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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions" what are you talking about?.. | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions what are you talking about?.." . You've obviously never been lead up a blind alley | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions" Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, " . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. | |||
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"It's the exact rationale that jihadists use.... I just belive!." Ah, of course. I believe that jihadists are bastards. | |||
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"It's the exact rationale that jihadists use.... I just belive!. Ah, of course. I believe that jihadists are bastards." . You could add evidence! If not, your just a jihadist yourself! | |||
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"It's the exact rationale that jihadists use.... I just belive!." And Christians | |||
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"It's the exact rationale that jihadists use.... I just belive!. And Christians" . I haven't seen a Christian jihadist for a thousand years! But whatever yer they've been there! | |||
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"It's the exact rationale that jihadists use.... I just belive!. Ah, of course. I believe that jihadists are bastards.. You could add evidence! If not, your just a jihadist yourself!" Funnily enough, I am not. I have a moral system that tells me that brutal murder is a bad thing. They have one that tells them that it as a good thing. | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. " Conclusion and best theory are not the same... One allows for an evolution of thinking if more evidence becomes available... | |||
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"It's the exact rationale that jihadists use.... I just belive!. And Christians. I haven't seen a Christian jihadist for a thousand years! But whatever yer they've been there!" What is a jihadist ? in your mind ? | |||
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"It's the exact rationale that jihadists use.... I just belive!. Ah, of course. I believe that jihadists are bastards.. You could add evidence! If not, your just a jihadist yourself! Funnily enough, I am not. I have a moral system that tells me that brutal murder is a bad thing. They have one that tells them that it as a good thing. " . A moral system? Is that your inbuilt rationale that murdering another human is bad!. It's almost intrinsic to most humans! | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions what are you talking about?... You've obviously never been lead up a blind alley " Is that the same as being taken up a blind alley? | |||
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"It's the exact rationale that jihadists use.... I just belive!. Ah, of course. I believe that jihadists are bastards.. You could add evidence! If not, your just a jihadist yourself! Funnily enough, I am not. I have a moral system that tells me that brutal murder is a bad thing. They have one that tells them that it as a good thing. . A moral system? Is that your inbuilt rationale that murdering another human is bad!. It's almost intrinsic to most humans!" almost ? A miss is as good as a mile. I'm almost a millionaire | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. Conclusion and best theory are not the same... One allows for an evolution of thinking if more evidence becomes available... " . So your conclusion is based upon the evidence available not the evidence that might become available? | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. Conclusion and best theory are not the same... One allows for an evolution of thinking if more evidence becomes available... . So your conclusion is based upon the evidence available not the evidence that might become available?" No I just keep my mind open to endless possibilities and reserve the right to be change my views....... | |||
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"It's the exact rationale that jihadists use.... I just belive!. Ah, of course. I believe that jihadists are bastards.. You could add evidence! If not, your just a jihadist yourself! Funnily enough, I am not. I have a moral system that tells me that brutal murder is a bad thing. They have one that tells them that it as a good thing. . A moral system? Is that your inbuilt rationale that murdering another human is bad!. It's almost intrinsic to most humans! almost ? A miss is as good as a mile. I'm almost a millionaire " . Your confusing evidence with actuality!. So the evidence concludes that most humans are peaceful unless they have irrational beliefs!. That's most ie there's exceptions to a rule! | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. Conclusion and best theory are not the same... One allows for an evolution of thinking if more evidence becomes available... . So your conclusion is based upon the evidence available not the evidence that might become available? No I just keep my mind open to endless possibilities and reserve the right to be change my views....... " . Ahh so guys that dress in frocks are abnormal and should be punished!.... This belief I hold dear.. And nothing sound challenge a well held belief? | |||
