looking for and has clearly not read, or has ignored, the recipient's profile, for example, why should they deserve a reply?

There are loads of valid reasons for not replying. Many are being discussed in a thread on one of the other fora. I think it's called something about manners.

I agree if someone speaks to me i answer ... simples

Not simples. You've clearly not considered any of the excellent reasons women don't reply to messages because it doesn't suit you. It's still all about what you want and what you expect with no thought for the experiences of other site users.

I really think you are the bad-mannered wanting the site to run to suit you and sod what anyone else wants. Try sorry not for me good look in your search?

Try reading why women might not do that and give it some thought."

Block me please for being polite,sensible and honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All's fair in Love and War....just some people love to make war on here

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted

If the profile shows the sender of the message isn't what the recipient is looking for and has clearly not read, or has ignored, the recipient's profile, for example, why should they deserve a reply?

There are loads of valid reasons for not replying. Many are being discussed in a thread on one of the other fora. I think it's called something about manners.

I agree if someone speaks to me i answer ... simples

Not simples. You've clearly not considered any of the excellent reasons women don't reply to messages because it doesn't suit you. It's still all about what you want and what you expect with no thought for the experiences of other site users.

I really think you are the bad-mannered wanting the site to run to suit you and sod what anyone else wants. Try sorry not for me good look in your search?

Try reading why women might not do that and give it some thought.

Block me please for being polite,sensible and honest"

You've been none of those things on this thread. You've been entitled, selfish and deluded.

I don't need to block you. You won't message me and even if you tried, my filters would prevent it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected.

And I'm saying the senders of those crude messages have a choice. They're not slaves to avatars. They should have some control over themselves. That's what should be expected, not that a guy sees a photo of bare breasts and simply can't help being crude.

Sure, some polite messages are ignored and deleted but crude messages are far more likely to be deleted."

Why should they have control? Why do women have their tits out on a sex/swinging site? For flattering messages or ego boosts? Get them out and you know what some messages will be like. If someone said nice muscles to a man would that be insulting too? Or nice arse?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected.

And I'm saying the senders of those crude messages have a choice. They're not slaves to avatars. They should have some control over themselves. That's what should be expected, not that a guy sees a photo of bare breasts and simply can't help being crude.

Sure, some polite messages are ignored and deleted but crude messages are far more likely to be deleted.

Why should they have control? Why do women have their tits out on a sex/swinging site? For flattering messages or ego boosts? Get them out and you know what some messages will be like. If someone said nice muscles to a man would that be insulting too? Or nice arse? "

I have a *nice* something

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted

If the profile shows the sender of the message isn't what the recipient is looking for and has clearly not read, or has ignored, the recipient's profile, for example, why should they deserve a reply?

There are loads of valid reasons for not replying. Many are being discussed in a thread on one of the other fora. I think it's called something about manners.

I agree if someone speaks to me i answer ... simples

Not simples. You've clearly not considered any of the excellent reasons women don't reply to messages because it doesn't suit you. It's still all about what you want and what you expect with no thought for the experiences of other site users.

I really think you are the bad-mannered wanting the site to run to suit you and sod what anyone else wants. Try sorry not for me good look in your search?

Try reading why women might not do that and give it some thought.

Block me please for being polite,sensible and honest

You've been none of those things on this thread. You've been entitled, selfish and deluded.

I don't need to block you. You won't message me and even if you tried, my filters would prevent it."

My owd mum said prevention is better than cure! Oh and you are right.. i wouldn't message you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected.

And I'm saying the senders of those crude messages have a choice. They're not slaves to avatars. They should have some control over themselves. That's what should be expected, not that a guy sees a photo of bare breasts and simply can't help being crude.

Sure, some polite messages are ignored and deleted but crude messages are far more likely to be deleted.

Why should they have control? Why do women have their tits out on a sex/swinging site? For flattering messages or ego boosts? Get them out and you know what some messages will be like. If someone said nice muscles to a man would that be insulting too? Or nice arse?

I have a *nice* something "

And if it was hanging out for all and sundry to see would you not expect someone to say nice cock?

Actually,forget I said that,the women on here would be up in arms about a man showing his dick

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected.

And I'm saying the senders of those crude messages have a choice. They're not slaves to avatars. They should have some control over themselves. That's what should be expected, not that a guy sees a photo of bare breasts and simply can't help being crude.

Sure, some polite messages are ignored and deleted but crude messages are far more likely to be deleted.

Why should they have control? Why do women have their tits out on a sex/swinging site? For flattering messages or ego boosts? Get them out and you know what some messages will be like. If someone said nice muscles to a man would that be insulting too? Or nice arse? "

Why should they have control? Seriously?!

It's up to women to modify their behaviour because the poor men are slaves to their hormones and can't control themselves?

