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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I need a bit of advice really.....I work full time and my housing is freezing when I get home as the timer on my boiler has broke (has been since I moved in) what is the most cost effective way to hear my home? Do I have it on constant but keep it on low? Or do I just switch it on when I come in from work and grow icicles while waiting for my home to get warm...I just don't want to be landed with a huge bill....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is an app you can get to hear your home. It's called hive.

Basically you can access your heating set up via the app and turn it on, say one hour before going home or if you forgot to switch it off, you can do it remotely. May be worth investigating miss CC xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would probably be cheapest in the long run if you get the timer fixed. Have you looked into how much that would cost?

-Courtney

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"There is an app you can get to hear your home. It's called hive.

I think my boiler is too old for that...

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"It would probably be cheapest in the long run if you get the timer fixed. Have you looked into how much that would cost?

-Courtney"

It would be my landlord and he knows about it and getting it fixed eventually...

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I want the answer to what CC asked cos i'd like to know.

My neighbour tells me to leave my heating on very low all day as it warms the walls.

But im not here. So I won't

He says I am spending more because I have to heat it from cold every day.

I don't want a mahoosive bill either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can you not get this set up wired up to the wifi?

Tbh I've not done much looking into it but have heard so many great things about it xx

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"I need a bit of advice really.....I work full time and my housing is freezing when I get home as the timer on my boiler has broke (has been since I moved in) what is the most cost effective way to hear my home? Do I have it on constant but keep it on low? Or do I just switch it on when I come in from work and grow icicles while waiting for my home to get warm...I just don't want to be landed with a huge bill....

I control my home by the thermostat and just turn it down when I am out. Quickier to reach temp when back in

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

Change your wall thermostat to a digital one, I did this (replaced it myself) and you leave your boiler 'on' constantly but it's controlled by the thermostat and iidnyoire out all day just drop the temperature you want the house heated to for those hours, also means you can have variable temperatures for daytimes and night times

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

what sort of fuel is it, what sort of boiler and how old are we talking?(the original comission date will probably be written on it somewhere)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe get the timer fixed then you can set the heating to come on before you get home.

Although my dad (heating engineer) always says its best to have the heating on low all the time when the weather is cold and then just bump it up when needed such as evenings and early mornings

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"I want the answer to what CC asked cos i'd like to know.

My neighbour tells me to leave my heating on very low all day as it warms the walls.

But im not here. So I won't

He says I am spending more because I have to heat it from cold every day.

I don't want a mahoosive bill either. "

That's what I got told as well and my landlord said he left the heating on low all winter....I got told I'm spending more as I'm heating it from cold..

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

And the leaving it on low bit is rubbish, you use more fuel doing that

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By *iscean MaleMan
over a year ago

Darlaston

In harsh weathers.. it pays to keep heating ticking over..

It keep the inards of the heating system in good working order

And alos it costs more to heat the heating system up from cold and therefore takes longer to heat the house.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I'd be making sure my landlord got it fixed its his responsibility.

I was always told to !leave heating on very low all the while, that's in the days when pipes froze over and everything. Luckily my house warms up straight away

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Oh and do Meyer readings and work it out which costs the most to do.

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"I want the answer to what CC asked cos i'd like to know.

My neighbour tells me to leave my heating on very low all day as it warms the walls.

But im not here. So I won't

He says I am spending more because I have to heat it from cold every day.

I don't want a mahoosive bill either.

That's what I got told as well and my landlord said he left the heating on low all winter....I got told I'm spending more as I'm heating it from cold.."

A lot to take into account, insulation, Windows, type of property, air tightness etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I heard it was cheaper to have it on all day but it wasn't.

I just have it on for an hour in the morning then a few hours in the evening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell your landlord to up his game and get it fixed in this weather. Badger him it's not fair on you to suffer. You pay your rent on time so he needs to keep his end of the bargain.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"what sort of fuel is it, what sort of boiler and how old are we talking?(the original comission date will probably be written on it somewhere)"

Central heating so I guess gas it's a ferroli optima boiler built in 1862....I can't see a date

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get it fixed. More expensive in short term, cheaper over all. Leaving it on all day will be expensive, and getting a Hive compatible boiler will be expensive too (though British Gas do loans with Barclays).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It would probably be cheapest in the long run if you get the timer fixed. Have you looked into how much that would cost?

-Courtney

It would be my landlord and he knows about it and getting it fixed eventually..."

