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"Has anyone done the stats or is it a couple of uneducated people talking loudly at each other?" Much like the forum you mean?  | |||
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"Watching this debate on Sky News - it is all getting a bit animated. One woman comparing the risk of obesity is greater than the risk of terrorism and another woman calling the assumption nonsense." Obesity is more likely to affect a greater number of people in this country, than terroristic acts. | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about!" The males in each of the age groups actually have higher proportions of them who are obese or overweight compared to the women. | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about!" Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! | |||
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"Has anyone done the stats or is it a couple of uneducated people talking loudly at each other? Much like the forum you mean? "How dare you! I've got a Tufty Club badge! | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about! Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! " Official stats (from the Health Survey of England), have it that a higher number of men are overweight/ obese than women. | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about! Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! Official stats (from the Health Survey of England), have it that a higher number of men are overweight/ obese than women. " From what I have heard, women have a higher risk of mortality from obesity and obesity-related illnesses, regardless of which sex has more overweight people. Although I do think the focus on women is a bit bizarre. -Courtney | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about! Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! Official stats (from the Health Survey of England), have it that a higher number of men are overweight/ obese than women. " Apologies - I didn't know that! Any idea what percentage of men it is then Hun? X | |||
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"I think it's believable that people are more likely to die as a result of obesity than terrorism. It does seem in bad taste to compare the two though. " To say the least. Maybe it's a ploy to piss off ISIS by making them seem insignificant? They are probably reading the BBC and scratching their beards going WTF? | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about! Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! Official stats (from the Health Survey of England), have it that a higher number of men are overweight/ obese than women. From what I have heard, women have a higher risk of mortality from obesity and obesity-related illnesses, regardless of which sex has more overweight people. Although I do think the focus on women is a bit bizarre. -Courtney" I think it's for two reasons Courtney - both traditional ones! Women traditionally kept fit by doing household chores (before domestic machinery) walking the kids to school, walking to the shops etc (before 2 car families) so were traditionally fitter and slimmer than men! It's therefore more noticeable because women are putting weight on more quickly than their male counterparts - 2 dress sizes in the last 4 decades - so if it carries on at the current rate we're up shit creek as it were! Secondly - women still have a bigger influence on the rest of the household than anyone else - as they still tend to do the majority of the cooking and shopping - ergo if they choose to buy and cook unhealthy food every day - then the whole family eats unhealthy and potentially becomes obese! Xx | |||
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"Obesity is a very complex issue for the people concerned and vitriolic arguments won't achieve much, if anything." So true | |||
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"I'm still alive.. "And looking good  | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about! Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! Official stats (from the Health Survey of England), have it that a higher number of men are overweight/ obese than women. From what I have heard, women have a higher risk of mortality from obesity and obesity-related illnesses, regardless of which sex has more overweight people. Although I do think the focus on women is a bit bizarre. -Courtney" It's not bizarre at all its sensible. If you eat to get funding for a new or usually ignored health issue associate it with women. Women's health issues get much much more funding than mens, more awareness and people like to be seen doing something about them. | |||
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"I just don't understand why it's a problem. If someone is happy in their own skin leave them be I say "The report is from the Govt Chief Medical Officer and it is painting a very bleak picture for women going forwards. | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about! Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! Official stats (from the Health Survey of England), have it that a higher number of men are overweight/ obese than women. From what I have heard, women have a higher risk of mortality from obesity and obesity-related illnesses, regardless of which sex has more overweight people. Although I do think the focus on women is a bit bizarre. -Courtney It's not bizarre at all its sensible. If you eat to get funding for a new or usually ignored health issue associate it with women. Women's health issues get much much more funding than mens, more awareness and people like to be seen doing something about them." I get what you're saying, but the fact is that everyone is getting fatter. It is becoming more of a strain on the health services (not only for younger overweight people, but for older people as well). It may bring in more funding to focus on women, but it is unfair. And it comes off, at least to me, as sexist. -Courtney | |||
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"I'm still alive.. "Me too and surprisingly I'm that dreaded average size 16 lol ???? | |||
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"I just don't understand why it's a problem. If someone is happy in their own skin leave them be I say "It's a problem because - like smoking - it's a huge drain on the nhs! However - though the government can recoup some of the nhs costs of smokers with tax on tobacco - there's currently no way of recouping costs from the obese! I'm guessing that's where the sugar tax comes in if it's put in place! Personally I think they'd be far better funding cookery lessons every week throughout a child's education! If every adolescent/young adult knows how to cook a delicious, cheap nutritious meal that tastes ten times better than any ready meal then the next generation will be healthy - problem solved! Currently the UK eats more ready meals than the rest of Europe put together! Pretty awful really! And I must confess I buy them sometimes!  | |||
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"I just want to point out that the body mass index is an incredibly stupid way to define obesity and men with a bit of muscle will be classified as obese whilst having a ripped six pack - go figure. " For the majority of lard arses that should be worried about it, it is a good measure. | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about! Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! Official stats (from the Health Survey of England), have it that a higher number of men are overweight/ obese than women. From what I have heard, women have a higher risk of mortality from obesity and obesity-related illnesses, regardless of which sex has more overweight people. Although I do think the focus on women is a bit bizarre. -Courtney It's not bizarre at all its sensible. If you eat to get funding for a new or usually ignored health issue associate it with women. Women's health issues get much much more funding than mens, more awareness and people like to be seen doing something about them. I get what you're saying, but the fact is that everyone is getting fatter. It is becoming more of a strain on the health services (not only for younger overweight people, but for older people as well). It may bring in more funding to focus on women, but it is unfair. And it comes off, at least to me, as sexist. -Courtney" Sexist against which sex? Against women cause it's calling them fat? Or against men as it's shutting them to the side and putting women in front of them for potentially life saving care? | |||
