FabSwingers.com forum: jihadi john...dead?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

High probability that He's been killed in an air strike. Good news?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not normally one to say I believe in killing people but yes that bastard had to be put down x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not normally one to say I believe in killing people but yes that bastard had to be put down x"

agree 1 less piece of crap to worry about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not normally one to say I believe in killing people but yes that bastard had to be put down x"

Again, not often I agree, even less often I comment; but, yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Irrespective of cause of the problems out there. This cowardly man used terror against the weak and murde_ed people in a cruel and sadistic manner so deserved what he got.

I hope it hurt and the world may not be a better place but I'm glad he's gone. Let's hope he never made it to paradise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It gets tricky when you start talking about killing citizens of your own country without due process. Although, I suppose in the UK the death penalty wouldn't even be an option, so you've got that problem, too.

So the question boils down to whether our own citizens, fighting abroad, should be treated as criminals or enemy combatants. In all honesty, I'm a bit torn on the issue, but I lean in favor of seeing them as enemy combatants.

-Courtney

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

Fantastic news that this animal has been put down .a little bit of closure for the Henning family who's brave daughter Lucy will be on the Kyle show today talking about going through this hell whilst trying to complete her A levels with only her friends to help her brave brave girl and well done

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Will it make any difference

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

"High probability that He's been killed in an air strike. Good news?"

Yes and I hope it's true. His character is a disgrace to and doesn't represent the religion he claims to be fighting for.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"It gets tricky when you start talking about killing citizens of your own country without due process. Although, I suppose in the UK the death penalty wouldn't even be an option, so you've got that problem, too.

-Courtney"
well as it was the yanks that carried out the strike in retaliation for the beheading of one of thier journalists you don't have to worry one thing the yanks Israelis and ruskis get right hit one of ours and we will find you and we will carry out retribution scum like that done deserve due prosess

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Best news ever.

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

Unusual ground but I really hope they did kill this scum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hard to feel any sympathy for someone who took delight in the barbaric murder of innocent people against all the principles of a religion he claimed to represent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

-Courtneywell as it was the yanks that carried out the strike in retaliation for the beheading of one of thier journalists you don't have to worry one thing the yanks Israelis and ruskis get right hit one of ours and we will find you and we will carry out retribution scum like that done deserve due prosess "

But the same could be said about a UK citizen who beheads someone in the UK. But they would still get their day in court.

And yes, it was the Americans who carried out the air strike. I doubt, however, that they did it without telling the UK government first.

But, as I said, it's not really worth me arguing since I lean towards _iewing them as enemy combatants in any case

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's wait and see, these drones don't always take out the intended target.....

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Let's wait and see, these drones don't always take out the intended target....."

That just what I was thinking. But then again Ive probably been watching too much Homeland...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lets hope celebrating his death won't inspire a martyr....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's wait and see, these drones don't always take out the intended target.....

That just what I was thinking. But then again Ive probably been watching too much Homeland..."

Me too

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

But the same could be said about a UK citizen who beheads someone in the UK. But they would still get their day in court.

And yes, it was the Americans who carried out the air strike. I doubt, however, that they did it without telling the UK government first.

But, as I said, it's not really worth me arguing since I lean towards _iewing them as enemy combatants in any case

-Courtney

Exactly right Courtney. Difficult for some to see, but there is a war going on and this person chose his side. And now, hopefully, has paid his dues.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

Good news, if it's true.

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By *ivnwcplCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

"Will it make any difference "

Nope ... ISIS leaders will shrug their shoulders, hand a sword to someone else, and call him "Jihadi Dave".

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"Good news, if it's true.

He didn't deserve such a sudden end, prolonged and painful, might have been more appropriate.

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

"Good news, if it's true.

He didn't deserve such a sudden end, prolonged and painful, might have been more appropriate."

my thoughts.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"Good news, if it's true.

He didn't deserve such a sudden end, prolonged and painful, might have been more appropriate."
who said it wasn't ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good news, if it's true.

He didn't deserve such a sudden end, prolonged and painful, might have been more appropriate."

It would have been good to have captu_ed him, thrown him in a cage and set fire to him. Death from a drone strike is, however, and acceptable alternative.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lets wait how long it is before the left wing media turn up and say it was wrong to kill a so called "british" man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

His name was jihadi John

America dropped a bomb

Now jihadi John

Well

He's gone

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

hope hes gone but unfortunately loads to replace him

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

"His name was jihadi John

America dropped a bomb

Now jihadi John

Well

He's gone "

If you made out up on the spot..

Impressive.

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

"His name was jihadi John

America dropped a bomb

Now jihadi John

Well

He's gone

If you made out up on the spot..