Ok, I just did a bit of research, read a few sites. This one had the best total explanation:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/energy-saving-myths

Basically, it depends on the insulation in your house, but the consensus seems to be that it is cheaper to just heat it when necessary (especially with a timer). If you heat it all day, there is always a certain amount of heat you are losing, so you are basically wasting that energy and cash. The worse your insulation the worse this loss will be.

Hope that helps.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's more cost effective to leave the heating on low all the time and keep the fabric of your home warm, than to turn the heating off and then have to burn more fuel to warm everything before you feel the benefit. But as been pointed out your landlord has a duty of care to repair the faulty thermostat ..... I'm sure he would be in your back soon enough if you withheld your rent!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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get yourself a onesie and keep a duvet ready downstairs x

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

Have you a wall thermostat as well as a timer?

If so I definitely think the digital option is best, they're not expensive either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh, if you're renting then he'll probably have cover for it. Definitely call him everyday til it's fixed.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Ok ok I understand about getting it fixed but it's not fixed so just asking for a solution until it's fixed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And the leaving it on low bit is rubbish, you use more fuel doing that"

I disagree with that. My experience (after following my dads advice) proved that my fuel bill was lower after keeping the heating on low during cold weather.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

"It would probably be cheapest in the long run if you get the timer fixed. Have you looked into how much that would cost?

-Courtney

It would be my landlord and he knows about it and getting it fixed eventually..."

Eventually??? Isn't there something in your tenancy about timely repairs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok ok I understand about getting it fixed but it's not fixed so just asking for a solution until it's fixed

If it's only short term, then leave it on low in the meanwhile. It's not a permanent solution as it'll be more expensive, but for a few days it'll alleviate the cold.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A friend of my ex (who's a plumber) said keep it around 17 degrees and turn it up if it gets hot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A friend of my ex (who's a plumber) said keep it around 17 degrees and turn it up if it gets hot"

*cold

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

"And the leaving it on low bit is rubbish, you use more fuel doing that

I disagree with that. My experience (after following my dads advice) proved that my fuel bill was lower after keeping the heating on low during cold weather."

Heating expert on radio 4 the other day disagrees as well I'm afraid, the interviewer asked him directly and he said the leaving it on low but is an old wives tail and costs more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The cheapest way is to leave it on lower temp when your out and over night.

You are heating a house from cold it has to reheat the walls etc as well not jsut the air. It may sound like you are just wasting money but in the long run works out cheaper.

Also if you have an old house like us it cuts down on condensation as massive temp changes create problems.

I have spent quite a bit of time looking into the condensation problem and it sort of overlaps what's best for the cheapest way to heat your home.

The other main difference is if you are brick or timber frame, the later taking less to reheat. It's called thermal mass. Bricks mortar and conrete will store heat.

Hope that makes sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And the leaving it on low bit is rubbish, you use more fuel doing that

I disagree with that. My experience (after following my dads advice) proved that my fuel bill was lower after keeping the heating on low during cold weather.

Heating expert on radio 4 the other day disagrees as well I'm afraid, the interviewer asked him directly and he said the leaving it on low but is an old wives tail and costs more"

It'd cost more for me too. Plus it's incredibly wasteful heating an empty house.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And the leaving it on low bit is rubbish, you use more fuel doing that

I disagree with that. My experience (after following my dads advice) proved that my fuel bill was lower after keeping the heating on low during cold weather."

I leave mine on low all the time, the stat fires it up when under 18 degrees, my gas bill is 80 quid a month during the winter months

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"The cheapest way is to leave it on lower temp when your out and over night.

You are heating a house from cold it has to reheat the walls etc as well not jsut the air. It may sound like you are just wasting money but in the long run works out cheaper.

Also if you have an old house like us it cuts down on condensation as massive temp changes create problems.

I have spent quite a bit of time looking into the condensation problem and it sort of overlaps what's best for the cheapest way to heat your home.

The other main difference is if you are brick or timber frame, the later taking less to reheat. It's called thermal mass. Bricks mortar and conrete will store heat.

Hope that makes sense

I live in an old house 1900 well it's not that old and have like you condensation issues

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

Oh I get the cheap boxes from poundland for condensation - they have crystals that absorb moisture

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And the leaving it on low bit is rubbish, you use more fuel doing that

I disagree with that. My experience (after following my dads advice) proved that my fuel bill was lower after keeping the heating on low during cold weather.

