FabSwingers.com forum: should asylum seekers be sent home?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Asylum seekers have been blamed for attacking lots of German women on new year's eve.

Was Merkel crazy for letting all those asylum seekers in, and should Germany now send them all back home?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Asylum seekers have been blamed for attacking lots of German women on new year's eve.

Was Merkel crazy for letting all those asylum seekers in, and should Germany now send them all back home?"

Yes - they should be removed

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By *traight forwardMan
over a year ago

doncaster

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they are found guilty of the alleged assaults. Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If they are found guilty of the alleged assaults. Yes."

I think most people want all of them gone

Full stop

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If they are found guilty of the alleged assaults. Yes."

This, being blamed and being guilty are two different things xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?"

Yes he is

We are the furthest (except Ireland and Portugal) away from what's happening

We have no obligation to take them

They pose a threat and will cost us money

We have enough debt and crime of our own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If they are found guilty of the alleged assaults. Yes.

This, being blamed and being guilty are two different things xx"

Shouldn't be there in the first place

Did Merkel have a referendum before she made such a huge decision? Was she elected on a platform of pro asylum immigration? No she didn't

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

The last I read no arrests had been made. Just because someone looks 'North African or Arabic' doesn't mean they are an asylum seeker. So I see no connection between the crimes and your suggestion.

One thing that is certain, however, is the gender of the attackers. Why do you not think all men should be asked to leave?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The last I read no arrests had been made. Just because someone looks 'North African or Arabic' doesn't mean they are an asylum seeker. So I see no connection between the crimes and your suggestion.

One thing that is certain, however, is the gender of the attackers. Why do you not think all men should be asked to leave?"

Asylum seeker or not they should be asked to leave

Why are there North African and Arab males in a German city

Causing problems clearly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Need to separate true asylum seekers from free loaders / terrorists in their midst

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where I'm from originally the crime rate has drastically risen from foreigners, this isnt to say that the crime was never there but i do believe this has a part in it massively

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plus asylum seekers is the nearest safe border not 12 bypassed borders

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some are taking advantage of our softness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Need to separate true asylum seekers from free loaders / terrorists in their midst"

All the same

Should be there / here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

Yes he is

We are the furthest (except Ireland and Portugal) away from what's happening

We have no obligation to take them

They pose a threat and will cost us money

We have enough debt and crime of our own "

Good grief, we agree on something!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

Yes he is

We are the furthest (except Ireland and Portugal) away from what's happening

We have no obligation to take them

They pose a threat and will cost us money

We have enough debt and crime of our own

Good grief, we agree on something!"

A broken clock is right two times a day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?"

No because we aren't just letting in all the men who make the journey here.

We are taking those in real need from the camps in turkey who have applied properly.

Very different, we are taking desperate refuges qho will likley need a lot of treatment.

Germany wanted to flood the country with strong young men for cheap labour and thats what they got.

just they dont seem interested in being cheap labour given the average German is walking around with a few hundred quid worth of nice phones etc that makes easy pickings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we follow international law on refugees (as agreed by United Nations) then they should seek Asylum in "the first safe country" they come too.

That country is Turkey...a Muslim country.

Anyone who refuses to seek such asylum should be classed as an economic migrant and refused further travel/movement.

Help we give should be to Turkey to keep the asylum seekers there.

ISIL/ISIS have already said they will send their terrorists hidden among the migrants.....we already know at least two of them walked into Europe and eventually to Paris and be involved in the recent attacks there.

Time to say no...! They have no intention of integrating or following our laws. As such they have no place here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

No because we aren't just letting in all the men who make the journey here.

We are taking those in real need from the camps in turkey who have applied properly.

Very different, we are taking desperate refuges qho will likley need a lot of treatment.

Germany wanted to flood the country with strong young men for cheap labour and thats what they got.

just they dont seem interested in being cheap labour given the average German is walking around with a few hundred quid worth of nice phones etc that makes easy pickings."

