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"Simply should we bomb Syria or not ? With keeping in mind the breaking news in the states about the mass shootings ... I Vote yes !" and if it turns out that the murderers in California are from that state, do we bomb there..? | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. " You don't believe the missiles will be acurate enough really??? Google brimstone you might find its as dammed as u can get to acurate. | |||
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"Air strike followed by boots on the ground, otherwise it's pointless." Because the last time we did that turned out so well. | |||
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"Air strike followed by boots on the ground, otherwise it's pointless." How about a boot in the nads for every isis member captured? From each & every member of our forces risking their lives for us.  | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. You don't believe the missiles will be acurate enough really??? Google brimstone you might find its as dammed as u can get to acurate. " Incredible! A missile that can identify an IS person and kill him but not the innocent kids he's sitting with. Loads of innocent civilians will be killed and airstrikes alone won't work. They haven't in the past and I don't think they will this time. | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. You don't believe the missiles will be acurate enough really??? Google brimstone you might find its as dammed as u can get to acurate. Incredible! A missile that can identify an IS person and kill him but not the innocent kids he's sitting with. Loads of innocent civilians will be killed and airstrikes alone won't work. They haven't in the past and I don't think they will this time. " This...  | |||
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"Yes! We can't sit back - the UK is on high alert anyway so won't make a difference" in that case wouldn't the money spent on each airstrike mission be better spent on employing 10 consultant surgeons or 18 junior doctors or 18 firefighters or 18 nurses or 20 teachers or 20 paramedics etc? or better still 20 missions worth would give us enough cash to send Ca-moron to the moon ..... 40 missions worth would give us enough cash to send him to the moon AND fire 20 missiles at him when he lands there just a thought  | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. You don't believe the missiles will be acurate enough really??? Google brimstone you might find its as dammed as u can get to acurate. Incredible! A missile that can identify an IS person and kill him but not the innocent kids he's sitting with. Loads of innocent civilians will be killed and airstrikes alone won't work. They haven't in the past and I don't think they will this time. " You mean those innocent kids which while sat there are being radicalised???. A brimstone missile doesn't work like that it's so acurate it can pin point say a terrorist trying to flee on a motor bike. If said civilians are with those terrorists you got to ask yourself why?. If the government have knowledge greater than ours on specific locations being used by Isis then hitting them with a missile will do no harm in my eyes. | |||
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"Because the latest shooting has been directly linked to Syria? Even the FBI don't know who is responsible yet." exactly... i wouldn't link the two at the moment if even the FBI don't seem to have a clue what has happened at the san bernedino shootings .... been watching the debate all day... i think cameron put forward a better case , although shakey, than corbyn manage to put up for the against..... actually i think the best speeches all day have come from hilary benn, the shadow foreign sec who is on the opposite side to corbyn and tim farron, the lib dem leader.... | |||
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"Tell you what though Hillary Benn can put a speech together that's for sure. Air strikes and a coalition of Arab nations to stomp these Facist wannabes into the ground. " Yep, that was a corker of a speech. Watch and learn, other MPs. That's what they're paid to deliver. | |||
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"Simply should we bomb Syria or not ? With keeping in mind the breaking news in the states about the mass shootings ... I Vote yes !" Which of the half dozen sides would you like to bomb? | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. You don't believe the missiles will be acurate enough really??? Google brimstone you might find its as dammed as u can get to acurate. Incredible! A missile that can identify an IS person and kill him but not the innocent kids he's sitting with. Loads of innocent civilians will be killed and airstrikes alone won't work. They haven't in the past and I don't think they will this time. You mean those innocent kids which while sat there are being radicalised???. A brimstone missile doesn't work like that it's so acurate it can pin point say a terrorist trying to flee on a motor bike. If said civilians are with those terrorists you got to ask yourself why?. If the government have knowledge greater than ours on specific locations being used by Isis then hitting them with a missile will do no harm in my eyes. " Wait and see.....why do you think air strikes alone will work this time when they haven't in past wars? | |||
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"Well the votes in the bombs will drop . It doesn't matter if your for or against lets just take a moment to think about our airman and hope they are safe in the busy skies over Syria " | |||
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"Well the votes in the bombs will drop . It doesn't matter if your for or against lets just take a moment to think about our airman and hope they are safe in the busy skies over Syria " We'll be using actual planes? | |||
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"Well the votes in the bombs will drop . It doesn't matter if your for or against lets just take a moment to think about our airman and hope they are safe in the busy skies over Syria " It won't stop the terrorists. Let's see how it all pans out. Let's hope the pilots don't have to bail out and get captured. I'm going to bed. | |||
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"Simply should we bomb Syria or not ? With keeping in mind the breaking news in the states about the mass shootings ... I Vote yes ! Why yes? Do you believe bombing Syria will stop them? As has already been shown ISIS have members all over the world. Do we next drop bombs on Paris as we know they've been there." I believe that those in power want to make the rubble bounce. | |||
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"Air strike followed by boots on the ground, otherwise it's pointless. Because the last time we did that turned out so well. " It doesn't have to be western boots. | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. You don't believe the missiles will be acurate enough really??? Google brimstone you might find its as dammed as u can get to acurate. Incredible! A missile that can identify an IS person and kill him but not the innocent kids he's sitting with. Loads of innocent civilians will be killed and airstrikes alone won't work. They haven't in the past and I don't think they will this time. You mean those innocent kids which while sat there are being radicalised???. A brimstone missile doesn't work like that it's so acurate it can pin point say a terrorist trying to flee on a motor bike. If said civilians are with those terrorists you got to ask yourself why?. If the government have knowledge greater than ours on specific locations being used by Isis then hitting them with a missile will do no harm in my eyes. Wait and see.....why do you think air strikes alone will work this time when they haven't in past wars? " I think the government have more info than we all know or are fed from media sources. If we don't take action in some way then what? They won't give up! What happens if someone you know is killed in a incident like Paris?. I have no doubt the next step will see ground troops rock in yet at the moment I don't think the government want this, however until that desissions is made air strikes are the best option. | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. You don't believe the missiles will be acurate enough really??? Google brimstone you might find its as dammed as u can get to acurate. Incredible! A missile that can identify an IS person and kill him but not the innocent kids he's sitting with. Loads of innocent civilians will be killed and airstrikes alone won't work. They haven't in the past and I don't think they will this time. You mean those innocent kids which while sat there are being radicalised???. A brimstone missile doesn't work like that it's so acurate it can pin point say a terrorist trying to flee on a motor bike. If said civilians are with those terrorists you got to ask yourself why?. If the government have knowledge greater than ours on specific locations being used by Isis then hitting them with a missile will do no harm in my eyes. Wait and see.....why do you think air strikes alone will work this time when they haven't in past wars? I think the government have more info than we all know or are fed from media sources. If we don't take action in some way then what? They won't give up! What happens if someone you know is killed in a incident like Paris?. I have no doubt the next step will see ground troops rock in yet at the moment I don't think the government want this, however until that desissions is made air strikes are the best option. " The Paris bombers were all French (and one Belgian, I think) nationals. How will bombing Syria help? | |||