Heating expert on radio 4 the other day disagrees as well I'm afraid, the interviewer asked him directly and he said the leaving it on low but is an old wives tail and costs more"

My fuel bills showed the opposite so im happy with that old wives tale (must remember to tell my dad hes an old wife !)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Glad i could help

If you want any more advice just send us a mail

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Oh I get the cheap boxes from poundland for condensation - they have crystals that absorb moisture "

I have all that in fact my landlord gave me some really good new ones that have just come out...

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

"I want the answer to what CC asked cos i'd like to know.

My neighbour tells me to leave my heating on very low all day as it warms the walls.

But im not here. So I won't

He says I am spending more because I have to heat it from cold every day.

I don't want a mahoosive bill either.

That's what I got told as well and my landlord said he left the heating on low all winter....I got told I'm spending more as I'm heating it from cold.."

It's a myth, that.

Go to Martin Lewis's Money Saving site, and he has a whole feature about it.

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By *iscean MaleMan
over a year ago

Darlaston

"Oh I get the cheap boxes from poundland for condensation - they have crystals that absorb moisture

I have all that in fact my landlord gave me some really good new ones that have just come out..."

Dont let landlord butter you up. He has contractual obligations to keep house in working order

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"I want the answer to what CC asked cos i'd like to know.

My neighbour tells me to leave my heating on very low all day as it warms the walls.

But im not here. So I won't

He says I am spending more because I have to heat it from cold every day.

I don't want a mahoosive bill either.

That's what I got told as well and my landlord said he left the heating on low all winter....I got told I'm spending more as I'm heating it from cold..

It's a myth, that.

Go to Martin Lewis's Money Saving site, and he has a whole feature about it. "

I have read up on it all I'm just confused however thanks for the advice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have hive it's great

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Oh I get the cheap boxes from poundland for condensation - they have crystals that absorb moisture

I have all that in fact my landlord gave me some really good new ones that have just come out...

Dont let landlord butter you up. He has contractual obligations to keep house in working order"

I do know my rights he isn't buttering me up far from it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Offer's ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Timed and thermostat is the only economic way to heat a home... msg me if you wanna MissCC...

WTF

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

"Oh I get the cheap boxes from poundland for condensation - they have crystals that absorb moisture

I have all that in fact my landlord gave me some really good new ones that have just come out..."

They sound like pretty they're decent then. I hope your timer is fixed soon & thank god it still works without it - no heating in this weather is unbearable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The leave it on low constantly is ok if your home is draft free and your thermostat is well positioned.

Changing a contoller is a five minute job and timers aren't specific to boilers boilers so give you landlord some stick.

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By *iscean MaleMan
over a year ago

Darlaston

"Oh I get the cheap boxes from poundland for condensation - they have crystals that absorb moisture

I have all that in fact my landlord gave me some really good new ones that have just come out...

Dont let landlord butter you up. He has contractual obligations to keep house in working order

I do know my rights he isn't buttering me up far from it...

Just dont want u sitting there with cold nips

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And the leaving it on low bit is rubbish, you use more fuel doing that"

It is not rubbish at all.

I proved that last yr. Previous two yrs I put heating on as and when I wanted it or on timer. Last year on the advice of the guy who does the boiler inspection, I left it on low constantly, just turned it up when required. Bill was over 200 quid cheaper for the 4 months Nov - March.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Back to main problem

Get timer fixed. But a secondary question needs to be asked

There should be some sort of record when boiler was last serviced.

Should be once a year. A well serviced boiler should also reduce fuel used.

Being a landlord - I ve a duty of care, if not fixed the tenant could always deduct from rent and furnish receipt to landlord

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I leave mine on low all day then switch off at night just befor bedtime

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By *nnie2009Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

pity ur landlord wont let u have log burner, u have a nice big fireplace

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

as far as i remember the optimax has a digital timer built into the front panel, is that what you've got? if it is, are there any numbers showing on the little screen or is it totally blank?

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Back to main problem

Get timer fixed. But a secondary question needs to be asked

There should be some sort of record when boiler was last serviced.

Should be once a year. A well serviced boiler should also reduce fuel used.

Being a landlord - I ve a duty of care, if not fixed the tenant could always deduct from rent and furnish receipt to landlord "

The boiler is checked when needed

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

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"The leave it on low constantly is ok if your home is draft free and your thermostat is well positioned.

Changing a contoller is a five minute job and timers aren't specific to boilers boilers so give you landlord some stick.

