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"anyone on here in the media and tell me why they continue to try and knock somoeone who most people wish nothing but well of? From what people i know who have met him or sparred him say he is a decent guy, hardly a saint, which he will admit himself so why does the media keep bringing up non stories just to promote the bad side of him? its not just fury is it, the media seem more interested in negative news than good news" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"anyone on here in the media and tell me why they continue to try and knock somoeone who most people wish nothing but well of? From what people i know who have met him or sparred him say he is a decent guy, hardly a saint, which he will admit himself so why does the media keep bringing up non stories just to promote the bad side of him? its not just fury is it, the media seem more interested in negative news than good news" The press can make snow whites shit smell if they liked. just typical press love negativity | |||
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"No matter what we think of him personally i still believe we should be more supportive and happy that the uk has a new champion! " What?!! Gee...the shit that gets posted on here. | |||
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"Probably because every time he opens his mouth, another load of shit pours out. Racist, homophobic, sexist.... you name it, he spouts it!" its hard to disagree.. bloke is an embarrassment to his 'sport'.. | |||
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"Probably because every time he opens his mouth, another load of shit pours out. Racist, homophobic, sexist.... you name it, he spouts it!" This. If he was a footballer saying what he says he would be banned for years to come | |||
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"He's media unfashionable, a pikey and a twat. Need any more reasons?" The correct terminology is Traveller. Not the only Twat is he.... | |||
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"Probably because he's an egotistical knob head who talks nothing but shit. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"He's media unfashionable, a pikey and a twat. Need any more reasons? The correct terminology is Traveller. Not the only Twat is he.... " Lol ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Say what you like about Fury, simple fact is, he's the world champion! Whether you like his style, persona or whatever. If you think you can do better, step in the ring with him. Show us how it should be done if you can? No? Thought so. ![]() most people are not questioning his boxing ability, its his repulsive views which most decent people find offensive.. | |||
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"Say what you like about Fury, simple fact is, he's the world champion! Whether you like his style, persona or whatever. If you think you can do better, step in the ring with him. Show us how it should be done if you can? No? Thought so. ![]() Totally agree ![]() | |||
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"Say what you like about Fury, simple fact is, he's the world champion! Whether you like his style, persona or whatever. If you think you can do better, step in the ring with him. Show us how it should be done if you can? No? Thought so. ![]() His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() | |||
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"Say what you like about Fury, simple fact is, he's the world champion! Whether you like his style, persona or whatever. If you think you can do better, step in the ring with him. Show us how it should be done if you can? No? Thought so. ![]() Mike Tyson was just as bad, in fact didn't he get charged with rape?!. but people still like him. Say what you will, He's a great boxer, what he does or doesn't say shouldn't distract from that. | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() So racism should go unchallenged if someone is highly skilled at something? | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() No one on here challenged the guy further up the post for being racist did they?! One rule for a celebrity & one for a swinger? Hmmm..... | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() So Tyson being called a "pikey" is acceptable? | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() ![]() | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() According to your own argument, yes! | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() And by your own reply, you're saying your view is irrelevant then? ![]() | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() ![]() I haven't given a view at all. | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() ![]() You did, you brought up the racism card.. ![]() | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() ![]() ![]() It was a *question*, looking for clarification on the degree to which anyone's "personal opinions" could be overlooked given their sporting prowess. If you think I'm either racist or supportive of racists based on that, report me. | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() ![]() ![]() Wow. Calm down dear it's only a forum. ![]() ![]() | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() ![]() ![]() I wasn't defending or attacking anything he may have said. I was simply making the point that people on this thread have made similar comments about him that they feel he's done to others but, wouldn't stand in the ring like he does to back up what he says. Outside opinions on a persons life should have no relevance on them as everyone lives their life differently. ![]() | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() No one's answered mine, either. That's the way it goes sometimes. | |||
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"I was simply making the point that people on this thread have made similar comments about him that they feel he's done to others but, wouldn't stand in the ring like he does to back up what he says. " He stands in the ring to fight for making abortion illegal? | |||
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" His views should be irrelevant. Personal choice and all that. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sure is. Some Folk only want to hear the sound of their own voices, or in the forum, the sound of their own keyboard. Oh well, don't really care. Off to bed now. | |||
