FabSwingers.com forum: Big Issue or Beggars

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Do you buy the Big Issue or give to Beggars ?

I don't normally but in the bad Weather I gave one a Big Mac Meal and a Coffee and I watched him give the Burger to his Dog and he drank the Coffee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i used to untill one day..

i was shopping saw a very down looking guy so gave him some change.

later in the day i saw the same guy and im certain it was him, driving a nearly new bmw.

now i give to homeless charities instead

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I give a little each Month to a Charity but it was Freezing cold so thought it's only a couple of Quid and he can't spend the Food

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I always buy a sandwich for the guy who sells the Big Issue near to me, if it's cold like it is today I will give him a cup of the Hot Chocolate we do in my shop.

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By *ertnbeckyCouple
over a year ago

oldham

not normally but there is one guy in town if i see him always get him and his dog a pasty each from gregs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I regularly give money to beggar's, 4 of them to be exact Kids eh lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have bought food for one I used to see when I worked in Leeds.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Ill but the big issue sometimes but I won't give money to beggars

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've brought the big issue and given money to beggers. What's the price of a coffee? Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a good family,job, home. Yes there will be those that beg that don't need it but unless you watch them all day then your not going to know. Just be grateful it's not you begging and selling the big issue. That's how I see it and I'm thankful for what I've got.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

their a woman who sells the big issue near us and she begs as well.you never think she had money. on weekends she goes to another town sells roses in the pubs and wears the latest designers clothes. i cant affored designers clothes. so now i dont give them anything

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

How do you know they are designer clothes?.....do you rifle through her clothing looking for labels?

Also do you know where she gets her clothes?.....plenty of top label clothes to be found in charity shops.

It's all too easy to make assumptions about people based on their clothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with Jane here, I've brought designer clothes in charity shops. And unless you rifle through her personal belonging and find reciepts etc your not going to know. Yes there are bad apples out there but there are genuine beggers too who don't have what we have. Have some heart please. What £1 to you is alot to them.

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

I never give money to beggers.

There was one I used to know back when I lived in Scunthorpe. I knew him, we went to school together.

I used to buy him Mcdonalds, or something hot whenever I saw him, because I knew if I gave him money, he'd spend it on drugs.

When I moved down here, I used to go through the town center early in a morning, and see a couple of guys asleep in doorways, so I'd always buy them coffee in the mornings. Only from Mcdonalds, and for a couple of quid, at least they got warm.

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By *unterslickCouple
over a year ago

tullamore

theres one woman that used to beg in tullamore,she got caught out,,,she was begging one day went to stand up and something rolled away from under her,,,,it was a ball of 50 euro notes,massive ball of them,,bigger than iv ever seen in my life,she had the cheek to beg with that on her,so we dont give anything now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i know i sound horrible. their daughter goes to school with some people i know and their daughter has a wii, laptop, 32inch tv in her room, sorry sounds to me like they dont need to begg , espically she got the 32inch for christmas plus the laptop

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like to read this ..... and just give them right money. Never see them as peggers. If you have never read one maybe give it a go .... thay cover all sorts from erotic art too food things all sorts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have read it i just dont like that some of them not all of them beg, sell the mag by all means but dont beg as well

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Have to chuckle at all the anecdotal evidence offered up that attempts to prove that Big Issue sellers are in fact wealthy people.....

So now we not only know they wear 'designer' clothes but we know the contents of their daughters bedroom...

Can anyone beat this?.....

That's the way these threads normally go.

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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago

The Forest

I was a paramedic in London for 15 years before moving to the countryside and I knew a few "professional" beggars. It's a misconception that they beg for booze/drug money. They buy that with their benefit money because it was given to them on a regular day and the dealers all came along on those days fully stocked with goodies.

At Christmas, I used to give my "regulars" a packet of 10 fags and a couple of mars bars, but never cash.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i know i sound horrible. their daughter goes to school with some people i know and their daughter has a wii, laptop, 32inch tv in her room, sorry sounds to me like they dont need to begg , espically she got the 32inch for christmas plus the laptop"

Thats chinese whispers dear,never believe what you hear,and if thats the case how do you know it was not the grandparents that broughts it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mom used to work for Greggs many moons ago and at the end of the day any left over food got chucked out out the back. but it was all broken up and washing up liquid poured all over it to stop the beggars having it. My mom left after a week,she like me could not understand the smallminded people at time. The food was thrown away anyway but why destroy it,its was no loss to them.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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I always thought big issue sellers are regulated and have to be homeless to sell it.

