FabSwingers.com forum: Honest

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Are you too honest for you're own good?

Whether it be with friends/family or a partner.

Do you often stop yourself from saying something, or think fuck it, I will say it anyway.

Have a lovely weekend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bite my tongue on here all too regular with some things I read I've perfected the art of

But to people who know me I say what I mean and mean what I say.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

No such thing as too honest in my opinion. It is what it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am.far to much of a diplomat.

There are time though when I should tell people how I feel or if they are making me glum .

Though to be honest I try not to over think these day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am.far to much of a diplomat.

There are time though when I should tell people how I feel or if they are making me glum .

Though to be honest I try not to over think these day

My grandad said "diplomacy gets you out of what tact would have kept you out of."

Wise words grandad.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I bite my tongue on here all too regular with some things I read I've perfected the art of

But to people who know me I say what I mean and mean what I say."

I've opened up a bit more on the forum compa_ed to when I first started using them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No such thing as too honest in my opinion. It is what it is."

I generally think this too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm always honest.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I am.far to much of a diplomat.

There are time though when I should tell people how I feel or if they are making me glum .

Though to be honest I try not to over think these day

I'm a sucker for over thinking

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

There is a difference between being honest and being rude. Just because you may think something doesn't mean you need to say it.

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By *iss InnocenceWoman
over a year ago

Coventry/Bristol

Yep my friends allways tell me am to honest and open about stuff

But thAts Jst ME

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By *aucy tiggerWoman
over a year ago

Back where I belong

Honest, if not too honest - that's me and I appreciate honesty in return. At least everybody knows where they stand.

I do struggle with tact and diplomacy, but i try xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There is a difference between being honest and being rude. Just because you may think something doesn't mean you need to say it.

Totally agree

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Honest, if not too honest - that's me and I appreciate honesty in return. At least everybody knows where they stand.

I do struggle with tact and diplomacy, but i try xxx"

Me too sometimes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you too honest for you're own good?

Whether it be with friends/family or a partner.

Do you often stop yourself from saying something, or think fuck it, I will say it anyway.

Have a lovely weekend

I say what I have to say and take the consequences no point fannying around the Bush, say it and move on

As someone said on here a while ago, I'd rather be a honest arsehole than a liar

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Oh Lord I get into so much trouble sometimes for speaking what I perceive as the truth. I prefer people to be honest to me so don't understand why others don't want to hear it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm told I'm a bit too honest sometimes!! It's not a bad quality is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is a difference between being honest and being rude. Just because you may think something doesn't mean you need to say it.

I was just going to say something similar

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think there's a difference between truth and brutal truth, a truth that hurts is just as bad as a lie when tact could save feelings. I don't holdy tongue when things need to be said but I wouldn't be rude if there's another way. I often find that people dealing hard truths find rudeness in others

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm told I'm a bit too honest sometimes!! It's not a bad quality is it?"

Depends if it spills into rudeness. Not directed at you, but I've met some right evil cows who smile and are "honest".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm told I'm a bit too honest sometimes!! It's not a bad quality is it?

Depends if it spills into rudeness. Not directed at you, but I've met some right evil cows who smile and are "honest". "

I guess your right, then maybe I'm not too honest then as I would hate intentionally to be rude to someone!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm told I'm a bit too honest sometimes!! It's not a bad quality is it?

Depends if it spills into rudeness. Not directed at you, but I've met some right evil cows who smile and are "honest".

I guess your right, then maybe I'm not too honest then as I would hate intentionally to be rude to someone!!"

No, I've never seen that from you!

Huge difference between the tactless bitchy "honesty" which is "too honest" and being too honest by admitting things you probably shouldn't because they are daft or a bit embarrassing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm told I'm a bit too honest sometimes!! It's not a bad quality is it?

Depends if it spills into rudeness. Not directed at you, but I've met some right evil cows who smile and are "honest".

I guess your right, then maybe I'm not too honest then as I would hate intentionally to be rude to someone!!

No, I've never seen that from you!

Huge difference between the tactless bitchy "honesty" which is "too honest" and being too honest by admitting things you probably shouldn't because they are daft or a bit embarrassing

I know I probably embarrass myself on here a bit sometimes,(I'm aware we aren't actually talking about me here) but I do like to speak openly abou things in my life rather than speak the 'Facebook era' truth where everything is going great and smile like an idiot!

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By *sla69Woman
over a year ago

coventry/Leicestershire border

Im to honest for my own good i think...sometimes the mouth speaks before the brain has time to kick into gear and gets me in trouble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I'm not too honest for my own good. I'm not one of these people that thinks everyone needs me to set them straight. I like to live my life with the least amount of hassle and conflict to me. If that means I'm not always brutally honest and have to bite my tongue then that suits me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you too honest for you're own good?

Whether it be with friends/family or a partner.

Do you often stop yourself from saying something, or think fuck it, I will say it anyway.

Have a lovely weekend

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I say it how it is but never mean to upset ever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm told I'm a bit too honest sometimes!! It's not a bad quality is it?

Depends if it spills into rudeness. Not directed at you, but I've met some right evil cows who smile and are "honest".

