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"What about those sticks you get in your G&T on BA flights, they could be a hazard, too. " Its the nuts on planes you wanna be careful of!! | |||
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"Why don't you think it's safe? " I'm going to have a stab in the dark here (pun intended) you can do some serious damage with a knitting needle, even the loop ones that are connected by a flexible bit in the middle, they should be banned, even if it's a sweet little old lady, they could be taken from her and used for hijacking, after all wasn't the planes that hit the twin towers taken over with knives? | |||
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"Why would your eyes be poked out? Did the lady have poor motor skills?" . What about if an aircraft hits turbulence or jolts suddenly . I am always extremely careful with sharp objects such as knives . | |||
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"Why don't you think it's safe? " She might have been knitting an Uzi. Knit one, purl one, shoot one. | |||
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"You do realise that nitting "needles" are needles, in the same way that an onboard plastic "knife" is a knife? Unless she was practising ninja knitting, or your pilot was doing stunts, I doubt they would have posed a significant risk. Untethered luggage is more of a risk. If the FAA deems them (relatively) safe, I doubt you need worry about a plot of (knitted) scarf wearing assassins taking over the aircraft. " .However plastic knives are rounded , not really sharp and will bounce off you as opposed to poking you in the eye . | |||
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"Why don't you think it's safe? I'm going to have a stab in the dark here (pun intended) you can do some serious damage with a knitting needle, even the loop ones that are connected by a flexible bit in the middle, they should be banned, even if it's a sweet little old lady, they could be taken from her and used for hijacking, after all wasn't the planes that hit the twin towers taken over with knives?" But then you'd have to ban all pointy things, like pens. I'm not having my Mont Blanc confiscated for only wanting to use hand luggage. It's silly. | |||
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"Why don't you think it's safe? She might have been knitting an Uzi. Knit one, purl one, shoot one. " | |||
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"You wanted her to stop? Wow! Even more wow is that you posted this and probably expected people to agree you were right in asking" . I did not necessary expect people to agree by was shocked that they were allowed on a plane . In the past I had a drill bit which is far less sharp removed from my hand luggage . | |||
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"You do realise that nitting "needles" are needles, in the same way that an onboard plastic "knife" is a knife? Unless she was practising ninja knitting, or your pilot was doing stunts, I doubt they would have posed a significant risk. Untethered luggage is more of a risk. If the FAA deems them (relatively) safe, I doubt you need worry about a plot of (knitted) scarf wearing assassins taking over the aircraft. .However plastic knives are rounded , not really sharp and will bounce off you as opposed to poking you in the eye . " why would they poke you in the eye, I'm sure if you hit bad turbulence she would of put them down, I'd worry about more important things | |||
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"Why would your eyes be poked out? Did the lady have poor motor skills?. What about if an aircraft hits turbulence or jolts suddenly . I am always extremely careful with sharp objects such as knives ." I've never heard of someone losing an eye in turbulence as a result of someone knitting. Absurd phobia. | |||
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"Why would your eyes be poked out? Did the lady have poor motor skills?. What about if an aircraft hits turbulence or jolts suddenly . I am always extremely careful with sharp objects such as knives ." You worry THAT much about stuff? It's fine, honestly, humankind made it this far against the ravages of nature and time without health and safety, let's not give it too high a priority, I doubt a lady with a knitting needle in a bouncy plane is going to be your undoing or anyone elses | |||
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"You wanted her to stop? Wow! Even more wow is that you posted this and probably expected people to agree you were right in asking. I did not necessary expect people to agree by was shocked that they were allowed on a plane . In the past I had a drill bit which is far less sharp removed from my hand luggage ." Probably the length and material contributed to the confiscation. You should've checked it. | |||
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"You wanted her to stop? Wow! Even more wow is that you posted this and probably expected people to agree you were right in asking. I did not necessary expect people to agree by was shocked that they were allowed on a plane . In the past I had a drill bit which is far less sharp removed from my hand luggage ." new years resolution to make oneself of the regs before one flies.. why would you have a drill bit in your hand luggage, on your person..? | |||
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"You wanted her to stop? Wow! Even more wow is that you posted this and probably expected people to agree you were right in asking. I did not necessary expect people to agree by was shocked that they were allowed on a plane . In the past I had a drill bit which is far less sharp removed from my hand luggage ." Fuck it we're down the rabbit hole, why did you have a drill but in your hand luggage | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award.." . However being poked in the eye by a finger or elbow is unlikely to be much damage as they are rounded and smooth. A needle is a sharp object which someone is constantly moving up and down. I definitely do not want to sit beside anyone using a knitting needle . | |||
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"You wanted her to stop? Wow! Even more wow is that you posted this and probably expected people to agree you were right in asking. I did not necessary expect people to agree by was shocked that they were allowed on a plane . In the past I had a drill bit which is far less sharp removed from my hand luggage . Fuck it we're down the rabbit hole, why did you have a drill but in your hand luggage " . I had purchased it in Belfast and was taking it back to London | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award... However being poked in the eye by a finger or elbow is unlikely to be much damage as they are rounded and smooth. A needle is a sharp object which someone is constantly moving up and down. I definitely do not want to sit beside anyone using a knitting needle ." the pointy bit points down at an angle of err whatever degree required and the other end has the little size thingies which are not pointed.. unless the turbulence was of such an extreme that the said knitter was static as in strapped in and you were propelled up and landed at the exact angle required which given that the needles are held at about 45 degrees its not going to happen.. your more likely to choke on your in flight drink in umbrage and sever harrumphing when told by the attendants that its ok for the person to knit.. | |||
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"Why don't you think it's safe? She might have been knitting an Uzi. Knit one, purl one, shoot one. " Pmsl!! | |||
