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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts

I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?"

Yes,,any donation should be what you personally can afford. They should not ask for a specific ammout. Where are they asking for ;£19

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By *hekaiserMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?"

To some people £19 is nothing as they are willing to spend more than that on alcohol alone!

If you dont agree with the requested amount...dont pay...each to their.

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate? Yes,,any donation should be what you personally can afford. They should not ask for a specific ammout. Where are they asking for ;£19 "

just seen it on their TV ad

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Charities should not ASK for any amount.

I'd like to think I do what I can for who I can when I can. I will not be told how much I should be giving to anyone.

It's my bloody money.

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?

To some people £19 is nothing as they are willing to spend more than that on alcohol alone!

If you dont agree with the requested amount...dont pay...each to their."

you seem to miss the point, i did not say i did not agree, the question is in the bit where i asked "if they ask for a lesser amount they would have more people donate"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had some charity knocking my door the other day wanting £10 a month...i think its a bloody cheek! Especially when they dont take no for an answer!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Cancer research the other week I was bloody disgusted with what I witnessed in their door to door approach.

I still haven't forgiven cats protection for phoning me and asking for more money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Saying that though I'm elderly. I might get some back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By putting the amount so high they seem to put off a lot of people.

Yes to some 20 quid is nothing but to most people it's not an insignificant amount of monwy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You see a lot of these adds, I was watching TV the other day, and they were asking for £2 a month to sponsor a child in Africa so they fan get clean drinking water and an education, and one asking for £3 a month to sponsor a tiger.

I'm sorry but there's no contest, I've got two black kids at home, I've never had a tiger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I give to the homeless now and again. I also give 30 a month between different charities. But i dont like to be told the amount.

I give what i can and will ignore something that asks for virtually £20 tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I put two bags of clothes out for them a couple of weeks ago, which they didn't pick up. It annoys me that they ask for stuff then don't make the effort to fetch it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also, the £19 is costed to provide a Christmas box for the needy. It's a specific appeal.

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By *hekaiserMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going. "

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By *hekaiserMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?

To some people £19 is nothing as they are willing to spend more than that on alcohol alone!

If you dont agree with the requested amount...dont pay...each to their.

you seem to miss the point, i did not say i did not agree, the question is in the bit where i asked "if they ask for a lesser amount they would have more people donate""

I got your point!

Even if the requested amount was lower people would not and STILL moan about.

Hence my point..if you dont agree with it, dont pay.

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By *hekaiserMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?

To some people £19 is nothing as they are willing to spend more than that on alcohol alone!

If you dont agree with the requested amount...dont pay...each to their.

you seem to miss the point, i did not say i did not agree, the question is in the bit where i asked "if they ask for a lesser amount they would have more people donate"

I got your point!

Even if the requested amount was lower people would not and STILL moan about.

Hence my point..if you dont agree with it, dont pay.

"

*pay

*it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going. "

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I currently live in a Salvation Army Housing Association flat, so ya can send all yer money to me ta very muchly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising "

Then choose a different charity with smaller overheads

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising

Then choose a different charity with smaller overheads "

It's not the size though. It's the accounts unlike companies as far a simple aware charities are not legally required to publish their numbers

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Funny thing is, I've just worked it out and I've spent more than £19 on my goodie box for the homeless man I know, why because I wanted to, I don't feel pressured to plus I know he will get it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising

Then choose a different charity with smaller overheads "

And also choose a not for profit organisation.

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts


"Funny thing is, I've just worked it out and I've spent more than £19 on my goodie box for the homeless man I know, why because I wanted to, I don't feel pressured to plus I know he will get it.

"

good on you that is what we do too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising

Then choose a different charity with smaller overheads

It's not the size though. It's the accounts unlike companies as far a simple aware charities are not legally required to publish their numbers "

They have to provide annual reports.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

The Salvation Army are a very good charity, they don't waste half as much as the others.

Oxfam seem to have a shop refit every 5 minutes.

I do free work for two small animal charities, that's how I give. Plus to the Sally Army who looked after us after my parents flat burned down and I was just a baby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as most of you know I run a very small charity and we are the worlds worst asking for donations, so much so we did a pledge a pound drive this year, yes one whole

Pound a month, we even hated doing that. Sometimes I think I have the wrong 'hobby!'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You see a lot of these adds, I was watching TV the other day, and they were asking for £2 a month to sponsor a child in Africa so they fan get clean drinking water and an education, and one asking for £3 a month to sponsor a tiger.

I'm sorry but there's no contest, I've got two black kids at home, I've never had a tiger "

I can't help laughing at you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work for a Charitable organisation, and I am being given more cases from the Salvation army to assist with clothing x blanket requests. I myself am grateful for all donations that are brought into my shops, every bit helps regardless of how much is donated. Sad to say not all £19.00 goes to each case...

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"You see a lot of these adds, I was watching TV the other day, and they were asking for £2 a month to sponsor a child in Africa so they fan get clean drinking water and an education, and one asking for £3 a month to sponsor a tiger.

I'm sorry but there's no contest, I've got two black kids at home, I've never had a tiger "

So its your fault those poor homeless tigers need supporting!!! If more people had them as pets, they wouldn't be in this situation!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work for a Charitable organisation, and I am being given more cases from the Salvation army to assist with clothing x blanket requests. I myself am grateful for all donations that are brought into my shops, every bit helps regardless of how much is donated. Sad to say not all £19.00 goes to each case... "

If the full £19 did, the charity would be running at a loss. I think it's entirely expected that not all £19 goes to the box; other costs are incurred.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"as most of you know I run a very small charity and we are the worlds worst asking for donations, so much so we did a pledge a pound drive this year, yes one whole

Pound a month, we even hated doing that. Sometimes I think I have the wrong 'hobby!' "

What does your charity do?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work for a Charitable organisation, and I am being given more cases from the Salvation army to assist with clothing x blanket requests. I myself am grateful for all donations that are brought into my shops, every bit helps regardless of how much is donated. Sad to say not all £19.00 goes to each case...

