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"Isn't it funny how you're okay with asking someone to fuck but not to go on a date? It's strange here. " This totally this. Turning up at someone's house after chatting on line getting down to business I'm calm relaxed and it's easy no problem at can talk joke and feel comfortable with them. Take the exact same person and stick me on a Date with them instead and I'm a bag of nerves and just don't know what to say. | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx" I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job" Sooooo by that (I'm trying not to take offence to your comment) but because I'm in a low paid job I can't get a partner that might be slightly more well paid than me? Or women that don't earn that much for various reasons can't have a date? I can see your point and I would never expect my partner to support me, fuck I don't even feel comfortable when I go on a social and the guy tries to pay for everything | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job" you've got a point there! i have a low paid job with very long,unsociable hours,so don't have the time, or inclination at the moment to do the whole pof thing,tried it, but telling someone you might be free 3 saturdays ahead doesnt go down well...here however,people are much more accepting that i wont be meeting straightaway...and even on here im oddly more nervous about a social than a meet! | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job" Try match then! Not sure where you work but maybe our office is hogging all the career women from yours!! | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Sooooo by that (I'm trying not to take offence to your comment) but because I'm in a low paid job I can't get a partner that might be slightly more well paid than me? Or women that don't earn that much for various reasons can't have a date? I can see your point and I would never expect my partner to support me, fuck I don't even feel comfortable when I go on a social and the guy tries to pay for everything " No not at all. I just mean if I could meet a woman who earns the same a sme we could have a very very comfortable life with no effort no need for over time etc. But every one I know their girlfriend earns very little and so we're all in doing over time scraping up money for the mortgage or the car or the holiday etc. It would just be nice to find a partner who was on an equal level money wise to make life easier and less stressful | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Sooooo by that (I'm trying not to take offence to your comment) but because I'm in a low paid job I can't get a partner that might be slightly more well paid than me? Or women that don't earn that much for various reasons can't have a date? I can see your point and I would never expect my partner to support me, fuck I don't even feel comfortable when I go on a social and the guy tries to pay for everything No not at all. I just mean if I could meet a woman who earns the same a sme we could have a very very comfortable life with no effort no need for over time etc. But every one I know their girlfriend earns very little and so we're all in doing over time scraping up money for the mortgage or the car or the holiday etc. It would just be nice to find a partner who was on an equal level money wise to make life easier and less stressful " That's fair enough x | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Sooooo by that (I'm trying not to take offence to your comment) but because I'm in a low paid job I can't get a partner that might be slightly more well paid than me? Or women that don't earn that much for various reasons can't have a date? I can see your point and I would never expect my partner to support me, fuck I don't even feel comfortable when I go on a social and the guy tries to pay for everything No not at all. I just mean if I could meet a woman who earns the same a sme we could have a very very comfortable life with no effort no need for over time etc. But every one I know their girlfriend earns very little and so we're all in doing over time scraping up money for the mortgage or the car or the holiday etc. It would just be nice to find a partner who was on an equal level money wise to make life easier and less stressful That's fair enough x" It was just interesting that there's loads of carers, child support workers, hair dressers, shop staff etc. Spread across males who range from handy men, carpenters, skilled labourers to upper level management. Maybe it's just my area though. We are fairly rural | |||
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"I do not want to think about dating as dating anymore as I'm more comfortable calling it a social. Dating is a concept I've never gotten to grips with, but socialising is a joyous thing, so, even though it's theoretically the same, I'm gonna call it what I'm comfortable calling it" I like this mindset. It works for me. The last time I dated I was an ungainly teenager. I really wouldn't want to revert to that time in my life | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Sooooo by that (I'm trying not to take offence to your comment) but because I'm in a low paid job I can't get a partner that might be slightly more well paid than me? Or women that don't earn that much for various reasons can't have a date? I can see your point and I would never expect my partner to support me, fuck I don't even feel comfortable when I go on a social and the guy tries to pay for everything No not at all. I just mean if I could meet a woman who earns the same a sme we could have a very very comfortable life with no effort no need for over time etc. But every one I know their girlfriend earns very little and so we're all in doing over time scraping up money for the mortgage or the car or the holiday etc. It would just be nice to find a partner who was on an equal level money wise to make life easier and less stressful That's fair enough x It was just interesting that there's loads of carers, child support workers, hair dressers, shop staff etc. Spread across males who range from handy men, carpenters, skilled labourers to upper level management. Maybe it's just my area though. We are fairly rural " It's the same round here, to be honest I never looked at their jobs when I was on them! | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Sooooo by that (I'm trying not to take offence to your comment) but because I'm in a low paid job I can't get a partner that might be slightly more well paid than me? Or women that don't earn that much for various reasons can't have a date? I can see your point and I would never expect my partner to support me, fuck I don't even feel comfortable when I go on a social and the guy tries to pay for everything No not at all. I just mean if I could meet a woman who earns the same a sme we could have a very very comfortable life with no effort no need for over time etc. But every one I know their girlfriend earns very little and so we're all in doing over time scraping up money for the mortgage or the car or the holiday etc. It would just be nice to find a partner who was on an equal level money wise to make life easier and less stressful That's fair enough x It was just interesting that there's loads of carers, child support workers, hair dressers, shop staff etc. Spread across males who range from handy men, carpenters, skilled labourers to upper level management. Maybe it's just my area though. We are fairly rural " Some gender stereotyping there perhaps? Then again could just be proof of the ongoing pay gap between men and women. | |||
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"There's quite an obvious reason why pof has a lot of single mums on there and that's because they can't go out and socialise as much as someone with no dependants. As for the low paid or part time work, again even in this day of age it's the women that are the primary care providers, if they have children it's their career that gets pushed aside. I only work 20 hours a week and that's only 2 ten hour shifts a week, my mum comes round whilst my daughter is sleeping, I start at 10pm and finsh at 8am, get my daughter to school then go to bed for a few hours. It suits me right now, I can earn more if I worked more and would hate a guy to use my low earnings in comparison to his as an excuse not to date me. I have my own house and my own car I don't want nothing from a guy only his dick, arse hole, spunk and hugs, he can keep his spoils I wouldn't want it. " what do you want with his arse hole? | |||
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" what do you want with his arse hole? "Smell it, lick it, put hair removal cream on it, stick my tongue up it, cuddle it, list is endless! | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Sooooo by that (I'm trying not to take offence to your comment) but because I'm in a low paid job I can't get a partner that might be slightly more well paid than me? Or women that don't earn that much for various reasons can't have a date? I can see your point and I would never expect my partner to support me, fuck I don't even feel comfortable when I go on a social and the guy tries to pay for everything No not at all. I just mean if I could meet a woman who earns the same a sme we could have a very very comfortable life with no effort no need for over time etc. But every one I know their girlfriend earns very little and so we're all in doing over time scraping up money for the mortgage or the car or the holiday etc. It would just be nice to find a partner who was on an equal level money wise to make life easier and less stressful That's fair enough x It was just interesting that there's loads of carers, child support workers, hair dressers, shop staff etc. Spread across males who range from handy men, carpenters, skilled labourers to upper level management. Maybe it's just my area though. We are fairly rural Some gender stereotyping there perhaps? Then again could just be proof of the ongoing pay gap between men and women. " If it was a pay gap they would be doing the same jobs not different ones | |||