I guess your right, then maybe I'm not too honest then as I would hate intentionally to be rude to someone!!

No, I've never seen that from you!

Huge difference between the tactless bitchy "honesty" which is "too honest" and being too honest by admitting things you probably shouldn't because they are daft or a bit embarrassing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I could do with a better filter between my brain and my mouth at times, I confess, but most find my honesty refreshing. I do try not to be cruel with it though x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My profile is honest. I tend to be very honest about myself when chatting privately to people but on the forums if I was always honest, I'd be permanently on the naughty step

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My uncle used to say to me "engage brain before putting mouth into gear,"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I could do with a better filter between my brain and my mouth at times, I confess, but most find my honesty refreshing. I do try not to be cruel with it though x"

Theres a difference between honesty and brutality. Being honest because you don't want to play games is a million miles away from wanting to hurt

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"There is a difference between being honest and being rude. Just because you may think something doesn't mean you need to say it.

I agree.

Somebody once said to me "the truth never hurt nobody" he was wrong but I held back from telling him the truth about his grammar and the use of double negatives

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I used to work with a person who in their words, 'Kept it real and told it like it was'. The problem was it was just her opinion and she acted like she had a licence to offend everyone.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I used to work with a person who in their words, 'Kept it real and told it like it was'. The problem was it was just her opinion and she acted like she had a licence to offend everyone.

I agree with this too. Some people use their honesty like a weapon.

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

I'm a very honest person. As I've got older I've realised it's much better to be totally honest where possible. But I've also learnt that you have to use a little tact and diplomacy at times. On here for example, I have to bite my tongue sometimes otherwise I'd be getting banned on a regular basis!

I've found that if I'm not honest when I should be it makes me a little anxious, because I know I'm not being true to myself. And if I'm not being me then I have a problem. Speaking my mind as much as possible helps alleviate my anxieties. In other words being honest helps my whole mental state.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm a very honest person. As I've got older I've realised it's much better to be totally honest where possible. But I've also learnt that you have to use a little tact and diplomacy at times. On here for example, I have to bite my tongue sometimes otherwise I'd be getting banned on a regular basis!

This

when I'm being honest it's not for being nasty.

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By *eddABCMan
over a year ago

Stretham Hill Greater London

"No such thing as too honest in my opinion. It is what it is."

That's the best thing I read this morning. A lot of people can't handle the truth or even be truthful these days.

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

This

when I'm being honest it's not for being nasty. "

As long as you're being true to yourself and you can live with that, then that's all that matters. You can't please all the people all the time. Not everyone can take what you tell them. That's their problem not your problem necessarily. Some may see it as you being nasty because they're just not in a position to handle the truth.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This

when I'm being honest it's not for being nasty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lit of people on here big themselves up and probably say things they can't back up or deny in real life.

I bite my tongue on quite a few on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lit of people on here big themselves up and probably say things they can't back up or deny in real life.

I bite my tongue on quite a few on here."

if i was completely truthful on here I'd be on a lifetime ban by now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lit of people on here big themselves up and probably say things they can't back up or deny in real life.

I bite my tongue on quite a few on here.

if i was completely truthful on here I'd be on a lifetime ban by now

So would i

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lit of people on here big themselves up and probably say things they can't back up or deny in real life.

I bite my tongue on quite a few on here."

I couldn't be bothe_ed to keep up the pretence, remembering what lies I'd told to different people so on here what you see is what you get as far as I'm concerned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not honest about anything, at work, with friends. I avoid confrontation at all costs and lie through me teeth with a smile on my face.

Honestly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lit of people on here big themselves up and probably say things they can't back up or deny in real life.

I bite my tongue on quite a few on here.

I couldn't be bothe_ed to keep up the pretence, remembering what lies I'd told to different people so on here what you see is what you get as far as I'm concerned."

It's not so much keeping up a pretence. I'm not pretending to be something I'm not....just not always conveying what i really think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lit of people on here big themselves up and probably say things they can't back up or deny in real life.

I bite my tongue on quite a few on here.

I couldn't be bothe_ed to keep up the pretence, remembering what lies I'd told to different people so on here what you see is what you get as far as I'm concerned.

It's not so much keeping up a pretence. I'm not pretending to be something I'm not....just not always conveying what i really think

I agree! I meant my profile is very honest.

I bite my tongue a lot on the forums though because I'd join you in that lifetime ban if I didn't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hate people who make their entire selling point in life that they "tell it like it is". No, you don't, you're just a rude tosser. Politeness trumps honesty in my day to day life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you too honest for you're own good?

Whether it be with friends/family or a partner.

Do you often stop yourself from saying something, or think fuck it, I will say it anyway.

Have a lovely weekend

I lie about everything!

I'm compulsive!

Actually that's a bit too honest!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, far too honest.