If the full £19 did, the charity would be running at a loss. I think it's entirely expected that not all £19 goes to the box; other costs are incurred. "

I give out packs to homeless people daily from my shops, each pack contains hat, socks x 4 pairs, 2pairs gloves, 5foil sheets, toothpaste, toothbrush, pen x paper.. Each pack costs my organisation £4.50 per pack, each of my managers run fundraisers during the year to fund these packs.. They are given out all yr round. The Salvation army as like my charity have shops, and collections to assist with their fundraising.. I'm very passionate about my work and it's sad to see so many people needing assistance these days my charities ethos ' turning concern into action '

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work for a Charitable organisation, and I am being given more cases from the Salvation army to assist with clothing x blanket requests. I myself am grateful for all donations that are brought into my shops, every bit helps regardless of how much is donated. Sad to say not all £19.00 goes to each case...

If the full £19 did, the charity would be running at a loss. I think it's entirely expected that not all £19 goes to the box; other costs are incurred.

I give out packs to homeless people daily from my shops, each pack contains hat, socks x 4 pairs, 2pairs gloves, 5foil sheets, toothpaste, toothbrush, pen x paper.. Each pack costs my organisation £4.50 per pack, each of my managers run fundraisers during the year to fund these packs.. They are given out all yr round. The Salvation army as like my charity have shops, and collections to assist with their fundraising.. I'm very passionate about my work and it's sad to see so many people needing assistance these days my charities ethos ' turning concern into action ' "

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I prefer to give what I feel I can spare at that moment.

Sometimes the methods used by charities can be counterproductive. The other week I was asked if I'd like to donate food to a local food bank. I'd not even walked 3' into Tesco's before being asked and it just felt like I'd been ambushed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"as most of you know I run a very small charity and we are the worlds worst asking for donations, so much so we did a pledge a pound drive this year, yes one whole

Pound a month, we even hated doing that. Sometimes I think I have the wrong 'hobby!'

What does your charity do? "

I hope I can say on here? If not please remove admin, I help autistic kids, I have two and there wasn't much in the way of clubs round here, so each month (although due to funding we had to stop this year) we do a cookery club x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Funny thing is, I've just worked it out and I've spent more than £19 on my goodie box for the homeless man I know, why because I wanted to, I don't feel pressured to plus I know he will get it.

"

I like that idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't feel it's too much so I made the £19 donation. It's not just a random figure plucked from the air. It's to provide a specific Christmas food box for a family. If it was too much, I wouldn't donate, same as all these things.

Maybe they're hoping to appeal to people who do have the disposable income to make a donation of this size - who can feel like they've donated something specific or whole rather than just a quid going into a big amorphous pot.

As I say, it worked on me.

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By *argaret JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Bromsgrove

I used to work for a charity (no names,) they very little for the work even though I used my own vehicle fuel and paid helpers then found out how much there managers farther up the line were getting as a salary, I stopped straight away and I will not give a penny to any charity again. I now change channels when ever an add comes on. You are being fleeced its a business for them to make money and that's all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I've seen this ad. I do think it's a little cheeky. I always give whatever I can, and do the weekly shop for my elderly neighbour. But you can only give so much.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising "

I have no idea if your figure is correct, but PETA is a campaigning/awareness raising organisation, so you would expect a substantial amount of their funds to go on advertising. You would begrudge childline spending money on a phone bill would you? So you have to keep in mind what the charities aims are. Would I expect PETA to directly help individual animals? No. Would I expect the RSPCA to? Yes.

If a charity is providing material support to their clients, as a ballpark figure, well run charities will be spending around 75% of their income on beneficiaries.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work for a Charitable organisation, and I am being given more cases from the Salvation army to assist with clothing x blanket requests. I myself am grateful for all donations that are brought into my shops, every bit helps regardless of how much is donated. Sad to say not all £19.00 goes to each case...

If the full £19 did, the charity would be running at a loss. I think it's entirely expected that not all £19 goes to the box; other costs are incurred.

I give out packs to homeless people daily from my shops, each pack contains hat, socks x 4 pairs, 2pairs gloves, 5foil sheets, toothpaste, toothbrush, pen x paper.. Each pack costs my organisation £4.50 per pack, each of my managers run fundraisers during the year to fund these packs.. They are given out all yr round. The Salvation army as like my charity have shops, and collections to assist with their fundraising.. I'm very passionate about my work and it's sad to see so many people needing assistance these days my charities ethos ' turning concern into action ' "

I think these boxes are a little different and more food based for Christmas.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I used to work on charity donation lines where on the ad they ask for £2 a month yet we were required to ask each caller to increase that to £5....really didn't sit well with me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising

Then choose a different charity with smaller overheads

It's not the size though. It's the accounts unlike companies as far a simple aware charities are not legally required to publish their numbers "

All charities have to produce accounts which must be made available on request. If their income is over £25,000 they must lodge them with the charities commission. If they're over that treshold they must prepare the accounts in accordance with the charities SORP (accounting regulations) and they must be audited.

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising "

Most of these bigger charity's are businesses myself and a few friends do an event each year for a local

children's charity and we ring fence an item which they need so we know where the money we raise gets spent. John

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising

Then choose a different charity with smaller overheads

It's not the size though. It's the accounts unlike companies as far a simple aware charities are not legally required to publish their numbers

All charities have to produce accounts which must be made available on request. If their income is over £25,000 they must lodge them with the charities commission. If they're over that treshold they must prepare the accounts in accordance with the charities SORP (accounting regulations) and they must be audited."

Ahhh cool that's good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't mind giving £20 worth of food or clothing, but I never give cash.

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By *argaret JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Bromsgrove


"I work for a Charitable organisation, and I am being given more cases from the Salvation army to assist with clothing x blanket requests. I myself am grateful for all donations that are brought into my shops, every bit helps regardless of how much is donated. Sad to say not all £19.00 goes to each case...

If the full £19 did, the charity would be running at a loss. I think it's entirely expected that not all £19 goes to the box; other costs are incurred.