Impressive.

Made it up... Wasn't asking if you made out! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't agree with the death penalty, but I'm struggling to be remotely upset about this.

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By *aystay66Man
over a year ago

Manchester

To quick off a death for the coward in my eyes good riddance

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

I wish the media would stop the hype about him. It serves no purpose other than to glorify him to others who may also want that type of fame for themselves.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Good news, if it's true.

He didn't deserve such a sudden end, prolonged and painful, might have been more appropriate.who said it wasn't ? "

If he was in a normal car or lightly armou_ed vehicle that was hit by a drone launched missile you can be assu_ed that death was instantaneous. As his body was torn apart by the hig explosive warhead, most of the released blood and bodily fluids would have been instantly vapourised by heat. There would be little left of his body that would even resemble anything that was once human.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I really hope he is not dead. Better would be terribly wounded and a long extremely painful life ahead. No Martyrdom for him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lets hope celebrating his death won't inspire a martyr....

Indeed. It's not like one guy is dead and that's the end of it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd rather he was in prison for the rest of his life,totally cut off from humanity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lets wait how long it is before the left wing media turn up and say it was wrong to kill a so called "british" man"

Hard to have even conside_ed him a 'man'. Cowardly scum might be more appropriate. I hope is heaven is cold and his Virgins all have cocks and an insatiable appetite for his arse!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Will it make any difference "

Sadly no, there will be a thousand more jihadi john's out there ready to fill his boots

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

"Good news, if it's true.

He didn't deserve such a sudden end, prolonged and painful, might have been more appropriate.who said it wasn't ?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I'd much rather he had been captu_ed and stood trial.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd much rather he had been captu_ed and stood trial."

I must admit when things like this happen I always feel they have gotten away with it, he's at peace now and will never had to answer for his crimes

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By *methyst01Man
over a year ago

Ealing Common

Im indifferent. I dont really care.

Its political and the media have their own ways of portraying things.

Do i believe isis to be extremists? Yes.

Do i believe what they doing is wrong? Yes.

Do i believe in killing innocent people? No i dont.

Do i believe everything that is fed through to me by the media? No.

Because war makes money and it keeps control. The US invaded Iran because they had weapons of mass destruction and till today have not evidenced it.

Was that extremist? Yes

Did innocent people die? Yes

Was what they did right? No

You can slate me for this post all you like but im entitled to my opinion and you know what they say opinions and arseholes- we all have one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im indifferent. I dont really care.

Its political and the media have their own ways of portraying things.

Do i believe isis to be extremists? Yes.

Do i believe what they doing is wrong? Yes.

Do i believe in killing innocent people? No i dont.

Do i believe everything that is fed through to me by the media? No.

Because war makes money and it keeps control. The US invaded Iran because they had weapons of mass destruction and till today have not evidenced it.

Was that extremist? Yes

Did innocent people die? Yes

Was what they did right? No

You can slate me for this post all you like but im entitled to my opinion and you know what they say opinions and arseholes- we all have one

The US invaded Iran?

What did I miss last night?

-Courtney

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

cheers Vladimir

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By *methyst01Man
over a year ago

Ealing Common

"Im indifferent. I dont really care.

Its political and the media have their own ways of portraying things.

Do i believe isis to be extremists? Yes.

Do i believe what they doing is wrong? Yes.

Do i believe in killing innocent people? No i dont.

Do i believe everything that is fed through to me by the media? No.

Because war makes money and it keeps control. The US invaded Iran because they had weapons of mass destruction and till today have not evidenced it.

Was that extremist? Yes

Did innocent people die? Yes

Was what they did right? No

You can slate me for this post all you like but im entitled to my opinion and you know what they say opinions and arseholes- we all have one

The US invaded Iran?

What did I miss last night?

-Courtney"

Iraq sorry p_edictive text.

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
over a year ago

Stourbridge

"I'd much rather he had been captu_ed and stood trial."

I have to say this is my (m) _iew too, however I'm far from sorry that he's dead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel killing him like this has made him kinda get away with it.

It's an instant death, I feel he should have been made to suffer like those he killed.

He didn't know he was going to die, I can't comprihend how those people he killed could have felt knowing what he was going to do in those few mins What ran through there minds etc.

He didn't suffer unlike those he killed in such a heinous way.

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

"Will it make any difference

Sadly no, there will be a thousand more jihadi john's out there ready to fill his boots "

Dont think there is much of his boots left for anyone to wear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope that despite the 'clinical' drone strike, he realises what was going on and had time to feel real pain, panic and misery before he shuffled off his mortal coil.