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"There's quite an obvious reason why pof has a lot of single mums on there and that's because they can't go out and socialise as much as someone with no dependants. As for the low paid or part time work, again even in this day of age it's the women that are the primary care providers, if they have children it's their career that gets pushed aside. I only work 20 hours a week and that's only 2 ten hour shifts a week, my mum comes round whilst my daughter is sleeping, I start at 10pm and finsh at 8am, get my daughter to school then go to bed for a few hours. It suits me right now, I can earn more if I worked more and would hate a guy to use my low earnings in comparison to his as an excuse not to date me. I have my own house and my own car I don't want nothing from a guy only his dick, arse hole, spunk and hugs, he can keep his spoils I wouldn't want it. " If it helps my last proper girlfriend was long term unemployed due to sickness but money had nothing to do with why it ended between us. It's not a reason not to date it was just that it would just be nice to have such a stress free life that amount of money would bring. It's not just single mum's though it's a lot of guys here's other half's and they don't have kids. My last boyfriend earned twice ad much as me but we weren't right for each other | |||
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Smell it, lick it, put hair removal cream on it, stick my tongue up it, cuddle it, list is endless!"Mines already smooth | |||
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"There's quite an obvious reason why pof has a lot of single mums on there and that's because they can't go out and socialise as much as someone with no dependants. As for the low paid or part time work, again even in this day of age it's the women that are the primary care providers, if they have children it's their career that gets pushed aside. I only work 20 hours a week and that's only 2 ten hour shifts a week, my mum comes round whilst my daughter is sleeping, I start at 10pm and finsh at 8am, get my daughter to school then go to bed for a few hours. It suits me right now, I can earn more if I worked more and would hate a guy to use my low earnings in comparison to his as an excuse not to date me. I have my own house and my own car I don't want nothing from a guy only his dick, arse hole, spunk and hugs, he can keep his spoils I wouldn't want it. " Very well said. Pre children and marriage I earned way more than my ex. A joint decision was made when we had our first child that I would give up my career. Now I have two school age children and a low paid job but it is a job that allows me to be there for them. I also have an ex husband lol. I own my house, car and we live a comfortable life. I would never want a man to support me and as you say, I'd hate for a man to dismiss me as I didn't earn enough. I've been on enough dates with guys who live with their parents, masses of debt etc. I'd never dismiss someone because they couldn't match me financially (most were dickheads though!) | |||
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"There's quite an obvious reason why pof has a lot of single mums on there and that's because they can't go out and socialise as much as someone with no dependants. As for the low paid or part time work, again even in this day of age it's the women that are the primary care providers, if they have children it's their career that gets pushed aside. I only work 20 hours a week and that's only 2 ten hour shifts a week, my mum comes round whilst my daughter is sleeping, I start at 10pm and finsh at 8am, get my daughter to school then go to bed for a few hours. It suits me right now, I can earn more if I worked more and would hate a guy to use my low earnings in comparison to his as an excuse not to date me. I have my own house and my own car I don't want nothing from a guy only his dick, arse hole, spunk and hugs, he can keep his spoils I wouldn't want it. Very well said. Pre children and marriage I earned way more than my ex. A joint decision was made when we had our first child that I would give up my career. Now I have two school age children and a low paid job but it is a job that allows me to be there for them. I also have an ex husband lol. I own my house, car and we live a comfortable life. I would never want a man to support me and as you say, I'd hate for a man to dismiss me as I didn't earn enough. I've been on enough dates with guys who live with their parents, masses of debt etc. I'd never dismiss someone because they couldn't match me financially (most were dickheads though!) " But no one's talking about dismissing a woman because eof what she earns :/ | |||
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"There's a Sunday dating thread going on in here each week though..." There is? I mustn't have come here often enough? | |||
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"..I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job" See now I found it the opposite way when i was on POF! Most guys seemed to have no job or no prospects, no interests, nothing to talk about! I don't get paid much so struggled when last bloke I was with was made redundant, lived with his mum, didn't drive, couldn't cook.. I just ended up resenting him thinking what's in it for me? | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job" Young female accountant 'poffer' here so we do exist Part of me had to try really hard not to take offence at some of OPs comments that were very stereotypical and symptomatic of a society where women stay at home But the other half of me sees his point ... Ive been in a long term relationship where i was the higher earner and at that point it wasnt even remotely high ... Just higher than his on top of him being an irresponsible spender... And everything becomes a struggle ... You put off life steps like buying a house together as the burden is all on you .... It gets to the point where you dont even want to suggest doing anything fun because it costs money that the other person doesnt have and its either on you again or youve put pressure on them ... You end up resenting each other as like it or not so much of life is about money and your never on a level playing field with each other Its definitely put me off that dynamic in a relationship again ... But i dont think it would be the salary that puts me off ... More the lack of a hard work ethic I dont think its the same for mothers though ... Like others have said they are generally in low paid or part time work because its difficult to hold down a full time career and raise children , particularly as a single woman | |||
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"Feels like a job interview" It basically is, nowadays. It's all about what you can provide and 'bring to the table', so to speak. It's total bullshit. | |||
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"OMGoodness, dating is lovely. It is fun and interesting and full of beautiful people. However, the souls out there are fragile and already damaged. I get messages from women who are stunningly lovely, are switched on and are able to support their kids and household without the ex who shitted on them. So why am I here? Because those ladies don't need me in their life. I appreciate them fully and fancy the pants off loads. But...and it is a big but...they don't need to have great sex and fun with a guy who is less obtainable than their ex. They need reaffirmation from a decent caring man. So....hello Fab. Please don't day hi if you can be hurt "But we can all be hurt - emotions sometimes take over, even if we don't want them to. But at least the majority on here are up front. | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Sooooo by that (I'm trying not to take offence to your comment) but because I'm in a low paid job I can't get a partner that might be slightly more well paid than me? Or women that don't earn that much for various reasons can't have a date? I can see your point and I would never expect my partner to support me, fuck I don't even feel comfortable when I go on a social and the guy tries to pay for everything No not at all. I just mean if I could meet a woman who earns the same a sme we could have a very very comfortable life with no effort no need for over time etc. But every one I know their girlfriend earns very little and so we're all in doing over time scraping up money for the mortgage or the car or the holiday etc. It would just be nice to find a partner who was on an equal level money wise to make life easier and less stressful " I earn a significant amount more than my partner as I am in a profession and he does various agency work, occasionally very lucrative, but this is a rare. I would never begrudge him that ... or seek out anyone who made more money than I do for the sake of it. Love over money, any day. Many women who earn more are in the caring professions, so perhaps are not looking for men who are interested in the size of their pay packet. Maybe men who earn less are a different sort of character and more attractive by virtue of their nature. I was never attracted to ambitious corporate types, been there, and done that. | |||
