FabSwingers.com forum: How safe do you feel, now?

By *artytwo OP Couple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Just been watching a thing on itv about Paris and the goings on.

How safe do FS people feel?

Have you made any changes, holidays? routes? itinerary's?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Went to London last night, didn't see any police about in the stations or on the street, didn't feel unsafe once

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I'm not changing any plans at all. Hypothetically speaking though, if I had been planning to go to Paris on the last couple of days or so, I might have reconsidered but would have decided to go anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel pretty damn safe, then again things would have to go VERY wrong for that to change.

Work makes me naturally cautious and sensitive to "stuff" that looks out of the ordinary, I'm reasonably aware.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. Won't change anything. Feel as safe as ever, just pays to be careful.

Daughter due to go to Paris with school and I did wonder about that, but can't wrap them in cotton wool.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"I feel pretty damn safe, then again things would have to go VERY wrong for that to change.

Work makes me naturally cautious and sensitive to "stuff" that looks out of the ordinary, I'm reasonably aware.

Then why do I keep finding things in the wrong shelf at Asda then?!!

be more aware and stack properly....

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By *rai69Man
over a year ago

Braintree

wont change a thing not going to let the scum win and not let me do what i want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't change my plans and not because of any 'stiff upper lip' shenanigans but because the chances are so remote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A work colleague is off to New York tomorrow and he is worried.

I work for a French company and all non essential travel to the HO in Paris is cancelled

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pretty damn safe really, should do considering where I live although it has imapacted on the daily lives of friends a bit for various reasons. But no, no extra precautions, changes etc, I don't feel the need to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just been watching a thing on itv about Paris and the goings on.

How safe do FS people feel?

Have you made any changes, holidays? routes? itinerary's?

Went over to Turkey last year to a place a lot of Syrians are leaving from to try and sale across to Greece, didn't bother me at all.. I stopped and used a translator on my phone to speak to a few of them, some seemed quite intimidating but one the language barrier had been broken down, I found out they were actually really nice people.. Coming from someone who used to have a view of kill them all..

They're so many different people in this world, we are not all going to get along! As soon as you get rid of/control Isis, another squad is just going to pop up.

We are all just puppets controlled by very wealthy powerful people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh, and I've also just booked to go back to the same place in Turkey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When your times up its up, you can be as careful as you can, change all your plans and get hit by a bus, may as well just get on with life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My friends son was supposed to be going a week tomorrow but the school has postponed it till march. I'd want my money back cos I wouldn't be sending my kid there. I know it's not safe anywhere for sure but at least if you're home you know your bearings and no chance of being stranded anywhere.

My mates only just managed to get back from Egypt and she should have been home 10 days ago, minus her luggage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very safe, but I live in the countryside - nothing worth blowing up. I wouldn't go into London if you paid me though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel pretty damn safe, then again things would have to go VERY wrong for that to change.

Work makes me naturally cautious and sensitive to "stuff" that looks out of the ordinary, I'm reasonably aware.

Then why do I keep finding things in the wrong shelf at Asda then?!!

be more aware and stack properly....

ASDA? How very working class.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel as safe now as I always did, parts of mainland Britain have been getting blown since before I was born so the threat of terrorism is just how it's always been.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I refuse to live in fear of what may happen. I will live every day how I normally would, I don't look at a rucksack/bag left at a bus stop and panic, I will just carry on with my day and do what needs doing.

If I was to worry about my daily activities, going on holiday, people around me etc then I may as well lock myself in my house and dig to create a cellar and remain there until I die.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I grew up in the RAF during the troubles and height of the IRA. My life has always features heavily armed military and being watchful of suspicious packages etc.

I feel no different to how I did last week and no travel plans will change.

Avoidance etc seems futile as it's the kind of attack that appears random to the average punter

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

double bagging french birds till further notice

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

You can go nowhere, stick to your comfort zone and still face a catastrophic event of some sort.

If we didn't take risks, experience new things and move out of our comfort zones we'd still be living in caves.

I feel safe. I was here in London dealing with 'stuff' during 7/7 and the riots in 2011. Apparently both things that should make us feel less safe. We still go about our daily business.

Evolve or die.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

we will pay for our continued messing in other peoples problems......how many IS people are already in Britain....this and past goverments will never learn.....we in Britain cant save the world and shit happens people die.....get over it.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I feel as safe now as I always did, parts of mainland Britain have been getting blown since before I was born so the threat of terrorism is just how it's always been."

You've reminded me of living in London in the 70s and 80s with the ring of steel around the City and being evacuated from buildings because of IRA bomb threats.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Feel pretty safe here, and we generally are. But we must not become complacent.

