FabSwingers.com forum: Tonight's Sportsperson of the Year

By *drianuk OP Man
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Who should win? Any views?

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Who's been nominated?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think either Jamie Vardy or Tai Woffendom (no idea how to spell his surname) should win but neither are in the list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think either Jamie Vardy or Tai Woffendom (no idea how to spell his surname) should win but neither are in the list

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woofy?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chris froome of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think either Jamie Vardy or Tai Woffendom (no idea how to spell his surname) should win but neither are in the list

woofy?????

Thats him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's actually a good list this year, all worthy in their own ways, but as its a public vote I expect the more high profile sports will win so either Andy Murray or Lewis Hamilton.

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By *drianuk OP Man
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

I'm rooting for Tyson Fury.

I don't agree with his views but I dislike the way that others have tried to bully him out of the arena.

He is religious and entitled to his views whether we like them or not.

A win for him would be a poke in the eye for all the people who say 'you can't say that'.

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over a year ago

"I'm rooting for Tyson Fury.

I don't agree with his views but I dislike the way that others have tried to bully him out of the arena.

He is religious and entitled to his views whether we like them or not.

A win for him would be a poke in the eye for all the people who say 'you can't say that'."

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over a year ago

"I'm rooting for Tyson Fury.

I don't agree with his views but I dislike the way that others have tried to bully him out of the arena.

He is religious and entitled to his views whether we like them or not.

A win for him would be a poke in the eye for all the people who say 'you can't say that'."

Tyson for me as well.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Tyson all the way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tyson all the way"

He gets my vote just for his batman press conference

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over a year ago

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/34845334

I think they're all worthy of it but the Fury bloke sounds like a bit of an arrogant sod in that link never mind his other recently aired views.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm rooting for Tyson Fury.

I don't agree with his views but I dislike the way that others have tried to bully him out of the arena.

He is religious and entitled to his views whether we like them or not.

A win for him would be a poke in the eye for all the people who say 'you can't say that'."

But in many cases, as a role model and a personality, he shouldn't be able to say the things he does - at least not in public.

I'm not PC by a long way, but his comments are not helpful and not used for good.

The titles he holds come with responsibilities beyond winning and making money.

He needs to respect them.

'Clean up' his act and I'd consider him worthy of this title.

Until then, forget it. For me at least.

He may still win though. There are plenty who agree with him and there are plenty who don't see how damaging his position can be.

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By *drianuk OP Man
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"I'm rooting for Tyson Fury.

I don't agree with his views but I dislike the way that others have tried to bully him out of the arena.

He is religious and entitled to his views whether we like them or not.

A win for him would be a poke in the eye for all the people who say 'you can't say that'.

But in many cases, as a role model and a personality, he shouldn't be able to say the things he does - at least not in public.

I'm not PC by a long way, but his comments are not helpful and not used for good.

The titles he holds come with responsibilities beyond winning and making money.

He needs to respect them.

'Clean up' his act and I'd consider him worthy of this title.

Until then, forget it. For me at least.

He may still win though. There are plenty who agree with him and there are plenty who don't see how damaging his position can be.

You appear to be saying that only people with views that the politically correct approve of should win the award

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm rooting for Tyson Fury.

I don't agree with his views but I dislike the way that others have tried to bully him out of the arena.

He is religious and entitled to his views whether we like them or not.

A win for him would be a poke in the eye for all the people who say 'you can't say that'.

But in many cases, as a role model and a personality, he shouldn't be able to say the things he does - at least not in public.

I'm not PC by a long way, but his comments are not helpful and not used for good.

The titles he holds come with responsibilities beyond winning and making money.

He needs to respect them.

'Clean up' his act and I'd consider him worthy of this title.

Until then, forget it. For me at least.

He may still win though. There are plenty who agree with him and there are plenty who don't see how damaging his position can be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm rooting for Tyson Fury.

I don't agree with his views but I dislike the way that others have tried to bully him out of the arena.

He is religious and entitled to his views whether we like them or not.

A win for him would be a poke in the eye for all the people who say 'you can't say that'.

But in many cases, as a role model and a personality, he shouldn't be able to say the things he does - at least not in public.

