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I have a better idea - spend the dosh they are planning to spend on nukes and spend it on children in need instead, then every year, have a fun fundraising activity to buy nukes.  | |||
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"Whatever happens it will make the poor poorer, the rich richer and the most vulnerable even more vulnerable. Still, we're all in it together, eh?
I have a better idea - spend the dosh they are planning to spend on nukes and spend it on children in need instead, then every year, have a fun fundraising activity to buy nukes. "Can you imagine Terry Wogan running a telethon raising money for ICBM's  | |||
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"Whatever happens it will make the poor poorer, the rich richer and the most vulnerable even more vulnerable. Still, we're all in it together, eh?
I have a better idea - spend the dosh they are planning to spend on nukes and spend it on children in need instead, then every year, have a fun fundraising activity to buy nukes.
Can you imagine Terry Wogan running a telethon raising money for ICBM's "Which begs the question would you make a donation to an annual event where the proceeds raised were used to help reduce the national debt and therefore allow the chancellor to cut less deeply services which effect poorer members of our society... ?  | |||
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"Whatever happens it will make the poor poorer, the rich richer and the most vulnerable even more vulnerable. Still, we're all in it together, eh?
I have a better idea - spend the dosh they are planning to spend on nukes and spend it on children in need instead, then every year, have a fun fundraising activity to buy nukes.
Can you imagine Terry Wogan running a telethon raising money for ICBM's
Which begs the question would you make a donation to an annual event where the proceeds raised were used to help reduce the national debt and therefore allow the chancellor to cut less deeply services which effect poorer members of our society... ? "I'd rather he spent less on tanks and more on homeless people and starving kids. | |||
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"Whatever happens it will make the poor poorer, the rich richer and the most vulnerable even more vulnerable. Still, we're all in it together, eh?
I have a better idea - spend the dosh they are planning to spend on nukes and spend it on children in need instead, then every year, have a fun fundraising activity to buy nukes.
Can you imagine Terry Wogan running a telethon raising money for ICBM's
Which begs the question would you make a donation to an annual event where the proceeds raised were used to help reduce the national debt and therefore allow the chancellor to cut less deeply services which effect poorer members of our society... ? "Pay 45% for that already so no will stick with Children in Need. Doubt such a thing would scratch the surface. | |||
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"Whatever happens it will make the poor poorer, the rich richer and the most vulnerable even more vulnerable. Still, we're all in it together, eh?
I have a better idea - spend the dosh they are planning to spend on nukes and spend it on children in need instead, then every year, have a fun fundraising activity to buy nukes.
Can you imagine Terry Wogan running a telethon raising money for ICBM's
Which begs the question would you make a donation to an annual event where the proceeds raised were used to help reduce the national debt and therefore allow the chancellor to cut less deeply services which effect poorer members of our society... ?
Pay 45% for that already so no will stick with Children in Need. Doubt such a thing would scratch the surface.
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"My biggest concern is social care. The knock-on effects are acute. But I think this is a bit of a smoke screen, he's cutting hard now so he can spend the year before the election, even if the books aren't balanced, he'll reason away that they're balanced enough. " How would you reduce the national debt? | |||
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"Whatever happens it will make the poor poorer, the rich richer and the most vulnerable even more vulnerable. Still, we're all in it together, eh?
I have a better idea - spend the dosh they are planning to spend on nukes and spend it on children in need instead, then every year, have a fun fundraising activity to buy nukes.
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"My biggest concern is social care. The knock-on effects are acute. But I think this is a bit of a smoke screen, he's cutting hard now so he can spend the year before the election, even if the books aren't balanced, he'll reason away that they're balanced enough. How would you reduce the national debt? "I'd scrap Trident for a start. I'd stop using international aid as bribe money. I'd reduce pensioner benefits. Increase the cost of prescriptions. I'd have larger scale progressive property taxes. I'd let councils borrow money to build homes so that we could get more control over the housing benefit bill and have pre-Thatcher housing supply. Increase income taxes. Tax reform to eliminate as many loopholes as possible. Mandatory minimum prison sentences for employers found to be knowingly paying below the minimum wage. I'd actually totally change the structure of government. Just some of the things  | |||
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"Whatever happens it will make the poor poorer, the rich richer and the most vulnerable even more vulnerable. Still, we're all in it together, eh?