I would feel even safer if we banned the burka with immediate effect. And found a prime minister with the convictions of Churchill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Safe as we can be, never forgot the bombings here in the 70s and lived with it over the years.

Just be vigilant

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

One Nutcase in Tunisia - and the Tourist industry there has collapsed..

The Recent Events in Egypt and Paris - Will Put People Off going there !!

Cant Help but Wonder - What Touristy Place Will Be Next..

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Funnily enough the police were out in force today from when I was walking to work at 6.45am to when I left this evening....there were armed police and for some reason I felt incredibly safe....well it was only for one day as the queen was visiting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One Nutcase in Tunisia - and the Tourist industry there has collapsed..

The Recent Events in Egypt and Paris - Will Put People Off going there !!

Cant Help but Wonder - What Touristy Place Will Be Next..

Totally agree, if it's happens there recently surely it's less likely to happen again as suspicions are heightened?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I have no intention of changing my travel habits to accommodate lunatics. Of course, visiting other countries will start getting harder now - that tends to be the only thing that changes after every attack. But apart from that, I'll be visiting Paris, Marrakech, and other places as normal.

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By *onnybag69Man
over a year ago

Manchester

"Feel pretty safe here, and we generally are. But we must not become complacent.

I would feel even safer if we banned the burka with immediate effect. And found a prime minister with the convictions of Churchill. "
its a fact churchill wasn't a good prime minister and when war finished he was soon voted out of office

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel as safe as I felt last week, and the week before that, and the week before that.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel as safe as I felt last week, and the week before that, and the week before that.

-Courtney"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won't pretend it's not going to be in the back of my mind sometimes, like when I'm in London, but I'm not changing any of my plans. I'm pretty cautious and vigilant anyway, and will keep reporting rucksacks and stuff even if it pisses people off (although frankly if you're stupid enough to leave one unattended in the middle of King's Cross you deserve all the inconvenience coming to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think sometimes people forget we lived with the threat of terrorism in this country for forty years...

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I feel as safe as I felt last week, and the week before that, and the week before that.

-Courtney"

I'm not planning on a solo hill walking holiday to Syria anytime soon (I'd never have done this anyway) but I'm not changing my life in any way. I'll do my thing and if my time comes I'll shit myself like any normal person and know that I've had a hugely lucky life and have known love and happiness. I'd rather not check out sooner than I have to but I'm not living in fear. That's not a life.

For anyone.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I think sometimes people forget we lived with the threat of terrorism in this country for forty years..."

The so do. I was chatting to a fiend about this today. We didn't stop we kept going!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I think sometimes people forget we lived with the threat of terrorism in this country for forty years..."

this..

its a case of being a bit vigilant and getting on with life..

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By *dventureslayerMan
over a year ago

London

I've never felt safer, because each time something happens it raises awareness. People forget very quickly that the world is a dangerous place and that people want to do bad things. It's not all doom and gloom but people need to keep their heads on a swivel. Never forget those who are safe guarding your freedom.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I think sometimes people forget we lived with the threat of terrorism in this country for forty years...

The so do. I was chatting to a fiend about this today. We didn't stop we kept going!"

My spelling is unsafe

*They * friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel safe but imagine living in a place where your detached or semi detached home or whatever you lived in had been raised to the ground, would probably be the most awful thing imaginable to happen.

As a 50 something I don't think I could take up arms now but I'd sure be tempted to kick back, it's a bit late to do that. I normally get shot very quickly when paint balling as too slow and old to get down low. I just hope if my numbers up it's quick and pain free.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

As safe as ever, going to London for a week in December my grandson is going on his first aeroplane in December.

If I locked myself in the house an earthquake might get me

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By *onnybag69Man
over a year ago

Manchester

remember its not if its when

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Feel pretty safe here, and we generally are. But we must not become complacent.

I would feel even safer if we banned the burka with immediate effect. And found a prime minister with the convictions of Churchill. its a fact churchill wasn't a good prime minister and when war finished he was soon voted out of office"
Yeah but he sorted out the same kind of twats we're dealing with now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just been watching a thing on itv about Paris and the goings on.

How safe do FS people feel?

Have you made any changes, holidays? routes? itinerary's?

Well having lived with the threat of terrorism for year's due to the ira, people of a certain age like myself will revert back to previous practice of being more vigilant, taking more notice of thing's.

Back in the bad old days getting I was caught up in two bombblasts I, like many other's have been there before and kinda blasé about it.

However given that the UK has probably the largest network of cctv of pretty much anywhere, I feel safe in the knowledge that the civilian operator watching the screens in the control room will eventually with any luck notify the police in the event of an attack !!

