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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'm just watching the documentary about Ali and Frazier fight and i'm wondering if anyone agrees with me that we will never see the likes of a heavyweight fight like this ever again.....

if you don't know what i'm on about then google it.

one of the most amazing fights ever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeh just been watching it and fully agree wi u ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yeh just been watching it and fully agree wi u .... "

wowwww

i've just peeked at you profile and i woudn't mind going 12 rounds with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeh just been watching it and fully agree wi u ....

wowwww

i've just peeked at you profile and i woudn't mind going 12 rounds with you"

Lmao what makes u think u could...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yeh just been watching it and fully agree wi u ....

wowwww

i've just peeked at you profile and i woudn't mind going 12 rounds with you

Lmao what makes u think u could... "

jab and move jab and move

god help you if i get you in the corner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeh just been watching it and fully agree wi u ....

wowwww

i've just peeked at you profile and i woudn't mind going 12 rounds with you

Lmao what makes u think u could...

jab and move jab and move

god help you if i get you in the corner

"

lol will goto a round room - no corners...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Amazing and has anyone watched Laila Ali his daughter fight chip of the old block shes hot and she can fight.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

modern day heavyweights,could'nt lace there boots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mmmmm David Hayes yummy Ooh and Joe Calzaghe ooh and enzo macarinelli yes please both from the calzaghe camp.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"modern day heavyweights,could'nt lace there boots."

Tyson in his heyday would have battered Ali AND Frazier. The guy was an unstoppable machine when his mind wasn't messed up. IMO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boxing is not like it was in the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

Everyone knew all them heavy weights, Ali; Frasier, Foreman, Ken Norton, Ernie shavers, they all fought each other, the middle weights , Ray leonard, hagler, Hearns, Duran, it was a golden era that we will never see again, coming to an end with Tyson and Lewis.

Now i would struggle to name 6 boxing champs in any division

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"modern day heavyweights,could'nt lace there boots.

Tyson in his heyday would have battered Ali AND Frazier. The guy was an unstoppable machine when his mind wasn't messed up. IMO."

tyson was good,but he was fighting,

nobodies wishy.ali and frazier,would have been a different kettle of fish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you only have to watch ali v frazier 3 (the thriller in manila) to see how brutal boxing can be.

from the first bell both fighters never stopped throwing hard punches.

gum shields flying out of the ring and frazier quit on his stool near the end.

even ali collapsed after.

fights like that would be stopped because the long term damage such contests cause.

and as for the tyson vs ali theory. tyson would have been dangerous but ali would have got him so angry and off his game plan it would have been another rope a dope with ali throwing out jabs winding tyson up and taking him out later on.

remember foreman was considered the tyson of the time knocking down frazier 7 times in one fight. knocking out ken norton who broke ali's jaw.

foreman was destroying fighters but when it came to the skill and speed of ali who couldnt live with it.

and tyson would suffer the same fate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Boxing is not like it was in the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

Everyone knew all them heavy weights, Ali; Frasier, Foreman, Ken Norton, Ernie shavers, they all fought each other, the middle weights , Ray leonard, hagler, Hearns, Duran, it was a golden era that we will never see again, coming to an end with Tyson and Lewis.

Now i would struggle to name 6 boxing champs in any division

"

Yeah I agree....some great memories watching those fighters you`ve mentioned ....happy days indeed...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Boxing is not like it was in the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

Everyone knew all them heavy weights, Ali; Frasier, Foreman, Ken Norton, Ernie shavers, they all fought each other, the middle weights , Ray leonard, hagler, Hearns, Duran, it was a golden era that we will never see again, coming to an end with Tyson and Lewis.

Now i would struggle to name 6 boxing champs in any division

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Hagler v Hearns was 25 years ago and it is still ingrained in my memory. 8 minutes of pugilism and mayhem that will go down as one of the finest middleweight fights of all time.The first round alone has more action than some heavyweights entire careers. if you've never seen this fight,its on youtube.watch it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Boxing is not like it was in the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

Everyone knew all them heavy weights, Ali; Frasier, Foreman, Ken Norton, Ernie shavers, they all fought each other, the middle weights , Ray leonard, hagler, Hearns, Duran, it was a golden era that we will never see again, coming to an end with Tyson and Lewis.

Now i would struggle to name 6 boxing champs in any division

Hagler v Hearns was 25 years ago and it is still ingrained in my memory. 8 minutes of pugilism and mayhem that will go down as one of the finest middleweight fights of all time.The first round alone has more action than some heavyweights entire careers. if you've never seen this fight,its on youtube.watch it.

