FabSwingers.com forum: Haram

By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

Would like a knowledgeable person to explain to me how Haram is used and defined in dealing with sexual issues, bi/ gay and the fluid genders.

Also is it ok to be a Transsexual in a muslin _iew, Sunni/Shia.

Cannot seem to find anyone willing to enlighten me, have read online muslin chat boards but they are quite negitive about this I find, looking for a positive spin on the definition of the word and it's social implications.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Obvious troll bait is obvious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obvious troll bait is obvious "

Obviously

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Obvious troll bait is obvious "

Why do you say that...?

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Obviously

Why is it, do you know something I do not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Never heard of it.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Strained a duet pudding through muslin once

C...

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Would like a knowledgeable person to explain to me how Haram is used and defined in dealing with sexual issues, bi/ gay and the fluid genders.

Also is it ok to be a Transsexual in a muslin _iew, Sunni/Shia.

perhaps ask an Imam rather than a bunch of google informed strangers on an internet swinging/sex site?

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How Gay Is Pakistan? On BBC3 dealt with these issues.

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Would like a knowledgeable person to explain to me how Haram is used and defined in dealing with sexual issues, bi/ gay and the fluid genders.

Also is it ok to be a Transsexual in a muslin _iew, Sunni/Shia.

perhaps ask an Imam rather than a bunch of google informed strangers on an internet swinging/sex site?"

I can post what I like...yes

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

It seems a fair question to ask, I don't know the answers you seek but I hope you get them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue."

Ahh here we go building up to "zomg the Muslims are going to kill me"

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue.

Ahh here we go building up to "zomg the Muslims are going to kill me""

Now who is trolling?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue."

Why would your safety be an issue?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Might suffocate under the muslin

C...

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue.

Why would your safety be an issue? "

Being a TS female just brings alsorts of questions to the forefront, seeing my couminity radically changing and with such strong influances in law and culture the new wave of religious overtones set out seem to be to me anyhow very threatening.

My local neighborhood is very multicultural and finding my way througth daily life without upsetting cultural beliefs is quite hard to fathem, Haram that is.

And when I ask questions about this dilemma I get attacked like some kind of troll,why is this issue "Haram" so secret.

No one debates it, such a shame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue.

Why would your safety be an issue?

My local neighborhood is very multicultural and finding my way througth daily life without upsetting cultural beliefs is quite hard to fathem, Haram that is.

And when I ask questions about this dilemma I get attacked like some kind of troll,why is this issue "Haram" so secret.

No one debates it, such a shame."

You've posted a few times about safety (being attacked walking home from nights out, IIRC). Perhaps you should talk to someone properly about these concerns, instead of this forum.

It's clearly bothering you more than it ought to.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I don't believe it is considered Haram but Iran takes a different _iew on trans people.

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue.

Why would your safety be an issue?

My local neighborhood is very multicultural and finding my way througth daily life without upsetting cultural beliefs is quite hard to fathem, Haram that is.

And when I ask questions about this dilemma I get attacked like some kind of troll,why is this issue "Haram" so secret.

No one debates it, such a shame.

You've posted a few times about safety (being attacked walking home from nights out, IIRC). Perhaps you should talk to someone properly about these concerns, instead of this forum.

It's clearly bothering you more than it ought to. "

I see, so having looked into my previous posts to profile me, possibly intimidate that gives you the right to close me down, your a scary person to do that.

Work for a government agency or its affiliates do you ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue.

Why would your safety be an issue?

My local neighborhood is very multicultural and finding my way througth daily life without upsetting cultural beliefs is quite hard to fathem, Haram that is.

And when I ask questions about this dilemma I get attacked like some kind of troll,why is this issue "Haram" so secret.

No one debates it, such a shame.

You've posted a few times about safety (being attacked walking home from nights out, IIRC). Perhaps you should talk to someone properly about these concerns, instead of this forum.

It's clearly bothering you more than it ought to.

I see, so having looked into my previous posts to profile me, possibly intimidate that gives you the right to close me down, your a scary person to do that.

Work for a government agency or its affiliates do you ?"

Well, no - I just remember.

I definitely think it's worth you talking to someone now though

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"I don't believe it is considered Haram but Iran takes a different _iew on trans people.

Iran forces gay men to have sex changes or hang..

Gay men do not want to be female and become Street prostitutes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't believe it is considered Haram but Iran takes a different _iew on trans people.