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"Yes! We can't sit back - the UK is on high alert anyway so won't make a difference in that case wouldn't the money spent on each airstrike mission be better spent on employing 10 consultant surgeons or 18 junior doctors or 18 firefighters or 18 nurses or 20 teachers or 20 paramedics etc? or better still 20 missions worth would give us enough cash to send Ca-moron to the moon ..... 40 missions worth would give us enough cash to send him to the moon AND fire 20 missiles at him when he lands there just a thought "What about the poor fucker already up there on the john lewis advert you callous person  | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead " None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. " Yes they were, some were confirmed at Syrians | |||
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"Simply should we bomb Syria or not ? With keeping in mind the breaking news in the states about the mass shootings ... I Vote yes !" so if these mass shootings are linked to isis, it would logically follow that the USA bombing campaign has been completely futile to be fair. | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. You don't believe the missiles will be acurate enough really??? Google brimstone you might find its as dammed as u can get to acurate. Incredible! A missile that can identify an IS person and kill him but not the innocent kids he's sitting with. Loads of innocent civilians will be killed and airstrikes alone won't work. They haven't in the past and I don't think they will this time. You mean those innocent kids which while sat there are being radicalised???. A brimstone missile doesn't work like that it's so acurate it can pin point say a terrorist trying to flee on a motor bike. If said civilians are with those terrorists you got to ask yourself why?. If the government have knowledge greater than ours on specific locations being used by Isis then hitting them with a missile will do no harm in my eyes. Wait and see.....why do you think air strikes alone will work this time when they haven't in past wars? I think the government have more info than we all know or are fed from media sources. If we don't take action in some way then what? They won't give up! What happens if someone you know is killed in a incident like Paris?. I have no doubt the next step will see ground troops rock in yet at the moment I don't think the government want this, however until that desissions is made air strikes are the best option. The Paris bombers were all French (and one Belgian, I think) nationals. How will bombing Syria help? " Are you sure about that??? Nothing anyone can do now the government have given the go ahead. First missile will be down within a hour I bet. | |||
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"I think the government have more info than we all know or are fed from media sources. " that was the line that the coalition leaders spun us before invading iraq ..... you still falling for it? | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. " That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else | |||
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"Clem its pointless.. Humanless all for control by knights of malta. New World Order.. One world government. " But the western and eastern meddling in Syria has been the cause of one of the biggest steps back in the moment towards a larger multination government. | |||
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" If we don't take action in some way then what? They won't give up! What happens if someone you know is killed in a incident like Paris?. " so people tend to forget very quickly..... the majority of the 40 odd that died in tunisa were brits...... and yet..... people still wanted to sit down and do nothing.... | |||
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"I think the government have more info than we all know or are fed from media sources. that was the line that the coalition leaders spun us before invading iraq ..... you still falling for it?" Falling for what? My info comes from friends serving oh and wait one is a pilot. I don't really watch the news as prefer to get my facts from my mates. | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else " Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. | |||
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"I vote Yes And I agree there will be civilian casualties but there are civillian casualties now why we're sitting back doing nothing watching Isis take over so if we can make a difference I believe we should. But if in the future this involves ground troops I'll be seriously pissed of because we didn't finish the job in Afghanistan so we most defiantly shouldn't deploy ground troops they don't like how we are on the wester side of the map they say we influence there culture into our way . Rant over "I don't think it will end with ground troops this time round, I don't think the support would be there for that. And you are correct. Unfortunately civilian casualties is a fact of life, but it is already happening now in Syria. | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. "
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" My info comes from friends serving oh and wait one is a pilot. I don't really watch the news as prefer to get my facts from my mates. " i'm not saying what you've said is bullshit and despite that being against military protocol and an extreme security risk, pilots aren't entrusted with military intelligence they just act out orders. the general way of things is that you must be a member of the privy council to be party to such knowledge. | |||
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" My info comes from friends serving oh and wait one is a pilot. I don't really watch the news as prefer to get my facts from my mates. i'm not saying what you've said is bullshit and despite that being against military protocol and an extreme security risk, pilots aren't entrusted with military intelligence they just act out orders. the general way of things is that you must be a member of the privy council to be party to such knowledge. " Yeah, but a bloke down the pub told me... | |||
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"I vote Yes And I agree there will be civilian casualties but there are civillian casualties now why we're sitting back doing nothing watching Isis take over so if we can make a difference I believe we should. But if in the future this involves ground troops I'll be seriously pissed of because we didn't finish the job in Afghanistan so we most defiantly shouldn't deploy ground troops they don't like how we are on the wester side of the map they say we influence there culture into our way . Rant over
I don't think it will end with ground troops this time round, I don't think the support would be there for that. And you are correct. Unfortunately civilian casualties is a fact of life, but it is already happening now in Syria. "Am glad we agree on something missy  | |||
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"I vote Yes And I agree there will be civilian casualties but there are civillian casualties now why we're sitting back doing nothing watching Isis take over so if we can make a difference I believe we should. But if in the future this involves ground troops I'll be seriously pissed of because we didn't finish the job in Afghanistan so we most defiantly shouldn't deploy ground troops they don't like how we are on the wester side of the map they say we influence there culture into our way . Rant over
I don't think it will end with ground troops this time round, I don't think the support would be there for that. And you are correct. Unfortunately civilian casualties is a fact of life, but it is already happening now in Syria.
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" My info comes from friends serving oh and wait one is a pilot. I don't really watch the news as prefer to get my facts from my mates. i'm not saying what you've said is bullshit and despite that being against military protocol and an extreme security risk, pilots aren't entrusted with military intelligence they just act out orders. the general way of things is that you must be a member of the privy council to be party to such knowledge. " You don't think pilots are entrusted ha ha you got that wrong they know far more than any of us and are highly trusted to fly a lethal weapon worth 40 million. Rather than make personal digs at me because you don't like my opinion perhaps stick to the question asked. YES bomb the hell out of Syria!! | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. " So what would you do ?? | |||
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"I vote Yes And I agree there will be civilian casualties but there are civillian casualties now why we're sitting back doing nothing watching Isis take over so if we can make a difference I believe we should. But if in the future this involves ground troops I'll be seriously pissed of because we didn't finish the job in Afghanistan so we most defiantly shouldn't deploy ground troops they don't like how we are on the wester side of the map they say we influence there culture into our way . Rant over
I don't think it will end with ground troops this time round, I don't think the support would be there for that. And you are correct. Unfortunately civilian casualties is a fact of life, but it is already happening now in Syria.