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"That's it people! Healthy and safety police! Ban all pointy things!!! No pens,pencils, bony elbows, long fingernails, big hardons. Errrrm. ..oh forks,they have pointy bits! Oh and knobbly knees, they are definitely a stab risk!! " . All the items to which you refer are less of a risk as they are rounded to a certain extent and you would have to make a serious effort to do any damage . Knitting needles are by definition sharp objects and anyone using a needle will be constantly moving it up and down.. Despite the various comments made I still think it is totally unacceptable to use needles on a flight when there could be sharp movement or turbulence . No harm in being safety conscious | |||
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"That's it people! Healthy and safety police! Ban all pointy things!!! No pens,pencils, bony elbows, long fingernails, big hardons. Errrrm. ..oh forks,they have pointy bits! Oh and knobbly knees, they are definitely a stab risk!! . All the items to which you refer are less of a risk as they are rounded to a certain extent and you would have to make a serious effort to do any damage . Knitting needles are by definition sharp objects and anyone using a needle will be constantly moving it up and down.. Despite the various comments made I still think it is totally unacceptable to use needles on a flight when there could be sharp movement or turbulence . No harm in being safety conscious " Ball point pens have a sharper point than knitting needles. | |||
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"You wanted her to stop? Wow! Even more wow is that you posted this and probably expected people to agree you were right in asking. I did not necessary expect people to agree by was shocked that they were allowed on a plane . In the past I had a drill bit which is far less sharp removed from my hand luggage . Fuck it we're down the rabbit hole, why did you have a drill but in your hand luggage . I had purchased it in Belfast and was taking it back to London " And that is as good an explanation as any, I was thinking all sorts, that it was your favourite drill bit and you were taking it in holiday that kind of thing, ok, as you were | |||
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"Thermos Flask Lithium Batteries Condoms Evian Sellotape All of these things are available from the shops post-security check. They are far more deadly than a knitting needle. " You can also buy knives airside in a lot of airports. Swiss Army knives are pretty common in duty free. | |||
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"Thermos Flask Lithium Batteries Condoms Evian Sellotape All of these things are available from the shops post-security check. They are far more deadly than a knitting needle. " . How can they be . Needles can be accidentally poked into you if there is turbulence . Most people will keep the items to which you refer inside their hand luggage and as such pose no danger | |||
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"That's it people! Healthy and safety police! Ban all pointy things!!! No pens,pencils, bony elbows, long fingernails, big hardons. Errrrm. ..oh forks,they have pointy bits! Oh and knobbly knees, they are definitely a stab risk!! . All the items to which you refer are less of a risk as they are rounded to a certain extent and you would have to make a serious effort to do any damage . Knitting needles are by definition sharp objects and anyone using a needle will be constantly moving it up and down.. Despite the various comments made I still think it is totally unacceptable to use needles on a flight when there could be sharp movement or turbulence . No harm in being safety conscious Ball point pens have a sharper point than knitting needles. " . I agree but people are not constantly moving pens up and down or poking them into things . | |||
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"Thermos Flask Lithium Batteries Condoms Evian Sellotape All of these things are available from the shops post-security check. They are far more deadly than a knitting needle. . How can they be . Needles can be accidentally poked into you if there is turbulence . Most people will keep the items to which you refer inside their hand luggage and as such pose no danger " Knitting needles aren't sharp enough to stab someone in the body during a light knock (turbulence isn't THAT bad). To get one in your eye is unlikely. Also, I can't find any incidents of knitting needle stabbings mid flight. | |||
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"That's it people! Healthy and safety police! Ban all pointy things!!! No pens,pencils, bony elbows, long fingernails, big hardons. Errrrm. ..oh forks,they have pointy bits! Oh and knobbly knees, they are definitely a stab risk!! . All the items to which you refer are less of a risk as they are rounded to a certain extent and you would have to make a serious effort to do any damage . Knitting needles are by definition sharp objects and anyone using a needle will be constantly moving it up and down.. Despite the various comments made I still think it is totally unacceptable to use needles on a flight when there could be sharp movement or turbulence . No harm in being safety conscious Ball point pens have a sharper point than knitting needles. . I agree but people are not constantly moving pens up and down or poking them into things . " Yeh they are, loads of people do crosswords - the pen isn't in constant contact with the paper, it moves and they lift it up to rest or think. I'd even bet more passengers do crosswords or puzzles than knit on board. | |||
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"Thermos Flask Lithium Batteries Condoms Evian Sellotape All of these things are available from the shops post-security check. They are far more deadly than a knitting needle. " McGyver could make a bomb using those bits | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award.." Let me guess... You're a Health and Safety Inspector! | |||
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"Thermos Flask Lithium Batteries Condoms Evian Sellotape All of these things are available from the shops post-security check. They are far more deadly than a knitting needle. McGyver could make a bomb using those bits " Ding Ding - We Have a winner. | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award.. Let me guess... You're a Health and Safety Inspector!" nope.. not even close.. though before i was retired i used to carry out dynamic risk assessments for incidents whereby there was an actual real danger but never attended anything remotely like a turbulence or otherwise caused knitting needle injury.. then again that would have been the LAS.. | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award.. Let me guess... You're a Health and Safety Inspector! nope.. not even close.. though before i was retired i used to carry out dynamic risk assessments for incidents whereby there was an actual real danger but never attended anything remotely like a turbulence or otherwise caused knitting needle injury.. then again that would have been the LAS.. " Oooops, sorry, didn't mean you were. I meant the OP was in 'elf and safety! | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award.. Let me guess... You're a Health and Safety Inspector! nope.. not even close.. though before i was retired i used to carry out dynamic risk assessments for incidents whereby there was an actual real danger but never attended anything remotely like a turbulence or otherwise caused knitting needle injury.. then again that would have been the LAS.. Oooops, sorry, didn't mean you were. I meant the OP was in 'elf and safety!" . I am not a health and safety inspector but see no harm in being safety conscious . You only get one set of eyes and as such there is no point in taking unnecessary risks . In any event most health and safety regulations are there for good reasons . | |||
