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"I'm not up to speed on the whole dom/sub culture but I do not think the dom is supposed to make the sub cry practically daily by being an asshole to the sub or maybe I am wrong?" I've always suspected, at least some, Doms use it as an excuse for abuse. What needs to happen is she walks away from him. | |||
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"Why do you want to walk away if she's so special? " That's my conundrum,when I knew she had a dom,our initial meets were coffee and chats,she told me she is very unhappy with this guy and he is constantly hurting her mentally,I do not know about the sub/dom thing so I do not want to interfere in it without invitation,she is a very sweet girl and usually in these situations I coud walk away without so much as a backwards glance but I guess it's the Princess in the tower scenario I don not wish to just abandon her if she indeed needs help from me.Perhaps I am being a total fool. | |||
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"Does she think you are special enough to leave him?" I don't think I am special at all no,but she has a certain je ne sais quoi. | |||
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"Why do you want to walk away if she's so special? That's my conundrum,when I knew she had a dom,our initial meets were coffee and chats,she told me she is very unhappy with this guy and he is constantly hurting her mentally,I do not know about the sub/dom thing so I do not want to interfere in it without invitation,she is a very sweet girl and usually in these situations I coud walk away without so much as a backwards glance but I guess it's the Princess in the tower scenario I don not wish to just abandon her if she indeed needs help from me.Perhaps I am being a total fool." Have you asked her if she wants out for the D/s relationship she is in? | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, " I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this. | |||
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"I don not wish to just abandon her if she indeed needs help from me.Perhaps I am being a total fool." I think you are being a decent guy. She needs to get aways from what is so horrible for her. If you can help her, regardless of whether you end up together then you will have done a goo thing. In my opinion anyway. | |||
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"I dont mean to sound horrible, but if someone I was dating was crying everyday about another woman... I would walk away as clearly there is some emotional attachment to the other woman Im to selfish to be someone,s shoulder to cry on.. Meeting someone new is meant to be fun and intense and full of cant wait to see you to rip your clothes off... Not handing over tissues to wipe up tears " Our initial meeting was nothing to do with a sexual relationship it was just as two people who met, I know what you mean but perhaps I an too empathic to do what you said. | |||
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"I don not wish to just abandon her if she indeed needs help from me.Perhaps I am being a total fool. I think you are being a decent guy. She needs to get aways from what is so horrible for her. If you can help her, regardless of whether you end up together then you will have done a goo thing. In my opinion anyway." I don't think we will end up together I just see this lovely person knowing she is in a bad situation (not always) and I would hate to think I am not man enough to be there for her but at the same time if she chooses to take the mental abuse and stay with this guy how long do I offer to be her shoulder? | |||
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"I don't know if you can do any more than just being a friendly shoulder to lean on? She needs to sort this out, you can't do it for her. But I guess you know that! I suppose she will leave when she has had enough, who knows when that will be! And you may have had enough of supporting her by then. But it's lovely that you want to be there for her. Good luck x" Saved me typing | |||
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"But your friend must not have the same feelings toward you... As she has had no thought as to how it makes you feel talking about another man... I know I sound blunt, but that how im seeing it :-/" No she doesn't have the same feelings but regardless whether she did or not I just feel if I walked away and something happened I would feel like a total wanker. | |||
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"Are you the only person she talks to about this? If so if you walk away from her she might lose the only person she can confide in but that be said, what's your state of mind like? How are you coping? " | |||
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"It sounds like she is an emotional abusive relationship. How does she feel about her own self worth. Lifestyle choices should be fun and not to make you cry or feel lousy about yourself. Talk to her be there as a friend but keep a relationship off the table until she is feeling stronger also there are some very good helplines out there. There is so many layers of domestic abuse. Bruises heal its the emotional scars that last a lifetime x" I would not try to start a relationship with her on the back of this that itself I feel would be a form of abuse in so much as it would be taking advantage of someone when they are at their most vulnerable.I would not offer her more than friendship in the situation but I would love to open her eyes up to other possibilities. | |||
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"But your friend must not have the same feelings toward you... As she has had no thought as to how it makes you feel talking about another man... I know I sound blunt, but that how im seeing it :-/ No she doesn't have the same feelings but regardless whether she did or not I just feel if I walked away and something happened I would feel like a total wanker." If you dont mind me asking, are you and your lady friend in a sexual relationship ? | |||
