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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really !!!! no. Just no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack? "

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack? "

Please don't dabble with steroids. It's a really bad idea and will cause permanent and irreparable damage to your body.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan. "

They aren't illegal. Just not allowed in professional sports and should only be prescribed and administered by a qualified professional.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan. "

Yeh I'm doin some research ,There's a few lads who are on it now in the gym I go to ,they have only been training for about 3 months ,they don't even train properly an there diets are shite but they have body's like Greek gods

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

Yeh I'm doin some research ,There's a few lads who are on it now in the gym I go to ,they have only been training for about 3 months ,they don't even train properly an there diets are shite but they have body's like Greek gods "

What's your goal then what do we want to achieve?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack? "

Steroids are bad news, my advice would be don't touch them. There may be a lot of pressure for men to look better or have bigger muscles in today's society but the negative side effects of taking steroids are far worse than any benefit you could ever gain. Much better to do it with a healthy natural diet and putting in the hard work at the gym, bin the steroids idea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stay away from that crap, eat well and train hard. I've trained hard for 25 years and used to compete, can bench and deadlift more than most blokes and that incudes guys on steroids. There really is no need to put stuff into your body you don't need and, your bollocks will shrink!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

To Build as much mass as i can for a better foundation to work from naturally

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

Yeh I'm doin some research ,There's a few lads who are on it now in the gym I go to ,they have only been training for about 3 months ,they don't even train properly an there diets are shite but they have body's like Greek gods "

Long term side effects is an enlarged heart more risk of stroke or heart attack when they get older. Possible Short term side effects, mood swings, Acne, there are other side effects but I can't remember without looking at Google.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

They aren't illegal. Just not allowed in professional sports and should only be prescribed and administered by a qualified professional."

No medical professional will prescribe them for the purpose of body building.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Steroids are bad news, my advice would be don't touch them. There may be a lot of pressure for men to look better or have bigger muscles in today's society but the negative side effects of taking steroids are far worse than any benefit you could ever gain. Much better to do it with a healthy natural diet and putting in the hard work at the gym, bin the steroids idea. "

I do agree with yeh but I have been training since I was 18 ,just need to take that next step

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Choose a good diet for your needs, high in protein fruit etc there is plenary advice on Google.

Go to a good gym with good instructors work hard and you won't need steroids

Good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To Build as much mass as i can for a better foundation to work from naturally "

Then bench press, deadlift, squat and press heavy. Any gains built on steroids will be lost pretty quickly where as solid muscle built over time won't. You will, as others have said, also do untold damage to your internal organs and heart but if how you look is more important than your health then crack on.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Stay away from that crap, eat well and train hard. I've trained hard for 25 years and used to compete, can bench and deadlift more than most blokes and that incudes guys on steroids. There really is no need to put stuff into your body you don't need and, your bollocks will shrink!! "

Wat can u bench

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stay away from that crap, eat well and train hard. I've trained hard for 25 years and used to compete, can bench and deadlift more than most blokes and that incudes guys on steroids. There really is no need to put stuff into your body you don't need and, your bollocks will shrink!!

Wat can u bench "

130kg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

DONT DO IT !! simples

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Stay away from that crap, eat well and train hard. I've trained hard for 25 years and used to compete, can bench and deadlift more than most blokes and that incudes guys on steroids. There really is no need to put stuff into your body you don't need and, your bollocks will shrink!!

Wat can u bench

130kg"

Impressive ,how many reps can u get out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To Build as much mass as i can for a better foundation to work from naturally "

Train harder. Eat cleaner.

If you keep training hard you'll get stronger, fitter, and healthier without the awful risks of illness (and death...).

I used to be a personal trainer and I know loads of guys who thought they'd get a quick win by taking steroids. They did, but they also got sick. And NONE of them looked as good as the natural guys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stay away from that crap, eat well and train hard. I've trained hard for 25 years and used to compete, can bench and deadlift more than most blokes and that incudes guys on steroids. There really is no need to put stuff into your body you don't need and, your bollocks will shrink!!

Wat can u bench

130kg

Impressive ,how many reps can u get out "

That was my max, was a British record. Its funny how most ask how much you can bench where a true test of strength is the deadlift, brutally hard work when done heavy and will pack size on like no other but sadly, most don't have the guts and persistence to do them as they're hard work. Well no shit, you get out what you put in in the iron game!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stay away from that crap, eat well and train hard. I've trained hard for 25 years and used to compete, can bench and deadlift more than most blokes and that incudes guys on steroids. There really is no need to put stuff into your body you don't need and, your bollocks will shrink!!

Wat can u bench

130kg

Impressive ,how many reps can u get out

That was my max, was a British record. Its funny how most ask how much you can bench where a true test of strength is the deadlift, brutally hard work when done heavy and will pack size on like no other but sadly, most don't have the guts and persistence to do them as they're hard work. Well no shit, you get out what you put in in the iron game!"

I *loved* deadlifting. Was my favourite lift. And could lift more than some of the 'droidy guys.

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By *rSuave88Man
over a year ago

Mirfield

100% natural here. I dont have any want or urge to need to use steroids, i value my health and wellbeing too much.