I'm not PC by a long way, but his comments are not helpful and not used for good.

The titles he holds come with responsibilities beyond winning and making money.

He needs to respect them.

'Clean up' his act and I'd consider him worthy of this title.

Until then, forget it. For me at least.

He may still win though. There are plenty who agree with him and there are plenty who don't see how damaging his position can be.

You appear to be saying that only people with views that the politically correct approve of should win the award"

Not at all

I am saying that he needs to think about what he is saying.

His position as World Champion comes with responsibilities - one of which, to me, is that he should keep his private opinions just that, private.

His position could be used for good and not to divide or demean.

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By *drianuk OP Man
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Why does he need to keep his views to himself? Who decides which views should be kept silent while others can be openly aired?

You?

"I'm rooting for Tyson Fury.

I don't agree with his views but I dislike the way that others have tried to bully him out of the arena.

He is religious and entitled to his views whether we like them or not.

A win for him would be a poke in the eye for all the people who say 'you can't say that'.

But in many cases, as a role model and a personality, he shouldn't be able to say the things he does - at least not in public.

I'm not PC by a long way, but his comments are not helpful and not used for good.

The titles he holds come with responsibilities beyond winning and making money.

He needs to respect them.

'Clean up' his act and I'd consider him worthy of this title.

Until then, forget it. For me at least.

He may still win though. There are plenty who agree with him and there are plenty who don't see how damaging his position can be.

You appear to be saying that only people with views that the politically correct approve of should win the award

Not at all

I am saying that he needs to think about what he is saying.

His position as World Champion comes with responsibilities - one of which, to me, is that he should keep his private opinions just that, private.

His position could be used for good and not to divide or demean.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I'd agree with BUSSY... I'm not really one for the PC stuff but when you're in the public eye and a role model for kids there's a certain amount of responsibility that comes with it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, it's just that not everyone needs to hear them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why does he need to keep his views to himself? Who decides which views should be kept silent while others can be openly aired?

You?

I'm rooting for Tyson Fury.

I don't agree with his views but I dislike the way that others have tried to bully him out of the arena.

He is religious and entitled to his views whether we like them or not.

A win for him would be a poke in the eye for all the people who say 'you can't say that'.

But in many cases, as a role model and a personality, he shouldn't be able to say the things he does - at least not in public.

I'm not PC by a long way, but his comments are not helpful and not used for good.

The titles he holds come with responsibilities beyond winning and making money.

He needs to respect them.

'Clean up' his act and I'd consider him worthy of this title.

Until then, forget it. For me at least.

He may still win though. There are plenty who agree with him and there are plenty who don't see how damaging his position can be.

You appear to be saying that only people with views that the politically correct approve of should win the award

Not at all

I am saying that he needs to think about what he is saying.

His position as World Champion comes with responsibilities - one of which, to me, is that he should keep his private opinions just that, private.

His position could be used for good and not to divide or demean.

This thread is about Sports Personality of the year, not about Tyson Fury. Let's leave it that way.

I have expressed my opinions as to why there are more worthy candidates. You seem to disagree.

This discussion can only go one way. Downhill. Sorry but it isn't worthy of my time or effort.

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By *drianuk OP Man
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Tyson Fury has a religious background. You appear to be saying that traditional views should be silenced.

Muhammed Ali won it despite saying that all Jews should be killed. There was no outcry.

So why should a traditional Christian be considered 'unacceptable'?

"I'd agree with BUSSY... I'm not really one for the PC stuff but when you're in the public eye and a role model for kids there's a certain amount of responsibility that comes with it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, it's just that not everyone needs to hear them. "

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I like Jessica Ennis... I think she was amazing in her comeback after having her baby. She's an all round good egg from what I've seen of her too.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Tyson Fury has a religious background. You appear to be saying that traditional views should be silenced.

Muhammed Ali won it despite saying that all Jews should be killed. There was no outcry.

So why should a traditional Christian be considered 'unacceptable'?

I'd agree with BUSSY... I'm not really one for the PC stuff but when you're in the public eye and a role model for kids there's a certain amount of responsibility that comes with it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, it's just that not everyone needs to hear them. "

I'm not interested in his religion and you do appear to want to make this into something it's not.

