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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts

In today's language??

It seems more & more people are saying fink instead of think and fanks instead of thanks etc.

Personally think it sounds awful.

Btw. This is not a rant, just an observation

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it to make it almost inintelligible.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Try reading some Chaucer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's always been like that. I was an offender of it when I was younger but thankfully I had parents who would correct me on my language, and I do the same now to my young daughter.

If no one is correcting kids language then they will continue to use it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I've already been pulled up this morning by my ex for the way I speak, I may not be the most fluent in some words of the English language but I have great boobs

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington


"I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it to make it almost inintelligible."

blocked by everyone in wigan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In today's language??

It seems more & more people are saying fink instead of think and fanks instead of thanks etc.

Personally think it sounds awful.

Btw. This is not a rant, just an observation "

Personally we don't really have an opinion on this , it's down to the area and environment one is raised in .

Since it seems to be more the norm now , we don't really notice it .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always been like that. I was an offender of it when I was younger but thankfully I had parents who would correct me on my language, and I do the same now to my young daughter.

If no one is correcting kids language then they will continue to use it."

I pull my kids up on it too (yet I was raised the 'fink' way)

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts


"I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it

to make it almost inintelligible."

So, the word "finkin" would score well in scrabble then

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

I hope not.

But language is always evolving.

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By *lashheartMan
over a year ago

shrewsbury


"Well I've already been pulled up this morning by my ex for the way I speak, I may not be the most fluent in some words of the English language but I have great boobs "

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it to make it almost inintelligible.

blocked by everyone in wigan "

Me? what do you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thuck knows!

I'll have to fink about it

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I hope not.

But language is always evolving. "

You mean 'creoving'

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington


"I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it to make it almost inintelligible.

blocked by everyone in wigan

Me? what do you mean? "

hallod be tha nom is not weird to 300000 wiganers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Th has always been F where I'm from. I don't like people who over-enunciate their esses. They sound false.

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

I don't think it's a new thing - I work with a guy that does this; he's in his 50s, went to Oxford University and comes from a posh family.

It drives me mad by the way!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's pure laziness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We don't pronounce our tees either. We drop the tuh sound for a eh sound at the end of some words i.e. Eat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is not an accent thing it's a laziness thing. You can have a strong accent and still pronounce words correctly.

I would never employ anyone who pronounced think as fink or the equivalent.

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol


"Th has always been F where I'm from. I don't like people who over-enunciate their esses. They sound false."

Tissyou rather than tishoo is a linguistic bugbear of mine. Aargh!

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I always prefer my local slang of Ta, to thanks.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

In addition to the above people have started adding s to the end of words where it's not required.

I.E. I need some moneys or a cup of coffees... Drives me mad...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to use the American way of saying schedule rather than the English way as I think I sound pissed saying it the English way

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

I can't hear the difference.

Free and three sound the same to me and I apparently say them the same too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This was something I really had to get used to when we moved here. I had never heard people pronounce "th" as "f" before. It makes it hard for me to understand sometimes.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even the queen can't pronounce 'ouse' properly, - she calls it 'hice' innit!

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall


"Try reading some Chaucer "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it to make it almost inintelligible."

I didn't realise that the Tudors were Geordies.

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol


"I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it to make it almost inintelligible.

I didn't realise that the Tudors were Geordies. "

Apparently if you want to hear Shakespeare sounding the way it would have done when written you're better off hearing an American recite it. Over in England we got more generally rounded vowels over the years, started contracting our words and lost the craze for a slightly nasal pronunciation that was in vogue at the time but the early English settlers to the States kept it and incorporated it into their own distinct accent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it to make it almost inintelligible.

I didn't realise that the Tudors were Geordies.

Apparently if you want to hear Shakespeare sounding the way it would have done when written you're better off hearing an American recite it. Over in England we got more generally rounded vowels over the years, started contracting our words and lost the craze for a slightly nasal pronunciation that was in vogue at the time but the early English settlers to the States kept it and incorporated it into their own distinct accent."