However if you do choose to use, then do as much research as u can and do it safely which im sure u will

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Better off using other suppliments like creatine, bcaa, glutamine. Also steroids aren't a majic wand. You have to train like a beast and eat like an animal. Like 2 hours weights a day and 7 or 8 meals. Try that first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan. "

Its actually legal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To Build as much mass as i can for a better foundation to work from naturally "

Right you're 30 years old so your body has grown as much as it can naturally.

You need to have your diet in check before you go down this route, need to look at how you train in the gym and make sure you are training smart, do you allow sufficient recovery, warm up, do stretches, do you do some compounds to failure and push past that? Is your form and technique the best it can be? Basically need to have a proper routine.

You need to have pre cycle bloods done which you can get with your gp but it would involve going in saying you have a problem you might not have got. You can pay for private bloods and you need to be checking your hormones LH, FSH, estrogen, SBGH, prolactin, free testosterone. To name just a few, you need to have these things checked because your are altering all the hormones in your body and when your cycle ends you need to check that you haven't fucked anything up.

Next thing is your personality, are you prone to being a dick head or moody or aggressive? If you are then taking gear will make those emotions stronger, if you're normally quite passive you should be ok.

Next thing can you inject yourself? If you don't think you could you'd have to look at taking orals.

It's complicated as fuck. It's not about just jabbing and then hoping for the best, people that do that are the people that develop problems and have lumps I'm the boobs puffy nipples and tiny balls. Best advice is to just read about everything. I can't name what would be a good first cycle because it is illegal, people make the stuff in bath tubs it's not just frowned upon in the sports world. The stuff you want wouldn't be prescribed medically so I can't say what it is. Just research everything.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

If you go on the juice you will have to change your fab name when your balls shrivel to nothing. You won't be much use to the women on here when the impotence from the lack of testosterone kicks in either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To Build as much mass as i can for a better foundation to work from naturally

Train harder. Eat cleaner.

If you keep training hard you'll get stronger, fitter, and healthier without the awful risks of illness (and death...).

I used to be a personal trainer and I know loads of guys who thought they'd get a quick win by taking steroids. They did, but they also got sick. And NONE of them looked as good as the natural guys."

Sick how exactly?

Given that AAS are the most popular private prescription avmfter viagra and the nhs hand s it out fairly easily as well.

Im curious where youre getting your "omg damage!!!!" From?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good advice Sea witch. Although if op was serious about it he would surely research and most likely get advice from people with the relevant knowledge at his gym. That's probably the best place to ask about steroids not a swingers forum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mate if you wanna do it go for it sounds like you don't plan on taking them forever? If your read up on it an not a complete idiot that's not gonna inject properly why not?? So much pressure on guys nowadays to look good. Most women all you hear oh guys with muscles gotta have muscles social media don't help. Remember when the all pressure use to be on the females

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over a year ago


"To Build as much mass as i can for a better foundation to work from naturally

Right you're 30 years old so your body has grown as much as it can naturally.

You need to have your diet in check before you go down this route, need to look at how you train in the gym and make sure you are training smart, do you allow sufficient recovery, warm up, do stretches, do you do some compounds to failure and push past that? Is your form and technique the best it can be? Basically need to have a proper routine.

You need to have pre cycle bloods done which you can get with your gp but it would involve going in saying you have a problem you might not have got. You can pay for private bloods and you need to be checking your hormones LH, FSH, estrogen, SBGH, prolactin, free testosterone. To name just a few, you need to have these things checked because your are altering all the hormones in your body and when your cycle ends you need to check that you haven't fucked anything up.

Next thing is your personality, are you prone to being a dick head or moody or aggressive? If you are then taking gear will make those emotions stronger, if you're normally quite passive you should be ok.

Next thing can you inject yourself? If you don't think you could you'd have to look at taking orals.

It's complicated as fuck. It's not about just jabbing and then hoping for the best, people that do that are the people that develop problems and have lumps I'm the boobs puffy nipples and tiny balls. Best advice is to just read about everything. I can't name what would be a good first cycle because it is illegal, people make the stuff in bath tubs it's not just frowned upon in the sports world. The stuff you want wouldn't be prescribed medically so I can't say what it is. Just research everything. "

If you want tests doing the pump clinic in manchester will do them and liver function checks for free.

Orals carey more risk because theyre methylated on the 17 (iirc) carbon pass through the liver so are hepatoxic.

Lol at made in bathtubs. Hormones are legal over the counter in most of the world and legal for personal use here, most are bought from a pharmacy then simply walked through the port or airport into the uk or sent via post.

Things like trenbalone are made in undergrounds labs true because its not for human use. But basic testosterone and its esters are usually pharma grade.

Since its your first try just run plain testosterone ethanoate.

You will need as mentioned either serms such as tamoxifen/nolvadex or arimitase inhibitors such as anastrazole/arimadex.

The main thing is the end of your cycle without a proper pct plan (which can be expensive) in place all youve gained will fall off you in a few weeks. (Seen this happen to people and its hilarious all beachse they didnt want "waste" the money)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

Yeh I'm doin some research ,There's a few lads who are on it now in the gym I go to ,they have only been training for about 3 months ,they don't even train properly an there diets are shite but they have body's like Greek gods "

Ask them then

But I will tell you.. It can cause irreversible damage to your body.. Can make you aggressive.. . Can affect your sexual performance and can give you hideous boils.. ... It also looks awful in my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To Build as much mass as i can for a better foundation to work from naturally

Right you're 30 years old so your body has grown as much as it can naturally.