Germany has plenty of cheap labour

Real wages haven't risen much since unification

Also - the ones we let in - like they have been vetted correctly

Also - why let them in in the first place

This is a middle Eastern civil war

Saudi Arabia has a tented city which can hold 2 million people for the trip to Mecca

Not once have they offered the Syrians refugee

And they are a middle eastern Muslim country

Yet the offer Germany 200 mosques paid for by them

Simp,y put no one wants them and we are soft for saying yes

These liberal values will be the end of us

Also - lots aren't even Syrian - there's a whole bunch of people flooding into Europe - which will turn into a sinking ship - that aren't from war zones

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

20000 over 5 years in a country of 70 million is pissing in the wind frankly and will be barely noticeable

The more noticeable thing is the 100000+ he's allowing in every year from outside the EU which he has complete control over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If we follow international law on refugees (as agreed by United Nations) then they should seek Asylum in "the first safe country" they come too.

That country is Turkey...a Muslim country.

Anyone who refuses to seek such asylum should be classed as an economic migrant and refused further travel/movement.

Help we give should be to Turkey to keep the asylum seekers there.

Time to say no...! They have no intention of integrating or following our laws. As such they have no place here!"

Or Jordan

Iraq/Iran

Lebanon

Israel - good luck - lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If they are found guilty of the alleged assaults. Yes.

This, being blamed and being guilty are two different things xx"

The German women who were attacked consider their North Africa/Middle Eastern attackers to be guilty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Population control. Germany can't go to war. We can. So we drop bombs on IS and the government can scare us by saying "watch out! IS might come here and get us! Best you surrender your civil liberties for your own good". So Germany has to invite the war in...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

No because we aren't just letting in all the men who make the journey here.

We are taking those in real need from the camps in turkey who have applied properly.

Very different, we are taking desperate refuges qho will likley need a lot of treatment.

Germany wanted to flood the country with strong young men for cheap labour and thats what they got.

just they dont seem interested in being cheap labour given the average German is walking around with a few hundred quid worth of nice phones etc that makes easy pickings.

Germany has plenty of cheap labour

Real wages haven't risen much since unification

Also - the ones we let in - like they have been vetted correctly

Also - why let them in in the first place

This is a middle Eastern civil war

Saudi Arabia has a tented city which can hold 2 million people for the trip to Mecca

Not once have they offered the Syrians refugee

And they are a middle eastern Muslim country

Yet the offer Germany 200 mosques paid for by them

Simp,y put no one wants them and we are soft for saying yes

These liberal values will be the end of us

Also - lots aren't even Syrian - there's a whole bunch of people flooding into Europe - which will turn into a sinking ship - that aren't from war zones "

Germany's population is aging.

Merkel needed a big influx of young healthy workers to sure up the future.

I dont think it has turned out how she intended.

And the issue legality is greatly muddied by the fact she invited them to come.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"20000 over 5 years in a country of 70 million is pissing in the wind frankly and will be barely noticeable

The more noticeable thing is the 100000+ he's allowing in every year from outside the EU which he has complete control over "

Or the millions from Eastern Europe

8 million people in this country who were not even born here

Let alone the countless years of immigration and second and third generation we have no hope of asking to leave

All with birth rates higher than the locals

Long term - we will be the minority's

Then we are really fucked

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By *eeDee25Woman
over a year ago

crook

Yes send them back!!

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

"If they are found guilty of the alleged assaults. Yes.

This, being blamed and being guilty are two different things xx

The German women who were attacked consider their North Africa/Middle Eastern attackers to be guilty."

And those individuals should be deported, deporting 1000s offer people who weren't involved in the assaults because they look similar won't give those assaulted women any justice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No they shouldn't be sent away what's wrong with you people you make me sick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

No because we aren't just letting in all the men who make the journey here.

We are taking those in real need from the camps in turkey who have applied properly.

Very different, we are taking desperate refuges qho will likley need a lot of treatment.

Germany wanted to flood the country with strong young men for cheap labour and thats what they got.

just they dont seem interested in being cheap labour given the average German is walking around with a few hundred quid worth of nice phones etc that makes easy pickings.

Germany has plenty of cheap labour

Real wages haven't risen much since unification

Also - the ones we let in - like they have been vetted correctly

Also - why let them in in the first place

This is a middle Eastern civil war

Saudi Arabia has a tented city which can hold 2 million people for the trip to Mecca

Not once have they offered the Syrians refugee

And they are a middle eastern Muslim country

Yet the offer Germany 200 mosques paid for by them

Simp,y put no one wants them and we are soft for saying yes

These liberal values will be the end of us

Also - lots aren't even Syrian - there's a whole bunch of people flooding into Europe - which will turn into a sinking ship - that aren't from war zones

Germany's population is aging.