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"anyone on here in the media and tell me why they continue to try and knock somoeone who most people wish nothing but well of? From what people i know who have met him or sparred him say he is a decent guy, hardly a saint, which he will admit himself so why does the media keep bringing up non stories just to promote the bad side of him? its not just fury is it, the media seem more interested in negative news than good news" Negative news always makes the majority of the news, just watch the news on TV every night, but how can he complain about bad publicity when that's precisely what he gives to the media himself to try & promote a fight & make more coin? Live & die by the sword, & all that jazz.... | |||
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"May I just say to the person who brought the pikey term to the table,to use it in a derogatory manner such as you did speaks volumes about yourself especially considering the ironic fact you are using it to condemn another person for the terminology he uses." My point exactly. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"May I just say to the person who brought the pikey term to the table,to use it in a derogatory manner such as you did speaks volumes about yourself especially considering the ironic fact you are using it to condemn another person for the terminology he uses. My point exactly. ![]() ![]() 100% agree miss naughty It's pretty poor form condemning someone for poor taste using the same in return | |||
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"The fact of the matter is regardless of whether his opinion is right or not he is entitled to it,he grew up in the travelling community where homosexuality is probably more taboo than in any other society,his views would have been bred into him from birth so before condemning him for his views people should look at a way of changing hearts and minds." Who is saying he isn't entitled to his opinion? No ones saying he should be thrown in jail. People are just giving their opinions in return. If he and his supporters can't take that then he should keep his thoughts to himself. As to winning in hearts and minds, you dont change bigotry by ignoring it or accepting it. So what if his community is homophobic, its not a free pass. | |||
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"The fact of the matter is regardless of whether his opinion is right or not he is entitled to it,he grew up in the travelling community where homosexuality is probably more taboo than in any other society,his views would have been bred into him from birth so before condemning him for his views people should look at a way of changing hearts and minds. Who is saying he isn't entitled to his opinion? No ones saying he should be thrown in jail. People are just giving their opinions in return. If he and his supporters can't take that then he should keep his thoughts to himself. As to winning in hearts and minds, you dont change bigotry by ignoring it or accepting it. So what if his community is homophobic, its not a free pass." I am not saying it is a free pass but when a person is brought up in a certain way it is quite difficult for them to see anything else,I myself by the way am no fan of his but I do think that his mindset has been drummed into him practically from birth and it's hard for a person in that mindset to see they are wrong until they are re-educated | |||
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"No matter how you are brought up, bigotry is naff. " I agree totally but if a person wholeheartedly believes in something then society as a whole needs to look at the education of people from these minority groups to bring them in line with normal non radical thinking.Alas some people would be bigots regardless. | |||
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"His achievement in becoming World Champ isn't up for debate,his comments are. He has come across a certain way,and I wondered if he'd been misquoted or quoted out of context,but he was on Radio2 earlier to confirm it all ![]() Saw him on the news earlier, he said he is currently the biggest personality in British sport. ![]() | |||
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"His achievement in becoming World Champ isn't up for debate,his comments are. He has come across a certain way,and I wondered if he'd been misquoted or quoted out of context,but he was on Radio2 earlier to confirm it all ![]() ![]() Currently the biggest prat. | |||
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"Obviously there are not many ex boxers on here , i boxed for many years only as an amateur and to even turn pro is a monumental achievement , let alone win the heavyweight championship of the world As for his attitude well the media and promotors have done that to sell him , i have met Anthony Joshua a few times and a more lovely guy you would never meet but the tv are trying to make him a bad boy and its just not working he couldnt b nasty if he tried !! Until he gets in the ring then hes a real bad ass We should get behind our boys , they are literaly putting their lives on the line for our entertainment (sorry about the rant lol ) " I'm not totally sure what you are trying to say. 1, he has done well to turn pro, even better to win the belt. Well this doesn't give him a free pass to be abusive. 2, he's a product of media promotion. If he's happy to have the media/promoters make him a bigot in order to make money, then I'm not sure that improves his position. 3, We should get behind our boys. Even if they are bigoted? Does this still work if they are racist, or criminal? I think not. | |||
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"Don't worry people. When Anthony Joshua Knocks him out in the second round, you wont hear much more from him" They said that about Klitschko though! Considering Joshua is nowhere near Furys level yet I wouldn't hold my breath on a second round ko. | |||
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"Don't worry people. When Anthony Joshua Knocks him out in the second round, you wont hear much more from him They said that about Klitschko though! Considering Joshua is nowhere near Furys level yet I wouldn't hold my breath on a second round ko." Tyson was scaring the shit out of the division when he was a bairn and knocking opponents out for fun.Fury has no level the division is really poor,it's his height and awkwardness that gets him through. Give Joshua ten more fights and I reckon he'd sort Fury out in no time. | |||