You need to have your diet in check before you go down this route, need to look at how you train in the gym and make sure you are training smart, do you allow sufficient recovery, warm up, do stretches, do you do some compounds to failure and push past that? Is your form and technique the best it can be? Basically need to have a proper routine.

You need to have pre cycle bloods done which you can get with your gp but it would involve going in saying you have a problem you might not have got. You can pay for private bloods and you need to be checking your hormones LH, FSH, estrogen, SBGH, prolactin, free testosterone. To name just a few, you need to have these things checked because your are altering all the hormones in your body and when your cycle ends you need to check that you haven't fucked anything up.

Next thing is your personality, are you prone to being a dick head or moody or aggressive? If you are then taking gear will make those emotions stronger, if you're normally quite passive you should be ok.

Next thing can you inject yourself? If you don't think you could you'd have to look at taking orals.

It's complicated as fuck. It's not about just jabbing and then hoping for the best, people that do that are the people that develop problems and have lumps I'm the boobs puffy nipples and tiny balls. Best advice is to just read about everything. I can't name what would be a good first cycle because it is illegal, people make the stuff in bath tubs it's not just frowned upon in the sports world. The stuff you want wouldn't be prescribed medically so I can't say what it is. Just research everything.

If you want tests doing the pump clinic in manchester will do them and liver function checks for free.

Orals carey more risk because theyre methylated on the 17 (iirc) carbon pass through the liver so are hepatoxic.

Lol at made in bathtubs. Hormones are legal over the counter in most of the world and legal for personal use here, most are bought from a pharmacy then simply walked through the port or airport into the uk or sent via post.

Things like trenbalone are made in undergrounds labs true because its not for human use. But basic testosterone and its esters are usually pharma grade.

Since its your first try just run plain testosterone ethanoate.

You will need as mentioned either serms such as tamoxifen/nolvadex or arimitase inhibitors such as anastrazole/arimadex.

The main thing is the end of your cycle without a proper pct plan (which can be expensive) in place all youve gained will fall off you in a few weeks. (Seen this happen to people and its hilarious all beachse they didnt want "waste" the money)"

Ok so tell this guy he needs enthanate,clomed, nolvadex, arimadex and he's not gonna have a clue how much he jabs, what tabs to take and when and what they're for!

Op have you been training consistently for at least 3 years and physically done all the growing you possibly can?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just research. If you're gonna go down that route at least do it safely.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

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over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

Its actually legal"

Anabolic steroids are not illegal in the UK. They are, however, a drug available only by prescription and anyone supplying them here otherwise is committing a criminal offence.

That is because our experts deem them to be a potentially dangerous substance, strangely enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

Yeh I'm doin some research ,There's a few lads who are on it now in the gym I go to ,they have only been training for about 3 months ,they don't even train properly an there diets are shite but they have body's like Greek gods "

They dont, even with the best cycle on earth you arent getting greek god style body with poor training or bad diet.

They will have both of those down pretty solidly

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over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

Its actually legal

Anabolic steroids are not illegal in the UK. They are, however, a drug available only by prescription and anyone supplying them here otherwise is committing a criminal offence.

That is because our experts deem them to be a potentially dangerous substance, strangely enough."

Supplying is illegal yes.

But you can use carry posses import etx.

Our "experts" said we should legalise mdma and canabis so they got sacked.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

Its actually legal

Anabolic steroids are not illegal in the UK. They are, however, a drug available only by prescription and anyone supplying them here otherwise is committing a criminal offence.

That is because our experts deem them to be a potentially dangerous substance, strangely enough."

anyone selling it down the gym is doing it illegally.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

If you feel the need to do this for you, by all means go ahead, after lots of research .

If however, you are doing this because you think it will improve your chances will the ladies... Forget it. I find that few find the rediculously pumped look attractive.

Nita

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh one thing that hasnt been pointed out though, if youve ever had or are prone to depression. Seriously steer clear.

When you stop even with the best pct in the world and doing everything right you have have no testosterone in your system for a while.

That destroys most normal peoples mood if you have depression etc, expect to be pretty much suicidal

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Short term issues:

Mental stability: unwanted aggression, depression, possible development of bipolar effects .

Severe Acne

Impotence and erectile dysfunction

( no point having the body of a Greek god, if you have a permanently limp dick)

Long term

Enlarged heart , thickened heart walls ( leading to cardiomyopathy and heart attacks;

High blood pressure

Massively Enhanced risk of strokes.

Permanent impotence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

Its actually legal

Anabolic steroids are not illegal in the UK. They are, however, a drug available only by prescription and anyone supplying them here otherwise is committing a criminal offence.

That is because our experts deem them to be a potentially dangerous substance, strangely enough.

Supplying is illegal yes.

But you can use carry posses import etx.

Our "experts" said we should legalise mdma and canabis so they got sacked.

"

Clearly, then, anabolic steroids are safe to use without a medical prescription. You have won the argument. I am convinced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you feel the need to do this for you, by all means go ahead, after lots of research .

If however, you are doing this because you think it will improve your chances will the ladies... Forget it. I find that few find the rediculously pumped look attractive.

Nita "

That's a naive preconception. You can take steroids without looking redicolusly pumped up. The big massive bodybuilders you see on stage are more than likely natty. The guy you see on a Calvin Klein underwear advert he could be assisted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fucking spelt rediculously wrong!