They're adults. They're responsible for their own actions.

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So you think women have to be sanctioned for not replying to fancy a fuck message .. Yeah right

How on earth could you refuse such a chat up line...... Dear WENCH xx

No sense of humour. So you hust throw all your mail away unread?

The majority of women read the persons profile before opening the message so if that holds no interest they don't bother opening it so the profile content is probably more important than the message content.

This information should be included in a sticky message at the very top of the fora.

Then again, it would probably still be ignored by guys bull-headedly doing what they think ought to work.

Yep, ignore everything and message anyway, then have a hissy fit when they're politely turned down

Politely turned down by ...deleted

If the profile shows the sender of the message isn't what the recipient is looking for and has clearly not read, or has ignored, the recipient's profile, for example, why should they deserve a reply?

There are loads of valid reasons for not replying. Many are being discussed in a thread on one of the other fora. I think it's called something about manners.

I agree if someone speaks to me i answer ... simples

Not simples. You've clearly not considered any of the excellent reasons women don't reply to messages because it doesn't suit you. It's still all about what you want and what you expect with no thought for the experiences of other site users.

I really think you are the bad-mannered wanting the site to run to suit you and sod what anyone else wants. Try sorry not for me good look in your search?

Try reading why women might not do that and give it some thought.

Block me please for being polite,sensible and honest

You've been none of those things on this thread. You've been entitled, selfish and deluded.

I don't need to block you. You won't message me and even if you tried, my filters would prevent it.

My owd mum said prevention is better than cure! Oh and you are right.. i wouldn't message you."

So no need to block you.

I'd delete any message from you unread anyway because you're out of my age range, absolutely not what I'm looking for and come across as entitled, like it's all about you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected.

And I'm saying the senders of those crude messages have a choice. They're not slaves to avatars. They should have some control over themselves. That's what should be expected, not that a guy sees a photo of bare breasts and simply can't help being crude.

Sure, some polite messages are ignored and deleted but crude messages are far more likely to be deleted.

Why should they have control? Why do women have their tits out on a sex/swinging site? For flattering messages or ego boosts? Get them out and you know what some messages will be like. If someone said nice muscles to a man would that be insulting too? Or nice arse?

Why should they have control? Seriously?!

It's up to women to modify their behaviour because the poor men are slaves to their hormones and can't control themselves?

They're adults. They're responsible for their own actions.

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it"."

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Why should they have control? Why do women have their tits out on a sex/swinging site? For flattering messages or ego boosts? Get them out and you know what some messages will be like."

Why should men have control. Why do women flaunt themselves in short skirts and tight dresses? Obviously they want attention. Go out in a short skirt or tight dress and you know how some men will react.

That's basically what you're saying.

It makes the actions of the some men ok does it? Or the fault of the women?

We should all wear burqas or be happy with crude or sexual comments from total strangers?

Women putting up photos designed to appeal to and attract men is not an invitation for crude messages from strangers any more than wearing clothing to look attractive is an invitation for inappropriate behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Make Fab work for you. It's a conduit nothing more. "
hey HH love that avatar

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable. "

I don't have naked pics on here at all, just suggestive.....I expect respect, doesn't always happen though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected.

And I'm saying the senders of those crude messages have a choice. They're not slaves to avatars. They should have some control over themselves. That's what should be expected, not that a guy sees a photo of bare breasts and simply can't help being crude.

Sure, some polite messages are ignored and deleted but crude messages are far more likely to be deleted.

Why should they have control? Why do women have their tits out on a sex/swinging site? For flattering messages or ego boosts? Get them out and you know what some messages will be like. If someone said nice muscles to a man would that be insulting too? Or nice arse?

Why should they have control? Seriously?!

It's up to women to modify their behaviour because the poor men are slaves to their hormones and can't control themselves?

They're adults. They're responsible for their own actions.

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable. "

I find it extremely odd that anyone with semi/ fully naked pics would expect someone to chat about the weather. On a sex site.

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)


"

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

I don't have naked pics on here at all, just suggestive.....I expect respect, doesn't always happen though! "

Show us your tits..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why should they have control? Why do women have their tits out on a sex/swinging site? For flattering messages or ego boosts? Get them out and you know what some messages will be like.

Why should men have control. Why do women flaunt themselves in short skirts and tight dresses? Obviously they want attention. Go out in a short skirt or tight dress and you know how some men will react.

That's basically what you're saying.

It makes the actions of the some men ok does it? Or the fault of the women?

We should all wear burqas or be happy with crude or sexual comments from total strangers?

Women putting up photos designed to appeal to and attract men is not an invitation for crude messages from strangers any more than wearing clothing to look attractive is an invitation for inappropriate behaviour."