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"I just want to point out that the body mass index is an incredibly stupid way to define obesity and men with a bit of muscle will be classified as obese whilst having a ripped six pack - go figure. " Yet this is about women so screws that argument. And actually for large populations of average people (which is what it's designed for) it's a perfectly good measure. Yes it's broken by a small number of people but for most it's a good quick statistical tool. Actually assessing body fat levels for sample sizes in the thousands would take massive amounts of time and manpower | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about! Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! Official stats (from the Health Survey of England), have it that a higher number of men are overweight/ obese than women. From what I have heard, women have a higher risk of mortality from obesity and obesity-related illnesses, regardless of which sex has more overweight people. Although I do think the focus on women is a bit bizarre. -Courtney It's not bizarre at all its sensible. If you eat to get funding for a new or usually ignored health issue associate it with women. Women's health issues get much much more funding than mens, more awareness and people like to be seen doing something about them. I get what you're saying, but the fact is that everyone is getting fatter. It is becoming more of a strain on the health services (not only for younger overweight people, but for older people as well). It may bring in more funding to focus on women, but it is unfair. And it comes off, at least to me, as sexist. -Courtney Sexist against which sex? Against women cause it's calling them fat? Or against men as it's shutting them to the side and putting women in front of them for potentially life saving care?" Both, in their own ways. I don't think it is a helpful way to get a message across. Like comparing it to terrorism. You could do it, but is it the best way? The more fair way? No, it isn't. People should care about the issue because it affects us all as a society. And the government and the news should not be the medium through which these issues are manipulated. Though I know they often are. -Courtney | |||
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"More education about the choices we make when it comes to food will help the problem. More of a national risk than terrorism? Weird way of looking at it but if current trends continue, then yes. " Well complications of diabetes are now the largest cost the NHS has, over 10 billion a year | |||
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"I just don't understand why it's a problem. If someone is happy in their own skin leave them be I say
It's a problem because - like smoking - it's a huge drain on the nhs! However - though the government can recoup some of the nhs costs of smokers with tax on tobacco - there's currently no way of recouping costs from the obese! I'm guessing that's where the sugar tax comes in if it's put in place!
Personally I think they'd be far better funding cookery lessons every week throughout a child's education! If every adolescent/young adult knows how to cook a delicious, cheap nutritious meal that tastes ten times better than any ready meal then the next generation will be healthy - problem solved!
Currently the UK eats more ready meals than the rest of Europe put together! Pretty awful really! And I must confess I buy them sometimes! "I completely understand the costs etc, but when our local councils are allowing there to be so many takeaway in our high streets etc is it any wonder about obesity rates? They could add tax to sugary drinks and I believe in Mexico they done it (I believe Mexico drink the most Cola in the world) and the amount they recouped from it was insane. Why is the government so slow to do this though, I never understand. I think the government could also do something in schools and also in terms of the way food are advertised on TV. | |||
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"It's a great risk to me. I can't stand it when my weight escalates. I'm not sure it's proportionally comparable to a terrorist threat though!" Damn girl you trippy lol you look amazing as you are and you can terrorise me any day | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about! Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! Official stats (from the Health Survey of England), have it that a higher number of men are overweight/ obese than women. From what I have heard, women have a higher risk of mortality from obesity and obesity-related illnesses, regardless of which sex has more overweight people. Although I do think the focus on women is a bit bizarre. -Courtney It's not bizarre at all its sensible. If you eat to get funding for a new or usually ignored health issue associate it with women. Women's health issues get much much more funding than mens, more awareness and people like to be seen doing something about them. I get what you're saying, but the fact is that everyone is getting fatter. It is becoming more of a strain on the health services (not only for younger overweight people, but for older people as well). It may bring in more funding to focus on women, but it is unfair. And it comes off, at least to me, as sexist. -Courtney Sexist against which sex? Against women cause it's calling them fat? Or against men as it's shutting them to the side and putting women in front of them for potentially life saving care? Both, in their own ways. I don't think it is a helpful way to get a message across. Like comparing it to terrorism. You could do it, but is it the best way? The more fair way? No, it isn't. People should care about the issue because it affects us all as a society. And the government and the news should not be the medium through which these issues are manipulated. Though I know they often are. -Courtney " The news is independent though they publish ehatever they think will sell. Hence why science articles are always laughable because enoone wants to read a dull journal paper that's actually pretty conservative in its conclusion they want to read "omg McDonald's is more dangerous than ISIS! JUST THINK OF THE FAT CHILDREN!!!" | |||
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"Why's it just about women, I see a fair few fat blokes about! Because there are proportionally more overweight women than there are men. The bma has produced findings that over 70% of women over 45 are overweight! Whether we want to accept it or eschew it as nonsense - overweight is a size 14 or more if you are a woman of average height - and the majority of women are now size 14 or greater. Arguing that the average woman is now a size 16 is pointless - that just confirms that the majority of women are over what the bma considers to be a healthy weight! And the 'uneducated person' who suggested that it should be put at the same level as terrorism as a national threat was a lady who is one of the country's leading doctors and backed by other leading doctors! Im not being anti -bbw at all by the way - I'm just quoting statistics as they are! Official stats (from the Health Survey of England), have it that a higher number of men are overweight/ obese than women. From what I have heard, women have a higher risk of mortality from obesity and obesity-related illnesses, regardless of which sex has more overweight people. Although I do think the focus on women is a bit bizarre. -Courtney It's not bizarre at all its sensible. If you eat to get funding for a new or usually ignored health issue associate it with women. Women's health issues get much much more funding than mens, more awareness and people like to be seen doing something about them. I get what you're saying, but the fact is that everyone is getting fatter. It is becoming more of a strain on the health services (not only for younger overweight people, but for older people as well). It may bring in more funding to focus on women, but it is unfair. And it comes off, at least to me, as sexist. -Courtney Sexist against which sex? Against women cause it's calling them fat? Or against men as it's shutting them to the side and putting women in front of them for potentially life saving care? Both, in their own ways. I don't think it is a helpful way to get a message across. Like comparing it to terrorism. You could do it, but is it the best way? The more fair way? No, it isn't. People should care about the issue because it affects us all as a society. And the government and the news should not be the medium through which these issues are manipulated. Though I know they often are. -Courtney The news is independent though they publish ehatever they think will sell. Hence why science articles are always laughable because enoone wants to read a dull journal paper that's actually pretty conservative in its conclusion they want to read "omg McDonald's is more dangerous than ISIS! JUST THINK OF THE FAT CHILDREN!!!" " I know. And I think it is sad. 