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" My info comes from friends serving oh and wait one is a pilot. I don't really watch the news as prefer to get my facts from my mates. i'm not saying what you've said is bullshit and despite that being against military protocol and an extreme security risk, pilots aren't entrusted with military intelligence they just act out orders. the general way of things is that you must be a member of the privy council to be party to such knowledge. You don't think pilots are entrusted ha ha you got that wrong they know far more than any of us and are highly trusted to fly a lethal weapon worth 40 million. Rather than make personal digs at me because you don't like my opinion perhaps stick to the question asked. YES bomb the hell out of Syria!!" Syria has already bombed itself to smithereens - how will making the rubble bounce help? | |||
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"I vote Yes And I agree there will be civilian casualties but there are civillian casualties now why we're sitting back doing nothing watching Isis take over so if we can make a difference I believe we should. But if in the future this involves ground troops I'll be seriously pissed of because we didn't finish the job in Afghanistan so we most defiantly shouldn't deploy ground troops they don't like how we are on the wester side of the map they say we influence there culture into our way . Rant over
I don't think it will end with ground troops this time round, I don't think the support would be there for that. And you are correct. Unfortunately civilian casualties is a fact of life, but it is already happening now in Syria.
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" You don't think pilots are entrusted ha ha you got that wrong they know far more than any of us and are highly trusted to fly a lethal weapon worth 40 million." no one who is at the highest risk of capture will know more than they need to know in order to carry out their mission.. thats bog standard S.O.P.'s throughout the military.. | |||
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" My info comes from friends serving oh and wait one is a pilot. I don't really watch the news as prefer to get my facts from my mates. i'm not saying what you've said is bullshit and despite that being against military protocol and an extreme security risk, pilots aren't entrusted with military intelligence they just act out orders. the general way of things is that you must be a member of the privy council to be party to such knowledge. You don't think pilots are entrusted ha ha you got that wrong they know far more than any of us and are highly trusted to fly a lethal weapon worth 40 million. Rather than make personal digs at me because you don't like my opinion perhaps stick to the question asked. YES bomb the hell out of Syria!! Syria has already bombed itself to smithereens - how will making the rubble bounce help?" If 1 single air strike kills 1 terrorist then job done in my opinion. | |||
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"I'm not saying whether air strikes is the right move or not. However, as I see it, we are doing exactly what we did in Iraq. They hurt us, so we want our revenge. It doesn't matter if it's the right course of action, the best course of action, or even the smartest course of action. We want our pound of flesh, so we are gunna bomb them. It's awful. We should learn from our past mistakes and think before we act. The military isn't the only tool we have, it's just the most satisfying. Who are we fighting for? Who are we fighting against? What happens if we destroy Isis? Who is in charge then? Do we support Assad, or one of the countless rebel factions (some which are even similar to Isis)? What is the game plan? But that's right, we don't need one. We'll just bomb "them" and deal with the consequences later.
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" My info comes from friends serving oh and wait one is a pilot. I don't really watch the news as prefer to get my facts from my mates. i'm not saying what you've said is bullshit and despite that being against military protocol and an extreme security risk, pilots aren't entrusted with military intelligence they just act out orders. the general way of things is that you must be a member of the privy council to be party to such knowledge. You don't think pilots are entrusted ha ha you got that wrong they know far more than any of us and are highly trusted to fly a lethal weapon worth 40 million. Rather than make personal digs at me because you don't like my opinion perhaps stick to the question asked. YES bomb the hell out of Syria!!" i'm not calling you a liar, you just seem to be exagerating what you may possibly know about what the situation is, unless of course you are high up in government or MI6, which if either is the case, i'm not sure you should be divulging such information on a swingers site and it's that fact that makes you comments both highly suspect and ammusing. | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. So what would you do ??" Perhaps we could stop pretending that we are the colonial power we once were and learn our lesson and leave the middle east alone. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and thwart attacks here... Because lets face it, our risk of being bombed at home is now increased. Also, perhaps we shouldn't have sold ISIS the fucking weapons in the first place. | |||
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" My info comes from friends serving oh and wait one is a pilot. I don't really watch the news as prefer to get my facts from my mates. i'm not saying what you've said is bullshit and despite that being against military protocol and an extreme security risk, pilots aren't entrusted with military intelligence they just act out orders. the general way of things is that you must be a member of the privy council to be party to such knowledge. You don't think pilots are entrusted ha ha you got that wrong they know far more than any of us and are highly trusted to fly a lethal weapon worth 40 million. Rather than make personal digs at me because you don't like my opinion perhaps stick to the question asked. YES bomb the hell out of Syria!! Syria has already bombed itself to smithereens - how will making the rubble bounce help? If 1 single air strike kills 1 terrorist then job done in my opinion. " And never mind the dead children, eh? | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. So what would you do ?? Perhaps we could stop pretending that we are the colonial power we once were and learn our lesson and leave the middle east alone. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and thwart attacks here... Because lets face it, our risk of being bombed at home is now increased. Also, perhaps we shouldn't have sold ISIS the fucking weapons in the first place. " When did we sell them weapons? They got their stocks from seizures from the Iraqi Government and Saudi didn't they? | |||
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"I'm not saying whether air strikes is the right move or not. However, as I see it, we are doing exactly what we did in Iraq. They hurt us, so we want our revenge. It doesn't matter if it's the right course of action, the best course of action, or even the smartest course of action. We want our pound of flesh, so we are gunna bomb them. It's awful. We should learn from our past mistakes and think before we act. The military isn't the only tool we have, it's just the most satisfying. Who are we fighting for? Who are we fighting against? What happens if we destroy Isis? Who is in charge then? Do we support Assad, or one of the countless rebel factions (some which are even similar to Isis)? What is the game plan? But that's right, we don't need one. We'll just bomb "them" and deal with the consequences later.