I'm not talking about the real world or saying men are right and women are wrong. If I had pics of my naked breasts on here I would expect some crude messages. Some people those crude messages could come from nice men who just like my tits. I don't make myself a victim of men's over enthusiastic ways on here. I accept it as part of an online sexual community. If I went out with a short skirt and my vagina visible I would expect comments or even be arrested for indecency.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

I don't have naked pics on here at all, just suggestive.....I expect respect, doesn't always happen though! "

You're doing it wrong. You should be wearing a burqa in your public photos and only send any suggestive ones to men you want crude comments from.

They can't help themselves, you see.

Also, be sure to cover any piano legs with sacking.

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

I don't have naked pics on here at all, just suggestive.....I expect respect, doesn't always happen though! "

Manners and respect all all go hand in hand, i know someone is going to say that respect has to be earned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected.

And I'm saying the senders of those crude messages have a choice. They're not slaves to avatars. They should have some control over themselves. That's what should be expected, not that a guy sees a photo of bare breasts and simply can't help being crude.

Sure, some polite messages are ignored and deleted but crude messages are far more likely to be deleted.

Why should they have control? Why do women have their tits out on a sex/swinging site? For flattering messages or ego boosts? Get them out and you know what some messages will be like. If someone said nice muscles to a man would that be insulting too? Or nice arse?

Why should they have control? Seriously?!

It's up to women to modify their behaviour because the poor men are slaves to their hormones and can't control themselves?

They're adults. They're responsible for their own actions.

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

I find it extremely odd that anyone with semi/ fully naked pics would expect someone to chat about the weather. On a sex site. "

It's like baiting a fish with a worm and saying it deserves to be caught.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

I don't have naked pics on here at all, just suggestive.....I expect respect, doesn't always happen though!

You're doing it wrong. You should be wearing a burqa in your public photos and only send any suggestive ones to men you want crude comments from.

They can't help themselves, you see.

Also, be sure to cover any piano legs with sacking."

Or wear nothing and decry that men don't respect you. Bit dramatic even for you.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"If your tits are out you're going to get messages about them. It doesn't take a genius to know that.

That doesn't really justify crude initial messages about them.

Any genius should also know that a polite first message is likely to yield better results than a crude one.

Polite first messages are often ignored and deleted. Only a stupid woman would think that showing naked body parts won't instigate crude messages. I'm not saying it's justified,I'm saying it's expected.

And I'm saying the senders of those crude messages have a choice. They're not slaves to avatars. They should have some control over themselves. That's what should be expected, not that a guy sees a photo of bare breasts and simply can't help being crude.

Sure, some polite messages are ignored and deleted but crude messages are far more likely to be deleted.

Why should they have control? Why do women have their tits out on a sex/swinging site? For flattering messages or ego boosts? Get them out and you know what some messages will be like. If someone said nice muscles to a man would that be insulting too? Or nice arse?

Why should they have control? Seriously?!

It's up to women to modify their behaviour because the poor men are slaves to their hormones and can't control themselves?

They're adults. They're responsible for their own actions.

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

I find it extremely odd that anyone with semi/ fully naked pics would expect someone to chat about the weather. On a sex site. "

There's a bit of a difference between chatting about the weather and sending a crude message without so much as a hello or any indication of interest!

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I find it extremely odd that anyone with semi/ fully naked pics would expect someone to chat about the weather. On a sex site. "

I've been to swinger clubs and seen fully naked people talking to each other about the weather. This is Britain, after all.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

I don't have naked pics on here at all, just suggestive.....I expect respect, doesn't always happen though!

You're doing it wrong. You should be wearing a burqa in your public photos and only send any suggestive ones to men you want crude comments from.

They can't help themselves, you see.

Also, be sure to cover any piano legs with sacking.

Or wear nothing and decry that men don't respect you. Bit dramatic even for you.

"

Personally I would expect people to speak to me as if they were face to face, some how I don't think they would come up to me asking 'Do you fancy a fuck' I don't care what the nature of the site is or whether people think this is a naïve attitude to have or not if people cannot conduct themselves towards those they are approaching, and do not have the basic manners then I am not interested regardless of any excuses people make for others/themselves.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

I don't have naked pics on here at all, just suggestive.....I expect respect, doesn't always happen though!

You're doing it wrong. You should be wearing a burqa in your public photos and only send any suggestive ones to men you want crude comments from.

They can't help themselves, you see.

Also, be sure to cover any piano legs with sacking.

Or wear nothing and decry that men don't respect you. Bit dramatic even for you.

"

It's like you think there are circumstances in which it's ok for men to disrespect women.

What is so worthy of disrespect about being naked and trying to attract male attention? It's what most of the men on here want ffs, so why the need to treat the women they might get it from disrespectfully?