Iran forces gay men to have sex changes or hang..

Gay men do not want to be female and become Street prostitutes

You don't live in Iran.

Or any Muslim country

Or a country with any chance what's ever of ever implimenting laws based on Islam.

So this seems rather ridiculous.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I don't believe it is considered Haram but Iran takes a different _iew on trans people.

Iran forces gay men to have sex changes or hang..

Gay men do not want to be female and become Street prostitutes

I agree, it's not great but it takes a "sinful" activity out of the Haram list.

I know no more than that.

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue.

Why would your safety be an issue?

My local neighborhood is very multicultural and finding my way througth daily life without upsetting cultural beliefs is quite hard to fathem, Haram that is.

And when I ask questions about this dilemma I get attacked like some kind of troll,why is this issue "Haram" so secret.

No one debates it, such a shame.

You've posted a few times about safety (being attacked walking home from nights out, IIRC). Perhaps you should talk to someone properly about these concerns, instead of this forum.

It's clearly bothering you more than it ought to.

I see, so having looked into my previous posts to profile me, possibly intimidate that gives you the right to close me down, your a scary person to do that.

Work for a government agency or its affiliates do you ?

Well, no - I just remember.

I definitely think it's worth you talking to someone now though

Nice try, no really.

If I cannot raise a debate without being attacked for it then it means something is very wrong and sympathers help spread misconceptions about religious activities, so let's have a debate without personal accusations as that is quite low and something psychopaths do.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

I'm not quite sure I follow either OP.

Isn't 'Haram' simply analogous to the christian 'sin'?

You are post-op, so aren't you simply a straight woman now?

Asking "what is the muslim _iew" is a bit like asking "what is the Catholic _iew on, eg contraception". The fact is that the Pope's _iew differs from the practical _iew of most practising Catholics, as will be the case with muslims.

If you are asking "am I safe?", I'd have thought you were just as, if not more, likely to find trouble from an uneducated white 'christian' type.

Education is the issue, not the religion, imho

Mr ddc

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"I don't believe it is considered Haram but Iran takes a different _iew on trans people.

Iran forces gay men to have sex changes or hang..

Gay men do not want to be female and become Street prostitutes

You don't live in Iran.

Or any Muslim country

Or a country with any chance what's ever of ever implimenting laws based on Islam.

So this seems rather ridiculous."

So Sharia law is not a issue in the UK then, you Mr do not speak for the population of the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue.

Why would your safety be an issue?

My local neighborhood is very multicultural and finding my way througth daily life without upsetting cultural beliefs is quite hard to fathem, Haram that is.

And when I ask questions about this dilemma I get attacked like some kind of troll,why is this issue "Haram" so secret.

No one debates it, such a shame.

You've posted a few times about safety (being attacked walking home from nights out, IIRC). Perhaps you should talk to someone properly about these concerns, instead of this forum.

It's clearly bothering you more than it ought to.

I see, so having looked into my previous posts to profile me, possibly intimidate that gives you the right to close me down, your a scary person to do that.

Work for a government agency or its affiliates do you ?

Well, no - I just remember.

I definitely think it's worth you talking to someone now though

Nice try, no really.

It's not a personal attack, but you're clearly overly sensitive. I posted as you have raised concerns about your safety and now are worried about potential problems that haven't even occurred. To me, that's not a great quality of life and thought it's something you should try to deal with.

It's a shame you consider constructive advice attacks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue."

You're never going to win this battle, let alone a war. Give up and just move to a friendlier area. There are still a few left.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

According to the scholar and hadith collector An-Nawawi:

A mukhannath is the one ("male") who carries in his movements, in his appearance and in his language the characteristics of a woman. There are two types; the first is the one in whom these characteristics are innate, he did not put them on by himself, and therein is no guilt, no blame and no shame, as long as he does not perform any (illicit) act or exploit it for money (prostitution etc.). The second type acts like a woman out of immoral purposes and he is the sinner and blameworthy.[3]....

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In the current era, scholars in Iran and Egypt have issued fatwas supporting the right for those who fit the description of Mukhannathun to have sex reassignment surgery.[citation needed] In Pakistan to this day, there live hijras. The Muslim Hijras have been known to refer to themselves as Mukhannathun when speaking Arabic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue.

Why would your safety be an issue?

My local neighborhood is very multicultural and finding my way througth daily life without upsetting cultural beliefs is quite hard to fathem, Haram that is.