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"confusing evidence and actuality ? Site the evidence please. " . The evidence suggest... You wouldn't be here talking rubbish to me if humans were irrational,I mean we'd have all murdered each other many hundreds of years ago! Now I'm interested in your beliefs that were not intrinsically rationale beings! | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. Conclusion and best theory are not the same... One allows for an evolution of thinking if more evidence becomes available... . So your conclusion is based upon the evidence available not the evidence that might become available? No I just keep my mind open to endless possibilities and reserve the right to be change my views....... . Ahh so guys that dress in frocks are abnormal and should be punished!.... This belief I hold dear.. And nothing sound challenge a well held belief?" Hey if your belief brings you comfort...... you're in a good place | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. Conclusion and best theory are not the same... One allows for an evolution of thinking if more evidence becomes available... . So your conclusion is based upon the evidence available not the evidence that might become available? No I just keep my mind open to endless possibilities and reserve the right to be change my views....... . Ahh so guys that dress in frocks are abnormal and should be punished!.... This belief I hold dear.. And nothing sound challenge a well held belief? Hey if your belief brings you comfort...... you're in a good place " . No I don't believe in beliefs bringing you comfort!. There's no evidence to suggest it would!. There's evidence to suggest holding such views would make me irrational!... Of course I could become mired in dogma and then base my assumptions and conclusions from that!. | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. Conclusion and best theory are not the same... One allows for an evolution of thinking if more evidence becomes available... . So your conclusion is based upon the evidence available not the evidence that might become available? No I just keep my mind open to endless possibilities and reserve the right to be change my views....... . Ahh so guys that dress in frocks are abnormal and should be punished!.... This belief I hold dear.. And nothing sound challenge a well held belief? Hey if your belief brings you comfort...... you're in a good place . No I don't believe in beliefs bringing you comfort!. There's no evidence to suggest it would!. There's evidence to suggest holding such views would make me irrational!... Of course I could become mired in dogma and then base my assumptions and conclusions from that!. " You seem to be struggling to make a salient point ...... | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. Conclusion and best theory are not the same... One allows for an evolution of thinking if more evidence becomes available... . So your conclusion is based upon the evidence available not the evidence that might become available? No I just keep my mind open to endless possibilities and reserve the right to be change my views....... . Ahh so guys that dress in frocks are abnormal and should be punished!.... This belief I hold dear.. And nothing sound challenge a well held belief? Hey if your belief brings you comfort...... you're in a good place . No I don't believe in beliefs bringing you comfort!. There's no evidence to suggest it would!. There's evidence to suggest holding such views would make me irrational!... Of course I could become mired in dogma and then base my assumptions and conclusions from that!. You seem to be struggling to make a salient point ...... " . Ok so when does a belief become OK! | |||
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"I believe for every drop of rain that falls a tulip grows " . You know there's alot more rain drops than tulips, don't you! | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. Conclusion and best theory are not the same... One allows for an evolution of thinking if more evidence becomes available... . So your conclusion is based upon the evidence available not the evidence that might become available? No I just keep my mind open to endless possibilities and reserve the right to be change my views....... . Ahh so guys that dress in frocks are abnormal and should be punished!.... This belief I hold dear.. And nothing sound challenge a well held belief? Hey if your belief brings you comfort...... you're in a good place . No I don't believe in beliefs bringing you comfort!. There's no evidence to suggest it would!. There's evidence to suggest holding such views would make me irrational!... Of course I could become mired in dogma and then base my assumptions and conclusions from that!. You seem to be struggling to make a salient point ...... . Ok so when does a belief become OK!" I don't know,,,,,, but I respect those who take comfort from their beliefs as long as that doesn't involve diminishing the value of those who hold alternate beliefs ...... | |||
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"It's the exact rationale that jihadists use.... I just belive!. Ah, of course. I believe that jihadists are bastards.. You could add evidence! If not, your just a jihadist yourself! Funnily enough, I am not. I have a moral system that tells me that brutal murder is a bad thing. They have one that tells them that it as a good thing. . A moral system? Is that your inbuilt rationale that murdering another human is bad!. It's almost intrinsic to most humans!" It is my inbuilt rationale and I do believe that it is shared by most humans. Why? Do you believe differently? | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. Conclusion and best theory are not the same... One allows for an evolution of thinking if more evidence becomes available... . So your conclusion is based upon the evidence available not the evidence that might become available? No I just keep my mind open to endless possibilities and reserve the right to be change my views....... . Ahh so guys that dress in frocks are abnormal and should be punished!.... This belief I hold dear.. And nothing sound challenge a well held