Like all his ilk, cowardly bullies who deserve true karma.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best News ever on Friday the 13 th

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope that despite the 'clinical' drone strike, he realises what was going on and had time to feel real pain, panic and misery before he shuffled off his mortal coil.

Like all his ilk, cowardly bullies who deserve true karma. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

great news if its confirmed

still think a drone strike was too good for that piece of garbage

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By *aughtyHOTWifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Bath

I hope it is true & that he suffe_ed like the victims of this evil sadistic monster..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I hope it is true & that he suffe_ed like the victims of this evil sadistic monster.. "

Quite, my concern is that it would have been to quick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

the only difference being, he wasn't kneeling with his hands tied behind his back waiting for the knife......

it came out of the blue and was probably over before he knew it.....

same outcome, different level of terror for the individual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!"

This. 100% this.

-Courtney

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!

This. 100% this.

-Courtney"

Sadly true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wish the media would stop the hype about him. It serves no purpose other than to glorify him to others who may also want that type of fame for themselves."

This for me. Just another dead criminal.

And he didn't get off easily...I believe in hell.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!"

I don't think so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!

I don't think so."
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It's the most primitive of instincts and not an endearing one!.

He died believing what he did was right and just!

Inflicting torture to change his beliefs is bollocks of the highest order.

Inflicting torture to satisfy your own blood lust is morally corrupting of your own soul!

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By *sianmale89Man
over a year ago

Stockport

"High probability that He's been killed in an air strike. Good news?"

if true then good, wild and out of control needed to be put down...

saddens me daily what goes on in syria and iraq all those people suffering at the hands of ISIS...

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

-Courtney"

Nothing tricky about this at all.

Up until the PC crowd moved in to politics the removal of capital punishment for all crimes and the repeal of the Treason Act it was a capital crime for any Subject of the Crown to bare arms against the Crown here or abroad. Maybe rather than looking for ways to give justification for his actions (implying he is an enemy soldier in a war because that is what an enemy combatant is) and reasons to blame our government and the USA for his being targeted and hopefully killed, you should be asking why our government over the past 30 years has been so hell bent on castrating our armed forces and removing our every protection from foreign threats?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now if only some one can bomb David Cameron x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Now if only some one can bomb David Cameron x"

He doesn't deserve to be killed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!

I don't think so..

It's the most primitive of instincts and not an endearing one!.

He died believing what he did was right and just!

Inflicting torture to change his beliefs is bollocks of the highest order.

Inflicting torture to satisfy your own blood lust is morally corrupting of your own soul!

That's your opinion. One i don't share.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good news, if it's true.

He didn't deserve such a sudden end, prolonged and painful, might have been more appropriate.who said it wasn't ? "

He was hit with either a Paveway or a Hellfire so I'd he'd be dead Within a second after him hearing it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now if only some one can bomb David Cameron x"

What a scummy post.

Whether you agree or disagree with his political _iews this is pathetic. Absolute horror me post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I don't think he is dead, it is another stunt from the US, believing he is dead like the same with bin laden, the news title is "they believe" meaning not 100% he is, if he is dead then we want evidence, not just words.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope that despite the 'clinical' drone strike, he realises what was going on and had time to feel real pain, panic and misery before he shuffled off his mortal coil.

Like all his ilk, cowardly bullies who deserve true karma. "

Unfortunately there is no chance that has happened. He would have known about it two to three seconds before he was hit and he'd be dead within one more second.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No I don't think he is dead, it is another stunt from the US, believing he is dead like the same with bin laden, the news title is "they believe" meaning not 100% he is, if he is dead then we want evidence, not just words."

Where to start with this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where to start with this

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From the start lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope the barstard died a slow and painful death.

this coward deserves everything he gets.

My heart goes out to all the families who lost loved ones to Jihadi John.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!

I don't think so..

It's the most primitive of instincts and not an endearing one!.

He died believing what he did was right and just!

Inflicting torture to change his beliefs is bollocks of the highest order.

Inflicting torture to satisfy your own blood lust is morally corrupting of your own soul!

That's your opinion. One i don't share."
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Those aren't opinions... There facts!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is from the news "American defence officials have said they are almost certain they have killed the British militant known as Jihadi John in a drone strike." not even they are certain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We won't get it though if he's been blown to smithereens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Athough I would like to think this ev man is dead. I don't think he is. I think it rumours and just when we think things are beginning to settle I think he will reappear. The only way of knowing he is dead it's to prove it. Show the world his dead corpse. Macarbe I know but that's the only way I will believe he is dead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We won't get it though if he's been blown to smithereens

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That is right, we will see what they come up with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like he ever exsisted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where to start with this

From the start lol"

Ok. Utter nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Athough I would like to think this ev man is dead. I don't think he is. I think it rumours and just when we think things are beginning to settle I think he will reappear. The only way of knowing he is dead it's to prove it. Show the world his dead corpse. Macarbe I know but that's the only way I will believe he is dead"

Rumours? The Prime Minister has spoke about it this morning. He's not going tocommwnt on a rumour like that FFS.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!