In short no I don't feel safe, but I don't feel any less safe than I did in 70/80/90's working on military and police sites and Heathrow airport.also living in London village.

So I think the best we can do is be vigilant, report anything out of the ordinary, but just carry on as normal as I am certain that my employer will work me to an early grave long before any terrorist....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"remember its not if its when"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had planned on taking my children to Paris next year and now having a serious rethink

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the radio yesterday they were saying that schools have started cancelling trips to France, well fair enough that's understandable.

But some schools have cancelled trips within this country not even going to London or major cities.

The terrorists must be rubbing their hands together with glee at all the paranoia and panic. It's a war they appear to be winning. The media has alot to answer for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won't be taking my grandchildren into London this Christmas. Two people have already been arrested and charged of plotting to bomb Westfield or somewhere else nearby. I'm not gambling with children's lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Earlier this week Marc and I bought tickets to go to Paris next year. I absolutely can't wait. I am not nervous at all. They need our support.

-Courtney

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

All THIS TALK About growing up with the IRA.. !!

It Was Tough Times back then - and I got a Job on the Construction Site Of the Brighton Bombing's..

Only to See A Sign Saying !!

The IRA - Have Created More Jobs Than Maggie Thatcher Ever Did.. !!!

Am Sure Us Brits Can Laugh in the Face of Evil At Times..

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By *ornynwcplCouple
over a year ago

Preston

I feel as safe as I did this time last week. There's more chance of me dying on the commute to work tomorrow, than being caught up in some horrific act of terrorism. Live your life and enjoy it, you might as well be dead if you live in constant, almost irrational fear..

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I work at an airport, if something happens I just hope I am close enough not to be maimed.

I feel quite safe.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Am Sure Us Brits Can Laugh in the Face of Evil At Times..

I agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I refuse to live in fear of what may happen. I will live every day how I normally would, I don't look at a rucksack/bag left at a bus stop and panic, I will just carry on with my day and do what needs doing.

If I was to worry about my daily activities, going on holiday, people around me etc then I may as well lock myself in my house and dig to create a cellar and remain there until I die."

this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am Sure Us Brits Can Laugh in the Face of Evil At Times..

I agree

Well Kenny Everett always seemed to find the right phrase.

How did it go?

No not the one by cupid stunt, or sid snot.

The other one..

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

regardless of safe or unsafe,what will be will be,live life love freely have a ball because it all ends eventually guys x x x

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

With all the idiots on the roads,I feel less safe when driving than worrying about terrorists

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By *irtyAndCh33kyCouple
over a year ago

North Wales

I don't waste time thinking about it. I drive on average 800 miles a week. I'm type 2 diabetic & asthmatic. I've probably lived longer than I would've 100 years ago.

If we give the time to change our lives then the terrorists win

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm an Electrican, so have more chance of frying myself.. When the reaper knocks, you have to answer!

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

"When your times up its up, you can be as careful as you can, change all your plans and get hit by a bus, may as well just get on with life "

very true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

WE're all going to die. And we could all die tomorrow. We're all more likely to fall down our stairs or be in a fatal car crash than we are to die in a terrorist attack.

A life spent hiding to try and avoid a death that probably won't happen anyway is a waste of a life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of us remember the 70s when the IRA were regularly bombing mainland Britain.

ISIS is a picnic by comparison.

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By *ivinefoxWoman
over a year ago

Coventry

"Feel pretty safe here, and we generally are. But we must not become complacent.

I would feel even safer if we banned the burka with immediate effect. And found a prime minister with the convictions of Churchill. "

What good will banning the burkha do..??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I won't pretend it's not going to be in the back of my mind sometimes, like when I'm in London, but I'm not changing any of my plans. I'm pretty cautious and vigilant anyway, and will keep reporting rucksacks and stuff even if it pisses people off (although frankly if you're stupid enough to leave one unattended in the middle of King's Cross you deserve all the inconvenience coming to you

Happy to volunteer to look after you and keep you safe next time your in that London.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very safe; I'm not changing my ways for any terrorist! I'd go to Paris (or anywhere) tomorrow if i had the time (and money)!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not worried, I think a terrorist would stick out a mile in a swingers club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I were you (and of course you're glad you're not) I'd be more afraid of Drug resistant bacteria than any terrorist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like to compare it to sharks.

There have been more deaths with people taking selfies than shark attacks (where someone dies) this year

Yet so many people think we need to cull sharks.

Its what the media does best create fear, fear gives governments more control.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Feel pretty safe here, and we generally are. But we must not become complacent.