Americans as Shakespearean, you say? Well, now, that's a first.

-Courtney

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol


"I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it to make it almost inintelligible.

I didn't realise that the Tudors were Geordies.

Apparently if you want to hear Shakespeare sounding the way it would have done when written you're better off hearing an American recite it. Over in England we got more generally rounded vowels over the years, started contracting our words and lost the craze for a slightly nasal pronunciation that was in vogue at the time but the early English settlers to the States kept it and incorporated it into their own distinct accent.

Americans as Shakespearean, you say? Well, now, that's a first.

-Courtney"

Yep. Next time someone asks you if you have an American accent just tell them it's Elizabethan, forsooth!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope not.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"In today's language??

It seems more & more people are saying fink instead of think and fanks instead of thanks etc.

Personally think it sounds awful.

Btw. This is not a rant, just an observation "
should come up here

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

the only time I struggle with it it "three" and "free" that does cause genuine misunderstanding.

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By *arkstaffsMan
over a year ago

Rugeley

I've noticed the word 'with' being replaced by 'wiv'. It goes through me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a slight lisp thanks to being partially deaf. I have awful trouble singing Faith by George Michael.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Th has always been F where I'm from. I don't like people who over-enunciate their esses. They sound false.

Tissyou rather than tishoo is a linguistic bugbear of mine. Aargh!"

And yessssss. You're not a fucking snake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've noticed the word 'with' being replaced by 'wiv'. It goes through me!"

I may not pronounce some words correctly but this really gets my goat!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not laziness,it's how everyone in my area who originates from London talks. We don't pronounce our aitches either a horse is an orse. We can use them when needed,our telephone and talking to people we are trying to impress speech isn't the same,but when speaking to each other we talk fast,drop aitches,deaden tees and replace th with f. I'd never pull anyone up who says roight instead of right so I don't expect to be pulled on saying fink instead of think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not an accent thing it's a laziness thing. You can have a strong accent and still pronounce words correctly.

I would never employ anyone who pronounced think as fink or the equivalent."

Somefink is one of my hates

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In today's language??

It seems more & more people are saying fink instead of think and fanks instead of thanks etc.

Personally think it sounds awful.

Btw. This is not a rant, just an observation "

go on have a rant pretty please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not an accent thing it's a laziness thing. You can have a strong accent and still pronounce words correctly.

I would never employ anyone who pronounced think as fink or the equivalent.

Somefink is one of my hates"

I must admit that people saying ink instead of ing does grate on me,along with whiney voices. Whiney voices can be any accent,region or dialect though.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"In today's language??

It seems more & more people are saying fink instead of think and fanks instead of thanks etc.

Personally think it sounds awful.

Btw. This is not a rant, just an observation "

You mean you Fink it sounds awthul.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English.

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By *ola.Woman
over a year ago

Just where I need to be.

I am always being pulled up by my mum for using f instead of th. It's where you place your tongue. Other than that I speak proper

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my accent changes back n forth, from rough glaswegian to slightly posher glaswegian..depends on my environment, I havent really any problems with various levels of communication..sorta how I type, its never grammatically perfect...because I dont need it to be..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English. "

Why not? I have an accent but I don't introduce new letters that aren't there or pronounce existing ones completely wrong. It's not about posh or class.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I have a dreadful habit of saying 'yeah' instead of 'yes' and 'nah' instead of 'no'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English.

Why not? I have an accent but I don't introduce new letters that aren't there or pronounce existing ones completely wrong. It's not about posh or class. "

Because we come from different environments. Class does have a lot to do with it along with parentage and where you were educated. If a child is surrounded by people who say fink instead of think it will speak that way. Only as it gets older will it realise that people look down upon them for not speaking correctly. Other parts of the country drop letters; dint instead of didn't. Why Londoners say f inside of th I have no idea,but that's how we learn. The ones who don't need to change don't,those of us who do,do. I worked with students teaching them to read,they still said f in conversation although they said th when reading out loud.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a dreadful habit of saying 'yeah' instead of 'yes' and 'nah' instead of 'no'.