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"That's it people! Healthy and safety police! Ban all pointy things!!! No pens,pencils, bony elbows, long fingernails, big hardons. Errrrm. ..oh forks,they have pointy bits! Oh and knobbly knees, they are definitely a stab risk!! . All the items to which you refer are less of a risk as they are rounded to a certain extent and you would have to make a serious effort to do any damage . Knitting needles are by definition sharp objects and anyone using a needle will be constantly moving it up and down.. Despite the various comments made I still think it is totally unacceptable to use needles on a flight when there could be sharp movement or turbulence . No harm in being safety conscious " A lot of damage can be done with finger nails! Far more than small knitting needles. There is being safety conscious, and then there is being daft! | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award.. Let me guess... You're a Health and Safety Inspector! nope.. not even close.. though before i was retired i used to carry out dynamic risk assessments for incidents whereby there was an actual real danger but never attended anything remotely like a turbulence or otherwise caused knitting needle injury.. then again that would have been the LAS.. Oooops, sorry, didn't mean you were. I meant the OP was in 'elf and safety!. I am not a health and safety inspector but see no harm in being safety conscious . You only get one set of eyes and as such there is no point in taking unnecessary risks . In any event most health and safety regulations are there for good reasons . " How on earth do you connect the dots between an old lady knitting and Un necessary risk?! Yes you only get 1 set of eyes, but there are a hundred things of the same 'risk level' as being poked with a small knitting needle in turbulence. | |||
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"Omg is this post for real???? If so the OP seriously needs to get a grip!. If it had of been me I would have told you to fuck right off telling me how I should or shouldn't keep myself occupied on a flight. What right do you have telling her to stop??. I wouldn't go out over the next few days the weather is going to be rough and u never know a tree branch may fall and hit you!!!!" . Probably every right and I make no apologies for asking someone not to use needles while sitting beside me . These needles are sharp pointed objects and I can see no possible justification for using them on a plane . The risks associated with weather so not bother me as they can be mitigated . Needles however as sharp pointed objects are an entirely different issue . | |||
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"Omg is this post for real???? If so the OP seriously needs to get a grip!. If it had of been me I would have told you to fuck right off telling me how I should or shouldn't keep myself occupied on a flight. What right do you have telling her to stop??. I wouldn't go out over the next few days the weather is going to be rough and u never know a tree branch may fall and hit you!!!!. Probably every right and I make no apologies for asking someone not to use needles while sitting beside me . These needles are sharp pointed objects and I can see no possible justification for using them on a plane . The risks associated with weather so not bother me as they can be mitigated . Needles however as sharp pointed objects are an entirely different issue . " Knitting needles are blunt not sharpe! So I carry a pretty big needle with me wherever i go, would that mean you wouldn't want me to sit next to you on a plane? Even if it could save my life?. Having just had a browse on the net not 1 person has ever died due to a stray knitting needle whilst being used on a flight. So maybe your being a little melodramatic | |||
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"Omg is this post for real???? If so the OP seriously needs to get a grip!. If it had of been me I would have told you to fuck right off telling me how I should or shouldn't keep myself occupied on a flight. What right do you have telling her to stop??. I wouldn't go out over the next few days the weather is going to be rough and u never know a tree branch may fall and hit you!!!!. Probably every right and I make no apologies for asking someone not to use needles while sitting beside me . These needles are sharp pointed objects and I can see no possible justification for using them on a plane . The risks associated with weather so not bother me as they can be mitigated . Needles however as sharp pointed objects are an entirely different issue . Knitting needles are blunt not sharpe! So I carry a pretty big needle with me wherever i go, would that mean you wouldn't want me to sit next to you on a plane? Even if it could save my life?. Having just had a browse on the net not 1 person has ever died due to a stray knitting needle whilst being used on a flight. So maybe your being a little melodramatic " . I have no objection to anyone carrying needles for medical reasons as this does not pose any real risk.. The use of needles for medical reasons would be under supervision and for a short period . Some knitting who is constantly moving a needle on a plane is creating an unnecessary risk which can be avoided . | |||
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"Omg is this post for real???? If so the OP seriously needs to get a grip!. If it had of been me I would have told you to fuck right off telling me how I should or shouldn't keep myself occupied on a flight. What right do you have telling her to stop??. I wouldn't go out over the next few days the weather is going to be rough and u never know a tree branch may fall and hit you!!!!. Probably every right and I make no apologies for asking someone not to use needles while sitting beside me . These needles are sharp pointed objects and I can see no possible justification for using them on a plane . The risks associated with weather so not bother me as they can be mitigated . Needles however as sharp pointed objects are an entirely different issue . Knitting needles are blunt not sharpe! So I carry a pretty big needle with me wherever i go, would that mean you wouldn't want me to sit next to you on a plane? Even if it could save my life?. Having just had a browse on the net not 1 person has ever died due to a stray knitting needle whilst being used on a flight. So maybe your being a little melodramatic . I have no objection to anyone carrying needles for medical reasons as this does not pose any real risk.. The use of needles for medical reasons would be under supervision and for a short period . Some knitting who is constantly moving a needle on a plane is creating an unnecessary risk which can be avoided . " Are you for real? A needle containing adrenalin or insulin would pose a MUCH greater risk if it was given to a person who didn't need it, it could be catastrophic. And as for your comment it would be undersupervision I think you have that wrong no one has or needs to supervise me or another person that carries one. So infact of a person was to use one on board a flight and hit turbulence just as they were injecting and it say hit you it would cause more damage than a knitting needle. On that note I bid you good luck with further flights and pray I never sit next to you, I wouldn't mind sitting behind you though as I would be like a naughty child kicking your chair all the flight hahahahah. Let's hope the lady in question is now enjoying her Xmas break and laughing about the whole situation which you caused. | |||