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Twice

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over a year ago


"Fucking spelt rediculously wrong!"

I can never spell that right or garauntee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My advice OP would be to seek out advice on a dedicated steroid forum, where you can speak to all manner of users of different ages, and hear about their experiences - always best to get your info straight from the horses mouth

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington


"Short term issues:

Mental stability: unwanted aggression, depression, possible development of bipolar effects .

Severe Acne

Impotence and erectile dysfunction

( no point having the body of a Greek god, if you have a permanently limp dick)

Long term

Enlarged heart , thickened heart walls ( leading to cardiomyopathy and heart attacks;

High blood pressure

Massively Enhanced risk of strokes.

Permanent impotence.

"

see cake and haribo

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Think very carefully. I nearly died from pancreatic bleeding caused by prescribed steroids.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fucking spelt rediculously wrong!

I can never spell that right or garauntee"

Haha I hate that one as well!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only sensible advice is "DONT TAKE THEM" people should never promote these drugs unless they are for the purpose that they were intended

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think very carefully. I nearly died from pancreatic bleeding caused by prescribed steroids."

Steroids as in anabolic or as in cortical?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only sensible advice is "DONT TAKE THEM" people should never promote these drugs unless they are for the purpose that they were intended "

Improving feed efficency in livestock?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of the pros take 3cc plus 2000ml of test a week. Check out rick pianas 3 month cyckle on you tube. But yeah better to do it naturally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I take Testosterone daily and it's lovely.

Not at an anabolic level though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only sensible advice is "DONT TAKE THEM" people should never promote these drugs unless they are for the purpose that they were intended

Improving feed efficency in livestock?"
Am sure that will come back and bite us in the ass if its not already doing so not just that but pesticides and all that other crap they use in farming

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only sensible advice is "DONT TAKE THEM" people should never promote these drugs unless they are for the purpose that they were intended

Improving feed efficency in livestock?Am sure that will come back and bite us in the ass if its not already doing so not just that but pesticides and all that other crap they use in farming "

I think its mostly been banned in the EU now anyway.

Worst thing we ever did was thinking that making farm animals canables was a sensible idea.

I mean i dont even know how that plan got past the discussion stage

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft

You'll have to change your name BallsDryOfCum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you want advice from someone on a swinging site ?? even the gym types on here dont have a clue ..dont dabble with stuff you know nothing about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only sensible advice is "DONT TAKE THEM" people should never promote these drugs unless they are for the purpose that they were intended

Improving feed efficency in livestock?Am sure that will come back and bite us in the ass if its not already doing so not just that but pesticides and all that other crap they use in farming

I think its mostly been banned in the EU now anyway.

Worst thing we ever did was thinking that making farm animals canables was a sensible idea.

I mean i dont even know how that plan got past the discussion stage"
The route of all evil MONEY just to make extra £$

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You'll have to change your name BallsDryOfCum"

BallsFullofAir

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont forget your post cycle treatment otherwise your balls wont grow back!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only sensible advice is "DONT TAKE THEM" people should never promote these drugs unless they are for the purpose that they were intended

Improving feed efficency in livestock?Am sure that will come back and bite us in the ass if its not already doing so not just that but pesticides and all that other crap they use in farming

I think its mostly been banned in the EU now anyway.

Worst thing we ever did was thinking that making farm animals canables was a sensible idea.

I mean i dont even know how that plan got past the discussion stageThe route of all evil MONEY just to make extra £$ "

Ahh well its cost them incalculable amounts of money in the long run.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"If you feel the need to do this for you, by all means go ahead, after lots of research .

If however, you are doing this because you think it will improve your chances will the ladies... Forget it. I find that few find the rediculously pumped look attractive.

Nita

That's a naive preconception. You can take steroids without looking redicolusly pumped up. The big massive bodybuilders you see on stage are more than likely natty. The guy you see on a Calvin Klein underwear advert he could be assisted. "

You have misunderstood... At no point did I suggest that simply using steroids would have this effect.

However, the OP clearly stated the the wants to build as much mass as possible.

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By *andomfodCouple
over a year ago

walsall

You don't just "dabble" with steroids. You do research. Lots of it. You have to have your diet nailed down tight. Macros, calories etc. You look pretty fit so I can assume you have a decent work out routine.

A lot of new users start with dianobol, an oral steroid. Also research liver protection and protection against oestrogen. It can build up. It's a LOT of research which is why I never bothered. Unless your PCT is nailed down tight, you will lose a lot of gains you make.

Sorry for the ramble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington


"If you feel the need to do this for you, by all means go ahead, after lots of research .

If however, you are doing this because you think it will improve your chances will the ladies... Forget it. I find that few find the rediculously pumped look attractive.

Nita

That's a naive preconception. You can take steroids without looking redicolusly pumped up. The big massive bodybuilders you see on stage are more than likely natty. The guy you see on a Calvin Klein underwear advert he could be assisted.

You have misunderstood... At no point did I suggest that simply using steroids would have this effect.

However, the OP clearly stated the the wants to build as much mass as possible.

"

you said forget it. like there was no other way than being redicously pumped.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"If you feel the need to do this for you, by all means go ahead, after lots of research .

If however, you are doing this because you think it will improve your chances will the ladies... Forget it. I find that few find the rediculously pumped look attractive.

