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By *nfamy OP Man
over a year ago

Goole

It really grinds my gears when Celebrity say" my teacher was such an inspiration to me". I never have felt that way.

Have I missed out?

I would like to say it hasn't affected me but it probably has, but that's how the cookie crumbles

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

yes and also god for bid it,s always the best pupil in the school that gets murdered

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah i have a few teachers who gave me inspiration and drive to be who i am.

If i didnt relate and like the teacher id certainly not enjoy that class at school. I wasnt the brightest spark but the enthusiasm and passion some teachers had just rubbed off on me and i became more interested in Maths and Science.

As i became better academically i liked seeing 'A' grades and left me feeling better about my own achievements so i continued on with A levels with those..

So yes, great teachers inspired me to be my best and moulded my interests

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a cliche but I think a GOOD teacher can inspire. Most of my teachers were ok but just doing their job - so I can see where you're coming from OP.

But there was one in particular I look back on (my Geography teacher) who was excellent and enthusiastic and really brought everything to life and yeah, looking back I think they were quite inspirational!

It's the same in any walk of life though, I've had some shit managers but also some inspirational ones - I think it's the person not the profession that counts!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Teacher, no.

University lecturer, yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't really remember any who I thought were amazing and inspirational or any who were so bad they had a lasting impression either. They were mostly all just good teachers. But then I was a right swot so I didn't really need inspiring.

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By *nfamy OP Man
over a year ago

Goole

"It's a cliche but I think a GOOD teacher can inspire. Most of my teachers were ok but just doing their job - so I can see where you're coming from OP.

It's the same in any walk of life though, I've had some shit managers but also some inspirational ones - I think it's the person not the profession that counts!

That's what I mean but that's life

I worry about my nephew because he's not gifted academically but he's gifted in other ways

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My maths teacher. I struggled a lot as a young teen with home stuff and balancing stress levels, and he distracted me from it all. I think he had similar issues and saw himself in me.

It probably helped that I always loved maths, but he'd take the time to sit and play Go with me at lunch or set me extra questions to distract me in other times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have I missed out?

No, my teachers were professionals doing their job. Some were better than others but I enjoyed or disliked subjects irrespective of the teacher. No teacher on earth could make me enjoy maths and the worst teacher couldn't stop me enjoying sport.

Some people need inspiring. Others don't. You are who you are.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I had one, I was a fucking nightmare at school.

But he understood me, listened to me, saw the person that was buried inside.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had teachers who have changed the way I've thought about things. I don't mean that they made me like subjects that I didn't previously like, I mean that they taught me how to look at the world and at issues in a different way.

I am thankful to them for being so good at what they do.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think he had similar issues and saw himself in me.

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Teachers shouldn't really think about their pupils in such a way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

School was very underwhelming, grey and mind crushingly boring to the point I've forgotten it for the most part and can barely remember a teachers name...glad to see the back of it still so no, I wouldn't worry that you had no great inspirational teachers...I'm sure many don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My science teacher was inspiring.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Having spent 10 yrs at 2 different boarding schools, I think teachers have much more of an impact on your life than if you want to the local comprehensive/grammar school.

Obviously we had more contact with our housemaster than other teachers, but they were all there pretty much 24/7. Even some of the "old fogies" were interesting and had a sense of humour, although one or two of the other pupils might have begged to differ

Miss Edwards our music teacher was pretty hot though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"School was very underwhelming, grey and mind crushingly boring to the point I've forgotten it for the most part and can barely remember a teachers name...glad to see the back of it still so no, I wouldn't worry that you had no great inspirational teachers...I'm sure many don't. "

In broad strokes, my friends that were 'brilliant' at school have been averagely successful in their careers afterwards. The people I know that have been successful in their careers were average at school.

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By *onnie55Man
over a year ago

Port Talbot

"It's a cliche but I think a GOOD teacher can inspire. Most of my teachers were ok but just doing their job - so I can see where you're coming from OP.

It's the same in any walk of life though, I've had some shit managers but also some inspirational ones - I think it's the person not the profession that counts!

Agreed..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think he had similar issues and saw himself in me.

Teachers shouldn't really think about their pupils in such a way.

I think it's difficult to avoid relatable problems which are incredibly specific. Not many people have experienced similar things, so to find someone else who has been through the same and can relate is something most would appreciate.