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"Omg is this post for real???? If so the OP seriously needs to get a grip!. If it had of been me I would have told you to fuck right off telling me how I should or shouldn't keep myself occupied on a flight. What right do you have telling her to stop??. I wouldn't go out over the next few days the weather is going to be rough and u never know a tree branch may fall and hit you!!!!. Probably every right and I make no apologies for asking someone not to use needles while sitting beside me . These needles are sharp pointed objects and I can see no possible justification for using them on a plane . The risks associated with weather so not bother me as they can be mitigated . Needles however as sharp pointed objects are an entirely different issue . " Knitting needles aren't sharp, they're blunt, round ended objects. It wouldn't be sensible to try and knit with sharp needles. It is possible that if aimed directly at your eye and propelled with some force they would damage it but it's also highly unlikely that the act of knitting would pose any such danger to a casual observer. I was severely damaged as a child by the results of knitting, some of the cardigans my mum made me were shocking | |||
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"Omg is this post for real???? If so the OP seriously needs to get a grip!. If it had of been me I would have told you to fuck right off telling me how I should or shouldn't keep myself occupied on a flight. What right do you have telling her to stop??. I wouldn't go out over the next few days the weather is going to be rough and u never know a tree branch may fall and hit you!!!!. Probably every right and I make no apologies for asking someone not to use needles while sitting beside me . These needles are sharp pointed objects and I can see no possible justification for using them on a plane . The risks associated with weather so not bother me as they can be mitigated . Needles however as sharp pointed objects are an entirely different issue . Knitting needles are blunt not sharpe! So I carry a pretty big needle with me wherever i go, would that mean you wouldn't want me to sit next to you on a plane? Even if it could save my life?. Having just had a browse on the net not 1 person has ever died due to a stray knitting needle whilst being used on a flight. So maybe your being a little melodramatic . I have no objection to anyone carrying needles for medical reasons as this does not pose any real risk.. The use of needles for medical reasons would be under supervision and for a short period . Some knitting who is constantly moving a needle on a plane is creating an unnecessary risk which can be avoided . " Constantly moving? Have you seen knitting? It's hardly thrashing them about like a set of drum sticks is it? It's about a gentle a hobby as I could imagine! Your either the greyest person ever to be worried by the ferocity of a good knit, or a comic genius | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award.. Let me guess... You're a Health and Safety Inspector! nope.. not even close.. though before i was retired i used to carry out dynamic risk assessments for incidents whereby there was an actual real danger but never attended anything remotely like a turbulence or otherwise caused knitting needle injury.. then again that would have been the LAS.. Oooops, sorry, didn't mean you were. I meant the OP was in 'elf and safety!. I am not a health and safety inspector but see no harm in being safety conscious . You only get one set of eyes and as such there is no point in taking unnecessary risks . In any event most health and safety regulations are there for good reasons . " You just summed it up nicely yourself, 'most health and safety regulations are there for good reasons', there isn't a regulation about using knitting needles so it isn't deemed a risk. My hair used to be quite long, would you have refused to sit by me in case the turbulence made my hair wind itself around your neck and strangle you? That's how ridiculous you sound here, people like you are the reason that health and safety got stupidly strict, its time for you to chill out love or its a heart attack that will finish you off, not a rogue knitting needle wielded by the demon granny! | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that long pointy thick needles are allowed through security and on to the airplane. " Yeah, me too!! | |||
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"Omg is this post for real???? If so the OP seriously needs to get a grip!. If it had of been me I would have told you to fuck right off telling me how I should or shouldn't keep myself occupied on a flight. What right do you have telling her to stop??. I wouldn't go out over the next few days the weather is going to be rough and u never know a tree branch may fall and hit you!!!!. Probably every right and I make no apologies for asking someone not to use needles while sitting beside me . These needles are sharp pointed objects and I can see no possible justification for using them on a plane . The risks associated with weather so not bother me as they can be mitigated . Needles however as sharp pointed objects are an entirely different issue . " They are not sharp. There is justification for using them as the knitter was knitting something which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do and the use of such a knitted object will bring a positive benefit to whoever is given it. Your rather risible attitude which is borne of a lack of knowledge and understanding of the facts of the situation and is based on groundless fear rather than reason and sense. It is your attitude which needs amendment. Health and safety laws are there to enable people to carry out tasks by giving them or their supervisory authorities the tools to assess and manage the risks of any hazards coming to pass. When this is done with objective and competent knowledge of the laws and the facts of a situation then very few things need be prohibited. When, however, regulations are interpreted by incompetent or lazy people then they are unable to use the methods to manage risks and go for the idiotic and impotent reaction of banning things to save them figuring out how to deal with something. Knitting needles... repeat that a few times and see if it starts to sound a little more ridiculous to be scared of them. | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award.. Let me guess... You're a Health and Safety Inspector! nope.. not even close.. though before i was retired i used to carry out dynamic risk assessments for incidents whereby there was an actual real danger but never attended anything remotely like a turbulence or otherwise caused knitting needle injury.. then again that would have been the LAS.. Oooops, sorry, didn't mean you were. I meant the OP was in 'elf and safety!. I am not a health and safety inspector but see no harm in being safety conscious . You only get one set of eyes and as such there is no point in taking unnecessary risks . In any event most health and safety regulations are there for good reasons . You just summed it up nicely yourself, 'most health and safety regulations are there for good reasons', there isn't a regulation about using knitting needles so it isn't deemed a risk. My hair used to be quite long, would you have refused to sit by me in case the turbulence made my hair wind itself around your neck and strangle you? That's how ridiculous you sound here, people like you are the reason that health and safety got stupidly strict, its time for you to chill out love or its a heart attack that will finish you off, not a rogue knitting needle wielded by the demon granny!" . Why would anyone be bothered about someone's hair ?. It is very different to a sharp object such as a needle . As far as I am aware airport security staff have never considered long hair to be a risk but do have the powers to confiscate needles . | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award.. Let me guess... You're a Health and Safety Inspector! nope.. not even close.. though before i was retired i used to carry out dynamic risk assessments for incidents whereby there was an actual real danger but never attended anything remotely like a turbulence or otherwise caused knitting needle injury.. then again that would have been the LAS.. Oooops, sorry, didn't mean you were. I meant the OP was in 'elf and safety!. I am