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"Are you the only person she talks to about this? If so if you walk away from her she might lose the only person she can confide in but that be said, what's your state of mind like? How are you coping? " my emotional state as a male is if I were given the nod I would meet the guy and inform him that the abuse stops and he would have to deal with it.The trouble for me is I don't know enough about the culture to have an informed opinion.I'm thick and ugly enough to be grand in my own headspace though. | |||
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" Her relationship with this man sounds on the little you give us to go on, abusive. Based on what you've said I would say people in abusive relationships rarely leave them easily" I agree and you're right. It took me 22 years to leave mine. But if someone had maybe made me see the light earlier I might have managed it sooner. Who knows. I think the OP needs to find out what the girl actually wants. And if he can convince her that being on her own is a millions times better than being with an abuser she might have a chance. | |||
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"my emotional state as a male is if I were given the nod I would meet the guy and inform him that the abuse stops and he would have to deal with it.The trouble for me is I don't know enough about the culture to have an informed opinion.I'm thick and ugly enough to be grand in my own headspace though. " Apart from anything Dom/Sub is NOT an excuse for actually abuse. | |||
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"But your friend must not have the same feelings toward you... As she has had no thought as to how it makes you feel talking about another man... I know I sound blunt, but that how im seeing it :-/ No she doesn't have the same feelings but regardless whether she did or not I just feel if I walked away and something happened I would feel like a total wanker. If you dont mind me asking, are you and your lady friend in a sexual relationship ?" no we aren't I wouldn't think of starting one with her due to her circumstances,it would just be another thing playing on her mind. | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, " Do this OP. Every girl loves a violent man | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, Do this OP. Every girl loves a violent man " Only end up being the bad guy. | |||
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"That's not a dom. That's an arsehole. D/s is not about abuse, or damaging people. It can be quite nurturing. I havw experience with both dom and sub roles and it is not about hurting someone mentally. " Pretty much what I was thinking, not so much a Dom, more of a bully using D/s as a mask for abuse | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, Do this OP. Every girl loves a violent man Only end up being the bad guy." Do you know the man she's involved with? | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, Do this OP. Every girl loves a violent man Only end up being the bad guy." Ti clarift my post was meant sarcastically. It amazes me that anyone would suggest that violence is the answer | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, Do this OP. Every girl loves a violent man Only end up being the bad guy. Do you know the man she's involved with? " Haven't met him don't want to because as much as I swear I would not say anything to myself who knows? | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, Do this OP. Every girl loves a violent man Only end up being the bad guy. Ti clarift my post was meant sarcastically. It amazes me that anyone would suggest that violence is the answer" I'm not a believer in unnecessary aggression I preferred to get in a ring and batter the shit out of someone who is battering the shit outa me than have a laugh about it after | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this." Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, Do this OP. Every girl loves a violent man Only end up being the bad guy. Do you know the man she's involved with? Haven't met him don't want to because as much as I swear I would not say anything to myself who knows? " Hmm, I think you should be careful of the motives of all concerned, conscious and unconscious. | |||
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"That's not a dom. That's an arsehole. D/s is not about abuse, or damaging people. It can be quite nurturing. I havw experience with both dom and sub roles and it is not about hurting someone mentally. " I need to agree with this. I am in a sub/dom relationship and I can tell you now from what you have said, your friend is in a shitty relationship. If he controls her but that doesn't give her pleasure then it is wrong. I would suggest you be her go to,we all need a go to from time to time, as others have said you may be her only go to. But.... Look after yourself too and at least try to get her to see what this does to her. Ask her if she enjoys the way she is feeling, if no then it's not a d/s relationship, it's bullying. Good luck OP x | |||
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"When the bird you're fucking continues to see randoms......that's when you know to walk away lol" This chap managed to walk away before there was even a consensus | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty " That's bullshit! I spent 7 years in an abusive relationship, doesn't mean I was stupid, I had just been ground down enough not to see my worth or have the strength to leave. What an appalling thing to say. | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty " you obviously haven't read what I said,we are not in a sexual relationship at all,the thing about him kicking my ass well if it happens it happens but I can assure you bigger have tried and failed in the past although smaller have tried and succeeded,my point is I may not be the biggest out there but I can hold my own. | |||