I do give to big issue sellers but I don't take the magazine so they can sell it again. I have given to beggars before now too.

As Burlesque said, not everyone is fortunate enough to have a good family job and home and why I don't mind giving.

I know that some of us could be getting taken for a mug by some, but although I don't give to all beggars etc, I feel better giving than wondering if they managed to get a warm drink that day.

I think sometimes people can be too wary though, there was a young lad in the main shopping centre here stopping people to ask do they have some change so he could make a phone call ( he was right next to the phone box) loads of people said no, he looked distraught, so I gave him some money to use the phone. After he made the call he came back to me and said he had to phone his mum as he had been robbed of his money and Mobile and he had done what his mum had always told him to do if he ever needed help and ask people his parents age or above, but no one had helped for a full 35 minutes. I was still there ( waiting for Mr R to extract himself from the shop he had gone into to buy his latest gadget) when his mum turned up to pick him up.

All I could think of was all those people who walked past him or said no to him could have been parents themselves and wouldn't even think to help someone elses son out, I bet they would have been shouting from the rooftops about the people who wouldn't help if it was their kid doing the asking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I give via my salary to a few charities close to my heart. I don't give to beggars on the street, I don't buy the Big Issue, because I have no interest in it. I have three children and Santander who have first dibs on my money!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I give my time.. Won't give money to beggars- if I'm eating I offer my food after all if it's for food they will be grateful.. In the bad weather I took 4 of their dogs in because it was too cold to stay out- and the places that accept dogs were full so off I go collect woofs and return them next morning... The charities have my number and if it's too cold they ring me. I saw 4 beggars get out of a car one morning giving their gold to the driver- so will never hand over cash to anyone- too many professiOnal beggars out there!!.

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By *unterslickCouple
over a year ago

tullamore

in response to a question up above,,the beggar woman with the ball of fifties,i know she doesnt need the money because she now lives in a 5 bed house around the corner from me,,and her hubby drives a 09 car,we both work,and we drive a 97 car,,,i know thats just one example,but when i split from my ex,years back i lived on the streets for months,i was working,but i got paid daily so couldnt afford to pay rent the whole time,,,so i have seen first hand the scams that can and are pulled

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do you know the beggar woman did not get that house through housing benefit? or the car through disability living allowance? You don't know the facts on that you are merely speculating. My dad as a brand new car though disability as he as MS. You don't the beggars history

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"in response to a question up above,,the beggar woman with the ball of fifties,i know she doesnt need the money because she now lives in a 5 bed house around the corner from me,,and her hubby drives a 09 car,we both work,and we drive a 97 car,,,i know thats just one example,but when i split from my ex,years back i lived on the streets for months,i was working,but i got paid daily so couldnt afford to pay rent the whole time,,,so i have seen first hand the scams that can and are pulled"

Is it the fact she as a newer car that pisses you off?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How do you know the beggar woman did not get that house through housing benefit? or the car through disability living allowance? You don't know the facts on that you are merely speculating. My dad as a brand new car though disability as he as MS. You don't the beggars history"

if she has a car and house then why does she need to beg???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do we know she's not begging anymore?

She probably isn't and is on benefits now so she doesn't have to beg.

People beg cause they have nothing just remember that.

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By *unterslickCouple
over a year ago

tullamore

beggars do it for food and somewhere to sleep,not topay insurance and tax on a car,im in ireland,they dont give cars on the benefits,so couldnt be that,and yes i am jealous,for the simple fact that we do everything by the book,and get nothing in return,and they dont yet get everything,,

who wouldnt be jealous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Giving .....doesn`t always mean filthy lucre!!

Sometimes a quick chat and sharing a smile can mean so much to somebodies isolation and loneliness....

Just a thought ....

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By *unterslickCouple
over a year ago

tullamore

so vey tue

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

"Do you buy the Big Issue or give to Beggars ?