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"I just don't understand why it's a problem. If someone is happy in their own skin leave them be I say
It's a problem because - like smoking - it's a huge drain on the nhs! However - though the government can recoup some of the nhs costs of smokers with tax on tobacco - there's currently no way of recouping costs from the obese! I'm guessing that's where the sugar tax comes in if it's put in place! )"Actually the government makes over 5 billion pounds profit from the smoking taxes after NHS costs are deducted from the bill | |||
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"More education about the choices we make when it comes to food will help the problem. More of a national risk than terrorism? Weird way of looking at it but if current trends continue, then yes. " To be honest I think there are very few people out there who have no idea what a healthy diet is! It's so much easier to blame the government or the food industry. The fact is - people are choosing to eat fatty, sugary, processed foods on a daily basis and feed them to their children! Foods that were traditionally an occasional treat are now daily diet! Unless this stops soon we're screwed as taxes will have to go up massively to fund this and other preventable illnesses/conditions! | |||
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"Watching this debate on Sky News - it is all getting a bit animated. One woman comparing the risk of obesity is greater than the risk of terrorism and another woman calling the assumption nonsense." Really? Terrorism? Jesus wept. Do they think the obese shout 'A-la-Snack Bar' as they descend on the all-you-can-eat buffet? I weep for modern journalism. | |||
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"Watching this debate on Sky News - it is all getting a bit animated. One woman comparing the risk of obesity is greater than the risk of terrorism and another woman calling the assumption nonsense. Really? Terrorism? Jesus wept. Do they think the obese shout 'A-la-Snack Bar' as they descend on the all-you-can-eat buffet? I weep for modern journalism." 'A-la-Snack-Bar'  | |||
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"More education about the choices we make when it comes to food will help the problem. More of a national risk than terrorism? Weird way of looking at it but if current trends continue, then yes. To be honest I think there are very few people out there who have no idea what a healthy diet is! It's so much easier to blame the government or the food industry. The fact is - people are choosing to eat fatty, sugary, processed foods on a daily basis and feed them to their children! Foods that were traditionally an occasional treat are now daily diet! Unless this stops soon we're screwed as taxes will have to go up massively to fund this and other preventable illnesses/conditions! " Well looking it it plainly, we do have a massive pension short fall we needed to fix for this generation...... Problem solved? | |||
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"Some may wish to read up on PCOS before assuming every large woman is a lie muncher." Maybe women with PCOS and so a higher level of blood insulin should read up on low carb before assuming they're doomed to get fat so no point trying? | |||
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"Some may wish to read up on PCOS before assuming every large woman is a lie muncher." Not every fat woman has a medical condition. That has to be a minority. | |||
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"Some may wish to read up on PCOS before assuming every large woman is a lie muncher. Maybe women with PCOS and so a higher level of blood insulin should read up on low carb before assuming they're doomed to get fat so no point trying?" Maybe some people should realise that being fat is not a lifestyle choice and most of us will have tried everything possible to lose weight. As for low carb, I am naturally no carb because I have coeliac disease. All Im saying is not every fat person is a pie munching idiot who doesn't know what a lentil looks like. | |||
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"Some may wish to read up on PCOS before assuming every large woman is a lie muncher. Maybe women with PCOS and so a higher level of blood insulin should read up on low carb before assuming they're doomed to get fat so no point trying? Maybe some people should realise that being fat is not a lifestyle choice and most of us will have tried everything possible to lose weight. As for low carb, I am naturally no carb because I have coeliac disease. All Im saying is not every fat person is a pie munching idiot who doesn't know what a lentil looks like." But the majority probably are | |||
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"Some may wish to read up on PCOS before assuming every large woman is a lie muncher. Maybe women with PCOS and so a higher level of blood insulin should read up on low carb before assuming they're doomed to get fat so no point trying? Maybe some people should realise that being fat is not a lifestyle choice and most of us will have tried everything possible to lose weight. As for low carb, I am naturally no carb because I have coeliac disease. All Im saying is not every fat person is a pie munching idiot who doesn't know what a lentil looks like. But the majority probably are" I include myself in that. I'm fat because I'm lazy and i love food and alcohol. Fact. | |||
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"Some may wish to read up on PCOS before assuming every large woman is a lie muncher. Not every fat woman has a medical condition. That has to be a minority." No, not every but some do. And they get lumped in as idiots. Believe me, obesity is a condition that gets you legally discriminated against and all sorts of judgmental crap gets thrown at you. Why suffer that if you didn't have to? | |||
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"Some may wish to read up on PCOS before assuming every large woman is a lie muncher. Maybe women with PCOS and so a higher level of blood insulin should read up on low carb before assuming they're doomed to get fat so no point trying? Maybe some people should realise that being fat is not a lifestyle choice and most of us will have tried everything possible to lose weight. As for low carb, I am naturally no carb because I have coeliac disease. All Im saying is not every fat person is a pie munching idiot who doesn't know what a lentil looks like." Well you choose to eat more than you burn.... Lentils are a fantasiac food for bulking up though nice and calorie dense. | |||
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"But the majority probably are I include myself in that. I'm fat because I'm lazy and i love food and alcohol. Fact." I'm also lactose intolerant and don't drink alcohol. Gave up sugar years ago too. I mainly drink water or sometimes a 0 calorie drink. I'm a cheap date in a bar though | |||
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"Some may wish to read up on PCOS before assuming every large woman is a lie muncher. Not every fat woman has a medical condition. That has to be a minority. No, not every but some do. And they get lumped in as idiots. Believe me, obesity is a condition that gets you legally discriminated against and all sorts of judgmental crap gets thrown at you. Why suffer that if you didn't have to?" Well i do. Because I'm lazy that's why. | |||
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"Some may wish to read up on PCOS before assuming every large woman is a lie muncher. Maybe women with PCOS and so a higher level of blood insulin should read up on low carb before assuming they're doomed to get fat so no point trying? Maybe some people should realise that being fat is not a lifestyle choice and most of us will have tried everything possible to lose weight. As for low carb, I am naturally no carb because I have coeliac disease. All Im saying is not every fat person is a pie munching idiot who doesn't know what a lentil looks like." Im so sick of this argument that a health issue is the cause of being over weight. It's bullshit in 99.7% of cases. I'm diabetic. I'm tall and weigh 62kgs. Every single time I go for retinopathy or any check up for my hba1c or pick up a prescription I get the look. They stare at me say 'you're not fat' & querie my diagnoses. Maintaining a healthy weight is not just about the food you eat. It's about the calories you burn. Excersizing is bloody hard work at any weight and even friends of mine with limbs missing make an effort to excersize. Where there is a will there is a way. | |||