Merkel needed a big influx of young healthy workers to sure up the future.

I dont think it has turned out how she intended.

And the issue legality is greatly muddied by the fact she invited them to come."

Does she have the power to welcome them? Not very democratic

Also - healthy young workers

Could think of a lot better

Look how they treat western women and our values

Couldn't think of anyone worse rather have the Eastern Europeans - Poland is in their border

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"20000 over 5 years in a country of 70 million is pissing in the wind frankly and will be barely noticeable

The more noticeable thing is the 100000+ he's allowing in every year from outside the EU which he has complete control over

Or the millions from Eastern Europe

8 million people in this country who were not even born here

Let alone the countless years of immigration and second and third generation we have no hope of asking to leave

All with birth rates higher than the locals

Long term - we will be the minority's

Then we are really fucked "

Long term you won't

Birthrates decrease after 1-2 geberations to be inline with the national average.

Now say we removed all imagration tomorrow some big silver bullet that fixed all that

Then we be seriously fucked in the long term.....the uk birth rate (even with the imigrants) is below 2.

Ie we would be a shrinking and aging population.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If they are found guilty of the alleged assaults. Yes.

This, being blamed and being guilty are two different things xx

The German women who were attacked consider their North Africa/Middle Eastern attackers to be guilty.

And those individuals should be deported, deporting 1000s offer people who weren't involved in the assaults because they look similar won't give those assaulted women any justice "

Will make us feel safer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"20000 over 5 years in a country of 70 million is pissing in the wind frankly and will be barely noticeable

The more noticeable thing is the 100000+ he's allowing in every year from outside the EU which he has complete control over

Or the millions from Eastern Europe

8 million people in this country who were not even born here

Let alone the countless years of immigration and second and third generation we have no hope of asking to leave

All with birth rates higher than the locals

Long term - we will be the minority's

Then we are really fucked

Long term you won't

Birthrates decrease after 1-2 geberations to be inline with the national average.

Now say we removed all imagration tomorrow some big silver bullet that fixed all that

Then we be seriously fucked in the long term.....the uk birth rate (even with the imigrants) is below 2.

Ie we would be a shrinking and aging population."

If birth rate drops then we will need more and more immigrants

Us poor white English people will still be the minority

And there are others ways to boost birth rate

Funded childcare etc

Keep the country smaller and under control and British

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No they shouldn't be sent away what's wrong with you people you make me sick "

No - just normal and not a deluded liberal or the leader of the Labour Party

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?"

In our paper the other day, there was a story about some posh white boy who actually raped two people, not just assaulted them. Should we lock up all posh white boys? Just in case? If you say no, will you take the responsibility if someone else is raped?

Mr ddc

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London

"20000 over 5 years in a country of 70 million is pissing in the wind frankly and will be barely noticeable

The more noticeable thing is the 100000+ he's allowing in every year from outside the EU which he has complete control over

Or the millions from Eastern Europe

8 million people in this country who were not even born here

Let alone the countless years of immigration and second and third generation we have no hope of asking to leave

All with birth rates higher than the locals

Long term - we will be the minority's

Then we are really fucked "

Second and third generation you have no hope of asking to leave? I'm first generation British-Filipino. Born in London. You want me to leave?

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

Well this thread has increased the block list.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

Mr ddc"

That's terrible and there will always be crime

No need to add to the problem by bring people over with less morals and western standards and a proven Higher likelihood to commit crime

You think they got here legally?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

Mr ddc"

Wow....a sensible post

Of course you punish everyone for individual actions.

Punishing the individual is just silly!

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

Mr ddc"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funny that am just your average guy not into politics but hate how everyone believe the propaganda that's out there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hilarious - have an opinion and free speech and blocked for it

Zoltaire will be turning in his grave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Funny that am just your average guy not into politics but hate how everyone believe the propaganda that's out there "

Your right

It's amazing how people are trying to say they are nice people

What a load of rubbish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well this thread has increased the block list. "

Can all the racists please join in and wave an arm (or just stick it up straight at a 45% angle if you prefer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

Mr ddc"

Not a bad plan.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about"

Let their fellow neighbours and religions kin help them

Oh wait let's use rich Europe instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well this thread has increased the block list.

