FabSwingers.com forum: Religions on Fab

By *izzyRascal OP Woman
over a year ago

North Hants

I was just on the bus home and a cute American guy asks if he can sit down next to me. I'm thinking score! We start chatting about random things like the Nandos takeaway I had and the weather today. Then he starts to bring the conversation towards an obvious goal and get a little black book out of his pocket ... turns on he's a Mormon and wanted to talk to me about it lol.

I didn't really give him a chance bless him. I'm agnostic and religions have never made sense to me. So I talked to him about how I'm bi and have many wonderful bi/gay friends. I think he got a little overwhelmed as I can talk for England. Sadly I didnt get a chance to tell him about Fab before my stop

Maybe could have converted him

Anyway, I'm just interested in knowing if any Fabbers are religious. It does seem like the sort of thing that would be frowned upon! But then I guess that's what confession is for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Total atheist here. I go up in flames if I go in a church

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS
over a year ago

Epsom

Agnostic myself, you can have faith without the guilt trip that the church has put on people for hundreds of years. Life is for living so enjoy it......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My family is Catholic........ I'm clearly not but I respect them and behave discreetly

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

Atheist here. Religion has no place in my life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christened Greek orthodox

Just another bollocks cult

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

One Christian and one Buddhist here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agnostic. I enjoy the spirituality that religions bring but do not commit to any. Hey, I see spirits occasionally (not that I especially welcome them. It is not as if I put the kettle on). And you can't beat a good carol service at Christmas.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I don't call it a religion but I follow a spiritual path, yes. I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade anybody else to follow it and I only talk about it if asked directly.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I don't call it a religion but I follow a spiritual path, yes. I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade anybody else to follow it and I only talk about it if asked directly."

A bit like swinging then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't tell them about Fab, i used to be a mormon and don't want them seeing me on here...

Not religious now, never was that enthusiastic about in the first place. There are some religious people on here though, i know they've mentioned it before (can't remember names).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gloriously pagan ! Heathen to be exact so just doin as My Lady Freya would

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I don't call it a religion but I follow a spiritual path, yes. I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade anybody else to follow it and I only talk about it if asked directly.

A bit like swinging then! "

A bit but I've never found swinging to be spiritual

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Jedi with a touch of pagan.....although sometimes Pagan with a touch of jedi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Atheist here.

After the things I've seen I'm convinced that all organized religions are just around to cause misery, suffering and generate as much money as possible.

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By *hy-totCouple
over a year ago

Skellow

"Total atheist here. I go up in flames if I go in a church

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same here but we greedy as we want the free toasting fork

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

The last virulent one buggered off, to my knowledge. Made my week when he went UNLOS

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By *helbeeCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton

Im a atheist

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By *izzyRascal OP Woman
over a year ago

North Hants

"Agnostic myself, you can have faith without the guilt trip that the church has put on people for hundreds of years. Life is for living so enjoy it......

Like how you've put that! Its like you can be a good person without following a religion. Morals and kindess aren't religious.

"One Christian and one Buddhist here "

Oooo interesting! Is the Fab lifestyle not a bit against the rules though?

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

They are here, but generally it's not relevant on a meet so doubt they stick it on their profile.

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By *izzyRascal OP Woman
over a year ago

North Hants

"Jedi with a touch of pagan.....although sometimes Pagan with a touch of jedi

May the force be with you then on this joyous week of the release of the new movie! Must be better than Christmas for you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Total Atheist here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Gloriously pagan ! Heathen to be exact so just doin as My Lady Freya would

Go girl X

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By *izzyRascal OP Woman
over a year ago

North Hants

"They are here, but generally it's not relevant on a meet so doubt they stick it on their profile. "

Oh yes of course. Its not something I'm bothered about with a meet. Its kind of like a cock. They can do what they want with it as long as they don't try and ram it down my throat

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I don't call it a religion but I follow a spiritual path, yes. I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade anybody else to follow it and I only talk about it if asked directly."

similar ish for me, i have respect for those who do good for others less fortunate regardless of whether that's under the influence of religion or not..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agnostic, brought up by pagans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm Catholic. Convent school educated, the lot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have always said that I wasn't blessed with the gift of faith, to anyone who has asked me if I believe in God, and then ask them not to press me on the subject, most don't, but you will always get that one arrogant knob who thinks I can be converted, those conversations never end well for them, as they walk away questioning their own faith

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I don't call it a religion but I follow a spiritual path, yes. I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade anybody else to follow it and I only talk about it if asked directly.

similar ish for me, i have respect for those who do good for others less fortunate regardless of whether that's under the influence of religion or not..

My aunt was a dyed in the wool socialist who didn't believe in God or religion (until she was dying but thats another story

) and she gave of herself in time and money more than anyone else I know.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I don't call it a religion but I follow a spiritual path, yes. I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade anybody else to follow it and I only talk about it if asked directly.

similar ish for me, i have respect for those who do good for others less fortunate regardless of whether that's under the influence of religion or not..

My aunt was a dyed in the wool socialist who didn't believe in God or religion (until she was dying but thats another story

) and she gave of herself in time and money more than anyone else I know."

it often puzzles me that some will use their religion as the only reason they have a 'moral code' and that others not religious are lacking something in their life..

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Scientolobollocologist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yup, I'm Christian and very much so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am an atheist, heaven and hell don't exist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agnostic myself, you can have faith without the guilt trip that the church has put on people for hundreds of years. Life is for living so enjoy it......

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Agnostic myself, you can have faith without the guilt trip that the church has put on people for hundreds of years. Life is for living so enjoy it......

Like how you've put that! Its like you can be a good person without following a religion. Morals and kindess aren't religious.

One Christian and one Buddhist here

Oooo interesting! Is the Fab lifestyle not a bit against the rules though?"

Well no one follows ALL the rules, it's impossible, especially in the modern world. For example have you ever seen the Archbishop of Canterbury stone to death an adulterer, or kill someone for picking up sticks on the sabbath or for disrespecting their parents?