Nita

That's a naive preconception. You can take steroids without looking redicolusly pumped up. The big massive bodybuilders you see on stage are more than likely natty. The guy you see on a Calvin Klein underwear advert he could be assisted.

You have misunderstood... At no point did I suggest that simply using steroids would have this effect.

However, the OP clearly stated the the wants to build as much mass as possible.

you said forget it. like there was no other way than being redicously pumped. "

Chill

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?"

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

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By *andomfodCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun"."

This is true. In the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster, it actually shows the statistics for death via steroid abuse. I'm sure it seriously came 1 rank below vitamin C or something equally as unlikely.

B

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington


"If you feel the need to do this for you, by all means go ahead, after lots of research .

If however, you are doing this because you think it will improve your chances will the ladies... Forget it. I find that few find the rediculously pumped look attractive.

Nita

That's a naive preconception. You can take steroids without looking redicolusly pumped up. The big massive bodybuilders you see on stage are more than likely natty. The guy you see on a Calvin Klein underwear advert he could be assisted.

You have misunderstood... At no point did I suggest that simply using steroids would have this effect.

However, the OP clearly stated the the wants to build as much mass as possible.

you said forget it. like there was no other way than being redicously pumped.

Chill "

perfectly chilled. but then I havent embarrased my self by snottely patronising someone when I was in the wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun"."

I like how you're all pro-roids here but if this were a weight loss thread and anyone asked about specific diets or diet supplements you'd be along with "just eat less and exercise more simples".

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

This is true. In the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster, it actually shows the statistics for death via steroid abuse. I'm sure it seriously came 1 rank below vitamin C or something equally as unlikely.

B"

course of juice would add 20 years to the average obese fabbers lifespan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun"."

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

I have been taking topical steroids for a skin condition, but I dont seem to be getting any more muscle yet

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over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

This is true. In the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster, it actually shows the statistics for death via steroid abuse. I'm sure it seriously came 1 rank below vitamin C or something equally as unlikely.

B

course of juice would add 20 years to the average obese fabbers lifespan. "

How so? Up above it says you still have to have your diet and exercise right or they won't work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?"

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stay away from that crap, eat well and train hard. I've trained hard for 25 years and used to compete, can bench and deadlift more than most blokes and that incudes guys on steroids. There really is no need to put stuff into your body you don't need and, your bollocks will shrink!!

Wat can u bench

130kg

Impressive ,how many reps can u get out

That was my max, was a British record. Its funny how most ask how much you can bench where a true test of strength is the deadlift, brutally hard work when done heavy and will pack size on like no other but sadly, most don't have the guts and persistence to do them as they're hard work. Well no shit, you get out what you put in in the iron game!

I *loved* deadlifting. Was my favourite lift. And could lift more than some of the 'droidy guys."

I hope you're not lifting more than 20kg by yourself otherwise I'll have to fill out a health and safety form for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids."

From a massively, massively, massively (even more massive than the OP on steroids) bigger proportion of the population using them.

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over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

I like how you're all pro-roids here but if this were a weight loss thread and anyone asked about specific diets or diet supplements you'd be along with "just eat less and exercise more simples". "

Im not really pro or anti ive also pointed out the side effects and problems.

Im just trying to give an more realistic answer than the silly scaremongering.

When somone is trying to lose fat then eating less and moving more is the ideal solution steroids arent really going to help (especialy for a woman jesus the damage that could be done there).

If you want specific supliments for weight loss then caffeine/ephedrine are the most common, clenbuterol works well but i think the side effects would put most off, and DNP is pretty much the ultimate solution, take the tablets lie there like a fucking corpse for a few weeks and voila lots of weoght lost...very likely you will die though as getting the dosage right was hard enough when they were prescription let alone some dodgy shit from a bloke round the back of weight watchers.

But yes i stand by the advice that the best way to lose weight is eat less move more.

Best way to gain muscle is eat more and lift more.

Squats and milk anyone?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

From a massively, massively, massively (even more massive than the OP on steroids) bigger proportion of the population using them. "

Also per capita.

Most steroid users will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention except some cosmetic issues with thier new found lactating breasts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

This is true. In the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster, it actually shows the statistics for death via steroid abuse. I'm sure it seriously came 1 rank below vitamin C or something equally as unlikely.

B

course of juice would add 20 years to the average obese fabbers lifespan.

How so? Up above it says you still have to have your diet and exercise right or they won't work. "

Very true a course of juice would be a stupid thing to give an obease person. Thier heart and blood pressure wouldnt be great to start with so the added stress of the drugs and the workouts would be more counter productive along with the appetite increase

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

From a massively, massively, massively (even more massive than the OP on steroids) bigger proportion of the population using them.

Also per capita.

Most steroid users will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention except some cosmetic issues with thier new found lactating breasts

"

Most people who drink two glasses of wine a week will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention. Not even an except in there.

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By *yintotryCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

Balls will be full with less cum. Roids cause the testes to shrink.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

From a massively, massively, massively (even more massive than the OP on steroids) bigger proportion of the population using them.

Also per capita.

Most steroid users will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention except some cosmetic issues with thier new found lactating breasts

Most people who drink two glasses of wine a week will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention. Not even an except in there. "

True, unless they say crash thier car.

however we as a nation have a major issue with binge drinking. Iirc it was between 20-30% of the adult population that was regularly engaging in binge drinking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids."

