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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it"

That is a sad state of affairs. I have given my seat to a pregnant lady who got onto a full bus before, but to be fair soneone else also offered at the same time i did, she took my seat though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In general, people are cunts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it"

I have been known to suggest to others that maybe they would like to allow another person to sit down.

I haven't been assaulted for it yet. When pointed out directly yet politely, most will see that fair's fair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I have been known to suggest to others that maybe they would like to allow another person to sit down.

I haven't been assaulted for it yet. When pointed out directly yet politely, most will see that fair's fair."

This.

But BE 100% sure she is pregnant first!!

I have heard how that can backfire!!

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I have been known to suggest to others that maybe they would like to allow another person to sit down.

I haven't been assaulted for it yet. When pointed out directly yet politely, most will see that fair's fair."

This!!!

I watched a lady with crutches get on the bus so I got up to give her my seat and this young woman sat down.

I couldn't actually believe my eyes. I went back over and very quietly suggested that she may want to reconsider her position before I embarrassed her very publicly.

She moved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its a sad case of affairs hun we no longer feel the need to show common curtesy n respect for people

i was brought up to respect my elders give my seat to an older person pregnant lady or mother with child

these days children are bringing up children and the ethos of respect and curtesy is sadly in my area long gone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it"

I offer my seat to any ladies as they get on the tube some turn their noses up and look at me like I'm dirt others are really grateful so I can see why people don't offer but always do it anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I offer my seat to any ladies as they get on the tube some turn their noses up and look at me like I'm dirt others are really grateful so I can see why people don't offer but always do it anyway "

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I have been known to suggest to others that maybe they would like to allow another person to sit down.

I haven't been assaulted for it yet. When pointed out directly yet politely, most will see that fair's fair.

This!!!

I watched a lady with crutches get on the bus so I got up to give her my seat and this young woman sat down.

I couldn't actually believe my eyes. I went back over and very quietly suggested that she may want to reconsider her position before I embarrassed her very publicly.

She moved. "

I would've done exactly the same thing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only stranger who EVER helped me when I was pregnant, was a boy of about sixteen, who helped me carry my buggy with one baby in, down a flight of stairs, while I was heavily pregnant with my second. A young lad. In a fast food restaurant. God bless him.

No-one else ever so much as held a door open for me, let alone offered their seat.

It is a bit sad, when you think about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only stranger who EVER helped me when I was pregnant, was a boy of about sixteen, who helped me carry my buggy with one baby in, down a flight of stairs, while I was heavily pregnant with my second. A young lad. In a fast food restaurant. God bless him.

No-one else ever so much as held a door open for me, let alone offered their seat.

It is a bit sad, when you think about it."

Always do that too carry buggies or suitcases up/ down stairs if somebody isn't able I'm a firm believer of what goes around comes around so I like spreading good deeds on the off chance of one day I might need help

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By *imply_SensualMan
over a year ago

warrington

If I see this and I am stood up, I always ask the pregnant lady if she would like to sit down and then ask one of the more ignorant passengers if they would kindly give up their seat….. it usually works.

I also offer to carry stuff up and down stairs on the tube, for anyone who looks like they might struggle anyway, male, female, young, old, pregnant - courtesy costs nowt, and Karma is too much of a bitch to turn a blind eye.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can honestly say where I come from this isn't the case.Well grounded decent working class folk who haven't forgotten courtesy and manners.

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

I had this after I fractured my hip. Came out of a hospital appointment on crutches, first in the queue at the bus stop and 3 auld biddies barged past me to get on the bus first so they could get the front seats. One of them saying, "we're pensioners, we have priority"

They were very lucky not to get my crutches wrapped round their throats!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going out on a limb here a bit, but over the years ive travelled all over this country and quite a few places overseas. There is a definite North/south divide are far as compassion goes, the further away from London you go, the nicer the people. generally speaking, some people in the South East wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire.

Sorry but it's true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Going out on a limb here a bit, but over the years ive travelled all over this country and quite a few places overseas. There is a definite North/south divide are far as compassion goes, the further away from London you go, the nicer the people. generally speaking, some people in the South East wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire.

Sorry but it's true.

"

I'm currently working in Liverpool on all estates more or less and I can honestly say they're different gravy!! Warm,polite,funny and grateful

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Going out on a limb here a bit, but over the years ive travelled all over this country and quite a few places overseas. There is a definite North/south divide are far as compassion goes, the further away from London you go, the nicer the people. generally speaking, some people in the South East wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire.

Sorry but it's true.

"

I don't agree I've been north of Watford and there are some utter twats when it comes to rudeness. I don't think we can point the finger at the north south divide.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got it absolutely drummed into me at school and from my mam that you hold doors open for people and let other people sit on the bus or train. It's just habit now I'm an adult.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

I offered my seat to an elderly and obviously frail man on a train. In return I got a tirade of abuse ... how dare I think he couldn't stand etc. that was a shock to the system.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I crossed London from Kings X to Waterloo in the summer with a heavy case.

I got help everywhere I went, and that included young lads too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In general, people are cunts. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I offered my seat to an elderly and obviously frail man on a train. In return I got a tirade of abuse ... how dare I think he couldn't stand etc. that was a shock to the system. "

Yeah sometimes that can happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I crossed London from Kings X to Waterloo in the summer with a heavy case.