I would feel even safer if we banned the burka with immediate effect. And found a prime minister with the convictions of Churchill.

What good will banning the burkha do..??"

It's banned in France for several years and without meaning to sound flippant and certainly not meaning to disrespect the dead, but it doesn;t seem to have achieved much in the way of preventing terrorism there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like to compare it to sharks.

There have been more deaths with people taking selfies than shark attacks (where someone dies) this year

Yet so many people think we need to cull sharks.

Its what the media does best create fear, fear gives governments more control.

I was away to start talking about sharks and realised the past few threads I've commented on I have changed the subject massively, so I'll keep my trap, shut! Haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well they're now doing random vehicle searches on to the way into work.

I don't feel any safer (not that I felt unsafe before) just more annoyed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Universities would be the best places to hide out due to the introduction of "safe spaces".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Omg the media have landed here to god take life each day as it comes don't live in fear of what may or may never happen to you

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By *artytwo OP Couple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

So, anyone feel less safe now since Bruxelles or just the same as before?

Any change in plans?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I lived through the IRA bombings and carried on. I'll carry on now too

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

STOP

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

WE MUST NOT GIVE IN TO TERROR BY OVERREACTING

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

(In all following posts - panic, fear, horror, death, slaughter, apocalypse, Armageddon, help, we're all going to die!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, anyone feel less safe now since Bruxelles or just the same as before?

Any change in plans?"

Yes. Going on a flight for the first time in 16 years.

Nowt to do with anything other then the fact i need to get on a flight though.

i wont make or change plans based on what's been in the news

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By *artytwo OP Couple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Shit, are you sure? You're right, let's look on the bright side.

Every cloud has a cloudy lining.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"STOP"

Ah fuck off Joe, I'm sure I can source some Aldi vegetables....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel very safe.... I'm under a quilt and I have headphones on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have had to cancel a holiday to Costa del Sol because we were flying via Brussels and there were no flights out of there. Otherwise, no changes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"WE MUST NOT GIVE IN TO TERROR BY OVERREACTING"
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Bollocks, we all fucking know as soon as those lights go off, were all back to hacking each other's heads off in the name of the supernatural!.... You know it, I know it and everybody in charge knows it!

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one he said....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As safe as ever you can still get stabbed by a hoodie there is more chance of getting attacked if you a Muslim in certain areas

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I feel as safe as I felt last week, and the week before that, and the week before that.

-Courtney

For anyone. "

This still stands.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, anyone feel less safe now since Bruxelles or just the same as before?

Any change in plans?"

I feel great. Still looking forward to my trip to Paris in July.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

There's probably more chance of being hit by a car than anything else so it's all good with me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A runner got hospitalised after being attacked by a dog about a mile from me at the weekend. I'm more worried about that dog than I am terrorists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was going to go down to London over Easter to see my dad and take the kids to the museums. My dad was worried enough to ask me to leave it a bit.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

Biggest threat to this country is the shoddy, inept, corrupt and delvisive governments we've suffered for the last 20 years. Now there's a bunch of terrorists who will impact your life more than any religious crazy with a gun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I went to Morocco not long after 9/11; and the Red Sea, Egypt, after other incidents.

Lived in London whilst the IRA were bombing and so on.

It's not going to change me or the way I want to live.

Looking to book all inclusive holidays this summer in Turkey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Biggest threat to this country is the shoddy, inept, corrupt and delvisive governments we've suffered for the last 20 years. Now there's a bunch of terrorists who will impact your life more than any religious crazy with a gun

What about [possible but unconfirmed] religious crazies with [fake] suicide vests?!

We've been trained to be scared.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yesh it does make me think twice about arranging things but I'm not looking to change any of my plans.

Mind you I'm the same after watching Air Crash Investigation, puts me off flying for a few days afterwards.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

I lived in the US when 9/11 took place and felt distinctly unsafe there for many years, including the flight back to London, where security was such that you had to be in the airport four hours before the flight... not fun with three under fives. How I feel right now, compared to then, safe .... as panic and anxiety spread like wildfire at times like this. What alternative do you have, though, you have to live your life.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

What about [possible but unconfirmed] religious crazies with [fake] suicide vests?!

We've been trained to be scared.

I'd agree with that Courtney. I don't feel scared for myself but I do feel fear for my loved ones, I know this isn't rational but there you have it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won't be changing my plans .Off to Spain in 4 weeks and Madagascar in 4 months.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I won't be changing my plans .Off to Spain in 4 weeks and Madagascar in 4 months.

You've more to fear from spiders

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I won't be changing my plans .Off to Spain in 4 weeks and Madagascar in 4 months.