"

Tsk tsk. You've been mixing with too many commoners

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English.

Why not? I have an accent but I don't introduce new letters that aren't there or pronounce existing ones completely wrong. It's not about posh or class.

Because we come from different environments. Class does have a lot to do with it along with parentage and where you were educated. If a child is surrounded by people who say fink instead of think it will speak that way. Only as it gets older will it realise that people look down upon them for not speaking correctly. Other parts of the country drop letters; dint instead of didn't. Why Londoners say f inside of th I have no idea,but that's how we learn. The ones who don't need to change don't,those of us who do,do. I worked with students teaching them to read,they still said f in conversation although they said th when reading out loud. "

People are doing their kids a massive disservice for the rest of their lives if they don't teach them to pronounce words correctly or about when it's appropriate and when it isn't appropriate to use slang. It's not about class or money it's about whether you want them to have a successful life or not. And wiv fink dint is all going to hinder them, that's the way of the world.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Lots of people from Hampshire would drop the "H" in the county name....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English.

Why not? I have an accent but I don't introduce new letters that aren't there or pronounce existing ones completely wrong. It's not about posh or class.

Because we come from different environments. Class does have a lot to do with it along with parentage and where you were educated. If a child is surrounded by people who say fink instead of think it will speak that way. Only as it gets older will it realise that people look down upon them for not speaking correctly. Other parts of the country drop letters; dint instead of didn't. Why Londoners say f inside of th I have no idea,but that's how we learn. The ones who don't need to change don't,those of us who do,do. I worked with students teaching them to read,they still said f in conversation although they said th when reading out loud.

People are doing their kids a massive disservice for the rest of their lives if they don't teach them to pronounce words correctly or about when it's appropriate and when it isn't appropriate to use slang. It's not about class or money it's about whether you want them to have a successful life or not. And wiv fink dint is all going to hinder them, that's the way of the world."

The ones who will do well in life know when and where to use your correct English. It hasn't done my brother any disservice,my parents not giving is elocution lessons. He's still managed to become a Director of an engineering company and lives in a very expensive house. Speaking correctly won't make a chimney sweep a lawyer.

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains


"I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it to make it almost inintelligible.

blocked by everyone in wigan

Me? what do you mean?

hallod be tha nom is not weird to 300000 wiganers "

Nowt wrong wi wiginers!

I catch myself say fank you even though I don't want to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't think much of a person who was swayed by an accent or how someone spoke. It's what they say,not how they say it that is important to me. I've heard people spouting all manner of 5 syllable words,in Queen's English, and say nothing of substance.

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By *ola.Woman
over a year ago

Just where I need to be.


"Lots of people from Hampshire would drop the "H" in the county name...."

I don't . Actually I do agree with Ruby that not pronouncing words can be due to laziness. If I'm tired my words do become more mispronounced. Lucky for me that I use sign language in my job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English.

Why not? I have an accent but I don't introduce new letters that aren't there or pronounce existing ones completely wrong. It's not about posh or class.

Because we come from different environments. Class does have a lot to do with it along with parentage and where you were educated. If a child is surrounded by people who say fink instead of think it will speak that way. Only as it gets older will it realise that people look down upon them for not speaking correctly. Other parts of the country drop letters; dint instead of didn't. Why Londoners say f inside of th I have no idea,but that's how we learn. The ones who don't need to change don't,those of us who do,do. I worked with students teaching them to read,they still said f in conversation although they said th when reading out loud.

People are doing their kids a massive disservice for the rest of their lives if they don't teach them to pronounce words correctly or about when it's appropriate and when it isn't appropriate to use slang. It's not about class or money it's about whether you want them to have a successful life or not. And wiv fink dint is all going to hinder them, that's the way of the world.