I got help everywhere I went, and that included young lads too."

Little did they know it contained the body of the guy who touched you without asking in the club the night before

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I crossed London from Kings X to Waterloo in the summer with a heavy case.

I got help everywhere I went, and that included young lads too.

Little did they know it contained the body of the guy who touched you without asking in the club the night before "

Shhhhhh

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By *onyneMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

Som people can be insufferably rude, but i see people do nice things for each other as well most days

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

When forced to stand up on a bus once, complete with crutches and a massive leg brace, I had to hang on to the rails with both hands, leaving both crutches swinging from my arms...

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By *izzyRascalWoman
over a year ago

North Hants


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I have been known to suggest to others that maybe they would like to allow another person to sit down.

I haven't been assaulted for it yet. When pointed out directly yet politely, most will see that fair's fair."

I do the same. Its amazing how many people suddenly get a conscience lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london."

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it"

Another brat we taxpayers will have to keep for ever.

No way would i give her my seat.

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT


"I offered my seat to an elderly and obviously frail man on a train. In return I got a tirade of abuse ... how dare I think he couldn't stand etc. that was a shock to the system. "

I think this is one of the reasons people don't offer their seats.

Otherwise it's just them being cunts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen the all on buses and the tube. Including one mother who refused to fold her buggy for a man in a wheelchair to use the space for wheelchair users,she was screaming I know my rights,the baby has priority. Then she got off at the next stop. I've also seen people pretend not to see the big baby on board TfL badge worn by a pregnant woman. I got up after saying loudly that I was letting her have my seat so someone else didn't try to jump into it. I've seen a woman take her toddler out of it's buggy and put it beside her,taking up a buggy space she didn't need and a seat when the baby could have been on her lap. I've seen people on a packed bus sit on the outside seat and put their bag or back pack on the seat next to them. Children no longer stand up for the elderly either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

Another brat we taxpayers will have to keep for ever.

No way would i give her my seat.

]"

Who's keeping you then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered

Having just moved back from London after 30 odd years and spent much of it commuting into town I am not surprised. Can safely say it wouldn't happen on the Valleys trains. it"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now. "

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By *ochaLattoCouple
over a year ago

Portsmouth

I was on a packed bus and although I was pregnant (obviously so) I gave up my seat for a very elderly woman who needed it more as no one else moved. Then when I started to get a bit hot and tired a woman had the cheek to say 'why did you give up your seat then' errr because I'm a nice polite person. I ended up in a seat but only after people got of at there stops.

MissD

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By *fternoondelightsCouple
over a year ago

Rainham


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I have been known to suggest to others that maybe they would like to allow another person to sit down.

I haven't been assaulted for it yet. When pointed out directly yet politely, most will see that fair's fair.

This.

But BE 100% sure she is pregnant first!!

I have heard how that can backfire!!"

That happened to me once offered my seat to a lady who I thought was pregnant see look daggers at me and stormed off down the train lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

"

There's more to the South than just London the basis for all such surveys it seems.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

Another brat we taxpayers will have to keep for ever.

No way would i give her my seat.

]"

And who will most likely be working to help your pension from when you retire until you die

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I have been known to suggest to others that maybe they would like to allow another person to sit down.

I haven't been assaulted for it yet. When pointed out directly yet politely, most will see that fair's fair.

This.

But BE 100% sure she is pregnant first!!

I have heard how that can backfire!!

That happened to me once offered my seat to a lady who I thought was pregnant see look daggers at me and stormed off down the train lol "

This is why the tfl baby on board badges are a fantastic idea (unless people suddenly become blind).

I did see an old lady barge a pregnant women off a bus to get a seat once.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never had a seat offered when pregnant...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never had a seat offered when pregnant..."

I did mainly by other women.

But to be fair I didn't really look pregnant for a long time & I understand that men don't want to make that mistake.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I offer my seat to any ladies as they get on the tube some turn their noses up and look at me like I'm dirt others are really grateful so I can see why people don't offer but always do it anyway "

Offering a seat to someone simply because they are female is likely to raise a few eyebrows as it could be seen as patronising. If someone has mobility issues then it is eminently kind and sensible but simply having a vagina does not render you incapable and weak.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never had a seat offered when pregnant...

I did mainly by other women.

But to be fair I didn't really look pregnant for a long time & I understand that men don't want to make that mistake."

I was the opposite especially with the eldest I looked like octomum

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now. "

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

There's more to the South than just London the basis for all such surveys it seems."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"its a sad case of affairs hun we no longer feel the need to show common curtesy n respect for people

i was brought up to respect my elders give my seat to an older person pregnant lady or mother with child

these days children are bringing up children and the ethos of respect and curtesy is sadly in my area long gone "

That's rubbish suggesting its young mums that equal no manners in children. I don't think it's because of that at all. In general people are ruder these days but I mostly blame political correctness and in some ways the feminist that take courtesy and chivalry as some sort of insult. I saw some poor guy get told who does he think he is when holding a door open for someone. People don't want to be nice for fear of lash back in many cases

I had my children young yet all open doors for people, would help someone if needed And have given up Seats when on public transport. Most children now are in education by 2.... And I think many things like this are being lost because parents don't always have the time to teach these life skills. As many are learnt while out with your parents.

