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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So, what does it mean to you?

Is seeing believing?

Or do things cease to exist because of lack of belief?

I ask because of the abundance of christmas movies that have both aspects in and use belief as an underlying message

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

.... yes?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I only believe the little person who lives in my hair and whispers in my ear. I can't see her though.

Seriously, I believe some things through blind faith, others through experience, still others because there appears to be evidence.

On the last, for example, I believe that Time Peake is on the International Space Station and not in a metal box in Russia somewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But I don't think you have to see things in order to believe in them. I've never SEEN a ghost but I've heard them. I have faith that God exists and obviously I've never seen him.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

I believe in general relativity and quantum mechanics. The rest I accept as the chaotic immensly biased mish mash arising from my subconcious and confidently assert that almost everything else is bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Every night I ask the guy in front of me brushing my teeth what to make of everything that happened that day....he's a good lad..normally knows his shit!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"So, what does it mean to you?

Is seeing believing?

Or do things cease to exist because of lack of belief?

I ask because of the abundance of christmas movies that have both aspects in and use belief as an underlying message"

I think people see what they want to believe.

If everyone stopped believing in Father Christmas he would cease to exist because he is a legendary character. If everyone stopped believing in the queen she would still exist because she's real (as far as I know).

So I think that people invent things to believe in that suit them and offer comfort and the spirit of Christmas is one of them.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"So, what does it mean to you?

Is seeing believing?

Or do things cease to exist because of lack of belief?

I ask because of the abundance of christmas movies that have both aspects in and use belief as an underlying message

I think people see what they want to believe.

So I think that people invent things to believe in that suit them and offer comfort and the spirit of Christmas is one of them."

Father Christmas exists.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So, what does it mean to you?

Is seeing believing?

Or do things cease to exist because of lack of belief?

I ask because of the abundance of christmas movies that have both aspects in and use belief as an underlying message

I think people see what they want to believe.

So I think that people invent things to believe in that suit them and offer comfort and the spirit of Christmas is one of them."

I like this answer. I believe in imoogi, the river Styx, the Titans, but with regards to myself, Santa is a myth, but to people whom believe, he's real. However, I don't want anything, so it suits my purpose not to believe

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"So, what does it mean to you?

Is seeing believing?

Or do things cease to exist because of lack of belief?

I ask because of the abundance of christmas movies that have both aspects in and use belief as an underlying message

I think people see what they want to believe.

So I think that people invent things to believe in that suit them and offer comfort and the spirit of Christmas is one of them.

Father Christmas exists.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i believe in God

ghosts etc

and yes i kinda believe in Santa to

i dnt think that you have to see things to believe them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, what does it mean to you?

Is seeing believing?

Or do things cease to exist because of lack of belief?

I ask because of the abundance of christmas movies that have both aspects in and use belief as an underlying message

I think people see what they want to believe.

So I think that people invent things to believe in that suit them and offer comfort and the spirit of Christmas is one of them.

Father Christmas exists.

Thank goodness...i need new socks..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

And every time you hear a bell an Angel gets its wings.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"So, what does it mean to you?

Is seeing believing?

Or do things cease to exist because of lack of belief?

I ask because of the abundance of christmas movies that have both aspects in and use belief as an underlying message

I think people see what they want to believe.

So I think that people invent things to believe in that suit them and offer comfort and the spirit of Christmas is one of them.

Yep! I'm doing my best to believe in a cool million quid at the moment

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

As a wise man once said:

"Don't believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see."

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

"As a wise man once said:

"Don't believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see."

Emergency Exit woz hiz undoin.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"As a wise man once said:

"Don't believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see."

Emergency Exit woz hiz undoin.

No, heroin and alcohol - it was Lou Reed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene."

I personally think God does exist but is elsewhere working on a far less ambitious project

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene."

Isn't that the whole point of the the period of grace that we're in? Sort of "make your own mind up".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Belief means to me I have no proof to support what I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene."

Can you give me the name of one such physicist?

Cause I'd live to see the reasoning behind it given there is no possible logic to that statement

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene.

Isn't that the whole point of the the period of grace that we're in? Sort of "make your own mind up"."

Well you got plenty of time - till the heat death of the universe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene.

Isn't that the whole point of the the period of grace that we're in? Sort of "make your own mind up"."

Not if you belive the majority of religions no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Belief means to me I have no proof to support what I think"
but imagine if you went through life treating everything with the same degree of faith at some point you must see it to believe it

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Belief means to me I have no proof to support what I think"

As Christopher Hitchens said:

"That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

End of.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'll believe in my perception as a representation of the world outside, manipulated by my biases. But not as fact.