belief? Hey if your belief brings you comfort...... you're in a good place . No I don't believe in beliefs bringing you comfort!. There's no evidence to suggest it would!. There's evidence to suggest holding such views would make me irrational!... Of course I could become mired in dogma and then base my assumptions and conclusions from that!. You seem to be struggling to make a salient point ...... . Ok so when does a belief become OK! I don't know,,,,,, but I respect those who take comfort from their beliefs as long as that doesn't involve diminishing the value of those who hold alternate beliefs ...... " . Ahh so as long as my beliefs don't interfere in your frock wearing... It's OK!. I'm not trying to be offensive but the point of what I'm trying to say on the tread is... Either you have something to back up your beliefs or you don't!. Now the belief in wearing a frock isn't technically harming anyone where as the belief in you should be stoned is yeah slightly hurting the frock wearer! Now why is your belief better than the other!. Now my point would be that there's no evidence to suggest that either you wearing a frock or not wearing a frock would have any outcome either way!... Therefore I'm neither for or against it. Now if holding a strong belief makes me in some in some way, half right, why shout me down if I say... Transvestites are sub human!. I mean you said you hold an Open mind to forthcoming evidence.. What if I belive the forthcoming evidence is that trannys and gay people are just... Wrong! | |||
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"Hiya, The statement is a little sweeping, no? You might say conservatism, socialism or environmentalism are all beliefs... As much as Christianity, Islam or Judaism...?" . No you're confusing two completely different philosophical outcomes!. Conservatives and socialists at least hold some beliefs by lifes outcomes and actions. So I'm socialistic by my life's outcome... That's intrinsic to me, I've accumulated evidence in my life to suggest that's the best way forward in politics. | |||
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"All beliefs? I don't know,,,,,, but I respect those who take comfort from their beliefs as long as that doesn't involve diminishing the value of those who hold alternate beliefs ...... . Ahh so as long as my beliefs don't interfere in your frock wearing... It's OK!. I'm not trying to be offensive but the point of what I'm trying to say on the tread is... Either you have something to back up your beliefs or you don't!. Now the belief in wearing a frock isn't technically harming anyone where as the belief in you should be stoned is yeah slightly hurting the frock wearer! Now why is your belief better than the other!. Now my point would be that there's no evidence to suggest that either you wearing a frock or not wearing a frock would have any outcome either way!... Therefore I'm neither for or against it. Now if holding a strong belief makes me in some in some way, half right, why shout me down if I say... Transvestites are sub human!. I mean you said you hold an Open mind to forthcoming evidence.. What if I belive the forthcoming evidence is that trannys and gay people are just... Wrong!" You see..... I don't mind if you disapprove of transvestites or gays..... you can't impose bigoted thinking upon someone who doesn't react to the provocation of ineffectual... taunting..... Your still struggling to make a salient point to support your original post... | |||
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"Hiya, The statement is a little sweeping, no? You might say conservatism, socialism or environmentalism are all beliefs... As much as Christianity, Islam or Judaism...?. No you're confusing two completely different philosophical outcomes!. Conservatives and socialists at least hold some beliefs by lifes outcomes and actions. So I'm socialistic by my life's outcome... That's intrinsic to me, I've accumulated evidence in my life to suggest that's the best way forward in politics. " Rambling | |||
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"All beliefs? I don't know,,,,,, but I respect those who take comfort from their beliefs as long as that doesn't involve diminishing the value of those who hold alternate beliefs ...... . Ahh so as long as my beliefs don't interfere in your frock wearing... It's OK!. I'm not trying to be offensive but the point of what I'm trying to say on the tread is... Either you have something to back up your beliefs or you don't!. Now the belief in wearing a frock isn't technically harming anyone where as the belief in you should be stoned is yeah slightly hurting the frock wearer! Now why is your belief better than the other!. Now my point would be that there's no evidence to suggest that either you wearing a frock or not wearing a frock would have any outcome either way!... Therefore I'm neither for or against it. Now if holding a strong belief makes me in some in some way, half right, why shout me down if I say... Transvestites are sub human!. I mean you said you hold an Open mind to forthcoming evidence.. What if I belive the forthcoming evidence is that trannys and gay people are just... Wrong! You see..... I don't mind if you disapprove of transvestites or gays..... you can't impose bigoted thinking upon someone who doesn't react to the provocation of ineffectual... taunting..... Your still struggling to make a salient point to support your original post... " .. Ahh but I think you look kinda sweet in a dress! | |||