So instead of trying to follow every single rules, I try to live in the spirit of Jesus. By this I mean be kind to people I meet, to work for the benefit of others, put the needs of others before the needs of my own, and to try to make the world a better place when I leave it, than when I found it. Obviously some people do this without religion, but I find that it helps to steer me in the right direction. Also I like to believe that there is an after life, which is different to non spirtual people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We don't need a bible, just one phrase

Try not to be a cunt

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

"We don't need a bible, just one phrase

Try not to be a cunt

Probably the most important advice ever.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Can I tell you about my Lord and Saviour Ashtaroth?

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By *xoticloverMan
over a year ago

newcastle

Spiritual but not religious...Religion does not make any sense to me. All religions are man made...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agnostic myself, you can have faith without the guilt trip that the church has put on people for hundreds of years. Life is for living so enjoy it......

Like how you've put that! Its like you can be a good person without following a religion. Morals and kindess aren't religious.

One Christian and one Buddhist here

Oooo interesting! Is the Fab lifestyle not a bit against the rules though?

Is that more a moral standpoint than a religious one, on the whole?

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"I was just on the bus home and a cute American guy asks if he can sit down next to me. I'm thinking score! We start chatting about random things like the Nandos takeaway I had and the weather today. Then he starts to bring the conversation towards an obvious goal and get a little black book out of his pocket ... turns on he's a Mormon and wanted to talk to me about it lol.

Maybe could have converted him

Anyway, I'm just interested in knowing if any Fabbers are religious. It does seem like the sort of thing that would be frowned upon! But then I guess that's what confession is for

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. Yes . I am an Anglican and religion has achieved many good things in life .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"Agnostic myself, you can have faith without the guilt trip that the church has put on people for hundreds of years. Life is for living so enjoy it......

Like how you've put that! Its like you can be a good person without following a religion. Morals and kindess aren't religious.

One Christian and one Buddhist here

Oooo interesting! Is the Fab lifestyle not a bit against the rules though?

"
. A good post . I prefer to judge the churches on all the good things that they have achieved as opposed to a few bad points

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours"
. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours"

I think all religions are untrue, there are no gods (it makes no sense), but no.

People would still be awful to each other even if religion vanished tomorrow. They would just find another excuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My Facebook religion is Jedi, my 'official' religion is c of e, however since last year and I started going to church 'because I thought it would be a great idea' and they gave me some 'blessed code thingy' to go at the top of my front door and all I got was misery, I've kind of stop believing all that stuff and just go with the flow of my life now, if that makes sense?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours"

The root of all evil is 25.8069758011

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours

I think all religions are untrue, there are no gods (it makes no sense), but no.

People would still be awful to each other even if religion vanished tomorrow. They would just find another excuse.

Exactly. They'd just use something else to validate their poor behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours"

*Humans* are the root cause of lots of things that are wrong in this world of ours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place . "

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

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By *aucy tiggerWoman
over a year ago

Back where I belong

Part atheist, part Jedi, part Buddhist - depends on the time of year and day of week xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours

*Humans* are the root cause of lots of things that are wrong in this world of ours."

yeah, 'radicalised humans'

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By *lipperyWhenWet!Couple
over a year ago

Rochester

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Merton

Yet most on here celebrate xmas y'all need jesus. Jk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Athiest

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By *emaleinthedarkWoman
over a year ago

London

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours"

No. It's people.

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By *emaleinthedarkWoman
over a year ago

London

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours

*Humans* are the root cause of lots of things that are wrong in this world of ours."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours

No. It's people."

Yeah people who murder, rape and terrorise in the name of religion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours

No. It's people.

Yeah people who murder, rape and terrorise in the name of religion"

And the people who murder, rape, and terrorise *not* in the name of religion.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

All religions are home made and smell of the old men who made them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was baptised and raised catholic but questioned it all throughout childhood especially when I had to learn the catcism, I quit doing my first holy communion at the first confession point and have been of no religion since then however recently I've been reading a lot of translations from the Sumerian tablets and I'm certain all religions are based on what they wrote about the ananu gods who came to earth and created us and I find that fascinating texts from 4000 years ago and longer detailing ivf treatment and celestial chariots and allsorts of other stuff, wouldn't say that's my religion now but it certainly makes the most sense, tells the classic bible tales we all know too like Adam and eve and Noah's ark and so on.

Anyway I'll stop rambling now haha.

Peach

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was baptised and raised catholic but questioned it all throughout childhood especially when I had to learn the caticism, I quit doing my first holy communion at the first confession point and have been of no religion since then however recently I've been reading a lot of translations from the Sumerian tablets and I'm certain all religions are based on what they wrote about the ananu gods who came to earth and created us and I find that fascinating texts from 4000 years ago and longer detailing ivf treatment and celestial chariots and allsorts of other stuff, wouldn't say that's my religion now but it certainly makes the most sense, tells the classic bible tales we all know too like Adam and eve and Noah's ark and so on.

Anyway I'll stop rambling now haha.

Peach"

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By *igerandKittenCouple
over a year ago

London

One Sikh one Athiest but two very happy people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm an atheist to my core. I've no time for religions or religious people and I don't apologise for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world"

Please tell us about the religious causes of world war two?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe could have converted him

Anyway, I'm just interested in knowing if any Fabbers are religious. It does seem like the sort of thing that would be frowned upon! But then I guess that's what confession is for

thank god for making me an atheist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a pagan. Xx

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world"

So when the Soviet Union takes over territory, it becuase of their religious beliefs?

One learns something new here everyday

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By *lacksausageMan
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport

"My family is Catholic........ I'm clearly not but I respect them and behave discreetly

I would give an arm to tap that lovely "catholic" booty of yours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I tell you about my Lord and Saviour Ashtaroth?

