FabSwingers.com forum: Re: Paris

By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

My dad sent me this today, and I thought I would share it with you.

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I'm not a religious man but I agree with the sentiment.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

I've shared this on FB.

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"I've shared this on FB. "

Yep - he's on Facebook, I don't, personally

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By *eliciousladyWoman
over a year ago

Sometimes U.K

I echo your sentiments

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I agree

these 120 people will be forgotten by the masses in the the same way as the 100's of thousands of innocent people being killed in their homelands.........

only their immediate families will grieve over the long term.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't cry for much, but thinking about the state of affairs in recent years has made me cry.

I don't know where we all go from here. But violence is making the fog thicker.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Amen x

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Amen x"

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By *eltonmanMan
over a year ago

Melton Mowbray

agree with this. Things are getting worse all over the world, and yet we concentrate on a small area

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I sincerely believe that the threat to our nation, or even the Western world, doesn't come from terrorist fucks but how we respond to them.

They can't kill us all but we can trade liberty for 'security' without thinking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The sad thing is,try as we might,we can't make the world better.

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"The sad thing is,try as we might,we can't make the world better. "

And now is precisely the moment to stand firm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I sincerely believe that the threat to our nation, or even the Western world, doesn't come from terrorist fucks but how we respond to them.

They can't kill us all but we can trade liberty for 'security' without thinking. "

I'm going to get shit for saying this, but take a look at the Jihadi John thread to see our civilized reaction to terrorists.

We contribute to our own problems in this world.

-Courtney

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"I sincerely believe that the threat to our nation, or even the Western world, doesn't come from terrorist fucks but how we respond to them.

They can't kill us all but we can trade liberty for 'security' without thinking.

I'm going to get shit for saying this, but take a look at the Jihadi John thread to see our civilized reaction to terrorists.

We contribute to our own problems in this world.

-Courtney

I didn't see but I'm sure it was dreadful, full of jeering and baying for blood.

I like how the Pentagon spokesperson said Jihadi John had been 'eviscerated' and that it had been a 'clean strike'.

However they knew?

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Do you know what would sort this mess out?

A good, old-fashioned imperial carve up. A proper one, coloured maps and everything. Stick a few local strong men in...

Sorted.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

There will always be hate, there will always be people who will kill and destroy, there will always be people who........

There will always be kindness and love, we need to remember that.

and we are no different, there are hate crimes happen in the UK, there is hatred on the football terraces.

There will always be kindness and love, we need to remember that......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My dad sent me this today, and I thought I would share it with you.

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Praying isnt going to stop these evil bastards, its about time we stood up to them and played them at theyre own game they want to die for alllah well lets fucking help them get there faster

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Praying isnt going to stop these evil bastards, its about time we stood up to them and played them at theyre own game they want to die for alllah well lets fucking help them get there faster"

People said the same thing in the US after 9/11.

We live the consequences of those sentiments every day. As do the people in Iraq, Yemen, Pakistan, Libya...the list goes on.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The sad thing is,try as we might,we can't make the world better.

And now is precisely the moment to stand firm "

Lots of voices that are heard and ignored? Politicians giving us other things to worry about. More "important" things that takes our minds off of the fact they aren't doing everything they could be. Our Government sides with whomsoever is holding the aces. China is becoming our new best friend. We'll soon be snapping at it's heels,begging for a pat on the head and a bone to chew on. I'm digressing but the world super powers have no intentions of making the world peaceful. They need us to hate each other.

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By *ratty_DamselWoman
over a year ago

London.

"My dad sent me this today, and I thought I would share it with you.

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

Spot on....

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Again, not that atrocities are comparable but the US-led coalition in Yemen mistakenly bombed a wedding party, killing 130+ people at the end of September.

The Pentagon's admission that it was deffo the wrong target went without nery a mention.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/29/suspected-air-strikes-kills-131-after-landing-on-yemeni-wedding-party-5412800/

Or the shit going on in Syria (mass grave of 83 Yazidi women was discovered today) or Iraq, or or or...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

defo food for thought

i feel bad for any innocents that lose their lives though

i cant know of every atrocity that goes on in the world to spare them a thought. but the ones i do get my sympathy

jihadi john was no innocent so im not gonna feel bad for feeling some relief and justice he got smoked

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"defo food for thought

i feel bad for any innocents that lose their lives though

i cant know of every atrocity that goes on in the world to spare them a thought. but the ones i do get my sympathy

jihadi john was no innocent so im not gonna feel bad for feeling some relief and justice he got smoked"

The assassination of Jihadi John means precisely zip in this context

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Again, not that atrocities are comparable but the US-led coalition in Yemen mistakenly bombed a wedding party, killing 130+ people at the end of September.