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-Courtney" sorry to hear that. My diagnoses and a few hypers taught me to stop putting shiet in my diet and to do something to burn calories. I can't do high impact like zumba but do pole dancing for flexibility and jogging (when I can) im a fair weather swimmer/kayak/horse rider too | |||
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"I just want to point out that the body mass index is an incredibly stupid way to define obesity and men with a bit of muscle will be classified as obese whilst having a ripped six pack - go figure. " 
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sorry to hear that. My diagnoses and a few hypers taught me to stop putting shiet in my diet and to do something to burn calories. I can't do high impact like zumba but do pole dancing for flexibility and jogging (when I can) im a fair weather swimmer/kayak/horse rider too "It is great to hear that you are doing well. Good on you
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"Some may wish to read up on PCOS before assuming every large woman is a lie muncher. Maybe women with PCOS and so a higher level of blood insulin should read up on low carb before assuming they're doomed to get fat so no point trying? Maybe some people should realise that being fat is not a lifestyle choice and most of us will have tried everything possible to lose weight. As for low carb, I am naturally no carb because I have coeliac disease. All Im saying is not every fat person is a pie munching idiot who doesn't know what a lentil looks like. Im so sick of this argument that a health issue is the cause of being over weight. It's bullshit in 99.7% of cases. I'm diabetic. I'm tall and weigh 62kgs. Every single time I go for retinopathy or any check up for my hba1c or pick up a prescription I get the look. They stare at me say 'you're not fat' & querie my diagnoses. Maintaining a healthy weight is not just about the food you eat. It's about the calories you burn. Excersizing is bloody hard work at any weight and even friends of mine with limbs missing make an effort to excersize. Where there is a will there is a way. " Good lass, it's difficult and seriously and sincerely well done for sticking it out. I've seen too many people get to the insulin stage and then just give up, there's one girl I know who is diabetic but never once uses it as an excuse for anything ( seen her get in a shouting match with the boss over work restrictions regarding it ) manages her diet and food content and completely owns it.
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"Bring back compulsory home economics for boys and girls and impose a massive sugar tax. Won't solve the long term issue but it might be a start. But people will get fat of pasta,bread, rice, McDonald's, pretty much anything not just sugar. Plus by saying sugar you open yourself up to a world of legal issues. What's sugar? Glucose, fructose, sucrose? And to which degree do you tax each? Do you include fruit in your tax? It's not easy, but most current research is pointing to sugar as being the main culprit. But general poor diet and lack of exercise doesn't help. What is the alternative? Sit back and watch an escalating problem get worse or try and find a solution? What sugar or sugar substitutes we eat that our body doesn't burn gets stored as fat X " Well most sugar substitutes aren't actually metabolisable (is that a word? ) that's the point of them they taste sweet but are calorifically meaningless. Like zero. It's what I use to control my sugar cravings. Sweet,delicious but nutritionally utterly worthless | |||
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"Bring back compulsory home economics for boys and girls and impose a massive sugar tax. Won't solve the long term issue but it might be a start. But people will get fat of pasta,bread, rice, McDonald's, pretty much anything not just sugar. Plus by saying sugar you open yourself up to a world of legal issues. What's sugar? Glucose, fructose, sucrose? And to which degree do you tax each? Do you include fruit in your tax? It's not easy, but most current research is pointing to sugar as being the main culprit. But general poor diet and lack of exercise doesn't help. What is the alternative? Sit back and watch an escalating problem get worse or try and find a solution? But you mossed the issue. Taxing won't fix it. Taxing simply raises a massive amount of other issues. Especially as other r simple refined carbs are widely accessible. But on the other hand look at it this way we have reached a point as a sociality that one of the biggest problems we face is "food is too abundant". Just think about that. " Not sure I've missed the issue, we have an NHS funding crisis which is getting worse as a result of a massively ageing demographic and an increasingly unhealthy and obese population. Taxing things like sugar, processed food, takeaways may not be the answer, but as a nation we are getting fatter, doing nothing will not address that. | |||
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"Bring back compulsory home economics for boys and girls and impose a massive sugar tax. Won't solve the long term issue but it might be a start. But people will get fat of pasta,bread, rice, McDonald's, pretty much anything not just sugar. Plus by saying sugar you open yourself up to a world of legal issues. What's sugar? Glucose, fructose, sucrose? And to which degree do you tax each? Do you include fruit in your tax? It's not easy, but most current research is pointing to sugar as being the main culprit. But general poor diet and lack of exercise doesn't help. What is the alternative? Sit back and watch an escalating problem get worse or try and find a solution? What sugar or sugar substitutes we eat that our body doesn't burn gets stored as fat X Well most sugar substitutes aren't actually metabolisable (is that a word? ) that's the point of them they taste sweet but are calorifically meaningless. Like zero. It's what I use to control my sugar cravings. Sweet,delicious but nutritionally utterly worthless " Oh ok I'm diabetic (not type 2 because I'm overweight) and get told regularly by diabetic nurse and doctor this, I will be asking for more information at my next check up X | |||
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"Bring back compulsory home economics for boys and girls and impose a massive sugar tax. Won't solve the long term issue but it might be a start. But people will get fat of pasta,bread, rice, McDonald's, pretty much anything not just sugar. Plus by saying sugar you open yourself up to a world of legal issues. What's sugar? Glucose, fructose, sucrose? And to which degree do you tax each? Do you include fruit in your tax? It's not easy, but most current research is pointing to sugar as being the main culprit. But general poor diet and lack of exercise doesn't help. What is the alternative? Sit back and watch an escalating problem get worse or try and find a solution? But you mossed the issue. Taxing won't fix it. Taxing simply raises a massive amount of other issues. Especially as other r simple refined carbs are widely accessible. But on the other hand look at it this way we have reached a point as a sociality that one of the biggest problems we face is "food is too abundant". Just think about that. Not sure I've missed the issue, we have an NHS funding crisis which is getting worse as a result of a massively ageing demographic and an increasingly unhealthy and obese population. Taxing things like sugar, processed food, takeaways may not be the answer, but as a nation we are getting fatter, doing nothing will not address that." The issue is what is sugar. Define it for me. Cause there's billions of pounds up for grabs for weasling out of that definition | |||