Because its a sweeping statement. Ive never taken drugs for vanity or fun in my life and i dont know anyone that has...oh actually yes but they died.

If your comparing cigs and alchohol i dont think thats the same thing at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

From a massively, massively, massively (even more massive than the OP on steroids) bigger proportion of the population using them.

Also per capita.

Most steroid users will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention except some cosmetic issues with thier new found lactating breasts

Most people who drink two glasses of wine a week will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention. Not even an except in there.

True, unless they say crash thier car.

however we as a nation have a major issue with binge drinking. Iirc it was between 20-30% of the adult population that was regularly engaging in binge drinking

"

If 20-30% of the adult population were using steroids incorrectly (because that's what people who abuse alcohol are doing, abusing it, if you don't abuse it, it's fine) then a valid comparison could be made. They're not, so nobody knows what the hypothetical results would be.

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over a year ago


"Balls will be full with less cum. Roids cause the testes to shrink. "

They will be smaller because the glands inside them will no longer be required to produce testosterone so will atrophy, the volume of cum however will not change at all because that is a differnt part of the testes.

Sperm count will drop however, the WHO actually classes anabolic steroids as a form of birthcontrol.

But then ronnie coleman has 7 kids so its probbaly as reliable as the catholics and the rythym method

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

This is true. In the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster, it actually shows the statistics for death via steroid abuse. I'm sure it seriously came 1 rank below vitamin C or something equally as unlikely.

B

course of juice would add 20 years to the average obese fabbers lifespan.

How so? Up above it says you still have to have your diet and exercise right or they won't work.

Very true a course of juice would be a stupid thing to give an obease person. Thier heart and blood pressure wouldnt be great to start with so the added stress of the drugs and the workouts would be more counter productive along with the appetite increase "

stress of workouts is bad for obese patients, turn it in. most people find oral steroids an appetite supressent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

From a massively, massively, massively (even more massive than the OP on steroids) bigger proportion of the population using them.

Also per capita.

Most steroid users will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention except some cosmetic issues with thier new found lactating breasts

Most people who drink two glasses of wine a week will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention. Not even an except in there.

True, unless they say crash thier car.

however we as a nation have a major issue with binge drinking. Iirc it was between 20-30% of the adult population that was regularly engaging in binge drinking

If 20-30% of the adult population were using steroids incorrectly (because that's what people who abuse alcohol are doing, abusing it, if you don't abuse it, it's fine) then a valid comparison could be made. They're not, so nobody knows what the hypothetical results would be."

Abusing it implies there is a therputic dose to begin with?

Alcohol does nothing for the body ,unless the person has been poisoned with methanol then it is a treatmernt, at any dosage. Any health effects come from the impurities (thats why a glass of red wine is good foe you but vodka isnt, the wine would be healthier without the alcohol).

Also no, we can easily compare mixed popualtion sizes you just convert the figures to per capita ones.

Like road accidents etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

Because its a sweeping statement. Ive never taken drugs for vanity or fun in my life and i dont know anyone that has...oh actually yes but they died.

If your comparing cigs and alchohol i dont think thats the same thing at all."

Alcohol is a drug...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

From a massively, massively, massively (even more massive than the OP on steroids) bigger proportion of the population using them.

Also per capita.

Most steroid users will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention except some cosmetic issues with thier new found lactating breasts

Most people who drink two glasses of wine a week will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention. Not even an except in there.

True, unless they say crash thier car.

however we as a nation have a major issue with binge drinking. Iirc it was between 20-30% of the adult population that was regularly engaging in binge drinking

If 20-30% of the adult population were using steroids incorrectly (because that's what people who abuse alcohol are doing, abusing it, if you don't abuse it, it's fine) then a valid comparison could be made. They're not, so nobody knows what the hypothetical results would be.

Abusing it implies there is a therputic dose to begin with?

Alcohol does nothing for the body ,unless the person has been poisoned with methanol then it is a treatmernt, at any dosage. Any health effects come from the impurities (thats why a glass of red wine is good foe you but vodka isnt, the wine would be healthier without the alcohol).

Also no, we can easily compare mixed popualtion sizes you just convert the figures to per capita ones.

Like road accidents etc"

So what are the therapeutic benefits of anabolic steroids for cosmetic reasons?

And no, you can't just multiply up to per capita for a valid comparison or all the polling, research and statistical analysis organisafions would be out of a job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its fun how defensive you can make people by mentioning alcohol.

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over a year ago


"Its fun how defensive you can make people by mentioning alcohol.

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I'm not being defensive, I barely drink alcohol. I just think shit invalid pseudo-statistical comparisons deserve to be challenged. Not sure why I bother though tbh.

OP crack on, but if you're going to do it then commit. I'm not sure it's something you can just "dabble" in.

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"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

From a massively, massively, massively (even more massive than the OP on steroids) bigger proportion of the population using them.

Also per capita.

Most steroid users will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention except some cosmetic issues with thier new found lactating breasts

Most people who drink two glasses of wine a week will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention. Not even an except in there.