As long as no boundaries are crossed, I don't see a problem in that. It helped me in terms of social development.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of my friends and old schoolmates the ones who excelled at school are for the most part still doing really well now. But there are definitely some of my friends who were a bit middle of the road at school who found their niche when they were older.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lots of people inspired me, a couple of teachers, some sports coaches and mostly my parents. Success is not defined by exam results at 16 or 18 or your degree. They can ne helpful, but it is how you develop as a person and apply yourself that matters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It really grinds my gears when Celebrity say" my teacher was such an inspiration to me". I never have felt that way.

Have I missed out?

I would like to say it hasn't affected me but it probably has, but that's how the cookie crumbles "
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Some people are born great and others have greatness thrust upon them!

And other have it in for them from the beginning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I say, broad strokes and just my own experience. Some people thrive on having a structured environment - be at this class at this time, read these books and answer these exam questions. Well the real world isn't like that for most of us!

For me, that kind of environment is boring, depressing and frankly cruel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me, that kind of environment is boring, depressing and frankly cruel."

90% of the work environment is pretty boring and depressing though so it's a good preparation

I think it's probably because I didn't go to the greatest school - so if you did well there it was because you were quite motivated and wanted to learn and get on by yourself. I did go to uni with a lot of people from schools where they'd been totally spoon fed and not all of them have done particularly well for themselves despite their clutch of As from school.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Teaching is an incredibly hard job. I dont envy those who work in schools one bit.

I have been inspired by a few gems during my life, teachers, coaches and managers.

I hope that l have been as inspirational to others as they were to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me, that kind of environment is boring, depressing and frankly cruel.

90% of the work environment is pretty boring and depressing though so it's a good preparation

90%??? A recent study put an average figure of 30% spent on mindless tasks like admin, expense processing and pointless meetings. I'd say if more than 30% is that dire then hit up monster!

Anyway, you accurately described the phenomenon I was alluding to. I went to 2 schools, both above average in results terms and there was a heck of a lot of spoon feeding going on. Probably why the results were good!

Whereas I was always getting in trouble for pointing out inconveniences to the teachers, such as German being a fairly pointless language to learn. No offence to Germans, I love you, just not your language. Why a school would offer German rather than Arabic, Spanish or Chinese is beyond me, assuming school is about education (which it isn't).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me, that kind of environment is boring, depressing and frankly cruel.

90% of the work environment is pretty boring and depressing though so it's a good preparation

90%??? A recent study put an average figure of 30% spent on mindless tasks like admin, expense processing and pointless meetings. I'd say if more than 30% is that dire then hit up monster!

Not 90% of my job, I love my job. But lots of jobs are pretty fucking boring. I've done jobs in call centres etc where 100% of the time was horrible drudgery.

I voluntarily took German at school because I liked the structure and the rules of it. Same reason I loved Latin.

I like things that help my brain rather than things that are "relevant" though...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me, that kind of environment is boring, depressing and frankly cruel.

90% of the work environment is pretty boring and depressing though so it's a good preparation

90%??? A recent study put an average figure of 30% spent on mindless tasks like admin, expense processing and pointless meetings. I'd say if more than 30% is that dire then hit up monster!

Not 90% of my job, I love my job. But lots of jobs are pretty fucking boring. I've done jobs in call centres etc where 100% of the time was horrible drudgery.

I voluntarily took German at school because I liked the structure and the rules of it. Same reason I loved Latin.

I like things that help my brain rather than things that are "relevant" though..."

Yeah then we get into a debate about whether school should be about learning for the love of learning or preparing kids for life in the economy. I don't care for such debates, but naturally my bias to for the latter.

Personally, I need a 'reason' to learn something and will be very stubborn if the 'reason' isn't compelling. Hence school was something of a struggle. The teachers were nice enough, but many were like salesmen with crap products. I might like to person but I ain't buying something just to make them happy! It's not that I think people shouldn't learn German, music, geography etc if they want to. I just don't think they are strategically important enough to be forced on anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me, that kind of environment is boring, depressing and frankly cruel.

90% of the work environment is pretty boring and depressing though so it's a good preparation

90%??? A recent study put an average figure of 30% spent on mindless tasks like admin, expense processing and pointless meetings. I'd say if more than 30% is that dire then hit up monster!