I don't think so..

It's the most primitive of instincts and not an endearing one!.

He died believing what he did was right and just!

Inflicting torture to change his beliefs is bollocks of the highest order.

Inflicting torture to satisfy your own blood lust is morally corrupting of your own soul!

That's your opinion. One i don't share..

Those aren't opinions... There facts!"

No, that is your opinion. Not facts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!

I don't think so..

It's the most primitive of instincts and not an endearing one!.

He died believing what he did was right and just!

Inflicting torture to change his beliefs is bollocks of the highest order.

Inflicting torture to satisfy your own blood lust is morally corrupting of your own soul!

That's your opinion. One i don't share..

Those aren't opinions... There facts!"

You have no proof, ergo no facts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where to start with this

From the start lol

Ok. Utter nonsense. "
No it is not, it is called a different _iew point, just cos you don't agree.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"He was hit with either a Paveway or a Hellfire so I'd he'd be dead Within a second after him hearing it. "

Not correct, if as stated on the news he was killed with a Hellfire missile he would have know nothing. The Hellfire being a supersonic missile nobody would have heard it arrive as the explosive blast would have drowned out the sonic boom of its arrival.

Its like all HV weapons fire, if you hear it, it missed...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He was hit with either a Paveway or a Hellfire so I'd he'd be dead Within a second after him hearing it.

Its like all HV weapons fire, if you hear it, it missed...

You'd hear the whistling as it came towards you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd like to see proof ie his voddy hung up in the streets to show everyone that the scum bag is really dead

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By *arehamMan
over a year ago

handforth

Unless you have a body or dna not 100%.but let's hope so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where to start with this

From the start lol

Ok. Utter nonsense. No it is not, it is called a different _iew point, just cos you don't agree."

It's utter fantasy then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where to start with this

From the start lol

Ok. Utter nonsense. No it is not, it is called a different _iew point, just cos you don't agree.

It's utter fantasy then. "
Don't get me started on 9/11 lol, anyway we will see what the news will say later.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"He was hit with either a Paveway or a Hellfire so I'd he'd be dead Within a second after him hearing it.

Its like all HV weapons fire, if you hear it, it missed...

You'd hear the whistling as it came towards you.

No...

Physics 101, you cant hear the sound of anything travelling towards you at SUPERSONIC speeds. Because the get to you BEFORE the sound.

Thats why they are called supersonic.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"He was hit with either a Paveway or a Hellfire so I'd he'd be dead Within a second after him hearing it.

Its like all HV weapons fire, if you hear it, it missed...

You'd hear the whistling as it came towards you.

No...

Physics 101, you cant hear the sound of anything travelling towards you at SUPERSONIC speeds. Because the get to you BEFORE the sound.

Thats why they are called supersonic.

Correct.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"He was hit with either a Paveway or a Hellfire so I'd he'd be dead Within a second after him hearing it.

Its like all HV weapons fire, if you hear it, it missed...

You'd hear the whistling as it came towards you.

Incorrect.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'd like to see proof ie his voddy hung up in the streets to show everyone that the scum bag is really dead "

There will be no body. There may be "hint of terrorist" spread over a wide area though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never knew so many armourers on here knowing al about Hellfire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely good news.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"I'd like to see proof ie his voddy hung up in the streets to show everyone that the scum bag is really dead

There will be no body. There may be "hint of terrorist" spread over a wide area though."

One could even paraphrase the song and say he is blowing in the wind!

Personally, although I can see many benefits from capturing him alive holding him in prison, trying, convicting, dragging through the streets and giving him a Wallace type death before sending his broken body round the Realm as a warning to others (I know that would never happen because we are too civilised to do to others what they are doing to us

), I do see a certain logic and benefit in killing the leaders and figureheads of these international terrorist organisations with weapons that arrive so fast that they never hear or see them coming.

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By *eakyBBMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Love that

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"He was hit with either a Paveway or a Hellfire so I'd he'd be dead Within a second after him hearing it.

Its like all HV weapons fire, if you hear it, it missed...

You'd hear the whistling as it came towards you.

If the missile is supersonic then it is travelling faster than sound so he would hear nothing other than an almighty bang for about a millisecond as it blew his bloody head off.

Good riddance but I just wish it could have been slower and much more painful. Can't have everything I suppose.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

What took them so long?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I definitely need to focus more...when I read the title of the thread I thought at first that it said JILTED John dead...I was gutted until I looked at it properly. Now it's a big

from me.