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"Hiya, The statement is a little sweeping, no? You might say conservatism, socialism or environmentalism are all beliefs... As much as Christianity, Islam or Judaism...?. No you're confusing two completely different philosophical outcomes!. Conservatives and socialists at least hold some beliefs by lifes outcomes and actions. So I'm socialistic by my life's outcome... That's intrinsic to me, I've accumulated evidence in my life to suggest that's the best way forward in politics. Rambling" . Which bit have I confused you on? | |||
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"All beliefs? I don't know,,,,,, but I respect those who take comfort from their beliefs as long as that doesn't involve diminishing the value of those who hold alternate beliefs ...... . Ahh so as long as my beliefs don't interfere in your frock wearing... It's OK!. I'm not trying to be offensive but the point of what I'm trying to say on the tread is... Either you have something to back up your beliefs or you don't!. Now the belief in wearing a frock isn't technically harming anyone where as the belief in you should be stoned is yeah slightly hurting the frock wearer! Now why is your belief better than the other!. Now my point would be that there's no evidence to suggest that either you wearing a frock or not wearing a frock would have any outcome either way!... Therefore I'm neither for or against it. Now if holding a strong belief makes me in some in some way, half right, why shout me down if I say... Transvestites are sub human!. I mean you said you hold an Open mind to forthcoming evidence.. What if I belive the forthcoming evidence is that trannys and gay people are just... Wrong! You see..... I don't mind if you disapprove of transvestites or gays..... you can't impose bigoted thinking upon someone who doesn't react to the provocation of ineffectual... taunting..... Your still struggling to make a salient point to support your original post... .. Ahh but I think you look kinda sweet in a dress! " First bit of sense you've made all night,,, | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. " Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. | |||
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"All beliefs? I don't know,,,,,, but I respect those who take comfort from their beliefs as long as that doesn't involve diminishing the value of those who hold alternate beliefs ...... . Ahh so as long as my beliefs don't interfere in your frock wearing... It's OK!. I'm not trying to be offensive but the point of what I'm trying to say on the tread is... Either you have something to back up your beliefs or you don't!. Now the belief in wearing a frock isn't technically harming anyone where as the belief in you should be stoned is yeah slightly hurting the frock wearer! Now why is your belief better than the other!. Now my point would be that there's no evidence to suggest that either you wearing a frock or not wearing a frock would have any outcome either way!... Therefore I'm neither for or against it. Now if holding a strong belief makes me in some in some way, half right, why shout me down if I say... Transvestites are sub human!. I mean you said you hold an Open mind to forthcoming evidence.. What if I belive the forthcoming evidence is that trannys and gay people are just... Wrong! You see..... I don't mind if you disapprove of transvestites or gays..... you can't impose bigoted thinking upon someone who doesn't react to the provocation of ineffectual... taunting..... Your still struggling to make a salient point to support your original post... .. Ahh but I think you look kinda sweet in a dress! First bit of sense you've made all night,,, " . I've been drinking all afternoon... The evidence suggests I wouldn't get a reply and if I did I wouldn't make any sense | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it." I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. " You should probably read up on the problem of induction. Everything you do is based on belief because there is no certainty in any scentific principal its falsifiability is an inherent characteristic of any inductive reasoning. | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life." Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. | |||
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"All beliefs? I don't know,,,,,, but I respect those who take comfort from their beliefs as long as that doesn't involve diminishing the value of those who hold alternate beliefs ...... . Ahh so as long as my beliefs don't interfere in your frock wearing... It's OK!. I'm not trying to be offensive but the point of what I'm trying to say on the tread is... Either you have something to back up your beliefs or you don't!. Now the belief in wearing a frock isn't technically harming anyone where as the belief in you should be stoned is yeah slightly hurting the frock wearer! Now why is your belief better than the other!. Now my point would be that there's no evidence to suggest that either you wearing a frock or not wearing a frock would have any outcome either way!... Therefore I'm neither for or against it. Now if holding a strong belief makes me in some in some way, half right, why shout me down if I say... Transvestites are sub human!. I mean you said you hold an Open mind to forthcoming evidence.. What if I belive the forthcoming evidence is that trannys and gay people are just... Wrong! You see..... I don't mind if you disapprove of transvestites or gays..... you can't impose bigoted thinking upon someone who doesn't react to the provocation of ineffectual... taunting..... Your still struggling to make a salient point to support your original post... .. Ahh but I think you look kinda sweet in a dress! First bit of sense you've made all night,,, . I've been drinking all afternoon... The evidence suggests I wouldn't get a reply and if I did I wouldn't make any sense " Nevertheless I salute your ability to type under the influence of alcohol.. | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. You should probably read up on the problem of induction. Everything you do is based on belief because there is no certainty in any scentific principal its falsifiability is an inherent characteristic of any inductive reasoning. " . You ride a motorbike! Do you just belive it will stay on two wheels? Surely by your logic you can't conclude it will! | |||