Not 90% of my job, I love my job. But lots of jobs are pretty fucking boring. I've done jobs in call centres etc where 100% of the time was horrible drudgery.

I voluntarily took German at school because I liked the structure and the rules of it. Same reason I loved Latin.

I like things that help my brain rather than things that are "relevant" though...

I've got deja vu, seems I've said this before. So all I'll say is you liked a 'reason' to learn something and disliked learning for the sake of learning. I was much more motivated by learning for the sake of learning rather than just "learn this because it'll get you a job" and i would have totally hated school if that had been imposed on me. So there's no one-size fits all and someone is always going to be frustrated by the way it's done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As i say, I don't have any problem with people who want to learn for the sake of it. What I have a problem with is the idea that the average pupil isn't mature enough to drop subjects until they are 13, in effect being forced down the learning for learning sake route.

I remember my first music and french lessons vividly and I could have told the teachers then and there that we were wasting each others time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember my first music and french lessons vividly and I could have told the teachers then and there that we were wasting each others time! "

But if you weren't forced down the learning for learning sake route you'd be forced down the "must be relevant and employable skills" route which is just as pointless and offputting for a child who wants to do algebra or learn Latin or play the drums. And it assumes a degree of knowledge about the future - I'm not *that* old but I think the majority of people when I was at school would have thought European languages would be far more useful than Arabic or Chinese. (And actually German has been useful for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember my first music and french lessons vividly and I could have told the teachers then and there that we were wasting each others time!

But if you weren't forced down the learning for learning sake route you'd be forced down the "must be relevant and employable skills" route "

How so? If kids could choose their subjects at say, age 11, rather than 13 then you'd be free to learn German and I'd be off doing Chinese - who loses?

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

"It really grinds my gears when Celebrity say" my teacher was such an inspiration to me". I never have felt that way.

Have I missed out?

I would like to say it hasn't affected me but it probably has, but that's how the cookie crumbles "

What really surprises me is the number of former pupils who keep in touch with teachers - even become friends...and how is it loads of 'stars' and actors were at school with other 'stars and actors'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm thankful that i had the opportunity to briefly do the "pointless" subjects at school even though they didn't necessarily interest me nor benefit me in my choosen career. Surely the whole point of school is to give you a little insight into various subjects to help you decide in later life what your interests are and where your talents lie? How do you know if you never get to try? What a dull place school would be if we only learnt specific job related subjects.

My French teacher was hated and feared by the entire school. But she inspired me and i went from being completely atrocious at French in the first 2 years at secondary school to getting an A in my gcse. I don't think i would have done that with a different teacher.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember my first music and french lessons vividly and I could have told the teachers then and there that we were wasting each others time!

But if you weren't forced down the learning for learning sake route you'd be forced down the "must be relevant and employable skills" route

How so? If kids could choose their subjects at say, age 11, rather than 13 then you'd be free to learn German and I'd be off doing Chinese - who loses?

What school has the capacity to offer all those different options? In reality you end up with a small number of subjects being offered because that's what can be taught. So if it all had to be "useful" languages and applied maths rather than pure maths that would force out the more esoteric stuff. (Which is already being pushed out by the likes of business studies in most schools anyway).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember my first music and french lessons vividly and I could have told the teachers then and there that we were wasting each others time!

But if you weren't forced down the learning for learning sake route you'd be forced down the "must be relevant and employable skills" route

How so? If kids could choose their subjects at say, age 11, rather than 13 then you'd be free to learn German and I'd be off doing Chinese - who loses?

My high school gave us the option of Chinese, Latin, Spanish, Ancient Greek, and Latin.

Useful stuff, you say?

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember my first music and french lessons vividly and I could have told the teachers then and there that we were wasting each others time!

But if you weren't forced down the learning for learning sake route you'd be forced down the "must be relevant and employable skills" route

How so? If kids could choose their subjects at say, age 11, rather than 13 then you'd be free to learn German and I'd be off doing Chinese - who loses?

To be honest there weren't any subjects I really resented once I got to drop some, it's not really about adding more subjects as it is not forcing all of them on everyone for so long

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember my first music and french lessons vividly and I could have told the teachers then and there that we were wasting each others time!