It's so arse about face! In the same way as I don't understand slut shaming, I don't see why women should expect to be treated disrespectfully because they're trying to attract men.

It's like we want to fuck you but we're damned well going to think badly of you and treat you badly if you let us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

I don't have naked pics on here at all, just suggestive.....I expect respect, doesn't always happen though!

You're doing it wrong. You should be wearing a burqa in your public photos and only send any suggestive ones to men you want crude comments from.

They can't help themselves, you see.

Also, be sure to cover any piano legs with sacking.

Or wear nothing and decry that men don't respect you. Bit dramatic even for you.

It's like you think there are circumstances in which it's ok for men to disrespect women.

What is so worthy of disrespect about being naked and trying to attract male attention? It's what most of the men on here want ffs, so why the need to treat the women they might get it from disrespectfully?

It's so arse about face! In the same way as I don't understand slut shaming, I don't see why women should expect to be treated disrespectfully because they're trying to attract men.

It's like we want to fuck you but we're damned well going to think badly of you and treat you badly if you let us.

"

That's because you are so caught up in your single man hating on here you haven't got the gist of what I'm saying. I'm drinking wine now so I'm going to leave the thread to you. Adieu!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"

Saying "she had a photo of her boobs up so it's her fault I sent her a crude message" is perilously close to "she had a short skirt on so she was asking for it".

The nature of this site is sexual. As I said,a woman would have to be incredibly stupid to think showing naked pics won't get sexual messages. Want respect? Be respectable.

I don't have naked pics on here at all, just suggestive.....I expect respect, doesn't always happen though!

You're doing it wrong. You should be wearing a burqa in your public photos and only send any suggestive ones to men you want crude comments from.

They can't help themselves, you see.

Also, be sure to cover any piano legs with sacking.

Or wear nothing and decry that men don't respect you. Bit dramatic even for you.

It's like you think there are circumstances in which it's ok for men to disrespect women.

What is so worthy of disrespect about being naked and trying to attract male attention? It's what most of the men on here want ffs, so why the need to treat the women they might get it from disrespectfully?

It's so arse about face! In the same way as I don't understand slut shaming, I don't see why women should expect to be treated disrespectfully because they're trying to attract men.

It's like we want to fuck you but we're damned well going to think badly of you and treat you badly if you let us.

That's because you are so caught up in your single man hating on here you haven't got the gist of what I'm saying. I'm drinking wine now so I'm going to leave the thread to you. Adieu!"

I don't hate single men and I've read everything you've said.

The gist is if women show explicit photos of themselves, they should expect to be disrespected. Why?

Why is being sexually liberated and trying to appeal sexually to men grounds to be disrespected?

It's an extension of expecting ladies to behave like ladies, (being respectable as you said), or it's ok to disrespect them.

It's another facet of slut shaming. How dare a woman complain about how a man treated her when she wasn't respectable? She was obviously asking to be treated disrespectfully and should have expected it.

Expecting women to behave "respectably" or otherwise having no grounds to complain is a Victorian outlook.

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By *lighty1Woman
over a year ago

You Dont Need to Know, right now

I 100% agree with equality in the workplace. But this is the sex-place! No matter how often men whinge about it, there are far more men than women who want NSA sex.

There are no changes that Fab could make that will change that. NO to charging men more to join (would just increase their sense of entitlement). NO to sanctions on women who don't reply/meet (why would we, if we don't find a man attractive?)

OP, just use the tools that the site has given you, and accept that sex will NEVER be fair, in your lifetime.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I don't see it as being unfair. For guys, if you can't get a shag on here, heaven bloody help you..... For women, there are many who don't seem to have the volume of angst that some do and there is no surprise who they are, the strength of character they appear to have and the ownership of their experience.

The sense of entitlement is evident from some members of all groupings......

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"I 100% agree with equality in the workplace. But this is the sex-place! No matter how often men whinge about it, there are far more men than women who want NSA sex.

There are no changes that Fab could make that will change that. NO to charging men more to join (would just increase their sense of entitlement). NO to sanctions on women who don't reply/meet (why would we, if we don't find a man attractive?)

OP, just use the tools that the site has given you, and accept that sex will NEVER be fair, in your lifetime."

Now what is thread about again cos you have totall y lost me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You make it fairer by giving yourself a reality check and adjusting your expectations accordingly...

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By *abphil OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"You make it fairer by giving yourself a reality check and adjusting your expectations accordingly...

"

Done it all man just asked a sensible question

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"You make it fairer by giving yourself a reality check and adjusting your expectations accordingly...

Done it all man just asked a sensible question"

and people answered it....

you are not owed anything just for being here......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You make it fairer by giving yourself a reality check and adjusting your expectations accordingly...

Done it all man just asked a sensible question"

It's sensible answer...... and the only one that can work with equal effectiveness for every member of the site,,,

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