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" My info comes from friends serving oh and wait one is a pilot. I don't really watch the news as prefer to get my facts from my mates. i'm not saying what you've said is bullshit and despite that being against military protocol and an extreme security risk, pilots aren't entrusted with military intelligence they just act out orders. the general way of things is that you must be a member of the privy council to be party to such knowledge. You don't think pilots are entrusted ha ha you got that wrong they know far more than any of us and are highly trusted to fly a lethal weapon worth 40 million. Rather than make personal digs at me because you don't like my opinion perhaps stick to the question asked. YES bomb the hell out of Syria!! i'm not calling you a liar, you just seem to be exagerating what you may possibly know about what the situation is, unless of course you are high up in government or MI6, which if either is the case, i'm not sure you should be divulging such information on a swingers site and it's that fact that makes you comments both highly suspect and ammusing. " What info have I divulged? My friends are forces big deal plenty of forces are on here swinging. I'm saying nothing that someone with half a brain already knows if they seek out the information them selfs. I'm glad you find me so amusing im quite a funny person of here too though again But I don't understand why your trying to belittle me? It's my opinion which may differ from yours but that's life isn't it?. | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. So what would you do ?? Perhaps we could stop pretending that we are the colonial power we once were and learn our lesson and leave the middle east alone. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and thwart attacks here... Because lets face it, our risk of being bombed at home is now increased. Also, perhaps we shouldn't have sold ISIS the fucking weapons in the first place. When did we sell them weapons? They got their stocks from seizures from the Iraqi Government and Saudi didn't they? " Yeah...like the weapons they recovered from the Iraqi army lasted this long!! Open your eyes...the americans sell weapons to the saudis who in turn pass them on to the idiots in Daesh. The same thing happened during thhe soviet invasion of afghanistan in the 80's!! | |||
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" My info comes from friends serving oh and wait one is a pilot. I don't really watch the news as prefer to get my facts from my mates. i'm not saying what you've said is bullshit and despite that being against military protocol and an extreme security risk, pilots aren't entrusted with military intelligence they just act out orders. the general way of things is that you must be a member of the privy council to be party to such knowledge. You don't think pilots are entrusted ha ha you got that wrong they know far more than any of us and are highly trusted to fly a lethal weapon worth 40 million. Rather than make personal digs at me because you don't like my opinion perhaps stick to the question asked. YES bomb the hell out of Syria!! i'm not calling you a liar, you just seem to be exagerating what you may possibly know about what the situation is, unless of course you are high up in government or MI6, which if either is the case, i'm not sure you should be divulging such information on a swingers site and it's that fact that makes you comments both highly suspect and ammusing. What info have I divulged? My friends are forces big deal plenty of forces are on here swinging. I'm saying nothing that someone with half a brain already knows if they seek out the information them selfs. I'm glad you find me so amusing im quite a funny person of here too though again But I don't understand why your trying to belittle me? It's my opinion which may differ from yours but that's life isn't it?. " you're ust opening your mouth to change feet now | |||
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"They have probably already got suicide bombers over here waiting for that first bomb to drop on Syria then they will hit London and other major city's cos they won't stop . don't mater how may bombs Britain drops they have there people all over Yeah lot of people ain't gonna like this but iv opinion same as everyone else so that's y I say no to it" If the suicide bombers are poised and ready, they ain't waiting for airstrikes to do it. We could withdraw from anything to do with Iraq or Syria or anywhere in the middle east and they would still want to destroy us. | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. " Missiles fired from Tornadoes can hit a target a metre wide travelling at 70 mph, so accuracy is not an issue, hell, they can even pick what window to post a cruise missile through, which is massive in comparison to a Brimstone missile ffs! The Syrian people will be happy to see us bomb the shit out of ISIL, we just need to get the buggers to fight for their own country against Assad now and we'll be sorted! | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. So what would you do ?? Perhaps we could stop pretending that we are the colonial power we once were and learn our lesson and leave the middle east alone. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and thwart attacks here... Because lets face it, our risk of being bombed at home is now increased. Also, perhaps we shouldn't have sold ISIS the fucking weapons in the first place. When did we sell them weapons? They got their stocks from seizures from the Iraqi Government and Saudi didn't they? " They might have got them there too, but don't you remember when they were our pals fighting Assad? We armed them then. It's highly possible we armed both the Iraqi govt (not weapons of mass destruction though, ovbiously - that would have been a step too far...) and the Saudis too.... | |||
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"They have probably already got suicide bombers over here waiting for that first bomb to drop on Syria then they will hit London and other major city's cos they won't stop . don't mater how may bombs Britain drops they have there people all over Yeah lot of people ain't gonna like this but iv opinion same as everyone else so that's y I say no to it If the suicide bombers are poised and ready, they ain't waiting for airstrikes to do it. We could withdraw from anything to do with Iraq or Syria or anywhere in the middle east and they would still want to destroy us. "
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"I'm not saying whether air strikes is the right move or not. However, as I see it, we are doing exactly what we did in Iraq. They hurt us, so we want our revenge. It doesn't matter if it's the right course of action, the best course of action, or even the smartest course of action. We want our pound of flesh, so we are gunna bomb them. It's awful. We should learn from our past mistakes and think before we act. The military isn't the only tool we have, it's just the most satisfying. Who are we fighting for? Who are we fighting against? What happens if we destroy Isis? Who is in charge then? Do we support Assad, or one of the countless rebel factions (some which are even similar to Isis)? What is the game plan? But that's right, we don't need one. We'll just bomb "them" and deal with the consequences later.