I once thought it was something people close to me would appreciate but soon found out it's better to keep your opinions to yourself in most cases.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hate people who make their entire selling point in life that they "tell it like it is". No, you don't, you're just a rude tosser. Politeness trumps honesty in my day to day life. "
I agree with this the truth hurts wether you agree or not sometimes what you don't know doesn't hurt you xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hate people who make their entire selling point in life that they "tell it like it is". No, you don't, you're just a rude tosser. Politeness trumps honesty in my day to day life. "

Made me giggle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, far too honest.

I once thought it was something people close to me would appreciate but soon found out it's better to keep your opinions to yourself in most cases."

Depends on whether your opinions are the actual truth or just your perception of the truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, far too honest.

I once thought it was something people close to me would appreciate but soon found out it's better to keep your opinions to yourself in most cases.

Depends on whether your opinions are the actual truth or just your perception of the truth. "
nice nails

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, far too honest.

I once thought it was something people close to me would appreciate but soon found out it's better to keep your opinions to yourself in most cases.

Depends on whether your opinions are the actual truth or just your perception of the truth. nice nails

Shurrup you

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

I am too honest. Can't lie to save my life.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Speak the truth in love"

I prefer to be true to myself, but honesty should never mean unkindness in my opinion.

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

"I hate people who make their entire selling point in life that they "tell it like it is". No, you don't, you're just a rude tosser. Politeness trumps honesty in my day to day life. "

Yes, people who 'tell it like it is' are often total arseholes because often what they are telling you is utter bollocks. Those people are often very annoying. You should always be polite where possible but there comes a point with some people where being polite is no longer an option.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always tell the truth but I do try and be tactful .However at times I do feel the need to bite my tongue .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No such thing as too honest in my opinion. It is what it is."

Many bitchy, untruthful words are said under the guise of being 'honest' & 'saying it how it is'.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It seems everyone on here is very honest.... I smell bullshit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If honesty means telling someone something that would hurt there feelings I would rather be dishonest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It seems everyone on here is very honest.... I smell bullshit! "

It's what makes me chuckle so much about these honesty threads. ..I've never encounte_ed such a virtuous group of people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It seems everyone on here is very honest.... I smell bullshit!

It's what makes me chuckle so much about these honesty threads. ..I've never encounte_ed such a virtuous group of people

Exactly! Never trust someone that goes on about how honest they are!

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"It seems everyone on here is very honest.... I smell bullshit!

It's what makes me chuckle so much about these honesty threads. ..I've never encounte_ed such a virtuous group of people

You need a good memory to be a decent liar. My memory is shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It seems everyone on here is very honest.... I smell bullshit!

It's what makes me chuckle so much about these honesty threads. ..I've never encounte_ed such a virtuous group of people

You need a good memory to be a decent liar. My memory is shit."

Liar! You have the memory of an elephant!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you too honest for you're own good?

Whether it be with friends/family or a partner.

Do you often stop yourself from saying something, or think fuck it, I will say it anyway.

Have a lovely weekend

Have always been told that I should be more diplomatic when talking to people but my way is that if I have something to say, I will say it. Truth hurts some people but its life. Xx

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"It seems everyone on here is very honest.... I smell bullshit!

It's what makes me chuckle so much about these honesty threads. ..I've never encounte_ed such a virtuous group of people

You need a good memory to be a decent liar. My memory is shit.

Liar! You have the memory of an elephant!"

Do I? I must have forgotten.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It seems everyone on here is very honest.... I smell bullshit!

It's what makes me chuckle so much about these honesty threads. ..I've never encounte_ed such a virtuous group of people

You need a good memory to be a decent liar. My memory is shit.

Liar! You have the memory of an elephant!

Do I? I must have forgotten.

Good liars always pretend to be bad liars

Trust pinnochio on this!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"No such thing as too honest in my opinion. It is what it is."

Sometimes people confuse 'honesty' and 'tactless'

Sometimes it really is best to say nothing or even just a little than to paint a clear , harsh picture that hurts people.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I am.far to much of a diplomat.

There are time though when I should tell people how I feel or if they are making me glum .

Though to be honest I try not to over think these day

My grandad said "diplomacy gets you out of what tact would have kept you out of."

Wise words grandad.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

There a fine line between honest and ill-manne_ed.

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

I tend to speak as I find, but I do try to filter so I don't hurt people's feelings

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"There is a difference between being honest and being rude. Just because you may think something doesn't mean you need to say it.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"No such thing as too honest in my opinion. It is what it is.

That's the best thing I read this morning. A lot of people can't handle the truth or even be truthful these days. "

Whose truth ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Yep my friends allways tell me am to honest and open about stuff

But thAts Jst ME

Did they mean 'honest' or did they mean you just impart uneccessary information to people that don't want it at inappropriate times ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'm told I'm a bit too honest sometimes!! It's not a bad quality is it?

Depends if it spills into rudeness. Not directed at you, but I've met some right evil cows who smile and are "honest". "

Cow is such an unrude term. Were they men cows ?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I've found as I've gone along in life that honest people rarely need to tell you that they are, they just are. Honesty probably means different things to different people though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People don't like honesty.

People don't like liars.

Keep on Fab'ing Fab'ers!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I prefer silence to dishonesty.

I won't be drawn into pointless arguments and would rather withdraw than deal with buffoonery or fucktardedness.