He's a sweetheart but has terrible breath

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By *errynjuneCouple
over a year ago

Barnsley

"I'm an atheist to my core. I've no time for religions or religious people and I don't apologise for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a pagan. Xx"

Merry meet honey x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We don't need a bible, just one phrase

Try not to be a cunt

Probably the most important advice ever."

Definitely one everyone should follow

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By *lacksausageMan
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport

Well, I grew up with an abundance of religion. One thing I have struggled to come to terms with is that there is a loving and FAIR God who created all people but CHOSE Israelites as HIS OWN.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours

*Humans* are the root cause of lots of things that are wrong in this world of ours.

yeah, 'radicalised humans'"

Religion or -isms have frequently been an excuse for Millenarianism.

It's just whatever toot you decide to dress your murder up in.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"We don't need a bible, just one phrase

Try not to be a cunt

Probably the most important advice ever.

Definitely one everyone should follow

My little old lady friend™ has a poster in her kitchen with the Buddha in the classic pose, with the words:

"Buddha says, Try not to be a cunt."

Wise words.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I'm a proud Christian (Catholic) and I do believe that my faith helps me to be a better person than I would be without it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well, I grew up with an abundance of religion. One thing I have struggled to come to terms with is that there is a loving and FAIR God who created all people but CHOSE Israelites as HIS OWN. "

When I have a question like this I always turn to internet forums for their infinite wisdom, some people here are so clever they can boil a complex issue like religion into a one line judgement. I'd much rather listen to them than ask someone who has actually studied these issues like a priest, rabbi or imam.

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton

Here is how I think it all started there was some bloke[ Lets call him Bill just for this story] maybe slightly intoxicated or just not quite right in the head, He thought that some one spoke to him in a vision maybe they did maybe they didn't ? so he goes and tells his mate {Terry} that someone called god spoke to him and told me we must do good and give offerings to him like food and other valuables and he will make sure we all have good harvests and happy lives . So they left a few offerings for him and they happened to have a great year . So they spread the word and everyone wanted a piece of this good fortune but they had to go through Bill to give their offerings. So Bill thought this is great look at all the gear I've got, cushty little number this I'll spin them all a bit more bullshit get some more stuff . So Terry notices all this stuff that Bills getting and wants in on it so Bill think yer can't do no harm to much for me to handle and a few more mates get in on the act . Well all's going lovely until Terry thinks I want a bigger slice of the cake ,so he invents a story that he has had a vision but his was from someone called Allah and the split was done religion was started and with this the struggle for power over the people ?

Purely fiction I know but it could be true .

John

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world"

Really? Ukraine? The Iraq war? Afghanistan? Daesh and the wider Syrian civil war? WWII? Korea? Vietnam? Falklands? Suez? WWI? Sierra Leone? Somalia?

Actually, instead of me listing the wars that AREN'T caused by religion, why dont you tell me which ones have been, in say the last 100 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

Really? Ukraine? The Iraq war? Afghanistan? Daesh and the wider Syrian civil war? WWII? Korea? Vietnam? Falklands? Suez? WWI? Sierra Leone? Somalia?

Actually, instead of me listing the wars that AREN'T caused by religion, why dont you tell me which ones have been, in say the last 100 years. "

Ironically most of the ones that happened over 100 years ago were happening before the seperation of church and state, so I'm always interested how such scholars manage to divide the two so easily and apportion the blame on one side at a time when being an atheist bishop wasn't a contradiction in terms.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

So when the Soviet Union takes over territory, it becuase of their religious beliefs?

One learns something new here everyday"

The Soviet Union?

Was 1989 just a figment of the worlds' imagination?

To answer the OP though: Atheist, although people have assumed that I am a pagan because of my tattoos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only thing worse than someone trying to convert you to their religion, is someone trying to tell you how not having religion is better.

The fact is, religion has given the world more than it has taken away. Nearly every great scientific and artistic leap forward taken by man was done so by religious people searching for god.

In fact the most amazing minds the world has ever known have all been religious.

I know I am more blown away by the compossers of old to the justin biebers, to the painters of old to banksy. To the scientists of old to the engineers of the iphone.

Without religion the things people do and make loses it soul.

As for the old argument that religion starts wars, well thats not really true. Money, greed, land, power start wars.

When all of Europe was catholic france and england went to war, if you think Ireland and England had a problem over religion its short sighted, if you think the catholics marched on the muslim world for religion, then you need to realise they marched for money and power. Even ISIS largely operate just for money, they make over 800 million dollars a year, the local war lords are paid well.

I cant think of a single conflict in the history of man that was purely religious. When it comes to war we draw a line in the sand "Them" vs "Us" and often one of the main differences, but not always, is religion. We can then use this to identify the enemy. But its a load of nonsense, we just want their land, their money, their resources.

I'm atheist, but I recognise that religion is an amazing thing.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

So when the Soviet Union takes over territory, it becuase of their religious beliefs?

One learns something new here everyday

The Soviet Union?

Was 1989 just a figment of the worlds' imagination?

To answer the OP though: Atheist, although people have assumed that I am a pagan because of my tattoos. "

Well did the soviet union invade Afghanistan for religious reasons or not?

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over a year ago

"We don't need a bible, just one phrase

Try not to be a cunt

I keep trying but fail every time

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm catholic and take faith and look to faith when I am in need especially. I look to god for peace, reassurance and healing. I really don't understand you comment!????

I don't believe that everything in the bible actually happened. But I believe the teachings are there to teach moral. For respect, well being, love and communion.

Everyone to their own. I dont preach. But I don't think your comment is valid as it is seriously flawed and unresearched

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

So when the Soviet Union takes over territory, it becuase of their religious beliefs?

One learns something new here everyday

The Soviet Union?

Was 1989 just a figment of the worlds' imagination?

To answer the OP though: Atheist, although people have assumed that I am a pagan because of my tattoos.

Well did the soviet union invade Afghanistan for religious reasons or not? "

Course not - but that wasn't my point.