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i see what you're saying but as far as i remember it was a terrorist organisation funded by a saudi arabian who hurt the USA. the result was that military intelligence (i use the term very loosely) managed to convice folks that iraq should be the scapegoat because they allegedly had weapons of mass destruction and bingo, there was a war as a result."There was no real rational to it. Smoke and mirrors. The reason why people were so easily convinced of the ridiculous was because they were angry about 9/11. Now we have the attacks in Paris, and people are angry. So we are going to bomb. Like I said, I don't know whether military action is ultimately the right course here. But I also don't think that the situation has been thought through well enough to even make that judgement. -Courtney | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. Missiles fired from Tornadoes can hit a target a metre wide travelling at 70 mph, so accuracy is not an issue, hell, they can even pick what window to post a cruise missile through, which is massive in comparison to a Brimstone missile ffs! The Syrian people will be happy to see us bomb the shit out of ISIL, we just need to get the buggers to fight for their own country against Assad now and we'll be sorted!" Oh, the irony in that last sentence..... | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. So what would you do ?? Perhaps we could stop pretending that we are the colonial power we once were and learn our lesson and leave the middle east alone. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and thwart attacks here... Because lets face it, our risk of being bombed at home is now increased. Also, perhaps we shouldn't have sold ISIS the fucking weapons in the first place. When did we sell them weapons? They got their stocks from seizures from the Iraqi Government and Saudi didn't they? They might have got them there too, but don't you remember when they were our pals fighting Assad? We armed them then. It's highly possible we armed both the Iraqi govt (not weapons of mass destruction though, ovbiously - that would have been a step too far...) and the Saudis too...." britain and the USA armed iraq when they were at war with iran in the 80's .... the same goes for the taliban when russia invaded afgahn in the 80's ... some documents regarding this were released under the 30 year rule | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. So what would you do ?? Perhaps we could stop pretending that we are the colonial power we once were and learn our lesson and leave the middle east alone. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and thwart attacks here... Because lets face it, our risk of being bombed at home is now increased. Also, perhaps we shouldn't have sold ISIS the fucking weapons in the first place. When did we sell them weapons? They got their stocks from seizures from the Iraqi Government and Saudi didn't they? They might have got them there too, but don't you remember when they were our pals fighting Assad? We armed them then. It's highly possible we armed both the Iraqi govt (not weapons of mass destruction though, ovbiously - that would have been a step too far...) and the Saudis too.... britain and the USA armed iraq when they were at war with iran in the 80's .... the same goes for the taliban when russia invaded afgahn in the 80's ... some documents regarding this were released under the 30 year rule" Yep. We are quite good at arming ABSOLUTELY FUCKING ANYONE. | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. You don't believe the missiles will be acurate enough really??? Google brimstone you might find its as dammed as u can get to acurate. Incredible! A missile that can identify an IS person and kill him but not the innocent kids he's sitting with. Loads of innocent civilians will be killed and airstrikes alone won't work. They haven't in the past and I don't think they will this time. You mean those innocent kids which while sat there are being radicalised???. A brimstone missile doesn't work like that it's so acurate it can pin point say a terrorist trying to flee on a motor bike. If said civilians are with those terrorists you got to ask yourself why?. If the government have knowledge greater than ours on specific locations being used by Isis then hitting them with a missile will do no harm in my eyes. Wait and see.....why do you think air strikes alone will work this time when they haven't in past wars? " Possibly not. But IS is actually quite weak. It just portrays itself as strong. It also has money from oil fields and from what it stole in Iraq...this is not fighting a whole country, just a relatively small force. Precision air strikes against high value targets will significantly weaken them | |||
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"I vote no. I don't believe that missiles will be accurate enough to destroy groups of IS and I don't believe it won't make more Syrians more determined to be radical in their beliefs when they see Christians attacking them in their own country. There doesn't appear to be an end game planned and we ought to have learnt from previous wars. Missiles fired from Tornadoes can hit a target a metre wide travelling at 70 mph, so accuracy is not an issue, hell, they can even pick what window to post a cruise missile through, which is massive in comparison to a Brimstone missile ffs! The Syrian people will be happy to see us bomb the shit out of ISIL, we just need to get the buggers to fight for their own country against Assad now and we'll be sorted! Oh, the irony in that last sentence....." | |||
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"I'm not saying whether air strikes is the right move or not. However, as I see it, we are doing exactly what we did in Iraq. They hurt us, so we want our revenge. It doesn't matter if it's the right course of action, the best course of action, or even the smartest course of action. We want our pound of flesh, so we are gunna bomb them. It's awful. We should learn from our past mistakes and think before we act. The military isn't the only tool we have, it's just the most satisfying. Who are we fighting for? Who are we fighting against? What happens if we destroy Isis? Who is in charge then? Do we support Assad, or one of the countless rebel factions (some which are even similar to Isis)? What is the game plan? But that's right, we don't need one. We'll just bomb "them" and deal with the consequences later.
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i see what you're saying but as far as i remember it was a terrorist organisation funded by a saudi arabian who hurt the USA. the result was that military intelligence (i use the term very loosely) managed to convice folks that iraq should be the scapegoat because they allegedly had weapons of mass destruction and bingo, there was a war as a result.
There was no real rational to it. Smoke and mirrors. The reason why people were so easily convinced of the ridiculous was because they were angry about 9/11.
Now we have the attacks in Paris, and people are angry. So we are going to bomb. Like I said, I don't know whether military action is ultimately the right course here. But I also don't think that the situation has been thought through well enough to even make that judgement.
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. So what would you do ?? Perhaps we could stop pretending that we are the colonial power we once were and learn our lesson and leave the middle east alone. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and thwart attacks here... Because lets face it, our risk of being bombed at home is now increased. Also, perhaps we shouldn't have sold ISIS the fucking weapons in the first place. When did we sell them weapons? They got their stocks from seizures from the Iraqi Government and Saudi didn't they? They might have got them there too, but don't you remember when they were our pals fighting Assad? We armed them then. It's highly possible we armed both the Iraqi govt (not weapons of mass destruction though, ovbiously - that would have been a step too far...) and the Saudis too.... britain and the USA armed iraq when they were at war with iran in the 80's .... the same goes for the taliban when russia invaded afgahn in the 80's ... some documents regarding this were released under the 30 year rule" I would have thought in 30 years with the conflict in that zone they would be expended by now. Just done a little research on the issue and it seems Turkey and Saudi may have some questions to answer regarding supply lines. But we know that's not going to be broached with the respective countries. | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. So what would you do ?? Perhaps we could stop pretending that we are the colonial power we once were and learn our lesson and leave the middle east alone. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and thwart attacks here... Because lets face it, our risk of being bombed at home is now increased. Also, perhaps we shouldn't have sold ISIS the fucking weapons in the first place. When did we sell them weapons? They got their stocks from seizures from the Iraqi Government and Saudi didn't they? They might have got them there too, but don't you remember when they were our pals fighting Assad? We armed them then. It's highly possible we armed both the Iraqi govt (not weapons of mass destruction though, ovbiously - that would have been a step too far...) and the Saudis too.... britain and the USA armed iraq when they were at war with iran in the 80's .... the same goes for the taliban when russia invaded afgahn in the 80's ... some documents regarding this were released under the 30 year rule" Cia still have not accounted for all the stinger missiles they gave to the mujihadeen to use on the Russians.. | |||
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"I'm not saying whether air strikes is the right move or not. However, as I see it, we are doing exactly what we did in Iraq. They hurt us, so we want our revenge. It doesn't matter if it's the right course of action, the best course of action, or even the smartest course of action. We want our pound of flesh, so we are gunna bomb them. It's awful. We should learn from our past mistakes and think before we act. The military isn't the only tool we have, it's just the most satisfying. Who are we fighting for? Who are we fighting against? What happens if we destroy Isis? Who is in charge then? Do we support Assad, or one of the countless rebel factions (some which are even similar to Isis)? What is the game plan? But that's right, we don't need one. We'll just bomb "them" and deal with the consequences later.
