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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"?

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By *rMrs-Luv-ItCouple
over a year ago

cwmbranish


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

Not at all this is the PC crowd out of control and they need to be put back in the shed .

Him

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

Of course it isn't!

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

As if it is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whatever next?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

That's just silly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jeezo the place has gone mad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is coffee a race now?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

A racist comment is a comment about someone's nationality or race, not what colour a beverage is served.

I wonder who your mate worked for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

Erm, think i'll wait for someone else to reply before i decide.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"?

Not at all this is the PC crowd out of control and they need to be put back in the shed .

Him"

Couldn't agree more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All these replies already and i'm still confused...

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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Is coffee a race now? "

Haha, I had not considered that possibility!

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Of course it isnt - if it was how would you buy black or white paint .... without it being racist .... and imagine what a problem you would have buying green paint (poor Martians).

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton

White or Brown Bread ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't believe that for an instant.

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By *rMrs-Luv-ItCouple
over a year ago

cwmbranish


"White or Brown Bread ? "

I'm shocked lol

Him

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By *rMrs-Luv-ItCouple
over a year ago

cwmbranish


"I don't believe that for an instant."

lol I saw what you did there

Him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it isn't, in any way, shape, or form.

Anyone who thinks it is (of which I really doubt there is anyone) is either on a wind up or genuinely bonkers.

Kind Regards

The PC Brigade.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time

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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

How do you decide which "side" you are on in chess? Or backgammon?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

Really? That sounds decidedly odd. I'm part of the much hated PC Brigade and I've never heard this one before.

Could it be, just possibly, that "with or without milk" was clearer when dealing with mass catering at a large function?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. "

Yet you still get whiteboards...

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard.

Yet you still get whiteboards..."

They are smartboards now

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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard.

Yet you still get whiteboards...

They are smartboards now"

That's proper racist then!

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By *iptopcoolMan
over a year ago

mid

I think you will find that "costa" are the company that have made it out to be racist to ask for a black coffee, they are trying to insist on you asking for a coffee without as its more PC

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. "

And yet, what most black/chalk boards have been replaced with these days, is called a whiteboard. Should I be offended by that?

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton


"White or Brown Bread ?

I'm shocked lol

Him"
Well if that shocked you Brown, White or Yellow Rice LOL

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By *rMrs-Luv-ItCouple
over a year ago

cwmbranish


"White or Brown Bread ?

I'm shocked lol

HimWell if that shocked you Brown, White or Yellow Rice LOL"

LMFAO brill

Him

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"White or Brown Bread ?

I'm shocked lol

HimWell if that shocked you Brown, White or Yellow Rice LOL"

What about all those foodies who say they won't touch white foods?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time"

That's the whole point though isn't it, these organisations, committees or whatever who appoint themselves as spokespersons for an ethnic group to which they don't belong, deciding what might be offensive to others. And they get paid to do this, generally by taxpayers money. Now that's what I find offensive.

Here endeth my little rant.

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By *rMrs-Luv-ItCouple
over a year ago

cwmbranish


"White or Brown Bread ?

I'm shocked lol

HimWell if that shocked you Brown, White or Yellow Rice LOL

What about all those foodies who say they won't touch white foods?

"

It could get way out of hand . I am just glad the majority of people have at least some bit of common sense .

Him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that's the Geordies and their newky brown fucked then!

What a stupid comment that personally I think undermines the meaning of racist, I hate it when it's used so loosely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't believe that for an instant.

lol I saw what you did there

Him"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

they were pulling your leg or they have an agenda to perpetuate urban myth's..

had something similar at work where someone was saying to refer to a black guy as black was racist, even when told by the mate who was the guy in question 'i am black, its not an issue' the original guy wouldn't have it..

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"?

Really? That sounds decidedly odd. I'm part of the much hated PC Brigade and I've never heard this one before.

Could it be, just possibly, that "with or without milk" was clearer when dealing with mass catering at a large function?

"

I'm not sure how asking 'with or without milk' is any clearer than 'black or white'

I also think that blaming every stupid idea that pops into someone's head as 'PC gone mad' had gone totally mad to.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"?

Really? That sounds decidedly odd. I'm part of the much hated PC Brigade and I've never heard this one before.

Could it be, just possibly, that "with or without milk" was clearer when dealing with mass catering at a large function?

I'm not sure how asking 'with or without milk' is any clearer than 'black or white'

I also think that blaming every stupid idea that pops into someone's head as 'PC gone mad' had gone totally mad to. "

I agree with the last bit.

It doesn't sound credible that race was used as the reason for this claim.

I don't drink tea or coffee but I think being clear about milk in a world full of allergies and intolerance is a good thing. It's all yucky as far as I'm concerned though.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

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By *lutandhubbyCouple
over a year ago

west midlands

so are we racist?. we are from the black country.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

This sounds totally made up by the kind of people who love to complain about 'PC gone mad'.

Maybe, just maybe, some person got scared at using the word 'black'. But that isn't any kind of idea that's held by people who are pro-PC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wtf? That's just mental!

Who comes up with this crap?

Isn't going out of the way to avoid the word black more racicst than just accepting that things have colours, that's black, that's red, that's white that's blue...