And when I ask questions about this dilemma I get attacked like some kind of troll,why is this issue "Haram" so secret.

No one debates it, such a shame.

You've posted a few times about safety (being attacked walking home from nights out, IIRC). Perhaps you should talk to someone properly about these concerns, instead of this forum.

It's clearly bothering you more than it ought to.

I see, so having looked into my previous posts to profile me, possibly intimidate that gives you the right to close me down, your a scary person to do that.

Work for a government agency or its affiliates do you ?

Well, no - I just remember.

I definitely think it's worth you talking to someone now though

Nice try, no really.

So what's accusing people of being psychopaths?

If not a personal accusation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't believe it is considered Haram but Iran takes a different _iew on trans people.

Iran forces gay men to have sex changes or hang..

Gay men do not want to be female and become Street prostitutes

You don't live in Iran.

Or any Muslim country

Or a country with any chance what's ever of ever implimenting laws based on Islam.

So this seems rather ridiculous.

So Sharia law is not a issue in the UK then, you Mr do not speak for the population of the UK. "

No it is not an issue in the UK at all.

No bill amendment or any official price of legislation has ever a tempted to impliment sharia law.

Nor has any member of parliament even suggest such a legislation.

So yes I feel utterly confident in saying that we will not have sharia law in this country.

To put it in perspective the UK Muslim population is about 4.5% slightly less than the estimated gay population percentage

So there's about as much chance of sharia law as the gays banning people being straight

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"According to the scholar and hadith collector An-Nawawi:

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Thanks, so on my journeys across the Internet I see again and again the calling for the irradiation of anyone who wishes to change sex as only gods hand can decide who is male/female, it is classed as a sin.

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"I don't believe it is considered Haram but Iran takes a different _iew on trans people.

Iran forces gay men to have sex changes or hang..

Gay men do not want to be female and become Street prostitutes

You don't live in Iran.

Or any Muslim country

Or a country with any chance what's ever of ever implimenting laws based on Islam.

So this seems rather ridiculous.

So Sharia law is not a issue in the UK then, you Mr do not speak for the population of the UK.

No it is not an issue in the UK at all.

No bill amendment or any official price of legislation has ever a tempted to impliment sharia law.

Nor has any member of parliament even suggest such a legislation.

So yes I feel utterly confident in saying that we will not have sharia law in this country.

To put it in perspective the UK Muslim population is about 4.5% slightly less than the estimated gay population percentage

So there's about as much chance of sharia law as the gays banning people being straight"

It is in use in UK now so just stop your mistrustful ways.

Islamic law is adopted by British legal chefs. Daily telegraph.

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Obvious troll bait is obvious

Why do you say that...?

Seriously.

OK serious answer no abrhamic religion sports homosexuality.

Transgender/genderfluid/buzzword of the week/etc didn't exist back then so obviously they do not have any reference to it whatsoever

So yeah of you want serious advice you'll have to pop to your local mosque and ask the scholar if there's any relevant fatwas.

Why is this question being met with such hostility,I only ask so my future safety in the local community will not conflict with others _iews,just seeing how I may address the issue.

Why would your safety be an issue?

My local neighborhood is very multicultural and finding my way througth daily life without upsetting cultural beliefs is quite hard to fathem, Haram that is.

And when I ask questions about this dilemma I get attacked like some kind of troll,why is this issue "Haram" so secret.

No one debates it, such a shame.

You've posted a few times about safety (being attacked walking home from nights out, IIRC). Perhaps you should talk to someone properly about these concerns, instead of this forum.

It's clearly bothering you more than it ought to.

I see, so having looked into my previous posts to profile me, possibly intimidate that gives you the right to close me down, your a scary person to do that.

Work for a government agency or its affiliates do you ?

Well, no - I just remember.

I definitely think it's worth you talking to someone now though

Nice try, no really.

So what's accusing people of being psychopaths?

If not a personal accusation

If you attack me in a nice way 0_o I will show you how you appear to others when you apply your form of branding to win your point.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Islamic law is adopted by British legal chefs. Daily telegraph. "

I wouldn't eat anything cooked by a Daily Telegraph chef, British or otherwise...

OP, you get the debate you wish on the internet, if you don't desire a sensible one, I'm out, sorry.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"I don't believe it is considered Haram but Iran takes a different _iew on trans people.

Iran forces gay men to have sex changes or hang..

Gay men do not want to be female and become Street prostitutes

You don't live in Iran.