And don't forget...Gordon Is A Moron

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Glad he got what was coming death. No court costs

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"I definitely need to focus more...when I read the title of the thread I thought at first that it said JILTED John dead...I was gutted until I looked at it properly. Now it's a big

from me.

And don't forget...Gordon Is A Moron

Lol

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Will it make any difference "

Probably not, but that's one less oxygen thief on the planet.

My only hope is that he is not actually dead and has been spirited away by the sas to some hell hole, and is going to spend the rest of his miserable life in agony squealing like a pig, giving up all the information held has.

Then they do a bricktop on him and feed his to the pig's.

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By *lutandhubbyCouple
over a year ago

west midlands

"Will it make any difference

Probably not, but that's one less oxygen thief on the planet.

Then they do a bricktop on him and feed his to the pig's. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Will it make any difference

Nope ... ISIS leaders will shrug their shoulders, hand a sword to someone else, and call him "Jihadi Dave".

That's my thoughts too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No sympathy with the animal at all, but we are supposed to be a civilised country. We have a legal system and due process. If they knew where he was and were able to strike in the way they did, would it really have been so difficult to detain him and bring him to trial? Charge him, convict him and maintain our civility?

He is just one of many evil people looking to harm the west, this would have been his favou_ed way to go.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I've not read through but generally anyone's death leaves a bigger circle of victims. Grieving mothers, sisters, friends etc. I'm not in support of taking life, unless it's the only way to stop the immediate loss of others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No sympathy with the animal at all, but we are supposed to be a civilised country. We have a legal system and due process. If they knew where he was and were able to strike in the way they did, would it really have been so difficult to detain him and bring him to trial? Charge him, convict him and maintain our civility?

He is just one of many evil people looking to harm the west, this would have been his favou_ed way to go."

As he was in syria at the time it would have been near impossible to arrest him as we don't legally have troops on the ground there.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

No, i do understand that. I'm an army brat - i understand the possible costs. But if you think there is a soldier in the country who wouldn't have given his right arm for the chance to bring him to justice, i think you'd be surprised.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Hard to feel any sympathy for someone who took delight in the barbaric murder of innocent people against all the principles of a religion he claimed to represent."

this..

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

their families might not

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

He is just one of many evil people looking to harm the west, this would have been his favou_ed way to go."

it would have been massively difficult, he was taken out in Raqqa which is their stronghold..

to risk troops on the ground to capture him is not worth it and no leader would at the present time sanction it..

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"High probability that He's been killed in an air strike. Good news?"

I've not read the whole thread but yes I think it's good news. Jihadi John was Scum i just hoped a drone would have dropped a bomb on his evil head sooner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!

This. 100% this.

-Courtney"

Sadly it's true but in order to stand a chance of beating these 'people' (I use the term loosely) we may have to sink to their level a little bit. They currently have little to fear from us because we're far too civilised in our response. They can usually either expect a quick, painless end or capture, trial and an easy time in prison. While they freely commit the most atrocious acts and crimes with no fear of the consequences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

their families might not "

If I'd been asked I'd have gone in a heartbeat. Not to detain him though, to cut his head off and stitch it to the body of a pig!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

their families might not

If I'd been asked I'd have gone in a heartbeat. Not to detain him though, to cut his head off and stitch it to the body of a pig!"

oh, ok then

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

their families might not

If I'd been asked I'd have gone in a heartbeat. Not to detain him though, to cut his head off and stitch it to the body of a pig!"

Like in the film "O lucky man"?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

their families might not

If I'd been asked I'd have gone in a heartbeat. Not to detain him though, to cut his head off and stitch it to the body of a pig!

Like in the film "O lucky man"?!"

Never heard of it..

I'm upset that someone had the idea before me now...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

their families might not

If I'd been asked I'd have gone in a heartbeat. Not to detain him though, to cut his head off and stitch it to the body of a pig!

Like in the film "O lucky man"?!

Never heard of it..

I'm upset that someone had the idea before me now...

Its like the best film ever!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What does it matter, next week Jihadi Ringo will pop up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

their families might not

If I'd been asked I'd have gone in a heartbeat. Not to detain him though, to cut his head off and stitch it to the body of a pig!

Like in the film "O lucky man"?!

Never heard of it..

I'm upset that someone had the idea before me now...

Its like the best film ever!!

I'm going to have to hunt it down now then...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What does it matter, next week Jihadi Ringo will pop up."

As long as he doesn't try and play the drums...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

their families might not

If I'd been asked I'd have gone in a heartbeat. Not to detain him though, to cut his head off and stitch it to the body of a pig!