The Pentagon's admission that it was deffo the wrong target went without nery a mention.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/29/suspected-air-strikes-kills-131-after-landing-on-yemeni-wedding-party-5412800/

Or the shit going on in Syria (mass grave of 83 Yazidi women was discovered today) or Iraq, or or or..."
I thought it was the Saudi led coalition bombing Yemen?

Can't keep up with all the bombing.

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Again, not that atrocities are comparable but the US-led coalition in Yemen mistakenly bombed a wedding party, killing 130+ people at the end of September.

The Pentagon's admission that it was deffo the wrong target went without nery a mention.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/29/suspected-air-strikes-kills-131-after-landing-on-yemeni-wedding-party-5412800/

Or the shit going on in Syria (mass grave of 83 Yazidi women was discovered today) or Iraq, or or or... I thought it was the Saudi led coalition bombing Yemen?

Can't keep up with all the bombing. "

There are a lot of bombs going off.

The point is that if they're brown people, we tend not to worry. If they're white people, we shit our pants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Again, not that atrocities are comparable but the US-led coalition in Yemen mistakenly bombed a wedding party, killing 130+ people at the end of September.

The Pentagon's admission that it was deffo the wrong target went without nery a mention.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/29/suspected-air-strikes-kills-131-after-landing-on-yemeni-wedding-party-5412800/

Or the shit going on in Syria (mass grave of 83 Yazidi women was discovered today) or Iraq, or or or... I thought it was the Saudi led coalition bombing Yemen?

Can't keep up with all the bombing.

There are a lot of bombs going off.

The point is that if they're brown people, we tend not to worry. If they're white people, we shit our pants. "

you mean the media doesnt worry

i have more faith in people

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Again, not that atrocities are comparable but the US-led coalition in Yemen mistakenly bombed a wedding party, killing 130+ people at the end of September.

The Pentagon's admission that it was deffo the wrong target went without nery a mention.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/29/suspected-air-strikes-kills-131-after-landing-on-yemeni-wedding-party-5412800/

Or the shit going on in Syria (mass grave of 83 Yazidi women was discovered today) or Iraq, or or or... I thought it was the Saudi led coalition bombing Yemen?

Can't keep up with all the bombing.

There are a lot of bombs going off.

The point is that if they're brown people, we tend not to worry. If they're white people, we shit our pants.

you mean the media doesnt worry

i have more faith in people"

"We judge a book by its cover and read what we want from between selected line"

I hope you're right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Again, not that atrocities are comparable but the US-led coalition in Yemen mistakenly bombed a wedding party, killing 130+ people at the end of September.

The Pentagon's admission that it was deffo the wrong target went without nery a mention.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/29/suspected-air-strikes-kills-131-after-landing-on-yemeni-wedding-party-5412800/

Or the shit going on in Syria (mass grave of 83 Yazidi women was discovered today) or Iraq, or or or... I thought it was the Saudi led coalition bombing Yemen?

Can't keep up with all the bombing.

There are a lot of bombs going off.

The point is that if they're brown people, we tend not to worry. If they're white people, we shit our pants. "

Due to the proximity to my homeland I have been shitting my pants since I left it.

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By *andm288Couple
over a year ago

oxford

"Praying isnt going to stop these evil bastards, its about time we stood up to them and played them at theyre own game they want to die for alllah well lets fucking help them get there faster"

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Praying isnt going to stop these evil bastards, its about time we stood up to them and played them at theyre own game they want to die for alllah well lets fucking help them get there faster

That is to completely misunderstand the point of this thread.

Throw a 6 to start, pls.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There will always be hate, there will always be people who will kill and destroy, there will always be people who........

There will always be kindness and love, we need to remember that.

and we are no different, there are hate crimes happen in the UK, there is hatred on the football terraces.

There will always be kindness and love, we need to remember that......

We need to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I shared this too x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Again, not that atrocities are comparable but the US-led coalition in Yemen mistakenly bombed a wedding party, killing 130+ people at the end of September.