Who gives a fuck, it's a word that describes a colour...it has no power. Only the mind that uses the word gives it power, and a mind scared to use the word black, is more racist than the mind that sees no issue with the word.

Get a grip weird coffee company!

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

Went to the Garden Centre Last Week and Asked For a SPADE...

you should have seen the Look I got..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fear for black pudding.

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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??"

Yeah it must be a subconscious thing

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I fear for black pudding."

What about white pudding?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

Yeah it must be a subconscious thing "

I also like burnt toast hmmmmm

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By *iscean MaleMan
over a year ago

Darlaston

Some idiot in london has too much time on his or her hand and needs a proper job.

Its not racist at all

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"Some idiot in london has too much time on his or her hand and needs a proper job.

Its not racist at all"

What's the connection with London

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??"

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I fear for black pudding."

You can keep black pudding, but what about black forest gateau? I hope liking that isnt racist.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Wtf? That's just mental!

Who comes up with this crap?

Isn't going out of the way to avoid the word black more racicst than just accepting that things have colours, that's black, that's red, that's white that's blue...

Who gives a fuck, it's a word that describes a colour...it has no power. Only the mind that uses the word gives it power, and a mind scared to use the word black, is more racist than the mind that sees no issue with the word.

Get a grip weird coffee company! "

Technically black is not an actual colour. Black is the absence of all colour.

Just saying.

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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

Yeah it must be a subconscious thing

I also like burnt toast hmmmmm"

Interesting, i was going to say you liked to add the soya milk because you secretly hated him and wanted to destroy his black identity with your white supremacists milk, but now you mention the toast I'm just not sure.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words."

Don't knock it until you have tried it .... i'll bring a soya latte to the next msd

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time

That's the whole point though isn't it, these organisations, committees or whatever who appoint themselves as spokespersons for an ethnic group to which they don't belong, deciding what might be offensive to others. And they get paid to do this, generally by taxpayers money. Now that's what I find offensive.

Here endeth my little rant."

I'm appointing myself spokes person for women, I know what's sexist and what's not, men eh who'd have em, don't talk to me about periods.

Yeah that's how fucking ridiculous do Gooders sound, when they presume to know what is offensive, I've suffered racism, real racism, lost tooth, 4 hrs in a&e footprint on my head racism, and not once during the extensive beating did he ask me if I wanted black or white coffee, use a black board, sing baa baa fucking black sheep, or avoid telling me he was going to beat me till I black out.

Racism exists, that's a sad fact of life, but some people are trying too hard to not be racist, so hard they are becoming a bit racist if that makes sense

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

It would only be racist if there was an actual difference in the coffee served to black people and white people. One gets a plastic cup, the other bone China?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm going with "no wuch thing ever happened" but they just wanted something to say

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

Don't knock it until you have tried it .... i'll bring a soya latte to the next msd"

And be accused of being a fellow traveler. No chance. You're on that wall in your own, unless you can find a few vegans. They're for the wall to come the revolution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would only be racist if there was an actual difference in the coffee served to black people and white people. One gets a plastic cup, the other bone China?"

So is medication that is different for white and black people racist?

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By *ullbackbuttMan
over a year ago

Purton

Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?"

I am not sure that happens anymore ... more of an urban myth now, bandied about by the anti-pc brigade

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Obviously not accusing you of anything OP but this is like one of those pics you see with text on Facebook shared by some ugly fat white bloke saying "this country is far too PC it's not like good old days".

Ha, what I just said was a bit racist wasn't it? Ah well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words."

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Of course it isnt - if it was how would you buy black or white paint .... without it being racist .... and imagine what a problem you would have buying green paint (poor Martians).

"

Ooh I'm one.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?"

Oh for....

This refers to some people who just did a different version of the song, just for fun.

It was nothing at all to do with racism. The original song wasn't banned. Just someone did it a bit differently.

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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Obviously not accusing you of anything OP but this is like one of those pics you see with text on Facebook shared by some ugly fat white bloke saying "this country is far too PC it's not like good old days".

Ha, what I just said was a bit racist wasn't it? Ah well. "

Like you never want to hear a sentence that starts "Im not racist, but..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??"

Some of us even take soya milk because we disagree with the rape and abuse of cows

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. "

Yeah ... let's start a soya milk revolution. Been in it for years, thank goodness its mainstream now ....

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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?"

I thought the rainbow sheep were the LGBT sheep?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think you will find that "costa" are the company that have made it out to be racist to ask for a black coffee, they are trying to insist on you asking for a coffee without as its more PC "

No,Costa and other coffee chains have committed a far graver sin. They don't serve coffee it has to be a made up sudo italian word, not just for the coffee but the mug you want it in too... Ask for a medium black coffee and you may as well be talking Martian.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident.

Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident.

Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either."

It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that.

Funny innit.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"It would only be racist if there was an actual difference in the coffee served to black people and white people. One gets a plastic cup, the other bone China?

So is medication that is different for white and black people racist?"

Different people have different needs and some races are more susceptible you some conditions than others. For example, darker skinned people are more susceptible to vitamin D deficiency than lighter skinned people. There are many other, far more serious illnesses, that affect some races more than others.