Or any Muslim country

Or a country with any chance what's ever of ever implimenting laws based on Islam.

So this seems rather ridiculous.

So Sharia law is not a issue in the UK then, you Mr do not speak for the population of the UK.

No it is not an issue in the UK at all.

No bill amendment or any official price of legislation has ever a tempted to impliment sharia law.

Nor has any member of parliament even suggest such a legislation.

So yes I feel utterly confident in saying that we will not have sharia law in this country.

To put it in perspective the UK Muslim population is about 4.5% slightly less than the estimated gay population percentage

So there's about as much chance of sharia law as the gays banning people being straight

It is in use in UK now so just stop your mistrustful ways.

Islamic law is adopted by British legal chefs. Daily telegraph."

Chefs don't really make laws.

Also saying something does not make it true.

If you believe the shit you read in the papers, especially papers written with a clear ulterior motive without questioning it then you will be likely to succumb to this sort of bullshit.

Sharia law does not exist in the UK legal system. That is a simple fact and there need be no more idiotic bigotry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They do mention sharia law in the U.K. . It quite clearly states Muslims taking dogs in taxis is not against sharoa law

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't believe it is considered Haram but Iran takes a different _iew on trans people.

Iran forces gay men to have sex changes or hang..

Gay men do not want to be female and become Street prostitutes

You don't live in Iran.

Or any Muslim country

Or a country with any chance what's ever of ever implimenting laws based on Islam.

So this seems rather ridiculous.

So Sharia law is not a issue in the UK then, you Mr do not speak for the population of the UK.

No it is not an issue in the UK at all.

No bill amendment or any official price of legislation has ever a tempted to impliment sharia law.

Nor has any member of parliament even suggest such a legislation.

So yes I feel utterly confident in saying that we will not have sharia law in this country.

To put it in perspective the UK Muslim population is about 4.5% slightly less than the estimated gay population percentage

So there's about as much chance of sharia law as the gays banning people being straight

It is in use in UK now so just stop your mistrustful ways.

Islamic law is adopted by British legal chefs. Daily telegraph."

Haha you're talking about arbitration.

It's not law.

Stop your lying ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's face it you picked today after the recent events to post this stupid topic hoping to drag up a bunch of anti Islamic sentiment.

It's not gone that way because most people aren't hateful bigots.

Now you're throwing your toys out the pram accusing people of being psychopaths for telling you to go speak to an Islamic scholar and now you're attempting to misrepresent that we have sharia law in the UK.

Have some respect for the recent events and leave your hate for another day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least as a trans over there you don't need to worry about facial electrolysis or shaving anywhere really as the burka covers it up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't believe it is considered Haram but Iran takes a different _iew on trans people.

Iran forces gay men to have sex changes or hang..

Gay men do not want to be female and become Street prostitutes

You don't live in Iran.

Or any Muslim country

Or a country with any chance what's ever of ever implimenting laws based on Islam.

So this seems rather ridiculous.

So Sharia law is not a issue in the UK then, you Mr do not speak for the population of the UK. "
but why do you think you will come under sharia law? You live in the UK I've spent much of the last 5 years in the middle east and there is lots of prostitution including call boys didn't see them having any problems when muslims come to the UK they come under UK law just like anyone else

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Let's face it you picked today after the recent events to post this stupid topic hoping to drag up a bunch of anti Islamic sentiment.

It's not gone that way because most people aren't hateful bigots.

Have some respect for the recent events and leave your hate for another day"

Having read the thread it's hard not to agree in total with this..

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Not read the whole thread but can imagine it's was just to cause an argument.

If someone is now a woman why on earth would anyone in the street have to know?

The only fear should be the usual ones woman might have.

Unless you intned to go up to people and tell them just for the lols?

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Not read the whole thread but can imagine it's was just to cause an argument.

If someone is now a woman why on earth would anyone in the street have to know?

The only fear should be the usual ones woman might have.

Unless you intned to go up to people and tell them just for the lols?"

I know you do not like me, we have been on other posts on fab, I do not care much for your ways either

It's a tad hypriticol to attack people then go straight to another post looking like butter would not melt in your mouth..Don'the make opinions without reading all the post, just says what you think about me alone really.

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Let's face it you picked today after the recent events to post this stupid topic hoping to drag up a bunch of anti Islamic sentiment.

It's not gone that way because most people aren't hateful bigots.