The Pentagon's admission that it was deffo the wrong target went without nery a mention.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/29/suspected-air-strikes-kills-131-after-landing-on-yemeni-wedding-party-5412800/

Or the shit going on in Syria (mass grave of 83 Yazidi women was discovered today) or Iraq, or or or... I thought it was the Saudi led coalition bombing Yemen?

Can't keep up with all the bombing.

There are a lot of bombs going off.

The point is that if they're brown people, we tend not to worry. If they're white people, we shit our pants.

you mean the media doesnt worry

i have more faith in people"

People care,we don't have the power to do anything. We read the news and post on Facebook how much we abhor what goes on around the world but not many people do anything about it.

My sister and friends have done a little to collect for the shoe box campaign. Just 23 boxes,it's something but we could always do more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My dad sent me this today, and I thought I would share it with you.

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

That's something else is that, very touching & rightly said x

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By *eonardoLoveMan
over a year ago

London

"People said the same thing in the US after 9/11.

-Courtney"

I hope everyone is aware of the truth behind the 9/11 now. If not please search various documents/videos (of experts) which went against what the official US reports say. They will open your eyes.

Muslims with the ISIS and Al-Kaida (I ignore the spelling sorry...)...sometimes used as an excuse (like in 9/11)

Israel and Palestine (war set by US and Europe who created a new state inside another state...)

Black people in Africa who do mass murders everyday killing and raping children and women EVERYDAY. Export of weapons there by US and Europe helps it.

Ucraine and Russia (some says someone is behind it. Maybe US

Maybe not)

Note that I do believe that crazy people exist (like now in Paris). What I say is that sometimes they are used for a country's goal. This is even worse...

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"People said the same thing in the US after 9/11.

-Courtney

I hope everyone is aware of the truth behind the 9/11 now. If not please search various documents/videos (of experts) which went against what the official US reports say. They will open your eyes.

Muslims with the ISIS and Al-Kaida (I ignore the spelling sorry...)...sometimes used as an excuse (like in 9/11)

Israel and Palestine (war set by US and Europe who created a new state inside another state...)

Black people in Africa who do mass murders everyday killing and raping children and women EVERYDAY. Export of weapons there by US and Europe helps it.

Ucraine and Russia (some says someone is behind it. Maybe US

Maybe not)

Note that I do believe that crazy people exist (like now in Paris). What I say is that sometimes they are used for a country's goal. This is even worse...

Nice tits

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By *andm288Couple
over a year ago

oxford

Just my two penny's worth

Paris was an awful attack

But how many sleeper cells are in Europe now

How many of the young single men / refugees fleeing Syria are in a warm bed in Germany ?

Whilst I appreciate & understand & sympathetic with the refugee crisis

How do we know that their is not a small group of extremists amongst them

This isn't a bashing to immigrants refugees of any creed or colour

But we need to sure who they are before they are let in

Just look at the Eastern European that killed that young woman earlier this year

Free movement could bite us in the arose big time

Just my personal opinion

Pray for Paris

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Just my two penny's worth

Paris was an awful attack

But how many sleeper cells are in Europe now

How many of the young single men / refugees fleeing Syria are in a warm bed in Germany ?

Whilst I appreciate & understand & sympathetic with the refugee crisis

How do we know that their is not a small group of extremists amongst them

This isn't a bashing to immigrants refugees of any creed or colour

But we need to sure who they are before they are let in

Just look at the Eastern European that killed that young woman earlier this year

Free movement could bite us in the arose big time

Just my personal opinion

Pray for Paris "

You misunderstand the intention of the post.

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By *eonardoLoveMan
over a year ago

London

"People said the same thing in the US after 9/11.

-Courtney

I hope everyone is aware of the truth behind the 9/11 now. If not please search various documents/videos (of experts) which went against what the official US reports say. They will open your eyes.

Muslims with the ISIS and Al-Kaida (I ignore the spelling sorry...)...sometimes used as an excuse (like in 9/11)

Israel and Palestine (war set by US and Europe who created a new state inside another state...)

Black people in Africa who do mass murders everyday killing and raping children and women EVERYDAY. Export of weapons there by US and Europe helps it.

Ucraine and Russia (some says someone is behind it. Maybe US

Maybe not)

Note that I do believe that crazy people exist (like now in Paris). What I say is that sometimes they are used for a country's goal. This is even worse...