Don't blame young parents... Blame parents that don't value these ideals... And that can be at any age.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see."

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"its a sad case of affairs hun we no longer feel the need to show common curtesy n respect for people

i was brought up to respect my elders give my seat to an older person pregnant lady or mother with child

these days children are bringing up children and the ethos of respect and curtesy is sadly in my area long gone

That's rubbish suggesting its young mums that equal no manners in children. I don't think it's because of that at all. In general people are ruder these days but I mostly blame political correctness and in some ways the feminist that take courtesy and chivalry as some sort of insult. I saw some poor guy get told who does he think he is when holding a door open for someone. People don't want to be nice for fear of lash back in many cases

I had my children young yet all open doors for people, would help someone if needed And have given up Seats when on public transport. Most children now are in education by 2.... And I think many things like this are being lost because parents don't always have the time to teach these life skills. As many are learnt while out with your parents.

Don't blame young parents... Blame parents that don't value these ideals... And that can be at any age. "

The issue I witnessed yesterday involved a middle aged guy and two 30 somethings, so yeah I'd go with your assumption.

As for the north south divide point I find a lot of the rudeness is from the non nationals (cannot think of a nice way of saying without sounding like a ukip voter) so I suppose as london and surrounding areas are very diverse that would make sense as to why it seems we're ruder.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

What about the bit in the middle?

What about southerners living in the north and vice versa?

What about folk who come from different cultures?

What about those with hidden disabilities?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can honestly say where I come from this isn't the case.Well grounded decent working class folk who haven't forgotten courtesy and manners."

Same here. If someone pointedly refused to stand, the daggers they would be getting could be felt from a mile away.

I've been on the bus or train a few times and a person old enough to call me "young man" has dumped there belongings on the window seat to ensure that nobody sits next to them. I make a beeline for these people and get them to move there things and move up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I crossed London from Kings X to Waterloo in the summer with a heavy case.

I got help everywhere I went, and that included young lads too."

Were you wearing that top and eating a banana though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now. "

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I offer my seat to any ladies as they get on the tube some turn their noses up and look at me like I'm dirt others are really grateful so I can see why people don't offer but always do it anyway

Offering a seat to someone simply because they are female is likely to raise a few eyebrows as it could be seen as patronising. If someone has mobility issues then it is eminently kind and sensible but simply having a vagina does not render you incapable and weak."

They can raise their eyebrows all they like. It's my choice to give up my seat. If they would prefer to stand for the whole journey while delivering a diatribe at me for being polite, that's their choice too. But their loss ultimately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm."

So because people make a joke it's true ?

So all mother in laws are cunts

All Irish people are thick

All blondes are dumb

Give me strength.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I offer my seat to any ladies as they get on the tube some turn their noses up and look at me like I'm dirt others are really grateful so I can see why people don't offer but always do it anyway

Offering a seat to someone simply because they are female is likely to raise a few eyebrows as it could be seen as patronising. If someone has mobility issues then it is eminently kind and sensible but simply having a vagina does not render you incapable and weak.

They can raise their eyebrows all they like. It's my choice to give up my seat. If they would prefer to stand for the whole journey while delivering a diatribe at me for being polite, that's their choice too. But their loss ultimately."

Politeness is in the eye of the beholder. Suggesting that a person is too weak to stand because they own a pair of ovaries is only polite in some people's book and the associated "weaker sex" bullshit that goes with it also comes with lower wages, lack of self determination etc etc. Weirdly some women get upset about all that stuff.

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over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south."

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

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over a year ago


"its a sad case of affairs hun we no longer feel the need to show common curtesy n respect for people

i was brought up to respect my elders give my seat to an older person pregnant lady or mother with child

these days children are bringing up children and the ethos of respect and curtesy is sadly in my area long gone

That's rubbish suggesting its young mums that equal no manners in children. I don't think it's because of that at all. In general people are ruder these days but I mostly blame political correctness and in some ways the feminist that take courtesy and chivalry as some sort of insult. I saw some poor guy get told who does he think he is when holding a door open for someone. People don't want to be nice for fear of lash back in many cases

I had my children young yet all open doors for people, would help someone if needed And have given up Seats when on public transport. Most children now are in education by 2.... And I think many things like this are being lost because parents don't always have the time to teach these life skills. As many are learnt while out with your parents.

Don't blame young parents... Blame parents that don't value these ideals... And that can be at any age. "

So don't blame young parents, but blame parents who go back to work and put their children into childcare?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't necessarily agree there's a north/south divide but London is a place unto its own. It's so crowded and hectic and stressful to get around that it has a bad effect on people. I'm certainly a lot less friendly or helpful on the Tube than I am on the Metro back home because I'm trying not to get lost or crushed.

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over a year ago


"I don't necessarily agree there's a north/south divide but London is a place unto its own. It's so crowded and hectic and stressful to get around that it has a bad effect on people. I'm certainly a lot less friendly or helpful on the Tube than I am on the Metro back home because I'm trying not to get lost or crushed."