Agreed. Landlords are notorious for not lifting a finger, or doing as little as they possibly can, whilst dragging their heels.

I'm speaking from past experience and I'm sure others on here have plenty of stories.

Just pester him until he pulls his finger out and gets it sorted for you.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"as far as i remember the optimax has a digital timer built into the front panel, is that what you've got? if it is, are there any numbers showing on the little screen or is it totally blank?"

There is a digital timer and the time is showing up but it's not letting me set the timer etc but I'm shit at this kind of things and in my landlords defence I only let him know last week..

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"The leave it on low constantly is ok if your home is draft free and your thermostat is well positioned.

Changing a contoller is a five minute job and timers aren't specific to boilers boilers so give you landlord some stick.

Agreed. Landlords are notorious for not lifting a finger, or doing as little as they possibly can, whilst dragging their heels.

I'm speaking from past experience and I'm sure others on here have plenty of stories.

Just pester him until he pulls his finger out and gets it sorted for you. "

Can we get off what my landlord should and shouldn't be doing I am fully aware of my rights as a tenant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The leave it on low constantly is ok if your home is draft free and your thermostat is well positioned.

Changing a contoller is a five minute job and timers aren't specific to boilers boilers so give you landlord some stick.

Agreed. Landlords are notorious for not lifting a finger, or doing as little as they possibly can, whilst dragging their heels.

I'm speaking from past experience and I'm sure others on here have plenty of stories.

Just pester him until he pulls his finger out and gets it sorted for you. "

My landlord is great

I text mine today problems with the bath

They popped around this evening to have a look. Plumber called to pay a visit.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

ok, have you got a manual for it showing the step by step guide? the optimax is a complicated twat to program

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Might be worth having a look on interWeb for programmer instructions of boiler... sometimes you need to flick a switch left or right to change settings...

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"ok, have you got a manual for it showing the step by step guide? the optimax is a complicated twat to program "

No I don't have a manual....

now you tell me this

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Might be worth having a look on interWeb for programmer instructions of boiler... sometimes you need to flick a switch left or right to change settings...

xx "

Can't I just kick it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Might be worth having a look on interWeb for programmer instructions of boiler... sometimes you need to flick a switch left or right to change settings...

Can't I just kick it?

knew you'd go all techy on me...

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By *iscean MaleMan
over a year ago

Darlaston

"Back to main problem

Get timer fixed. But a secondary question needs to be asked

There should be some sort of record when boiler was last serviced.

Should be once a year. A well serviced boiler should also reduce fuel used.

Being a landlord - I ve a duty of care, if not fixed the tenant could always deduct from rent and furnish receipt to landlord "

Having a boiler serviced and ensuring it is in good working order and safe does not cover the timer working..? A boiler can be serviced and legal but the timer not working is a seperate issue and there are no legalalities for a timer..as long as you are not going to get a shock.. as the op says boiler does come on and go off.. just not at set times... just a thought not arguing..

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

go to bing ... type in "ferolli optimax timer" ... the fifth link in the list should be for uk plumbers forums ..... click on it .... look down the forum for the sixth post by a guy called mickie .... he's posted a link for the programming guide .... it may cover your model hopefully (but no guarantee)

good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

"ok, have you got a manual for it showing the step by step guide? the optimax is a complicated twat to program

No I don't have a manual....

now you tell me this

Have you tried turning it off, and the on again

I'm wasted not working in IT with this level of knowledge

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

"what sort of fuel is it, what sort of boiler and how old are we talking?(the original comission date will probably be written on it somewhere)

Central heating so I guess gas it's a ferroli optima boiler built in 1862....I can't see a date

Ferroli, mmm, AKA Fucking pos Ferroli

We junked ours and got an Ideal.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp."

And a lot of older houses don't have cavity walls...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have a contract between yourself and your landlord. It his his/her duty to fix your boiler or heating system if it's not working properly.

Once fixed. Have the timer set to kick in the morning 30 mins, afternoon 30mins and evening one hour before you get home each day. That will keep the trmo reasonabke stable until you get home

It's what I do and it feels and works well for me.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I turn heating on when I get home and off a while before I leave. I'm confident it's the reason my bills are really low. I'm not heating a place for 24 hours when I'm needing it done for a quarter of this. I don't heat all rooms either, if not used.