Sports people are sports people. Sports personality of the year is presumably based on their sporting achievements and not their personal opinions so I'm sure it'll be a fair vote in that respect.

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By *drianuk OP Man
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

I definitely am not trying to make it into a matter of religion. It is other people who are doing that by trying to bully him off the shortlist

"Tyson Fury has a religious background. You appear to be saying that traditional views should be silenced.

Muhammed Ali won it despite saying that all Jews should be killed. There was no outcry.

So why should a traditional Christian be considered 'unacceptable'?

I'd agree with BUSSY... I'm not really one for the PC stuff but when you're in the public eye and a role model for kids there's a certain amount of responsibility that comes with it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, it's just that not everyone needs to hear them.

I'm not interested in his religion and you do appear to want to make this into something it's not.

Sports people are sports people. Sports personality of the year is presumably based on their sporting achievements and not their personal opinions so I'm sure it'll be a fair vote in that respect.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I like Tyson. He has no media training. Fed up with cardboard cutout winners. Let's listen to Lewis thank his sponsors again... Yawn.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

"I like Jessica Ennis... I think she was amazing in her comeback after having her baby. She's an all round good egg from what I've seen of her too.

I can't decide between her, Adam Peaty the swimmer (lives local!!) or Andy Murray

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I definitely am not trying to make it into a matter of religion. It is other people who are doing that by trying to bully him off the shortlist"

I wasn't aware that anyone was but I steer clear of the rags in general.

I'm sure the winner will be worthy regardless of religion or opinions.

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By *drianuk OP Man
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

There has been an organised campaign to get him banned - although I accept that you were not part of it.

Freedom of speech is vital. As soon as we accept that people can silence others well...we are all vulnerable.

It happens a lot. Tyson Fury is just the latest person to be targeted. He has his rights, whether we agree with his views or not.

"I definitely am not trying to make it into a matter of religion. It is other people who are doing that by trying to bully him off the shortlist

I wasn't aware that anyone was but I steer clear of the rags in general.

I'm sure the winner will be worthy regardless of religion or opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fury or Hamilton for me

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

Although this gymnast has caught my eye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tyson all the way"
think he would be good in the forums

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Okay so now I'm weeping at little Bailey Matthews!!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

ok, who else just got a bit teary eyed when Bailey Matthews got a standing ovation??

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

for me it should be mo farah.....

but i think jess ennis wins

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Andy Murray 1st

Jessica Ellis 2nd

Tyson fury 3rd..

About as exciting as bla bla

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

If Fury wins, the Beeb will be embarrassed. ...personally it's a bit of a farce excluding the number one batsman in the world. .Joe Root.

I won't bother with it this year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who should win? Any views?"
Andy Murray should and did

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who should win? Any views? Andy Murray should and did

Didn't get my vote, then again none of them did! I abstained as a totally useless protest at Joe Root not making the list.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I am both surprised and disappointed that Jess Ennis-Hill only got 3rd. She's done awesomely well this year. But hey, as others have said, there were some amazingly deserving sports men and women who should have been on that list and weren't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

should of been kevin sinfield. true star and leeds rhinos should have got team of the year after getting treble

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Furey should have won that hands down!

But the not so 'on to it' agreed with Murray whom won with a team (which already won the team award) but won

nothing in his own very individualistic sport!

Yet Furey took the World title off one of the WORLD dominating brothers of heavyweight boxing of the last decade & more!

A typical SOFTIE vote, - did Murray perform a cameo slot in a soap opera I wonder?

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By *ibbyhunterCouple
over a year ago

keighley

In the past Henry Cooper won it twice (never world champ).our last heavyweight champ Lennox Lewis won it ,yet Tyson Fury didn't make the top three.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

so did all the moaners actually vote for their preferred choice?

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

It's a public vote is it not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Furey should have won that hands down!

But the not so 'on to it' agreed with Murray whom won with a team (which already won the team award) but won

nothing in his own very individualistic sport!

Yet Furey took the World title off one of the WORLD dominating brothers of heavyweight boxing of the last decade & more!