You wont get crushed with them air bags ruby

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over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I offer my seat to any ladies as they get on the tube some turn their noses up and look at me like I'm dirt others are really grateful so I can see why people don't offer but always do it anyway

Offering a seat to someone simply because they are female is likely to raise a few eyebrows as it could be seen as patronising. If someone has mobility issues then it is eminently kind and sensible but simply having a vagina does not render you incapable and weak.

They can raise their eyebrows all they like. It's my choice to give up my seat. If they would prefer to stand for the whole journey while delivering a diatribe at me for being polite, that's their choice too. But their loss ultimately.

Politeness is in the eye of the beholder. Suggesting that a person is too weak to stand because they own a pair of ovaries is only polite in some people's book and the associated "weaker sex" bullshit that goes with it also comes with lower wages, lack of self determination etc etc. Weirdly some women get upset about all that stuff."

But their is no suggestion on my part that a woman is too weak to stand. If that's the inference she decides to draw from my actions, that's her choice. Please don't assume there is a direct link with polite behaviour and inequality in the workplace. They are totally separate issues.

Lower wages are only truly seen in jobs that when put out to advertisement are "salary negotiable". Ive yet to srr a job with a two stated salaries, for men and women.If your not prepared to negotiate as hard, then perhaps your weak. I don't know, I've never met you.

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over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm.

So because people make a joke it's true ?

So all mother in laws are cunts

All Irish people are thick

All blondes are dumb

Give me strength. "

Northern comedians, when playing to a London audience use the rudeness that's endemic on the public transport systems as a way to make jokes, because they are playing to a London audience who know it to be true! Christ, even London comics make jokes about it.

Do you find riding on public transport in London a pleasant experience where you could talk to fellow passengers, or is it a slow torture of silence, jostling elbows and as little personal interaction as possible?

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over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm.

So because people make a joke it's true ?

So all mother in laws are cunts

All Irish people are thick

All blondes are dumb

Give me strength.

Northern comedians, when playing to a London audience use the rudeness that's endemic on the public transport systems as a way to make jokes, because they are playing to a London audience who know it to be true! Christ, even London comics make jokes about it.

Do you find riding on public transport in London a pleasant experience where you could talk to fellow passengers, or is it a slow torture of silence, jostling elbows and as little personal interaction as possible? "

It's as a pleasant a trip as I care to make it. I often engage with fellow passengers and have on more than one occasion pulled on the tube.

Last month I was offered a World Cup quarter final ticket on the tube as I was chatting to some fella who was on his way there.

Maybe you northerners are threatened by our superior intellect so go quiet on the tube for fear of feeling inadequate.

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over a year ago

My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

when they are old and need a seat I hope nobody gives up theirs then they will know what its like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A gentleman never owns a seat on public transport. He is merely keeping it warm until someone who needs it alights.

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over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm.

So because people make a joke it's true ?

So all mother in laws are cunts

All Irish people are thick

All blondes are dumb

Give me strength.

Northern comedians, when playing to a London audience use the rudeness that's endemic on the public transport systems as a way to make jokes, because they are playing to a London audience who know it to be true! Christ, even London comics make jokes about it.

Do you find riding on public transport in London a pleasant experience where you could talk to fellow passengers, or is it a slow torture of silence, jostling elbows and as little personal interaction as possible?

It's as a pleasant a trip as I care to make it. I often engage with fellow passengers and have on more than one occasion pulled on the tube.

Last month I was offered a World Cup quarter final ticket on the tube as I was chatting to some fella who was on his way there.

Maybe you northerners are threatened by our superior intellect so go quiet on the tube for fear of feeling inadequate. "

I wish I had a pair of your rose tinted glasses. Having said that, we don't need them up here. It's wonderful enough.

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over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm.

So because people make a joke it's true ?

So all mother in laws are cunts

All Irish people are thick

All blondes are dumb

Give me strength.

Northern comedians, when playing to a London audience use the rudeness that's endemic on the public transport systems as a way to make jokes, because they are playing to a London audience who know it to be true! Christ, even London comics make jokes about it.

Do you find riding on public transport in London a pleasant experience where you could talk to fellow passengers, or is it a slow torture of silence, jostling elbows and as little personal interaction as possible?

It's as a pleasant a trip as I care to make it. I often engage with fellow passengers and have on more than one occasion pulled on the tube.

Last month I was offered a World Cup quarter final ticket on the tube as I was chatting to some fella who was on his way there.

Maybe you northerners are threatened by our superior intellect so go quiet on the tube for fear of feeling inadequate.

I wish I had a pair of your rose tinted glasses. Having said that, we don't need them up here. It's wonderful enough. "

It's ok up there , until you turn the lights on.

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over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older."

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

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over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older."

How old were your children?

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over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one. "

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

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over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I have been known to suggest to others that maybe they would like to allow another person to sit down.

I haven't been assaulted for it yet. When pointed out directly yet politely, most will see that fair's fair.

This!!!

I watched a lady with crutches get on the bus so I got up to give her my seat and this young woman sat down.

I couldn't actually believe my eyes. I went back over and very quietly suggested that she may want to reconsider her position before I embarrassed her very publicly.

She moved. "

I had this on a tube in London once, I man got on holding a very young baby so I stood up to let him sit down but a guy pushed through and sat down before the man I stood up for got the chance, I just looked at him and shook my head and the guy I stood up for laughed and said....your not from round here are you? And thanked me anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older."