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"Bring back compulsory home economics for boys and girls and impose a massive sugar tax. Won't solve the long term issue but it might be a start. But people will get fat of pasta,bread, rice, McDonald's, pretty much anything not just sugar. Plus by saying sugar you open yourself up to a world of legal issues. What's sugar? Glucose, fructose, sucrose? And to which degree do you tax each? Do you include fruit in your tax? It's not easy, but most current research is pointing to sugar as being the main culprit. But general poor diet and lack of exercise doesn't help. What is the alternative? Sit back and watch an escalating problem get worse or try and find a solution? What sugar or sugar substitutes we eat that our body doesn't burn gets stored as fat X Well most sugar substitutes aren't actually metabolisable (is that a word? ) that's the point of them they taste sweet but are calorifically meaningless. Like zero. It's what I use to control my sugar cravings. Sweet,delicious but nutritionally utterly worthless Oh ok I'm diabetic (not type 2 because I'm overweight) and get told regularly by diabetic nurse and doctor this, I will be asking for more information at my next check up X " Depends on the substitute but things like arspartaine (spelling?) is simply something that activates the taste busts but your body can't digests it. | |||
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"Bring back compulsory home economics for boys and girls and impose a massive sugar tax. Won't solve the long term issue but it might be a start. But people will get fat of pasta,bread, rice, McDonald's, pretty much anything not just sugar. Plus by saying sugar you open yourself up to a world of legal issues. What's sugar? Glucose, fructose, sucrose? And to which degree do you tax each? Do you include fruit in your tax? It's not easy, but most current research is pointing to sugar as being the main culprit. But general poor diet and lack of exercise doesn't help. What is the alternative? Sit back and watch an escalating problem get worse or try and find a solution? But you mossed the issue. Taxing won't fix it. Taxing simply raises a massive amount of other issues. Especially as other r simple refined carbs are widely accessible. But on the other hand look at it this way we have reached a point as a sociality that one of the biggest problems we face is "food is too abundant". Just think about that. Not sure I've missed the issue, we have an NHS funding crisis which is getting worse as a result of a massively ageing demographic and an increasingly unhealthy and obese population. Taxing things like sugar, processed food, takeaways may not be the answer, but as a nation we are getting fatter, doing nothing will not address that. The issue is what is sugar. Define it for me. Cause there's billions of pounds up for grabs for weasling out of that definition There is plenty of evidence to suggest that sugar substitutes contribute to weight gain, but I'm no scientist. There is a direct correlation between the growth in processed food and average weight in the UK and the associated health issues are now putting increasing strain on the NHS and this is likely to get worse before it gets better. Some radical policies should be considered and debated." Define sugar substitute. Do you mean fructose? As it's sweeter than glucose and so used to artifical sweeten things without raising calories as much. Or things such as artifical sweeteners which your body can't metabolise (they do not contain nor are convertible to glucose so cannot go through he crebs cycle) Processed food again is a stupid term. Frozen food is processed food that includes veg that is frozen within an hour of picking. | |||
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"Bring back compulsory home economics for boys and girls and impose a massive sugar tax. Won't solve the long term issue but it might be a start. But people will get fat of pasta,bread, rice, McDonald's, pretty much anything not just sugar. Plus by saying sugar you open yourself up to a world of legal issues. What's sugar? Glucose, fructose, sucrose? And to which degree do you tax each? Do you include fruit in your tax? It's not easy, but most current research is pointing to sugar as being the main culprit. But general poor diet and lack of exercise doesn't help. What is the alternative? Sit back and watch an escalating problem get worse or try and find a solution? But you mossed the issue. Taxing won't fix it. Taxing simply raises a massive amount of other issues. Especially as other r simple refined carbs are widely accessible. But on the other hand look at it this way we have reached a point as a sociality that one of the biggest problems we face is "food is too abundant". Just think about that. Not sure I've missed the issue, we have an NHS funding crisis which is getting worse as a result of a massively ageing demographic and an increasingly unhealthy and obese population. Taxing things like sugar, processed food, takeaways may not be the answer, but as a nation we are getting fatter, doing nothing will not address that. The issue is what is sugar. Define it for me. Cause there's billions of pounds up for grabs for weasling out of that definition There is plenty of evidence to suggest that sugar substitutes contribute to weight gain, but I'm no scientist. There is a direct correlation between the growth in processed food and average weight in the UK and the associated health issues are now putting increasing strain on the NHS and this is likely to get worse before it gets better. Some radical policies should be considered and debated. Define sugar substitute. Do you mean fructose? As it's sweeter than glucose and so used to artifical sweeten things without raising calories as much. Or things such as artifical sweeteners which your body can't metabolise (they do not contain nor are convertible to glucose so cannot go through he crebs cycle) Processed food again is a stupid term. Frozen food is processed food that includes veg that is frozen within an hour of picking." You clearly have more scientific knowledge than me for which I applaud you. Perhaps you can suggest some potential solutions rather than highlighting flaws in others? The fact remains that obesity has ballooned in the last 30-40 years to a point where it is now a major issue for our NHS and all the forecasts suggest it is going to get much worse. So what do you suggest we do? I am intrigued to hear your thoughts. | |||
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"You know nothing of what I do or don't eat. This is my point, you're making assumptions that aren't correct. So you're made of magic and defy the laws of thermodynamics? Cause I'll admit I'm not well versed in magic as oposed to science. No, I'm one of the tiny minority that has a ton of medical stuff that makes losing weight very difficult. Not dieting, that's easy, but my body doesn't like to give up what it's got. And my consultant endocrinologist, GP and dietician will all tell you the same. So stop judging people you don't even know. I'd thought you seemed like a reasonable person before this." Knowing a number of doctors they aren't confused they aren't stumped they're sat down saying (whelp she's lied about her food diary again....) What you're arguing for here is perpetual motion BTW. Oh and as for your last point, I'm always reasonable to people until my reasonableness disagrees with their narrative. You need atp massive amounts of it, more than your body weight in it. Your body has to produce it or you die. Your body physically will not hold fat muscle or pretty much any tissue if it means sacrificing it's production of atp. If you damage your body's ability to produce atp it will produce it at a rate of waste that you will literally die from the excess heat of its production. So saying "my body doesn't like to give up what it's got" is nonsense you would be dead if that was true. | |||
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"I just don't understand why it's a problem. If someone is happy in their own skin leave them be I say
It's a problem because - like smoking - it's a huge drain on the nhs! However - though the government can recoup some of the nhs costs of smokers with tax on tobacco - there's currently no way of recouping costs from the obese! I'm guessing that's where the sugar tax comes in if it's put in place!