True, unless they say crash thier car.

however we as a nation have a major issue with binge drinking. Iirc it was between 20-30% of the adult population that was regularly engaging in binge drinking

If 20-30% of the adult population were using steroids incorrectly (because that's what people who abuse alcohol are doing, abusing it, if you don't abuse it, it's fine) then a valid comparison could be made. They're not, so nobody knows what the hypothetical results would be.

Abusing it implies there is a therputic dose to begin with?

Alcohol does nothing for the body ,unless the person has been poisoned with methanol then it is a treatmernt, at any dosage. Any health effects come from the impurities (thats why a glass of red wine is good foe you but vodka isnt, the wine would be healthier without the alcohol).

Also no, we can easily compare mixed popualtion sizes you just convert the figures to per capita ones.

Like road accidents etc

So what are the therapeutic benefits of anabolic steroids for cosmetic reasons?

And no, you can't just multiply up to per capita for a valid comparison or all the polling, research and statistical analysis organisafions would be out of a job. "

The same therputic gains as from when its perscribed really.

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Its fun how defensive you can make people by mentioning alcohol.

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Well done for posting actual facts and being informative.

Instead of the scaremongering that some have done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

Because its a sweeping statement. Ive never taken drugs for vanity or fun in my life and i dont know anyone that has...oh actually yes but they died.

If your comparing cigs and alchohol i dont think thats the same thing at all.

Alcohol is a drug..."

Yes I know that. But point being it's a alot more predictable what it will do to your body. A drug isn't.

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By *yintotryCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

We stand corrected. But Ronnie Coleman will be having a bypass soon like, lou, mike, and the mentzer boys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its fun how defensive you can make people by mentioning alcohol.

I'm not being defensive, I barely drink alcohol. I just think shit invalid pseudo-statistical comparisons deserve to be challenged. Not sure why I bother though tbh.

OP crack on, but if you're going to do it then commit. I'm not sure it's something you can just "dabble" in. "

This it's like you think we are unaware alchohol is a drug. You cant compare every drug to another. To me that's like comparing to paracetamol. Also the argument that a lot of people do something doesn't mean it's a good reason to do it.

Why would I be defensive. I drink responsibly?

I think it's a bad idea and I'm perfectly entitled to say it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We stand corrected. But Ronnie Coleman will be having a bypass soon like, lou, mike, and the mentzer boys. "
You do know they take extreme amounts of it? So yeah that's why most of them died. If you do it correctly you will be ok in most cases.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We stand corrected. But Ronnie Coleman will be having a bypass soon like, lou, mike, and the mentzer boys. "

Tb h i wouldnt be surprised if they guy has a stroke soon.

The amount of pressure his CV system must build up while training is quite a testement to the design of your arteries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We stand corrected. But Ronnie Coleman will be having a bypass soon like, lou, mike, and the mentzer boys. "
You do know they take extreme amounts of it? So yeah that's why most of them died. If you do it correctly you will be ok in most cases.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

Because its a sweeping statement. Ive never taken drugs for vanity or fun in my life and i dont know anyone that has...oh actually yes but they died.

If your comparing cigs and alchohol i dont think thats the same thing at all.

Alcohol is a drug...

Yes I know that. But point being it's a alot more predictable what it will do to your body. A drug isn't. "

...you realise drugs actions are just as predictable as alcohols. They arent magic.

The main issue is either knowing what youre actually taking, and the fact that the ld50 is much closer to the effective dose.

Except foe things like canabis of course where even mainlining pure thc into a central line by the liter wouldn't get you to the ld50 before you died due to the obvious issues of injecting liters of anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its fun how defensive you can make people by mentioning alcohol.

I'm not being defensive, I barely drink alcohol. I just think shit invalid pseudo-statistical comparisons deserve to be challenged. Not sure why I bother though tbh.

OP crack on, but if you're going to do it then commit. I'm not sure it's something you can just "dabble" in. "

Im more disapointed you came with a specific point about the eat less and move more comment then totally ignored the reply and went for the alcohol comment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its fun how defensive you can make people by mentioning alcohol.

Well done for posting actual facts and being informative.

Instead of the scaremongering that some have done.

"

Biochemistry is cool.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its fun how defensive you can make people by mentioning alcohol.

I'm not being defensive, I barely drink alcohol. I just think shit invalid pseudo-statistical comparisons deserve to be challenged. Not sure why I bother though tbh.

OP crack on, but if you're going to do it then commit. I'm not sure it's something you can just "dabble" in.

Im more disapointed you came with a specific point about the eat less and move more comment then totally ignored the reply and went for the alcohol comment."

I felt like your reply missed my point. Which was I've read equivalent threads about weight loss where you've completely rubbished anyone who's suggested anything other than eat less and move more as the best way to lose weight. But when it comes to muscle gain (because people who are trying to do that aren't lazy, subhuman stupid fatties, presumably) you're giving credence to the idea of steroids instead of just lifting more and eating better.

So yeah, that's why I ignored the reply because it wasn't a reply to the point I actually made.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

From a massively, massively, massively (even more massive than the OP on steroids) bigger proportion of the population using them.

Also per capita.

Most steroid users will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention except some cosmetic issues with thier new found lactating breasts

"

Well just look at the amount of ex WWF, WWE, WCW, professional wrestlers who have died early as a result of heart attacks or stroke. Fair bet most of them took steroids throughout their career and had enlarged heart through steroid abuse.

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By *andomfodCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Is it worth any risk to take a dangerous drugs for the sake of your own vanity?