You can't deal with crazy or stupid..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"It seems everyone on here is very honest.... I smell bullshit! "

of.... you missed out of.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Are you too honest for you're own good?

Whether it be with friends/family or a partner.

Do you often stop yourself from saying something, or think fuck it, I will say it anyway.

Have a lovely weekend

Have always been told that I should be more diplomatic when talking to people but my way is that if I have something to say, I will say it. Truth hurts some people but its life. Xx"

Well they say idiots fail to learn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Though I don't say it myself, others have often commented that I am 'the most honest person' they have ever met/experienced. I would never steal off anyone for example, which is good - but my honesty also extends to basically giving an honest opinion when asked. That sometimes does not go down well - but I just can't change - it's like something genetic in me - I cannot lie or 'bend things' just so I don't cause offence - it's a bloody nightmare to be honest! If someone asks me if they are 'fat' and they are - I tell them - and they then don't like it !!!

We live in very strange times in my opinion where honesty actually counts for very little. It starts at the top - if we have dishonest leaders - the human sheep follow suit.

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby

"I used to work with a person who in their words, 'Kept it real and told it like it was'. The problem was it was just her opinion and she acted like she had a licence to offend everyone.

I agree with this too. Some people use their honesty like a weapon."
perhaps Insecurity, how complex us humans are at times but again always Have been, not nice combinations at times, If you took the aggressive side out or unplesant side away from human beings it would leave part of our canvas blank and linear, no drive for any kind of stance against anything or anyone, evolution Developed us with the things we have to manage or handle situations, its how that Individual manages or handles The situation thats key and does not abuse it, easier for some and Impossible for others, some people might call that that is what makes us Unique, to me its a big flaw or downturn in human nature the biggest our species has, apart from this we are an amazeing species.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Though I don't say it myself, others have often commented that I am 'the most honest person' they have ever met/experienced. I would never steal off anyone for example, which is good - but my honesty also extends to basically giving an honest opinion when asked. That sometimes does not go down well - but I just can't change - it's like something genetic in me - I cannot lie or 'bend things' just so I don't cause offence - it's a bloody nightmare to be honest! If someone asks me if they are 'fat' and they are - I tell them - and they then don't like it !!!

We live in very strange times in my opinion where honesty actually counts for very little. It starts at the top - if we have dishonest leaders - the human sheep follow suit."

I'd judge my honesty by whether I stole or cheated too ... Not by whether I gave an in depth personal opinion. Which most seem to.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I value my word and my trust worthiness. I stick by them ( most of the time. )

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

A forumite mentioned bullying the other day.

I think 'too honest' can feed into that same sort of 'I don't care what I do/say' mentality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to work with a person who in their words, 'Kept it real and told it like it was'. The problem was it was just her opinion and she acted like she had a licence to offend everyone.

I agree with this too. Some people use their honesty like a weapon.perhaps Insecurity, how complex us humans are at times but again always Have been, not nice combinations at times, If you took the aggressive side out or unplesant side away from human beings it would leave part of our canvas blank and linear, no drive for any kind of stance against anything or anyone, evolution Developed us with the things we have to manage or handle situations, its how that Individual manages or handles The situation thats key and does not abuse it, easier for some and Impossible for others, some people might call that that is what makes us Unique, to me its a big flaw or downturn in human nature the biggest our species has, apart from this we are an amazeing species."

Amazing species ?! Can't agree with that one - as a SPECIES - we are generally abhorrent - greedy, destructive, selfish - there are obviously exceptions to the rule but this planet, in all honesty, would be far better off without human beings. Oh - and this species will kill the planet - amazing species indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A forumite mentioned bullying the other day.

I think 'too honest' can feed into that same sort of 'I don't care what I do/say' mentality."

what's "too honest" though ? Honest is honest - and absolutely nothing to do with bullying - which I hate. Trouble is we have generally become a nation of 'pussies' afraid to cause offence to anyone by saying anything remotely controversial. When I attend meetings at work, it's scary how everyone nowadays sounds exactly the same and says basically the same things - we have become brainwashed robots in many instances - mainly caused by the left wing liberalists

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"what's "too honest" though ? Honest is honest - and absolutely nothing to do with bullying - which I hate. Trouble is we have generally become a nation of 'pussies' afraid to cause offence to anyone by saying anything remotely controversial. When I attend meetings at work, it's scary how everyone nowadays sounds exactly the same and says basically the same things - we have become brainwashed robots in many instances - mainly caused by the left wing liberalists"

Couldn't agree more!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Speak for yourself

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I talk about honesty, I am talking about myself, I do wear my heart on my sleeve, I am a open book and I will tell you anything you want to know. It really bugged me at my old work, the rumour mill about my sex life was in over drive, so one day over a fag break in the garden with about ten of my colleagues I say there and I just came out with 'instead of talking about me and making stuff up, talk to me, ask me' this lead to a very uncomfortable few mintues, leading to a few people actually asking me questions which I answe_ed honestly and truthfully. It didn't stop the rumour mill about me of course but at least I knew I tried!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Uh oh, politics shit show incoming!