The ones who will do well in life know when and where to use your correct English. It hasn't done my brother any disservice,my parents not giving is elocution lessons. He's still managed to become a Director of an engineering company and lives in a very expensive house. Speaking correctly won't make a chimney sweep a lawyer. "

Fair enough. I just think it's important to give the best impression of yourself. How you communicate is a huge part of that. I think certain habits of speaking make people sound stupid. Other people will disagree and that's fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am always being pulled up by my mum for using f instead of th. It's where you place your tongue. Other than that I speak proper "

yes, there's nothing worse than a misplaced tongue!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English.

Why not? I have an accent but I don't introduce new letters that aren't there or pronounce existing ones completely wrong. It's not about posh or class.

Because we come from different environments. Class does have a lot to do with it along with parentage and where you were educated. If a child is surrounded by people who say fink instead of think it will speak that way. Only as it gets older will it realise that people look down upon them for not speaking correctly. Other parts of the country drop letters; dint instead of didn't. Why Londoners say f inside of th I have no idea,but that's how we learn. The ones who don't need to change don't,those of us who do,do. I worked with students teaching them to read,they still said f in conversation although they said th when reading out loud.

People are doing their kids a massive disservice for the rest of their lives if they don't teach them to pronounce words correctly or about when it's appropriate and when it isn't appropriate to use slang. It's not about class or money it's about whether you want them to have a successful life or not. And wiv fink dint is all going to hinder them, that's the way of the world.

The ones who will do well in life know when and where to use your correct English. It hasn't done my brother any disservice,my parents not giving is elocution lessons. He's still managed to become a Director of an engineering company and lives in a very expensive house. Speaking correctly won't make a chimney sweep a lawyer.

Fair enough. I just think it's important to give the best impression of yourself. How you communicate is a huge part of that. I think certain habits of speaking make people sound stupid. Other people will disagree and that's fine. "

Anyone can sound stupid,even people who speak "correctly"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English.

Why not? I have an accent but I don't introduce new letters that aren't there or pronounce existing ones completely wrong. It's not about posh or class.

Because we come from different environments. Class does have a lot to do with it along with parentage and where you were educated. If a child is surrounded by people who say fink instead of think it will speak that way. Only as it gets older will it realise that people look down upon them for not speaking correctly. Other parts of the country drop letters; dint instead of didn't. Why Londoners say f inside of th I have no idea,but that's how we learn. The ones who don't need to change don't,those of us who do,do. I worked with students teaching them to read,they still said f in conversation although they said th when reading out loud.

People are doing their kids a massive disservice for the rest of their lives if they don't teach them to pronounce words correctly or about when it's appropriate and when it isn't appropriate to use slang. It's not about class or money it's about whether you want them to have a successful life or not. And wiv fink dint is all going to hinder them, that's the way of the world.

The ones who will do well in life know when and where to use your correct English. It hasn't done my brother any disservice,my parents not giving is elocution lessons. He's still managed to become a Director of an engineering company and lives in a very expensive house. Speaking correctly won't make a chimney sweep a lawyer.

Fair enough. I just think it's important to give the best impression of yourself. How you communicate is a huge part of that. I think certain habits of speaking make people sound stupid. Other people will disagree and that's fine. "

I'd have to agree with certain habits of speaking makes people sound stupid to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English.

Why not? I have an accent but I don't introduce new letters that aren't there or pronounce existing ones completely wrong. It's not about posh or class.

Because we come from different environments. Class does have a lot to do with it along with parentage and where you were educated. If a child is surrounded by people who say fink instead of think it will speak that way. Only as it gets older will it realise that people look down upon them for not speaking correctly. Other parts of the country drop letters; dint instead of didn't. Why Londoners say f inside of th I have no idea,but that's how we learn. The ones who don't need to change don't,those of us who do,do. I worked with students teaching them to read,they still said f in conversation although they said th when reading out loud.

People are doing their kids a massive disservice for the rest of their lives if they don't teach them to pronounce words correctly or about when it's appropriate and when it isn't appropriate to use slang. It's not about class or money it's about whether you want them to have a successful life or not. And wiv fink dint is all going to hinder them, that's the way of the world.