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"There's quite an obvious reason why pof has a lot of single mums on there and that's because they can't go out and socialise as much as someone with no dependants. As for the low paid or part time work, again even in this day of age it's the women that are the primary care providers, if they have children it's their career that gets pushed aside. I only work 20 hours a week and that's only 2 ten hour shifts a week, my mum comes round whilst my daughter is sleeping, I start at 10pm and finsh at 8am, get my daughter to school then go to bed for a few hours. It suits me right now, I can earn more if I worked more and would hate a guy to use my low earnings in comparison to his as an excuse not to date me. I have my own house and my own car I don't want nothing from a guy only his dick, arse hole, spunk and hugs, he can keep his spoils I wouldn't want it. " | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job" That's obviously about your own social circle then. In my social circle it's not the case because my friends are mostly women who've been to university and are pursuing professional jobs and tend to be earning in the same ballpark as their boyfriends and husbands. But they've also chosen not to have kids outside of stable relationships and that's probably the big difference. I wouldn't be with someone I didn't think had aspiration, ambition and earning potential and I wouldn't expect anyone to be with me if I had none of those things. If it's a short term state of affairs because of childcare that's different. If it's a deliberate lifestyle choice then it's unattractive. | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job That's obviously about your own social circle then. In my social circle it's not the case because my friends are mostly women who've been to university and are pursuing professional jobs and tend to be earning in the same ballpark as their boyfriends and husbands. But they've also chosen not to have kids outside of stable relationships and that's probably the big difference. I wouldn't be with someone I didn't think had aspiration, ambition and earning potential and I wouldn't expect anyone to be with me if I had none of those things. If it's a short term state of affairs because of childcare that's different. If it's a deliberate lifestyle choice then it's unattractive." Well yeah its my social circle maybe it's just that professional women don't mix with us working class guys lol. But the main point was the dating sites. But again maybe it's just the type of people who dating sites attract | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job That's obviously about your own social circle then. In my social circle it's not the case because my friends are mostly women who've been to university and are pursuing professional jobs and tend to be earning in the same ballpark as their boyfriends and husbands. But they've also chosen not to have kids outside of stable relationships and that's probably the big difference. I wouldn't be with someone I didn't think had aspiration, ambition and earning potential and I wouldn't expect anyone to be with me if I had none of those things. If it's a short term state of affairs because of childcare that's different. If it's a deliberate lifestyle choice then it's unattractive. Well yeah its my social circle maybe it's just that professional women don't mix with us working class guys lol. But the main point was the dating sites. But again maybe it's just the type of people who dating sites attract" All the dating sites have a different set of people they attract. Half my friends and women I work with are or have been on dating sites. Doesn't tend to be POF though. | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job That's obviously about your own social circle then. In my social circle it's not the case because my friends are mostly women who've been to university and are pursuing professional jobs and tend to be earning in the same ballpark as their boyfriends and husbands. But they've also chosen not to have kids outside of stable relationships and that's probably the big difference. I wouldn't be with someone I didn't think had aspiration, ambition and earning potential and I wouldn't expect anyone to be with me if I had none of those things. If it's a short term state of affairs because of childcare that's different. If it's a deliberate lifestyle choice then it's unattractive. Well yeah its my social circle maybe it's just that professional women don't mix with us working class guys lol. But the main point was the dating sites. But again maybe it's just the type of people who dating sites attract All the dating sites have a different set of people they attract. Half my friends and women I work with are or have been on dating sites. Doesn't tend to be POF though. " Fair enough it was the only one I looked at tbh | |||
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"I don't consider dating an option now. As THX pointed out,a woman who has nothing to offer a man except her company and body isn't dating material. The places I socialise aren't full of men I would want to date anyway. I hope it goes well for you OP " That is totally not what I said :/ | |||
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"I don't consider dating an option now. As THX pointed out,a woman who has nothing to offer a man except her company and body isn't dating material. The places I socialise aren't full of men I would want to date anyway. I hope it goes well for you OP That is totally not what I said :/" Not in that way sorry. I meant that as I don't have anything else to attract men with I don't bother dating. I'm older than you so men aren't looking for a prospective mother to their children or someone to get a mortgage with. It's different for us divorced oldies. | |||
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" All the dating sites have a different set of people they attract. Half my friends and women I work with are or have been on dating sites. Doesn't tend to be POF though. " I signed up to POF and only logged on once, it's not the demographic I;m interested at all. Joined another site and while it was't perfect (what sote is?) there was a lot more people I was interested in. Recognised loads off people from the London kink scene and many openly poly and kinky people on there. It's horses for courses, my best friend signed up to the same site and she hated it | |||
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"I don't think I'd be any good at dating. I'd be sitting there thinking 'are we gonna have sex?' " I'd be the same probably,because I don't want to waste any more years with a man who wasn't satisfying me sexually. I think it's stopping me from even considering a relationship. | |||
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" All the dating sites have a different set of people they attract. Half my friends and women I work with are or have been on dating sites. Doesn't tend to be POF though. I signed up to POF and only logged on once, it's not the demographic I;m interested at all." I feel the same about POF - the demographic just isn't my cup of tea. I know they are useful tools, but something about online dating just doesn't feel right anwyay to me - it's not particularly organic. Guess I'm going to just have to step outside my cave more often.  | |||
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"On the flip side of what THX said, my sister in law (who is very shallow) actually joined a dating site (can't remember which one) and only looked at the guys jobs, she only met guys that had good jobs, she married one too and she is set for life....is she happy? Nope, she came from a fairly normal family that 'got by' to one where she wants for nothing (new car etc) but he lacks affection, won't spend his money unless he has too and now she wants a divorce from him because she thought the grass was greener but she found out trying to nab a man 'above her' in the pay the stakes, wasn't what she thought it was going to be. " Sounds like a 2015 remake of Pride & Prejudice | |||
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"On the flip side of what THX said, my sister in law (who is very shallow) actually joined a dating site (can't remember which one) and only looked at the guys jobs, she only met guys that had good jobs, she married one too and she is set for life....is she happy? Nope, she came from a fairly normal family that 'got by' to one where she wants for nothing (new car etc) but he lacks affection, won't spend his money unless he has too and now she wants a divorce from him because she thought the grass was greener but she found out trying to nab a man 'above her' in the pay the stakes, wasn't what she thought it was going to be. Sounds like a 2015 remake of Pride & Prejudice" I've never seen it | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx" Exactly!!! The only difference (for a woman-I believe) between Fab & a dating site is that Fab is openly & honestly just about sex  | |||
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"I like this thread some really interesting points being made here, in both of my previous relationships I have supported women who had kids with previous partners and felt it slightly unfair especially when the relationships turned sour. Would love to meet someone who had a salary similar to mine with no dependants maybe its me just being selfish but part of me would like to know what it was like to be in a relationship where money was plentiful however I think those ladies with high skilled jobs and decent salaries wouldn't use a site like this and probably married their school sweetheart and probably never looked back." Good luck in your search! I was that woman. Now divorced from my childhood sweetheart with 2 kids who are my world. I think you'll find at our age childless women are harder to come by. | |||