The reality is is that we are not all the same and that there are differences between races that do go deeper than just the colour of the skin. To ignore that fact in the treatment of people just in case it was considered racist would be to do a disservice to those affected.

Being equal does not mean being the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "
simple answer to that is no end of

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"It would only be racist if there was an actual difference in the coffee served to black people and white people. One gets a plastic cup, the other bone China?

So is medication that is different for white and black people racist?

Different people have different needs and some races are more susceptible you some conditions than others. For example, darker skinned people are more susceptible to vitamin D deficiency than lighter skinned people. There are many other, far more serious illnesses, that affect some races more than others.

The reality is is that we are not all the same and that there are differences between races that do go deeper than just the colour of the skin. To ignore that fact in the treatment of people just in case it was considered racist would be to do a disservice to those affected.

Being equal does not mean being the same."

Exactly! Women have been getting the wrong doses of medications for years as the people who put themselves forward for trials tend to be young men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time"

How racist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard.

Yet you still get whiteboards...

They are smartboards now"

Actually I'm offended by smartboards because they descriminate against people with learning difficulties.

Not.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard.

Yet you still get whiteboards...

They are smartboards now

Actually I'm offended by smartboards because they descriminate against people with learning difficulties.

Not. "

They're not that smart. None of the ones at work seem to like my writing and refuse to display my scribbles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder what stapled would say if I asked for some paper with milk and pens without?

Teaching piano must be a nightmare...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident.

Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either.

It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that.

Funny innit. "

Well I read an inter_iew in the guardian (not exactly a right wing haven) with a head teacher who banned sports day being competitive. Her logic was basically "I'm not athletic, I hated sports day, therefore I want to project my insecurities on everyone else". Well I'm shit at maths and I didn't like it much at school, doesn't mean we should ban it for everyone else...

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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard.

Yet you still get whiteboards...

They are smartboards now

Actually I'm offended by smartboards because they descriminate against people with learning difficulties.

Not.

They're not that smart. None of the ones at work seem to like my writing and refuse to display my scribbles.

"

IT have told you to stop drawing those cock pics, but you just dont listen!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. "

Two more for the wall then I see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard.

Yet you still get whiteboards...

They are smartboards now

Actually I'm offended by smartboards because they descriminate against people with learning difficulties.

Not.

They're not that smart. None of the ones at work seem to like my writing and refuse to display my scribbles.

"

Maybe they should be called "smugboards" - boards that think they are smarter than everyone else but aren't really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

when I'm served coffee they just fill my cup and ask if I'd like suger, milk or cream

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident.

Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either.

It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that.

Funny innit. "

Like the one that said a tesco in London stopped a soldier entering their store in his uniform, two points

1 when was the last time you saw a serving soldier walking the streets in his uniform

2 there isn't even a tesco in the location it allegedly happened

I saw a quote ice that summed thus up

"Don't believe everything you see on the internet just because it is accredited to someone who is famous"

-Abriham Lincon

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time"

Soooo true

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time

Soooo true "

I am not black, but my partner and our children are .... so, can't I have an opinion about what I experience as part of their experience? Maybe I dont need to be there for my partner, as he can fend for himself, but I will certainly call people for their attitude or comments about my children and other children. Obviously I am not talking about black coffee here ... but racist attitudes

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so are we racist?. we are from the black country. "

No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain,

The Black Country made chains

We exported those chains

People used those chains to chain black people

Wtf

Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"so are we racist?. we are from the black country.

No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain,

The Black Country made chains

We exported those chains

People used those chains to chain black people

Wtf

Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they "

Chain chain chain

Chain of fools...

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?"

Those teachers should try telling Rolling Stones fans they can't sing Paint it black anymore, love to see the reaction, lol.

Just glad I don't drink tea or coffee, really can't be doing with this sort of ridiculous nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

No but it is racist to reply "ni@!er brown" sorry I mean no offence

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?

Those teachers should try telling Rolling Stones fans they can't sing Paint it black anymore, love to see the reaction, lol.

Just glad I don't drink tea or coffee, really can't be doing with this sort of ridiculous nonsense. "

I was in the Beaufort bar at the Savoy last night and the pianist played and sang Blackbird!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wtf? That's just mental!

Who comes up with this crap?

Isn't going out of the way to avoid the word black more racicst than just accepting that things have colours, that's black, that's red, that's white that's blue...

Who gives a fuck, it's a word that describes a colour...it has no power. Only the mind that uses the word gives it power, and a mind scared to use the word black, is more racist than the mind that sees no issue with the word.

Get a grip weird coffee company!

Technically black is not an actual colour. Black is the absence of all colour.

Just saying."

Cool story bro

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?

Those teachers should try telling Rolling Stones fans they can't sing Paint it black anymore, love to see the reaction, lol.

Just glad I don't drink tea or coffee, really can't be doing with this sort of ridiculous nonsense.

I was in the Beaufort bar at the Savoy last night and the pianist played and sang Blackbird! "

That's ok, because he used both black and white keys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?

Those teachers should try telling Rolling Stones fans they can't sing Paint it black anymore, love to see the reaction, lol.