I give out packs to homeless people daily from my shops, each pack contains hat, socks x 4 pairs, 2pairs gloves, 5foil sheets, toothpaste, toothbrush, pen x paper.. Each pack costs my organisation £4.50 per pack, each of my managers run fundraisers during the year to fund these packs.. They are given out all yr round. The Salvation army as like my charity have shops, and collections to assist with their fundraising.. I'm very passionate about my work and it's sad to see so many people needing assistance these days my charities ethos ' turning concern into action ' "

You are to be commended the big charities raise huge amounts through their shops and pay it out to reg managers and above in very well paid salaries, my advise would be pick a small charity like yours and donate your time they can't spend that on management or eastern European collection buisness's that keep seven tenths of the money they collect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising

I have no idea if your figure is correct, but PETA is a campaigning/awareness raising organisation, so you would expect a substantial amount of their funds to go on advertising. You would begrudge childline spending money on a phone bill would you? So you have to keep in mind what the charities aims are. Would I expect PETA to directly help individual animals? No. Would I expect the RSPCA to? Yes.

If a charity is providing material support to their clients, as a ballpark figure, well run charities will be spending around 75% of their income on beneficiaries."

There was a good info graphic on them.

Google peta info graphic.

Of 2399 animals impounded 8 were adopted the rest were destroyed

1% was the actual amount of money spent directly on animals not 2 my bad.

But they run a rate of putting down 5 animals a day based on an undefined "unadoptable" status

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work for a Charitable organisation, and I am being given more cases from the Salvation army to assist with clothing x blanket requests. I myself am grateful for all donations that are brought into my shops, every bit helps regardless of how much is donated. Sad to say not all £19.00 goes to each case...

If the full £19 did, the charity would be running at a loss. I think it's entirely expected that not all £19 goes to the box; other costs are incurred.

I give out packs to homeless people daily from my shops, each pack contains hat, socks x 4 pairs, 2pairs gloves, 5foil sheets, toothpaste, toothbrush, pen x paper.. Each pack costs my organisation £4.50 per pack, each of my managers run fundraisers during the year to fund these packs.. They are given out all yr round. The Salvation army as like my charity have shops, and collections to assist with their fundraising.. I'm very passionate about my work and it's sad to see so many people needing assistance these days my charities ethos ' turning concern into action '

You are to be commended the big charities raise huge amounts through their shops and pay it out to reg managers and above in very well paid salaries, my advise would be pick a small charity like yours and donate your time they can't spend that on management or eastern European collection buisness's that keep seven tenths of the money they collect."

You don't agree with Eastern Europeans having businesses?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You see a lot of these adds, I was watching TV the other day, and they were asking for £2 a month to sponsor a child in Africa so they fan get clean drinking water and an education, and one asking for £3 a month to sponsor a tiger.

I'm sorry but there's no contest, I've got two black kids at home, I've never had a tiger

So its your fault those poor homeless tigers need supporting!!! If more people had them as pets, they wouldn't be in this situation! "

My problem is that they ask for £2 a month to provide clean drinking water for a whole village, Severn Trent need to pull their finger out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I used to work for a charity (no names,) they very little for the work even though I used my own vehicle fuel and paid helpers then found out how much there managers farther up the line were getting as a salary, I stopped straight away and I will not give a penny to any charity again. I now change channels when ever an add comes on. You are being fleeced its a business for them to make money and that's all."

Non-profit organisations are the ones that benefit from the money raised.

Those that aren't non profit pay wages somewhere along the line. BHF for example: only 10% per pound goes to the charity.

I used to help run a non profit, but unfortunately we had to close it due to not enough funds coming in and to keep the registered number you have to raise over 5k a year (while still small). Ad it was an ignored cause, as it was seen astaboo it was always the same supporting, those that had been throughit.

As for £19 some will pay it, some wwon't. Personally, I think they should say that any other contributions would be appreciated and go toward the same thing. If 190 donated a £1 that's 10 more they could do.

Today there was the rotary club in Tesco, which do the same as what the salvation army are doing this year. There was also a food bank collecting toys (old and New) for those who are struggling this year. I bought a new toy and donated it, as I know what it's like when times are hard.

When I was younger I used to enjoy making the Xmas shoe boxes, but when they started charging you for donating one I stopped, as I'd already spent money on its contents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work for a Charitable organisation, and I am being given more cases from the Salvation army to assist with clothing x blanket requests. I myself am grateful for all donations that are brought into my shops, every bit helps regardless of how much is donated. Sad to say not all £19.00 goes to each case...

If the full £19 did, the charity would be running at a loss. I think it's entirely expected that not all £19 goes to the box; other costs are incurred.

I give out packs to homeless people daily from my shops, each pack contains hat, socks x 4 pairs, 2pairs gloves, 5foil sheets, toothpaste, toothbrush, pen x paper.. Each pack costs my organisation £4.50 per pack, each of my managers run fundraisers during the year to fund these packs.. They are given out all yr round. The Salvation army as like my charity have shops, and collections to assist with their fundraising.. I'm very passionate about my work and it's sad to see so many people needing assistance these days my charities ethos ' turning concern into action '

You are to be commended the big charities raise huge amounts through their shops and pay it out to reg managers and above in very well paid salaries, my advise would be pick a small charity like yours and donate your time they can't spend that on management or eastern European collection buisness's that keep seven tenths of the money they collect."

I do get paid a salary for my job, but everything that is earned through our ' community shop project's after my salary and shop rent, volunteer expenses are accounted for, all the funds are dispersed back into the local community each month..

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

I prefer to give my time rather than my money. Last year I decorated a day centre for homeless people and wrapped over 100 gifts for them.

I'm not sure how I feel about charities asking for specific amounts of money. I'd rather donate on my own terms personally. I like the change boxes. You can put in as much or as little as you like, providing they're not already full!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

"

All Staff paid x volunteer staff are put on training courses and encouraged to develop through the organisation..

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?"

They 'Ask'- you don't have to give that much, where is the problem?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

"

It depends what the charity is doing. But I agree that for certain services or once they reach a certain scale it's only right and proper that they pay professionals for things like handling the finances. And paying a proportion of the income out in professional costs can lead to a higher level of income for the charitable cause overall, it's often a worthwhile investment.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Charities should not ASK for any amount.

I'd like to think I do what I can for who I can when I can. I will not be told how much I should be giving to anyone.

It's my bloody money.

"

Yes it is. Good for you.x

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

All Staff paid x volunteer staff are put on training courses and encouraged to develop through the organisation.. "

Yeah, right. professionals will bring money in.x

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

All Staff paid x volunteer staff are put on training courses and encouraged to develop through the organisation.. "

Like the old lady that refused to sell me a mini dress because I am transgender_ (legally female driving licence, etc. lol).xx

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I prefer to give my time rather than my money. Last year I decorated a day centre for homeless people and wrapped over 100 gifts for them.