The post is in the present tense, and the USSR no longer exists.

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over a year ago

"We don't need a bible, just one phrase

Try not to be a cunt

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over a year ago

Aren't folk NOT supposed to covet people's wives? (saying that the king James bible says pork is unclean and not to be eaten and most happily ignore that bit)

Just a thought...

I don't know enough to be sure how being actively religious effects how people can behave in this lifestyle but i'd be interested in hearing how the two fit together

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over a year ago

"The only thing worse than someone trying to convert you to their religion, is someone trying to tell you how not having religion is better.

The fact is, religion has given the world more than it has taken away. Nearly every great scientific and artistic leap forward taken by man was done so by religious people searching for god.

In fact the most amazing minds the world has ever known have all been religious.

I know I am more blown away by the compossers of old to the justin biebers, to the painters of old to banksy. To the scientists of old to the engineers of the iphone.

Without religion the things people do and make loses it soul.

As for the old argument that religion starts wars, well thats not really true. Money, greed, land, power start wars.

I'm atheist, but I recognise that religion is an amazing thing."

Goodness that was a decent response. I almost fell over! See you can be an atheist without making up bullshit to justify your position.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a poochist , he made me type this lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Aren't folk NOT supposed to covet people's wives? (saying that the king James bible says pork is unclean and not to be eaten and most happily ignore that bit)

Just a thought...

I don't know enough to be sure how being actively religious effects how people can behave in this lifestyle but i'd be interested in hearing how the two fit together

Well you could start by reading CLCC's explanation earlier that I felt was pretty clear. If that doesn't satisfy you then go ask a priest where consentual adultery ranks among all the things you could do wrong

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I don't call it a religion but I follow a spiritual path, yes. I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade anybody else to follow it and I only talk about it if asked directly."

Agree

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I am a poochist , he made me type this lol.

Thank goodness for the letter 'c'

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over a year ago

"Aren't folk NOT supposed to covet people's wives? (saying that the king James bible says pork is unclean and not to be eaten and most happily ignore that bit)

Just a thought...

I don't know enough to be sure how being actively religious effects how people can behave in this lifestyle but i'd be interested in hearing how the two fit together

Didn't read the whole thread.

Speaking of thread, bible says we can't wear mixed fabric! That's me stuffed...and I can eat pork, or lie with another man....

By 'eck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Aren't folk NOT supposed to covet people's wives? (saying that the king James bible says pork is unclean and not to be eaten and most happily ignore that bit)

Just a thought...

I don't know enough to be sure how being actively religious effects how people can behave in this lifestyle but i'd be interested in hearing how the two fit together

Didn't read the whole thread.

Speaking of thread, bible says we can't wear mixed fabric! That's me stuffed...and I can eat pork, or lie with another man....

By 'eck

Well the old testament says that, it says a lot of stuff. Jesus actually had very little to say about sex... it sort of seems like he had more important objectives? Anyway, Jesus = new covenant, old testament = old covenant, therefore Christians shouldn't get too concerned about the old testament, biggest theological mistake the Church ever made was putting that bloody thing as a preface! Most catholic priests openly dislike the bible and would tell you to ignore most of what isn't in the gospels. Believe me, there's not much about sex in the gospels...

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over a year ago

"Aren't folk NOT supposed to covet people's wives? (saying that the king James bible says pork is unclean and not to be eaten and most happily ignore that bit)

Just a thought...

I don't know enough to be sure how being actively religious effects how people can behave in this lifestyle but i'd be interested in hearing how the two fit together

Didn't read the whole thread.

Speaking of thread, bible says we can't wear mixed fabric! That's me stuffed...and I can eat pork, or lie with another man....

By 'eck

Maybe, but it's all the other rules in there.

I'll stay as I am, I won't join a religion just to pick out and follow the bits I like and ignore the bits I don't...

Seems religion is good at turning a blind eye to it's own written rules :/

I dunno, this subject isn't my forte but having barely scratched the surface it's full of contradictions and rules that conveniently don't apply now

I dunno, perhaps it's just me being a bit ignorant on the subject

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over a year ago

"Aren't folk NOT supposed to covet people's wives? (saying that the king James bible says pork is unclean and not to be eaten and most happily ignore that bit)

Just a thought...

I don't know enough to be sure how being actively religious effects how people can behave in this lifestyle but i'd be interested in hearing how the two fit together

Didn't read the whole thread.

Speaking of thread, bible says we can't wear mixed fabric! That's me stuffed...and I can eat pork, or lie with another man....

By 'eck

Exactly this.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Aren't folk NOT supposed to covet people's wives? (saying that the king James bible says pork is unclean and not to be eaten and most happily ignore that bit)

Just a thought...

I don't know enough to be sure how being actively religious effects how people can behave in this lifestyle but i'd be interested in hearing how the two fit together

Didn't read the whole thread.

Speaking of thread, bible says we can't wear mixed fabric! That's me stuffed...and I can eat pork, or lie with another man....

By 'eck

Maybe, but it's all the other rules in there.

I'll stay as I am, I won't join a religion just to pick out and follow the bits I like and ignore the bits I don't...

Seems religion is good at turning a blind eye to it's own written rules :/

I dunno, this subject isn't my forte but having barely scratched the surface it's full of contradictions and rules that conveniently don't apply now

I dunno, perhaps it's just me being a bit ignorant on the subject "

As far as I am concerned, the implications of religion have more to do with the acts of the organisation than its followers.

Ergo, not a fan. You can argue bible semantics all day to condone or disapprove of almost any behaviour, so you might as well judge the various churches by their actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Aren't folk NOT supposed to covet people's wives? (saying that the king James bible says pork is unclean and not to be eaten and most happily ignore that bit)

Just a thought...

I don't know enough to be sure how being actively religious effects how people can behave in this lifestyle but i'd be interested in hearing how the two fit together

Didn't read the whole thread.