I have a better idea - spend the dosh they are planning to spend on nukes and spend it on children in need instead, then every year, have a fun fundraising activity to buy nukes.
Can you imagine Terry Wogan running a telethon raising money for ICBM's
I'll throw a tenner in when the chinese get to calais "They are already here. The Torys invited them in. | |||
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"My biggest concern is social care. The knock-on effects are acute. But I think this is a bit of a smoke screen, he's cutting hard now so he can spend the year before the election, even if the books aren't balanced, he'll reason away that they're balanced enough. How would you reduce the national debt?
I'd scrap Trident for a start.
I'd stop using international aid as bribe money.
I'd reduce pensioner benefits.
Increase the cost of prescriptions.
I'd have larger scale progressive property taxes.
I'd let councils borrow money to build homes so that we could get more control over the housing benefit bill and have pre-Thatcher housing supply.
Increase income taxes.
Tax reform to eliminate as many loopholes as possible.
Mandatory minimum prison sentences for employers found to be knowingly paying below the minimum wage.
I'd actually totally change the structure of government.
Just some of the things "I guess no-one could ever accuse you of avoiding tough choices.... | |||
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"My biggest concern is social care. The knock-on effects are acute. But I think this is a bit of a smoke screen, he's cutting hard now so he can spend the year before the election, even if the books aren't balanced, he'll reason away that they're balanced enough. How would you reduce the national debt?
I'd scrap Trident for a start.
I'd stop using international aid as bribe money.
I'd reduce pensioner benefits.
Increase the cost of prescriptions.
I'd have larger scale progressive property taxes.
I'd let councils borrow money to build homes so that we could get more control over the housing benefit bill and have pre-Thatcher housing supply.
Increase income taxes.
Tax reform to eliminate as many loopholes as possible.
Mandatory minimum prison sentences for employers found to be knowingly paying below the minimum wage.
I'd actually totally change the structure of government.
Just some of the things
I guess no-one could ever accuse you of avoiding tough choices....
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"My biggest concern is social care. The knock-on effects are acute. But I think this is a bit of a smoke screen, he's cutting hard now so he can spend the year before the election, even if the books aren't balanced, he'll reason away that they're balanced enough. How would you reduce the national debt?
I'd scrap Trident for a start.
I'd stop using international aid as bribe money.
I'd reduce pensioner benefits.
Increase the cost of prescriptions.
I'd have larger scale progressive property taxes.
I'd let councils borrow money to build homes so that we could get more control over the housing benefit bill and have pre-Thatcher housing supply.
Increase income taxes.
Tax reform to eliminate as many loopholes as possible.
Mandatory minimum prison sentences for employers found to be knowingly paying below the minimum wage.
I'd actually totally change the structure of government.
Just some of the things
I guess no-one could ever accuse you of avoiding tough choices....
It could be argued that these ideas are not as tough on the majority."So what measures would you implement as a more amenable method of reducing our deficit? | |||
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"Predictions? Is Austerity about to bite deeper to balance those books? " Austerity to bite much deeper so they can give the money to their mates! Balance the book on 12th of never... | |||
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"Someone's going to have to pay for Daves Jag it's been pranged outside 10 Downing Street. " Just seen the video
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"u turn on tax credit altogether...." Why? I thought eliminating the deficit was all-important? | |||
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"Grassroots sport will get fucked. Even more galling in light of the promises of Olympic legacy, and with incredible stuff like the govt giving £5m to fund Chinese (yes China, the world's 2nd richest economy) football coaches to promote the Premier League. It beggars belief! "I said a couple of weeks ago our Government has a new love affair with China. We broke up with America when they sold us their bad debts,now we need a new bed fellow. Osborne wants us all to work like the Chinese. | |||
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"u turn on tax credit altogether.... Why? I thought eliminating the deficit was all-important? " what they are saying is that because of improved figures from the OBR means they will get more money in... and pay a lot less in debt.... which means they now have the spare money to not do it.... plus with the national living wage.. it means those who would have been getting tax credits now, wouldn't be getting them in 5 years time anyway | |||
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"u turn on tax credit altogether.... Why? I thought eliminating the deficit was all-important? what they are saying is that because of improved figures from the OBR means they will get more money in... and pay a lot less in debt.... which means they now have the spare money to not do it.... plus with the national living wage.. it means those who would have been getting tax credits now, wouldn't be getting them in 5 years time anyway" The tantrums over the defeat in the Lords were all for nothing then. Everything can be explained away when he needs it to be. | |||
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" The tantrums over the defeat in the Lords were all for nothing then. Everything can be explained away when he needs it to be. "they are going to said they listened.. they have basically been bailed out by the OBR...... | |||
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" The tantrums over the defeat in the Lords were all for nothing then. Everything can be explained away when he needs it to be.