Just glad I don't drink tea or coffee, really can't be doing with this sort of ridiculous nonsense. "

I drink it either but it's bloody difficult to order for other people. They say "get me a coffee" and you say "coffee please" and you get twenty questions back with Italian sounding words I can't pronounce

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.


"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident.

Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either.

It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that.

Funny innit.

Like the one that said a tesco in London stopped a soldier entering their store in his uniform, two points

1 when was the last time you saw a serving soldier walking the streets in his uniform

2 there isn't even a tesco in the location it allegedly happened

I saw a quote ice that summed thus up

"Don't believe everything you see on the internet just because it is accredited to someone who is famous"

-Abriham Lincon

"

I work in central London and see members of the armed forces walking about in uniform almost every day...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident.

Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either.

It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that.

Funny innit.

Like the one that said a tesco in London stopped a soldier entering their store in his uniform, two points

1 when was the last time you saw a serving soldier walking the streets in his uniform

2 there isn't even a tesco in the location it allegedly happened

I saw a quote ice that summed thus up

"Don't believe everything you see on the internet just because it is accredited to someone who is famous"

-Abriham Lincon

I work in central London and see members of the armed forces walking about in uniform almost every day..."

Ok I stand corrected, but it's something I never see in Birmingham , and I can only go on what I see

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By *LCC OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

I work in central London and see members of the armed forces walking about in uniform almost every day..."

We were in McDonald's the other day, and my wife said "have you seen those cadets over there?" I turned round to see two RAF Policemen having their breakfast!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so are we racist?. we are from the black country.

No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain,

The Black Country made chains

We exported those chains

People used those chains to chain black people

Wtf

Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they "

Black Country wench here, it was the heart of the industrial revolution. Which I believe was the early 1820s, wasn't slavery abolished around this time? Correct me if I'm wrong......aye it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. "

Nope. We live in the eu not America.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so are we racist?. we are from the black country.

No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain,

The Black Country made chains

We exported those chains

People used those chains to chain black people

Wtf

Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they

Black Country wench here, it was the heart of the industrial revolution. Which I believe was the early 1820s, wasn't slavery abolished around this time? Correct me if I'm wrong......aye it. "

Ah Dow now, it was abaht then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Estrogen in soya milk? Discuss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident.

Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either.

It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that.

Funny innit.

Like the one that said a tesco in London stopped a soldier entering their store in his uniform, two points

1 when was the last time you saw a serving soldier walking the streets in his uniform

2 there isn't even a tesco in the location it allegedly happened

I saw a quote ice that summed thus up

"Don't believe everything you see on the internet just because it is accredited to someone who is famous"

-Abriham Lincon

I work in central London and see members of the armed forces walking about in uniform almost every day...

Ok I stand corrected, but it's something I never see in Birmingham , and I can only go on what I see"

To my knowledge most military bases are in the south with some strategically placed in the north and Scotland. So you probably wouldn't see many because there aren't any bases near you. We live near-ish to one so it's pretty common

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so are we racist?. we are from the black country.

No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain,

The Black Country made chains

We exported those chains

People used those chains to chain black people

Wtf

Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they "

So you're a bloody feminist....

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.


"

I work in central London and see members of the armed forces walking about in uniform almost every day...

We were in McDonald's the other day, and my wife said "have you seen those cadets over there?" I turned round to see two RAF Policemen having their breakfast! "

They do seem to get younger every year...lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so are we racist?. we are from the black country.

No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain,

The Black Country made chains

We exported those chains

People used those chains to chain black people

Wtf

Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they

So you're a bloody feminist.... "

Yeah, I'm all for the women's movement, I hate it when they just lie there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so are we racist?. we are from the black country.

No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain,

The Black Country made chains

We exported those chains

People used those chains to chain black people

Wtf

Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they

So you're a bloody feminist....

Yeah, I'm all for the women's movement, I hate it when they just lie there "

Ladies and Gentleman, Tyson Fury has joined the forum

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

would a white person think it was raciest if they were asked

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

At least the drinker knew what was being added to the coffee. Lumpy cream would be worse - I've not been on all day, but seen mention of a now full earlier thread.

Some stupid person must have decided this coffee serving racism nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so are we racist?. we are from the black country.

No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain,

The Black Country made chains

We exported those chains

People used those chains to chain black people

Wtf

Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they

So you're a bloody feminist....

Yeah, I'm all for the women's movement, I hate it when they just lie there

Ladies and Gentleman, Tyson Fury has joined the forum "

I was being ironic, in fact I was being more than ironic, I was being moronic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My kids school has banned "baa baa black sheep" as apparently its considered racist...

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

As a black person I've NEVER come across a black person who is remotely bothered by such bollocks: it's white people nonsense.

I had a boss I got on well with. The first time he offered to make me coffee he asked me how I took it. I said black, like my men, and that became our standing joke.

Someone overheard us and took me aside and wanted me to take out a grievance for his racist remarks.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

The Wild Wetness


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

No.

But some.people like cream in coffee so white is not descriptive enough.

I tend to ask, milk and sugar?

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

White goods in a kitchen ???

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time"

Half the time?!!