Can all the racists please join in and wave an arm (or just stick it up straight at a 45% angle if you prefer

Anti immigration isn't racist - just a left wing lie to stop people expressing their opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hitler went for the wrong race

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hitler went for the wrong race"

Jews are our friends - great people

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

Maybe we should have some more evidence before we decide.

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London

"Well this thread has increased the block list.

Can all the racists please join in and wave an arm (or just stick it up straight at a 45% angle if you prefer

Anti immigration isn't racist - just a left wing lie to stop people expressing their opinion "

Soooo.... remove all immigrants? Or all none whites? What are you saying here?

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"Hilarious - have an opinion and free speech and blocked for it

Zoltaire will be turning in his grave "

You're free to speak and I'm free to block.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

No because we aren't just letting in all the men who make the journey here.

We are taking those in real need from the camps in turkey who have applied properly.

Very different, we are taking desperate refuges qho will likley need a lot of treatment.

Germany wanted to flood the country with strong young men for cheap labour and thats what they got.

just they dont seem interested in being cheap labour given the average German is walking around with a few hundred quid worth of nice phones etc that makes easy pickings.

Germany has plenty of cheap labour

Real wages haven't risen much since unification

Also - the ones we let in - like they have been vetted correctly

Also - why let them in in the first place

This is a middle Eastern civil war

Saudi Arabia has a tented city which can hold 2 million people for the trip to Mecca

Not once have they offered the Syrians refugee

And they are a middle eastern Muslim country

Yet the offer Germany 200 mosques paid for by them

Simp,y put no one wants them and we are soft for saying yes

These liberal values will be the end of us

Also - lots aren't even Syrian - there's a whole bunch of people flooding into Europe - which will turn into a sinking ship - that aren't from war zones

Germany's population is aging.

Merkel needed a big influx of young healthy workers to sure up the future.

I dont think it has turned out how she intended.

And the issue legality is greatly muddied by the fact she invited them to come."

That is absolute rubbish

Germany doesn't need 'strong young men' as we have plenty of strong young men of our own

Neither do we need any technological boost from the migrants. We are world leaders in manufacturing and technology

And whoever said that these weren't asylum seekers is talking nonsence too. 11 asylum seekers have already been identified by the Police. A further 19 have been identified who are Arab or African but have now acquired German citizenship

A genuine asylum seeker does not cross several safe borders to get to a wealthy nation. Genuine asylum seekers would be grateful for a place in any safe country. There are many safe countries between Afganistan, Syria, Libya and Germany. These are economic migrants

They do not add any value to the German economy; instead they are a drain on our economy. They do not speak our language nor do they respect our culture or values

I don't know if we can now send them all back but we must put a stop the the millions more who are desperate to enter Germany

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well this thread has increased the block list.

Can all the racists please join in and wave an arm (or just stick it up straight at a 45% angle if you prefer

Anti immigration isn't racist - just a left wing lie to stop people expressing their opinion "

How about calling refugees "Mudbloods", as you have done in a previous thread? Is that racism or a left-wing lie?

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

"Well this thread has increased the block list.

Can all the racists please join in and wave an arm (or just stick it up straight at a 45% angle if you prefer

Anti immigration isn't racist - just a left wing lie to stop people expressing their opinion "

Net immigration is higher currently that it was under labour, so I can't see this being a labour bs conservative thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well this thread has increased the block list.

Can all the racists please join in and wave an arm (or just stick it up straight at a 45% angle if you prefer

Anti immigration isn't racist - just a left wing lie to stop people expressing their opinion

Soooo.... remove all immigrants? Or all none whites? What are you saying here?

Remove all illegal immigrants, asylum seekers, refugees and people who the British public have not specifically agreed to allow in

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Mr ddc

That's terrible and there will always be crime

No need to add to the problem by bring people over with less morals and western standards and a proven Higher likelihood to commit crime

You think they got here legally?"

Watching children dying in Syria, I sometimes think 'legal' loses its meaning.