they are going to said they listened.. they have basically been bailed out by the OBR...... "The OBR only reports the figures so not necessarily true. The figures are better for a number of reasons and the U turn should be welcomed. | |||
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" The tantrums over the defeat in the Lords were all for nothing then. Everything can be explained away when he needs it to be.
they are going to said they listened.. they have basically been bailed out by the OBR......
The OBR only reports the figures so not necessarily true. The figures are better for a number of reasons and the U turn should be welcomed."it basically means the OBR have forcasted about 27bn extra than wasn't there in april...... so the 5bn they would have save there can be eaten up.... plus they have said 10bn will go to the debt... so there is extra money..... interesting that a lot of the day to day dept spending is going back into front line service and infrustructure projects... this is nowhere near as bad as it could have been.... its almost a mini giveaway.... | |||
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"Just seen newsflash from bbc app stating tax cuts to be abolished. Typical conservative mp steal from the poor give to the filthy rich. At least dick Turpin wore a mask when he robbed you!!!" you do know that is missing a word.... tax CREDIT cuts......... | |||
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" The tantrums over the defeat in the Lords were all for nothing then. Everything can be explained away when he needs it to be.
they are going to said they listened.. they have basically been bailed out by the OBR......
The OBR only reports the figures so not necessarily true. The figures are better for a number of reasons and the U turn should be welcomed.
it basically means the OBR have forcasted about 27bn extra than wasn't there in april...... so the 5bn they would have save there can be eaten up.... plus they have said 10bn will go to the debt... so there is extra money.....
interesting that a lot of the day to day dept spending is going back into front line service and infrustructure projects...
this is nowhere near as bad as it could have been.... its almost a mini giveaway...."The thing with economic forecasting is it is always wrong! I'm just glad in this case it is wrong in th right direction! | |||
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" The tantrums over the defeat in the Lords were all for nothing then. Everything can be explained away when he needs it to be.
they are going to said they listened.. they have basically been bailed out by the OBR......
The OBR only reports the figures so not necessarily true. The figures are better for a number of reasons and the U turn should be welcomed.
it basically means the OBR have forcasted about 27bn extra than wasn't there in april...... so the 5bn they would have save there can be eaten up.... plus they have said 10bn will go to the debt... so there is extra money.....
interesting that a lot of the day to day dept spending is going back into front line service and infrustructure projects...
this is nowhere near as bad as it could have been.... its almost a mini giveaway...."Interesting... and tactical... to put some emphasis on councils to raise money for social care. Means he won't shoulder any blame. | |||
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" The tantrums over the defeat in the Lords were all for nothing then. Everything can be explained away when he needs it to be.
they are going to said they listened.. they have basically been bailed out by the OBR...... "It seems that the cuts will apply to those on Universal Credit, affecting 140k families. There seems to be a clause that means people newly on UC will see the full cuts from 2018. | |||
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"And no police cuts!  "I'll believe that when I see the detail of the funding formula.... | |||
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"I predict obfuscation, lies, damn lies and statistics. A bit like every other spending review in my adult life. Oh and local government is fucked, although the full details of the settlement won't be out till mid December, just in time for Christmas. " I refer back to my earlier prediction. "Local government spending, in cash terms, to be same in 2020 as 2015" - that is obfuscation to the extreme. That statement means nothing. Within that "spending" are very significant cuts to central funding - only areas with a strong council tax base and strong economies can make up the difference with council tax and business rates. And given the alleged devolution to local government - that's a whole lot more responsibilities being met by the same level of funding. | |||
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"This Labour shadow chancellor is really poor. "Isn't he just! Not good. | |||
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"no cut in police budgets..... okay.... this is going to blunt labours attacks over the last couple of weeks against the tax credit cuts and police cuts..... " A politician never went short on attacking a u-turn. | |||
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" The tantrums over the defeat in the Lords were all for nothing then. Everything can be explained away when he needs it to be.
they are going to said they listened.. they have basically been bailed out by the OBR......