Down with Commie Corbyn!

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

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"A forumite mentioned bullying the other day.

I think 'too honest' can feed into that same sort of 'I don't care what I do/say' mentality.

what's "too honest" though ? "

That's for the person on the receiving end to judge.

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over a year ago

"A forumite mentioned bullying the other day.

I think 'too honest' can feed into that same sort of 'I don't care what I do/say' mentality.

what's "too honest" though ?

That's for the person on the receiving end to judge. "

No it's not surely? This is the problem - honest is just honest! If someone is offended by it - that basically can't be helped. Think you are getting confused with bigotry or prejudice. I`ve got a big nose - fact - honest - I don't like the fact I`ve got a big nose but I have - it's the truth and is incontrovertible.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We live in very strange times in my opinion where honesty actually counts for very little. It starts at the top - if we have dishonest leaders - the human sheep follow suit."

Exactly if someone asks my opinion whether it's... Does look nice on me? Does my bum look big in this? Etc .. I'm not going to lie as to not hurt their feelings.

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over a year ago

We live in very strange times in my opinion where honesty actually counts for very little. It starts at the top - if we have dishonest leaders - the human sheep follow suit.

Exactly if someone asks my opinion whether it's... Does look nice on me? Does my bum look big in this? Etc .. I'm not going to lie as to not hurt their feelings. "

I would!

I would lie my fucking arse off!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and one last point from me - I`m an Aquarian - an eminent Astrologist once told me that 'air signs' (Aquarians, Librans and Geminis) are amongst the most honest around (Virgos too apparently) - never trust a Scorpio she said - so there - explains everything (shit - I am going to be attacked for upsetting Scorpios with my honesty!

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

I am very honest. Most people aren't quite sure how to handle it as it seems quite a rare quality.... or I know the wrong people.

But I'm at the point where I no longer give a fuck, I'm me, take it or leave it.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

Honesty is used very often to ease your conscience.

It makes you feel better, cleaner...

But does it help the world and your fellow man?

Probably not!

Honesty and lies are tools to be used in equal measures, when the situation dictates either is correct.

I'm reminded of the line;

"You can't handle the truth!"

Well often and in the main people can't! Somebody has to be strong enough to lie, to prevent collective self loathing....

Never think;

Honesty = good

Dishonesty = bad

This is the way of the ignorant...

Which is far worse than either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't it funny that the people that admittedly lie in day to day life are probably being the most honest on this thread.

As a man, it wouldn't be wise to start an evening with being completely honest about how fat there dates arse looked before going out for dinner!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and one last point from me - I`m an Aquarian - an eminent Astrologist once told me that 'air signs' (Aquarians, Librans and Geminis) are amongst the most honest around (Virgos too apparently) - never trust a Scorpio she said - so there - explains everything (shit - I am going to be attacked for upsetting Scorpios with my honesty!

That's bullshit I'm Gemini and im a compulsive liar!

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over a year ago

"Isn't it funny that the people that admittedly lie in day to day life are probably being the most honest on this thread.

As a man, it wouldn't be wise to start an evening with being completely honest about how fat there dates arse looked before going out for dinner!

If my ass looks fat fucking tell me man!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never think;

Honesty = good

Dishonesty = bad

This is the way of the ignorant...

sorry cannot agree with this bit at all - but we all have our own opinions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I went to a funeral last week for a man who was a bit of an arsehole. But the eulogy spoke of how he brought light and fun to the lives of everyone he met. What would be the value of being "honest" in that situation?

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over a year ago

"Honesty is used very often to ease your conscience.

It makes you feel better, cleaner...

But does it help the world and your fellow man?

Probably not!

Honesty and lies are tools to be used in equal measures, when the situation dictates either is correct.

I'm reminded of the line;

"You can't handle the truth!"

Well often and in the main people can't! Somebody has to be strong enough to lie, to prevent collective self loathing....

Never think;

Honesty = good

Dishonesty = bad

This is the way of the ignorant...

Which is far worse than either. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We live in very strange times in my opinion where honesty actually counts for very little. It starts at the top - if we have dishonest leaders - the human sheep follow suit.

Exactly if someone asks my opinion whether it's... Does look nice on me? Does my bum look big in this? Etc .. I'm not going to lie as to not hurt their feelings.

I would!

I would lie my fucking arse off!!! "

Well, you didn't choose that username for nothing

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

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"I used to work with a person who in their words, 'Kept it real and told it like it was'. The problem was it was just her opinion and she acted like she had a licence to offend everyone.

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over a year ago

"Isn't it funny that the people that admittedly lie in day to day life are probably being the most honest on this thread.

As a man, it wouldn't be wise to start an evening with being completely honest about how fat there dates arse looked before going out for dinner!

Exactly....sometimes i like to be told i look beautiful even though i know it's not true

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

Never think;

Honesty = good

Dishonesty = bad

This is the way of the ignorant...

sorry cannot agree with this bit at all - but we all have our own opinions

It's the very reason why most of the population can't be trusted with the truth.