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"I don't consider dating an option now. As THX pointed out,a woman who has nothing to offer a man except her company and body isn't dating material. The places I socialise aren't full of men I would want to date anyway. I hope it goes well for you OP That is totally not what I said :/ Not in that way sorry. I meant that as I don't have anything else to attract men with I don't bother dating. I'm older than you so men aren't looking for a prospective mother to their children or someone to get a mortgage with. It's different for us divorced oldies. " You dont need to let that stop you dating though ... Peoples opinions here are not a list of what everyone wants from dating ... Everyone is different Its perfectly reasonable that you could meet a man already financially stable, already got children and all he is looking for is the companionship and sexual elements | |||
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"You shouldn't let it make you feel bad. Different things appeal to different people. If I were single I'd rather remain single than get into a relationship with someone with a child from a previous relationship because it does mean you have to make financial and time and other compromises and I don't want to do that for someone else's children. But I think that's a minority opinion to be honest. " Why does the person have to make financial compromises though if they dated someone with a child? My child is my own business, she'd incur the same costs whether I was with someone or not, between her father and I everything she needs clothing and food wise, every class she does, every treat, every school trip or fun activity she does, those costs are covered by me and her father, I wouldn't expect neither would I allow a guy I was dating or in a relationship with buy anything for my child, she's mine not theirs. | |||
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"You shouldn't let it make you feel bad. Different things appeal to different people. If I were single I'd rather remain single than get into a relationship with someone with a child from a previous relationship because it does mean you have to make financial and time and other compromises and I don't want to do that for someone else's children. But I think that's a minority opinion to be honest. Why does the person have to make financial compromises though if they dated someone with a child? My child is my own business, she'd incur the same costs whether I was with someone or not, between her father and I everything she needs clothing and food wise, every class she does, every treat, every school trip or fun activity she does, those costs are covered by me and her father, I wouldn't expect neither would I allow a guy I was dating or in a relationship with buy anything for my child, she's mine not theirs. " Every situation is different, in my person experience I once dated a woman with a kid. I gladly paid for things for the child as did the child's biological father. She never pressured me to do so but the logic is simple. If I'm serious about this woman then maybe we will have our own kids one day. It's simply not fair on a child to grow up in a household being treated differently to their half brother or sister. The relationship didn't work out but I don't regret spending a penny of that money. I'm not trying to suggest there's anything wrong with what you said. Just putting another side to it. It really depends on the situation. | |||
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When dating, someone's financial situation is the last thing I care about "Me too, love is way too precious and rare a commodity to miss out on because of money. I earned more than my share in my marriage, but I don't give a stuff. I know some men are very money orientated when looking for relationships though - maybe because they are afraid of losing half of everything for a second time!!
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"I like this thread some really interesting points being made here, in both of my previous relationships I have supported women who had kids with previous partners and felt it slightly unfair especially when the relationships turned sour. Would love to meet someone who had a salary similar to mine with no dependants maybe its me just being selfish but part of me would like to know what it was like to be in a relationship where money was plentiful however I think those ladies with high skilled jobs and decent salaries wouldn't use a site like this and probably married their school sweetheart and probably never looked back. Good luck in your search! I was that woman. Now divorced from my childhood sweetheart with 2 kids who are my world. I think you'll find at our age childless women are harder to come by. " I constantly get asked why I don't have kids by men at 35, I seem to attract men who don't want kids and assume that I haven't had kids at 35 that I don't want them. I find dating depressing at the moment hence why I haven't been on a date for a while. | |||
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"You shouldn't let it make you feel bad. Different things appeal to different people. If I were single I'd rather remain single than get into a relationship with someone with a child from a previous relationship because it does mean you have to make financial and time and other compromises and I don't want to do that for someone else's children. But I think that's a minority opinion to be honest. Why does the person have to make financial compromises though if they dated someone with a child? My child is my own business, she'd incur the same costs whether I was with someone or not, between her father and I everything she needs clothing and food wise, every class she does, every treat, every school trip or fun activity she does, those costs are covered by me and her father, I wouldn't expect neither would I allow a guy I was dating or in a relationship with buy anything for my child, she's mine not theirs. " Because if I was with someone who had children from a previous relationship, a proportion of his time, money and love would be spent on that child and not on me, or any children I might have with them, so yes as a couple the two of us would be making those compromises. Unless he wasn't involved in any way in those children's lives, which is not attractive either. | |||
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"You shouldn't let it make you feel bad. Different things appeal to different people. If I were single I'd rather remain single than get into a relationship with someone with a child from a previous relationship because it does mean you have to make financial and time and other compromises and I don't want to do that for someone else's children. But I think that's a minority opinion to be honest. Why does the person have to make financial compromises though if they dated someone with a child? My child is my own business, she'd incur the same costs whether I was with someone or not, between her father and I everything she needs clothing and food wise, every class she does, every treat, every school trip or fun activity she does, those costs are covered by me and her father, I wouldn't expect neither would I allow a guy I was dating or in a relationship with buy anything for my child, she's mine not theirs. Every situation is different, in my person experience I once dated a woman with a kid. I gladly paid for things for the child as did the child's biological father. She never pressured me to do so but the logic is simple. If I'm serious about this woman then maybe we will have our own kids one day. It's simply not fair on a child to grow up in a household being treated differently to their half brother or sister. The relationship didn't work out but I don't regret spending a penny of that money. I'm not trying to suggest there's anything wrong with what you said. Just putting another side to it. It really depends on the situation. " Think some people are too quick to indroduce people into their child's lives that could one day not be there anymore. My child has never seen me with another guy and wouldn't see me with another man until I was 100% sure of his background and 100% sure that he would be a permanent fixture in her life. Seen way too many fucked up things in my job that influences the way I think. Nah like my child is totally separate you're dating me you don't need to know about anything else. My kid knows mammy works in a prison and makes all the bad men behave, my kid has seen mammy do kickboxing fights with guys, my kid sleeps in pitch black at night with her door shut cos she knows there's no monsters in this house. She knows I'm the boss over every single adult in her life and like fuck would I indroduce a guy to our lives that could undermine me in front of her whether that was financially or any other way. She's mine and if a guy ever got to the stage where I was happy to introduce them he would feel privileged that I've let him see the most precious thing in my life, if he felt or showed any signs to me that she was a financial burden I'd knee him in the jimmy and he'd be gone. | |||
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"So been on here and a previous site 5 years now and decided to get back into the vanilla world of pulling / dating. Not for long term just fancy a fresh challenge armed with the confidence and knowledge learned and earned off here and clubs. Any thoughts or tips from others who've headed back to nature? " Nature ? I find it odd, weird and amusing when people say ....... been here a while now... had some shags.... time to get back to reality. Almost as if they were never into the swinging lifestyle , mentality or morality but just joined for a shag until someone respectable came along. | |||