not a health and safety inspector but see no harm in being safety conscious . You only get one set of eyes and as such there is no point in taking unnecessary risks . In any event most health and safety regulations are there for good reasons . You just summed it up nicely yourself, 'most health and safety regulations are there for good reasons', there isn't a regulation about using knitting needles so it isn't deemed a risk. My hair used to be quite long, would you have refused to sit by me in case the turbulence made my hair wind itself around your neck and strangle you? That's how ridiculous you sound here, people like you are the reason that health and safety got stupidly strict, its time for you to chill out love or its a heart attack that will finish you off, not a rogue knitting needle wielded by the demon granny!. Why would anyone be bothered about someone's hair ?. It is very different to a sharp object such as a needle . As far as I am aware airport security staff have never considered long hair to be a risk but do have the powers to confiscate needles . " That's my point, they wouldn't be bothered about hair and they aren't bothered about knitting needles, that kinda speaks for itself. | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award.. Let me guess... You're a Health and Safety Inspector! nope.. not even close.. though before i was retired i used to carry out dynamic risk assessments for incidents whereby there was an actual real danger but never attended anything remotely like a turbulence or otherwise caused knitting needle injury.. then again that would have been the LAS.. Oooops, sorry, didn't mean you were. I meant the OP was in 'elf and safety!. I am not a health and safety inspector but see no harm in being safety conscious . You only get one set of eyes and as such there is no point in taking unnecessary risks . In any event most health and safety regulations are there for good reasons . You just summed it up nicely yourself, 'most health and safety regulations are there for good reasons', there isn't a regulation about using knitting needles so it isn't deemed a risk. My hair used to be quite long, would you have refused to sit by me in case the turbulence made my hair wind itself around your neck and strangle you? That's how ridiculous you sound here, people like you are the reason that health and safety got stupidly strict, its time for you to chill out love or its a heart attack that will finish you off, not a rogue knitting needle wielded by the demon granny!. Why would anyone be bothered about someone's hair ?. It is very different to a sharp object such as a needle . As far as I am aware airport security staff have never considered long hair to be a risk but do have the powers to confiscate needles . " Hello . Have you noticed any of the posts explaining that knitting needles aren't sharp. I knit, I own many pairs of knitting needles and they aren't sharp. Sharp needles would make knitting difficult and dangerous. | |||
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"Why would your eyes be poked out? Did the lady have poor motor skills?. What about if an aircraft hits turbulence or jolts suddenly . I am always extremely careful with sharp objects such as knives ." Worse still,she could have knit you an arran kardigan. Phew!!Close call. | |||
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"It's not the needles, it's what they may end up knitting that's the concern. " That might be a legitimate concern. At 35,000 ft, the last thing they want is any potential jumpers | |||
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"It's not the needles, it's what they may end up knitting that's the concern. That might be a legitimate concern. At 35,000 ft, the last thing they want is any potential jumpers " | |||
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"Swiss Army knives are ok. Mine has been through many airports in my pocket. Blade is less than four inches, so ok. My reply looks ok ... But still looking forward to the funniest piss-taking..." Only on flights from Zurich | |||
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"what about other knitting related items? what is allowed? This is a rather woolly area!" But there is a pattern emerging | |||
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"what about other knitting related items? what is allowed? This is a rather woolly area! But there is a pattern emerging " Yes I think it is a poncho! | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle " sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others " . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors " Bamboo canes at eye level do present a significant risk sometimes bending forward it's possible to just miss one going in your eye. I would like to know Pat if you've ever knitted? | |||
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"IDespite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors " Do you know, I actually believe you probably do | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors Bamboo canes at eye level do present a significant risk sometimes bending forward it's possible to just miss one going in your eye. I would like to know Pat if you've ever knitted?" last time I looked knitting needles were plastic too and an angry man could do more damage with his fist think, you've made a bigger deal out of this than was required and probably ruined another person's flight home | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors Bamboo canes at eye level do present a significant risk sometimes bending forward it's possible to just miss one going in your eye. I would like to know Pat if you've ever knitted?" . As a child yes . Did tapestry as part of a school project . | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors Bamboo canes at eye level do present a significant risk sometimes bending forward it's possible to just miss one going in your eye. I would like to know Pat if you've ever knitted?. As a child yes . Did tapestry as part of a school project ." Tapestry isn't knitting. Was the woman knitting, embroiding or doing tapestry? | |||
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"Why would your eyes be poked out? Did the lady have poor motor skills?. What about if an aircraft hits turbulence or jolts suddenly . I am always extremely careful with sharp objects such as knives ." OMG anyone got a shovel. There again what if some one tears up the seat covering to make cord to strangle you or what if some one sticks there foot out into the isle and trips you up, what if! | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle " I was going to say well done on this obviously funny pretend post but realised who the OP is so now I think it may be a serious rant instead | |||
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"Why would your eyes be poked out? Did the lady have poor motor skills?. What about if an aircraft hits turbulence or jolts suddenly . I am always extremely careful with sharp objects such as knives . OMG anyone got a shovel. There again what if some one tears up the seat covering to make cord to strangle you or what if some one sticks there foot out into the isle and trips you up, what if!" Don't forget the oxygen masks. You can make a good garrotte out of one of those. I must ask though, why are knitting needles allowed but not nail files? | |||
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"Just one thing to the OP did you feel any remorse at all for preventing the lady from knitting when she was well within her rights to do so? maybe it was her way of overcoming nervousness during flight?" I must admit that the OP comes across as a bit of a bully in his opening post. Surely at the point a steward told him he was wrong and that the other passenger was doing nothing wrong he should have backed down. Poor woman probably only stopped to shut him up | |||