It seems that the cuts will apply to those on Universal Credit, affecting 140k families.
There seems to be a clause that means people newly on UC will see the full cuts from 2018. "its seems like the shadow chancellor has just brought up that... i didn't realise that was the case... but as other have said... he is poor..... its just a speech rather than a rebuttle... | |||
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"This Labour shadow chancellor is really poor.
Isn't he just! Not good. "I don't have a clue what points he is trying to make. Andy Burnham and Tom Watson look positively embarrassed | |||
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" The tantrums over the defeat in the Lords were all for nothing then. Everything can be explained away when he needs it to be.
they are going to said they listened.. they have basically been bailed out by the OBR......
It seems that the cuts will apply to those on Universal Credit, affecting 140k families.
There seems to be a clause that means people newly on UC will see the full cuts from 2018.
its seems like the shadow chancellor has just brought up that... i didn't realise that was the case...
"Is that legal? To have cuts of the same benefit affecting some people but not others? Or are there rules around UC that make things possible? | |||
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"This Labour shadow chancellor is really poor.
Isn't he just! Not good.
I don't have a clue what points he is trying to make. Andy Burnham and Tom Watson look positively embarrassed "have to say i am struggling....he is not convincing at all... and rambling on | |||
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"no cut in police budgets..... okay.... this is going to blunt labours attacks over the last couple of weeks against the tax credit cuts and police cuts..... " No wonder the Shadow Chancellor is all at sea. | |||
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"This Labour shadow chancellor is really poor.
Isn't he just! Not good.
I don't have a clue what points he is trying to make. Andy Burnham and Tom Watson look positively embarrassed
have to say i am struggling....he is not convincing at all... and rambling on"He really is rambling on  He's lost me. | |||
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"Its crazy to see the boom and bust of the defence budget. Lets smash all these surveillance planes, don't need them. Oh shit, yes we do, we had better buy some! We don't need aircraft carriers, lets flog all our harriers to the yanks. Bollocks, some naval aviation would be good right about now. Lets buy more F35s from the Americans! We have too many soliders, lets slash their numbers, ah crap, boots on the ground might still be useful after all. We'll put together some high readiness, quick reaction brigades. The Army Reserve will be great in that role! How many soldiers do we want? 82,000. How many can we deploy at any one time? Well we told the public we could deploy 30,000 but that sounds a bit limited now. Ok, how about we raise that number to 50,000? 50,000 out of 82,000, the public would never believe us. Sure they would, its either us or Corbyn, who would they chose for the defence of the realm?! " Good analysis! I think some people need to get out and see the world a bit before complaining how down trodden we are. Anyone who thinks living standards are getting worse (in absolute terms) is using a very short time reference. 150 years ago, a mere commoner like myself would have been grateful for 1 day of leisure a week! I'm not saying we shouldn't have higher expectations of our politicians. But seriously, take a trip round Asia before you talk about homelessness and starvation in this country. | |||
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" Is that legal? To have cuts of the same benefit affecting some people but not others? Or are there rules around UC that make things possible?" I assume it would be legal as it would only affect new claiments... and not those already getting.... those being switched onto UC would keep what they alread get i assume.... I wonder it is a loophole they will close if enough press and pressure is put on? | |||
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"Its crazy to see the boom and bust of the defence budget. Lets smash all these surveillance planes, don't need them. Oh shit, yes we do, we had better buy some! We don't need aircraft carriers, lets flog all our harriers to the yanks. Bollocks, some naval aviation would be good right about now. Lets buy more F35s from the Americans! We have too many soliders, lets slash their numbers, ah crap, boots on the ground might still be useful after all. We'll put together some high readiness, quick reaction brigades. The Army Reserve will be great in that role! How many soldiers do we want? 82,000. How many can we deploy at any one time? Well we told the public we could deploy 30,000 but that sounds a bit limited now. Ok, how about we raise that number to 50,000? 50,000 out of 82,000, the public would never believe us. Sure they would, its either us or Corbyn, who would they chose for the defence of the realm?! Good analysis! I think some people need to get out and see the world a bit before complaining how down trodden we are. Anyone who thinks living standards are getting worse (in absolute terms) is using a very short time reference. 150 years ago, a mere commoner like myself would have been grateful for 1 day of leisure a week! I'm not saying we shouldn't have higher expectations of our politicians. But seriously, take a trip round Asia before you talk about homelessness and starvation in this country. " | |||
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"Seriously, we need a competent opposition, this is one of the worst speeches I have seen in a long while. Who is going to hold this govt account while we have a Labour party is a hopeless mess?" It's the "new politics" though, innit? Because they're about more than just appearances. | |||