I was taught to always stand if an adult got on public transport. It's the correct thing to do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work for a large organisation and political correctness is drummed into us. As a man I'm not being PC if I hold a door open for a lady and have been brought to task several times. Luckily being an old git I just say it is how all decent kids were brought up and I'm to old to change now.

Manners cost nothing. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"its a sad case of affairs hun we no longer feel the need to show common curtesy n respect for people

i was brought up to respect my elders give my seat to an older person pregnant lady or mother with child

these days children are bringing up children and the ethos of respect and curtesy is sadly in my area long gone "

Fun fact rates of teenage pregnancy are the lowest they've been since the 60's

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over a year ago


"I work for a large organisation and political correctness is drummed into us. As a man I'm not being PC if I hold a door open for a lady and have been brought to task several times. Luckily being an old git I just say it is how all decent kids were brought up and I'm to old to change now.

Manners cost nothing. X"

Do you hold the door for men too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older."

I'm with you on this one, I would never make my 14 year old daughter stand up for an able bodied adult, to me a person in their 30s or 40s are just as capable of standing up as a teenager, if the person was elderly or disabled that's different I would stand up for them myself, I would never make my daughter stand up for someone else while I sat down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older."

Most pensioners on buses won't have paid for their seats, and children will have paid half fare so I don't really go by that argument. Generally speaking it's able bodied adults who've paid full fare anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

I was taught to always stand if an adult got on public transport. It's the correct thing to do "

Would you take a child's seat on a crowded, moving bus or train because I wouldn't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

I'm with you on this one, I would never make my 14 year old daughter stand up for an able bodied adult, to me a person in their 30s or 40s are just as capable of standing up as a teenager, if the person was elderly or disabled that's different I would stand up for them myself, I would never make my daughter stand up for someone else while I sat down "

That's a shame. I just think respect for adults is a decent thing to instill in a child or teenager. If offered a seat I never accept it, but I always offered when I was that age and would bring children of mine up to do the same. It looks like I'm out of step with modern public opinion on this one though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

Most pensioners on buses won't have paid for their seats, and children will have paid half fare so I don't really go by that argument. Generally speaking it's able bodied adults who've paid full fare anyway. "

She said train...

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over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I have been known to suggest to others that maybe they would like to allow another person to sit down.

I haven't been assaulted for it yet. When pointed out directly yet politely, most will see that fair's fair.

This.

But BE 100% sure she is pregnant first!!

I have heard how that can backfire!!"

What should we give gynaceology on the train?

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over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm.

So because people make a joke it's true ?

So all mother in laws are cunts

All Irish people are thick

All blondes are dumb

Give me strength.

Northern comedians, when playing to a London audience use the rudeness that's endemic on the public transport systems as a way to make jokes, because they are playing to a London audience who know it to be true! Christ, even London comics make jokes about it.

Do you find riding on public transport in London a pleasant experience where you could talk to fellow passengers, or is it a slow torture of silence, jostling elbows and as little personal interaction as possible?

It's as a pleasant a trip as I care to make it. I often engage with fellow passengers and have on more than one occasion pulled on the tube.

Last month I was offered a World Cup quarter final ticket on the tube as I was chatting to some fella who was on his way there.

Maybe you northerners are threatened by our superior intellect so go quiet on the tube for fear of feeling inadequate. "

lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

I'm with you on this one, I would never make my 14 year old daughter stand up for an able bodied adult, to me a person in their 30s or 40s are just as capable of standing up as a teenager, if the person was elderly or disabled that's different I would stand up for them myself, I would never make my daughter stand up for someone else while I sat down

That's a shame. I just think respect for adults is a decent thing to instill in a child or teenager. If offered a seat I never accept it, but I always offered when I was that age and would bring children of mine up to do the same. It looks like I'm out of step with modern public opinion on this one though. "

It's not a shame, if somebody needed a seat I would give them mine, why should my child stand up while I'm sat down?

Saying that if somebody got on who needed a seat she would offer hers herself she wouldn't need me to tell her but I would then give her my seat

I just don't see why a child should stand up for a young able bodies adult surely it's safer for the child to sit down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

I was taught to always stand if an adult got on public transport. It's the correct thing to do

Would you take a child's seat on a crowded, moving bus or train because I wouldn't "

It's not the acceptance but the offering that's important here.

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over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related. "

Haha you deserve a medal!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

I'm with you on this one, I would never make my 14 year old daughter stand up for an able bodied adult, to me a person in their 30s or 40s are just as capable of standing up as a teenager, if the person was elderly or disabled that's different I would stand up for them myself, I would never make my daughter stand up for someone else while I sat down

That's a shame. I just think respect for adults is a decent thing to instill in a child or teenager. If offered a seat I never accept it, but I always offered when I was that age and would bring children of mine up to do the same. It looks like I'm out of step with modern public opinion on this one though.

It's not a shame, if somebody needed a seat I would give them mine, why should my child stand up while I'm sat down?

Saying that if somebody got on who needed a seat she would offer hers herself she wouldn't need me to tell her but I would then give her my seat

I just don't see why a child should stand up for a young able bodies adult surely it's safer for the child to sit down "

Yeah if it's like a 5 year old or something of course it's safer. Just the way I was brought up, which is that while you're a child you defer to an adult, whether that's on the bus or a policeman or a teacher or whatever. And there is absolutely no way I'd sit down on a bus while my mam was stood up, when I was a child or now.