Speaking of thread, bible says we can't wear mixed fabric! That's me stuffed...and I can eat pork, or lie with another man....

By 'eck

Maybe, but it's all the other rules in there.

I'll stay as I am, I won't join a religion just to pick out and follow the bits I like and ignore the bits I don't...

Seems religion is good at turning a blind eye to it's own written rules :/

I dunno, this subject isn't my forte but having barely scratched the surface it's full of contradictions and rules that conveniently don't apply now

I dunno, perhaps it's just me being a bit ignorant on the subject "

I have no interesting in trying to change what you believe, you seem reasonable and you're not sprouting rubbish (still waiting to hear about how WW2 was started by religion though). I was very complimentary about an atheist above who stated his position well.

I think contradiction is part of the human condition. Religion isn't my specialist subject, I know some 101 facts but history and economics are my mastermind subjects. Quite a few people who consider themselves to have the "rational" view on religion have some very irrational political views on here. That's a contradiction in my opinion.

It's a very western thing to be preoccupied with rules, other parts of the world - not so much.

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

the force is strong on this web site

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

I'm not remotely religious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Aren't folk NOT supposed to covet people's wives? (saying that the king James bible says pork is unclean and not to be eaten and most happily ignore that bit)

Just a thought...

I don't know enough to be sure how being actively religious effects how people can behave in this lifestyle but i'd be interested in hearing how the two fit together

Didn't read the whole thread.

Speaking of thread, bible says we can't wear mixed fabric! That's me stuffed...and I can eat pork, or lie with another man....

By 'eck

Maybe, but it's all the other rules in there.

I'll stay as I am, I won't join a religion just to pick out and follow the bits I like and ignore the bits I don't...

Seems religion is good at turning a blind eye to it's own written rules :/

I dunno, this subject isn't my forte but having barely scratched the surface it's full of contradictions and rules that conveniently don't apply now

I dunno, perhaps it's just me being a bit ignorant on the subject

It's a very western thing to be preoccupied with rules, other parts of the world - not so much. "

I wasn't suggesting you were

As I say, I know very little about it so I'm just kinda sounding stuff out as I go on this thread...

I think I have a rational view on it, my view being I don't know alot...

It's just the way I see things as I read them.

I always believed that rules were quite strong on religion, and not subject to changes by it's followers, that would be like playing golf and changing a rule half way through the game because it suited you more now? (bad analogy I know)

I was brought up Greek orthodox, a religion from the rest of the world, and they're pretty damned strict on stuff.

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I was brought up Greek orthodox, a religion from the rest of the world, and they're pretty damned strict on stuff. "

To be honest I can't imagine an organisation that survives without adapting, furthermore, not all rules are equally important. You can try this yourself; go to a Catholic confession and tell the priest you murdered a man and see what response you get. Got back the next day, change your accent and tell him you are a swinger and a I bet he says "thank fuck for that, we had a murderer in here yesterday"

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By *izzyRascal OP Woman
over a year ago

North Hants

"We don't need a bible, just one phrase

Try not to be a cunt

Probably the most important advice ever.

Definitely one everyone should follow

My little old lady friend™ has a poster in her kitchen with the Buddha in the classic pose, with the words:

"Buddha says, Try not to be a cunt."

Wise words. "

Simple yet to the point

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By *izzyRascal OP Woman
over a year ago

North Hants

"The only thing worse than someone trying to convert you to their religion, is someone trying to tell you how not having religion is better.

The fact is, religion has given the world more than it has taken away. Nearly every great scientific and artistic leap forward taken by man was done so by religious people searching for god.

In fact the most amazing minds the world has ever known have all been religious.

I know I am more blown away by the compossers of old to the justin biebers, to the painters of old to banksy. To the scientists of old to the engineers of the iphone.

Without religion the things people do and make loses it soul.

As for the old argument that religion starts wars, well thats not really true. Money, greed, land, power start wars.

I'm atheist, but I recognise that religion is an amazing thing."

Great response!

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over a year ago

"We don't need a bible, just one phrase

Try not to be a cunt

Probably the most important advice ever.

Definitely one everyone should follow

My little old lady friend™ has a poster in her kitchen with the Buddha in the classic pose, with the words:

"Buddha says, Try not to be a cunt."

Wise words.

Simple yet to the point"

The problem is that nobody really identifies as being a cunt do they. Hitlers CV probably said "calculated risk taker, fairly reasonable guy with strong personal beliefs". As they say, any man that doesn't list 'masturbation' under 'hobbies' is a liar. It's like when fab profiles say "no timewasters please" - do they expect someone to go "oh yeah I'm a timewaster, best not message them"?

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over a year ago

I was brought up Greek orthodox, a religion from the rest of the world, and they're pretty damned strict on stuff.

Who decided which rules were less important?

I dunno...there's something deep down that just screams 'sham' to me....

It's too flim flam and watery...

You know when you just know something is a scam?

And which religion is right?

They all claim to be...

Again, that's my gut instinct, and my gut I believe more than any book/scripture etc...

There's just nothing that makes sense or makes me believe..

I guess that's my part said really, it's not for me...

If it makes others feel better then run with it, billions of people do and are happy because of it so

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over a year ago

I was brought up Greek orthodox, a religion from the rest of the world, and they're pretty damned strict on stuff.

Who decided which rules were less important?

I dunno...there's something deep down that just screams 'sham' to me....

It's too flim flam and watery...

You know when you just know something is a scam?

And which religion is right?

They all claim to be...

Again, that's my gut instinct, and my gut I believe more than any book/scripture etc...

There's just nothing that makes sense or makes me believe..

I guess that's my part said really, it's not for me...

If it makes others feel better then run with it, billions of people do and are happy because of it so

Who decides which rules are more important? The same people who decided which books made it into the bible and which ones didn't! Jesus didn't write it you know!

I can't tell you which is right and which is wrong? It's like asking me which politician is it right to vote for and which is wrong - depends on your personal values.