Like in the film "O lucky man"?!

Never heard of it..

I'm upset that someone had the idea before me now...

Its like the best film ever!!

I'm going to have to hunt it down now then...

Be prepa_ed.....its fucking weird!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

their families might not

If I'd been asked I'd have gone in a heartbeat. Not to detain him though, to cut his head off and stitch it to the body of a pig!

Like in the film "O lucky man"?!

Never heard of it..

I'm upset that someone had the idea before me now...

Its like the best film ever!!

I'm going to have to hunt it down now then...

Be prepa_ed.....its fucking weird!

Iron Sky is one of my favourite films, I can handle weird...

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

Pussy footing around these people isn't working. And as the Muslims say, these terrorists are just a handful of individuals amongst the millions who are peaceful. Since there are only a handful, such measures will not affect many but will keep millions of us safer

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Most comments are pretty 'jingoistic' about this subject and probably rightly so. Some comments about the remoteness of this alleged assassination.

But, really think about this;

Would you have killed this man face to face given the opportunity?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Happily.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries"

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm not sure fighting alongside kurds trying to defend their own land constitutes terrorism.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

the turkish government will disagree with you there i should imagine

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By *eakyBBMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"the turkish government will disagree with you there i should imagine

Explain.

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By *eakyBBMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

I think the ex British forces were responding to evil.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group"

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"the turkish government will disagree with you there i should imagine

Explain."

the kurds don't have their own land, which is why the pkk have been waging a terrorist campaign in turkey for as long as i can remember. in any case, british ex-military have joined IVFOR and are fighting in syria. i just wonde_ed if the poster i quoted and commented on thought that expulsion from britian for those going to syria to fight should include them or not. personally i don't really care either way, but maybe what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander too.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

Every one deserves due process, that's the whole point of it and what makes liberal, western democracies so much more stable and reliable societies than any others.

With regard to Jihady John. He got what he deserved but, like Jeremy Corbyn said, I'd rather, if it had been or was possible, that he'd been brought before a court and faced justice there.

I wouldn't shed any tears for him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most comments are pretty 'jingoistic' about this subject and probably rightly so. Some comments about the remoteness of this alleged assassination.

But, really think about this;

Would you have killed this man face to face given the opportunity? "

Given what happened in Paris, perhaps we should remember the Albigensian Crusade of the 13th centuary. "Kill them all. God will know his own".

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I was wondering how you'd take someone's citizenship away who was born here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"the turkish government will disagree with you there i should imagine

Explain.

Well explained stance, Thankyou.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"High probability that He's been killed in an air strike. Good news?"

Whilst I'm pleased to hear this . It concerns me that it may cause unrest and more revenge attacks.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless "

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

Taking away citizenships of the handful who have demonstrated that they are the enemy within, can not only be made legal, but in my _iew, justifiable. It is certainly better than the calls of beheading people and stitching them on carcasses of pigs or of torturing them to death

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"I was wondering how you'd take someone's citizenship away who was born here."

Same way you take their liberty away or take their life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

Right but we'd have to forgo our member ship of the Un and various other international agreements that grant you and I and every British citizen a considerable number of rights around the world.

It's a case cutting your nose off to spite your face.

What changes if a person goes to Syria to fight with or without a British passport?

Either way they aren't coming back to anything but a jail cell

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I was wondering how you'd take someone's citizenship away who was born here.

Same way you take their liberty away or take their life"

Oh i thought you ment like taking away their dual nationality passport if they had been an immigrant.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Detain him

What a load of nonsense, it's okay sitting in the safety of a living room suggesting others risk their life to go and get him.

Click a button and he has gone to paradise.

their families might not

If I'd been asked I'd have gone in a heartbeat. Not to detain him though, to cut his head off and stitch it to the body of a pig!"

How does that make you any better than him?

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

making people outlaws will achieve what exactly? apart from galvanising their resolve to continue with what they believe in ..... you clearly haven't thought this through in any rational kind of way.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"I think when people start to want to inflict pain and suffering...

Then jihadi John has won!

This. 100% this.

-Courtney

If we 'sink to their level' then why even bother fighting them. If we're going to be like them anyway why not just give in now and save all the hassle.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

Right but we'd have to forgo our member ship of the Un and various other international agreements that grant you and I and every British citizen a considerable number of rights around the world.

It's a case cutting your nose off to spite your face.

What changes if a person goes to Syria to fight with or without a British passport?