Personally I think they'd be far better funding cookery lessons every week throughout a child's education! If every adolescent/young adult knows how to cook a delicious, cheap nutritious meal that tastes ten times better than any ready meal then the next generation will be healthy - problem solved!
Currently the UK eats more ready meals than the rest of Europe put together! Pretty awful really! And I must confess I buy them sometimes! "That's my fault, I buy a ready meal every day. But this is serious stuff and I had no idea women are so adversely affected and I think we ought to applaud the Chief Medical Officer for raising awareness of this. | |||
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"Being over weight gets a lot of bad press whilst I understand the health complications that can be a result of it, it's actually far more hazardous to your health to be underweight but that isn't publicised to be an issue " Very true | |||
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"Watching this debate on Sky News - it is all getting a bit animated. One woman comparing the risk of obesity is greater than the risk of terrorism and another woman calling the assumption nonsense. Obesity is more likely to affect a greater number of people in this country, than terroristic acts." As long as you are obese in the right places, I am happy. | |||
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"I've no idea what atp is and I have conditions that carry the symptom of 'difficulty to lose weight'. Facts. As for insinuating I am a liar that's really unnecessary and downright rude. Though obviously you know best. I only disagree with you because I now what's going on in my life not because I want to disagree for fun. But if you'd rather I just agree with you then fine I shall. You're so amazing aren't you "Ato is Adenosine triphosphate it it's the chemical your body uses for all its energy needs. Resperation is the production of atp. It is the thing that powers everything in your body from every proton pump to every twitch of muscle fibre. Your body will literally die, not get sick fall down dead OK the floor if you do not produce your atp (iirc it's over 10 times your body weight a day of the stuff). Chemicals such as DNP radically reduce your bodies ability to produce atp. (You day you know nutrition but you don't know what the krebs cycle is???) And your body will kill itself with the excess heat produced just to try and make atp. You eat more than you need that's it. | |||
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"Being over weight gets a lot of bad press whilst I understand the health complications that can be a result of it, it's actually far more hazardous to your health to be underweight but that isn't publicised to be an issue Very true " But proportionally far more are overweight than underweight, hence the focus i would have thought! | |||
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"Oh yeah discovery I'm 13 stone BTW. Not 10 :p. Muscle ducks bmi not hat I'm particularly muscular at 19% bf I'm diabetic (not type 2 through weight) so I would like to think my knowledge on the subject is fairly good, my bmi is 26.5 which I know is high and I wouldn't be as challenging with my comments as you are, love your profile and pics but dude your doing yourself no favours with the fuller figured ladies especially when your a stocky lad and your not a dr or nutritionist xx " I honestly don't use the forum to get sex so I really don't care if I am "doing myself no favours with the fuller figured ladies". Sorry but I'm not about to blow smoke up the ass of others | |||
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"Oh yeah discovery I'm 13 stone BTW. Not 10 :p. Muscle ducks bmi not hat I'm particularly muscular at 19% bf I'm diabetic (not type 2 through weight) so I would like to think my knowledge on the subject is fairly good, my bmi is 26.5 which I know is high and I wouldn't be as challenging with my comments as you are, love your profile and pics but dude your doing yourself no favours with the fuller figured ladies especially when your a stocky lad and your not a dr or nutritionist xx I honestly don't use the forum to get sex so I really don't care if I am "doing myself no favours with the fuller figured ladies". Sorry but I'm not about to blow smoke up the ass of others " I didn't say u used forums for sex!? | |||
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"Oh yeah discovery I'm 13 stone BTW. Not 10 :p. Muscle ducks bmi not hat I'm particularly muscular at 19% bf I'm diabetic (not type 2 through weight) so I would like to think my knowledge on the subject is fairly good, my bmi is 26.5 which I know is high and I wouldn't be as challenging with my comments as you are, love your profile and pics but dude your doing yourself no favours with the fuller figured ladies especially when your a stocky lad and your not a dr or nutritionist xx I honestly don't use the forum to get sex so I really don't care if I am "doing myself no favours with the fuller figured ladies". Sorry but I'm not about to blow smoke up the ass of others I didn't say u used forums for sex!? " Well you said I'm doing my self no favours with fuller figured women. Why would I care? Seriously. I do myself no favours with all sorts of people on here I'm not about to lie or change who I am to gain favour lol. | |||
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"Oh yeah discovery I'm 13 stone BTW. Not 10 :p. Muscle ducks bmi not hat I'm particularly muscular at 19% bf I'm diabetic (not type 2 through weight) so I would like to think my knowledge on the subject is fairly good, my bmi is 26.5 which I know is high and I wouldn't be as challenging with my comments as you are, love your profile and pics but dude your doing yourself no favours with the fuller figured ladies especially when your a stocky lad and your not a dr or nutritionist xx I honestly don't use the forum to get sex so I really don't care if I am "doing myself no favours with the fuller figured ladies". Sorry but I'm not about to blow smoke up the ass of others I didn't say u used forums for sex!? Well you said I'm doing my self no favours with fuller figured women. Why would I care? Seriously. I do myself no favours with all sorts of people on here I'm not about to lie or change who I am to gain favour lol." ok enjoy your night | |||