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By *rSuave88Man
over a year ago

Mirfield

+1 sikh here

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over a year ago

I was brought up Greek orthodox, a religion from the rest of the world, and they're pretty damned strict on stuff.

Who decided which rules were less important?

I dunno...there's something deep down that just screams 'sham' to me....

It's too flim flam and watery...

You know when you just know something is a scam?

And which religion is right?

They all claim to be...

Again, that's my gut instinct, and my gut I believe more than any book/scripture etc...

There's just nothing that makes sense or makes me believe..

I guess that's my part said really, it's not for me...

If it makes others feel better then run with it, billions of people do and are happy because of it so

Who decides which rules are more important? The same people who decided which books made it into the bible and which ones didn't! Jesus didn't write it you know!

I can't tell you which is right and which is wrong? It's like asking me which politician is it right to vote for and which is wrong - depends on your personal values. "

sorry, I wasn't asking for answers, the questions were more rhetorical than me expecting you to know...I'm treating you as a sounding board almost.

That's another thing I suppose...

We only know the bits we know and what's made it this far if that's made sense...somebody has decided what we should hear and what we shouldn't and put it in a book which makes it man made to my eyes and little to do with a god.

It feels more like a system of control, man made books and rules for other men to follow.

and I guess nobody can tell me which is right, it's just what one person chooses to believe over another.

That plus all the bits about following god and if you don't do the right thing you go to hell or whatever...BUT he loves you...that just sounds like an abusive relationship!

But again, one I don't understand so my argument there is founded on very little I admit.

I don't think I'll ever truly understand it...

Bloody interesting topic of discussion though

May buy a bible and have a read

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over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

So when the Soviet Union takes over territory, it becuase of their religious beliefs?

One learns something new here everyday"

How can something that does not exist take over anything? It has been almost 30 years, come on!

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over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

So when the Soviet Union takes over territory, it becuase of their religious beliefs?

One learns something new here everyday

The Soviet Union?

Was 1989 just a figment of the worlds' imagination?

To answer the OP though: Atheist, although people have assumed that I am a pagan because of my tattoos. "

1991-1992.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well, I grew up with an abundance of religion. One thing I have struggled to come to terms with is that there is a loving and FAIR God who created all people but CHOSE Israelites as HIS OWN. "

Brother!

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

As Christopher Hitchens said:

"That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

"As Christopher Hitchens said:

"That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.""

Droll. Sums up all religion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As Christopher Hitchens said:

"That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.""

Ah yes, the guy who gets whooped at debating by his own brother!

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"As Christopher Hitchens said:

"That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

Ah yes, the guy who gets whooped at debating by his own brother!"

He's dead; I imagine his brother has free-rein at the dinner table

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

100% pagan here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep, Anglican and regular churchgoer here

Charlotte

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not religious, I was Christened and went to a C of E school both not by choice.

If we have a kid, they won't be Christened and won't be brought up religious. They will however be taught right from wrong and morals, like has been said you don't need a religion to do that.

If they grew up and wanted to take religion then that would be fine by me.

I do wonder how many people would take up religion if they wasn't born into it.

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By *jandjbCouple
over a year ago

Nr Manchester

I believe in Father Christmas

And fairies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Weddings christenings and funerals

That's all the churching I do

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By *lacksausageMan
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport

Try not to be a cunt - BUDDHA

Don't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you - BLACKSAUSAGE.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religion? A firm of social control & brainwashing.

The amount of people that actually *believe* the various religious texts staggers me. It's when people quote, for example the Bible, as like some sort of proof for something that I get astounded.

Still brainwashing is everywhere isn't it? Some people also believe what their governments tell them for example ...

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I was raised a Seventh Day Adventist, biggest hypocrites going. I believe in a "higher power" but it doesn't stop me being hedonistic.

It's hard to shake a religious background. Ironically, my upbringing has given me the strength to deal with the tragedies of my life, without setting foot in a church or praying.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Generally these threads are never started by people pushing religion.

I tend to find society pushes atheism at me far more than the odd knock on the door from the latter day Saints.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

officially im C of E

i am a selfish believer if im in need or someone i know is suffering i will subconciously ask for help..

i dont go to church or regularly pray. At times i show good will gestures and believe them to be christian values. i learnt alot from the bible when i used to read it to a elderly client of mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not religious, I was Christened and went to a C of E school both not by choice.

If we have a kid, they won't be Christened and won't be brought up religious. They will however be taught right from wrong and morals, like has been said you don't need a religion to do that.

If they grew up and wanted to take religion then that would be fine by me.

I do wonder how many people would take up religion if they wasn't born into it. "

I chose to go to catholic school at 11 and found that when I left at 18 I chose to continue being religious.

I understand not everyone gets that choice. And I certainly wasn't brainwashed since being non-Catholic meant I could choose if I wanted to attend religious events at school.

People say we're all stupid and brainwashed into it. Some of us are actually reasonably intelligent adults who have thought long and hard about theology and have decided what is right for *us*.

I also think those that mock people for believing in God/s are childish and immature. They must be so insecure that they have to attack others personal beliefs. Attack the politics or the teachings - but don't attack my faith. That's not cool, and it makes you look like a cunt.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I'm not religious, I was Christened and went to a C of E school both not by choice.

If we have a kid, they won't be Christened and won't be brought up religious. They will however be taught right from wrong and morals, like has been said you don't need a religion to do that.

If they grew up and wanted to take religion then that would be fine by me.

I do wonder how many people would take up religion if they wasn't born into it. "

My youngest is deeply religious. My other half finds it funny us heading off to a swingers club whilst my daughter and her boyfriend head off to all night prayer.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

So when the Soviet Union takes over territory, it becuase of their religious beliefs?

One learns something new here everyday

The Soviet Union?

Was 1989 just a figment of the worlds' imagination?