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" I just mean if I could meet a woman who earns the same a sme we could have a very very comfortable life with no effort no need for over time etc. But every one I know their girlfriend earns very little and so we're all in doing over time scraping up money for the mortgage or the car or the holiday etc. It would just be nice to find a partner who was on an equal level money wise to make life easier and less stressful " Story of my life.... I've supported men in lower paid jobs than me. It's a nightmare isn't it?! Said without trace of irony. | |||
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"You shouldn't let it make you feel bad. Different things appeal to different people. If I were single I'd rather remain single than get into a relationship with someone with a child from a previous relationship because it does mean you have to make financial and time and other compromises and I don't want to do that for someone else's children. But I think that's a minority opinion to be honest. Why does the person have to make financial compromises though if they dated someone with a child? My child is my own business, she'd incur the same costs whether I was with someone or not, between her father and I everything she needs clothing and food wise, every class she does, every treat, every school trip or fun activity she does, those costs are covered by me and her father, I wouldn't expect neither would I allow a guy I was dating or in a relationship with buy anything for my child, she's mine not theirs. Every situation is different, in my person experience I once dated a woman with a kid. I gladly paid for things for the child as did the child's biological father. She never pressured me to do so but the logic is simple. If I'm serious about this woman then maybe we will have our own kids one day. It's simply not fair on a child to grow up in a household being treated differently to their half brother or sister. The relationship didn't work out but I don't regret spending a penny of that money. I'm not trying to suggest there's anything wrong with what you said. Just putting another side to it. It really depends on the situation. Think some people are too quick to indroduce people into their child's lives that could one day not be there anymore. My child has never seen me with another guy and wouldn't see me with another man until I was 100% sure of his background and 100% sure that he would be a permanent fixture in her life. Seen way too many fucked up things in my job that influences the way I think. Nah like my child is totally separate you're dating me you don't need to know about anything else. My kid knows mammy works in a prison and makes all the bad men behave, my kid has seen mammy do kickboxing fights with guys, my kid sleeps in pitch black at night with her door shut cos she knows there's no monsters in this house. She knows I'm the boss over every single adult in her life and like fuck would I indroduce a guy to our lives that could undermine me in front of her whether that was financially or any other way. She's mine and if a guy ever got to the stage where I was happy to introduce them he would feel privileged that I've let him see the most precious thing in my life, if he felt or showed any signs to me that she was a financial burden I'd knee him in the jimmy and he'd be gone. " Now now, you should never knee a guy in the jimmy | |||
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"You shouldn't let it make you feel bad. Different things appeal to different people. If I were single I'd rather remain single than get into a relationship with someone with a child from a previous relationship because it does mean you have to make financial and time and other compromises and I don't want to do that for someone else's children. But I think that's a minority opinion to be honest. Why does the person have to make financial compromises though if they dated someone with a child? My child is my own business, she'd incur the same costs whether I was with someone or not, between her father and I everything she needs clothing and food wise, every class she does, every treat, every school trip or fun activity she does, those costs are covered by me and her father, I wouldn't expect neither would I allow a guy I was dating or in a relationship with buy anything for my child, she's mine not theirs. Every situation is different, in my person experience I once dated a woman with a kid. I gladly paid for things for the child as did the child's biological father. She never pressured me to do so but the logic is simple. If I'm serious about this woman then maybe we will have our own kids one day. It's simply not fair on a child to grow up in a household being treated differently to their half brother or sister. The relationship didn't work out but I don't regret spending a penny of that money. I'm not trying to suggest there's anything wrong with what you said. Just putting another side to it. It really depends on the situation. Think some people are too quick to indroduce people into their child's lives that could one day not be there anymore. My child has never seen me with another guy and wouldn't see me with another man until I was 100% sure of his background and 100% sure that he would be a permanent fixture in her life. Seen way too many fucked up things in my job that influences the way I think. Nah like my child is totally separate you're dating me you don't need to know about anything else. My kid knows mammy works in a prison and makes all the bad men behave, my kid has seen mammy do kickboxing fights with guys, my kid sleeps in pitch black at night with her door shut cos she knows there's no monsters in this house. She knows I'm the boss over every single adult in her life and like fuck would I indroduce a guy to our lives that could undermine me in front of her whether that was financially or any other way. She's mine and if a guy ever got to the stage where I was happy to introduce them he would feel privileged that I've let him see the most precious thing in my life, if he felt or showed any signs to me that she was a financial burden I'd knee him in the jimmy and he'd be gone. " Sounds like your a very strong independent woman ... Which is a good thing And apologies if i over step here but a bit of advice ... Be careful how much of it you project onto your child ... Yes you want them to be able to take care of themselves but it can go too far the other way But personally having been the child in that scenario ... No doubt with my attitude ive adopted to dating and men ans the very little inportance they have in my life to everything else and my inability to allow anyone to do anything for me because i want to do it all ans provide it all for myself ... I am likely to be so independent i will be living with cats when i am older ... Except probably without even the cats  | |||
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"Was in Asda and mind wandered while staring at a womans bum in a tight skirt. Never saw her looking at me, got caught perving. She winked. And i swear my cock went solid in no time and stayed like that for an hour. So yes. A real life wink is better than a virtual one." Well don't stop the story there ffs. Did you approach? If not, why not? | |||
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"There's quite an obvious reason why pof has a lot of single mums on there and that's because they can't go out and socialise as much as someone with no dependants. As for the low paid or part time work, again even in this day of age it's the women that are the primary care providers, if they have children it's their career that gets pushed aside. I only work 20 hours a week and that's only 2 ten hour shifts a week, my mum comes round whilst my daughter is sleeping, I start at 10pm and finsh at 8am, get my daughter to school then go to bed for a few hours. It suits me right now, I can earn more if I worked more and would hate a guy to use my low earnings in comparison to his as an excuse not to date me. I have my own house and my own car I don't want nothing from a guy only his dick, arse hole, spunk and hugs, he can keep his spoils I wouldn't want it. " Spot on- pretty similar here. In addition.. I paid into the system for 20 years first, and this economically tight spell is temporary- My choice to spend the Time with my child Rather than pay a stranger to bring her up! I don't "Need" a man for his earning ability or otherwise, I "Want" one but again, not for his money!- for his personality and some good loving! | |||
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"You shouldn't let it make you feel bad. Different things appeal to different people. If I were single I'd rather remain single than get into a relationship with someone with a child from a previous relationship because it does mean you have to make financial and time and other compromises and I don't want to do that for someone else's children. But I think that's a minority opinion to be honest. Why does the person have to make financial compromises though if they dated someone with a child? My child is my own business, she'd incur the same costs whether I was with someone or not, between her father and I everything she needs clothing and food wise, every class she does, every treat, every school trip or fun activity she does, those costs are covered by me and her father, I wouldn't expect neither would I allow a guy I was dating or in a relationship with buy anything for my child, she's mine not theirs. Because if I was with someone who had children from a previous relationship, a proportion of his time, money and love would be spent on that child and not on me, or any children I might have with them, so yes as a couple the two of us would be making those compromises. Unless he wasn't involved in any way in those children's lives, which is not attractive either. " Someone else in the minority here. Childfree and in my 40s. I won't date men with children for these reasons. Our priorities would be too different. | |||