Actually thinking about it, my metro stop is after a school, and a lot of the kids do offer up their seats, so maybe I'm not a totally dying breed.

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over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south."

Bull!

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

If It's on the tube or bus then I will get up - if I have reserved a seat on a then really I shouldn't get up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In general, people are cunts. "

Lol a little extreme

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

Bull! "

Now, you see, that reply just proved the point!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

I'm with you on this one, I would never make my 14 year old daughter stand up for an able bodied adult, to me a person in their 30s or 40s are just as capable of standing up as a teenager, if the person was elderly or disabled that's different I would stand up for them myself, I would never make my daughter stand up for someone else while I sat down

That's a shame. I just think respect for adults is a decent thing to instill in a child or teenager. If offered a seat I never accept it, but I always offered when I was that age and would bring children of mine up to do the same. It looks like I'm out of step with modern public opinion on this one though.

It's not a shame, if somebody needed a seat I would give them mine, why should my child stand up while I'm sat down?

Saying that if somebody got on who needed a seat she would offer hers herself she wouldn't need me to tell her but I would then give her my seat

I just don't see why a child should stand up for a young able bodies adult surely it's safer for the child to sit down

Yeah if it's like a 5 year old or something of course it's safer. Just the way I was brought up, which is that while you're a child you defer to an adult, whether that's on the bus or a policeman or a teacher or whatever. And there is absolutely no way I'd sit down on a bus while my mam was stood up, when I was a child or now.

Actually thinking about it, my metro stop is after a school, and a lot of the kids do offer up their seats, so maybe I'm not a totally dying breed. "

My eldest daughter had to have a operation on her legs when she was 18 because she had short hamstrings which ment she had no flexibility in her feet so her balance was unsteady and she needed walking aids

Everyday she used to get the bus to and from school and on days when it was full not a single adult ever stood up for her while she was stood their in her uniform and sticks

Adults don't stand for kids not even ones who clearly have walking difficulties

Maybe it's made me cynical

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

I'm with you on this one, I would never make my 14 year old daughter stand up for an able bodied adult, to me a person in their 30s or 40s are just as capable of standing up as a teenager, if the person was elderly or disabled that's different I would stand up for them myself, I would never make my daughter stand up for someone else while I sat down "

That's fair enough, what I hate seeing is a parent with a young child sat next to them taking up a seat. My 5 year old always sits on my lap, unless the bus or train is very empty. On the tube she would sit on my lap anyway for safety.

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

London is the worst for the most selfish people on the underground/trains. Got off at a station in london with no lift, and this woman struggled to lift her pushchair and baby up the stairs while about 30 blokes bigger and stronger than me walked past her without offering to help. I lifted it up the stairs for her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't it funny how every guy on here so far so gallantly offers their seat/carries prams/throws old ladies over their shoulders?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related. "

Exactly this! It's like saying because the daily mail said it it must be true.

I've been up north and treated like shit many times, I've been on holiday and notice some of the rudest people there are from Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds & Newcastle or does that not count because they are on holiday?

Anyway back to the original point, I don't know where each person on that particular train came from for all I know they could have been all from the midlands still isn't right they ignored a pregnant lady. On a lighter note I'm currently sat next to a pregnant lady and someone moved out of her way so she could get the seat which was a welcoming sight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I have been known to suggest to others that maybe they would like to allow another person to sit down.

I haven't been assaulted for it yet. When pointed out directly yet politely, most will see that fair's fair.

This.

But BE 100% sure she is pregnant first!!

I have heard how that can backfire!!"

Too true, and all to easy to get wrong.

I think in general most people are still polite and friendly I find youngsters from all walks of life friendly these days, maybe due to growing my hair longer which is very grey these days I even get offered a seat, now that is embarrassing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I know there was at least one nice person in London today a poor woman was bawling her eyes out and the guy went and made sure she was ok ask if she wanted to talk about her problems as sometimes talking to a stranger can help at that she smiled thanked him hugged him and walked off!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I know there was at least one nice person in London today a poor woman was bawling her eyes out and the guy went and made sure she was ok ask if she wanted to talk about her problems as sometimes talking to a stranger can help at that she smiled thanked him hugged him and walked off!"

Exactly and very nice to know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody women will do anything to get seat on a train these days!

To be honest though - as soon as I'm on a bus or train I turn off to my surroundings and either think about the day or occupy my mind with something else, so I've probably been guilty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mum is always talking to strangers.

There was a young man in Reading recently sitting on a block in the town centre. My mum walked past him, noticed he looked really miserable so went back and asked if he was OK.

He said his girlfriend had dumped him so my mum gave the whole spiel about maybe she wasn't right for him, that he was young etc, etc and gave him a toblerone that she had

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My mum is always talking to strangers.

There was a young man in Reading recently sitting on a block in the town centre. My mum walked past him, noticed he looked really miserable so went back and asked if he was OK.

He said his girlfriend had dumped him so my mum gave the whole spiel about maybe she wasn't right for him, that he was young etc, etc and gave him a toblerone that she had "

I like your mum already they are like that, interesting choice of confectionary though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My mum is always talking to strangers.

