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"Sadly I think it might be locking the gate when the horse has bolted. I fear isis are already all over europe as Paris showed and all that will happen is inmocent syrians will be killed." Depends where and how the air strikes are targeted. I think last nights were on ISIS held oil refineries to diminish their revenue raising capabilities. I would hope that not to many innocent civilians were there unless ISIS use them as human shields of course. | |||
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"Yay! More humans murdering each other! " Do nothing - humans will continue to murder other humans Do something - humans murdering other humans It's a bit of a zero sum game isn't it? I'd rather the 'enemy' who wish to kill and maim others died than innocents if we have to make that terrible choice on which life is more valuable than another ... | |||
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"Yay! More humans murdering each other! Do nothing - humans will continue to murder other humans Do something - humans murdering other humans It's a bit of a zero sum game isn't it? I'd rather the 'enemy' who wish to kill and maim others died than innocents if we have to make that terrible choice on which life is more valuable than another ..." The whole thing is a bloody untangleable mess I don't really understand, but this stuff never ends well | |||
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" Depends where and how the air strikes are targeted. I think last nights were on ISIS held oil refineries to diminish their revenue raising capabilities. I would hope that not to many innocent civilians were there unless ISIS use them as human shields of course." Cheaper, easier and more effective to stop Turkey buying the oil and the banks facilitating that. Bombing is just Eton dick wagging, it will bring support to ISIS, it's exactly what the Paris shooting was intended to create. A no fly zone would protect civilians and cause ISIS to lose support. Those 397 MPs are as dim as it gets. | |||
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"Sadly I think it might be locking the gate when the horse has bolted. I fear isis are already all over europe as Paris showed and all that will happen is inmocent syrians will be killed. Depends where and how the air strikes are targeted. I think last nights were on ISIS held oil refineries to diminish their revenue raising capabilities. I would hope that not to many innocent civilians were there unless ISIS use them as human shields of course." They tend to have a lot of there strongholds in populated areas and next to schools so I don't doubt there will be some civilian casualties | |||
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"On the back of an earlier thread.... the air strikes on so called IS in Syria have started. Let's hope all our aircrew return safely after every mission and that they are successful in striking at the heart of an evil regime. Well done guys. " Yeah, because killing people whose argument entails blowing themselves up is going to be a deterrent. This is a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't situation. These people aren't afraid of death and there are thousands prepared to sacrifice themselves. I see nothing to celebrate. | |||
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"Yay! More humans murdering each other! Do nothing - humans will continue to murder other humans Do something - humans murdering other humans It's a bit of a zero sum game isn't it? I'd rather the 'enemy' who wish to kill and maim others died than innocents if we have to make that terrible choice on which life is more valuable than another ... The whole thing is a bloody untangleable mess I don't really understand, but this stuff never ends well " Yep...I feel the same | |||
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"On the back of an earlier thread.... the air strikes on so called IS in Syria have started. Let's hope all our aircrew return safely after every mission and that they are successful in striking at the heart of an evil regime. Well done guys. Yeah, because killing people whose argument entails blowing themselves up is going to be a deterrent. This is a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't situation. These people aren't afraid of death and there are thousands prepared to sacrifice themselves. I see nothing to celebrate. " Well just be glad to celebrate the fact that you live in a free society that allows you to express your opinion. There are many sufferers under IS that don't. | |||
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"And it is our right to condemn such actions and shout: Not in my name! " A right enjoyed in Syria? Pah! | |||
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"On the back of an earlier thread.... the air strikes on so called IS in Syria have started. Let's hope all our aircrew return safely after every mission and that they are successful in striking at the heart of an evil regime. Well done guys. Yeah, because killing people whose argument entails blowing themselves up is going to be a deterrent. This is a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't situation. These people aren't afraid of death and there are thousands prepared to sacrifice themselves. I see nothing to celebrate. Well just be glad to celebrate the fact that you live in a free society that allows you to express your opinion. There are many sufferers under IS that don't." Sorry, your point eludes me. | |||
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" Depends where and how the air strikes are targeted. I think last nights were on ISIS held oil refineries to diminish their revenue raising capabilities. I would hope that not to many innocent civilians were there unless ISIS use them as human shields of course. Cheaper, easier and more effective to stop Turkey buying the oil and the banks facilitating that. Bombing is just Eton dick wagging, it will bring support to ISIS, it's exactly what the Paris shooting was intended to create. A no fly zone would protect civilians and cause ISIS to lose support. Those 397 MPs are as dim as it gets." This Sad part is that the public here voted them in. | |||
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"And it is our right to condemn such actions and shout: Not in my name! A right enjoyed in Syria? Pah!" It is up to us to lead by example, not be led | |||
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"I fear it will only fuel the fire and its probably too late anyway the enemy is already within. I dont think we can stop them we should pour everything into UK border defense. Its just a God damn shitty mess and too depressing to think about " Yes I believe your Right on both accounts,on the first Account security forces here must know or suspect their here in cells and Comeing up to christmas shopping malls Full the busiest time of the year, january sales etc will bring out joe public it must be a proper headache for The Intelligence forces, and along with border control they know from experience how well terrorist cells can Lie low before comeing out, I know We have had added security come here And by god don,t we need them to get rid of the cells and fully monitor the Uk border its going to be a big strain for the authoritys but they know this is Paramount till we wipe this Evil/Madness from the earth. | |||
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"I fear it will only fuel the fire and its probably too late anyway the enemy is already within. I dont think we can stop them we should pour everything into UK border defense. Its just a God damn shitty mess and too depressing to think about Yes I believe your Right on both accounts,on the first Account security forces here must know or suspect their here in cells and Comeing up to christmas shopping malls Full the busiest time of the year, january sales etc will bring out joe public it must be a proper headache for The Intelligence forces, and along with border control they know from experience how well terrorist cells can Lie low before comeing out, I know We have had added security come here And by god don,t we need them to get rid of the cells and fully monitor the Uk border its going to be a big strain for the authoritys but they know this is Paramount till we wipe this Evil/Madness from the earth. " Hmm, an interesting sentence | |||
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"On the back of an earlier thread.... the air strikes on so called IS in Syria have started. Let's hope all our aircrew return safely after every mission and that they are successful in striking at the heart of an evil regime. Well done guys. " My first thoughts are with the innocent civilians to be honest, - as if they haven't had enough shit thrown at them already! | |||
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"And it is our right to condemn such actions and shout: Not in my name! A right enjoyed in Syria? Pah! It is up to us to lead by example, not be led " i think we are being led. Lots of other countries are already bombing, cameron just wants to bomb to be in fashion with other countries.. Plus a share in the spoils if and when they carve up syria | |||
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"And it is our right to condemn such actions and shout: Not in my name! A right enjoyed in Syria? Pah! It is up to us to lead by example, not be led i think we are being led. Lots of other countries are already bombing, cameron just wants to bomb to be in fashion with other countries.. Plus a share in the spoils if and when they carve up syria" No we are not being led, the UK is right to stand up for ourselves and others, history has proved this, not always, but it has. The parliament had a tough job yesterday to decide upon this and I think its right that they have evwn if lives have now been turned upside down over it. Please feel free anyone to disagree with me | |||
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