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When dating, someone's financial situation is the last thing I care about "exactly this who cares its about the person and wether you gel as a couple xx | |||
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"When I start dating, I would want somebody to want me for who I am, and not for what I earn or dont earn, or have or do not have!" Agree absolutely! Find some of the comments on this thread pretty hard to swallow! I'm all for keeping a clear head when considering embarking on a relationship - but there seems to be a lot of coldness on here which is very sad! If I'm lucky enough to fall in love with a wonderful man and be loved in return, I couldn't give a crap whether he has kids or not, and whether his 'own business' is a multinational corporation or a window-cleaning round!! | |||
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"If I dated a guy now I'd need to find one that worked away, armed forces or on the oil rigs or something like my friends husband. Been on my own so long I think having a guy around constantly would get on my nerves. Just the security of knowing I have a boyfriend and then him coming back on a weekend to service me would be fine. " Long distance? | |||
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"I must say, If I were to date a lady, how much money she had would not enter my head. I'd want her company because I found her funny and sexy and good company not cos she had a fat wallet. " What if you wanted to go on a holiday abroad and she couldn't afford to pay for herself? | |||
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"I must say, If I were to date a lady, how much money she had would not enter my head. I'd want her company because I found her funny and sexy and good company not cos she had a fat wallet. " But no one has said this everyone is arguing against a point that was never ever made :/ | |||
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"Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Some of us do "It seems rare though :p Thing is most of my mates gf and wives could do our job the company is desperate for women they aim for 25% of every shop floor intake in the years I've been here most they've struggled to get even 1, not 1%, one girl. It's not that they're failing the entrance exams etc it's just that they aren't applying, there's whole advertising campaigns they've got for getting girls in even targeting specifically in schools. But still none seem to want to do it. So what's working class for men here is reasonably well laid skilled labour for women is low paid shop or care work. Both of which tbh require more effort than our jobs. I just don't get why women don't go for more manual labour jobs (it's fitting work, so they could sit and fit compenents that don't even weigh 1kg so it's not about heavy lifting etc, more care and attention to detail) or engineering. It just seems odd that the natural paths girls around 16/18 choose when it comes to career choice. | |||
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"You shouldn't let it make you feel bad. Different things appeal to different people. If I were single I'd rather remain single than get into a relationship with someone with a child from a previous relationship because it does mean you have to make financial and time and other compromises and I don't want to do that for someone else's children. But I think that's a minority opinion to be honest. Why does the person have to make financial compromises though if they dated someone with a child? My child is my own business, she'd incur the same costs whether I was with someone or not, between her father and I everything she needs clothing and food wise, every class she does, every treat, every school trip or fun activity she does, those costs are covered by me and her father, I wouldn't expect neither would I allow a guy I was dating or in a relationship with buy anything for my child, she's mine not theirs. " I brought three children up on my own without any support from any of their father's, financial, emotional ... all in another country. My partner supports his three children. I have always paid my own way, got my career, and we have at times struggled by, but we have done it. My oldest, now eighteen says, you would be rich if you didn't have us ..., of course, but who would swap wealth for the amazing miracle of bringing a life into this world. I made a conscious decision to walk away from the white middle class 'dream' which I considered a nightmare (1 came from a working class environment, but went to university). I cannot say that anyone I have dated has been negative about my children and if they were, the choice would be obvious. Luckily my partner, who I met on here, has children a similar age to mine and so we have similar challenges as parents, teenagers .... I would not date a man who didn't have children, but his finances would not be an issue for me. | |||
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"Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Some of us do
It seems rare though :p
Thing is most of my mates gf and wives could do our job the company is desperate for women they aim for 25% of every shop floor intake in the years I've been here most they've struggled to get even 1, not 1%, one girl.
It's not that they're failing the entrance exams etc it's just that they aren't applying, there's whole advertising campaigns they've got for getting girls in even targeting specifically in schools. But still none seem to want to do it.
So what's working class for men here is reasonably well laid skilled labour for women is low paid shop or care work.
Both of which tbh require more effort than our jobs.
I just don't get why women don't go for more manual labour jobs (it's fitting work, so they could sit and fit compenents that don't even weigh 1kg so it's not about heavy lifting etc, more care and attention to detail) or engineering.
It just seems odd that the natural paths girls around 16/18 choose when it comes to career choice."Did you mention earlier in the thread what your profession is? I am just curious ... | |||
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"Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Some of us do
It seems rare though :p
Thing is most of my mates gf and wives could do our job the company is desperate for women they aim for 25% of every shop floor intake in the years I've been here most they've struggled to get even 1, not 1%, one girl.
It's not that they're failing the entrance exams etc it's just that they aren't applying, there's whole advertising campaigns they've got for getting girls in even targeting specifically in schools. But still none seem to want to do it.
So what's working class for men here is reasonably well laid skilled labour for women is low paid shop or care work.
Both of which tbh require more effort than our jobs.
I just don't get why women don't go for more manual labour jobs (it's fitting work, so they could sit and fit compenents that don't even weigh 1kg so it's not about heavy lifting etc, more care and attention to detail) or engineering.
It just seems odd that the natural paths girls around 16/18 choose when it comes to career choice.
Did you mention earlier in the thread what your profession is? I am just curious ..."aircraft fitter/electrician. | |||
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"Well I don't like thread very much. It's made me feel quite shit if I'm honest. Seems like if a guy was to date me he'd feel like he was scraping the bottom of the dating barrel becaue I have a child from a previous relationship and because of my circumstances I can't work more hours than I already do. I've dated guys in the past and they've never even seen my child because I see the guy on weekends when my child is with her father, I'd never even dream of another guy supporting me or my child, her father and I do that, he wouldn't let another man pay for his kid either. I find it quite insulting that guys think if they got with a single parent they'd be taken on some massive financial burden. " | |||
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"Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Some of us do
It seems rare though :p
Thing is most of my mates gf and wives could do our job the company is desperate for women they aim for 25% of every shop floor intake in the years I've been here most they've struggled to get even 1, not 1%, one girl.
It's not that they're failing the entrance exams etc it's just that they aren't applying, there's whole advertising campaigns they've got for getting girls in even targeting specifically in schools. But still none seem to want to do it.
So what's working class for men here is reasonably well laid skilled labour for women is low paid shop or care work.
Both of which tbh require more effort than our jobs.
I just don't get why women don't go for more manual labour jobs (it's fitting work, so they could sit and fit compenents that don't even weigh 1kg so it's not about heavy lifting etc, more care and attention to detail) or engineering.
It just seems odd that the natural paths girls around 16/18 choose when it comes to career choice."I agree it's a huge shame, I think there is a "those are boys' subjects" kind of aspect, which is sad. I went to an all girls' school and more girls took A Level physics than in all the mixed schools in the whole city put together. | |||
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"Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Some of us do
It seems rare though :p
Thing is most of my mates gf and wives could do our job the company is desperate for women they aim for 25% of every shop floor intake in the years I've been here most they've struggled to get even 1, not 1%, one girl.