There was a young man in Reading recently sitting on a block in the town centre. My mum walked past him, noticed he looked really miserable so went back and asked if he was OK.

He said his girlfriend had dumped him so my mum gave the whole spiel about maybe she wasn't right for him, that he was young etc, etc and gave him a toblerone that she had

I like your mum already they are like that, interesting choice of confectionary though"

It's what she had on her at the time.

I told my work colleagues that if they fancied some free chocolate, they just had to sit somewhere looking miserable when she was next in town and hey presto, they'd be sorted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My mum is always talking to strangers.

There was a young man in Reading recently sitting on a block in the town centre. My mum walked past him, noticed he looked really miserable so went back and asked if he was OK.

He said his girlfriend had dumped him so my mum gave the whole spiel about maybe she wasn't right for him, that he was young etc, etc and gave him a toblerone that she had

I like your mum already they are like that, interesting choice of confectionary though

It's what she had on her at the time.

I told my work colleagues that if they fancied some free chocolate, they just had to sit somewhere looking miserable when she was next in town and hey presto, they'd be sorted "

Hmmm not sure this is a good idea, not supposed to accept sweeties from strangers, I can feel a plot for a novel coming on. Toblerone serial killer on the loose

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My mum is always talking to strangers.

There was a young man in Reading recently sitting on a block in the town centre. My mum walked past him, noticed he looked really miserable so went back and asked if he was OK.

He said his girlfriend had dumped him so my mum gave the whole spiel about maybe she wasn't right for him, that he was young etc, etc and gave him a toblerone that she had

I like your mum already they are like that, interesting choice of confectionary though

It's what she had on her at the time.

I told my work colleagues that if they fancied some free chocolate, they just had to sit somewhere looking miserable when she was next in town and hey presto, they'd be sorted

Hmmm not sure this is a good idea, not supposed to accept sweeties from strangers, I can feel a plot for a novel coming on. Toblerone serial killer on the loose"

Who happens to be a rude southerner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My mum is always talking to strangers.

There was a young man in Reading recently sitting on a block in the town centre. My mum walked past him, noticed he looked really miserable so went back and asked if he was OK.

He said his girlfriend had dumped him so my mum gave the whole spiel about maybe she wasn't right for him, that he was young etc, etc and gave him a toblerone that she had

I like your mum already they are like that, interesting choice of confectionary though

It's what she had on her at the time.

I told my work colleagues that if they fancied some free chocolate, they just had to sit somewhere looking miserable when she was next in town and hey presto, they'd be sorted

Hmmm not sure this is a good idea, not supposed to accept sweeties from strangers, I can feel a plot for a novel coming on. Toblerone serial killer on the loose

Who happens to be a rude southerner"

yes pretending to be really kind like those people up north

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm.

So because people make a joke it's true ?

So all mother in laws are cunts

All Irish people are thick

All blondes are dumb

Give me strength.

Northern comedians, when playing to a London audience use the rudeness that's endemic on the public transport systems as a way to make jokes, because they are playing to a London audience who know it to be true! Christ, even London comics make jokes about it.

Do you find riding on public transport in London a pleasant experience where you could talk to fellow passengers, or is it a slow torture of silence, jostling elbows and as little personal interaction as possible?

It's as a pleasant a trip as I care to make it. I often engage with fellow passengers and have on more than one occasion pulled on the tube.

Last month I was offered a World Cup quarter final ticket on the tube as I was chatting to some fella who was on his way there.

Maybe you northerners are threatened by our superior intellect so go quiet on the tube for fear of feeling inadequate. "

Christ someone's definitely pissed on your chips!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south."

Being from the North but spent many years living in the South that's not been my experience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it"
just so you know I would have been up like a shot and she would be seated ,I even get up for couples and families if it allows them to get to sit together

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By *lack Shoe Red SoulCouple
over a year ago

North Hampshire

Some of these posts have had me howling.... it's sad how a post about politeness has ended up being about the usual north/south divide

I always offer up my seat if it's needed, have helped people up and down stairs with buggys/suitcases etc etc

It's not about where you are from - it's about how you were dragged up!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm.

So because people make a joke it's true ?

So all mother in laws are cunts

All Irish people are thick

All blondes are dumb

Give me strength.

Northern comedians, when playing to a London audience use the rudeness that's endemic on the public transport systems as a way to make jokes, because they are playing to a London audience who know it to be true! Christ, even London comics make jokes about it.

Do you find riding on public transport in London a pleasant experience where you could talk to fellow passengers, or is it a slow torture of silence, jostling elbows and as little personal interaction as possible?

It's as a pleasant a trip as I care to make it. I often engage with fellow passengers and have on more than one occasion pulled on the tube.

Last month I was offered a World Cup quarter final ticket on the tube as I was chatting to some fella who was on his way there.

Maybe you northerners are threatened by our superior intellect so go quiet on the tube for fear of feeling inadequate.