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"Having been horrendously overweight all my life I had all the usual so called "weigh gaining" shit against me, pcos, medication the works. Having lost over 12 stone I found out why I couldn't lose weight, I just didn't want to do it enough. Every single bloody test, vitamin test, blood pressure is perfect, however, my bmi although in the normal range is at the high end and my doctor has told me he does not want me to lose anymore weight. He said he's surprised it's coming in at what it is but to take no notice. I have no idea now many years ive added to my life " .congrats that's a fantasic achievement
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"Having been horrendously overweight all my life I had all the usual so called "weigh gaining" shit against me, pcos, medication the works. Having lost over 12 stone I found out why I couldn't lose weight, I just didn't want to do it enough. Every single bloody test, vitamin test, blood pressure is perfect, however, my bmi although in the normal range is at the high end and my doctor has told me he does not want me to lose anymore weight. He said he's surprised it's coming in at what it is but to take no notice. I have no idea now many years ive added to my life " Well done you xx | |||
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" Ato is Adenosine triphosphate it it's the chemical your body uses for all its energy needs. Resperation is the production of atp. It is the thing that powers everything in your body from every proton pump to every twitch of muscle fibre. Your body will literally die, not get sick fall down dead OK the floor if you do not produce your atp (iirc it's over 10 times your body weight a day of the stuff). Chemicals such as DNP radically reduce your bodies ability to produce atp. (You day you know nutrition but you don't know what the krebs cycle is???) And your body will kill itself with the excess heat produced just to try and make atp. You eat more than you need that's it." Yes boss | |||
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"I read an article today about BMI and how it doesn't take height into account well enough so tends to understate small people's obesity and overstate tall people's. It suggested weight/height^2.5 was a better measure than weight/height^2. Being an obese tall person who comes out alright on all the other measures (body fat %, waist to height ratio, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar etc) I would think this, wouldn't I, but I do think there's something to be said for moving away from BMI as the be all and end all. " I think BMI is flawed. I've recently been on a machine that somehow measures your muscle, fat and water ratios. Despite being fat I was told my rations are not bad at all. | |||
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"I read an article today about BMI and how it doesn't take height into account well enough so tends to understate small people's obesity and overstate tall people's. It suggested weight/height^2.5 was a better measure than weight/height^2. Being an obese tall person who comes out alright on all the other measures (body fat %, waist to height ratio, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar etc) I would think this, wouldn't I, but I do think there's something to be said for moving away from BMI as the be all and end all. " As a very short person i disagree  | |||
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"I read an article today about BMI and how it doesn't take height into account well enough so tends to understate small people's obesity and overstate tall people's. It suggested weight/height^2.5 was a better measure than weight/height^2. Being an obese tall person who comes out alright on all the other measures (body fat %, waist to height ratio, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar etc) I would think this, wouldn't I, but I do think there's something to be said for moving away from BMI as the be all and end all. " The thing is bmi is the only measures we have that's not overly labour intensive to administer. Calipering everyone is far too difficult. As it stands it's a good basic means before you can go onto more advanced measure such as ture body fat percentages, colesterol, blood pressure etc. | |||
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"Oh, and that waist size was a far better indicator for risk of diabetes etc than just weight itself. If you carry it all round your waist with skinny arms and legs you might well weigh less than someone who carries theirs evenly but you're more at risk. And so endeth my list of reasons of the day why it's ok that I weigh approximately 4 tons "Yeah,the thing is ruby here probably weighs the same if not more than me but, and I doubt I'm alone in saying this, looks great for it. But could likely do with losing 16lb or so . However I'd wager quite happily hight to waist she comes out favourably. | |||
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"Oh this will make you laugh, my blood pressure and cholesterol are always normal. I get checked every 6 months and most recent was September." Great blood pressure and colesterol of course are not related to body fat strictly. Every single guy in Mr universe will be high blood pressure and high colesterol due to steroids. | |||
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Yeah,the thing is ruby here probably weighs the same if not more than me but, and I doubt I'm alone in saying this, looks great for it.
But could likely do with losing 16lb or so .
However I'd wager quite happily hight to waist she comes out favourably. "I will weigh at least 3 stone more than you, I guarantee it. On BMI I have to lose 4 1/2 to be healthy. Because it's such a big number, it just makes me think fuck it, I won't even bother. My waist is fine because it's less than half my height even currently when I'm porked up for winter. | |||
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Yeah,the thing is ruby here probably weighs the same if not more than me but, and I doubt I'm alone in saying this, looks great for it.
But could likely do with losing 16lb or so .
However I'd wager quite happily hight to waist she comes out favourably.