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"Don't worry people. When Anthony Joshua Knocks him out in the second round, you wont hear much more from him They said that about Klitschko though! Considering Joshua is nowhere near Furys level yet I wouldn't hold my breath on a second round ko." AJ would knock him out NOW I neither like or dislike Tyson Fury, as people have said, the heavyweight division is poor. But Tyson Fury is at present king of it. He has already stated, he wont give David Haye a shot at the titles, I personally think, Haye would beat him as well | |||
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"never has a world champion been such a wanker mr" Didn't Herbie Hide once hold a version of the title? | |||
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"Mike Tyson by the way,a real boxer." Yep showed it against Holyfield..... | |||
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"Mike Tyson by the way,a real boxer. Yep showed it against Holyfield..... " Tyson avoided Lennox Lewis and Mitchell Green, two boxers that he knew had the tools to beat him. | |||
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"Mike Tyson by the way,a real boxer. Yep showed it against Holyfield..... " In his prime he was unstoppable.Before he self destructed!! As a human being on the other hand a bit of a dark character to say the least. | |||
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"Mike Tyson by the way,a real boxer." He was a street fighter, effective yes but not a boxer | |||
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"Mike Tyson by the way,a real boxer. He was a street fighter, effective yes but not a boxer" In terms of a classy boxer like sugar ray Leonard no he wasn't. But he was simply unstoppable in his pomp.Which made him a great fighter. He would destroy anything out there now in his heyday without breaking sweat. | |||
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"Seems a bit of a cock tbh. The comments he made about how he'd hang his sister if she was promiscuous...erm, honour killing, anyone?" Class act eh! | |||
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"Seems a bit of a cock tbh. The comments he made about how he'd hang his sister if she was promiscuous...erm, honour killing, anyone?" Fuck me and I thought the other bollox he spouted was bad enough! BBC take that man off ya list, he isn't a good role model for the sport in my opinion | |||
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"If i remember Ali said some shocking stuff about Joe Frasier before their fight, but he is put up as some sort of intellectual boxer. I don't agree with anything Fury has said, but boxing is a macho sport and the fighters know controversy sells tickets/pay per view audience. And don't forget that Ali addressed KKK meetings as well...but he is the greatest and opens the Olympics The reason most footballers don't come out with similar stuff as Fury has is the are PR trained to an inch of their life from an early age, so to get them to say anything that isn't a cliched soundbite would be an achievement in itself. " | |||
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"Mike Tyson by the way,a real boxer. He was a street fighter, effective yes but not a boxer" Just a street fighter, at the height of his career possibly the most devastating boxer the world has ever seen! | |||
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"anyone on here in the media and tell me why they continue to try and knock somoeone who most people wish nothing but well of? From what people i know who have met him or sparred him say he is a decent guy, hardly a saint, which he will admit himself so why does the media keep bringing up non stories just to promote the bad side of him? its not just fury is it, the media seem more interested in negative news than good news" its life my friend if you have an opinion about something and he has then their will be a 1000 people who disagree with that opinion ,it would be pretty bad let's face it to say anything about gay people on here and it seems it is out there to so he will have to take the back lash, he has broad shoulders he can take it ,so he doesn't win sports personality of the year who cares as long as he wins his next fight ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Probably because every time he opens his mouth, another load of shit pours out. Racist, homophobic, sexist.... you name it, he spouts it!" what he said ^^ ![]() | |||
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"He says it as he sees it - and fair play to him. The number of people who I have worked with who have said "I`m not a racist or homophobic" - and then get them out for a few beers - and you discover the exact opposite is true! At least Fury has the spine to speak his own mind - I'll credit him with that" What do you think the problem is then- the 'beers' or the people you are mixing with?? | |||
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"I've got a few things to say on this subject. 1. He's been stripped of one of his belts which love him or hate him is a complete farce. 2. A BBC news presenter just called him a dick head on live TV ..... ![]() ![]() Re point 3. Why's it called sports personality then and not sports person? | |||
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"I've got a few things to say on this subject. 1. He's been stripped of one of his belts which love him or hate him is a complete farce. 2. A BBC news presenter just called him a dick head on live TV ..... ![]() ![]() Quite. | |||
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"IBF stated no rematch clause, to keep the division active, Fury went against that so he was stripped of the belt. No farce " ![]() | |||
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"I've got a few things to say on this subject. 1. He's been stripped of one of his belts which love him or hate him is a complete farce. 2. A BBC news presenter just called him a dick head on live TV ..... ![]() ![]() Honestly I don't know. Here's the actual description of the award... "Awarded to the sportsperson "whose actions have most captured the public's imagination"" | |||
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"because unfortunately this day and age we must pander to the PC lot and all the treehuggers..... " I don't understand why when someone gets called out by others for his or her views, those calling them out are classed as 'PC' or as a 'tree hugger' I far from fit into either category, but I do know right from wrong and appropriate from inappropriate. | |||
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