But if you weren't forced down the learning for learning sake route you'd be forced down the "must be relevant and employable skills" route

How so? If kids could choose their subjects at say, age 11, rather than 13 then you'd be free to learn German and I'd be off doing Chinese - who loses?

My high school gave us the option of Chinese, Latin, Spanish, Ancient Greek, and Latin.

Useful stuff, you say?

-Courtney"

Lucky you! I had to do Latin in my own time because there wasn't time in the timetable to fit it in with all the compulsory subjects I had to do like sodding Technology. Would have loved to have done Ancient Greek too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It really grinds my gears when Celebrity say" my teacher was such an inspiration to me". I never have felt that way.

Have I missed out?

I would like to say it hasn't affected me but it probably has, but that's how the cookie crumbles .

Some people are born great and others have greatness thrust upon them!

And other have it in for them from the beginning

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Infamy _nfamy... Ohhh it was wasted on you lot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm thankful that i had the opportunity to briefly do the "pointless" subjects at school even though they didn't necessarily interest me nor benefit me in my choosen career. Surely the whole point of school is to give you a little insight into various subjects to help you decide in later life what your interests are and where your talents lie? How do you know if you never get to try? What a dull place school would be if we only learnt specific job related subjects.

Im not really disagreeing with that, what I contesting is the point at which pupils should be able to determine that they've had their test of the subjects and know which ones they want to continue with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we go a bit narrow too early, but universities then complain that students have a very basic understanding of the subjects that they take for degrees as it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hated my music teacher for example. She was one of those Nazi's who didn't understand her subject was somewhat marmite and of questionable value to those who didn't like it. Instead of just letting guys who don't like singing mime the words, she constantly check you were actually doing it. I'd sooner fuck in front of a room of people than sing in front of them.

For a teenage boy with balls in the process of dropping, a squeaky voice and absolutely no musical inclination that was frankly sadistic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we go a bit narrow too early, but universities then complain that students have a very basic understanding of the subjects that they take for degrees as it is. "

And employers, in turn, complain that graduates know fuck all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My high school gave us the option of Chinese, Latin, Spanish, Ancient Greek, and Latin.

Useful stuff, you say?

-Courtney"

Languages ranked by number of speakers in millions and percentage of global population

1 Mandarin 935 (955) 14.1%

2 Spanish 390 (405) 5.85%

3 English 365 (360) 5.52%

4 Hindi 295[3] (310)[4] 4.46%

5 Arabic 280 (295) 4.23%

AS for Greek and Latin, they provided the linguistic roots of most modern European languages as well as seminal work in Philosophy, Prose, Mathematics etc. Latin is the root language of the naming systems in vast tracts of scientific endeavour.

Why is one of the most highly rated degrees at Oxford one in Classics?

dictum sapienti sat est

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My high school gave us the option of Chinese, Latin, Spanish, Ancient Greek, and Latin.

Useful stuff, you say?

-Courtney

Languages ranked by number of speakers in millions and percentage of global population

1 Mandarin 935 (955) 14.1%

2 Spanish 390 (405) 5.85%

3 English 365 (360) 5.52%

4 Hindi 295[3] (310)[4] 4.46%

5 Arabic 280 (295) 4.23%

Why is one of the most highly rated degrees at Oxford one in Classics?

dictum sapienti sat est

Two things, now factor into those languages the % of those speakers who don't speak English. In other words, by learning Chinese you can now communicate with about 700m more people than you could before, how many germans don't speak English?

Second, the idea that a smart person can get their head around anything is nonsense. I'm an analyst and unless you have the right personality, you have absolutely no chance of succeeding in our industry. It relies on skills you can't teach and generalists perform terribly at it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My high school gave us the option of Chinese, Latin, Spanish, Ancient Greek, and Latin.

Useful stuff, you say?

-Courtney

Languages ranked by number of speakers in millions and percentage of global population

1 Mandarin 935 (955) 14.1%

2 Spanish 390 (405) 5.85%

3 English 365 (360) 5.52%

4 Hindi 295[3] (310)[4] 4.46%

5 Arabic 280 (295) 4.23%

Why is one of the most highly rated degrees at Oxford one in Classics?

dictum sapienti sat est

German is is very trickly language, and business German bloody difficult! I'm amazed more schools aren't teaching Mandarin.