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"All beliefs? I don't know,,,,,, but I respect those who take comfort from their beliefs as long as that doesn't involve diminishing the value of those who hold alternate beliefs ...... . Ahh so as long as my beliefs don't interfere in your frock wearing... It's OK!. I'm not trying to be offensive but the point of what I'm trying to say on the tread is... Either you have something to back up your beliefs or you don't!. Now the belief in wearing a frock isn't technically harming anyone where as the belief in you should be stoned is yeah slightly hurting the frock wearer! Now why is your belief better than the other!. Now my point would be that there's no evidence to suggest that either you wearing a frock or not wearing a frock would have any outcome either way!... Therefore I'm neither for or against it. Now if holding a strong belief makes me in some in some way, half right, why shout me down if I say... Transvestites are sub human!. I mean you said you hold an Open mind to forthcoming evidence.. What if I belive the forthcoming evidence is that trannys and gay people are just... Wrong! You see..... I don't mind if you disapprove of transvestites or gays..... you can't impose bigoted thinking upon someone who doesn't react to the provocation of ineffectual... taunting..... Your still struggling to make a salient point to support your original post... .. Ahh but I think you look kinda sweet in a dress! First bit of sense you've made all night,,, . I've been drinking all afternoon... The evidence suggests I wouldn't get a reply and if I did I wouldn't make any sense Nevertheless I salute your ability to type under the influence of alcohol.. " . Auto chucker has a lot to answer for! | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. " . That's just being stupid... It's got a consequence just not a very big one! | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. . That's just being stupid... It's got a consequence just not a very big one!" Whats the consequence? | |||
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"I'm actually saying this as point to the current weather and what the science has been saying to expect for about 25 years!. So I've based my beliefs on what to expect by science and data! Does this make my beliefs more valid than somebody who just says... Yeah.. It's all bollocks! If my beliefs are no more valid through evidence... Does that mean racists and homophobes have just a valid belief system based on fuck all evidence!" Racism and homophones or opinions not beliefs? Life experiences have taught me the weather person is not always right and we are all half left | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. You should probably read up on the problem of induction. Everything you do is based on belief because there is no certainty in any scentific principal its falsifiability is an inherent characteristic of any inductive reasoning. . You ride a motorbike! Do you just belive it will stay on two wheels? Surely by your logic you can't conclude it will!" What!? Right, seriously given yourw wondering down this half arsed path try reading karl popper, or some other logic based philosophy Oh and by your own example no i dont conclude it will stay on two wheels as the last time i was on one it ended up bouncing down the motorway decided not on two wheels. | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. . That's just being stupid... It's got a consequence just not a very big one! Whats the consequence?" . Your allowing your insanity in irrationality to overcome your logical rationale!. You perception is that there's no detremental outcome to your beliefs are... Nonsensical at best | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. . That's just being stupid... It's got a consequence just not a very big one! Whats the consequence?. Your allowing your insanity in irrationality to overcome your logical rationale!. You perception is that there's no detremental outcome to your beliefs are... Nonsensical at best" Whats the detriment? | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. You should probably read up on the problem of induction. Everything you do is based on belief because there is no certainty in any scentific principal its falsifiability is an inherent characteristic of any inductive reasoning. . You ride a motorbike! Do you just belive it will stay on two wheels? Surely by your logic you can't conclude it will! What!? Right, seriously given yourw wondering down this half arsed path try reading karl popper, or some other logic based philosophy Oh and by your own example no i dont conclude it will stay on two wheels as the last time i was on one it ended up bouncing down the motorway decided not on two wheels. " . So you drove it like an idiot or you drove it badly... Neither are actually what you described! There's rationale conclusion though science and theres bollocks.. | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. . That's just being stupid... It's got a consequence just not a very big one! Whats the consequence?. Your allowing your insanity in irrationality to overcome your logical rationale!. You perception is that there's no detremental outcome to your beliefs are... Nonsensical at best Whats the detriment? " . That's the same question surely! | |||