I like to take the scientific approach to what is somewhat unknown by us. I may get theories and beliefs about things but am frequently wrong.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

"Belief means to me I have no proof to support what I think

As Christopher Hitchens said:

"That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

You were right yesterday. I looked up Christopher Hitchens and when they answered the door they said he was dead.

End of."

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Belief means to me I have no proof to support what I think

As Christopher Hitchens said:

"That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

You were right yesterday. I looked up Christopher Hitchens and when they answered the door they said he was dead.

End of."

Touché

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Belief means to me I have no proof to support what I thinkbut imagine if you went through life treating everything with the same degree of faith at some point you must see it to believe it

No if I have no proof but I think it's right it's a belief

If I have proof it's right it's simply knowledge.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Where's old Mpassion when you need him?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Belief means to me I have no proof to support what I thinkbut imagine if you went through life treating everything with the same degree of faith at some point you must see it to believe it

Oh wait you have taken my statement to mean I see all things without proof as belief?

Well there are many things I don't have proof of but don't think are correct they are belief too.

These same things make be knowledge to someone else though.

For instance I know what I think but my idea about what someone else is thinking is only ever a belief as I will never have proof of what they are thinking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Belief means to me I have no proof to support what I think

As Christopher Hitchens said:

"That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

End of."
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One of the great intellectuals of the 20th century!

Sorely missed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene.

Isn't that the whole point of the the period of grace that we're in? Sort of "make your own mind up".

Not if you belive the majority of religions no."

What do you believe the grace of God to be then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene.

Isn't that the whole point of the the period of grace that we're in? Sort of "make your own mind up".

Not if you belive the majority of religions no.

What do you believe the grace of God to be then?"
Devine intervention

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene.

Isn't that the whole point of the the period of grace that we're in? Sort of "make your own mind up".

Not if you belive the majority of religions no.

What do you believe the grace of God to be then?"
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A prostitute in Namibia inflicting hiv onto teenagers for 1 dollar!

Or maybe it's two year olds inflicted with lukemia!

I like to think it's maybe the 86 year old paedophile camp guard from Auschwitz!

The trouble with beliefs is there nearly always proved to be bollocks and while they weren't unproven, it gave people free will to act like cunts and say things cuntish!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey it's my belief and I feel very very strongly about it!

So fucking what!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your a cunt with cuntish beliefs...

Get over it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene.

Isn't that the whole point of the the period of grace that we're in? Sort of "make your own mind up".

Not if you belive the majority of religions no.

What do you believe the grace of God to be then? Devine intervention

I think It's the opposite of that.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

"Belief means to me I have no proof to support what I think

As Christopher Hitchens said:

"That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

End of..

One of the great intellectuals of the 20th century!

Sorely missed

You ain't alone in thinking that. The Vatican got him to put the case AGAINST Mother Teresa's being made a saint.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Belief means to me I have no proof to support what I think

As Christopher Hitchens said:

"That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

End of..

One of the great intellectuals of the 20th century!

Sorely missed

You ain't alone in thinking that. The Vatican got him to put the case AGAINST Mother Teresa's being made a saint."
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Well they just confirmed her second miracle for saint hood so I'm guessing his words must have fallen on deaf ears!

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By *carlet_heavenWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene."

Or its him putting those electrons in two places at once and keeping that cat hostage!?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene.

Isn't that the whole point of the the period of grace that we're in? Sort of "make your own mind up".

Not if you belive the majority of religions no.

What do you believe the grace of God to be then? Devine intervention

I think It's the opposite of that."
so practical avoidance then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe in life after death,

I believe in angels

I believe in good and bad spirits, ghosts.. I believe in talking to the dead

I believe there is a god.

I believe we are all giving a life path and it's up to us to make the most of it.

I believe everything happens for a reason it's just up to us how we deal with it,

I believe in myself , I believe in my daughter ,, I believe in the law of attraction ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its more hope than belief portrayed i think.

You could see or experience so much if you take the chance to look beyond right now.

If you open your mind to possinbility, the world is an exciting place again xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing exists we are gods nightmare

Some quantum mechanics say that God having created the universe the way it is he is compelled to stand back and watch without being able to intervene.

Isn't that the whole point of the the period of grace that we're in? Sort of "make your own mind up".

Not if you belive the majority of religions no.

What do you believe the grace of God to be then? Devine intervention

I think It's the opposite of that. so practical avoidance then

Exactly. If God were appearing here there and everywhere miraculously saving people then you wouldn't need faith because you'd just turn the telly on and see what God did today. Only by testing your faith could you say you still had belief in him. Its the old "if you love them, let them go" thing. Save those who come back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The very act of "believing" in something means that it doesn't really exist....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The very act of "believing" in something means that it doesn't really exist....