Most of the nation consumes vast amounts of way more dangerous drugs every friday night for the sake of "fun".

Sorry but thats crap. A lot of people may but again id say the same. Id it worth it?

How is it crap?

Its true. Just look at the nhs and police bills for ciggeret and alcohol issues both have massivlt bigger death tolls and damage than steroids.

From a massively, massively, massively (even more massive than the OP on steroids) bigger proportion of the population using them.

Also per capita.

Most steroid users will not die or have a severe issue from it requiring medical intervention except some cosmetic issues with thier new found lactating breasts

Well just look at the amount of ex WWF, WWE, WCW, professional wrestlers who have died early as a result of heart attacks or stroke. Fair bet most of them took steroids throughout their career and had enlarged heart through steroid abuse. "

That was insane amount of abuse, coupled with the 80s wrestler lifestyle of and painkillers. A lethal combination.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Your body can stop production of its hormones, if you're adding via supplements.

The desire may be strong and results may seem awesome to you op, but you're not seeing the life long effects and costs. If you were my son or brother I'd fight hard to stop you, even though I can understand why you want it.

As part of your research I'd encourage you to contact a local steroid recovery advice service.

Speak to ShagTonight on here too - he's not a user but is highly dedicated to training and might help you with diet and training tips. It's 80% diet, so master that alongside a good training plan, and you could potentially keep your good health for life.

I know most here are discouraging you, so it's not what you want to hear but likely others have also seen major problems first hand, as I have. I totally support and respect all of our right to do with our bodies as we choose, including what we put into them. Good luck whatever route you take!

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By *andomfodCouple
over a year ago

walsall

^^ this is the best post on the thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Steroids are a class C drug. The OP is seeking advice on how to best use them and he will be buying them from an illegal source as they clearly won;t be prescribed for medical use. Surely this thread breaks forum rules? It's an illegal drug

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm planning on have a dabble in anobolic streoids in the new year ,any body recommend a good stack?

Jesus you can't ask for advice on here because it's an illegal substance. Just a few safety tips, make sure you use a reliable source, find out where your nearest needle exchange is they'll give you a sharps bin. Read as much as you can about it before injecting anything into your body. What are your goals? You can't just jab and expect to get massive if that's what you're looking for. You need to have an established routine already and diet plan.

Yeh I'm doin some research ,There's a few lads who are on it now in the gym I go to ,they have only been training for about 3 months ,they don't even train properly an there diets are shite but they have body's like Greek gods "

and they probably feel like shite -

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Steroids are a class C drug. The OP is seeking advice on how to best use them and he will be buying them from an illegal source as they clearly won;t be prescribed for medical use. Surely this thread breaks forum rules? It's an illegal drug"

Haha

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Steroids are a class C drug. The OP is seeking advice on how to best use them and he will be buying them from an illegal source as they clearly won;t be prescribed for medical use. Surely this thread breaks forum rules? It's an illegal drug"

It's been up for 12 hours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Steroids are a class C drug. The OP is seeking advice on how to best use them and he will be buying them from an illegal source as they clearly won;t be prescribed for medical use. Surely this thread breaks forum rules? It's an illegal drug"

I think you'll find that the majority of people are discouraging him and the rest are saying that if he chooses to go down that route then he needs to research everything so he doesn't do any harm to himself. The things mentioned are legal substances but it is illegal to supply them. Nobody is talking about how to get them so why try and get people into trouble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Steroids are a class C drug. The OP is seeking advice on how to best use them and he will be buying them from an illegal source as they clearly won;t be prescribed for medical use. Surely this thread breaks forum rules? It's an illegal drug

It's been up for 12 hours "

Sounds like you took a little blue pill hun, not steroids, best go to A and E!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Steroids are a class C drug. The OP is seeking advice on how to best use them and he will be buying them from an illegal source as they clearly won;t be prescribed for medical use. Surely this thread breaks forum rules? It's an illegal drug

It's been up for 12 hours

Sounds like you took a little blue pill hun, not steroids, best go to A and E! "

I don't need blue pills to keep it up for 12 hours love ,am all natural

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Steroids are a class C drug. The OP is seeking advice on how to best use them and he will be buying them from an illegal source as they clearly won;t be prescribed for medical use. Surely this thread breaks forum rules? It's an illegal drug

I think you'll find that the majority of people are discouraging him and the rest are saying that if he chooses to go down that route then he needs to research everything so he doesn't do any harm to himself. The things mentioned are legal substances but it is illegal to supply them. Nobody is talking about how to get them so why try and get people into trouble. "

It just surprises me that a discussion about recreational drug use will get shut down but steroid use is okay to be discussed.

It;s not a criticism of the mods more an observation on society as a whole and the fact that people seem to think that it's acceptable primarily because possession isn't illegal. But it's only not illegal due to the issue of criminilising a prescription drug (There are similar issues with ketamine). People think because you can't be nicked for possession and because it's not a recreational drug it's okay to discuss it's use openly. And I think that complacency and acceptability is a big part of where so much misinformation about steroisd use (on both sides of the argument) comes from

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

It isn't an illegal drug if prescribed the right way and you are not supplying to others. However I don't think this is the right place to discuss it.

To the OP...you seem to have had some good advice, but maybe seek a more appropriate forum to discuss it on now

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