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"Just one thing to the OP did you feel any remorse at all for preventing the lady from knitting when she was well within her rights to do so? maybe it was her way of overcoming nervousness during flight? I must admit that the OP comes across as a bit of a bully in his opening post. Surely at the point a steward told him he was wrong and that the other passenger was doing nothing wrong he should have backed down. Poor woman probably only stopped to shut him up" It is a pity that the lady was intimidated into stopping,but I guess alas that's life unfortunately. | |||
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"Just one thing to the OP did you feel any remorse at all for preventing the lady from knitting when she was well within her rights to do so? maybe it was her way of overcoming nervousness during flight?" . It was an amicable discussion between all parties , namely the air stewardess , myself and the passenger . If any of us had felt that strongly about the issue , one of us could have moved seats . The lady concerned was more than capable of looking after herself and I do not think was the type of person that could be bullied . | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors Bamboo canes at eye level do present a significant risk sometimes bending forward it's possible to just miss one going in your eye. I would like to know Pat if you've ever knitted? last time I looked knitting needles were plastic too and an angry man could do more damage with his fist think, you've made a bigger deal out of this than was required and probably ruined another person's flight home " . I don't think anyones flight was ruined as the issue was discussed on an amicable basis . There were lots of spare seats available and if one of us had felt strongly about the issue , there was always the option to move seats . | |||
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"Just one thing to the OP did you feel any remorse at all for preventing the lady from knitting when she was well within her rights to do so? maybe it was her way of overcoming nervousness during flight? I must admit that the OP comes across as a bit of a bully in his opening post. Surely at the point a steward told him he was wrong and that the other passenger was doing nothing wrong he should have backed down. Poor woman probably only stopped to shut him up It is a pity that the lady was intimidated into stopping,but I guess alas that's life unfortunately." . As the issue was resolved on an amicable basis why would either of us feel any remorse . ? There was the option to move seats if either of us felt inconvenienced . How would intimidation come into the issue . The lady concerned was more than capable of looking after herself. | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors Bamboo canes at eye level do present a significant risk sometimes bending forward it's possible to just miss one going in your eye. I would like to know Pat if you've ever knitted? last time I looked knitting needles were plastic too and an angry man could do more damage with his fist think, you've made a bigger deal out of this than was required and probably ruined another person's flight home . I don't think anyones flight was ruined as the issue was discussed on an amicable basis . There were lots of spare seats available and if one of us had felt strongly about the issue , there was always the option to move seats ." hardly a friendly way to go about flying from A to B bringing up a totally negative unnecessary conversation did you feel threatened by this woman knitting next to you ,I suggest not ,did you really think she was going to poke your eye out with a knitting needle ,I think not ,are you a negative person ,I think yes or why would you have created this thread ,it certainly doesn't make you look attractive to others | |||
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"Op one can just as easily be poked in the eye in turbulence with a finger or an elbow.. i think you over reacted for whatever reason.. to you goes the 2015 bah humbug grumpy old git award... However being poked in the eye by a finger or elbow is unlikely to be much damage as they are rounded and smooth. A needle is a sharp object which someone is constantly moving up and down. I definitely do not want to sit beside anyone using a knitting needle ." The wool she was using could strangulated you, yet you didn't worry about that | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors Bamboo canes at eye level do present a significant risk sometimes bending forward it's possible to just miss one going in your eye. I would like to know Pat if you've ever knitted? last time I looked knitting needles were plastic too and an angry man could do more damage with his fist think, you've made a bigger deal out of this than was required and probably ruined another person's flight home . I don't think anyones flight was ruined as the issue was discussed on an amicable basis . There were lots of spare seats available and if one of us had felt strongly about the issue , there was always the option to move seats . hardly a friendly way to go about flying from A to B bringing up a totally negative unnecessary conversation did you feel threatened by this woman knitting next to you ,I suggest not ,did you really think she was going to poke your eye out with a knitting needle ,I think not ,are you a negative person ,I think yes or why would you have created this thread ,it certainly doesn't make you look attractive to others " . I don't think either myself or the passenger concerned will be losing too much sleep over the issue . The fact remains that bringing needles on to an aeroplane is a grey area and to a certain extent a discretionary one . I can only re iterate that I have no desire to sit beside a passenger who is constantly pulling a needle up and down . | |||
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"Then I would suggest you use an alternative mode of transport. " Would probably feel intimidated by the waves moving up and down if travelling by sea. | |||
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"Then I would suggest you use an alternative mode of transport. Would probably feel intimidated by the waves moving up and down if travelling by sea. " Is that even allowed? | |||
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"Why don't you think it's safe? She might have been knitting an Uzi. Knit one, purl one, shoot one. " | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors Bamboo canes at eye level do present a significant risk sometimes bending forward it's possible to just miss one going in your eye. I would like to know Pat if you've ever knitted? last time I looked knitting needles were plastic too and an angry man could do more damage with his fist think, you've made a bigger deal out of this than was required and probably ruined another person's flight home . I don't think anyones flight was ruined as the issue was discussed on an amicable basis . There were lots of spare seats available and if one of us had felt strongly about the issue , there was always the option to move seats . hardly a friendly way to go about flying from A to B bringing up a totally negative unnecessary conversation did you feel threatened by this woman knitting next to you ,I suggest not ,did you really think she was going to poke your eye out with a knitting needle ,I think not ,are you a negative person ,I think yes or why would you have created this thread ,it certainly doesn't make you look attractive to others . I don't think either myself or the passenger concerned will be losing too much sleep over the issue . The fact remains that bringing needles on to an aeroplane is a grey area and to a certain extent a discretionary one . I can only re iterate that I have no desire to sit beside a passenger who is constantly pulling a needle up and down ." How is it a grey area? It's allowed. The airline let her board with them. The stewardess confirmed it was okay. Your own internet research confirmed it. Seems pretty black and white to me | |||