Either way they aren't coming back to anything but a jail cell"

I don't see it as cutting ones nose to spite ones face. Unless we are talking about tens of thousands of home-grown Muslim terrorists

But since we are talking not of tens of thousands of people but merely a handful of such people, this can easily be achieved

Putting someone in prision for a couple of months or a couple of years is not any deterrent for someone who is prepa_ed to strap a bomb around their waist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

I have not read lots of this thread, but I wanted to point out that what you say about the internment of Japanese Americans is incorrect. Not only was it opposed to international law (you have to recognize the distinction between national and international law), but it was later decla_ed to have been wrong by America and reparations were paid.

Things are not legal just because a state claims they are. That is utterly ridiculous. And if it were true, then the Nuremberg trials would have been baseless and meaningless.

-Courtney

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

making people outlaws will achieve what exactly? apart from galvanising their resolve to continue with what they believe in ..... you clearly haven't thought this through in any rational kind of way."

People who join terrorist groups are already outlaws. I prefer sending them away instead of killing them or torturing them or allowing them to kill us or torture us

Ofcourse, we could continue doing what we have done so far; nothing. Maybe they will have a change of heart after they kill a few thousand more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

Right but we'd have to forgo our member ship of the Un and various other international agreements that grant you and I and every British citizen a considerable number of rights around the world.

It's a case cutting your nose off to spite your face.

What changes if a person goes to Syria to fight with or without a British passport?

Either way they aren't coming back to anything but a jail cell

I don't see it as cutting ones nose to spite ones face. Unless we are talking about tens of thousands of home-grown Muslim terrorists

But since we are talking not of tens of thousands of people but merely a handful of such people, this can easily be achieved

Putting someone in prision for a couple of months or a couple of years is not any deterrent for someone who is prepa_ed to strap a bomb around their waist"

What are you talking about?

What you're discussing is not home grown terrorists or anything of the sort you're discussing withdrawing from major international organisations and sacrificing the protections that affords all British citizens abroad so you can take away the passports of (in your own words) a handful of people.

A hand full of people who if they tried to return to the UK with their passport would be screwed anyway.

.what do you think taking their passports away would achieve?

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By *bearsCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

serves the bastard right

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

"I'm not normally one to say I believe in killing people but yes that bastard had to be put down x"

I would be liked to have seen him captu_ed and brought back to the UK for trail and been made to answer for his crimes.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

Things are not legal just because a state claims they are. That is utterly ridiculous. And if it were true, then the Nuremberg trials would have been baseless and meaningless.

-Courtney"

And what is your suggestion? Kill them? Torture them to death? Behead them and stitch their heads on pig carcasses?

My apologies but I don't want to be party to those kind of 'solutions'

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

Right but we'd have to forgo our member ship of the Un and various other international agreements that grant you and I and every British citizen a considerable number of rights around the world.

It's a case cutting your nose off to spite your face.

What changes if a person goes to Syria to fight with or without a British passport?

Either way they aren't coming back to anything but a jail cell

I don't see it as cutting ones nose to spite ones face. Unless we are talking about tens of thousands of home-grown Muslim terrorists

But since we are talking not of tens of thousands of people but merely a handful of such people, this can easily be achieved

Putting someone in prision for a couple of months or a couple of years is not any deterrent for someone who is prepa_ed to strap a bomb around their waist

What are you talking about?

A hand full of people who if they tried to return to the UK with their passport would be screwed anyway.

.what do you think taking their passports away would achieve? "

I must have missed your suggestion. Which was, what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

Things are not legal just because a state claims they are. That is utterly ridiculous. And if it were true, then the Nuremberg trials would have been baseless and meaningless.

-Courtney

And what is your suggestion? Kill them? Torture them to death? Behead them and stitch their heads on pig carcasses?

My apologies but I don't want to be party to those kind of 'solutions'"

If you read my comments earlier in the thread you would see that I don't agree with any of that. Try reading my previous comments before you assume I want to torture people.

But I also would like facts discussed on here as facts. Not assumptions. If you don't know enough about an issue, like the internment of Japanese Americans, then don't bring it up.

-Courtney

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

People who join terrorist groups are already outlaws. "
.... wrong

" I prefer sending them away instead of killing them or torturing them"

send them where exactly? .... antarctica? coventry?

you're talking utter nonsense now

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

People who join terrorist groups are already outlaws. .... wrong

I prefer sending them away instead of killing them or torturing them

send them where exactly? .... antarctica? coventry?

you're talking utter nonsense now"

Can you tone down your personal attacks, just a tad; not by much, but just a little bit, please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now if only some one can bomb David Cameron x"

Bit harsh? Tony Blair maybe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

Right but we'd have to forgo our member ship of the Un and various other international agreements that grant you and I and every British citizen a considerable number of rights around the world.

It's a case cutting your nose off to spite your face.