I'm not sure how I feel about charities asking for specific amounts of money. I'd rather donate on my own terms personally. I like the change boxes. You can put in as much or as little as you like, providing they're not already full!"

Baby, if all had your attitude, we could solve the the problem. Hugs.xxx

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

It depends what the charity is doing. But I agree that for certain services or once they reach a certain scale it's only right and proper that they pay professionals for things like handling the finances. And paying a proportion of the income out in professional costs can lead to a higher level of income for the charitable cause overall, it's often a worthwhile investment. "

You are right. xxx

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By *indys loverCouple
over a year ago

Stratford on avon

Im afraid i wont do 'sponser kermit the frog £3 a month ' but wait till something comes along in the world that i think is worthy of my attention , today i wrote a cheque out for the poor buggers in cumbria who have been forced out of their houses again by flood water

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

All Staff paid x volunteer staff are put on training courses and encouraged to develop through the organisation.. "

Don't know about your charity set up , but in most the 'volunteers' are from the local job centre, and are compelled to do it,also, a lot are berieved, elderly folk with no social skills, and tend to turn charities into their personal comfort zones.

Not being nasty to these folk, but it doesn't help the people in need.

It is about them, not the staff. Have had a lot of bad moments with the staff, as a transgender. Let people with the real skills handle it. I know, I had my own businesses.xxx

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Im afraid i wont do 'sponser kermit the frog £3 a month ' but wait till something comes along in the world that i think is worthy of my attention , today i wrote a cheque out for the poor buggers in cumbria who have been forced out of their houses again by flood water "
Some thing in the wold worthy of your attention-- Darth the invader??

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Im afraid i wont do 'sponser kermit the frog £3 a month ' but wait till something comes along in the world that i think is worthy of my attention , today i wrote a cheque out for the poor buggers in cumbria who have been forced out of their houses again by flood water Some thing in the wold worthy of your attention-- Darth the invader??"
Oh sorry, forgot to ask- did you sign it? lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

All Staff paid x volunteer staff are put on training courses and encouraged to develop through the organisation.. Don't know about your charity set up , but in most the 'volunteers' are from the local job centre, and are compelled to do it,also, a lot are berieved, elderly folk with no social skills, and tend to turn charities into their personal comfort zones.

Not being nasty to these folk, but it doesn't help the people in need.

It is about them, not the staff. Have had a lot of bad moments with the staff, as a transgender. Let people with the real skills handle it. I know, I had my own businesses.xxx"

I don't think you encountering issues with being transgender is related to the source of volunteers. I doubt they recruit specifically bigots, it's probably more so that you just happened to meet a bigot.

For example, being unemployed doesn't make you hate TG people, neither does being elderly.

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By *indys loverCouple
over a year ago

Stratford on avon


"Im afraid i wont do 'sponser kermit the frog £3 a month ' but wait till something comes along in the world that i think is worthy of my attention , today i wrote a cheque out for the poor buggers in cumbria who have been forced out of their houses again by flood water Some thing in the wold worthy of your attention-- Darth the invader??Oh sorry, forgot to ask- did you sign it? lol."

okay , so you may not think them worthy but i do and yes i did sign it

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

All Staff paid x volunteer staff are put on training courses and encouraged to develop through the organisation.. Don't know about your charity set up , but in most the 'volunteers' are from the local job centre, and are compelled to do it,also, a lot are berieved, elderly folk with no social skills, and tend to turn charities into their personal comfort zones.

Not being nasty to these folk, but it doesn't help the people in need.

It is about them, not the staff. Have had a lot of bad moments with the staff, as a transgender. Let people with the real skills handle it. I know, I had my own businesses.xxx

I don't think you encountering issues with being transgender is related to the source of volunteers. I doubt they recruit specifically bigots, it's probably more so that you just happened to meet a bigot.

For example, being unemployed doesn't make you hate TG people, neither does being elderly. "

Not the point. it is a service in dustry. Shops make money from customers. If you upset custermers they do not come back,Period.

People in the service industry need to be trained to a standard. I am sure the elderly lady wasn't a bigot. Just confused, and living in the sixties when transgender was unlawful.

Unemployed do not hate you. On the contrary, most are great people. But- THEY DO NOT FEEL THEY SHOULD BE THERE. ( And quite rightly. so selling skills can be abysmal. I didn't intend it to be a transphobic issue (althouth you jumped on that a little too quickly for comfort).

Just exlaining the problems with 'volunteers'

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Im afraid i wont do 'sponser kermit the frog £3 a month ' but wait till something comes along in the world that i think is worthy of my attention , today i wrote a cheque out for the poor buggers in cumbria who have been forced out of their houses again by flood water Some thing in the wold worthy of your attention-- Darth the invader??Oh sorry, forgot to ask- did you sign it? lol.

okay , so you may not think them worthy but i do and yes i did sign it "

When did I say they where unworthy? or my god- you have my tongue and fingers.lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

All Staff paid x volunteer staff are put on training courses and encouraged to develop through the organisation.. Don't know about your charity set up , but in most the 'volunteers' are from the local job centre, and are compelled to do it,also, a lot are berieved, elderly folk with no social skills, and tend to turn charities into their personal comfort zones.

Not being nasty to these folk, but it doesn't help the people in need.

It is about them, not the staff. Have had a lot of bad moments with the staff, as a transgender. Let people with the real skills handle it. I know, I had my own businesses.xxx

I don't think you encountering issues with being transgender is related to the source of volunteers. I doubt they recruit specifically bigots, it's probably more so that you just happened to meet a bigot.

For example, being unemployed doesn't make you hate TG people, neither does being elderly. Not the point. it is a service in dustry. Shops make money from customers. If you upset custermers they do not come back,Period.

People in the service industry need to be trained to a standard. I am sure the elderly lady wasn't a bigot. Just confused, and living in the sixties when transgender was unlawful.

Unemployed do not hate you. On the contrary, most are great people. But- THEY DO NOT FEEL THEY SHOULD BE THERE. ( And quite rightly. so selling skills can be abysmal. I didn't intend it to be a transphobic issue (althouth you jumped on that a little too quickly for comfort).