Sombodys brave dishonesty is allowing everyone else to be cowardly honest....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Honesty is used very often to ease your conscience.

It makes you feel better, cleaner...

But does it help the world and your fellow man?

Probably not!

Honesty and lies are tools to be used in equal measures, when the situation dictates either is correct.

I'm reminded of the line;

"You can't handle the truth!"

Well often and in the main people can't! Somebody has to be strong enough to lie, to prevent collective self loathing....

Never think;

Honesty = good

Dishonesty = bad

This is the way of the ignorant...

Which is far worse than either. "

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"I used to work with a person who in their words, 'Kept it real and told it like it was'. The problem was it was just her opinion and she acted like she had a licence to offend everyone.

Not so sure... We are survivors and our selfish streak will keep this species going far into the future.

Somewhere across the other side of the galaxy, there is another species doing the same.

One day we will run into one another & at that point your descendants will be thankful of our ugly nature.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it funny that the people that admittedly lie in day to day life are probably being the most honest on this thread.

As a man, it wouldn't be wise to start an evening with being completely honest about how fat there dates arse looked before going out for dinner!

Exactly....sometimes i like to be told i look beautiful even though i know it's not true"

I'm your man!

I will lie to you till the cows come home!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm very much the type to say it if I think it.

I try not to be hurtful and sometimes I bite my tongue but often its out before I can filter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it funny that the people that admittedly lie in day to day life are probably being the most honest on this thread.

As a man, it wouldn't be wise to start an evening with being completely honest about how fat there dates arse looked before going out for dinner!

Exactly....sometimes i like to be told i look beautiful even though i know it's not true

I'm your man!

I will lie to you till the cows come home! "

I'd prefer a truthful liar to a lying honest person any day of the week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you too honest for you're own good?

Whether it be with friends/family or a partner.

Do you often stop yourself from saying something, or think fuck it, I will say it anyway.

Yes all the time

Social filter is 0 and I like to te the truth which causes So much issue more trouble than it's worth

Have a lovely weekend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it funny that the people that admittedly lie in day to day life are probably being the most honest on this thread.

As a man, it wouldn't be wise to start an evening with being completely honest about how fat there dates arse looked before going out for dinner!

Exactly....sometimes i like to be told i look beautiful even though i know it's not true

I'm your man!

I will lie to you till the cows come home!

I'd prefer a truthful liar to a lying honest person any day of the week."

Ok I'm confused......

Let's fuck lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As with most things there is a balancing act, unless someone has problems with societal 'norms' ( for example some people with autism/aspergers who cannot judge or read others well, or occasionally sociopaths) everyone juggles truth and lies as part of everyday life in almost every dealing. As humans we judge potential interactions and act accordingly. We rarely speak what is on our mind, and we adjust answers to fit in with other people's sensibilities-as we rarely deal in absolutes.

A couple of examples could be:

Q. Does this make my arse look big?

A. Yes, like a sackful of ferrets OR Actually, the other one looks better.

Q. Was your meal ok, would you like anything else?

A. Everything was lovely thanks, can I see the desert menu OR It was average at best, can you suck my cock...

(Any man who says he has never thought that last one is probably lying)

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

"Isn't it funny that the people that admittedly lie in day to day life are probably being the most honest on this thread.

As a man, it wouldn't be wise to start an evening with being completely honest about how fat there dates arse looked before going out for dinner!

Exactly....sometimes i like to be told i look beautiful even though i know it's not true"

I have a child to do that

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By *edMan
over a year ago

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Sometimes, saying nothing can speak volumes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to work with a person who in their words, 'Kept it real and told it like it was'. The problem was it was just her opinion and she acted like she had a licence to offend everyone.

Not so sure... We are survivors and our selfish streak will keep this species going far into the future.

Somewhere across the other side of the galaxy, there is another species doing the same.

One day we will run into one another & at that point your descendants will be thankful of our ugly nature."

yes I suppose it depends on your definition of 'amazing' - I was coming from the angle of the poor elephant shot dead by a human hunter (aka coward) just because it's a 'trophy' or the beautiful gorilla shot dead so his hand can be chopped off and sold as an ashtray - or the animal killed and skinned so its fur can adorn some 'beautiful' woman - I could go on ad infinitum but I think you get it - never IMO would I call the human species amazing - more like disastrous - and if there is a God - have a good look at yourself in the mirror i.e. made in his image and all that - jeez - that was deep for a Sat afternoon

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Isn't it funny that the people that admittedly lie in day to day life are probably being the most honest on this thread.

As a man, it wouldn't be wise to start an evening with being completely honest about how fat there dates arse looked before going out for dinner!

If my ass looks fat fucking tell me man!!"

Why ? Would you go home and change your arse ?

There's no point to telling you your arse looks fat.

I might tell you that you would look better in a different style of clothes

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Isn't it funny that the people that admittedly lie in day to day life are probably being the most honest on this thread.

As a man, it wouldn't be wise to start an evening with being completely honest about how fat there dates arse looked before going out for dinner!

Exactly....sometimes i like to be told i look beautiful even though i know it's not true

I'm your man!