I also don't believe all foreigners are of lower moral standards. Nor that skin colour somehow denotes someones character. (Though admittedly, I did always find it curious why so many UKIP candidates had fake tans...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

No because we aren't just letting in all the men who make the journey here.

We are taking those in real need from the camps in turkey who have applied properly.

Very different, we are taking desperate refuges qho will likley need a lot of treatment.

Germany wanted to flood the country with strong young men for cheap labour and thats what they got.

just they dont seem interested in being cheap labour given the average German is walking around with a few hundred quid worth of nice phones etc that makes easy pickings.

Germany has plenty of cheap labour

Real wages haven't risen much since unification

Also - the ones we let in - like they have been vetted correctly

Also - why let them in in the first place

This is a middle Eastern civil war

Saudi Arabia has a tented city which can hold 2 million people for the trip to Mecca

Not once have they offered the Syrians refugee

And they are a middle eastern Muslim country

Yet the offer Germany 200 mosques paid for by them

Simp,y put no one wants them and we are soft for saying yes

These liberal values will be the end of us

Also - lots aren't even Syrian - there's a whole bunch of people flooding into Europe - which will turn into a sinking ship - that aren't from war zones

Germany's population is aging.

Merkel needed a big influx of young healthy workers to sure up the future.

I dont think it has turned out how she intended.

And the issue legality is greatly muddied by the fact she invited them to come.

That is absolute rubbish

Germany doesn't need 'strong young men' as we have plenty of strong young men of our own

Neither do we need any technological boost from the migrants. We are world leaders in manufacturing and technology

They do not add any value to the German economy; instead they are a drain on our economy. They do not speak our language nor do they respect our culture or values

I don't know if we can now send them all back but we must put a stop the the millions more who are desperate to enter Germany"

Perfect answer x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mr ddc

That's terrible and there will always be crime

No need to add to the problem by bring people over with less morals and western standards and a proven Higher likelihood to commit crime

You think they got here legally?

Watching children dying in Syria, I sometimes think 'legal' loses its meaning.

Yes

It's bad they are dyi

Coming to Germany and Uk isn't the answer

Many other safe countries they could go to

Loads in the Middle East

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By *Carver-Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Well this thread has increased the block list. "

Agreed. Nothing kills my interest like authoritarian bigotry...

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over a year ago

"Well this thread has increased the block list.

Can all the racists please join in and wave an arm (or just stick it up straight at a 45% angle if you prefer

Anti immigration isn't racist - just a left wing lie to stop people expressing their opinion

Net immigration is higher currently that it was under labour, so I can't see this being a labour bs conservative thing "

Due to lack of border control the Torres have no say on - dame Euro zone

Oh wait it was Tiny Blair who refused to block the extra countries joining the European Union and caused this

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over a year ago

"Well this thread has increased the block list.

Agreed. Nothing kills my interest like authoritarian bigotry..."

Like someone who blocks someone?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Well this thread has increased the block list. "

Can you add me too to your ever increasing block list, please. Thank you

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Mr ddc

Yes

It's bad they are dyi

Coming to Germany and Uk isn't the answer

Many other safe countries they could go to

Loads in the Middle East "

I thought the general consensus was that much of the Middle East wasn't very safe.

Would you be okay if we let in the nice rich, professional, Christian ones?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Those guilty should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Just interested to see the opinions of those sending them back. I worked in Cyprus for 6 years and the numbers of British white men who seem to think its ok to assault , grope and intimidate foreign women while on holiday and losses is incredible, well in the 1000s. Should they be banned from international travel too?

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over a year ago

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

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"Those guilty should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

If they have a fair trial and are found guilty then yes they should; being British is no reason not to be punished if you break the law

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mr ddc

Yes

It's bad they are dyi

Coming to Germany and Uk isn't the answer

Many other safe countries they could go to

Loads in the Middle East

I thought the general consensus was that much of the Middle East wasn't very safe.

Would you be okay if we let in the nice rich, professional, Christian ones?

If they were then they most likely wouldn't be having a civil war would they

How about Georgia

Turkmenistan

Iran

All safe

Also - mainly not safe to white westerners not local Muslims

I feel sorry for the Druze and Christians in Syria

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Those guilty should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

If I was Cyprus I would ban them from coming back

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about"

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Those guilty should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?"