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"Seriously, we need a competent opposition, this is one of the worst speeches I have seen in a long while. Who is going to hold this govt account while we have a Labour party is a hopeless mess? It's the "new politics" though, innit? Because they're about more than just appearances. " Osborne's response was brutal! | |||
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"What will the cuts to UC be?" It seems from what I've read, that people on UC will have a 50% tax credit cut. But new claimants on UC from 2018 will have full tax credit cuts. I might have read it wrong, hopefully Fabio or someone else can correct me if I am. | |||
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"Is it me or does Corbyn look like he has just fallen through the ceiling and landed in his seat? " Yeah ain't he just a rebel ... Kinda sums up the state of the labour party at present...
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"Is it me or does Corbyn look like he has just fallen through the ceiling and landed in his seat? Yeah ain't he just a rebel ... Kinda sums up the state of the labour party at present...
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"Seriously, we need a competent opposition, this is one of the worst speeches I have seen in a long while. Who is going to hold this govt account while we have a Labour party is a hopeless mess?" the pair of them are out of their depth.. | |||
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"Is it me or does Corbyn look like he has just fallen through the ceiling and landed in his seat? Yeah ain't he just a rebel ... Kinda sums up the state of the labour party at present...
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"Extra 600 million for mental health. "Considering that the budget for my Mental Health Trust (one of two in this medium-sized city) was cut by almost £2million in the last year alone (2 acute wards and 3 rehab facilities closed), I'd say that is a drop in the ocean. | |||
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"Just saw the little Red book incident. What on earth was he thinking!? So when centre ground voters are already questioning your economic credibility, you whip out a book written by one of the most economically incompetent leaders of all time!!! It's like turning up to a peace rally and quoting mein kampf " my views exactly! i voted for the other guy and warned that Corbyn and chums would be a disaster. The sheer amateurishness of it all frustrates me so much! | |||
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"Just saw the little Red book incident. What on earth was he thinking!? So when centre ground voters are already questioning your economic credibility, you whip out a book written by one of the most economically incompetent leaders of all time!!! It's like turning up to a peace rally and quoting mein kampf my views exactly! i voted for the other guy and warned that Corbyn and chums would be a disaster. The sheer amateurishness of it all frustrates me so much! " What I find ironic is that Corbyn actually has Thomas Picketty as a pal. Picketty is currently riding a wave of popular credibility for his recent book. Quote from the economist "it is the economics book taking the world by storm" (despite being about 500 pages than it needed to be). So McDonnell could quote his mate, but instead went with the guy whose economic policies starved 20m people to death - sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. | |||
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"Just saw the little Red book incident. What on earth was he thinking!? So when centre ground voters are already questioning your economic credibility, you whip out a book written by one of the most economically incompetent leaders of all time!!! It's like turning up to a peace rally and quoting mein kampf " A party that proclaims to be on the side of the little man starts quoting from a maniac who starved to death nearly 60 million people?? Surely this stunt was run past Corbyn? If not does he have any control over his party? Either way not impressed. Buggered who I would vote for now. | |||
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"Just saw the little Red book incident. What on earth was he thinking!? So when centre ground voters are already questioning your economic credibility, you whip out a book written by one of the most economically incompetent leaders of all time!!! It's like turning up to a peace rally and quoting mein kampf A party that proclaims to be on the side of the little man starts quoting from a maniac who starved to death nearly 60 million people?? Surely this stunt was run past Corbyn? If not does he have any control over his party? Either way not impressed. Buggered who I would vote for now. "Cough, lib dems, cough | |||
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"Just saw the little Red book incident. What on earth was he thinking!? So when centre ground voters are already questioning your economic credibility, you whip out a book written by one of the most economically incompetent leaders of all time!!! It's like turning up to a peace rally and quoting mein kampf A party that proclaims to be on the side of the little man starts quoting from a maniac who starved to death nearly 60 million people?? Surely this stunt was run past Corbyn? If not does he have any control over his party? Either way not impressed. Buggered who I would vote for now. "the one who just fixed the economy and delivered such a great budget it even silenced the fab haters? | |||
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"Just saw the little Red book incident. What on earth was he thinking!? So when centre ground voters are already questioning your economic credibility, you whip out a book written by one of the most economically incompetent leaders of all time!!! It's like turning up to a peace rally and quoting mein kampf A party that proclaims to be on the side of the little man starts quoting from a maniac who starved to death nearly 60 million people?? Surely this stunt was run past Corbyn? If not does he have any control over his party? Either way not impressed. Buggered who I would vote for now.