In my experience close to 100% of this kind if bollocks stems from white people. Black people have bigger fish to fry, preventing our kids joining gangs, getting an education etc than worrying about how hot beverages are served.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Went to the Garden Centre Last Week and Asked For a SPADE...

you should have seen the Look I got.. "

My other half asked me to pass him "the black man" when we were in the garden. He thought he was being funny.

When my daughters and I looked at him he said "what?"

Can't think why my daughters don't like him!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time

That's the whole point though isn't it, these organisations, committees or whatever who appoint themselves as spokespersons for an ethnic group to which they don't belong, deciding what might be offensive to others. And they get paid to do this, generally by taxpayers money. Now that's what I find offensive.

Here endeth my little rant.

I'm appointing myself spokes person for women, I know what's sexist and what's not, men eh who'd have em, don't talk to me about periods.

Yeah that's how fucking ridiculous do Gooders sound, when they presume to know what is offensive, I've suffered racism, real racism, lost tooth, 4 hrs in a&e footprint on my head racism, and not once during the extensive beating did he ask me if I wanted black or white coffee, use a black board, sing baa baa fucking black sheep, or avoid telling me he was going to beat me till I black out.

Racism exists, that's a sad fact of life, but some people are trying too hard to not be racist, so hard they are becoming a bit racist if that makes sense "

Do gooding white people: the bane of black people.

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By *redrobCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kilmarnock


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

Apparently in Europe, it's to be referred to as An Americano only instead if a Black coffee. Which is really silly considering in Majority Black countries, it's still refer to as a Black coffee. Black Berries will be next on there list.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I'm going with "no wuch thing ever happened" but they just wanted something to say"

That was my first impression, but by the op not the "friend".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't believe that for an instant."

What if it was freshly ground

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

This is more that a 7 year old debate, originating in the US college (university) campuses. It was around the time when there was a movement to take back the word "black" in language. Similar divisions can be seen in sex when there was a drive for androgynous terms like 'police person' or 'fire person' and the like, instead of police woman or police man.

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

Initially I was thinking 'was the OP pulling are legs'

Then I remembered schools' started using the terminology

"Chalk Board" and not the 'B' word board (not wanting to be sounding racist myself)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please, for the love of God, don't ban

Blacks the outdoor store

Black ops

Blackberry phones

The album back in black

Black butler

Wonderful life by black

Cilla black

Carling black label (although it's now just carling?)

Tori black

Or black night

Feel free to ban Black Friday though, it's shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's the power of words. It's not the weird, it's how you use it. It's context, intent and meaning.

I love words. A word has the power to hurt and heal in equal measure.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"This is more that a 7 year old debate, originating in the US college (university) campuses. It was around the time when there was a movement to take back the word "black" in language. Similar divisions can be seen in sex when there was a drive for androgynous terms like 'police person' or 'fire person' and the like, instead of police woman or police man. "
we were forced to adopt the term signaller in place of signalman when rail track came along seems to have stuck now

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By *iscean MaleMan
over a year ago

Darlaston


"Some idiot in london has too much time on his or her hand and needs a proper job.

Its not racist at all

What's the connection with London"

Its just a saying here... where law makers.. do gooders and government is based.

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By *lack AlanMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

How ridiculous can the world get.if that be the case is my name racist lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I have a latte please no sugar

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended "

At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended

At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now "

Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black

Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White

Toaster, bread maker,: Silver

Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour

Don't these idiots have anything better to do?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

I have come to the conclusion that many of these PC types who come up with stuff like this do so because they are closet racists. And just like all those who are not comfortable in their skin, they are always looking for ways to point fingers at others and label others as being what they are.

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If someone asked me how I wanted a coffee and told me saying I could not say black or white, I had to with or without milk, I would demand cream!

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"?

I have come to the conclusion that many of these PC types who come up with stuff like this do so because they are closet racists. And just like all those who are not comfortable in their skin, they are always looking for ways to point fingers at others and label others as being what they are.

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If someone asked me how I wanted a coffee and told me saying I could not say black or white, I had to with or without milk, I would demand cream!

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You need a 'heavy cummer'

[ yuk; I can't believe I wrote that ]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal.

Two more for the wall then I see. "

Just two more humans trying not to play their part in the destruction of the planet, that's all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Estrogen in soya milk? Discuss "

Go on then...

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"?

I have come to the conclusion that many of these PC types who come up with stuff like this do so because they are closet racists. And just like all those who are not comfortable in their skin, they are always looking for ways to point fingers at others and label others as being what they are.

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If someone asked me how I wanted a coffee and told me saying I could not say black or white, I had to with or without milk, I would demand cream!

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It actually doesn't bovver me whether I'm asked 'with or without milk' or 'black or white' but if I asked either way and was told I had to say the other I would simply consider that as extremely rude and go and buy my coffee else where. I'm there for coffee, not lessons or lectures in either racist terminology or reactionary Miniver Cheevyism. I just want coffee the way I like. White 1 sugar. Any one offering?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal.

Two more for the wall then I see.

Just two more humans trying not to play their part in the destruction of the planet, that's all. "

Are you always this serious?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended

At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now

Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black

Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White

Toaster, bread maker,: Silver

Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour

Don't these idiots have anything better to do?"

It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal.

