FabSwingers.com mobile

Already registered?
Login here

Back to forum list
Back to The Lounge

Your views on the 5 Year NHS Plan

Jump to newest
 

By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

As you probably are not aware, the government is undertaking a public review and feedback exercise on its 5 year NHS plan. They haven't really promoted it, so I think it's likely you don't know about it.

The deadline is Monday 23rd November, when the month long feedback process ends.

My overarching principle for the NHS is for it to provide a comprehensive, universal, accessible, high quality service, according to clinical need not ability to pay. And mental health services should have equality with physical health services, by increasing funding and services for mental health services to the level of the best physical health services available in any part of England.

There are some standard questions on the feedback document, which you email back to them. It may pay to reduce the fie size of the attachment to your email, as there have been instances of them returning email rejections, saying 'mailbox full' etc.

Most of us care a great deal about the NHS but this exercise, where they'll say that they have the public mandate to implement changes, haven't been raised in parliament by Jeremy Hunt, since it went live: do you think they don't really want us to influence it?

There's a little information from the Healthwatch organisation, if you search for it online: I won't paste a link, as I think that would breach Fab's terms.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it basically say the NHS won't exist in 5 years?

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Does it basically say the NHS won't exist in 5 years?"

There are major mentions of financial targets in it, which could be an alternative way of saying the same thing S.

This link should be allowed, as it's a government website:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/472043/final_consultation_doc.pdf

The problem with them saying some things that are sort of OK is that it doesn't really give the whole picture. It covers 7 days access to your GP appointments, for example, and mentions a luke warm attempt at 'trying' to get more equality between mental and physical health services. In my opinion, if it's not equal, it's not a target that will be hit. Vague mentions like that are pretty useless imo. They should be stating specifically that appointment and service targets will be equal.

They have divorced the NHS one step further away from the Health Secretary, so it also helps him/her (and the government) from accepting full and complete blame for when things go wrong: this started with the Health & Social Care Act 2012, which the Conservatives pushed through, immediately after coming to power in the last government. Remember the "No frontline cuts", "no top-down NHS reorganisations", "no VAT rise" ... and then within weeks of government started the NHS reorganisation, which led to the above legislation?

It means some work on our behalf, trying to work out what they're really saying, as well as reading between the lines, to see what the implications could be, if they follow this plan. We have until late on Monday to send in our feedback, so I'm going to reflect and research on it over the weekend.

Our NHS is too precious to be mismanaged, and the nation's health is vital, as any people not getting the care that they need is just inappropriate. The fact that the government is doing this and it's hardly been whispered about, suggests that they're not interested in the public's views on it.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

[Removed by poster at 20/11/15 16:58:14]

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Here's a better link to the government's web page covering the feedback, 2015-6. Consultation ends this Monday, 23 November at 23.45pm.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/setting-the-mandate-to-nhs-england-for-2016-to-2017

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yay the NHS!

It's a good job we love a good queue in England, waiting lists then onto another waiting list....into A&E..seen and taken in swiftly...doctors referral to another hospital where they had the proper facilities...only to be refused admittance

Going private, best decision I made in a long time

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
Post new Message to Thread
back to top