What changes if a person goes to Syria to fight with or without a British passport?

Either way they aren't coming back to anything but a jail cell

I don't see it as cutting ones nose to spite ones face. Unless we are talking about tens of thousands of home-grown Muslim terrorists

But since we are talking not of tens of thousands of people but merely a handful of such people, this can easily be achieved

Putting someone in prision for a couple of months or a couple of years is not any deterrent for someone who is prepa_ed to strap a bomb around their waist

What are you talking about?

A hand full of people who if they tried to return to the UK with their passport would be screwed anyway.

.what do you think taking their passports away would achieve?

I must have missed your suggestion. Which was, what?"

Continue as we are?

Taking their passports achieves literally nothing.

But costs us severely.

So it's a stupid step to take

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

People who join terrorist groups are already outlaws. .... wrong

I prefer sending them away instead of killing them or torturing them

send them where exactly? .... antarctica? coventry?

you're talking utter nonsense now

Can you tone down your personal attacks, just a tad; not by much, but just a little bit, please"

if you truely believe that any of that was a personal attack then you know where the report button is don't you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Simple if you don't want freedom and civilised laws and part of British culture f--k off from these shores

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Any citizen who joins a terrorist group should have their citizenship rescinded and if they are not already abroad with that terrorist group, should be deported to those countries

....and that includes the british ex-army members who have gone to perpetuate the violence?

Any citizen who joins a terrorist group

I belive you cannot legally make a person stateless

You can legally do whatever you want as long as your laws permit you to. Laws need to be proposed, debated and passed

The internment of Japanese Americans by America was legal. Because, they say so

Right but we'd have to forgo our member ship of the Un and various other international agreements that grant you and I and every British citizen a considerable number of rights around the world.

It's a case cutting your nose off to spite your face.

What changes if a person goes to Syria to fight with or without a British passport?

Either way they aren't coming back to anything but a jail cell

I don't see it as cutting ones nose to spite ones face. Unless we are talking about tens of thousands of home-grown Muslim terrorists

But since we are talking not of tens of thousands of people but merely a handful of such people, this can easily be achieved

Putting someone in prision for a couple of months or a couple of years is not any deterrent for someone who is prepa_ed to strap a bomb around their waist

What are you talking about?

A hand full of people who if they tried to return to the UK with their passport would be screwed anyway.

.what do you think taking their passports away would achieve?

I must have missed your suggestion. Which was, what?

Continue as we are?

Taking their passports achieves literally nothing.

But costs us severely.

So it's a stupid step to take"

It stops people from returning here after they have been trained to kill hund_eds of innocent people

What was your suggestion?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nuke them all

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

People who join terrorist groups are already outlaws. .... wrong

I prefer sending them away instead of killing them or torturing them

send them where exactly? .... antarctica? coventry?

you're talking utter nonsense now

Can you tone down your personal attacks, just a tad; not by much, but just a little bit, please

if you truely believe that any of that was a personal attack then you know where the report button is don't you?"

I am not going to get into a slanging match with you. You win

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

I just hope he suffe_ed before he died

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who join terrorist groups are already outlaws. .... wrong

I prefer sending them away instead of killing them or torturing them

send them where exactly? .... antarctica? coventry?

you're talking utter nonsense now

Can you tone down your personal attacks, just a tad; not by much, but just a little bit, please

if you truely believe that any of that was a personal attack then you know where the report button is don't you?

I am not going to get into a slanging match with you. You win"

No one who spells truly as truely wins

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

"Nuke them all "

If you mean the terrorists, that is

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

People who join terrorist groups are already outlaws. .... wrong

I prefer sending them away instead of killing them or torturing them

send them where exactly? .... antarctica? coventry?

you're talking utter nonsense now

Can you tone down your personal attacks, just a tad; not by much, but just a little bit, please

if you truely believe that any of that was a personal attack then you know where the report button is don't you?

I am not going to get into a slanging match with you. You win

No one who spells truly as truely wins

but the grammer police will always be losers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who join terrorist groups are already outlaws. .... wrong

I prefer sending them away instead of killing them or torturing them

send them where exactly? .... antarctica? coventry?

you're talking utter nonsense now

Can you tone down your personal attacks, just a tad; not by much, but just a little bit, please

if you truely believe that any of that was a personal attack then you know where the report button is don't you?

I am not going to get into a slanging match with you. You win

No one who spells truly as truely wins

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

There used to be a crime known as Treason which was a capital offence.

Is it still on the statutes?

IMHO anyone who blatantly and premeditatedly becomes part of any group, cult, organisation, religion, whatever with the sole aim of destroying property, our citizens our legal government etc. is guilty of Treason and should be treated accordingly.

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