Just exlaining the problems with 'volunteers'"

Your problem isn't with volunteers, it's with staff training.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

All Staff paid x volunteer staff are put on training courses and encouraged to develop through the organisation.. Don't know about your charity set up , but in most the 'volunteers' are from the local job centre, and are compelled to do it,also, a lot are berieved, elderly folk with no social skills, and tend to turn charities into their personal comfort zones.

Not being nasty to these folk, but it doesn't help the people in need.

It is about them, not the staff. Have had a lot of bad moments with the staff, as a transgender. Let people with the real skills handle it. I know, I had my own businesses.xxx

I don't think you encountering issues with being transgender is related to the source of volunteers. I doubt they recruit specifically bigots, it's probably more so that you just happened to meet a bigot.

For example, being unemployed doesn't make you hate TG people, neither does being elderly. Not the point. it is a service in dustry. Shops make money from customers. If you upset custermers they do not come back,Period.

People in the service industry need to be trained to a standard. I am sure the elderly lady wasn't a bigot. Just confused, and living in the sixties when transgender was unlawful.

Unemployed do not hate you. On the contrary, most are great people. But- THEY DO NOT FEEL THEY SHOULD BE THERE. ( And quite rightly. so selling skills can be abysmal. I didn't intend it to be a transphobic issue (althouth you jumped on that a little too quickly for comfort).

Just exlaining the problems with 'volunteers'

Your problem isn't with volunteers, it's with staff training. "

Quite right. And it takes professionals to train, hence my original post. Got there in the end, thank god,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?"

It's not even a round at the pub

And for a homeless person makes a big difference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Asking for specific amounts for specific reasons makes sense. (For example, CAFOD offers different tiers for food, nets, education, etc).

You're not obliged to donate but it's good to know where your money is going.

In most cases with charities your money is going to advertising, rent and wages.

Iirc PETA only about 2% of the money actually goes to help animals the rest is bills and advertising

Then choose a different charity with smaller overheads

It's not the size though. It's the accounts unlike companies as far a simple aware charities are not legally required to publish their numbers "

They do - to the charity commission - it's all online

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

For Christ's sake- either give some money,or dont, or stop bitchin- what is wrong with you people. ???

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By *aisyDoandDaisyDontWoman
over a year ago

little old town of Reading!

I quite like the idea of being asked for a specific amount and being told what that specific amount might cover. It's less hazy than someone shaking a tin and saying "cancer research" or "disabled children".

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

sleeping bag and tent for twenty quid. 2500 rough sleepers, they should have it sorted in a weekend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I quite like the idea of being asked for a specific amount and being told what that specific amount might cover. It's less hazy than someone shaking a tin and saying "cancer research" or "disabled children". "

Me too. Different marketing will work on different people.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I quite like the idea of being asked for a specific amount and being told what that specific amount might cover. It's less hazy than someone shaking a tin and saying "cancer research" or "disabled children". "
Its how they get funds- Ask for a VAT receipt if it worries you.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"sleeping bag and tent for twenty quid. 2500 rough sleepers, they should have it sorted in a weekend. "
Should make you P.M. obviously got the skills for the job.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I quite like the idea of being asked for a specific amount and being told what that specific amount might cover. It's less hazy than someone shaking a tin and saying "cancer research" or "disabled children".

Me too. Different marketing will work on different people. "

Marketing- with a can??? lol.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?"

What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I don't feel it's too much so I made the £19 donation. It's not just a random figure plucked from the air. It's to provide a specific Christmas food box for a family. If it was too much, I wouldn't donate, same as all these things.

Maybe they're hoping to appeal to people who do have the disposable income to make a donation of this size - who can feel like they've donated something specific or whole rather than just a quid going into a big amorphous pot.

As I say, it worked on me. "

Agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad."

You've complained more than anyone on the thread, even going off topic to moan about your personal experiences in one charity shop

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

You've complained more than anyone on the thread, even going off topic to moan about your personal experiences in one charity shop "

Off topic? was explaining how more profesional help was needed to increase revenue. And you have a problem with that? Was it just a rant against charities then? Oh, sorry, missed the point. I agree then. Lousy money grabbin scroungers askin for too much. Better??? love an peace.xx

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Im afraid i wont do 'sponser kermit the frog £3 a month ' but wait till something comes along in the world that i think is worthy of my attention , today i wrote a cheque out for the poor buggers in cumbria who have been forced out of their houses again by flood water "

Do you work for an insurance company?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

All Staff paid x volunteer staff are put on training courses and encouraged to develop through the organisation.. Don't know about your charity set up , but in most the 'volunteers' are from the local job centre, and are compelled to do it,also, a lot are berieved, elderly folk with no social skills, and tend to turn charities into their personal comfort zones.

Not being nasty to these folk, but it doesn't help the people in need.

It is about them, not the staff. Have had a lot of bad moments with the staff, as a transgender. Let people with the real skills handle it. I know, I had my own businesses.xxx"

We run out charity based on the volunteers we can get, all our volunteers have been touched by autism in some way but yet we've had no formal training only 'on the job' of having autistic kids ourselves. It's very family based and we don't pretend to be a large charity that helps thousands of kids.

The money we raise from events (like characters days) goes straight into our film club that we run and our cookery club, Infact we always run at a loss on the cookery club because we don't like charging too much (so we always end up spending our own money) but the reason we do it is because we want to help not only the kids but help the parents. We are never going to be a massive charity (in an ideal world we would love to be) but for the seven families we help once a month with a two hour break from each other or providing 20 free tickets to see a film once a month in a setting that's right for kids that can't go to a normal screening of a film, we would always gladly put our hands in our own pockets xx

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

You've complained more than anyone on the thread, even going off topic to moan about your personal experiences in one charity shop Off topic? was explaining how more profesional help was needed to increase revenue. And you have a problem with that? Was it just a rant against charities then? Oh, sorry, missed the point. I agree then. Lousy money grabbin scroungers askin for too much. Better??? love an peace.xx"

Oh and by the way, my donations to charities (all documented) this year amount to £3500. Bless 'em.xxx

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I generally find that if there is a charity worthy enough of me supporting it, I want it to be staffed by trained professionals, rather than well meaning amateurs.

All Staff paid x volunteer staff are put on training courses and encouraged to develop through the organisation.. Don't know about your charity set up , but in most the 'volunteers' are from the local job centre, and are compelled to do it,also, a lot are berieved, elderly folk with no social skills, and tend to turn charities into their personal comfort zones.