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"Just one thing to the OP did you feel any remorse at all for preventing the lady from knitting when she was well within her rights to do so? maybe it was her way of overcoming nervousness during flight? I think the OP is a nervous person. Period. The 'clacking' of the needles probably irritated him. " I think the irritant in this equation was not the needles | |||
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"well you're a bundle of joy aint ya.. " Pmsl and the winning response of the thread is ...... _hortie x | |||
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" but to him they could've sounded like a ticking clock. Like a countdown. Or something. If he's a nervous, wobbly traveller type." Would he solve the conundrum though? Hmmmm. | |||
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" but to him they could've sounded like a ticking clock. Like a countdown. Or something. If he's a nervous, wobbly traveller type. Would he solve the conundrum though? Hmmmm. " | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors Bamboo canes at eye level do present a significant risk sometimes bending forward it's possible to just miss one going in your eye. I would like to know Pat if you've ever knitted? last time I looked knitting needles were plastic too and an angry man could do more damage with his fist think, you've made a bigger deal out of this than was required and probably ruined another person's flight home . I don't think anyones flight was ruined as the issue was discussed on an amicable basis . There were lots of spare seats available and if one of us had felt strongly about the issue , there was always the option to move seats . hardly a friendly way to go about flying from A to B bringing up a totally negative unnecessary conversation did you feel threatened by this woman knitting next to you ,I suggest not ,did you really think she was going to poke your eye out with a knitting needle ,I think not ,are you a negative person ,I think yes or why would you have created this thread ,it certainly doesn't make you look attractive to others . I don't think either myself or the passenger concerned will be losing too much sleep over the issue . The fact remains that bringing needles on to an aeroplane is a grey area and to a certain extent a discretionary one . I can only re iterate that I have no desire to sit beside a passenger who is constantly pulling a needle up and down . How is it a grey area? It's allowed. The airline let her board with them. The stewardess confirmed it was okay. Your own internet research confirmed it. Seems pretty black and white to me" . Different airlines have different policies . Airports also tend to set their own policies . Some internet searches recomend taking a sae with you in case your needles are rejected at security .You can then post then back to yourself in order to avoid losing them.. | |||
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"You do realise that nitting "needles" are needles, in the same way that an onboard plastic "knife" is a knife? Unless she was practising ninja knitting, or your pilot was doing stunts, I doubt they would have posed a significant risk. Untethered luggage is more of a risk. If the FAA deems them (relatively) safe, I doubt you need worry about a plot of (knitted) scarf wearing assassins taking over the aircraft. " Mmm, now there's a thought: ninja lessons and knitting lessons here I come!!! Make sure you are not on my next flight | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle sorry but that's pretty sad a knitting needle they have knives and forks on planes and plenty of other far more lethal objects ,knitting is calming for some and presents no risk to others . However knives and forks on planes are plastic and it is difficult to see how they could present any real threat . Someone with a knitting needle is constantly moving it up and down and possibly for the entire flight . Despite all the comments on this forum I definitely do not want to be sitting next to someone who is constantly moving a knitting needle .In my gardens I always covered pointed objects such as bamboo canes with safety protectors Bamboo canes at eye level do present a significant risk sometimes bending forward it's possible to just miss one going in your eye. I would like to know Pat if you've ever knitted? last time I looked knitting needles were plastic too and an angry man could do more damage with his fist think, you've made a bigger deal out of this than was required and probably ruined another person's flight home . I don't think anyones flight was ruined as the issue was discussed on an amicable basis . There were lots of spare seats available and if one of us had felt strongly about the issue , there was always the option to move seats . hardly a friendly way to go about flying from A to B bringing up a totally negative unnecessary conversation did you feel threatened by this woman knitting next to you ,I suggest not ,did you really think she was going to poke your eye out with a knitting needle ,I think not ,are you a negative person ,I think yes or why would you have created this thread ,it certainly doesn't make you look attractive to others . I don't think either myself or the passenger concerned will be losing too much sleep over the issue . The fact remains that bringing needles on to an aeroplane is a grey area and to a certain extent a discretionary one . I can only re iterate that I have no desire to sit beside a passenger who is constantly pulling a needle up and down . How is it a grey area? It's allowed. The airline let her board with them. The stewardess confirmed it was okay. Your own internet research confirmed it. Seems pretty black and white to me. Different airlines have different policies . Airports also tend to set their own policies . Some internet searches recomend taking a sae with you in case your needles are rejected at security .You can then post then back to yourself in order to avoid losing them.." Perhaps in future check your carriers policies before deciding whether or not to avail of their services? That scenario will help other people who wish to travel without unnecessary interferences. | |||
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"You wanted her to stop? Wow! Even more wow is that you posted this and probably expected people to agree you were right in asking. I did not necessary expect people to agree by was shocked that they were allowed on a plane . In the past I had a drill bit which is far less sharp removed from my hand luggage ." They relaxed the rules a few years ago. After Sept 11th they were not allowed. Now most airlines will let you take them. I also take little embroidery scissors on planes. I'm sure they could be used to murder the pilot. However I'm also sure that I wouldn't be able to get past the *new* security measures they have put in place at the entrance to the cockpit (which led to the relaxing of the rules). | |||
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"Just one thing to the OP did you feel any remorse at all for preventing the lady from knitting when she was well within her rights to do so? maybe it was her way of overcoming nervousness during flight?. It was an amicable discussion between all parties , namely the air stewardess , myself and the passenger . If any of us had felt that strongly about the issue , one of us could have moved seats . The lady concerned was more than capable of looking after herself and I do not think was the type of person that could be bullied . " so why if there were spare seats did you not move to one and allow her to continue knitting..? | |||