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i see what you're saying but as far as i remember it was a terrorist organisation funded by a saudi arabian who hurt the USA. the result was that military intelligence (i use the term very loosely) managed to convice folks that iraq should be the scapegoat because they allegedly had weapons of mass destruction and bingo, there was a war as a result.
There was no real rational to it. Smoke and mirrors. The reason why people were so easily convinced of the ridiculous was because they were angry about 9/11.
Now we have the attacks in Paris, and people are angry. So we are going to bomb. Like I said, I don't know whether military action is ultimately the right course here. But I also don't think that the situation has been thought through well enough to even make that judgement.
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i agree with you but it what i'm saying is it wasn't iraq that did the hurt, it was what became known as al quaida, iraq was just the scapegoat, and what happened there lead us to where things are now."Right. They were known as Al Qaida before the attacks though. It wasn't a new name. The group had been around for a long time. And yes, it wasn't Iraq that was to blame. A further example of acting out of anger instead of rationale. If people had actually thought it through instead of wanting vengeance, they would have seen the holes in the intelligence and the strategy. I suggest we take the time to think it through in this instance. But the die has been cast. And the US has committed more special forces to act on the ground, too.
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. So what would you do ?? Perhaps we could stop pretending that we are the colonial power we once were and learn our lesson and leave the middle east alone. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and thwart attacks here... Because lets face it, our risk of being bombed at home is now increased. Also, perhaps we shouldn't have sold ISIS the fucking weapons in the first place. When did we sell them weapons? They got their stocks from seizures from the Iraqi Government and Saudi didn't they? They might have got them there too, but don't you remember when they were our pals fighting Assad? We armed them then. It's highly possible we armed both the Iraqi govt (not weapons of mass destruction though, ovbiously - that would have been a step too far...) and the Saudis too...." "(not weapons of mass destruction though, ovbiously - that would have been a step too far.." Erm.... well, funny you should mention that, but, remember the 7 year war between Iraq and Iran, when they used Chemical weapons on each others armies? Guess where the buggers got the shit!! | |||
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"what is it a game over power, who's got what weapons? tit for tat! So bombing Syria does what exactly? Kill loads of innocent people, like what happened in Paris, apparently those who followed ISIS were to blame. So what does bombing Syria actually achieve, because if it's ISIS they're after then they may as well bomb the entire world, as it would appear those who are part of it are everywhere. Paris, Beirut, Kenya all placed that have apparently been victims due to ISIS lost loads of innocent lives. Now it is going to happen in Syria too, with the hope that some superior leader will be killed, guess they'll be no-one to take over if that happens! The Taliban are still here, they will never be gone and nor will ISIS. People in Syria will have the technology and will have access to this news, so I'd imagine they'll be prepared for what's about to happen. So as well as Syrian lives being lost over the next few days, English ones will be too. " I can't help but think of all the pilots & their families. I Wouldn't like to imagine the worry they must be facing, especially at this time of year. Praying that we don't lose any more. Far too many Soldiers & RAF have already lost their lives protecting us. It's definitely a scary time with no obvious outcome. | |||
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"If Paris had happened in London we would expect France to join us it's our duty it's the worlds duty to stop these mad men who hide behind a peaceful religion because they will never stop until the world is the way they want it or they are dead None of the Paris bombers were from Syria though were they? How will it help? You can't bomb an idea. That's where they were trained financed they did it in the name of Isis this is different there is NO DIALOGUE they will never come to the table they want you and me dead of converted to their distorted form of Islam nothing else Whats your point? I don't like ISIS, I just don't think bombing Syria will help in the slightest. So what would you do ?? Perhaps we could stop pretending that we are the colonial power we once were and learn our lesson and leave the middle east alone. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and thwart attacks here... Because lets face it, our risk of being bombed at home is now increased. Also, perhaps we shouldn't have sold ISIS the fucking weapons in the first place. When did we sell them weapons? They got their stocks from seizures from the Iraqi Government and Saudi didn't they? They might have got them there too, but don't you remember when they were our pals fighting Assad? We armed them then. It's highly possible we armed both the Iraqi govt (not weapons of mass destruction though, ovbiously - that would have been a step too far...) and the Saudis too.... britain and the USA armed iraq when they were at war with iran in the 80's .... the same goes for the taliban when russia invaded afgahn in the 80's ... some documents regarding this were released under the 30 year rule I would have thought in 30 years with the conflict in that zone they would be expended by now. Just done a little research on the issue and it seems Turkey and Saudi may have some questions to answer regarding supply lines. But we know that's not going to be broached with the respective countries. " doesn't really matter where they came from .... guns are bad m'kay | |||
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"what is it a game over power, who's got what weapons? tit for tat! So bombing Syria does what exactly? Kill loads of innocent people, like what happened in Paris, apparently those who followed ISIS were to blame. So what does bombing Syria actually achieve, because if it's ISIS they're after then they may as well bomb the entire world, as it would appear those who are part of it are everywhere. Paris, Beirut, Kenya all placed that have apparently been victims due to ISIS lost loads of innocent lives. Now it is going to happen in Syria too, with the hope that some superior leader will be killed, guess they'll be no-one to take over if that happens! The Taliban are still here, they will never be gone and nor will ISIS. People in Syria will have the technology and will have access to this news, so I'd imagine they'll be prepared for what's about to happen. So as well as Syrian lives being lost over the next few days, English ones will be too. I can't help but think of all the pilots & their families. I Wouldn't like to imagine the worry they must be facing, especially at this time of year. Praying that we don't lose any more. Far too many Soldiers & RAF have already lost their lives protecting us. It's definitely a scary time with no obvious outcome. " | |||
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"I sincerely hope that you "anti bombers" were just as vocal to your local MP's, and didnt just complain on a forum for swingers.." No need to worry. I was. And I can't even vote.
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"I sincerely hope that you "anti bombers" were just as vocal to your local MP's, and didnt just complain on a forum for swingers.. No need to worry. I was. And I can't even vote.
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"I sincerely hope that you "anti bombers" were just as vocal to your local MP's, and didnt just complain on a forum for swingers.. No need to worry. I was. And I can't even vote.