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"That's not a dom. That's an arsehole. D/s is not about abuse, or damaging people. It can be quite nurturing. I havw experience with both dom and sub roles and it is not about hurting someone mentally. I need to agree with this. I am in a sub/dom relationship and I can tell you now from what you have said, your friend is in a shitty relationship. If he controls her but that doesn't give her pleasure then it is wrong. I would suggest you be her go to,we all need a go to from time to time, as others have said you may be her only go to. But.... Look after yourself too and at least try to get her to see what this does to her. Ask her if she enjoys the way she is feeling, if no then it's not a d/s relationship, it's bullying. Good luck OP x " Thanks missy I do feel I will stay as her as you put it go to I guess some things are more of a priority than others. | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty That's bullshit! I spent 7 years in an abusive relationship, doesn't mean I was stupid, I had just been ground down enough not to see my worth or have the strength to leave. What an appalling thing to say." I hope you are on your feet and strong now ... The post was obviously from someone with no understanding of abuse .. Some people are ignorant because they havent experienced what they post about... | |||
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"The most important thing to remember op is it is Your choice, whatever that may be . As I've gotten older I've learned to look after myself first , your own peace and well being is the most important thing and it's okay to let go of negative people . You should consider if this friendship is good for you , if it's exhausting , negative and one sided then I would walk away . Your friend makes her own choices and sometimes no matter what you do or how much you try to help and be there for someone they Will continue to make bad choices . There are also people who thrive on the attention they get by playing " the princess in the tower " . I'd really take the time to consider if the impact this is having on your life is worth it . " I couldn't of put it better if I tried. Exactly what I have just done and the relief is almost instant | |||
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"My opinion.... Rod for your own back... if she is willing to put up with abuse on a daily basis because she enjoys the dom/sub thing how needy do you think she is going to be ? Not to mention if he is as Dom as you are saying there is no way she would be talking to you because she would probably need his permission to fart let alone converse with anybody else so deeply sorry but she sounds like a drama Llama to me " Sometimes, people in abusive relationships just need someone (and I dare say it helped that I'm almost a decade older than her and quite...forthright in my views) that they can trust to be there for them, and to tell them that what they are going through just is not bloody acceptable (you may have to re-iterate this repeatedly | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty " Honest in your opinion but fucking mean too. | |||
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"if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty " You know noting of how an abusive relationship works. It's good that you don't but thinking the women are "too stupid" is pure ignorance of those situations. | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty Honest in your opinion but fucking mean too." no honesty if you stupid enough to be fooled | |||
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"Thanks again guys for all the advice,looks like there are some superstars on here after all x x x" If your help...helps, then it is just loveley seeing someone blossom once the bullshit is over. I'm very proud of my friend and consider her 'family'. | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty That's bullshit! I spent 7 years in an abusive relationship, doesn't mean I was stupid, I had just been ground down enough not to see my worth or have the strength to leave. What an appalling thing to say. I hope you are on your feet and strong now ... The post was obviously from someone with no understanding of abuse .. Some people are ignorant because they havent experienced what they post about... " Thank-you, yes me I am 11 yrs clear of it with 2 beautiful children that I have managed to raise without him, they are respectful and loving. But christ I really had to reach the bottom. I'm proud of me and my babies x | |||
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"if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty You know noting of how an abusive relationship works. It's good that you don't but thinking the women are "too stupid" is pure ignorance of those situations." okay if they are stupid they are weak mentally even knows to retaliate when it's beaten | |||
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"if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty You know noting of how an abusive relationship works. It's good that you don't but thinking the women are "too stupid" is pure ignorance of those situations.okay if they are stupid they are weak mentally even knows to retaliate when it's beaten" a dog* | |||