To answer the OP though: Atheist, although people have assumed that I am a pagan because of my tattoos.

Well did the soviet union invade Afghanistan for religious reasons or not?

Course not - but that wasn't my point.

The post is in the present tense, and the USSR no longer exists. "

But it did till 1980-something. And they did invade Afganistan. Which religious belief prompted them to do so?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not religious, I was Christened and went to a C of E school both not by choice.

If we have a kid, they won't be Christened and won't be brought up religious. They will however be taught right from wrong and morals, like has been said you don't need a religion to do that.

If they grew up and wanted to take religion then that would be fine by me.

I do wonder how many people would take up religion if they wasn't born into it.

I chose to go to catholic school at 11 and found that when I left at 18 I chose to continue being religious.

I understand not everyone gets that choice. And I certainly wasn't brainwashed since being non-Catholic meant I could choose if I wanted to attend religious events at school.

People say we're all stupid and brainwashed into it. Some of us are actually reasonably intelligent adults who have thought long and hard about theology and have decided what is right for *us*.

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over a year ago

I think the problem with religion is that it's been left to interpretation by man, and we as the human race are flawed, we only see what we want to see, and understand what we are capable of understanding, there is something in the bible that says that Jesus said that it is easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle, than it is for a rich man to pass into the kingdom of heaven, in that case the Vatican better have a look round at all the riches it owns and start off loading some, maybe sell it off to help feed clothe and educate the poor of this world, and let's face it, the money that is tied up in the Vatican City could quite easily achieve this many times over.

Religion, a good idea that was turned into something ugly by men who think they know more than anyone else, only love is universal, love is the key to nirvana, heaven, or paradise what ever you want to call it, because it's love that has allowed gay marriage, so it looks like love of our fellow human beings, is stronger than any religious text that is out of date and out of touch with the modern world

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"I'm not religious, I was Christened and went to a C of E school both not by choice.

If we have a kid, they won't be Christened and won't be brought up religious. They will however be taught right from wrong and morals, like has been said you don't need a religion to do that.

If they grew up and wanted to take religion then that would be fine by me.

I do wonder how many people would take up religion if they wasn't born into it.

I chose to go to catholic school at 11 and found that when I left at 18 I chose to continue being religious.

I understand not everyone gets that choice. And I certainly wasn't brainwashed since being non-Catholic meant I could choose if I wanted to attend religious events at school.

People say we're all stupid and brainwashed into it. Some of us are actually reasonably intelligent adults who have thought long and hard about theology and have decided what is right for *us*.

Thank you; xxx

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"I'm not religious, I was Christened and went to a C of E school both not by choice.

If we have a kid, they won't be Christened and won't be brought up religious. They will however be taught right from wrong and morals, like has been said you don't need a religion to do that.

If they grew up and wanted to take religion then that would be fine by me.

I do wonder how many people would take up religion if they wasn't born into it.

I chose to go to catholic school at 11 and found that when I left at 18 I chose to continue being religious.

I understand not everyone gets that choice. And I certainly wasn't brainwashed since being non-Catholic meant I could choose if I wanted to attend religious events at school.

People say we're all stupid and brainwashed into it. Some of us are actually reasonably intelligent adults who have thought long and hard about theology and have decided what is right for *us*.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I'm not religious, I was Christened and went to a C of E school both not by choice.

If we have a kid, they won't be Christened and won't be brought up religious. They will however be taught right from wrong and morals, like has been said you don't need a religion to do that.

If they grew up and wanted to take religion then that would be fine by me.

I do wonder how many people would take up religion if they wasn't born into it. "

I understand that these dsys you dont need to believe in any particular religion to know right from wrong and have morals. But as a little thought experiment, imagine if religion had never existed. Do you think that your morals and idea of what is wrong or right would be exactly the same?

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull

Maybe could have converted him

Anyway, I'm just interested in knowing if any Fabbers are religious. It does seem like the sort of thing that would be frowned upon! But then I guess that's what confession is for

love these threads, religious people 'we get something from it, makes us feel good etc' atheist 'its all a load of bollocks' mmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Generally these threads are never started by people pushing religion.

I tend to find society pushes atheism at me far more than the odd knock on the door from the latter day Saints.

There's quite a lot of evidence on this thread to support that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Generally these threads are never started by people pushing religion.

I tend to find society pushes atheism at me far more than the odd knock on the door from the latter day Saints.

There's quite a lot of evidence on this thread to support that!"
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Evidence evidence evidence...

If only people went off evidence

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By *izzyRascal OP Woman
over a year ago

North Hants

"Generally these threads are never started by people pushing religion.

I tend to find society pushes atheism at me far more than the odd knock on the door from the latter day Saints."

I know exactly what you mean! Though agnostic myself I think everyone should be free to follow their own beliefs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I went to a c of e school and it put me off religion. I just try to be nice.

That's what the bible boiled down to for me, the rest was just confusing contradictory padding.

Cool story though.

I think Jesus may have existed but not as a son of God but like an old school version of derren Brown

a cheeky blagger that was good with a chisel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I also think those that mock people for believing in God/s are childish and immature. They must be so insecure that they have to attack others personal beliefs. Attack the politics or the teachings - but don't attack my faith. That's not cool, and it makes you look like a cunt."

This.

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

Pastafarian.

I believe in the flying spaghetti monster, blessed be his noodly appendages.

It's a marvellous faith, with the kind of moral standards I can keep. Flimsy moral standards.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

So when the Soviet Union takes over territory, it becuase of their religious beliefs?

One learns something new here everyday

The Soviet Union?

Was 1989 just a figment of the worlds' imagination?

To answer the OP though: Atheist, although people have assumed that I am a pagan because of my tattoos.

1991-1992."

Yes, I know that the official collapse of the USSR was then.....

I mentioned 1989 for a reason.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

So when the Soviet Union takes over territory, it becuase of their religious beliefs?

One learns something new here everyday

The Soviet Union?