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

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"Well this thread has increased the block list.

Can you add me too to your ever increasing block list, please. Thank you"

You're welcome

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London

Think it's more of a cultural thing rather than a religious thing. Don't you think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think it's more of a cultural thing rather than a religious thing. Don't you think? "

Same shit

Half of their traditions are actually cultural but disguised as religious

Just an excuse to surprese the Jews and women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think it's more of a cultural thing rather than a religious thing. Don't you think? "
its a male thing I think. No culture or religion is above pack mentality, a large group of men gathered together under certain circumstances especially with drink or drugs will always cause some to go beyond normal behaviour

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Mr ddc

Yes

It's bad they are dyi

Coming to Germany and Uk isn't the answer

Many other safe countries they could go to

Loads in the Middle East

I thought the general consensus was that much of the Middle East wasn't very safe.

Would you be okay if we let in the nice rich, professional, Christian ones?

No, we should not let the wealthy, rich, professional, Christian ones into Germany either as we have plenty of our own professionals. We have not needed immigrants of any kind in Germany, barring seasonal farm-hands from Poland

However, what we do is to invite people into Germany on 10 year permits. It helps both; the foreigners can live, work, attend universities etc, just like any other German citizen. But after 10 years, they must leave Germany. This helps the foreigners and helps us become less insular

These migrants could have all stayed in Turkey or the many countries in between. All those are safe countries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think it's more of a cultural thing rather than a religious thing. Don't you think? its a male thing I think. No culture or religion is above pack mentality, a large group of men gathered together under certain circumstances especially with drink or drugs will always cause some to go beyond normal behaviour"

Didn't think Muslims did drink or drugs???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west "

I'm sorry but you can't call yourself liberal if your reaction to mass assault depends on the nationality or religion of perpetrators. Sexual assault against women happens without any religious agenda. Don't pretend to care about women's rights when you see an opportunity to bash Muslims.

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over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Forget the sexual assaults

Kick them out ofmeurope for no reason other than they don't belong

Don't need to hide behind sexual assult as the justification

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then you are mistaken. Some do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Forget the sexual assaults

Kick them out ofmeurope for no reason other than they don't belong

Don't need to hide behind sexual assult as the justification "

So you're a xenophobe?

Excellent, glad we cleared that up.

Why don't they belong?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Those guilty should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I have not heard of thousands of British men ganging up and raping Cypriot women. When did this happen?

And in answer to your question, yes, once convicted they should serve their sentence in a Cypriot prison and then deported and permantely excluded from Cyprus

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London

Didn't think Muslims did drink or drugs???"

Yeah they do... course they do

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

There race, religion or nationality is irrelavant. The question is why they were permitted into Germany when they travelled through several safe countries but did not want to stay in those countries, Do you know why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Forget the sexual assaults

Kick them out ofmeurope for no reason other than they don't belong

Don't need to hide behind sexual assult as the justification

So you're a xenophobe?

Excellent, glad we cleared that up.

Why don't they belong?"

No - just don't agree with mass immigration

Leads to a dilution of culture and values

Leads to poor integration and assimilation

Completely different cultures and norms which don't belong together

Let's thinks

If 1 million white Europeans all depended on say and area in China - would they put up with it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn't think Muslims did drink or drugs???

Yeah they do... course they do"

Not very good Muslims

Won't go to heaven and get their 72 virgins!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Funny that am just your average guy not into politics but hate how everyone believe the propaganda that's out there "

Which side's?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Enlighten me please

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

God you lot type fast!

I can't speak for Germany Josie, only that I thought there was a demographic issue in the longterm. Did Merkel make a misjudgement when she invited a million people in without proper planning? Possibly, but I still don't think an entire race, religion or ethnicity should be slurred on the basis of 11 sexual assault perpetrators.

As for Britain we are muddling immigration with asylum, adding crime and casual racism, and coming to a conclusion that doesn't sound very British to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Bingo

UN provisions for the next safest country

Yet they seem to get all the way through France and into the UK

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Forget the sexual assaults

Kick them out ofmeurope for no reason other than they don't belong

Don't need to hide behind sexual assult as the justification

So you're a xenophobe?

Excellent, glad we cleared that up.