A 1kw fan heater would probably take the chill away when returning home and the central heating is kicking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hive is £250. I had a quote today

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Until the timer is fixed just switch it on as soon as you come in from work, buy a cheap halogen electric heater or hot air heater which you can put on to heat up one room in the house pretty quick. They have some cheap halogen electric heaters in B and M bargains for a fiver. Also use a hot water bottle to hug while you are waiting for the house to heat up.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

as a plumber ive had the same argument with mother

always best to keep your system on low during cold months as stops your walls becoming cold

its more so true with old propertys

with new propertys there more energy efficent and a low setting is just fine but quick heat can bring them up to temperature

as with your timer you can run it from a plug in timer that you would use for lights

or buy a new time clock for it most are plug in like a car plug on them easy enough to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaqZfBrW0YU

there is also other timeclocks that will fit your boiler and an external one can also be used

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We don't have a thermostat on ours and the timer is a bit complicated for my blonde head to work out so I just put ours on when needed but I have a flame fire too so when it's freezing I stick that on while the rest of the house is heating up.

So maybe get your self a little heater and stay in one room till the rest warms up? X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get hive and download app on your phone.works well for me.

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By *moothies.Couple
over a year ago

Woodthorpe

Check out http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/energy-saving-myths

We changed to a digital thermostat years ago and it soon saved us the cost as it was more effective than a dial one. We could also see how hot the house was and put a woolly on when feeling chilly but seeing the house was actually warm

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over a year ago

"It would probably be cheapest in the long run if you get the timer fixed. Have you looked into how much that would cost?

-Courtney

It would be my landlord and he knows about it and getting it fixed eventually..."

You need to get on at him and keep ringing every couple of days, cos eventually isn't good enough.

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"what sort of fuel is it, what sort of boiler and how old are we talking?(the original comission date will probably be written on it somewhere)

Central heating so I guess gas it's a ferroli optima boiler built in 1862....I can't see a date

Ferroli, mmm, AKA Fucking pos Ferroli

We junked ours and got an Ideal."

Funny I junked my ideal & got a Worcester

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp."

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm thinking keep fit regime as soon as you get in ,get your Kelly brook DVD on and build up a bit of body heat while heating is doing its warm up process

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"It would probably be cheapest in the long run if you get the timer fixed. Have you looked into how much that would cost?

-Courtney

It would be my landlord and he knows about it and getting it fixed eventually...

You need to get on at him and keep ringing every couple of days, cos eventually isn't good enough."

No shit Sherlock

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over a year ago

"It would probably be cheapest in the long run if you get the timer fixed. Have you looked into how much that would cost?

-Courtney

It would be my landlord and he knows about it and getting it fixed eventually...

You need to get on at him and keep ringing every couple of days, cos eventually isn't good enough.

No shit Sherlock

No need to be rude

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

Martins money tips did a bit on this. Fairly confident it said to NOT use heating constantly. Have a look? X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've a gas fire in the lounge as well as central heating, once it gets really cold, I leave the fire on low when I'm out so it's fairly wam when I get home from work, a godsend when I don't get home until 11pm

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over a year ago

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open "

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

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By *andm288Couple
over a year ago

oxford

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp."

WTF some people

I m in the trade and I have never heard of such rubbish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

"
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Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp"

But you heating the outside when you open the windows on a heated house. They are making newer houses more air tight and putting in heat recovery systems in to prevent heat lost

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over a year ago

unless we are in the middle of a deep freeze when i leave it on but lower the stat to keep at a minimum - and i am talking low temp here - other than that i just shove the heating on when i get in - if you do it straight away and keep busy - cooking - bit of housework etc you will keep warm til the house catches up with you

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By *irkby coupleCouple
over a year ago

Kirkby

When we moved into our home, we didn't have central heating or mains gas, my partner bought an electric heater and a timer that you plug in, it was set to come on 1 hrs before we got up and 1 he before we got home. We had 1 up stairs and down stair and left the doors open do the heat can get into all rooms. Worked great, them thing belt out some heat.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp"

I was always told to leave window open in bathroom when having a shower etc, I didn't do it that often in my property and now I have mould growing on ceiling I have always been told to ventilate bathroom etc

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over a year ago

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp

But you heating the outside when you open the windows on a heated house. They are making newer houses more air tight and putting in heat recovery systems in to prevent heat lost"

Except mine isn't a new build property; its a former council house and therefore needs ventilation. As it stands, even if I bought a new build, I would still have windows open as that is what I am used to

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

did you get anywhere with programming your timer?