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Who's your local mp?"He's a labor MP. I'd rather not say who 
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"I sincerely hope that you "anti bombers" were just as vocal to your local MP's, and didnt just complain on a forum for swingers.. No need to worry. I was. And I can't even vote.
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"I sincerely hope that you "anti bombers" were just as vocal to your local MP's, and didnt just complain on a forum for swingers.." my MP stopped answering my letters and won't pick up my calls anymore ..... i can't think why. maybe i was being too demanding | |||
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Without googling.... "Mine is a lib dem mp all I need to say is that and it's easy to know where I live within Leicester  he supported anyway | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace... "if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place? | |||
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"Air strike followed by boots on the ground, otherwise it's pointless." That won't be you though, am I right? | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?"I wasn't complaining about the decision.. | |||
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"Air strike followed by boots on the ground, otherwise it's pointless. That won't be you though, am I right?" Hopefully a neighboring country. | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
I wasn't complaining about the decision.."so you you do give a fuck then .... jeez stop dithering and make your mind up clem. you're beginning to look like ca-moron trying to decide which side he wants to bomb in the syrian civil war | |||
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if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?"Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous... | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
I wasn't complaining about the decision..
so you you do give a fuck then .... jeez stop dithering and make your mind up clem. you're beginning to look like ca-moron trying to decide which side he wants to bomb in the syrian civil war
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if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous... "I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
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if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous... "you've just disproved summut i was lead to believe about leopards | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
-Courtney"Congrats | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
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Congrats "I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic? I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail! | |||
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if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
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I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic?
I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail!"I didn't see any hypocrisy? | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
you've just disproved summut i was lead to believe about leopards "I'd bet a pint, that he doesn't give a shit | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
you've just disproved summut i was lead to believe about leopards
I'd bet a pint, that he doesn't give a shit "After this much red wine.....nope | |||
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if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
you've just disproved summut i was lead to believe about leopards
I'd bet a pint, that he doesn't give a shit "well if he replys to that you owe me a pint .... of laphroig | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
-Courtney
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I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic?
I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail!
I didn't see any hypocrisy?"You said we should be telling people who matter, not people on a sex site. Then when someone questioned why you commented, then, you made a joke about not saying this is an open forum? Unless I missed something? It's an open forum, as you jokingly pointed out. Hence the discussion, regardless of what we told our MPs. Unless I'm missing out on humor somewhere, which happens to me sometimes with British people. In which case, no hypocrisy at all. -Courtney | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
-Courtney
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I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic?
I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail!
I didn't see any hypocrisy?
You said we should be telling people who matter, not people on a sex site. Then when someone questioned why you commented, then, you made a joke about not saying this is an open forum? Unless I missed something? It's an open forum, as you jokingly pointed out. Hence the discussion, regardless of what we told our MPs.
Unless I'm missing out on humor somewhere, which happens to me sometimes with British people. In which case, no hypocrisy at all.
-Courtney"And as i said, i wasn't complaining. | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
-Courtney
Congrats
I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic?
I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail!
I didn't see any hypocrisy?
You said we should be telling people who matter, not people on a sex site. Then when someone questioned why you commented, then, you made a joke about not saying this is an open forum? Unless I missed something? It's an open forum, as you jokingly pointed out. Hence the discussion, regardless of what we told our MPs.
Unless I'm missing out on humor somewhere, which happens to me sometimes with British people. In which case, no hypocrisy at all.
-Courtney
And as i said, i wasn't complaining."you've got this "not giving a fuck" down to a fine art hey? how do you stay so focused and disciplined? lol | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
-Courtney
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I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic?
I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail!
I didn't see any hypocrisy?
You said we should be telling people who matter, not people on a sex site. Then when someone questioned why you commented, then, you made a joke about not saying this is an open forum? Unless I missed something? It's an open forum, as you jokingly pointed out. Hence the discussion, regardless of what we told our MPs.
Unless I'm missing out on humor somewhere, which happens to me sometimes with British people. In which case, no hypocrisy at all.
-Courtney
And as i said, i wasn't complaining.
you've got this "not giving a fuck" down to a fine art hey? how do you stay so focused and disciplined? lol"I think tonight Matthew he is being red wine | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
-Courtney
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I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic?
I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail!
I didn't see any hypocrisy?
You said we should be telling people who matter, not people on a sex site. Then when someone questioned why you commented, then, you made a joke about not saying this is an open forum? Unless I missed something? It's an open forum, as you jokingly pointed out. Hence the discussion, regardless of what we told our MPs.
Unless I'm missing out on humor somewhere, which happens to me sometimes with British people. In which case, no hypocrisy at all.
-Courtney
And as i said, i wasn't complaining.
you've got this "not giving a fuck" down to a fine art hey? how do you stay so focused and disciplined? lol
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
-Courtney
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I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic?
I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail!
I didn't see any hypocrisy?
You said we should be telling people who matter, not people on a sex site. Then when someone questioned why you commented, then, you made a joke about not saying this is an open forum? Unless I missed something? It's an open forum, as you jokingly pointed out. Hence the discussion, regardless of what we told our MPs.
Unless I'm missing out on humor somewhere, which happens to me sometimes with British people. In which case, no hypocrisy at all.
-Courtney
And as i said, i wasn't complaining.
you've got this "not giving a fuck" down to a fine art hey? how do you stay so focused and disciplined? lol
I think tonight Matthew he is being red wine
is that cockney rhyming slang?
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
-Courtney
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I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic?
I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail!
I didn't see any hypocrisy?
You said we should be telling people who matter, not people on a sex site. Then when someone questioned why you commented, then, you made a joke about not saying this is an open forum? Unless I missed something? It's an open forum, as you jokingly pointed out. Hence the discussion, regardless of what we told our MPs.
Unless I'm missing out on humor somewhere, which happens to me sometimes with British people. In which case, no hypocrisy at all.
-Courtney
And as i said, i wasn't complaining.
you've got this "not giving a fuck" down to a fine art hey? how do you stay so focused and disciplined? lol
I think tonight Matthew he is being red wine
is that cockney rhyming slang?
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
-Courtney
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I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic?
I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail!
I didn't see any hypocrisy?
You said we should be telling people who matter, not people on a sex site. Then when someone questioned why you commented, then, you made a joke about not saying this is an open forum? Unless I missed something? It's an open forum, as you jokingly pointed out. Hence the discussion, regardless of what we told our MPs.
Unless I'm missing out on humor somewhere, which happens to me sometimes with British people. In which case, no hypocrisy at all.