Have some respect for the recent events and leave your hate for another day"

Egotistical and a propergandist it is not I that is a deciver.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Would like a knowledgeable person to explain to me how Haram is used and defined in dealing with sexual issues, bi/ gay and the fluid genders.

Also is it ok to be a Transsexual in a muslin _iew, Sunni/Shia.

perhaps ask an Imam rather than a bunch of google informed strangers on an internet swinging/sex site?

I can post what I like...yes

i said otherwise...no

was merely suggesting a sure fire way of getting the correct answer to your question. i'd wager that there are not that many of us on here who know Shia or Sunni law well enough to put your mind at rest regarding this issue.

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Let's face it you picked today after the recent events to post this stupid topic hoping to drag up a bunch of anti Islamic sentiment.

It's not gone that way because most people aren't hateful bigots.

Have some respect for the recent events and leave your hate for another day

Having read the thread it's hard not to agree in total with this.."

So asking a mere question and being attacked is okay...

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By *irce OP Woman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"At least as a trans over there you don't need to worry about facial electrolysis or shaving anywhere really as the burka covers it up

Lol, thanks.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Let's face it you picked today after the recent events to post this stupid topic hoping to drag up a bunch of anti Islamic sentiment.

It's not gone that way because most people aren't hateful bigots.

Have some respect for the recent events and leave your hate for another day

Having read the thread it's hard not to agree in total with this..

So asking a mere question and being attacked is okay...

when were you attacked?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How will these Muslim people know you have had a sex change?

If you are attacked in the UK for any reason the law is on your side,regardless of your gender or attire.

If you feel you are in an unsafe area,don't go out alone. I wouldn't. I don't know what it's like in your area or why you don't feel safe so it's difficult to comment.

Sharia Law is only used by Muslim courts between themselves. You don't have to abide by it. Muslims have to abide by our laws.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's face it you picked today after the recent events to post this stupid topic hoping to drag up a bunch of anti Islamic sentiment.

It's not gone that way because most people aren't hateful bigots.

Have some respect for the recent events and leave your hate for another day

Egotistical and a propergandist it is not I that is a deciver."

It's not the middle ages speak English.

Also you just blatantly and knowingly lied saying sharia law was part of UK law .

You've got some wrid chip on your shoulder about Muslims and your usual persecution complex where you're desperate for the attention of being a victim if it helps you I know Muslim trans people one has even come out to her family and the community there was some tension but no violence or harm.

So if you really want to know go discuss this with your local Islamic scholar

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Let's face it you picked today after the recent events to post this stupid topic hoping to drag up a bunch of anti Islamic sentiment.

It's not gone that way because most people aren't hateful bigots.

Have some respect for the recent events and leave your hate for another day

Having read the thread it's hard not to agree in total with this..

So asking a mere question and being attacked is okay...

You have not been 'attacked', your opinion has been challenged and as said by others your answer is to get personal and now play the victim which you are not..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How will these Muslim people know you have had a sex change?

If you are attacked in the UK for any reason the law is on your side,regardless of your gender or attire.

If you feel you are in an unsafe area,don't go out alone. I wouldn't. I don't know what it's like in your area or why you don't feel safe so it's difficult to comment.

Sharia Law is only used by Muslim courts between themselves. You don't have to abide by it. Muslims have to abide by our laws. "

You can have all sorts of rules for arbitration ( which is voluntary )

I imagine it won't belong till we have a codified jedi system for arbitration given they're the fastest growing religion I'm the country

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"How will these Muslim people know you have had a sex change?

If you are attacked in the UK for any reason the law is on your side,regardless of your gender or attire.

If you feel you are in an unsafe area,don't go out alone. I wouldn't. I don't know what it's like in your area or why you don't feel safe so it's difficult to comment.

Sharia Law is only used by Muslim courts between themselves. You don't have to abide by it. Muslims have to abide by our laws.

You can have all sorts of rules for arbitration ( which is voluntary )

I imagine it won't belong till we have a codified jedi system for arbitration given they're the fastest growing religion I'm the country "

Now Jedi is a religion which has a real dark side.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Would like a knowledgeable person to explain to me how Haram is used and defined in dealing with sexual issues, bi/ gay and the fluid genders.

Also is it ok to be a Transsexual in a muslin _iew, Sunni/Shia.

I really don't think people care that much either.

Folks of all backgrounds do get rather tired and bored of people who have a particular gender drum to bang when they go on and on and on about a topic which really is quite dull and not anyone's business unless someone makes it so.

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