Why don't they belong?"

Let us let every economic migrant from anywhere in the word in then. Surely, they all belong here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Enlighten me please"

The second they do they lose their refugee status and become Illegal Immigrants

So sexual assault or not they have committed a crime

For that reason alone they should be deported

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over a year ago

"Those guilty should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I have not heard of thousands of British men ganging up and raping Cypriot women. When did this happen?

And in answer to your question, yes, once convicted they should serve their sentence in a Cypriot prison and then deported and permantely excluded from Cyprus"

I never said rape. I never said Cypriot. I said grope, assault and intimidate. And my comment of 1000s was based on I saw it in 100s over 6 years in Cyprus , so take into account Greece, Spain , Ibiza etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Forget the sexual assaults

Kick them out ofmeurope for no reason other than they don't belong

Don't need to hide behind sexual assult as the justification

So you're a xenophobe?

Excellent, glad we cleared that up.

Why don't they belong?

No - just don't agree with mass immigration

Leads to a dilution of culture and values

Leads to poor integration and assimilation

Completely different cultures and norms which don't belong together

Let's thinks

If 1 million white Europeans all depended on say and area in China - would they put up with it? "

Good lord, where do you think culture comes from? Culture is the product of interaction over thousands of years. Cultural syncretism is a beautiful and natural thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"God you lot type fast!

As for Britain we are muddling immigration with asylum, adding crime and casual racism, and coming to a conclusion that doesn't sound very British to me."

Immigration and asylum - different mechanism - same thing is diluting the britishness of this country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron has agreed to take up to 20,000 asylum seekers by 2020.

Is he putting British women at risk from being attacked, and should he be blamed if it happens?

No because we aren't just letting in all the men who make the journey here.

We are taking those in real need from the camps in turkey who have applied properly.

Very different, we are taking desperate refuges qho will likley need a lot of treatment.

Germany wanted to flood the country with strong young men for cheap labour and thats what they got.

just they dont seem interested in being cheap labour given the average German is walking around with a few hundred quid worth of nice phones etc that makes easy pickings.

Germany has plenty of cheap labour

Real wages haven't risen much since unification

Also - the ones we let in - like they have been vetted correctly

Also - why let them in in the first place

This is a middle Eastern civil war

Saudi Arabia has a tented city which can hold 2 million people for the trip to Mecca

Not once have they offered the Syrians refugee

And they are a middle eastern Muslim country

Yet the offer Germany 200 mosques paid for by them

Simp,y put no one wants them and we are soft for saying yes

These liberal values will be the end of us

Also - lots aren't even Syrian - there's a whole bunch of people flooding into Europe - which will turn into a sinking ship - that aren't from war zones

Germany's population is aging.

Merkel needed a big influx of young healthy workers to sure up the future.

I dont think it has turned out how she intended.

And the issue legality is greatly muddied by the fact she invited them to come.

That is absolute rubbish

Germany doesn't need 'strong young men' as we have plenty of strong young men of our own

Neither do we need any technological boost from the migrants. We are world leaders in manufacturing and technology

They do not add any value to the German economy; instead they are a drain on our economy. They do not speak our language nor do they respect our culture or values

I don't know if we can now send them all back but we must put a stop the the millions more who are desperate to enter Germany"

Where did i mention a technological boost? (Why the fuck would there even be one?)

Germany faces the same problem every developed nation faces.

The populations average age is getting older, the birth rate is dropping and people are living longer.

This means more useless old people on pensions for decades, on expensive medications and being paid for by the state.

This needs more and more young people to work to pay for them (our economies are based on perpetual growth like a pyramid scheme).

Every western nation needs immigration at this point to survive.

I think merkal wanted to make a politcal point but seriously did not expect the sheer bulk of numbers to turn up.

Also the fact that people from that region are famously bad at intergrating doesnt help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Forget the sexual assaults

Kick them out ofmeurope for no reason other than they don't belong

Don't need to hide behind sexual assult as the justification

So you're a xenophobe?

Excellent, glad we cleared that up.

Why don't they belong?

No - just don't agree with mass immigration

Leads to a dilution of culture and values

Leads to poor integration and assimilation

Completely different cultures and norms which don't belong together

Let's thinks

If 1 million white Europeans all depended on say and area in China - would they put up with it?