It's not that they're failing the entrance exams etc it's just that they aren't applying, there's whole advertising campaigns they've got for getting girls in even targeting specifically in schools. But still none seem to want to do it.
So what's working class for men here is reasonably well laid skilled labour for women is low paid shop or care work.
Both of which tbh require more effort than our jobs.
I just don't get why women don't go for more manual labour jobs (it's fitting work, so they could sit and fit compenents that don't even weigh 1kg so it's not about heavy lifting etc, more care and attention to detail) or engineering.
It just seems odd that the natural paths girls around 16/18 choose when it comes to career choice.
Did you mention earlier in the thread what your profession is? I am just curious ...
aircraft fitter/electrician. "Maybe will take some years for the barriers to break down ... but. Having three teenagers, don't see much at their careers fairs, to be honest. My youngest is very technical science geek, math-ish. On another point, I agree with sea witch .... I did not date for seven years whilst my children were young and I was developing my career, so they could feel stable and so could I. | |||
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"Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Some of us do
It seems rare though :p
Thing is most of my mates gf and wives could do our job the company is desperate for women they aim for 25% of every shop floor intake in the years I've been here most they've struggled to get even 1, not 1%, one girl.
It's not that they're failing the entrance exams etc it's just that they aren't applying, there's whole advertising campaigns they've got for getting girls in even targeting specifically in schools. But still none seem to want to do it.
So what's working class for men here is reasonably well laid skilled labour for women is low paid shop or care work.
Both of which tbh require more effort than our jobs.
I just don't get why women don't go for more manual labour jobs (it's fitting work, so they could sit and fit compenents that don't even weigh 1kg so it's not about heavy lifting etc, more care and attention to detail) or engineering.
It just seems odd that the natural paths girls around 16/18 choose when it comes to career choice.
Did you mention earlier in the thread what your profession is? I am just curious ...
aircraft fitter/electrician. "I would have loved a job like that. In my days girls were steered towards cooking,sewing and typing. All of which you can teach yourself. I was top in electronics and TD but they wanted me to type and make skirts. The men in my family are electrical engineers,I wanted to follow the family tradition but wasn't allowed. School became monotonous and un-challenging and I went from top of the class to dropping out. I would hope that now if a girl wants to do a technical job she is encouraged. | |||
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"Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Some of us do
It seems rare though :p
Thing is most of my mates gf and wives could do our job the company is desperate for women they aim for 25% of every shop floor intake in the years I've been here most they've struggled to get even 1, not 1%, one girl.
It's not that they're failing the entrance exams etc it's just that they aren't applying, there's whole advertising campaigns they've got for getting girls in even targeting specifically in schools. But still none seem to want to do it.
So what's working class for men here is reasonably well laid skilled labour for women is low paid shop or care work.
Both of which tbh require more effort than our jobs.
I just don't get why women don't go for more manual labour jobs (it's fitting work, so they could sit and fit compenents that don't even weigh 1kg so it's not about heavy lifting etc, more care and attention to detail) or engineering.
It just seems odd that the natural paths girls around 16/18 choose when it comes to career choice.
Did you mention earlier in the thread what your profession is? I am just curious ...
aircraft fitter/electrician.
I would have loved a job like that. In my days girls were steered towards cooking,sewing and typing. All of which you can teach yourself. I was top in electronics and TD but they wanted me to type and make skirts. The men in my family are electrical engineers,I wanted to follow the family tradition but wasn't allowed. School became monotonous and un-challenging and I went from top of the class to dropping out. I would hope that now if a girl wants to do a technical job she is encouraged. "They are encouraged massively. They choose not to though. My mum was the same as you wanted to do science etc at school and wasn't a lowed because of the way society was back then At the college every girl in every engineering course in combined wouldn't even equal the number in one health and beauty class. | |||
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"Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Some of us do
It seems rare though :p
Thing is most of my mates gf and wives could do our job the company is desperate for women they aim for 25% of every shop floor intake in the years I've been here most they've struggled to get even 1, not 1%, one girl.
It's not that they're failing the entrance exams etc it's just that they aren't applying, there's whole advertising campaigns they've got for getting girls in even targeting specifically in schools. But still none seem to want to do it.
So what's working class for men here is reasonably well laid skilled labour for women is low paid shop or care work.
Both of which tbh require more effort than our jobs.
I just don't get why women don't go for more manual labour jobs (it's fitting work, so they could sit and fit compenents that don't even weigh 1kg so it's not about heavy lifting etc, more care and attention to detail) or engineering.
It just seems odd that the natural paths girls around 16/18 choose when it comes to career choice.
Did you mention earlier in the thread what your profession is? I am just curious ...
aircraft fitter/electrician.
I would have loved a job like that. In my days girls were steered towards cooking,sewing and typing. All of which you can teach yourself. I was top in electronics and TD but they wanted me to type and make skirts. The men in my family are electrical engineers,I wanted to follow the family tradition but wasn't allowed. School became monotonous and un-challenging and I went from top of the class to dropping out. I would hope that now if a girl wants to do a technical job she is encouraged.
They are encouraged massively. They choose not to though.
My mum was the same as you wanted to do science etc at school and wasn't a lowed because of the way society was back then
At the college every girl in every engineering course in combined wouldn't even equal the number in one health and beauty class."Should women be forced to do subjects they don't like and aren't interested in, just so people can claim careers are equal? | |||
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"If I dated a guy now I'd need to find one that worked away, armed forces or on the oil rigs or something like my friends husband. Been on my own so long I think having a guy around constantly would get on my nerves. Just the security of knowing I have a boyfriend and then him coming back on a weekend to service me would be fine. Long distance? " I did long distance before but it didn't work, the guy was a couple of years younger than me and a wreck head, would be out partying all the time which is fine but don't fuck with my sleep! Would ring me when he was wrecked and wake me up! | |||
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"Fuck me, meant to be light hearted this thread but it turned left at the lights it seems." Sorry, massively hijacked thread! | |||
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"Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job Some of us do
It seems rare though :p
Thing is most of my mates gf and wives could do our job the company is desperate for women they aim for 25% of every shop floor intake in the years I've been here most they've struggled to get even 1, not 1%, one girl.
It's not that they're failing the entrance exams etc it's just that they aren't applying, there's whole advertising campaigns they've got for getting girls in even targeting specifically in schools. But still none seem to want to do it.
So what's working class for men here is reasonably well laid skilled labour for women is low paid shop or care work.
Both of which tbh require more effort than our jobs.
I just don't get why women don't go for more manual labour jobs (it's fitting work, so they could sit and fit compenents that don't even weigh 1kg so it's not about heavy lifting etc, more care and attention to detail) or engineering.
It just seems odd that the natural paths girls around 16/18 choose when it comes to career choice.
Did you mention earlier in the thread what your profession is? I am just curious ...
aircraft fitter/electrician.
I would have loved a job like that. In my days girls were steered towards cooking,sewing and typing. All of which you can teach yourself. I was top in electronics and TD but they wanted me to type and make skirts. The men in my family are electrical engineers,I wanted to follow the family tradition but wasn't allowed. School became monotonous and un-challenging and I went from top of the class to dropping out. I would hope that now if a girl wants to do a technical job she is encouraged.