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"this is worth a read... especially if you ever took out a student loan... lets just say the devil is in the fine print..... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/25/spending-review-2015-small-print-tax-credit-cuts-student-loans" Truth is that very few people are going to get to the fine print when the headlines are going to focus on a failed attempt at a joke! | |||
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"this is worth a read... especially if you ever took out a student loan... lets just say the devil is in the fine print..... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/25/spending-review-2015-small-print-tax-credit-cuts-student-loans" I'm going to read this on my pc later | |||
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"this is worth a read... especially if you ever took out a student loan... lets just say the devil is in the fine print..... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/25/spending-review-2015-small-print-tax-credit-cuts-student-loans" I've got to say on student loans I don't think freezing the repayment threshold is such a bad thing. Mine accrued loads of interest at the beginning because I was only earning just over the threshold and was only repaying less than half of the interest accruing each month. I would have been better off if the threshold were lower and I was paying slightly more. And it probably added a year or so to the time it took me to get rid of it. | |||
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"Just saw the little Red book incident. What on earth was he thinking!? So when centre ground voters are already questioning your economic credibility, you whip out a book written by one of the most economically incompetent leaders of all time!!! It's like turning up to a peace rally and quoting mein kampf my views exactly! i voted for the other guy and warned that Corbyn and chums would be a disaster. The sheer amateurishness of it all frustrates me so much! " Exactly...  | |||
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"Whatever happens it will make the poor poorer, the rich richer and the most vulnerable even more vulnerable. Still, we're all in it together, eh?
I have a better idea - spend the dosh they are planning to spend on nukes and spend it on children in need instead, then every year, have a fun fundraising activity to buy nukes.
Can you imagine Terry Wogan running a telethon raising money for ICBM's
Which begs the question would you make a donation to an annual event where the proceeds raised were used to help reduce the national debt and therefore allow the chancellor to cut less deeply services which effect poorer members of our society... ?
I'd rather he spent less on tanks and more on homeless people and starving kids. "We all like peace and would all love not to have to spend any money on weapons. Most of us all also know that that, if not utopian, is at best incredibly naive. It's a 'motherhood & apple pie' statement. | |||
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"My biggest concern is social care. The knock-on effects are acute. But I think this is a bit of a smoke screen, he's cutting hard now so he can spend the year before the election, even if the books aren't balanced, he'll reason away that they're balanced enough. How would you reduce the national debt?
I'd scrap Trident for a start.