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Indeed, still in my memory s`well....two warriors testing each others heart ..

The era of Benn..Eubanks..Watson is also worth a shout as well ....honour and pride at stake in much the same way ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

i think there are still some fighters around today that would have held their own in the 70's.

manny pacquiao for example.

his fight against antonio margarito was great to watch.

it was a classic slugfest for 12 rounds.

unforunatly most of the top boxers today try their best to avoid each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mayweather is as good as there has been and he's still boxing today.

The heavyweight division is another matter, I don't think there'll be another Ali.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

a fight i will always remember is.

sugar ray leonard v marvin hagler.

leonard was lighter,but his speed won the day.both great fighters,at their very best.both hardly missed a punch.

the leonard v duran fights fantastic also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does anyone watch ladies boxing check out laila ali wow. You tube her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BOXING champ Chris Eubank has LOST his famous lisp after spending £31,000 on dental work - but has GAINED a comic whistle. Funniest thing I ever read lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Does anyone watch ladies boxing check out laila ali wow. You tube her"

hmmmmmm she is a very good boxer but its hard to judge as womens boxing is a young sport. there are those that will excel because there isn't the depth of opposition as there is in mens boxing.

that not to take anything away from womens boxing.

i saw a fight a few years ago and it was unbelievable.

they stood toe to toe and traded blows it lasted 5 rounds and the commentators said that each fighter had thrown over 100 punches in every round.

trust me that is some going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does anyone watch ladies boxing check out laila ali wow. You tube her

hmmmmmm she is a very good boxer but its hard to judge as womens boxing is a young sport. there are those that will excel because there isn't the depth of opposition as there is in mens boxing.

that not to take anything away from womens boxing.

i saw a fight a few years ago and it was unbelievable.

they stood toe to toe and traded blows it lasted 5 rounds and the commentators said that each fighter had thrown over 100 punches in every round.

trust me that is some going"

Fair point I love my boxing male and female I go to quite a few exhibition bouts fantastic nights.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Does anyone watch ladies boxing check out laila ali wow. You tube her

hmmmmmm she is a very good boxer but its hard to judge as womens boxing is a young sport. there are those that will excel because there isn't the depth of opposition as there is in mens boxing.

that not to take anything away from womens boxing.

i saw a fight a few years ago and it was unbelievable.

they stood toe to toe and traded blows it lasted 5 rounds and the commentators said that each fighter had thrown over 100 punches in every round.

trust me that is some going

Fair point I love my boxing male and female I go to quite a few exhibition bouts fantastic nights. "

i'm the same........ i love to see someone taking a pounding.

ooh i also enjoy watching the boxing as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has to be Sonny Liston and Ali bouts that caused the most controversy and mystery. Liston had Mafia connections and apparently threw the bouts for gambling purposes and had he not been dogged by this reputation and concentrated more on being a great boxer he could have given Ali more of a run for anyones money ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Has to be Sonny Liston and Ali bouts that caused the most controversy and mystery. Liston had Mafia connections and apparently threw the bouts for gambling purposes and had he not been dogged by this reputation and concentrated more on being a great boxer he could have given Ali more of a run for anyones money ...."

i'm guessing you havn't seen the haye v harrison fight.

at least liston threw more than 1 punch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has to be Sonny Liston and Ali bouts that caused the most controversy and mystery. Liston had Mafia connections and apparently threw the bouts for gambling purposes and had he not been dogged by this reputation and concentrated more on being a great boxer he could have given Ali more of a run for anyones money ....

i'm guessing you havn't seen the haye v harrison fight.

at least liston threw more than 1 punch"

Sorry was just talking Ali and 60's controversy and movies in this ten penneth...

I dont think David Haye and Audly Harrison fought a contest either and it was a lot more obvious - Liston at least fell to the canvas..

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By *ertnbeckyCouple
over a year ago

oldham


"modern day heavyweights,could'nt lace there boots.