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"My opinion.... Rod for your own back... if she is willing to put up with abuse on a daily basis because she enjoys the dom/sub thing how needy do you think she is going to be ? Not to mention if he is as Dom as you are saying there is no way she would be talking to you because she would probably need his permission to fart let alone converse with anybody else so deeply sorry but she sounds like a drama Llama to me Sometimes, people in abusive relationships just need someone (and I dare say it helped that I'm almost a decade older than her and quite...forthright in my views) that they can trust to be there for them, and to tell them that what they are going through just is not bloody acceptable (you may have to re-iterate this repeatedly " In can be a total emotional drain on the person they are running to all the time with the same issue over and over again but who is also happy to stay in the shitty situation....like they say you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty Honest in your opinion but fucking mean too.no honesty if you stupid enough to be fooled " People that suffer from abuse are not stupid. It applies to people from all demographics. For the abuser it is a power thing and they are often very smart in their approach. I realise Fab is a fun site but it attracts all walks of life, please be mindful of the things that we say because anyone reading this could be in an abusive relationship and some of the comments could impact them significantly | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty That's bullshit! I spent 7 years in an abusive relationship, doesn't mean I was stupid, I had just been ground down enough not to see my worth or have the strength to leave. What an appalling thing to say. I hope you are on your feet and strong now ... The post was obviously from someone with no understanding of abuse .. Some people are ignorant because they havent experienced what they post about... Thank-you, yes me I am 11 yrs clear of it with 2 beautiful children that I have managed to raise without him, they are respectful and loving. But christ I really had to reach the bottom. I'm proud of me and my babies x" As you should be. | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty Honest in your opinion but fucking mean too.no honesty if you stupid enough to be fooled People that suffer from abuse are not stupid. It applies to people from all demographics. For the abuser it is a power thing and they are often very smart in their approach. I realise Fab is a fun site but it attracts all walks of life, please be mindful of the things that we say because anyone reading this could be in an abusive relationship and some of the comments could impact them significantly " its true always try and bring your positivity wherever you go. | |||
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"Yes and there is a very MASSIVE difference between an abusive relationship and a sub/dom relationship! In the latter the sub does ultimately hold the power, she just choses to submit that power, and when you can do that to someone you truly love and who loves you right back it can be very liberating.... But the difference is at any point the sub can stop it! And we do stop it! And we communicate with our partners as to where things went wrong and we adjust and move forward together. In an abusive relationship you have no say, you have no control, they do not understand stop, they do not understand communication. " | |||
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"if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty You know noting of how an abusive relationship works. It's good that you don't but thinking the women are "too stupid" is pure ignorance of those situations.okay if they are stupid they are weak mentally even knows to retaliate when it's beaten" Eventually yes they have been weakened through systematic abuse. You're an amazingly ignorant human being btw | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty That's bullshit! I spent 7 years in an abusive relationship, doesn't mean I was stupid, I had just been ground down enough not to see my worth or have the strength to leave. What an appalling thing to say. I hope you are on your feet and strong now ... The post was obviously from someone with no understanding of abuse .. Some people are ignorant because they havent experienced what they post about... Thank-you, yes me I am 11 yrs clear of it with 2 beautiful children that I have managed to raise without him, they are respectful and loving. But christ I really had to reach the bottom. I'm proud of me and my babies x As you should be. " Thank-you knitter xx | |||
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"find out where the dom lives and offer them out,,if you want this woman she must be worth a fight, I have done something similar in the past for a friend of mine but I ended up being the bad guy for beating a guy who was beating his girlfriend when she denied he was doing this.Maybe he will find out your fucking his lass and turn up and beat the fuck out of you,if she is stupid enough to put up with his shit then she is too stupid to help...just basic honesty That's bullshit! I spent 7 years in an abusive relationship, doesn't mean I was stupid, I had just been ground down enough not to see my worth or have the strength to leave. What an appalling thing to say. I hope you are on your feet and strong now ... The post was obviously from someone with no understanding of abuse .. Some people are ignorant because they havent experienced what they post about... Thank-you, yes me I am 11 yrs clear of it with 2 beautiful children that I have managed to raise without him, they are respectful and loving. But christ I really had to reach the bottom. I'm proud of me and my babies x As you should be. Thank-you knitter xx" You are very welcome whilst I work with people daily I am always amazed and the strength of character especially those who will give up their whole world for their children. You should as you are be exceptionally proud of what you have achieved and your beautiful children. | |||
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"Tried to inbox you but I'm the wrong sex lol. Hopefully OP's friend will get there too x" Will message you that should open the gateway lol | |||
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"Tried to inbox you but I'm the wrong sex lol. Hopefully OP's friend will get there too x Will message you that should open the gateway lol" the 2 of ye should indeed get along as ye are both sweethearts guys | |||
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"Tried to inbox you but I'm the wrong sex lol. Hopefully OP's friend will get there too x Will message you that should open the gateway lol the 2 of ye should indeed get along as ye are both sweethearts guys " Ahh shucks thank you | |||
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