I will weigh at least 3 stone more than you, I guarantee it. On BMI I have to lose 4 1/2 to be healthy. Because it's such a big number, it just makes me think fuck it, I won't even bother. My waist is fine because it's less than half my height even currently when I'm porked up for winter. "16st? I always had you pegged at 14st tbh As i said waist to hight I thought you'd do well. But I'll admit my knowledge fails beyond the chemical and mathematical level as I've never researched the fat distribution vs quantity for effect. My main goal had been keeping it down as a whole due to my medication and it's main side effects being weight gain | |||
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"I read an article today about BMI and how it doesn't take height into account well enough so tends to understate small people's obesity and overstate tall people's. It suggested weight/height^2.5 was a better measure than weight/height^2. Being an obese tall person who comes out alright on all the other measures (body fat %, waist to height ratio, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar etc) I would think this, wouldn't I, but I do think there's something to be said for moving away from BMI as the be all and end all. " I'm not sure anyone uses it as the be all and end all but for most of the population it is probably a fair indication. And if it throws up something at either end of the scale then that is the moment you see the professionals who will assess properly? | |||
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"Well it's that or your tissue samples are worth trillions of pounds and are the solution to all mankind's energy problems. I'll get that tested, but I won't share with you "Seriously if what you and your friend who pm'd me is true, you are sitting on more money than all the oil reserves in the world. | |||
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"But I'll admit my knowledge fails beyond the chemical and mathematical level as I've never researched the fat distribution vs quantity for effect. My main goal had been keeping it down as a whole due to my medication and it's main side effects being weight gain " So you can have side effects, cool | |||
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"That's perfect, I looked at your pics and you have a perfect figure. Ignore them please for your own sake. I didn't match the 'chart' when I was 13 and i was put on an 800 calorie a day diet during puberty. I stole some raisins as I was genuinely hungry and got told off. After that I've spent more energy on not eating than eating." I know I'm not perfect but it made me wonder if I listened to them would I look any better | |||
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"But I'll admit my knowledge fails beyond the chemical and mathematical level as I've never researched the fat distribution vs quantity for effect. My main goal had been keeping it down as a whole due to my medication and it's main side effects being weight gain So you can have side effects, cool "Yep but I think I probe that despite being adage and ice cream addict they aren't an issue The side effect is cravings, not magic. My slightly higher than I'd like bf is due to my utter lack of will power and the deliciousness of ice cream | |||
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"But their body fat will be sub 3% on stage Am loving all the science, but still waiting to hear your thoughts on finding a solution?" Just judges, pot n kettle spring to mind lol xx | |||
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"I read an article today about BMI and how it doesn't take height into account well enough so tends to understate small people's obesity and overstate tall people's. It suggested weight/height^2.5 was a better measure than weight/height^2. Being an obese tall person who comes out alright on all the other measures (body fat %, waist to height ratio, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar etc) I would think this, wouldn't I, but I do think there's something to be said for moving away from BMI as the be all and end all. I'm not sure anyone uses it as the be all and end all but for most of the population it is probably a fair indication. And if it throws up something at either end of the scale then that is the moment you see the professionals who will assess properly?" BMI is used to decide eligibility for some NHS treatments. With no other factors taken into account. | |||
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"Well it's that or your tissue samples are worth trillions of pounds and are the solution to all mankind's energy problems. I'll get that tested, but I won't share with you
Seriously if what you and your friend who pm'd me is true, you are sitting on more money than all the oil reserves in the world. "I have an eating disorder, I don't like food at all. Anyone who really knows me and spends time with me knows I don't eat enough and they reckon my body is doing that starvation mode thing. I am seeing a dietician to make me eat breakfast and real meals. I'm so used to not bothering to eat that I genuinely forget. My friend has started reminding me to at least have a breakfast. I'll eat a meal in a restaurant or at someone's house but I don't bother for myself at home. | |||
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"But I'll admit my knowledge fails beyond the chemical and mathematical level as I've never researched the fat distribution vs quantity for effect. My main goal had been keeping it down as a whole due to my medication and it's main side effects being weight gain So you can have side effects, cool
Yep but I think I probe that despite being adage and ice cream addict they aren't an issue
The side effect is cravings, not magic.
My slightly higher than I'd like bf is due to my utter lack of will power and the deliciousness of ice cream "Try Frill or frozen yoghurt (Moo is my favourite). | |||
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" I'd rather be fat and die than thin, demented and incontinent. " I don't think you get to choose. | |||
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"I read an article today about BMI and how it doesn't take height into account well enough so tends to understate small people's obesity and overstate tall people's. It suggested weight/height^2.5 was a better measure than weight/height^2. Being an obese tall person who comes out alright on all the other measures (body fat %, waist to height ratio, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar etc) I would think this, wouldn't I, but I do think there's something to be said for moving away from BMI as the be all and end all. I'm not sure anyone uses it as the be all and end all but for most of the population it is probably a fair indication. And if it throws up something at either end of the scale then that is the moment you see the professionals who will assess properly? BMI is used to decide eligibility for some NHS treatments. With no other factors taken into account. " Which treatments? | |||
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"Oh, and that waist size was a far better indicator for risk of diabetes etc than just weight itself. If you carry it all round your waist with skinny arms and legs you might well weigh less than someone who carries theirs evenly but you're more at risk. And so endeth my list of reasons of the day why it's ok that I weigh approximately 4 tons
Yeah,the thing is ruby here probably weighs the same if not more than me but, and I doubt I'm alone in saying this, looks great for it.
But could likely do with losing 16lb or so .
However I'd wager quite happily hight to waist she comes out favourably.
I will weigh at least 3 stone more than you, I guarantee it. On BMI I have to lose 4 1/2 to be healthy. Because it's such a big number, it just makes me think fuck it, I won't even bother. My waist is fine because it's less than half my height even currently when I'm porked up for winter.
16st? I always had you pegged at 14st tbh
As i said waist to hight I thought you'd do well.
But I'll admit my knowledge fails beyond the chemical and mathematical level as I've never researched the fat distribution vs quantity for effect.
My main goal had been keeping it down as a whole due to my medication and it's main side effects being weight gain
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" I'd rather be fat and die than thin, demented and incontinent. I don't think you get to choose." I'm am choosing - that's my point. I don't intend to live at the point of dementia. | |||
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" I'd rather be fat and die than thin, demented and incontinent. I don't think you get to choose. I'm am choosing - that's my point. I don't intend to live at the point of dementia. " I meant you don't get to choose if you get dementia, it can hit young. Obviously I hope it doesn't hit you and you live a long, dementia free life | |||
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"I meant you don't get to choose if you get dementia, it can hit young. Obviously I hope it doesn't hit you and you live a long, dementia free life "My Nan lived to 101 and only went a bit 'funny' in the last few years. | |||
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