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"That's why I luke mindfulness and Buddhism, as his holiness the Dali lama says , if science proves our religion wrong we will just adjust and change . We accept the discoveries and welcome them on our path to greater understanding " . Voilà | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. You should probably read up on the problem of induction. Everything you do is based on belief because there is no certainty in any scentific principal its falsifiability is an inherent characteristic of any inductive reasoning. . You ride a motorbike! Do you just belive it will stay on two wheels? Surely by your logic you can't conclude it will! What!? Right, seriously given yourw wondering down this half arsed path try reading karl popper, or some other logic based philosophy Oh and by your own example no i dont conclude it will stay on two wheels as the last time i was on one it ended up bouncing down the motorway decided not on two wheels. . So you drove it like an idiot or you drove it badly... Neither are actually what you described! There's rationale conclusion though science and theres bollocks.. " No i got drove into. Problem here matey is you dont have a basic understanding of science or logic. Ok ill try to explain it for you you have a theory you and every one else tests it every way you can think of it passes 1000 tests perfectly? You are now saying thats it its right,its a certainty its a law its a fact! They next day you come up with one more test...it fails. Now depsite it passing a thousand tests before it only had to fail once to be proven wrong. You have beliefs, you belive (based on what you deem credible evidence ) what you think is correct. Everything is a belief because you cant know anything for certain. Heck delusions and hallucinations easily prove that you have no rational reason to trust anything your senses tell you at all. | |||
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"That's why I luke mindfulness and Buddhism, as his holiness the Dali lama says , if science proves our religion wrong we will just adjust and change . We accept the discoveries and welcome them on our path to greater understanding . Voilà " Amen | |||
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"So, OP, your belief is that 'beliefs have consequences'. So what is the consequence of your belief? " . I base my beliefs on the best evidence available today!. Tomorrow they may change! | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. . That's just being stupid... It's got a consequence just not a very big one! Whats the consequence?. Your allowing your insanity in irrationality to overcome your logical rationale!. You perception is that there's no detremental outcome to your beliefs are... Nonsensical at best Whats the detriment? . That's the same question surely!" No im asking you what is the detriment of that belief. What negative outcome is caused by it? | |||
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"Hiya, The statement is a little sweeping, no? You might say conservatism, socialism or environmentalism are all beliefs... As much as Christianity, Islam or Judaism...?. No you're confusing two completely different philosophical outcomes!. Conservatives and socialists at least hold some beliefs by lifes outcomes and actions. So I'm socialistic by my life's outcome... That's intrinsic to me, I've accumulated evidence in my life to suggest that's the best way forward in politics. Rambling. Which bit have I confused you on?" Try one handed clapping. | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Consequently...... . I used to have beliefs when I was a teenager but then I grew out of them!. The trouble with beliefs, is they always lead you up a blind ally! Don't get me wrong I love being up blind alleys, just not for the wrong assumptions Drawing a conclusion doesn't mean you're right,, its just means you stopped considering the endless possibilities,,,, . No drawing a conclusion based on evidence is totally different than basing a conclusion based upon a pre determined set of beliefs?. So I belive in the science of climate change because I can see and feel and rationalise the science and the data. Whereas some folk will just say... It's all bollocks for no reason whatsoever.... They just "feel"or" belive " it. You should probably read up on the problem of induction. Everything you do is based on belief because there is no certainty in any scentific principal its falsifiability is an inherent characteristic of any inductive reasoning. . You ride a motorbike! Do you just belive it will stay on two wheels? Surely by your logic you can't conclude it will! What!? Right, seriously given yourw wondering down this half arsed path try reading karl popper, or some other logic based philosophy Oh and by your own example no i dont conclude it will stay on two wheels as the last time i was on one it ended up bouncing down the motorway decided not on two wheels. . So you drove it like an idiot or you drove it badly... Neither are actually what you described! There's rationale conclusion though science and theres bollocks.. No i got drove into. Problem here matey is you dont have a basic understanding of science or logic. Ok ill try to explain it for you you have a theory you and every one else tests it every way you can think of it passes 1000 tests perfectly? You are now saying thats it its right,its a certainty its a law its a fact! They next day you come up with one more test...it fails. Now depsite it passing a thousand tests before it only had to fail once to be proven wrong. You have beliefs, you belive (based on what you deem credible evidence ) what you think is correct. Everything is a belief because you cant know anything for certain. Heck delusions and hallucinations easily prove that you have no rational reason to trust anything your senses tell you at all. " . So your saying I shouldn't base my beliefs on 1000 tests that say... The earth's round or that motor bikes balance at speed because tomorrow... I could be proved wrong!. Why can't I just adjust my beliefs tomorrow when there proved wrong?. Should I not ride motorbikes or sail around the earth until it's unequivocally proven!. I like to think my beliefs are born from facts as we know them and that anytime they could change as and when we know better... That doesnt give me the excuse to say frock wearer's or black's are sub human.... Because tomorrow I think we might finotevidence to conclude my beliefs right!. People are either wrong in their beliefs as we know them or there not | |||