"

The number of drugs cleared for animals producing milk for human consumption is tiny, as it goes - and even the the milk withdraw is usually pretty hefty.

There are quite a few issues that you could have chosen with dairying in general (the one that I was always uncomforable with was the shooting of bull calves - which hardly happens now, by the way), but that seems to be an odd one.

Unless, of course you have been watching/reading things pertaining to US dairying - the rules in the EU are vastly different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal.

The number of drugs cleared for animals producing milk for human consumption is tiny, as it goes - and even the the milk withdraw is usually pretty hefty.

There are quite a few issues that you could have chosen with dairying in general (the one that I was always uncomforable with was the shooting of bull calves - which hardly happens now, by the way), but that seems to be an odd one.

Unless, of course you have been watching/reading things pertaining to US dairying - the rules in the EU are vastly different."

You're right, there are quite a few issues, that was just one of them. Here is a summary of the rest.

http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/animals-used-food-factsheets/cows-milk-cruel-unhealthy-product/

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal.

The number of drugs cleared for animals producing milk for human consumption is tiny, as it goes - and even the the milk withdraw is usually pretty hefty.

There are quite a few issues that you could have chosen with dairying in general (the one that I was always uncomforable with was the shooting of bull calves - which hardly happens now, by the way), but that seems to be an odd one.

Unless, of course you have been watching/reading things pertaining to US dairying - the rules in the EU are vastly different.

You're right, there are quite a few issues, that was just one of them. Here is a summary of the rest.

http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/animals-used-food-factsheets/cows-milk-cruel-unhealthy-product/"

And yet, you quote PETA, a US organisation, with an article relating to dairying IN THE USA (as stated, actually in the second paragraph). As I have said, our welfare regs are some of the highest in the world, and a lot of that article simply isn't relevant to dairying in the EU.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

no it isn't racist but don't blame the P.C brigade it's the anti p.c. brigade who start these stupid stories ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended

At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now

Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black

Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White

Toaster, bread maker,: Silver

Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour

Don't these idiots have anything better to do?

It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances. "
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I think the commonly used term is, white goods!

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage

I best not buy any white goods then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

Idiots with no manners or etiquette

White coffee could be with coffe mate or other non dairy alternative

Milk is milk and some are allergic to milk

Nothing to do with racism

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just another urban myth to allow 'angry of Tunbridge Wells' types to moan about the 'PC Brigade'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is coffee a race now? "
what county can you say your from now lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal.

The number of drugs cleared for animals producing milk for human consumption is tiny, as it goes - and even the the milk withdraw is usually pretty hefty.

There are quite a few issues that you could have chosen with dairying in general (the one that I was always uncomforable with was the shooting of bull calves - which hardly happens now, by the way), but that seems to be an odd one.

Unless, of course you have been watching/reading things pertaining to US dairying - the rules in the EU are vastly different.

You're right, there are quite a few issues, that was just one of them. Here is a summary of the rest.

http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/animals-used-food-factsheets/cows-milk-cruel-unhealthy-product/

And yet, you quote PETA, a US organisation, with an article relating to dairying IN THE USA (as stated, actually in the second paragraph). As I have said, our welfare regs are some of the highest in the world, and a lot of that article simply isn't relevant to dairying in the EU. "

I'm against cruelty anywhere in the world bro, not just in the EU.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??

SOYA MILK!! WTF..

Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words.

You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal.

The number of drugs cleared for animals producing milk for human consumption is tiny, as it goes - and even the the milk withdraw is usually pretty hefty.

There are quite a few issues that you could have chosen with dairying in general (the one that I was always uncomforable with was the shooting of bull calves - which hardly happens now, by the way), but that seems to be an odd one.

Unless, of course you have been watching/reading things pertaining to US dairying - the rules in the EU are vastly different.

You're right, there are quite a few issues, that was just one of them. Here is a summary of the rest.

http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/animals-used-food-factsheets/cows-milk-cruel-unhealthy-product/

And yet, you quote PETA, a US organisation, with an article relating to dairying IN THE USA (as stated, actually in the second paragraph). As I have said, our welfare regs are some of the highest in the world, and a lot of that article simply isn't relevant to dairying in the EU.

I'm against cruelty anywhere in the world bro, not just in the EU. "

Whilst it is sad for cows in the USA that they have almost no animal welfare regs, this is unlikely to impact milk in Britain, is it?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

I think there is also cruelty in the dairy industry in the UK, hence my choice to opt out of the meat and dairy industry and their products for the last twenty plus years.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended

At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now

Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black

Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White

Toaster, bread maker,: Silver

Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour

Don't these idiots have anything better to do?

It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances. "

The poor kettle doesn't think so; overworked, underpaid and over-here.

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over a year ago


"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended

At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now

Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black

Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White

Toaster, bread maker,: Silver

Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour

Don't these idiots have anything better to do?

It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances.

The poor kettle doesn't think so; overworked, underpaid and over-here. "

That's entirely his fault for calling the pot black, I have no sympathy for the kettle at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They will be taking the black ball out ov snooker nd pool soon. Its getting stupid

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"no it isn't racist but don't blame the P.C brigade it's the anti p.c. brigade who start these stupid stories ... "

Yep!