I will lie to you till the cows come home! "

Are you lying now ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never think;

Honesty = good

Dishonesty = bad

This is the way of the ignorant...

sorry cannot agree with this bit at all - but we all have our own opinions

It's the very reason why most of the population can't be trusted with the truth.

Sombodys brave dishonesty is allowing everyone else to be cowardly honest...."

I`m honest - but definitely no coward

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"I used to work with a person who in their words, 'Kept it real and told it like it was'. The problem was it was just her opinion and she acted like she had a licence to offend everyone.

Not so sure... We are survivors and our selfish streak will keep this species going far into the future.

Somewhere across the other side of the galaxy, there is another species doing the same.

One day we will run into one another & at that point your descendants will be thankful of our ugly nature.

I think far from disastrous! Look at all we have achieved in a short space of time...

Far more than every other species that lives or has ever lived on this planet.

We are on our way to mastering the laws of the universe & that is pretty amazing...

I get your point and I hate majestic creatures being murde_ed and butche_ed...

But someone has a family to feed, very few people are inherently evil, but the system we live in means we sometimes have to do bad things.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

Never think;

Honesty = good

Dishonesty = bad

This is the way of the ignorant...

sorry cannot agree with this bit at all - but we all have our own opinions

It's the very reason why most of the population can't be trusted with the truth.

Sombodys brave dishonesty is allowing everyone else to be cowardly honest....

I`m honest - but definitely no coward "

But could you tell the worst of lies to keep the peace?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it funny that the people that admittedly lie in day to day life are probably being the most honest on this thread.

As a man, it wouldn't be wise to start an evening with being completely honest about how fat there dates arse looked before going out for dinner!

Exactly....sometimes i like to be told i look beautiful even though i know it's not true

I'm your man!

I will lie to you till the cows come home!

Are you lying now ?"

I'm always lying!!! Have you not seen Pinocchio!?

Get with it grany!

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By *aucy tiggerWoman
over a year ago

Back where I belong

"Im to honest for my own good i think...sometimes the mouth speaks before the brain has time to kick into gear and gets me in trouble.

Oh god that's me to

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over a year ago

"Im to honest for my own good i think...sometimes the mouth speaks before the brain has time to kick into gear and gets me in trouble.

Oh god that's me to

Liar!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Honesty is good, but it does leave you vulnerable to abuse.

I guess that's why we have tact and why people have learned to be less honest. It will benefit them to do so. And if you're not harming someone else with not being honest then that's ok.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Honesty is good, but it does leave you vulnerable to abuse.

I guess that's why we have tact and why people have learned to be less honest. It will benefit them to do so. And if you're not harming someone else with not being honest then that's ok.

Made me think....

Imagine what a mess the world would be in without the ability to be dishonest?!

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over a year ago

"Honesty is good, but it does leave you vulnerable to abuse.

I guess that's why we have tact and why people have learned to be less honest. It will benefit them to do so. And if you're not harming someone else with not being honest then that's ok.

Made me think....

Imagine what a mess the world would be in without the ability to be dishonest?!"

I think the world would be fine, if everyone had to be honest.

You could be honest and no-one could abuse that.

People could give their opinions and no-one would take them as facts, coz the honest truth is opinions are not facts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I stew on things for a while then it all comes out. I hate being made a fool of & appreciate honesty. Jill

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Honesty is good, but it does leave you vulnerable to abuse.

I guess that's why we have tact and why people have learned to be less honest. It will benefit them to do so. And if you're not harming someone else with not being honest then that's ok.

Made me think....

Imagine what a mess the world would be in without the ability to be dishonest?!

I think the world would be fine, if everyone had to be honest.

You could be honest and no-one could abuse that.

People could give their opinions and no-one would take them as facts, coz the honest truth is opinions are not facts.

We would never push ourselves...

Without bending the truth with unproven theory, no one would attempt any difficult task, because the most likely result would always be 0.

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By *ltravioletWoman
over a year ago

In amongst the Unicorns & fairy dust

I'm just me ,,,, because "" everyone else is taken ""'I'm truthfull to the core but I'm totally diplomatic and empothatic xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Honesty is good, but it does leave you vulnerable to abuse.

I guess that's why we have tact and why people have learned to be less honest. It will benefit them to do so. And if you're not harming someone else with not being honest then that's ok.

Made me think....

Imagine what a mess the world would be in without the ability to be dishonest?!

I think the world would be fine, if everyone had to be honest.

You could be honest and no-one could abuse that.

People could give their opinions and no-one would take them as facts, coz the honest truth is opinions are not facts.

We would never push ourselves...

Without bending the truth with unproven theory, no one would attempt any difficult task, because the most likely result would always be 0.

Life not wasted? Good result to me.

Unproven doesn't mean truth either, it means possibilities. Possibilities are not truths or lies but likelihoods, which cannot be true or false because they're unproven.

This is getting complicated...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Secrecy is the worst.. Why should you have to feel the need to hide anything?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Honesty has very blur_ed lines unless you're answering a closed question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Secrecy is the worst.. Why should you have to feel the need to hide anything? "

Eek!