Good lord, where do you think culture comes from? Culture is the product of interaction over thousands of years. Cultural syncretism is a beautiful and natural thing. "

Our culture is fine

Doesn't need a backward feudal religion like Islam fucking it up

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Immigration and asylum - different mechanism - same thing is diluting the britishness of this country "

It reminds me of the casual racism I experienced working in North Wales where I was initially perceived as English, till I pointed out that my ginger hair made me more Celtic than they were!

Are they diluting the Britishness of the Celts, Saxons, Vikings, Normans, French or Dutch? And when two cultures intertwine, why is that always bad? If it wasn't for Moorish Spain, with their mix of Muslim, Jew and Christian, we'd all still be living in the dark ages

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"God you lot type fast!

As for Britain we are muddling immigration with asylum, adding crime and casual racism, and coming to a conclusion that doesn't sound very British to me."

Ofcourse you are correct; I agree that we should not punish an entire group just because of 11 people or even 1000 people from that group. However, why is that group there in the first place. This group of 1.1 million could just as well had stayed in Romania or Hungary, but they chose not to. This is clearly our (Germany's) fault. We should simply not permitted them to cross our border. But how does one stop tens of thousands in a mob from crossing a border? Well, we can't. It was almost like an invasion

And this is not about race or religion. I have no idea what religion these people follow, if any. Although I suspect that the majority are Muslim and some are Christian

So far, 30 have been identified out of which 11 do not, yet, have German citizenship. The Chief of Police in Koln has been fired for changing the reports so not to mention that these were migrants

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Immigration and asylum - different mechanism - same thing is diluting the britishness of this country

It reminds me of the casual racism I experienced working in North Wales where I was initially perceived as English, till I pointed out that my ginger hair made me more Celtic than they were!

Yes - a lots changed since the moors

Islam has gone backward

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Forget the sexual assaults

Kick them out ofmeurope for no reason other than they don't belong

Don't need to hide behind sexual assult as the justification

So you're a xenophobe?

Excellent, glad we cleared that up.

Why don't they belong?

No - just don't agree with mass immigration

Leads to a dilution of culture and values

Leads to poor integration and assimilation

Completely different cultures and norms which don't belong together

Let's thinks

If 1 million white Europeans all depended on say and area in China - would they put up with it?

Good lord, where do you think culture comes from? Culture is the product of interaction over thousands of years. Cultural syncretism is a beautiful and natural thing.

Our culture is fine

Doesn't need a backward feudal religion like Islam fucking it up"

I'm sure that's exactly what the Romans said, and the Angles, and the Normans. Change is good. Chill out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"God you lot type fast!

As for Britain we are muddling immigration with asylum, adding crime and casual racism, and coming to a conclusion that doesn't sound very British to me.

And this is not about race or religion. I have no idea what religion these people follow, if any. Although I suspect that the majority are Muslim and some are Christian

So far, 30 have been identified out of which 11 do not, yet, have German citizenship. The Chief of Police in Koln has been fired for changing the reports so not to mention that these were migrants"

Simple

Send in the army

Shoot them at the border

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Bingo

UN provisions for the next safest country

Yet they seem to get all the way through France and into the UK"

Where does it?

Can you quote me the specific article?

Because i looked through the geneva convention a while ago it doesnt forbid it however it does alow for different treatment for people who travel illegally from safe country to safe country (you cannot tewat a seeker differently for traveling illegaly from an unsafe countey to a safe countey).

But it doesnt say it makes thier claim invalid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good lord the amount of "us" and "them" talk is astounding... These are human beings you're talking about

Those asylum seekers are behaving like animals by attacking German women.

I have never heard a story about asylum seekers attacking Muslim women.

Why do asylum seekers prey on innocent white women?

Yes

Remember the sex grooming cases in Oldham

Muslim men praying on 'week' white women

Islam has no respect for women - not like we do in the educated liberal west

Bingo

UN provisions for the next safest country

Yet they seem to get all the way through France and into the UK

Where does it?

Can you quote me the specific article?

But it doesnt say it makes thier claim invalid

I'll research it and come back

Let's prove it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well this thread has increased the block list. "

And not one shit was given that day...