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"I was surprised to learn that you are allowed to use small knitting needles on an aeroplane . On a recent flight the passenger beside me was knitting and as I do not consider it safe to use needles on a plane ,I asked her to stop. Initially she refused and the air hostess also said that it was permissible to use needles to knit on a plane . The lady did not knit for the rest of the flight after I asked her to stop. I did some further research on the internet and it is apparent that you are allowed to use knitting needles on planes . It seems ridiculous that people are allowed to use needles during a flight . I don't want my eye poked out by someone's needle " how close were you to believe you would poke your eye out | |||
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"You wanted her to stop? Wow! Even more wow is that you posted this and probably expected people to agree you were right in asking. I did not necessary expect people to agree by was shocked that they were allowed on a plane . In the past I had a drill bit which is far less sharp removed from my hand luggage . They relaxed the rules a few years ago. After Sept 11th they were not allowed. Now most airlines will let you take them. I also take little embroidery scissors on planes. I'm sure they could be used to murder the pilot. However I'm also sure that I wouldn't be able to get past the *new* security measures they have put in place at the entrance to the cockpit (which led to the relaxing of the rules)." I crochet so hopefully they wont ban crochet hooks, they're not sharpe at all | |||
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"So did you apologise to the lady after you where told you where wrong and the lady was perfectly within her right to knit, or did you move to one of the many spare seats on the plane, thus removing yourself from this very dangerous situation you found yourself in." The plot thickens | |||
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" They relaxed the rules a few years ago. After Sept 11th they were not allowed. Now most airlines will let you take them. " I suspect they do a bit of subtle "profiling" beforehand. For example, one look at any of the jumpers I was forced to wear as a child should lead to my mum's needles being classed as offensive weapons. And I'm sure Abu Hamza wasn't allowed his hook, regardless of how good he was at crochet (and I bet he was awesome) I did find this on YouTube, regarding the dangers of knitting... https://youtu.be/M6ZjMWLqJvM The question is, was it wrong that I got mildly excited when I thought the lady would be forced to unpick her woollen dress in order to obtain more wool?... Mr ddc | |||
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" They relaxed the rules a few years ago. After Sept 11th they were not allowed. Now most airlines will let you take them. I suspect they do a bit of subtle "profiling" beforehand. For example, one look at any of the jumpers I was forced to wear as a child should lead to my mum's needles being classed as offensive weapons. And I'm sure Abu Hamza wasn't allowed his hook, regardless of how good he was at crochet (and I bet he was awesome) I did find this on YouTube, regarding the dangers of knitting... https://youtu.be/M6ZjMWLqJvM The question is, was it wrong that I got mildly excited when I thought the lady would be forced to unpick her woollen dress in order to obtain more wool?... Mr ddc" click clack click clack that's the sound of guess who's back | |||
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" 12) Sitting next to me on a flight. L" I'm sure that the conversation would be riveting. Oh shit, I mentioned rivets, I'm sensing a number 13 | |||
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"Reasons To Be Fearfull 1 to 12 Next time you fly rather than knitting needles worry about the following: 1) Being struck by fragments of turbine blade from an uncontained engine failure. 2) The battery of the laptop being used next to you catching fire. 3) The d*unken passenger rampaging down the aisle. 4) The airline line maintenance provider using spares of uncertain or faked origin. 5) Bird Strike 6) Tired flight deck crew. 7) Inadequate monitoring of crew mental health. 8) Air traffic controller working too much overtime on accout of industrial action in France. 9) An errant decimal point in the stress calculations validating a repair. 10) Another successfull hacking of an airliner's flight control or navigation systems. 11) Lax airport security 12) Sitting next to me on a flight. L" 13) maintenance shift supervisor doing the work himself and then also doing the second party inslection. This resulted once in the only ever full 4 engine failure on a 4 engine plane and on an othwr occasion the cockpit window blowing out and taking the copilot with it | |||
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"Surely snapped bones, or even filed down to blade like shapes, would be far worse than a knitting needle. Always lots of bones on board, albeit embodied." or boners | |||
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"Filmed on a recent flight with the OP https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSALQn0u9z4" | |||
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"My mate and i had a few "raised eye brows" during a recent game of "mile high darts". But everyone had chilled out by the time we started the snooker competition." Which is why I stick to practising my knife-throwing act... | |||
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" I once had a miniture pair of tweezers taken from me!" Please tell me you retorted "No tweezers? Have you no idea how hard it is to wire a detonator with my fat fingers?" | |||
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"That's it people! Healthy and safety police! Ban all pointy things!!! No pens,pencils, bony elbows, long fingernails, big hardons. Errrrm. ..oh forks,they have pointy bits! Oh and knobbly knees, they are definitely a stab risk!! . All the items to which you refer are less of a risk as they are rounded to a certain extent and you would have to make a serious effort to do any damage . Knitting needles are by definition sharp objects and anyone using a needle will be constantly moving it up and down.. Despite the various comments made I still think it is totally unacceptable to use needles on a flight when there could be sharp movement or turbulence . No harm in being safety conscious " You could do a lot more damage with a 9H pencil than you could ever do with a knitting needle. | |||
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"A man was sitting on a London train eating a bag of fresh prawns, ripping off the heads and shells and then throwing them out of the window. After he had gobbled a few of them down an older woman opposite him said, "Would you mind not doing that? It's disgusting to watch.". "Listen love." He replied, "It's got nothing to do with you, I've paid my fare for this journey and I'll do what I damn well want on this train." He carried on ripping off the shells, throwing them out of the window and eating the prawns. Finally he finished the bag and settled back for a little sleep. The woman then started some knitting and all the man could hear while he was trying to sleep was the incessant clicking of her knitting needles. After a while, he sits back up and says to the woman, "Could you stop that noise, can't you see I'm trying to sleep?" "It's got nothing to do with you," replies the old woman, "I've paid my fare and I'll do what I want on this train." At that, the man grabbed the woman's knitting and threw it out of the window. The woman immediately stood up and pulled the train alarm cord. The man burst out laughing and said, "Ha ha, you'll get fined 200 pounds for that!" To which the old woman replied, "And you'll get six years when the police smell your fingers...." . PS Please don't open the window and throw her knitting out OP, not when on a plane..." | |||
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