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over a year ago

"Secrecy is the worst.. Why should you have to feel the need to hide anything?

Eek!"

I know.. Haha

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Honesty is good, but it does leave you vulnerable to abuse.

I guess that's why we have tact and why people have learned to be less honest. It will benefit them to do so. And if you're not harming someone else with not being honest then that's ok.

Made me think....

Imagine what a mess the world would be in without the ability to be dishonest?!

I think the world would be fine, if everyone had to be honest.

You could be honest and no-one could abuse that.

People could give their opinions and no-one would take them as facts, coz the honest truth is opinions are not facts.

We would never push ourselves...

Without bending the truth with unproven theory, no one would attempt any difficult task, because the most likely result would always be 0.

Life not wasted? Good result to me.

Unproven doesn't mean truth either, it means possibilities. Possibilities are not truths or lies but likelihoods, which cannot be true or false because they're unproven.

This is getting complicated..."

But many possibilities are made realities because of big lie!

Many times you have to tell people that they are going in the right direction, not a lie, but dishonesty.

You don't know, but you hope and you believe, the honest truth is that you should give up and never of attempted the task.

But that's not who we are.

We're beautiful little liars!

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Secrecy is the worst.. Why should you have to feel the need to hide anything?

Eek!

I know.. Haha"

Because society would fall apart....

Do you want to know everything our government does?

Do you want to know about the starving and those whose future is a damp swamp filled shack, so you can live you nice safe life, in your European home, far from certain danger.

All because you won the birth lottery?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Secrecy is the worst.. Why should you have to feel the need to hide anything?

Eek!

I know.. Haha

Because society would fall apart....

Do you want to know everything our government does?

Do you want to know about the starving and those whose future is a damp swamp filled shack, so you can live you nice safe life, in your European home, far from certain danger.

All because you won the birth lottery?"

What's awareness of world problems got to do with honesty?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Secrecy is the worst.. Why should you have to feel the need to hide anything?

Eek!

I know.. Haha

Because society would fall apart....

Do you want to know everything our government does?

Do you want to know about the starving and those whose future is a damp swamp filled shack, so you can live you nice safe life, in your European home, far from certain danger.

All because you won the birth lottery?"

There will never be total equality, people will always strive to be bigger and better.

No I wouldn't like to know about everything the government does, cause quite frankly, I don't care.. But if I did want to know then I would like that information to be accessible..

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over a year ago

"I prefer silence to dishonesty.

I won't be drawn into pointless arguments and would rather withdraw than deal with buffoonery or fucktardedness.

You can't deal with crazy or stupid..

Indeed. Sometimes it is simpler to retreat and feign ignorance.

I prefer people to be straight with me but there is no need to be hurtful. I would rather say nothing than hurt someone intentionally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Honesty is good, but it does leave you vulnerable to abuse.

I guess that's why we have tact and why people have learned to be less honest. It will benefit them to do so. And if you're not harming someone else with not being honest then that's ok.

Made me think....

Imagine what a mess the world would be in without the ability to be dishonest?!

I think the world would be fine, if everyone had to be honest.

You could be honest and no-one could abuse that.

People could give their opinions and no-one would take them as facts, coz the honest truth is opinions are not facts.

We would never push ourselves...

Without bending the truth with unproven theory, no one would attempt any difficult task, because the most likely result would always be 0.

Life not wasted? Good result to me.

Unproven doesn't mean truth either, it means possibilities. Possibilities are not truths or lies but likelihoods, which cannot be true or false because they're unproven.

This is getting complicated...

But many possibilities are made realities because of big lie!

Many times you have to tell people that they are going in the right direction, not a lie, but dishonesty.

You don't know, but you hope and you believe, the honest truth is that you should give up and never of attempted the task.

But that's not who we are.

We're beautiful little liars!"

Well nobody can lie so that rules all that out.

Life might be more depressing, not as fun or hopeful without lies. But i'm ok with that, what's the point in living in a dream or unreality?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Secrecy is the worst.. Why should you have to feel the need to hide anything?

Eek!

I know.. Haha

Because society would fall apart....

Do you want to know everything our government does?

Do you want to know about the starving and those whose future is a damp swamp filled shack, so you can live you nice safe life, in your European home, far from certain danger.

All because you won the birth lottery?"

I want to know yeah. And i want to know the truth about why they live that way.

None of the half truths, everything.

When people cannot lie they become vulnerable, sometimes it's good for people to be vulnerable. Other people will not like your truths and can act upon them instead of act on the lies.

If lies couldn't exist it'd be interesting to see just how many people really care that others attain a good quality of life, i'm guessing not a lot of people really care.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

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Nothing, whether ourselves, our opinions, our 'honesty', whatever, exists in isolation.

I prefer to be thoughtful and considerate and don't usually eject poisonous waffle from my head. If what's to be said is reasonably likely to leave someone worse off, I may change tack if I've already started.

It's hard work. But worth it. Saying that I do say some awful things sometimes, inopportune comments - very mild by many standards - but sometimes those holes get dug. And then dug deeper. But I hope that we all learn from our cock ups.