Nice tits

I feel like a woman now. No one listen to me, they just stare at my breast

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"People said the same thing in the US after 9/11.

-Courtney

I hope everyone is aware of the truth behind the 9/11 now. If not please search various documents/videos (of experts) which went against what the official US reports say. They will open your eyes.

Muslims with the ISIS and Al-Kaida (I ignore the spelling sorry...)...sometimes used as an excuse (like in 9/11)

Israel and Palestine (war set by US and Europe who created a new state inside another state...)

Black people in Africa who do mass murders everyday killing and raping children and women EVERYDAY. Export of weapons there by US and Europe helps it.

Ucraine and Russia (some says someone is behind it. Maybe US

Maybe not)

Note that I do believe that crazy people exist (like now in Paris). What I say is that sometimes they are used for a country's goal. This is even worse...

Nice tits

I feel like a woman now. No one listen to me, they just stare at my breast

Sorry - did you say something?

Pecs appeal...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People said the same thing in the US after 9/11.

-Courtney

I hope everyone is aware of the truth behind the 9/11 now. If not please search various documents/videos (of experts) which went against what the official US reports say. They will open your eyes.

Muslims with the ISIS and Al-Kaida (I ignore the spelling sorry...)...sometimes used as an excuse (like in 9/11)

Israel and Palestine (war set by US and Europe who created a new state inside another state...)

Black people in Africa who do mass murders everyday killing and raping children and women EVERYDAY. Export of weapons there by US and Europe helps it.

Ucraine and Russia (some says someone is behind it. Maybe US

Maybe not)

Note that I do believe that crazy people exist (like now in Paris). What I say is that sometimes they are used for a country's goal. This is even worse...

Nice tits

I feel like a woman now. No one listen to me, they just stare at my breast

People listen to me and stare at my breasts

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Nice tits

I feel like a woman now. No one listen to me, they just stare at my breast

People listen to me and stare at my breasts

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By *onnie55Man
over a year ago

Port Talbot

"My dad sent me this today, and I thought I would share it with you.

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

Well said.

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"My dad sent me this today, and I thought I would share it with you.

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

Best post ive read on here in a long time.

Thanks for sharing

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

I agree with some of what the OP is saying but I'm not sure I know what the intent or direction of this thread is.

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By *ofia2014Woman
over a year ago

Galashiels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks Joe.

I find I am holding my loved ones a bit closer today- you never know whats round the corner xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree with some of what the OP is saying but I'm not sure I know what the intent or direction of this thread is."

That's what is published is controlled, bigger picture out there much more going on than what the press/governments allow us to see & read

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

I feel this attack more closely than others in Lebanon, Iraq, Pakistan or other places not because the people involved are more white but because it's closer to home. I, like many other people in Britain, spend time in France and Paris, I've been to the Stade de France and I may well have eaten in one of the restaurants involved: I've definitely eaten in ones near by.

Every day people are murdered around the world but if your neighbour is murdered you're going to take more notice. The media reaction to this event, indeed Britain's reaction as a whole, is more to do with this than the colour of the skin of those attacked.

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By *entenTeaCouple
over a year ago

Buckley North Wales

"My dad sent me this today, and I thought I would share it with you.

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

Thank you for sharing this. It says a great deal and helps to reign in our angry and hatefull responses. Its a reality check.

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"I agree with some of what the OP is saying but I'm not sure I know what the intent or direction of this thread is."

Hmm...

Is the first post unclear?

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"My dad sent me this today, and I thought I would share it with you.

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

You don't have to go out of the country to find things that the media forgets. 2 terrorist bomb attacks and a shooting this week in Northern Ireland but it's not newsworthy enough.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"I agree with some of what the OP is saying but I'm not sure I know what the intent or direction of this thread is.

Hmm...

Is the first post unclear?"

Not totally but overall I quite liked it. It's some of the follow up posts that seem to me to be taking this thread in a direction that's saying we only care because those attacked are white.

To me that attitude is almost as bad and possibly the full reflection of some of the posts posted on the jihady john thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately wiping out one terrorist cell will just bring another group into power which will grow, its never-ending.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I sincerely believe that the threat to our nation, or even the Western world, doesn't come from terrorist fucks but how we respond to them.