You've more to fear from spiders

I know. They're as big as tea mugs!!!

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

EU REFERENDUM

Where the rival camps stand on all the issues...

No. 94 - THE TERRORIST THREAT

LEAVE - The horrifying and tragic events in Brussels make it clearer than ever that, in order to avoid such a disaster happening here in Britain, we must take back control of our borders and leave the EU as soon as possible.

REMAIN - The horrifying and tragic events in Brussels make it clearer than ever that, in order to avoid such a disaster happening here in Britain, we must remain solidly with our European partners against a common enemy and stay in the EU for ever.

No. 95 - PLAYING POLITICS WITH THE TERRORIST THREAT

LEAVE - It would be a grotesque display of opportunism to use the tragic events in Brussels as a way of making an argument for leaving the EU. We are against this and it is this sort of offensive tactic that only the Remain group would employ.

REMAIN - It would be a grotesque display of opportunism to use the tragic events in Brussels as a way of making an argument for leaving the EU. We are against this and it is this sort of offensive tactic that only the Leave group would employ.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I feel very safe because I'm in the historic dockyard at Portsmouth and because it's on heightened security (although no one checked my pants*) there are loads of security men about and a navy ship called HMS Diamond in dock.

*weapon of mass orgasm

Reminds me of 'Marathon Man': "is it safe?.......is it safe?.......*drills*......is it safe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you lot for real!, i mean you've changed everything you've done, you queue at airports for hours you go through naked body scanners, strip searched, toothpaste tubes an inch long, have your laptop's dismantled, you agree to all your data to be collected, your emails read, your phone conversations listened to, legal rights squashed and you never dare question authority...

Ah but folks are still shopping and buying shit, were still holidaying in Turkey... well that's great we've still beating them terrorists then

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Are you lot for real!, i mean you've changed everything you've done, you queue at airports for hours you go through naked body scanners, strip searched, toothpaste tubes an inch long, have your laptop's dismantled, you agree to all your data to be collected, your emails read, your phone conversations listened to, legal rights squashed and you never dare question authority...

Ah but folks are still shopping and buying shit, were still holidaying in Turkey... well that's great we've still beating them terrorists then

I guess I choose not to lose sleep over someone reading the shite in my emails or the fact that I can't take a giant tube of toothpaste on a plane.

I've never fancied Turkey though. Except at Christmas. On a plate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just been watching a thing on itv about Paris and the goings on.

How safe do FS people feel?

Have you made any changes, holidays? routes? itinerary's?

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my daughter was in Brussels the day before the bombings but how the hell can you account for what these mentally deranged people do, so I for one don't do anything different from normal but then I have no interest in going to middle eastern countries or any areas where their is conflict

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Today in Scotland;

Police Scotland is to investigate alleged links between two prominent Muslim leaders and a banned sectarian group in Pakistan.

A BBC investigation has found that Sabir Ali, head of religious events at Glasgow Central Mosque, was president of Sipah-e-Sahaba (SSP).

This is a political party now proscribed by the Home Office.

Links to the group have also been made to Hafiz Abdul Hamid from the Polwarth Mosque in Edinburgh.

Glasgow Central Mosque said it would not remove Mr Ali from his role until the links were proved.

.The BBC has obtained evidence that both men continued to be involved with the organisation after it was banned in the UK in 2001.

It is not clear whether the two men are still involved.

Sipah-e-Sahaba is a militant anti-Shia political party formed in Pakistan in the 1980s.

The group and its armed off-shoot, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), have accepted responsibility for deadly sectarian attacks against Shia Muslims and other religious minorities in Pakistan.

It has links to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda and was banned by the Home Office in 2001 - and in Pakistan one year later.

Donations from abroad are believed to be a key funding source of SSP.

Sabir Ali, also known as Chaudhry Sabir Ali, is a member of the executive committee at Glasgow Central Mosque - Scotland's largest - where Sunni Muslims of Pakistani origin are the largest group.

He has held the position of Ishat-e-Islam, or leader of religious events, for a number of years, making him a key link between the Imams and the mosque community.

Documents obtained by the BBC list him as "President of SSP Scotland".

In October 2003, after the group was banned, an article in Khalifat-e-Rashida describes a memorial service at Glasgow Central Mosque for the former leader and co-founder of SSP, Azam Tariq, who had been assassinated in Pakistan that same month.

At the meeting, the magazine says, a man named Chaudhry Sabir told those attending that Azam Tariq had "won the hearts of the Muslim world" and that "the enemies of Islam killed him" before vowing to continue his mission

so?

Why should we be scared??????

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