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"Hiya, The statement is a little sweeping, no? You might say conservatism, socialism or environmentalism are all beliefs... As much as Christianity, Islam or Judaism...?. No you're confusing two completely different philosophical outcomes!. Conservatives and socialists at least hold some beliefs by lifes outcomes and actions. So I'm socialistic by my life's outcome... That's intrinsic to me, I've accumulated evidence in my life to suggest that's the best way forward in politics. Rambling. Which bit have I confused you on? Try one handed clapping." I just did... and it worked perfectly... although I will concede the result was slightly quieter than my usual two handed clap....... | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. . That's just being stupid... It's got a consequence just not a very big one! Whats the consequence?. Your allowing your insanity in irrationality to overcome your logical rationale!. You perception is that there's no detremental outcome to your beliefs are... Nonsensical at best Whats the detriment? . That's the same question surely! No im asking you what is the detriment of that belief. What negative outcome is caused by it?" . Because you've clearly entered insanity or at least your not thinking logically... Why would you not think either of them are not detrimental to your life? | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. . That's just being stupid... It's got a consequence just not a very big one! Whats the consequence?. Your allowing your insanity in irrationality to overcome your logical rationale!. You perception is that there's no detremental outcome to your beliefs are... Nonsensical at best Whats the detriment? . That's the same question surely! No im asking you what is the detriment of that belief. What negative outcome is caused by it?. Because you've clearly entered insanity or at least your not thinking logically... Why would you not think either of them are not detrimental to your life?" . This gets me to my very point of the thread! If you hold crazy beliefs based on nothing but do nothing about those beliefs, then your at best Just insane... But if you start building space ships to retrieve said unicorns.. Then your beliefs have consequences, no! | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. . That's just being stupid... It's got a consequence just not a very big one! Whats the consequence?. Your allowing your insanity in irrationality to overcome your logical rationale!. You perception is that there's no detremental outcome to your beliefs are... Nonsensical at best Whats the detriment? . That's the same question surely! No im asking you what is the detriment of that belief. What negative outcome is caused by it?. Because you've clearly entered insanity or at least your not thinking logically... Why would you not think either of them are not detrimental to your life?. This gets me to my very point of the thread! If you hold crazy beliefs based on nothing but do nothing about those beliefs, then your at best Just insane... But if you start building space ships to retrieve said unicorns.. Then your beliefs have consequences, no!" I understand that the NHS are advising thar only emerency cases attend the hospitals at the moment. Seek help from 111 or your pharmacy. Or go to bed to sober up. | |||
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"All beliefs? All beliefs! That's why they call them beliefs. Really? Please run me through the logic and entomology that lead you to the conclusion that consequences is why they are called beliefs. Go for it. I dunno you tell me! I've never had irrational belief in my life. Great ok, but how does that qualify your statement? Lots of beliefs have no consequences at all. If i belive a link unicorn lives in the center of our universe there is no consequence to that belief. . That's just being stupid... It's got a consequence just not a very big one! Whats the consequence?. Your allowing your insanity in irrationality to overcome your logical rationale!. You perception is that there's no detremental outcome to your beliefs are... Nonsensical at best Whats the detriment? . That's the same question surely! No im asking you what is the detriment of that belief. What negative outcome is caused by it?. Because you've clearly entered insanity or at least your not thinking logically... Why would you not think either of them are not detrimental to your life?. This gets me to my very point of the thread! If you hold crazy beliefs based on nothing but do nothing about those beliefs, then your at best Just insane... But if you start building space ships to retrieve said unicorns.. Then your beliefs have consequences, no! I understand that the NHS are advising thar only emerency cases attend the hospitals at the moment. Seek help from 111 or your pharmacy. Or go to bed to sober up." . The night is early... I'm thinking of cracking open a bottle of Shiraz | |||
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