The ones who will do well in life know when and where to use your correct English. It hasn't done my brother any disservice,my parents not giving is elocution lessons. He's still managed to become a Director of an engineering company and lives in a very expensive house. Speaking correctly won't make a chimney sweep a lawyer.

Fair enough. I just think it's important to give the best impression of yourself. How you communicate is a huge part of that. I think certain habits of speaking make people sound stupid. Other people will disagree and that's fine.

Anyone can sound stupid,even people who speak "correctly""

I completely agree. You said above you didn't like whiney voices. So you dislike the way some people choose to speak too, just for a different reason to me.

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over a year ago


"I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English.

Why not? I have an accent but I don't introduce new letters that aren't there or pronounce existing ones completely wrong. It's not about posh or class.

Because we come from different environments. Class does have a lot to do with it along with parentage and where you were educated. If a child is surrounded by people who say fink instead of think it will speak that way. Only as it gets older will it realise that people look down upon them for not speaking correctly. Other parts of the country drop letters; dint instead of didn't. Why Londoners say f inside of th I have no idea,but that's how we learn. The ones who don't need to change don't,those of us who do,do. I worked with students teaching them to read,they still said f in conversation although they said th when reading out loud.

People are doing their kids a massive disservice for the rest of their lives if they don't teach them to pronounce words correctly or about when it's appropriate and when it isn't appropriate to use slang. It's not about class or money it's about whether you want them to have a successful life or not. And wiv fink dint is all going to hinder them, that's the way of the world.

The ones who will do well in life know when and where to use your correct English. It hasn't done my brother any disservice,my parents not giving is elocution lessons. He's still managed to become a Director of an engineering company and lives in a very expensive house. Speaking correctly won't make a chimney sweep a lawyer.

Fair enough. I just think it's important to give the best impression of yourself. How you communicate is a huge part of that. I think certain habits of speaking make people sound stupid. Other people will disagree and that's fine.

I'd have to agree with certain habits of speaking makes people sound stupid to me."

I agree. I used to pronounce "ask" as "axe." It is a very Brooklyn thing to do. I was told over and over again that I sounded "uneducated." I figured that it didn't matter and refused to change. But it came up in a professional setting and it made me realize that it doesn't matter if what is coming out of my mouth is the smartest thing ever because people hear "axe" think "uneducated, poor, Brooklyn" and dismiss me immediately. People do themselves a disservice by not speaking correctly.

-Courtney

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By *ola.Woman
over a year ago

Just where I need to be.


"I am always being pulled up by my mum for using f instead of th. It's where you place your tongue. Other than that I speak proper

yes, there's nothing worse than a misplaced tongue! "

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over a year ago


"I worked with a woman who would pronounce something as sunnin in her faux posh accent,and pronounced minimise as miminise. I also knew a woman who would put aitches in front of words beginning with A; awful would be hawful. We can't all speak perfect Queen's English.

Why not? I have an accent but I don't introduce new letters that aren't there or pronounce existing ones completely wrong. It's not about posh or class.

Because we come from different environments. Class does have a lot to do with it along with parentage and where you were educated. If a child is surrounded by people who say fink instead of think it will speak that way. Only as it gets older will it realise that people look down upon them for not speaking correctly. Other parts of the country drop letters; dint instead of didn't. Why Londoners say f inside of th I have no idea,but that's how we learn. The ones who don't need to change don't,those of us who do,do. I worked with students teaching them to read,they still said f in conversation although they said th when reading out loud.

People are doing their kids a massive disservice for the rest of their lives if they don't teach them to pronounce words correctly or about when it's appropriate and when it isn't appropriate to use slang. It's not about class or money it's about whether you want them to have a successful life or not. And wiv fink dint is all going to hinder them, that's the way of the world.

The ones who will do well in life know when and where to use your correct English. It hasn't done my brother any disservice,my parents not giving is elocution lessons. He's still managed to become a Director of an engineering company and lives in a very expensive house. Speaking correctly won't make a chimney sweep a lawyer.