Not being nasty to these folk, but it doesn't help the people in need.

It is about them, not the staff. Have had a lot of bad moments with the staff, as a transgender. Let people with the real skills handle it. I know, I had my own businesses.xxx

We run out charity based on the volunteers we can get, all our volunteers have been touched by autism in some way but yet we've had no formal training only 'on the job' of having autistic kids ourselves. It's very family based and we don't pretend to be a large charity that helps thousands of kids.

The money we raise from events (like characters days) goes straight into our film club that we run and our cookery club, Infact we always run at a loss on the cookery club because we don't like charging too much (so we always end up spending our own money) but the reason we do it is because we want to help not only the kids but help the parents. We are never going to be a massive charity (in an ideal world we would love to be) but for the seven families we help once a month with a two hour break from each other or providing 20 free tickets to see a film once a month in a setting that's right for kids that can't go to a normal screening of a film, we would always gladly put our hands in our own pockets xx"

Bless you. xxxx

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Im afraid i wont do 'sponser kermit the frog £3 a month ' but wait till something comes along in the world that i think is worthy of my attention , today i wrote a cheque out for the poor buggers in cumbria who have been forced out of their houses again by flood water

Do you work for an insurance company? "

Lol.xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

You've complained more than anyone on the thread, even going off topic to moan about your personal experiences in one charity shop Off topic? was explaining how more profesional help was needed to increase revenue. And you have a problem with that? Was it just a rant against charities then? Oh, sorry, missed the point. I agree then. Lousy money grabbin scroungers askin for too much. Better??? love an peace.xx"

No, I just think having a go at people for complaining when you complained yourself is nonsense.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"sleeping bag and tent for twenty quid. 2500 rough sleepers, they should have it sorted in a weekend. "

There is a debate within the sector though if sleeping bags and tents should be provided. It can be seen that by providing those items, it perpetuates rough sleeping, rather than leading those individuals to accept the myriad of support services available to them.

The longer someone rough sleeps, the worse their outcomes become

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

You've complained more than anyone on the thread, even going off topic to moan about your personal experiences in one charity shop Off topic? was explaining how more profesional help was needed to increase revenue. And you have a problem with that? Was it just a rant against charities then? Oh, sorry, missed the point. I agree then. Lousy money grabbin scroungers askin for too much. Better??? love an peace.xx

No, I just think having a go at people for complaining when you complained yourself is nonsense. "

You seem to be well qualified in the field of nonsense, and maybe a touch low in the humanaties field.x

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

I do a lodda work for cherridy.

but I dont like to talk about it mate

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I do a lodda work for cherridy.

but I dont like to talk about it mate "

Why not ? it is legasl, surely??

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

MK

having worked in IT, and seen the inside of some of these large charity's like the above, i wouldnt even think about donating to most of them, they waste is thousands of pounds every month on things that they class as old or no longer needed but they could donate or even sale it for 100s or thousands, even some of the people who work in these charity head offices is on a six figure salary's. the above charity is not the only one i know of that does this, loads of them are the same.

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad."

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"having worked in IT, and seen the inside of some of these large charity's like the above, i wouldnt even think about donating to most of them, they waste is thousands of pounds every month on things that they class as old or no longer needed but they could donate or even sale it for 100s or thousands, even some of the people who work in these charity head offices is on a six figure salary's. the above charity is not the only one i know of that does this, loads of them are the same. "
I understand how you feel. But I know it sounds trite, but you really need to see the bigger picture. I worked in as business where we would give away £30,000 and make £2,000,000 on the end product. No Company will tell you all of the dealings. Believe me, if the peeps are financial experts, there will be ' method in the madness'.xx

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

"

Another thing to consider OP, is it is cheaper to administer one payment of £19 than 19 payments of £1

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

"

and I replied. With business acumen. And you attacked me??

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

and I replied. With business acumen. And you attacked me??"

Why??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I save all me change and it goes to the homeless dogs at eightonbanks,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

"

To be fair, I wouldn't take it personally. They appear to selectively read.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

To be fair, I wouldn't take it personally. They appear to selectively read. "

Or donate.x

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I save all me change and it goes to the homeless dogs at eightonbanks, "
Woof !

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

and I replied. With business acumen. And you attacked me??Why??"

no attack was made at all, just getting a point across

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

Another thing to consider OP, is it is cheaper to administer one payment of £19 than 19 payments of £1 "

business acumen- well spotted.xxx

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

and I replied. With business acumen. And you attacked me??Why??

no attack was made at all, just getting a point across "

point you meant attack, surely- don't be modest babe.xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

To be fair, I wouldn't take it personally. They appear to selectively read. Or donate.x"

I'm not sure why you're suggesting I or the OP don't donate, or even volunteer. You really haven't a clue.

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

To be fair, I wouldn't take it personally. They appear to selectively read. Or donate.x

I'm not sure why you're suggesting I or the OP don't donate, or even volunteer. You really haven't a clue. "

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

To be fair, I wouldn't take it personally. They appear to selectively read. Or donate.x

I'm not sure why you're suggesting I or the OP don't donate, or even volunteer. You really haven't a clue. "

Why do you think I am suggesting that? Where have I made a statement to that effect? I haven't a clue about what? will hold my qualifications against yours any day. How are you qualified? have you been called to the bar, if so which court?? Like to see the qualifications of a person that tells me 'I haven't a clue' lol.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

To be fair, I wouldn't take it personally. They appear to selectively read. Or donate.x

I'm not sure why you're suggesting I or the OP don't donate, or even volunteer. You really haven't a clue. Why do you think I am suggesting that? Where have I made a statement to that effect? I haven't a clue about what? will hold my qualifications against yours any day. How are you qualified? have you been called to the bar, if so which court?? Like to see the qualifications of a person that tells me 'I haven't a clue' lol.x"

Wow - someone is sensitive tonight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

To be fair, I wouldn't take it personally. They appear to selectively read. Or donate.x

I'm not sure why you're suggesting I or the OP don't donate, or even volunteer. You really haven't a clue. Why do you think I am suggesting that? Where have I made a statement to that effect? I haven't a clue about what? will hold my qualifications against yours any day. How are you qualified? have you been called to the bar, if so which court?? Like to see the qualifications of a person that tells me 'I haven't a clue' lol.x"

By telling people to donate, you suggest they haven't already. What is your point? You're just wittering nonsense again.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?What an amazing rersponse- most are worried where their 2 pence in the can might go. Sheeze. Iv'e met a generation who don't give a shit, about anyone but them.How sad.

and i've now met a generation who reads what they want to in a thread.