A typical SOFTIE vote, - did Murray perform a cameo slot in a soap opera I wonder? "

Andy Murray actually won the tournament before Wimbledon Queens I think it is so he actually did win something. Fury would've lost votes on the fact he couldn't keep his mouth shut. Not exactly the best role model or ambassador for his sport unlike Murray.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so did all the moaners actually vote for their preferred choice?"

I couldn't because it has no cricket rights, and in its wisdom the BBC decided that the world's number one batsmen who played a major part in winning the Ashes and who also has personality in buckets wasn't worthy of being on the shortlist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so did all the moaners actually vote for their preferred choice?

Meant to be a

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so did all the moaners actually vote for their preferred choice?"
ask them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the past Henry Cooper won it twice (never world champ).our last heavyweight champ Lennox Lewis won it ,yet Tyson Fury didn't make the top three. "

Henry who?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Furey should have won that hands down!

But the not so 'on to it' agreed with Murray whom won with a team (which already won the team award) but won

nothing in his own very individualistic sport!

Yet Furey took the World title off one of the WORLD dominating brothers of heavyweight boxing of the last decade & more!

A typical SOFTIE vote, - did Murray perform a cameo slot in a soap opera I wonder?

Queens? Ffs that's just a warm up tournament! ....... Arsenal win the Community Shield but didn't even make the shortlist of the Team Of The Year award!!

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

It's not just about sporting prowess, though that is a pre-requisite. It's alos about being an ambassador and role model.

Fury should not even have been on the list.

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By *drianuk OP Man
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

I voted for Fury just to stick one in the eye of all those who tried to bully him off the shortlist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I voted for Mo and think the fact he's the best in the world over 2 distances makes him more ideal than Murray who isn't even the best in his sport nevermind not winning a grand slam this year and also losing every time he faced the world number 3 too.

I just don't understand who voted for him and their reasons can someone enlighten me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I voted for Mo and think the fact he's the best in the world over 2 distances makes him more ideal than Murray who isn't even the best in his sport nevermind not winning a grand slam this year and also losing every time he faced the world number 3 too.

I just don't understand who voted for him and their reasons can someone enlighten me"

Most voters are white middle class middle Englanders. Go figure! Mo is one of the finest athletes to represent this country and his achievements are up their with the likes of Coe and Ovett. But maybe his face just doesn't fit??

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Andy Ping Pong bottom of the barrel.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

You can disagree without being personal. If not then stop talking.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

I just don't understand who voted for him and their reasons can someone enlighten me"

Murray deservedly won sports personality of the year in the year he won Wimbledon. I don't think he's done enough to get the title again but it's a public vote so it is what it is. I'd have like to see Greg Rutherford win it, some achievement holding all the titles and now in the same group as Linford Christie, Jonathan Edwards and Daily Thompson. Tyson Fury is a knob but I'm glad they kept him in the shortlist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not just about sporting prowess, though that is a pre-requisite. It's alos about being an ambassador and role model.

Fury should not even have been on the list."

how could a boxer be on the role model list?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Andy Murray wins Sports 'Personality' of the Year.

Who's got Trading Standards contact number?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just don't understand who voted for him and their reasons can someone enlighten me

You forgot Sally gunnell in your list. I wanted Greg to win too. Came from nowhere really to win in London 2012. That's who I voted for.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

I just don't understand who voted for him and their reasons can someone enlighten me

You forgot Sally gunnell in your list. I wanted Greg to win too. Came from nowhere really to win in London 2012. That's who I voted for. "

Yes Sally Gunnell too, I voted for Greg.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just don't understand who voted for him and their reasons can someone enlighten me

You forgot Sally gunnell in your list. I wanted Greg to win too. Came from nowhere really to win in London 2012. That's who I voted for. "

I would of been happy with any of the 3 athletics World Champs or Froome don't know enough about a lot of the others apart from Fury

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I voted for Mo

he has now done the long distance "double" (5 and 10k) in the last 3 global championships (2012 olympics, 2013 worlds and 2015 worlds) and he never been in the top 3 voting in any of those years.....

you wonder what else he now needs to do....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I voted for Mo

he has now done the long distance "double" (5 and 10k) in the last 3 global championships (2012 olympics, 2013 worlds and 2015 worlds) and he never been in the top 3 voting in any of those years.....

you wonder what else he now needs to do...."

yeah I voted for him too, especially with all the negative press that rattled him pre championships too. I feel it'll take another double next year and a world record which I don't think he can achieve as he's a tactician and sprint finisher not an endurance at high pace runner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Andy Murray wins Sports 'Personality' of the Year.