They can't kill us all but we can trade liberty for 'security' without thinking. "

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"It's some of the follow up posts that seem to me to be taking this thread in a direction that's saying we only care because those attacked are white. "

Really? We only care because, it's practically on our doorstep. And we've probably been there and Paris has a 'relevance' to most of our lives much more than other places. It's simple human nature.

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over a year ago

"My dad sent me this today, and I thought I would share it with you.

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"It's some of the follow up posts that seem to me to be taking this thread in a direction that's saying we only care because those attacked are white.

Really? We only care because, it's practically on our doorstep. And we've probably been there and Paris has a 'relevance' to most of our lives much more than other places. It's simple human nature."

That's what said just above.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I feel this attack more closely than others in Lebanon, Iraq, Pakistan or other places not because the people involved are more white but because it's closer to home. I, like many other people in Britain, spend time in France and Paris, I've been to the Stade de France and I may well have eaten in one of the restaurants involved: I've definitely eaten in ones near by.

I'm not sure I entirely agree.

I agree we are likely to feel it more when we recognise ourselves in those affected, when we recognise the place not as somewhere foreign but as somewhere familiar and when we have that moment of "it could have been me".

The atrocities in Paris are entirely horrible, of course they are, but not more than those happening to others in other parts of the world.

All news is curated and the editorial slant will decide which bits of news make it on to our radar.

I saw the announcement on the 10pm news and then watched through until 2am. When I woke up I switched on the news and watched another couple of hours. Then I stopped.

I stopped because it was not reporting anything new. It was reporting people grieving. It was reporting people placing flowers. It was reporting the supposition of what if it was London?

DJ, thanks for the OP, it's the first bit of balance I have seen on this today (I don't mean the forum - I have ignored all threads in an effort to curate my own reading).

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I'd say laugh so ya don;t cry but there's nothing funny here

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I'd say laugh so ya don;t cry but there's nothing funny here"

It is exactly what we do, though.

We go back to our lives and live them minute/hour/day/week/month with laughter and petty crossness and some tears and the washing up and paying the bills and...

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"It's some of the follow up posts that seem to me to be taking this thread in a direction that's saying we only care because those attacked are white.

Really? We only care because, it's practically on our doorstep. And we've probably been there and Paris has a 'relevance' to most of our lives much more than other places. It's simple human nature."

No. People care because the media tell you it's happening. If they don't report it,understandably, people generally don't care about it. People were concerned about Lybia and the press stopped covering it. Do you think it's peaceful now?

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over a year ago

One of the first things i thought about when i noticed all the news coverage.

That little refugee child who died got publicity for a day, none of the others who have died since have been mentioned.

Band Aid, we were raising money to cover the effects of war there but were never told that.

The world can be a fucked up place, which is why we use fucked up ways to deal with that. People are finding out the truth though and not putting up with it.

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By *iamondjoe OP Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"I'd say laugh so ya don;t cry but there's nothing funny here

It is exactly what we do, though.

We go back to our lives and live them minute/hour/day/week/month with laughter and petty crossness and some tears and the washing up and paying the bills and..."

Yup

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Praying isnt going to stop these evil bastards, its about time we stood up to them and played them at theyre own game they want to die for alllah well lets fucking help them get there faster"

The ones the security services know about should be IMMEDIATELY sent there faster.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religion is misused by many and all these ways of misuse to lead wars to murder, to kill innocent and wipe out intellect.

A few mislead the mass into believing, what they do is right and what all others do is wrong.

Mankind has never lived in peace; no imperial, democratic or oppressive system has lead to peace in anyway or manner for humans.

This as it is not the nature of mankind to settle down with the “lamb”; war produces war; revolution eats its' own children and to what end??

The end is that families mourner for their children, their parents, their sister and brothers, and the great mass of humans “jump” onto the next media issue, forgetting what has happened within minutes.

Maybe it would be a better world if we all stopped and thought for 10 minutes of the losses of others, the loss to us all in murder intellect and lives.

10 minutes could stretch into 20, 20 into 1 hour, 1 hour into 1 day...

But that is a thought and thoughts are like the wind, here and there never to be caught.

All our thoughts are with the families who have lost someone through war, political and religious oppression, through accident and self harm …

Maybe we should just give these thoughts 10 minutes of time

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Religion is misused by many and all these ways of misuse to lead wars to murder, to kill innocent and wipe out intellect.