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"no it isn't racist but don't blame the P.C brigade it's the anti p.c. brigade who start these stupid stories ..."

What tosh!

The simple fact is that if the PC brigade did not come up with such an asinine idea of what is and isn't racist then there would be no story. That you blame those of us who complain about such PC conditioning shows how well it is working on you.

Will you feel the same way when it is turned on you? Remember you (and I along with everyone else here) are seen as deviants by many and we are already coming under attack by the the more radical elements of many religions and they are the ones who drive the PC movement.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

the company should state that on their website to tell all it's customers how serious they are taking discrimination..........

and then let the senior people speak to the reaction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Will you feel the same way when it is turned on you? Remember you (and I along with everyone else here) are seen as deviants by many and we are already coming under attack by the the more radical elements of many religions and they are the ones who drive the PC movement."

I was with you until the religious bit entered the story- do you have Mormons knocking on your door telling you that swinging sends you to the 7th level of hell?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

What about coffee coloured?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

I said:

Will you feel the same way when it is turned on you? Remember you (and I along with everyone else here) are seen as deviants by many and we are already coming under attack by the the more radical elements of many religions and they are the ones who drive the PC movement.


"I was with you until the religious bit entered the story- do you have Mormons knocking on your door telling you that swinging sends you to the 7th level of hell? "

I did not mention any particular faith, I made a general statement, in the same way as I could have said that the race to maximum 'political correctness' is lead by the most radical elements of the pseudo liberal ultra left wing of the political spectrum and supported by the equally unpalatable ultra right wing. While the rush to curb sexual freedoms is lead by Ultra conservative right wing religious groups. But I chose to be so verbose. For this I apologise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist.

So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? "

Ffs and we wonder why we live in such s messed up world

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I said:

Will you feel the same way when it is turned on you? Remember you (and I along with everyone else here) are seen as deviants by many and we are already coming under attack by the the more radical elements of many religions and they are the ones who drive the PC movement.

I was with you until the religious bit entered the story- do you have Mormons knocking on your door telling you that swinging sends you to the 7th level of hell?

I did not mention any particular faith, I made a general statement, in the same way as I could have said that the race to maximum 'political correctness' is lead by the most radical elements of the pseudo liberal ultra left wing of the political spectrum and supported by the equally unpalatable ultra right wing. While the rush to curb sexual freedoms is lead by Ultra conservative right wing religious groups. But I chose to be so verbose. For this I apologise."

OK I'm just still unsure who is out there actively trying to curb sexual freedoms? It's not something I've seen debated on question time or in the commons recently...

Some religious groups tell their members that bum sex is wrong, but I haven't seen them stood outside gay saunas with placards since my last visit

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"OK I'm just still unsure who is out there actively trying to curb sexual freedoms? It's not something I've seen debated on question time or in the commons recently...

Some religious groups tell their members that bum sex is wrong, but I haven't seen them stood outside gay saunas with placards since my last visit "

I take it that you never watch or listen to the Sunday morning morality debates on TV and radio. Because it seems to me to be a recurring subject. I have also noticed that whenever there is a proposal to open a sex shop or club or relax any sexual restrictions (prostitution, brothels and the like) then there is always a well organised and funded highly voluble campaign to oppose liberalisation that is always led by religious community leaders.

But as you say you cant remember the last time you saw anything...

Just proves the old adage 'a week is a long time in politics'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK I'm just still unsure who is out there actively trying to curb sexual freedoms? It's not something I've seen debated on question time or in the commons recently...

Some religious groups tell their members that bum sex is wrong, but I haven't seen them stood outside gay saunas with placards since my last visit

I take it that you never watch or listen to the Sunday morning morality debates on TV and radio. Because it seems to me to be a recurring subject. I have also noticed that whenever there is a proposal to open a sex shop or club or relax any sexual restrictions (prostitution, brothels and the like) then there is always a well organised and funded highly voluble campaign to oppose liberalisation that is always led by religious community leaders.

But as you say you cant remember the last time you saw anything...

Just proves the old adage 'a week is a long time in politics'."

Honestly, no I don't listen to those debates. But we do visit AbFabs and it's a bit more relevant to forum. Some people are trying to close that down - are they religious nuts or just secular prudes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is an ancient debate which I remember raising its head over fifteen years ago. At the time l decided to use the phrase "with milk or without". Why, because coffee is not black and 'with or without milk' is accurate. Wow is that painful?

I am staunch believer in PC because at the end of the day its values are firstly being polite, secondly it is about being inclusive. All those against PC go watch 70s sitcoms and representation of minorities and women in pre 1990s films.

In an age where we are trying to present positive role models for young girls, shape the behavior of young men, include gay and trans as equals in in the community. Then we need to take care of how we use language.

As a man l need to take care how l address a woman and seek consent for bedroom talk. In discussing other ethnic groups or cultures, why would l seek to deliberately give insult?