"How much, if any, extra would you spend on conventional defence? " I'd stop using international aid as bribe money. " Bribe money for what? Also, unless you're suggesting we reduce the aid budget by whatever this alleged amount is, simply making sure that the money is better spent won't reduce the aid budget and, consequently, won't reduce the deficit. " I'd reduce pensioner benefits. " An attack on those who produced the wealth. " Increase the cost of prescriptions. " Which would hit low and middle earners hardest " I'd have larger scale progressive property taxes. " Which would disproportionately hit pensioners and middle earners " I'd let councils borrow money to build homes so that we could get more control over the housing benefit bill and have pre-Thatcher housing supply. " Who's going to pay the interest on these loans? Is it going to be funded by increasing Council Tax? If so then another attack on middle earners. " Increase income taxes. " Middle earners again. " Tax reform to eliminate as many loopholes as possible. " What sort of reforms that have not already been tried do you have in mind? " Mandatory minimum prison sentences for employers found to be knowingly paying below the minimum wage. " A bit draconian and unlikely to be more affective than a heavy fine but I wouldn't oppose it. " I'd actually totally change the structure of government. " How would totally changing the structure of government help decrease the deficit? Or is that code for more and deeper cuts in government departments than they're already having to face in the current spending review? " Just some of the things "[[[[ | |||
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"Just my opinion but someone is bound to 'shoot me'. I'd say stop aid for overseas and get out of Europe. We are a net contributor so that will save us a ton. And I tend not to agree that the poor will get poorer and the rich richer. Truly poor people are few and far between in this country. Benefits make the very needy able to rent accommodation and buy food etc. The people who actually suffer are those in the middle. Not poor enough to get things paid for and not well off enough to afford things. We have also become accustomed to having a lot of things that are actually luxuries, such as big TVs, wine with dinner every day etc. And anyone who can afford to smoke is really not poor
Just my considered opinion "Apart from Europe and foreign aid I agree. | |||
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"Whatever happens it will make the poor poorer, the rich richer and the most vulnerable even more vulnerable. Still, we're all in it together, eh?
I have a better idea - spend the dosh they are planning to spend on nukes and spend it on children in need instead, then every year, have a fun fundraising activity to buy nukes.
Can you imagine Terry Wogan running a telethon raising money for ICBM's
Which begs the question would you make a donation to an annual event where the proceeds raised were used to help reduce the national debt and therefore allow the chancellor to cut less deeply services which effect poorer members of our society... ?
I'd rather he spent less on tanks and more on homeless people and starving kids.
We all like peace and would all love not to have to spend any money on weapons. Most of us all also know that that, if not utopian, is at best incredibly naive. It's a 'motherhood & apple pie' statement."The real cost of replacing trident (i.e not the stupid figures the SNP band about) is less than a quarter of the bailout of RBS. RBS was a complete fucking waste of money in my opinion and should have been left to rot, as is the true capitalist way. Trident replacement isn't even 1% of our national debt so I'm so bored of hearing about how scrapping trident would make a fucking difference to our debt problem. | |||
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"So much for 'family values'. Tax credits were introduced when tax allowances for married couples and having children was withdrawn. It's now become means tested and gets lower and lower every year. I needed it when I was on a low income just to make ends meet. Transfering it to Universal Credit is rediculous and another way of manipulating statistics. " Working Tax Credit was introduced in 2003 by Labour, and I believe has always been means tested. | |||
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"So much for 'family values'. Tax credits were introduced when tax allowances for married couples and having children was withdrawn. It's now become means tested and gets lower and lower every year. I needed it when I was on a low income just to make ends meet. Transfering it to Universal Credit is rediculous and another way of manipulating statistics. " Actually the married couples tax allowance was withdrawn by Nigel Lawson as part of his independent tax program (prior to which the income of your spouse was also used in calculating your total tax liability). A new Marriage tax allowance has actually been introduced by this government and came into operation this year. Child tax allowance was withdrawn so long ago that even my parents were never eligible to claim it for me. Child tax allowance was replaced with a direct payment, normally payable to the mother, called Family Allowance which later became Child Benefit. | |||
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"So much for 'family values'. Tax credits were introduced when tax allowances for married couples and having children was withdrawn. It's now become means tested and gets lower and lower every year. I needed it when I was on a low income just to make ends meet. Transfering it to Universal Credit is rediculous and another way of manipulating statistics. Actually the married couples tax allowance was withdrawn by Nigel Lawson as part of his independent tax program (prior to which the income of your spouse was also used in calculating your total tax liability). A new Marriage tax allowance has actually been introduced by this government and came into operation this year. Child tax allowance was withdrawn so long ago that even my parents were never eligible to claim it for me. Child tax allowance was replaced with a direct payment, normally payable to the mother, called Family Allowance which later became Child Benefit." It was modified by Lawson, but scrapped by Gordon Brown in 2000. | |||
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