I don't normally but in the bad Weather I gave one a Big Mac Meal and a Coffee and I watched him give the Burger to his Dog and he drank the Coffee

I have given money or food on occasions but you have to be careful.

I once saw a really tatty beggar touting off tourists. He had filthy ripped clothes and his toes were sticking out of his shoes....his pinkies were as clean as a whistle and his fingernails were clean and short.

The charities or Big Issue are the better option I would say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we just pay for the paper ... that helps and really thats all thay are after.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ebenezer: Are there no prisons? And the union workhouses - are they still in operation?

First Collector: They are. I wish I could say they were not.

Ebenezer: Oh, from what you said at first I was afraid that something had happened to stop them in their useful course. I'm very glad to hear it.

First Collector: Now what can I put you down for?

Ebenezer: Nothing!

Second Collector: You wish to be anonymous?

Ebenezer: [firmly, but calmly] I wish to be left alone. Since you ask me what I wish sir, that is my answer. I help to support the establishments I have named; those who are badly off must go there.

First Collector: Many can't go there.

Second Collector: And some would rather die.

Ebenezer: Then let them do so and decrease the surplus population.

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That pretty much sums it up for me too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i hate tin rattlers.

when i was shopping at christmas in bristol they were everywhere ans standing in the way of people trying to force them to hand over money.

i understand that people are giving up time to collect for some very worth while causes.but some of it borders of harassment and the only charities i give to are ones i have heard of and know something about like the salvation army,help for heroes and rspca.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ones i dont like asking for money is calling me up on phone asking to make a standing order . Over the year we give alot to diffrent things ,,, and i tell them that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

in response to some of the points raised within this thread some people beg because they have to.........and some beg because its profitable!!

desperate times call for desperate measure.............and some of the population realise this and take their opportunity to make a quick killing.

u dont actually need to be homeless to sell the big issue..........my "friend" makesw at least 40 quid a day selling it on top of his benefits and sadly it is to fund his drug habit. granted that there are many vendors out there who dont and sometimes people just view them all as drug users....which is rather sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a poor student so I don't because I can't afford it. Though I would much rather give food than cash for the reasons that have been outlined, everyone has a story about a begger who isn't as homeless as they make out but of course there are those in need. So goods not cash.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I once offered a guy who told me he was starving a flapjack which I'd just bought - rather than give him money, he declined because he didn't like them...couldn't of been that hungry!

I've donated and raised money for various other charities, but I'd never give a beggar money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"in response to some of the points raised within this thread some people beg because they have to.........and some beg because its profitable!!

desperate times call for desperate measure.............and some of the population realise this and take their opportunity to make a quick killing.

I think the instant you inform people of what you have done...it ceases to be a charitable act.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ones i dont like asking for money is calling me up on phone asking to make a standing order . Over the year we give alot to diffrent things ,,, and i tell them that."

join the telephone preference service and the cold calls will stop.

it is free and you can sign up online.

google: telephone preference service.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ones i dont like asking for money is calling me up on phone asking to make a standing order . Over the year we give alot to diffrent things ,,, and i tell them that.

join the telephone preference service and the cold calls will stop.

it is free and you can sign up online.

google: telephone preference service."
will look into that xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you buy the Big Issue or give to Beggars ?

I don't normally but in the bad Weather I gave one a Big Mac Meal and a Coffee and I watched him give the Burger to his Dog and he drank the Coffee

sometimes if i think they are genuine but you hear in some city's the beggars can make well over £100 a day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where do you hear that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

used to know a Thalidomide guy without arm he used to travel the country begging stayed in the best hotels drove a corvet stingray and had a speed boat

only got in his car once tho he kept taking his feet off the wheel to play with the stereo and things. scarey

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I give to the big issue but dont take the magazine let them sell it to the next person. When i lived in the city i would give the beggers a couple of ciggies and a bar of chocolate. I also have a couple of charities that i give too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We wonder how many previous posters, who class Issue sellers as beggars, have little dears who, around late October, put a Teddy in a Frankenstein mask, dress it in a football shirt and then intimidate and pester aged shoppers into parting with their money.

Now that's begging!

XXXX

PS: Don't even get me started on Halloween........demanding money with menaces!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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