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp

Have you not got an extraction fan in bathroom

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp

"
I've never closed my bathroom window in 20 years, easiest way to get damp and mould

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By *lashheartMan
over a year ago

shrewsbury

I've got a little plug in radiator with a timer.

Pop it to come on just before your due home, heats the one room while the rest warms up when you've put the heating on

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over a year ago

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp

Have you not got an extraction fan in bathroom"

Nope just a window and yes I could probably do with one

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp

Have you not got an extraction fan in bathroom

Nope just a window and yes I could probably do with one "

They are useful especially if fitted well and not just going into loft space has mine was when I moved in

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Are we playing tit for tat or something

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp

Have you not got an extraction fan in bathroom"

yup

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"did you get anywhere with programming your timer?

Nope will try later

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"Are we playing tit for tat or something

Exchange of views.

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By *offee and Cream 2Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Loughborough

Send a letter to your landlord recorded delivery, stating that you are asking him to fix the faulty heating system within 7 days, or else you will be exercising your rights to call in a central heating engineer of your own choice to get the work done, and the bill sent direct to your landlord. That should do the trick!

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp

Have you not got an extraction fan in bathroom

Nope just a window and yes I could probably do with one "

The older houses do need to breath, a lot of people put new air tight windows in insulation in loft and walls and block up air vents. Then moan when mould starts.

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over a year ago

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp

Have you not got an extraction fan in bathroom

Nope just a window and yes I could probably do with one

They are useful especially if fitted well and not just going into loft space has mine was when I moved in

However I'm looking to sell my house and downsize in the new year so I'm not spending money on unnecessary work

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Send a letter to your landlord recorded delivery, stating that you are asking him to fix the faulty heating system within 7 days, or else you will be exercising your rights to call in a central heating engineer of your own choice to get the work done, and the bill sent direct to your landlord. That should do the trick!

I'm not playing that game with him as he is a bloody decent landlord and gets repairs completed within 48 hours as I said previously I only informed him late last week my issue is not with my landlord I am fully aware of my rights as a tenant.

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

"Check out the aches which offer free cavity wall fillings...on older houses it really helps...

Cavity wall insulation is bad for the building. The cavity is to let the building breathe, filling it with insulation will eventually cause damp.

Then you get an enviro fan fitted to push damp out of walls

Or leave windows open

& that's the easiest way to let in moist air into house to keep condensation cycle going

Can't agree there sorry as I've no damp in my house, keeping you're property well ventilated especially in winter with the heating on helps prevent condensation and damp

Have you not got an extraction fan in bathroom

Nope just a window and yes I could probably do with one

They are useful especially if fitted well and not just going into loft space has mine was when I moved in

However I'm looking to sell my house and downsize in the new year so I'm not spending money on unnecessary work"

I've just started getting quotes for the main bath to be refurbished, might have to sell a kidney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Currently I have no heating or hot water as boiler decided not to work this morning .... Waiting to hear from the engineer .... Glad to be on my way to work in the warm

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

" i just shove the heating on when i get in - if you do it straight away and keep busy - cooking - bit of housework etc you will keep warm til the house catches up with you "

That's the women sorted, what about us blokes though???

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over a year ago

" i just shove the heating on when i get in - if you do it straight away and keep busy - cooking - bit of housework etc you will keep warm til the house catches up with you

That's the women sorted, what about us blokes though???

Have a vigorous wank.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remember going back to my student flat after one Christmas - was colder in the flat than it was outside.

The walls were so cold felt like I was in a freezer

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By *ike00465Man
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Change your wall thermostat to a digital one, I did this (replaced it myself) and you leave your boiler 'on' constantly but it's controlled by the thermostat and iidnyoire out all day just drop the temperature you want the house heated to for those hours, also means you can have variable temperatures for daytimes and night times "

Same here

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

" i just shove the heating on when i get in - if you do it straight away and keep busy - cooking - bit of housework etc you will keep warm til the house catches up with you

That's the women sorted, what about us blokes though???

Have a vigorous wank.

Just been told of by Frisky for my last comment...

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over a year ago

"It would probably be cheapest in the long run if you get the timer fixed. Have you looked into how much that would cost?

-Courtney

It would be my landlord and he knows about it and getting it fixed eventually..."

2 years ago before I bought my house the boiler packed in over Christmas. My landlord got me electric heaters and reimbursed me for the cost of electricity it used.

They are legally obliged to get it sorted ASAP and that was the only option.

If your house was advertised with central heating you can withhold rent but must go about it in the right way

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