Politeness, inclusiveness, tolerance and treating people equally without being taken for a mug l believe are British values. Unfortunately in my _iew in the PC debate too many listen to the hype!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Such is the extremist level of PC at times that the word black is considered racist irrespective of the context

For me personally I consider something racist to be in some way derogatory opposed to being a point of distinguishing between two or more people/items example of which being if Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua were stood next to each other and I got asked which is which is say Fury is the white guy and Joshua is the black guy in the same way I'd distinguish a couple of people with different hair colours

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over a year ago


"This is an ancient debate which I remember raising its head over fifteen years ago. At the time l decided to use the phrase "with milk or without". Why, because coffee is not black and 'with or without milk' is accurate. Wow is that painful?

I am staunch believer in PC because at the end of the day its values are firstly being polite, secondly it is about being inclusive. All those against PC go watch 70s sitcoms and representation of minorities and women in pre 1990s films.

In an age where we are trying to present positive role models for young girls, shape the behavior of young men, include gay and trans as equals in in the community. Then we need to take care of how we use language.

As a man l need to take care how l address a woman and seek consent for bedroom talk. In discussing other ethnic groups or cultures, why would l seek to deliberately give insult?

Politeness, inclusiveness, tolerance and treating people equally without being taken for a mug l believe are British values. Unfortunately in my _iew in the PC debate too many listen to the hype!"

Ozzz you're a very wise man

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended

At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now

Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black

Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White

Toaster, bread maker,: Silver

Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour

Don't these idiots have anything better to do?

It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances. .

I think the commonly used term is, white goods! "

Bloody racist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard.

Yet you still get whiteboards..."

This is a myth. My sister is a teacher and I can assure you it's still called a blackboard.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended

At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now

Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black

Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White

Toaster, bread maker,: Silver

Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour

Don't these idiots have anything better to do?

It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances.

The poor kettle doesn't think so; overworked, underpaid and over-here.

That's entirely his fault for calling the pot black, I have no sympathy for the kettle at all."

I thought it was the pot that called the kettle black! So it's really all the fault of the kettle for not taking the pot to a racial discrimination tribunal when it had the outright audacity to call the kettle black in the first place.

Personally, if I'd been the kettle, I'd have just smoked the pot and not worried about what colour it thought I was: But that's just me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok so white bread or brow bread ? Is that racist too ?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Honestly, no I don't listen to those debates. But we do visit AbFabs and it's a bit more relevant to forum. Some people are trying to close that down - are they religious nuts or just secular prudes? "

You should. If you do you will be surprised at the 'unholy' coalitions that are springing up between the ultra left (anti religion) and the ultra right (conservative religious) groups to curtail every ones freedom of actions and even thought. Just take a look at the American Families Association website and read their objectives (remember there are similar here but less open and above board).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Honestly, no I don't listen to those debates. But we do visit AbFabs and it's a bit more relevant to forum. Some people are trying to close that down - are they religious nuts or just secular prudes?

You should. If you do you will be surprised at the 'unholy' coalitions that are springing up between the ultra left (anti religion) and the ultra right (conservative religious) groups to curtail every ones freedom of actions and even thought. Just take a look at the American Families Association website and read their objectives (remember there are similar here but less open and above board)."

Well extreme left and extreme right are basically the same so I can believe what you are saying. But seriously, how are these debates impacting everyday life? Other than Kestrals might eventually shut (due to a council prude rather than the local church)

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"This is an ancient debate which I remember raising its head over fifteen years ago. At the time l decided to use the phrase "with milk or without". Why, because coffee is not black and 'with or without milk' is accurate. Wow is that painful?

I am staunch believer in PC because at the end of the day its values are firstly being polite, secondly it is about being inclusive. All those against PC go watch 70s sitcoms and representation of minorities and women in pre 1990s films.

In an age where we are trying to present positive role models for young girls, shape the behavior of young men, include gay and trans as equals in in the community. Then we need to take care of how we use language.

As a man l need to take care how l address a woman and seek consent for bedroom talk. In discussing other ethnic groups or cultures, why would l seek to deliberately give insult?

Politeness, inclusiveness, tolerance and treating people equally without being taken for a mug l believe are British values. Unfortunately in my _iew in the PC debate too many listen to the hype!"

I agree with what you say about being both polite and inclusive however I don't think that that has anything to do with being PC. To me it is neither polite or inclusive to hall someone up for the way they ask for their coffee to either have milk or not. That's just incredibly rude.

All that being said I have to say that I wonder whether this story actually has any real truth in it and, if it does, whether the truth of the matter has more to do with finding out if people actually want milk, some other whitener, or non at all. I suspect that this is really a red herring thrown up by the anti-PC brigade but more fool the PC guys for jumping to its defence.

It's really all just a storm in a tea cup (or coffee mug if you prefer).

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Well extreme left and extreme right are basically the same so I can believe what you are saying. But seriously, how are these debates impacting everyday life? Other than Kestrals might eventually shut (due to a council prude rather than the local church)"

Maybe because the council prudes can justify their stance because they are backed by the local clergy, feminist groups and the like who although they represent probably less than 10% of the electorate can wield power because they are organised. just a thought...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For all those who provided spurious examples: firstly has anyone been factually proved to have complained about the use? Secondly if in a specific context it was found to be racist would you use it? Thirdly given the richness of the English language would it hurt to change? I remember people arguing about the use of actor to women, or chair of a committee and other gender free language which now is not an issue.

In all things context is important.

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