They are encouraged massively. They choose not to though.
My mum was the same as you wanted to do science etc at school and wasn't a lowed because of the way society was back then
At the college every girl in every engineering course in combined wouldn't even equal the number in one health and beauty class.
Should women be forced to do subjects they don't like and aren't interested in, just so people can claim careers are equal?"I am an arts and humanities graduate but my daughter is a total science and maths buff. She goes to an all girls school and although she has always excelled in science, the maths has really come on since going there. I think its because the boys are not dominating the subject. All of my children are much more science leaning than I am .... all I have done is encouraged them to be inquisitive and interested in the world around them .... | |||
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"There's a Sunday dating thread going on in here each week though... you never know what might happen... a vanilla date with a swinger!
Yeh I'm waiting for MissCC to start the next one! Lol"Yes, WHERE are these 'famous' threads on a Sunday? | |||
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"Was in Asda and mind wandered while staring at a womans bum in a tight skirt. Never saw her looking at me, got caught perving. She winked. And i swear my cock went solid in no time and stayed like that for an hour. So yes. A real life wink is better than a virtual one. Well don't stop the story there ffs. Did you approach? If not, why not? " Haha. Sorry but I saw her in one more aisle and she had a smirk but nothing happened. Wish it had. Left me horny as fuck though. | |||
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"Was in Asda and mind wandered while staring at a womans bum in a tight skirt. Never saw her looking at me, got caught perving. She winked. And i swear my cock went solid in no time and stayed like that for an hour. So yes. A real life wink is better than a virtual one. Well don't stop the story there ffs. Did you approach? If not, why not? Haha. Sorry but I saw her in one more aisle and she had a smirk but nothing happened. Wish it had. Left me horny as fuck though." Yes I know what you mean. We've been to clubs and after seeing tens of couples fucking and hundreds of naked bodies, the think that sticks in your mind was the right look from a lovely lady! | |||
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"I went on a pof date last night. My first in ages and I had to say yes as the lady was stunning. Nice chat but all I could think was..."I wish this was a social." It is horrible knowing that I am so attracted to a lady and I can't get her to bed. " Why not? People on POF want sex too, they just want sex that could develop into something deeper! | |||
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"I went on a pof date last night. My first in ages and I had to say yes as the lady was stunning. Nice chat but all I could think was..."I wish this was a social." It is horrible knowing that I am so attracted to a lady and I can't get her to bed. Should have gone to visit family as I had planned to do "You wish you hadn't bothered meeting her because you didn't get to fuck her? Seriously?! Women are only worth spending time with if men can get them in bed. | |||
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"I went on a pof date last night. My first in ages and I had to say yes as the lady was stunning. Nice chat but all I could think was..."I wish this was a social." It is horrible knowing that I am so attracted to a lady and I can't get her to bed. Should have gone to visit family as I had planned to do "You're one of those men on a dating site who don't actually want to date. Why did you bother? | |||
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"I went on a pof date last night. My first in ages and I had to say yes as the lady was stunning. Nice chat but all I could think was..."I wish this was a social." It is horrible knowing that I am so attracted to a lady and I can't get her to bed. Should have gone to visit family as I had planned to do "So you went on a date with someone you met on a dating site and view it as a waste of time becaiuse you never got laid? Wonder how the woman feels about having wasted her time on you? | |||
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"I went on a pof date last night. My first in ages and I had to say yes as the lady was stunning. Nice chat but all I could think was..."I wish this was a social." It is horrible knowing that I am so attracted to a lady and I can't get her to bed. Should have gone to visit family as I had planned to do "Forgive me but isn't the point of socials that they don't involve getting into bed? Were your prospects of getting laid better at the family event? | |||
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As for the point of socials...surely they are to confirm there is a click/chemistry before you move on. But you know you are attracted to each other and, having a similar outlook, fun will follow. Even if not on that night. It just feels more natural for me.
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"I didn't want or expect to "get laid". That is my point. It doesn't really happen in the vanilla world...well,to me anyway
As for the point of socials...surely they are to confirm there is a click/chemistry before you move on. But you know you are attracted to each other and, having a similar outlook, fun will follow. Even if not on that night. It just feels more natural for me.
"So I'm not understanding you then because you have a social with someone and if it goes well then the next time you see them, you'll probably bang. You were on a date with the woman and if it went well then you'd see her again, which would eventually lead to a relationship and if you were in a relationship then you'd probably bang. Other than the relationship bit, what's the difference? | |||
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"I can't comment on the going away and trying to date normally but as someone who tried normal dating etc before joining here, it was bloody hard work, trying to find a human being out there that wanted to get to know you etc was very difficult, all the sites I joined (badoo, pof etc) were full of dudes just wanting sex, in 6 months of looking I found one guy who didn't want to fuck me straight away. You may have a better social circle than me though. Good luck xxx I had a look through POF and it struck me that nearly every woman on there was either unemployed, or doing a part time/low paid job. We got talking about it in work nearly every ones gf or wife (right up to our bosses) either doesn't work or does low paid part time work. I've done the whole "supporting" the other person thing and it does eventually tend to cause friction. Just seems like there are no women who pursue a career or technical job" I beg to differ here. I am on my own and even when I was with my husband I worked my arse off and paid most of the bills. U work upto 13 hours a day sometimes 7 days a week to build up my business and I am also on POF. Do not tar everyone with the same brush | |||
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"I didn't want or expect to "get laid". That is my point. It doesn't really happen in the vanilla world...well,to me anyway
As for the point of socials...surely they are to confirm there is a click/chemistry before you move on. But you know you are attracted to each other and, having a similar outlook, fun will follow. Even if not on that night. It just feels more natural for me.
So I'm not understanding you then because you have a social with someone and if it goes well then the next time you see them, you'll probably bang.
You were on a date with the woman and if it went well then you'd see her again, which would eventually lead to a relationship and if you were in a relationship then you'd probably bang.
Other than the relationship bit, what's the difference? "I don't want a relationship. | |||
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"I didn't want or expect to "get laid". That is my point. It doesn't really happen in the vanilla world...well,to me anyway
As for the point of socials...surely they are to confirm there is a click/chemistry before you move on. But you know you are attracted to each other and, having a similar outlook, fun will follow. Even if not on that night. It just feels more natural for me.
So I'm not understanding you then because you have a social with someone and if it goes well then the next time you see them, you'll probably bang.
You were on a date with the woman and if it went well then you'd see her again, which would eventually lead to a relationship and if you were in a relationship then you'd probably bang.
Other than the relationship bit, what's the difference?
I don't want a relationship. "Had you told the woman on the date that? | |||
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"Yes. I am very clear about this. She just said I should have a date because I hadn't had one on pof. I was clear and also told her about swinging on the date. " Fair enough. It makes sense now. I was going to ask why you were on a dating website if you don't want a relationship but there are people on fab who don't swing so it is what it is. | |||
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