-Courtney
And as i said, i wasn't complaining.
you've got this "not giving a fuck" down to a fine art hey? how do you stay so focused and disciplined? lol"I understand you're embarrassed that you've done nothing about trying to stop the bombing apart from complaining to the fab forum. But, tomorrows a new day, you'll find something else to complain to fab about xxx. Word to the wise though, if there's a fire, or you think you maybe experiencing a heart attack, 999 is your friend. Don't start a thread about it, it won't help.... | |||
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"Tell you what though Hillary Benn can put a speech together that's for sure. Air strikes and a coalition of Arab nations to stomp these Facist wannabes into the ground. " | |||
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"Never the less. People, if you're that angry about it, tell someone who gives a fuck, not someone who wants one. Peace...
if you don't give a fuck then why are you commenting on this thread in the first place?
Shit! Prefect time for me to wheel out the old favorite "it's an open forum, i can comment where i wish!" but i wouldn't dare be so vacuous...
I also did that to your point about not telling people who want a fuck...but I talked myself out of it
-Courtney
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I would curtsy but I take it you're being sarcastic?
I was pointing out the hypocrisy. But to no avail!
I didn't see any hypocrisy?
You said we should be telling people who matter, not people on a sex site. Then when someone questioned why you commented, then, you made a joke about not saying this is an open forum? Unless I missed something? It's an open forum, as you jokingly pointed out. Hence the discussion, regardless of what we told our MPs.
Unless I'm missing out on humor somewhere, which happens to me sometimes with British people. In which case, no hypocrisy at all.
-Courtney
And as i said, i wasn't complaining.
you've got this "not giving a fuck" down to a fine art hey? how do you stay so focused and disciplined? lol
I understand you're embarrassed that you've done nothing about trying to stop the bombing apart from complaining to the fab forum. But, tomorrows a new day, you'll find something else to complain to fab about xxx. Word to the wise though, if there's a fire, or you think you maybe experiencing a heart attack, 999 is your friend. Don't start a thread about it, it won't help.... "see now you are confusing me for someone who doesn't give a fuck | |||
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"Isis kill innocent Muslims and innocent people around the world i.e. Paris Japan etc . They not killed any Israelis that love to kill Palestinians. So now we are gonna go and kill some innocent people in Syria too. " I take it you didn't see the itv news at 10 o clock then? There was a report on it that showed the Syrian Kurds fighting against isis in Syria, and they said they would welcome UK airstrikes against isis. The Syrian kurds have been able to take back isis controlled ground by calling in coalition airstrikes when needed, a coordinated effort by local troops on the ground and coalition war planes in the sky to fight isis. If the RAF can help in that effort now to defeat isis it should be welcomed. | |||
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"I think technology of the accuracy of bombs has progressed since WW2 they are designed now to pinpoint a target within a small radius and fire within that target reducing civilian casualties, " True, new technology does reduce civilian casualties per mission. However, many academics who study new weapons technologies have argued that the ease with which they are used encourages them to be used more often. So, does it really save civilian lives in the end? Also, at least in the US, the definition of 'enemy combatant" has been so widened that it is difficult to get accurate figures on civilian deaths from those reported by the government. This is important not only because innocent people are dying, but also because every innocent person killed is a propaganda tool for the very people we are against. We need to think more about our actions. -Courtney | |||
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"I think technology of the accuracy of bombs has progressed since WW2 they are designed now to pinpoint a target within a small radius and fire within that target reducing civilian casualties, True, new technology does reduce civilian casualties per mission. However, many academics who study new weapons technologies have argued that the ease with which they are used encourages them to be used more often. So, does it really save civilian lives in the end? Also, at least in the US, the definition of 'enemy combatant" has been so widened that it is difficult to get accurate figures on civilian deaths from those reported by the government. This is important not only because innocent people are dying, but also because every innocent person killed is a propaganda tool for the very people we are against. We need to think more about our actions. -Courtney" Having been involved with both the US and UK military I agree and both have different views on how to do things, however people are dying in e erg corner you only have to look at 9/11,7/7 and now Paris. I don't agree wit innocent people dying in Syria because we are defending our country but do you think terrorist have the same view point as us? | |||
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"I think technology of the accuracy of bombs has progressed since WW2 they are designed now to pinpoint a target within a small radius and fire within that target reducing civilian casualties, True, new technology does reduce civilian casualties per mission. However, many academics who study new weapons technologies have argued that the ease with which they are used encourages them to be used more often. So, does it really save civilian lives in the end? Also, at least in the US, the definition of 'enemy combatant" has been so widened that it is difficult to get accurate figures on civilian deaths from those reported by the government. This is important not only because innocent people are dying, but also because every innocent person killed is a propaganda tool for the very people we are against. We need to think more about our actions. -Courtney Having been involved with both the US and UK military I agree and both have different views on how to do things, however people are dying in e erg corner you only have to look at 9/11,7/7 and now Paris. I don't agree wit innocent people dying in Syria because we are defending our country but do you think terrorist have the same view point as us?" No, I don't think terrorists have the same viewpoint as us. But that is no reason to sink to their level. In any case, as I've said, I'm not necessary against military action per se. I'm against military action without a viable and identifiable plan. We want to stop the attacks you mention. But so far our course of action has only increased their frequency. We need a better plan that will achieve our objectives. I don't think more bombing mere weeks after an attack is the most effective way forward. -Courtney | |||
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"Yes as we ALL a target for these morons. gloves of as this bunch do not fight by any Geneva convention spent sometime in middle east the only thing they do not have the same values as we do here life to them isn't precious despite the wailing fight fire with fire they rely on our timid response. As for the so called Syrian refugees how many are male aged between 18 40 fighting age would be terrorists perhaps WHY arent they fighting to restore their own country? when Hitler was at Dunkirk didn't see all our 18 year old catching ships to the states,Cowards are what they are just like terrorist who shoot unarmed people in the back at cafes etc They want the good old west to help them out slag us and the Usa off but still drink ,eat mcdonalds and drive western cars" How many Syrian refugees know how tohandle a weapon? How many British residents know how to handle a weapon? Who would teach these people? Who have the weapons? Who has the strongest side? | |||
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"Simply should we bomb Syria or not ? With keeping in mind the breaking news in the states about the mass shootings ... I Vote yes !" Who cares? Nice tits! | |||
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"Simply should we bomb Syria or not ? With keeping in mind the breaking news in the states about the mass shootings ... I Vote yes !" No, spend the money on border controls instead | |||
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