Lol it's not believing in some thing! It's belief in someone. Belief that shit that happens is for your own good. Like as a child i believed in my parents to do things for my good. I didn't need to believe they existed because i could see them. The question is do you have faith in God existing. And if you do, do you have belief in him...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe in the process of natural evolution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can actually turn into what every woman wants

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe in the process of natural evolution

Ah well, you'd have to explain the duck-billed platypus then. Or why are there still apes....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The very act of "believing" in something means that it doesn't really exist....

That world be like faith in Santa and believing that he's putting presents under my tree while climbing down a chimney I haven't even got!.

The evidence clearly states... It's your parents doing it and sooner or later you grow out the ridiculous belief

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe in the process of natural evolution

Ah well, you'd have to explain the duck-billed platypus then. Or why are there still apes...."
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Where have you been living... In a box.

They've been explained with fossils and other data for about 25 years!

In fact since then we've found hundreds of other fossil records that also confirm the original hypothesis!

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Faith requires no proof"

'Nuff said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People believed the world was flat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where have you been living... In a box.

You never made it into a debating team did you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's paraphrase a little. Jesus said "believe in me". He didn't mean come and touch me to see if I'm real. His followers could already see that he was, he ment "believe i will do the things I've said i will do. Or that will come to pass". Belief in your particular religion. Not believe in your particular religion, if you will.

You don't have to believe in Islam, it's real. But you do have to have belief in Allah that shit that happens happens for a reason.

All this only applies if you have faith. If you don't believe and have faith in a hierarchical God system then none of it applies. However if you're a Buddhist then yes you believe in reincarnation, and the Dalai lama is your evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where have you been living... In a box.

You never made it into a debating team did you.

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Your correct for the stigma of being in the masterbating team, they shunned me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's paraphrase a little. Jesus said "believe in me". He didn't mean come and touch me to see if I'm real. His followers could already see that he was, he ment "believe i will do the things I've said i will do. Or that will come to pass". Belief in your particular religion. Not believe in your particular religion, if you will.

You don't have to believe in Islam, it's real. But you do have to have belief in Allah that shit that happens happens for a reason.

Jesus also said, turn the other cheek and love your enemies!

No wonder he couldn't get a promotion to head carpenter!

More to the point, two actions you hardly see anyone of Christian proclamation do!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't have to believe in Islam, it's real. But you do have to have belief in Allah that shit that happens happens for a reason.

Jesus also said, turn the other cheek and love your enemies!

No wonder he couldn't get a promotion to head carpenter!

More to the point, two actions you hardly see anyone of Christian proclamation do!!"

Well there you have the advantage. I haven't met enough to make such a sweeping assumption.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't have to believe in Islam, it's real. But you do have to have belief in Allah that shit that happens happens for a reason.

Jesus also said, turn the other cheek and love your enemies!

No wonder he couldn't get a promotion to head carpenter!

More to the point, two actions you hardly see anyone of Christian proclamation do!!

Well there you have the advantage. I haven't met enough to make such a sweeping assumption. "
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You swept away rising sea levels of 1.5mm with a declaration of living near Portsmouth and not observing them... Surely this one is easier!....

Here's an experiment for you!

Next time you see a car with the fish on the back, cut them up and give them the finger.... Let me know how the results turn out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't have to believe in Islam, it's real. But you do have to have belief in Allah that shit that happens happens for a reason.

Jesus also said, turn the other cheek and love your enemies!

No wonder he couldn't get a promotion to head carpenter!

More to the point, two actions you hardly see anyone of Christian proclamation do!!

Well there you have the advantage. I haven't met enough to make such a sweeping assumption. .

You swept away rising sea levels of 1.5mm with a declaration of living near Portsmouth and not observing them... Surely this one is easier!....

Here's an experiment for you!

Next time you see a car with the fish on the back, cut them up and give them the finger.... Let me know how the results turn out

I'm afraid that's one you'll have to do for me. As I'm just not that much of a xxxx.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't have to believe in Islam, it's real. But you do have to have belief in Allah that shit that happens happens for a reason.

Jesus also said, turn the other cheek and love your enemies!

No wonder he couldn't get a promotion to head carpenter!

More to the point, two actions you hardly see anyone of Christian proclamation do!!

Well there you have the advantage. I haven't met enough to make such a sweeping assumption. .

You swept away rising sea levels of 1.5mm with a declaration of living near Portsmouth and not observing them... Surely this one is easier!....

Here's an experiment for you!

Next time you see a car with the fish on the back, cut them up and give them the finger.... Let me know how the results turn out

I'm afraid that's one you'll have to do for me. As I'm just not that much of a xxxx.

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That's another belief!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

If I steal your money but you refuse to believe it was me ..... does that mean I didn't do it ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If I steal your money but you refuse to believe it was me ..... does that mean I didn't do it ?"

Maybe, but you have to believe you haven't also

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