Fair enough. I just think it's important to give the best impression of yourself. How you communicate is a huge part of that. I think certain habits of speaking make people sound stupid. Other people will disagree and that's fine.

Anyone can sound stupid,even people who speak "correctly"

I completely agree. You said above you didn't like whiney voices. So you dislike the way some people choose to speak too, just for a different reason to me. "

I wouldn't refuse to employ someone because of their whiney voice. I would however,if they were going to be dealing with the public or speaking to clients via the phone and said fink instead of think,ask them if they had a telephone voice they could use. Everyone has a telephone voice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an aside,it's children not kids. Kids are baby goats

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

Y is the new th or should that be olde.

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over a year ago


"As an aside,it's children not kids. Kids are baby goats "

You're right. My mother would be appalled with me for that one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In today's language??

It seems more & more people are saying fink instead of think and fanks instead of thanks etc.

Personally think it sounds awful.

Btw. This is not a rant, just an observation "

Correct - and we are becoming a pretty dumb nation pretty quickly now - thanks largely to "leftie" type schooling ideas in decades past. Another real bugbear is when people write, "I should of gone there" instead of "I should have gone there" etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Y is the new th or should that be olde."

It was never pronounced 'y' though. The ye olde tea shoppe thing came from the fact that 'the' could be written using a letter called thorn, which when written in the Tudor period looked a bit like a y. Fun fact of the day

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over a year ago


"As an aside,it's children not kids. Kids are baby goats

You're right. My mother would be appalled with me for that one. "

It was my mother who would say it to me.

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over a year ago


"Y is the new th or should that be olde.

It was never pronounced 'y' though. The ye olde tea shoppe thing came from the fact that 'the' could be written using a letter called thorn, which when written in the Tudor period looked a bit like a y. Fun fact of the day "

Correct - th and its pronunciation is a relatively new linguistic development - Ye was pronounced th in the old days

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts


"In today's language??

It seems more & more people are saying fink instead of think and fanks instead of thanks etc.

Personally think it sounds awful.

Btw. This is not a rant, just an observation

Correct - and we are becoming a pretty dumb nation pretty quickly now - thanks largely to "leftie" type schooling ideas in decades past. Another real bugbear is when people write, "I should of gone there" instead of "I should have gone there" etc.

"

Good grief, do not get me started on the use of "of" instead of "have"

and also the extra S on the end of words too, are "yous" going to the shop etc, arrrgggh

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By *rnyashellcplCouple
over a year ago

Haydock

Thier front teeth might be bigger than ours lol

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over a year ago


"In today's language??

It seems more & more people are saying fink instead of think and fanks instead of thanks etc.

Personally think it sounds awful.

Btw. This is not a rant, just an observation "

I agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In today's language??

It seems more & more people are saying fink instead of think and fanks instead of thanks etc.

Personally think it sounds awful.

Btw. This is not a rant, just an observation

Correct - and we are becoming a pretty dumb nation pretty quickly now - thanks largely to "leftie" type schooling ideas in decades past. Another real bugbear is when people write, "I should of gone there" instead of "I should have gone there" etc.

Good grief, do not get me started on the use of "of" instead of "have"

and also the extra S on the end of words too, are "yous" going to the shop etc, arrrgggh"

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I prefer to be able to understand what I hear as easily as possible, without distractions and misinterpretations. I'd find it tedious if someone puts little emphasis upon their pronunciation - which is often what it is. I'm ok with people having low levels of literacy or smaller vocabularies, as we can make ourselves understood.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I heard a guy called Jon Smiff say this too.

Seriously, it's just accents and homogenisation of language. It's always developing. It's interesting.

Apparently, we would not have been able to understand how Tudor people spoke. I saw a programme once and when we say 'Hallowed be thy name' the Tudors would have said 'Hallod be tha nom'. But with a really weird way of saying it to make it almost inintelligible."

So that's who the folk of Yorkshire descended from?

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