Was 1989 just a figment of the worlds' imagination?

To answer the OP though: Atheist, although people have assumed that I am a pagan because of my tattoos.

Well did the soviet union invade Afghanistan for religious reasons or not?

Course not - but that wasn't my point.

The post is in the present tense, and the USSR no longer exists.

But it did till 1980-something. And they did invade Afganistan. Which religious belief prompted them to do so?"

Re-read my post - especially the bit where I agree with you.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

"I'm not religious, I was Christened and went to a C of E school both not by choice.

If we have a kid, they won't be Christened and won't be brought up religious. They will however be taught right from wrong and morals, like has been said you don't need a religion to do that.

If they grew up and wanted to take religion then that would be fine by me.

I do wonder how many people would take up religion if they wasn't born into it.

Well a lot of people would be less keen on genital mutilation and chucking gays off buildings.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Not really. Religious faith is up for mocking must like every other idea. We take the piss out of people for being Tories, or vegetarians, or Liverpool fans - your religion is no different.

Besides, if you believe you have a personal relationship with an omnipotent being, why would you care what people say about it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me I'm a spiritualist but follow no actual religion was born c of e but can't remember the last time I went to a c of e church.

I do go to the little church in St Austell when I go home

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Not really. Religious faith is up for mocking must like every other idea. We take the piss out of people for being Tories, or vegetarians, or Liverpool fans - your religion is no different.

Besides, if you believe you have a personal relationship with an omnipotent being, why would you care what people say about it?"

But like she said; it will stop one from looking like a cunt

But maybe cunts don't care what people say about them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really. Religious faith is up for mocking must like every other idea. We take the piss out of people for being Tories, or vegetarians, or Liverpool fans - your religion is no different.

Besides, if you believe you have a personal relationship with an omnipotent being, why would you care what people say about it?"

Mock away.

It's akin to 'attack the idea, not the person'. I'd never mock someone for supporting the Tory's or being a meat eater, but I might question their views and values, and pick apart the documenta that they believe in.

I mean yeah, you can do what you want. But just taking the piss out of someone for their personal views makes you look like an ignorant twat, who is incapable of actually having an adult discussion.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

this went well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"this went well "

Cup of tea and a slice of cake would go down well at this point

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Speaking purely personally, I have never had the slightest interest in following any religion. From a very early age I was arguing the logic (or lack thereof) as I see it in the bible with clergy. I have no need of a belief in a spirit being nor of an afterlife. I am not a sheep and require no shepherd. I genuinely feel that people should do good things because they want to, not because they feel obliged to in order to please a spirit being and get into the good seats in heaven (or avoid hell).

I do find religions and religious beliefs curious and sometimes interesting. And I find myself feeling very uncomfortable in places of worship while finding some of them marvellous buildings....from the mad design of Gaudi's Sagrada Familia to the splendour of York Minster or the simpleness of a 1000 year old village church.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religion on Fab? In the words of Tyrion Lannister, "where is the God of Tits and Wine???"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world"

No religion is the excuse they use. It simply gives a platform to bad people sometimes.

I don't particularly believe in any one religion but think most of them have good and bad points.xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religions are the root cause of everything that's wrong in this world of ours. How did you come to that conclusion? Truely religious people make the world a better place .

Religion is a major cause of conflicts all around the world

No religion is the excuse they use. It simply gives a platform to bad people sometimes.

I don't particularly believe in any one religion but think most of them have good and bad points.xx"

Some of us are still waiting to hear how WW2 was caused by religion...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not religious, I was Christened and went to a C of E school both not by choice.

If we have a kid, they won't be Christened and won't be brought up religious. They will however be taught right from wrong and morals, like has been said you don't need a religion to do that.

If they grew up and wanted to take religion then that would be fine by me.

I do wonder how many people would take up religion if they wasn't born into it.

Absolutely, although I can agree things probably would have been a bit different through history without religion...the goalposts tend to move a lot with religion, it's been ok to burn people on the crime of heresy, stone people to death..all in the name of a god.

I don't want or need religion, some people take great comfort in their faith and that's perfectly cool with me. I just choose to have no part in it.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Well a lot of people would be less keen on genital mutilation and chucking gays off buildings."

Genital mutilation is not a religious custom, it's a cultural one. That's why it happens in some countries, and not others, even countries that share the same religion.

Also not all regious people are homophobic, and not all homophobic people are religious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a pagan. Not the drag a goat into the woods kind of pagan. Or a "neo" pagan (spits on the ground). Just an old fashioned pagan. Celebrating the turning of the seasons, believing the law of thrice fold return and generally just helping people...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not religious, I was Christened and went to a C of E school both not by choice.

If we have a kid, they won't be Christened and won't be brought up religious. They will however be taught right from wrong and morals, like has been said you don't need a religion to do that.

If they grew up and wanted to take religion then that would be fine by me.

I do wonder how many people would take up religion if they wasn't born into it.

I chose to go to catholic school at 11 and found that when I left at 18 I chose to continue being religious.

I understand not everyone gets that choice. And I certainly wasn't brainwashed since being non-Catholic meant I could choose if I wanted to attend religious events at school.

People say we're all stupid and brainwashed into it. Some of us are actually reasonably intelligent adults who have thought long and hard about theology and have decided what is right for *us*.

Your asserting that your beliefs and faiths have some superiority to others.

I'm afraid to tell you it hasn't!

Just as somebody who has faith that there skin colour makes them better than another's or a belief that a persons sexuality or sex makes them weaker.

Not only should your "faith" be attacked but it must be attacked!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well a lot of people would be less keen on genital mutilation and chucking gays off buildings.

Genital mutilation is not a religious custom, it's a cultural one. That's why it happens in some countries, and not others, even countries that share the same religion.

Also not all regious people are homophobic, and not all homophobic people are religious.

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I think you'll find the Jewish idea of cutting a boys foreskin off is a religious custom!

Genesis 10 14-17!