I never said if i did or did not donate, i never mentioned it being wrong to ask for £19, i did however ask the question that IF they asked for less, more people might donate therefore generating more money.

To be fair, I wouldn't take it personally. They appear to selectively read. Or donate.x

I'm not sure why you're suggesting I or the OP don't donate, or even volunteer. You really haven't a clue. Why do you think I am suggesting that? Where have I made a statement to that effect? I haven't a clue about what? will hold my qualifications against yours any day. How are you qualified? have you been called to the bar, if so which court?? Like to see the qualifications of a person that tells me 'I haven't a clue' lol.x

Wow - someone is sensitive tonight "

You insult folk, they get tetchy- didn't mummy tell you that ?? lol

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington


"I do a lodda work for cherridy.

but I dont like to talk about it mate Why not ? it is legasl, surely??"

deffo thread of the day, fast becoming thread of the week

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I do a lodda work for cherridy.

but I dont like to talk about it mate Why not ? it is legasl, surely??

deffo thread of the day, fast becoming thread of the week "

Glad you are enjoying it- we aim to please. .xx

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Shy bairns get nowt

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Shy bairns get nowt"
Well said- (I think) Lol.xxx

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By *indys loverCouple
over a year ago

Stratford on avon


"Im afraid i wont do 'sponser kermit the frog £3 a month ' but wait till something comes along in the world that i think is worthy of my attention , today i wrote a cheque out for the poor buggers in cumbria who have been forced out of their houses again by flood water

Do you work for an insurance company? "

i didnt find that funny really , let me fill your house 2 ft deep in sludgy sewage water and see how you get on ,,,, okay for the first time because you just get the insurance man in , then a few months later you come to renew your premiums and you find that they wont cover you for flooding again unless you are prepared to pay huge premiums ,,,,okay if you can afford to but there are those who cant because they have been flooded out 4 times in the last 9 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've caught this advert again and it says donate £19 or what you can afford, it will get them a room and a Christmas dinner plus some support

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I don't like charities who cajole me into giving an amount of their choice and not mine. And I don't really like the Salvation Army either, and find their homophobic positions distasteful.

I'd be helping the homeless etc via other means.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Im afraid i wont do 'sponser kermit the frog £3 a month ' but wait till something comes along in the world that i think is worthy of my attention , today i wrote a cheque out for the poor buggers in cumbria who have been forced out of their houses again by flood water

Do you work for an insurance company?

i didnt find that funny really , let me fill your house 2 ft deep in sludgy sewage water and see how you get on ,,,, okay for the first time because you just get the insurance man in , then a few months later you come to renew your premiums and you find that they wont cover you for flooding again unless you are prepared to pay huge premiums ,,,,okay if you can afford to but there are those who cant because they have been flooded out 4 times in the last 9 years "

I apologise if you found my joke in poor taste. I love the fact that charity is such an important part of British society, and covers such a wide variety of causes. It is something that has been commented on many times by foreign friends of mine.

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By *indys loverCouple
over a year ago

Stratford on avon


"Im afraid i wont do 'sponser kermit the frog £3 a month ' but wait till something comes along in the world that i think is worthy of my attention , today i wrote a cheque out for the poor buggers in cumbria who have been forced out of their houses again by flood water

Do you work for an insurance company?

i didnt find that funny really , let me fill your house 2 ft deep in sludgy sewage water and see how you get on ,,,, okay for the first time because you just get the insurance man in , then a few months later you come to renew your premiums and you find that they wont cover you for flooding again unless you are prepared to pay huge premiums ,,,,okay if you can afford to but there are those who cant because they have been flooded out 4 times in the last 9 years

I apologise if you found my joke in poor taste. I love the fact that charity is such an important part of British society, and covers such a wide variety of causes. It is something that has been commented on many times by foreign friends of mine. "

No problem i can be as big a cynic as anyone on here

Mindy was a very active volunteer of the air ambulance ,,,, after 3 years she just got sick and tired of how they treated there volunteers and told them to stick there buckets up their arses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't begrudge many charities twenty quid. But considering that the salvation army has contributed to many anti-LGBT campaigns, they're not someone I could support personally. I hope anyone here would think the same.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I do a lodda work for cherridy.

but I dont like to talk about it mate Why not ? it is legasl, surely??"

It's kind of crass to publicly demonstrate your charitable donations as if you want a blue peter badge or something for them....imo of course.

I do my bit either by donating time, loose change or running events for specific charities but I do feel, as in my personal experience, asking those who are signing up to give one amount to then increase it before the ink is dry is money grabbing and not in the spirit of giving to charity.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I know its for elderly and homeless at christmas etc, but do you think £19 is asking too much for people to donate??

after all, times are hard and maybe if they asked for less they would get more people to donate?"

I used to regularly give to 6 charities and had direct debits to 2 others. Recently I have been hounded by these charities to give more and increase my direct debits, these telephone callers were quite insistent. I could be wrong but I believe these charities use a call centre, so it's not the actual charities calling you (correct me if I am wrong). This has resulted in me cancelling my direct debits and not giving to the other charities, so they all lose out. I still want to give,but don't like this constant harassment. I do go into the local charity shops though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do a lodda work for cherridy.

but I dont like to talk about it mate Why not ? it is legasl, surely??

It's kind of crass to publicly demonstrate your charitable donations as if you want a blue peter badge or something for them....imo of course.

. "

I feel this way a bit about a lot of charity on social media. One of my friends last week posted all over Facebook about how her family weren't exchanging Christmas presents this year, they'd be giving the money to a Syria refugee appeal instead. Which is great, but what was the purpose of telling everyone about it instead of just doing it? And I know it's bollocks because they're still having presents, so basically they've donated some money to charity, which millions of people do every day, but expect a pat on the back for it.