Tyson in his heyday would have battered Ali AND Frazier. The guy was an unstoppable machine when his mind wasn't messed up. IMO."
dream on he would have been lucky to land a punch on ali in his prime

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

20 years ago,fights were brutal,punishing,affairs.broken jaws,broken ribs,broken hands,and still fighting on.when those guys,got interviewed,you knew they had been in a fight.

injuries now include,messed hair,broken nails,brused ego.there is no comparison.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the hype and glory associated with the fight has been brought down to sad reality when you look at the physical condition Muhammad Ali is in these days. You have to assume the head shots and constant pounding in that fight and many others are the main cause of Muhammad Ali’s current condition. Boxing is a barbaric sport and I don’t think it should be allowed in a civilised society. Surely we are men of peace or should be with our current technological advances. Boxing along with many other barbaric sports should be assigned to the history bin. There are more important and technically skilled sporting events we should idolise that do not involve beating a mans brains out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think the hype and glory associated with the fight has been brought down to sad reality when you look at the physical condition Muhammad Ali is in these days. You have to assume the head shots and constant pounding in that fight and many others are the main cause of Muhammad Ali’s current condition. Boxing is a barbaric sport and I don’t think it should be allowed in a civilised society. Surely we are men of peace or should be with our current technological advances. Boxing along with many other barbaric sports should be assigned to the history bin. There are more important and technically skilled sporting events we should idolise that do not involve beating a mans brains out."

i beg to differ.

as with anything, if both parties are consensual, prepared to accept the risks involved then and harm no one else then why ban it ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boxing has gone down the pan no doubt.

However the saddest thing for me is the state it has left the protagonists in.

Ali obviously everyone knows about but also the 35 years of bitterness that Frazier seemed to harbour.

Particularly some of the comments which seemed to suggest he was ok whereas look at the state of Ali were very sad.

A heroic battle with 2 brave guys but I am glad they aren't so much like that these days.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the hype and glory associated with the fight has been brought down to sad reality when you look at the physical condition Muhammad Ali is in these days. You have to assume the head shots and constant pounding in that fight and many others are the main cause of Muhammad Ali’s current condition. Boxing is a barbaric sport and I don’t think it should be allowed in a civilised society. Surely we are men of peace or should be with our current technological advances. Boxing along with many other barbaric sports should be assigned to the history bin. There are more important and technically skilled sporting events we should idolise that do not involve beating a mans brains out.

i beg to differ.

as with anything, if both parties are consensual, prepared to accept the risks involved then and harm no one else then why ban it ??

"

The point of legal boxing is not brutality, its an honourable sport but it is safe to say there will be brutal punches thrown. The last thing a referee says before the first bell is 'Gentlemen defend yourself at all times' and a lot of the skills are cunning defence as taught in amateur boxing where the points system is pretty valuable and knock outs rare due to headgear being worn.

Ali has Parkinsons which he says is not as a result of his boxing. It is indeed just a cruel debilitating co-incidence sadly affecting the speech and co-ordination of a poetic and articulate man. The exact cause of Parkinsons is still being studied and not really known.

Boxing has less injuries than you would imagine and other sports have many more fatalities and serious accidents resulting in injury than boxing. Motor sports being one of them. Heading a football doesn't do the brain any favours either...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the hype and glory associated with the fight has been brought down to sad reality when you look at the physical condition Muhammad Ali is in these days. You have to assume the head shots and constant pounding in that fight and many others are the main cause of Muhammad Ali’s current condition. Boxing is a barbaric sport and I don’t think it should be allowed in a civilised society. Surely we are men of peace or should be with our current technological advances. Boxing along with many other barbaric sports should be assigned to the history bin. There are more important and technically skilled sporting events we should idolise that do not involve beating a mans brains out."

They dont just jump into the ring theres years of training thats involved they are true sportsmen and women. Consenting adults yes and there are now numerour rules and regulations in place. Most sport comes with risks there are much more injuries on a rugby pitch than in a ring

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think the hype and glory associated with the fight has been brought down to sad reality when you look at the physical condition Muhammad Ali is in these days. You have to assume the head shots and constant pounding in that fight and many others are the main cause of Muhammad Ali’s current condition. Boxing is a barbaric sport and I don’t think it should be allowed in a civilised society. Surely we are men of peace or should be with our current technological advances. Boxing along with many other barbaric sports should be assigned to the history bin. There are more important and technically skilled sporting events we should idolise that do not involve beating a mans brains out.

They dont just jump into the ring theres years of training thats involved they are true sportsmen and women. Consenting adults yes and there are now numerour rules and regulations in place. Most sport comes with risks there are much more injuries on a rugby pitch than in a ring"

here here......

well said sexy lady over there.

fancy a few rounds of friendly sparring

i cant promise not to hit you below the belt though

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