And most jobs require a certain set of skills and personalities that we only work out as we get older.

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

My high school gave us the option of Chinese, Latin, Spanish, Ancient Greek, and Latin.

Useful stuff, you say?

-Courtney

Languages ranked by number of speakers in millions and percentage of global population

1 Mandarin 935 (955) 14.1%

2 Spanish 390 (405) 5.85%

3 English 365 (360) 5.52%

4 Hindi 295[3] (310)[4] 4.46%

5 Arabic 280 (295) 4.23%

Why is one of the most highly rated degrees at Oxford one in Classics?

dictum sapienti sat est

German is is very trickly language, and business German bloody difficult! I'm amazed more schools aren't teaching Mandarin.

And most jobs require a certain set of skills and personalities that we only work out as we get older."

Because the chinese are learning English. Mixed couple, are you saying whatvi think you're saying that if you include second language speakers of English, English is the widest spoken. If so I'd agree. It's not the largest number that matters it's the most influential and that is english because most films and books produced worldwide are english and because the US and everyone who is anyone in europe speaks English. English now has a critical mass and it is the must learn language...lucky us!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My high school gave us the option of Chinese, Latin, Spanish, Ancient Greek, and Latin.

Useful stuff, you say?

-Courtney

Languages ranked by number of speakers in millions and percentage of global population

1 Mandarin 935 (955) 14.1%

2 Spanish 390 (405) 5.85%

3 English 365 (360) 5.52%

4 Hindi 295[3] (310)[4] 4.46%

5 Arabic 280 (295) 4.23%

Why is one of the most highly rated degrees at Oxford one in Classics?

dictum sapienti sat est

German is is very trickly language, and business German bloody difficult! I'm amazed more schools aren't teaching Mandarin.

And most jobs require a certain set of skills and personalities that we only work out as we get older.

Ummm I was saying that learning chinese enables you to communicate with lots of new people because hardly anyone over 40 in China speaks English. However, even if you master German, most of them could have spoken to you in English anyway so you aren't communicating with many people you otherwise wouldn't have.

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

My high school gave us the option of Chinese, Latin, Spanish, Ancient Greek, and Latin.

Useful stuff, you say?

-Courtney

Languages ranked by number of speakers in millions and percentage of global population

1 Mandarin 935 (955) 14.1%

2 Spanish 390 (405) 5.85%

3 English 365 (360) 5.52%

4 Hindi 295[3] (310)[4] 4.46%

5 Arabic 280 (295) 4.23%

Why is one of the most highly rated degrees at Oxford one in Classics?

dictum sapienti sat est

German is is very trickly language, and business German bloody difficult! I'm amazed more schools aren't teaching Mandarin.

And most jobs require a certain set of skills and personalities that we only work out as we get older.

Yes but that will change as the young will all speak English.

In the end English will be the international language. Even now if two people from different countries meet anywhere in the world they will naturally resort to english to communicate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My high school gave us the option of Chinese, Latin, Spanish, Ancient Greek, and Latin.

Useful stuff, you say?

-Courtney

Languages ranked by number of speakers in millions and percentage of global population

1 Mandarin 935 (955) 14.1%

2 Spanish 390 (405) 5.85%

3 English 365 (360) 5.52%

4 Hindi 295[3] (310)[4] 4.46%

5 Arabic 280 (295) 4.23%

Why is one of the most highly rated degrees at Oxford one in Classics?

dictum sapienti sat est

German is is very trickly language, and business German bloody difficult! I'm amazed more schools aren't teaching Mandarin.

And most jobs require a certain set of skills and personalities that we only work out as we get older.

Yes but that will change as the young will all speak English.

In the end English will be the international language. Even now if two people from different countries meet anywhere in the world they will naturally resort to english to communicate."

Sort of, the vast majority of Chinese people over 40 are past the point they are going to learn English. They are going to be in the business world for another 25 - 30 years and in the senior positions. So if British companies want to get into that market, as Mr Cameron suggests we do, then our young need to learn Chinese not their old learn English.

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

My careers teacher was a great inspiration to me

He told me I was aiming too high for wanting to go to university so I had to prove him wrong

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