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By *ingersoloWoman
over a year ago

Oldham

Answer to the o.p yes £19 is a lot to ask for some people, it's not as easy to swallow as £5 per month donations, although it's expected that you would keep the monthly payments going for an average 3 years which works out about £180 quid. So in comparison a one off 19 quid isn't as big an ask.

I have been one of the fundraisers at doors for several big charities (and no I can't name them obvs). From my experience there I know that a lot of big charities couldn't afford to run by volunteers alone, and they have to pay for companies to send out fundraisers to find support. The reason they prefer this method rather than ad campaigns etc is the company they pay guarantee a quadruple return for whatever the charity pay. The fundraisers are then trained and are expected to be honest and fair, and even though they obviously are expected to handle objections, are not supposed to be too pushy. They should also be ethical so not push anyone they feel is vulnerable.

My personal favourite ways of donating now is either through charity lotteries, charity shops (I buy lots of books and dvds etc), as well as directly. If I pass a homeless person Sat near a shop I might ask if they want a drink or something to eat then buy it for them. And I'll buy something for myself and sit for a chat. Personally when I was in that situation a few years ago I know that little bit of social interaction would have been worth more than a handful of change.

But that's just my opinion x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Likewise I have fundraised and still do for some well known charities. It is a target driven job so those fundraisers often have to find 2 donors a day or lose their their job as it's charities money their being paid. Some companies you're told to handle 2 objections ie I give to charities already otherwise can been sent home and lose a whole days pay. The thing that saddens me is that so many people will complain about being asked but not complain about the fact that charities exist because governments won't do enough to look after the most vulnerable like children, eldery and the sick.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Likewise I have fundraised and still do for some well known charities. It is a target driven job so those fundraisers often have to find 2 donors a day or lose their their job as it's charities money their being paid. Some companies you're told to handle 2 objections ie I give to charities already otherwise can been sent home and lose a whole days pay. The thing that saddens me is that so many people will complain about being asked but not complain about the fact that charities exist because governments won't do enough to look after the most vulnerable like children, eldery and the sick."

I agree that government does not do enough for these vulnerable members of our society, but pressuring people who are already giving what they can afford, is not going to help the cause.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well the only solution is to eradicate all charities and raise taxes and hope the government would spend the money in the right way and for causes that meant something to you. Probably still be some areas overlooked however and at least you choose to donate to who you wish. Saying no is surely not such a hardship when if relied on people signing up off their own back some of the millions of lives saved every year by charities wouldn't happen by perhaps something as simple as a charity giving a blanket and a warm drink to a homeless person.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

At NO point do they TELL you what to donate.

You can donate from nothing to all you own.

They tell you that £19.00 could send food to a family for Christmas day or feed homeless people etc.

Give or don't give. It's our choice.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
Forum Mod

over a year ago

My Own Little World

I've cancelled my monthly DD payment to charities in the past after they have phoned and asked if I am willing to up my monthly donations. The 1st time they phoned I said no and asked them to put a note on file not to ask again or I would cancel. They phoned again 6 months later.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Difficult one - I like the Salvation Army and have done work for them and donated etc. - I was astonished once when I went for a meal with a few of their members - and learnt that 3 of them around the table had 'company cars' - the captain even had a 'company house' - all paid for by donations - and therein lies lies the problem - how much actually gets through to those who really need it. Company cars in the Sally Army - true!

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I've cancelled my monthly DD payment to charities in the past after they have phoned and asked if I am willing to up my monthly donations. The 1st time they phoned I said no and asked them to put a note on file not to ask again or I would cancel. They phoned again 6 months later."

This!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Honestly - a lump payment of almost twenty pounds IS currently too much for me. Though I volunteer for a local charity that provides help for all sorts of issues - homelessness, food bank, drug & alcohol help - as I have time on my hands. Also, with that I can also directly see how my work is helping people.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Honestly - a lump payment of almost twenty pounds IS currently too much for me. Though I volunteer for a local charity that provides help for all sorts of issues - homelessness, food bank, drug & alcohol help - as I have time on my hands. Also, with that I can also directly see how my work is helping people."

Well done, young lady! That is something I am going to look at. Great idea!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Honestly - a lump payment of almost twenty pounds IS currently too much for me. Though I volunteer for a local charity that provides help for all sorts of issues - homelessness, food bank, drug & alcohol help - as I have time on my hands. Also, with that I can also directly see how my work is helping people.

Well done, young lady! That is something I am going to look at. Great idea!!"

Thank you

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I don't begrudge many charities twenty quid. But considering that the salvation army has contributed to many anti-LGBT campaigns, they're not someone I could support personally. I hope anyone here would think the same."
Interesting point, wasn't aware of that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's 20 quid

Get over it

Pay it or don't - we have wasted more time discussing it than it's worth -

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"It's 20 quid

Get over it

Pay it or don't - we have wasted more time discussing it than it's worth - "

Wasted time? you chose to reply, it isn't jury service. .xx

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby


"I had some charity knocking my door the other day wanting £10 a month...i think its a bloody cheek! Especially when they dont take no for an answer!"
Don,t answer the door and Then wait to see who it is out the window if their strangers or someone that you can,t recognise what their doing Ignore them thats what I do now Otherwise knock on the window to bring Them back same as phone I just let it ring if its someone I don,t know or they don,t leave a message on the answer phone I Ignore them again you could spend all day (sometimes) answering stupid people in call centres or people trying to flog stuff but it is part of life now on the telephone get rid of one another comes along, I should have done it a long time back its surpriseing this way how they can lose Interest in sending call outs.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Yes far to much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cancer research the other week I was bloody disgusted with what I witnessed in their door to door approach.

I still haven't forgiven cats protection for phoning me and asking for more money.

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Tip if you would still like to support cp, is to find your local branch and set up the direct debit to them directly. I'm a cp volunteer, we get 2 annual budgets from head office, 1 which is for care, food etc and vetinary costs, the other is our neutering budget. These are not large anoint and for our branch last about 5-6 months of the year, we Cover a very large area and currently take in from other areas too as the branches that covered there have closed. Funds for the rest of the year we have to raise ourselves. My sister's are both involved too and spend most weekends attending fetes, fairs, markets, etc, to raise those funds, as well as both fostering as I do. I spend my summer handrearing. Branches tend to be run as a small rescue, and donating directly means it goes to the cats in care, not the fat cats.x

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