A few mislead the mass into believing, what they do is right and what all others do is wrong.

Mankind has never lived in peace; no imperial, democratic or oppressive system has lead to peace in anyway or manner for humans.

This as it is not the nature of mankind to settle down with the “lamb”; war produces war; revolution eats its' own children and to what end??

Maybe it would be a better world if we all stopped and thought for 10 minutes of the losses of others, the loss to us all in murder intellect and lives.

10 minutes could stretch into 20, 20 into 1 hour, 1 hour into 1 day...

But that is a thought and thoughts are like the wind, here and there never to be caught.

All our thoughts are with the families who have lost someone through war, political and religious oppression, through accident and self harm …

Maybe we should just give these thoughts 10 minutes of time"

That is just what a prayer is; just a few moments to pause and reflect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure I entirely agree.

The atrocities in Paris are entirely horrible, of course they are, but not more than those happening to others in other parts of the world.

All news is curated and the editorial slant will decide which bits of news make it on to our radar.

I saw the announcement on the 10pm news and then watched through until 2am. When I woke up I switched on the news and watched another couple of hours. Then I stopped.

I stopped because it was not reporting anything new. It was reporting people grieving. It was reporting people placing flowers. It was reporting the supposition of what if it was London?

DJ, thanks for the OP, it's the first bit of balance I have seen on this today (I don't mean the forum - I have ignored all threads in an effort to curate my own reading).

Very good post.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"My dad sent me this today, and I thought I would share it with you.

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's some of the follow up posts that seem to me to be taking this thread in a direction that's saying we only care because those attacked are white.

Really? We only care because, it's practically on our doorstep. And we've probably been there and Paris has a 'relevance' to most of our lives much more than other places. It's simple human nature.

Totally agree with you, same as the Tunisia attacks, after a week they stop reporting as something else happens. Apparently readers interest, well my interest is how these countries that provide our resources are doing. We take too much for granted as we have everything, compared to those in other countries, yet our humanity seems to go once the media stop covering about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody hell, no one ever shares my stuff on FB, three people have tonight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Talk is cheap if media stop reporting do something about it if your really bothered too many people gob off but don't do nothing about it and are so moralistic behind a computer screen

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By *ittle Pocket PerveWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

Did your dad write it originally DJ?

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By *eonardoLoveMan
over a year ago

London

"People said the same thing in the US after 9/11.

-Courtney

I hope everyone is aware of the truth behind the 9/11 now. If not please search various documents/videos (of experts) which went against what the official US reports say. They will open your eyes.

Muslims with the ISIS and Al-Kaida (I ignore the spelling sorry...)...sometimes used as an excuse (like in 9/11)

Israel and Palestine (war set by US and Europe who created a new state inside another state...)

Black people in Africa who do mass murders everyday killing and raping children and women EVERYDAY. Export of weapons there by US and Europe helps it.

Ucraine and Russia (some says someone is behind it. Maybe US

Maybe not)

Note that I do believe that crazy people exist (like now in Paris). What I say is that sometimes they are used for a country's goal. This is even worse...

Nice tits

I feel like a woman now. No one listen to me, they just stare at my breast

Sorry - did you say something?

Pecs appeal...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Talk is cheap if media stop reporting do something about it if your really bothered too many people gob off but don't do nothing about it and are so moralistic behind a computer screen "

Don't underestimate the power of the written word to educate. The more people behind computer screens that share the truth of what is happening in the wider world the better. Change may be slow but it is inevitable.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Talk is cheap if media stop reporting do something about it if your really bothered too many people gob off but don't do nothing about it and are so moralistic behind a computer screen

You also shouldn't underestimate the power of the written word to deceive and mislead and that many behind their computer screens have no interest in spreading the truth but rather in spreading whatever information they believe might further their own personal belief or cause.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not a religious man but I agree with the sentiment. "

Completely. Facebook is flooded with blinkered people changing their profile pictures whilst ignoring others suffering. A world of sheep

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"Talk is cheap if media stop reporting do something about it if your really bothered too many people gob off but don't do nothing about it and are so moralistic behind a computer screen "

I do. I start at home. Last week there were two bomb attacks and a terrorist shooting in Northern Ireland. Paris is closer to London than Belfast. Shallow but true

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