Who's got Trading Standards contact number? "

At least he's won something this year!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I live in the same town as Tyson fury. Yes he comes from a travelling background. All he has done all his life is boxing. Never been in trouble with the law. Maybe a parking ticket. But has done a lot of work for charitys and local hospice. His dream was to become world heavyweight champion. This does not come easy. He has put 25 years hard work in to be the world title holder. He is a bit mental but look at other characters in the sport. Nasseme Muhammad, Eubanks and Benn, Mohammed Ali. The sport needs guys like this to keep it alive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I voted for Mo

he has now done the long distance "double" (5 and 10k) in the last 3 global championships (2012 olympics, 2013 worlds and 2015 worlds) and he never been in the top 3 voting in any of those years.....

you wonder what else he now needs to do...."

just wait, Rio is only 6 months away!

But Furey just broke up what was probably the most boring heavyweight boxing dynasty in history!!

He'd have the world boxing vote for sure!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just don't understand who voted for him and their reasons can someone enlighten me

That's some accusation of racism!

Daley Thompson won it.

Lewis Hamilton

Fatima Whitbread

Ryan giggs

Linford Christie

Lennox Lewis....

There's been dozens of different ethnic winners.

I think it's more likely that people have lost any hope that athletics is anything but clean!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got to be biggest joke ever - Andy Murray winning a personality of the year competition ? He has as much personality as a cardboard cut-out - BBC fix - again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just don't understand who voted for him and their reasons can someone enlighten me

Coe, Ovett or Cram aren't fit to lick Mo's testicles, - what are you waffling on about? ....... & one of them is just another crooked politician ffs!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

That's some accusation of racism!

Daley Thompson won it.

Lewis Hamilton

Fatima Whitbread

Ryan giggs

Linford Christie

Lennox Lewis....

There's been dozens of different ethnic winners.

I think it's more likely that people have lost any hope that athletics is anything but clean!

I don't think you can count fatima or giggsy as being on "our" team..... I think fatima's was more a dodgy suntan....

is giggsy claiming to be a member of the "brotherhood"....

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

That's some accusation of racism!

Daley Thompson won it.

Lewis Hamilton

Fatima Whitbread

Ryan giggs

Linford Christie

Lennox Lewis....

There's been dozens of different ethnic winners.

I think it's more likely that people have lost any hope that athletics is anything but clean!

I don't think you can count fatima or giggsy as being on "our" team..... I think fatima's was more a dodgy suntan....

is giggsy claiming to be a member of the "brotherhood"....

Giggsy is from Salford and his dad played rugby league there.

Which brinks me on to who I voted for...Nice to see the better code of rugby getting some press...

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By *hloe sussexTV/TS
over a year ago

Larne

"Who should win? Any views?"

Sepp blaster lol

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Andy Ping Pong makes me vomit.

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By *hloe sussexTV/TS
over a year ago

Larne

"Who should win? Any views?

Sepp blaster lol"

Sepp blatter grrrr I hate spell check lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's some accusation of racism!

Daley Thompson won it.

Lewis Hamilton

Fatima Whitbread

Ryan giggs

Linford Christie

Lennox Lewis....

There's been dozens of different ethnic winners.

I think it's more likely that people have lost any hope that athletics is anything but clean!

I don't think you can count fatima or giggsy as being on "our" team..... I think fatima's was more a dodgy suntan....

is giggsy claiming to be a member of the "brotherhood"....

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Fatima is Turkish or Cypriot if I remember correctly and giggs dad is black!.

I think Fatima would be defo on my list for the crocodile Dundee test though!.

In all seriousness though since Armstrong and the whole athletics doping scandal/seb coe debacle...

I've just got that doubt now, there all cheating!

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