Christ someone's definitely pissed on your chips! "

I'd rather that than gravy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

Most pensioners on buses won't have paid for their seats, and children will have paid half fare so I don't really go by that argument. Generally speaking it's able bodied adults who've paid full fare anyway. "

I'm not saying I wouldn't expect my children to get up for a pensioner, but for someone able bodied why should they need too? The child would then have to stand up to hear (around here) a adult Swearing where's the manners in that? Dog eat Dog world out there, I would like to think my children use there manners at there discretion. There's no point in showing someone who's boozed up to the eyes balls or someone who won't appricate manners

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

Most pensioners on buses won't have paid for their seats, and children will have paid half fare so I don't really go by that argument. Generally speaking it's able bodied adults who've paid full fare anyway.

I'm not saying I wouldn't expect my children to get up for a pensioner, but for someone able bodied why should they need too? The child would then have to stand up to hear (around here) a adult Swearing where's the manners in that? Dog eat Dog world out there, I would like to think my children use there manners at there discretion. There's no point in showing someone who's boozed up to the eyes balls or someone who won't appricate manners "

Fair enough. What kind of buses do you get on though that they can't hear the swearing while sat down? Are they magic?

It's not a dog eat dog world, it's a world which would be a lot nicer if everyone was a bit more considerate towards each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My son will stand up for an older person on a bus or short train journey, but when he's going to see his dad in York and I've pre-booked him a seat and some old dear has sat in his seat, then he has every right to tell them to move.

They could have booked their own bloody seat.

Not that he did, he just moaned at me about it on the phone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm.

So because people make a joke it's true ?

So all mother in laws are cunts

All Irish people are thick

All blondes are dumb

Give me strength.

Northern comedians, when playing to a London audience use the rudeness that's endemic on the public transport systems as a way to make jokes, because they are playing to a London audience who know it to be true! Christ, even London comics make jokes about it.

Do you find riding on public transport in London a pleasant experience where you could talk to fellow passengers, or is it a slow torture of silence, jostling elbows and as little personal interaction as possible?

It's as a pleasant a trip as I care to make it. I often engage with fellow passengers and have on more than one occasion pulled on the tube.

Last month I was offered a World Cup quarter final ticket on the tube as I was chatting to some fella who was on his way there.

Maybe you northerners are threatened by our superior intellect so go quiet on the tube for fear of feeling inadequate.

Christ someone's definitely pissed on your chips!

I'd rather that than gravy. "

Southern wuss lol!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"London is the worst for the most selfish people on the underground/trains. Got off at a station in london with no lift, and this woman struggled to lift her pushchair and baby up the stairs while about 30 blokes bigger and stronger than me walked past her without offering to help. I lifted it up the stairs for her."

I've offered to help and recived a mixture of relived thanks or abuse.

So now I'll help if asked or if they're looking round like they want to ask but are too shy to.

Otherwise i just walk past there's only so many times you can be ranted at in front of a crowd of people before you just give up on helping people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

Most pensioners on buses won't have paid for their seats, and children will have paid half fare so I don't really go by that argument. Generally speaking it's able bodied adults who've paid full fare anyway.

I'm not saying I wouldn't expect my children to get up for a pensioner, but for someone able bodied why should they need too? The child would then have to stand up to hear (around here) a adult Swearing where's the manners in that? Dog eat Dog world out there, I would like to think my children use there manners at there discretion. There's no point in showing someone who's boozed up to the eyes balls or someone who won't appricate manners

Fair enough. What kind of buses do you get on though that they can't hear the swearing while sat down? Are they magic?

It's not a dog eat dog world, it's a world which would be a lot nicer if everyone was a bit more considerate towards each other. "

Odd statement when your proposing the majority of the population be less considerate to a minority group.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Going out on a limb here a bit, but over the years ive travelled all over this country and quite a few places overseas. There is a definite North/south divide are far as compassion goes, the further away from London you go, the nicer the people. generally speaking, some people in the South East wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire.

Sorry but it's true.

I don't agree I've been north of Watford and there are some utter twats when it comes to rudeness. I don't think we can point the finger at the north south divide. "

There are some rude people in the South yes, old, young, adults, ive encountered them. But I have also encountered more polite people than rude people, myself being one of them. If im aware of someone behind me, I always hold the door open, regardless of age or pregnancy etc. I held the door open for a teenager this week, got a polite thank you. Made my day actually, the small things do that for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

Most pensioners on buses won't have paid for their seats, and children will have paid half fare so I don't really go by that argument. Generally speaking it's able bodied adults who've paid full fare anyway.

I'm not saying I wouldn't expect my children to get up for a pensioner, but for someone able bodied why should they need too? The child would then have to stand up to hear (around here) a adult Swearing where's the manners in that? Dog eat Dog world out there, I would like to think my children use there manners at there discretion. There's no point in showing someone who's boozed up to the eyes balls or someone who won't appricate manners

Fair enough. What kind of buses do you get on though that they can't hear the swearing while sat down? Are they magic?

It's not a dog eat dog world, it's a world which would be a lot nicer if everyone was a bit more considerate towards each other.

Odd statement when your proposing the majority of the population be less considerate to a minority group."

It's not inconsiderate in the slightest. I don't feel elderly people are being inconsiderate to me expecting me to offer them a seat, I'm not being inconsiderate to a teenager expecting them to offer an adult a seat. And it's temporary, they will grow into adults. Probably precisely the kind of adults referred to in the OP more's the pity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"....... I've seen people on a packed bus sit on the outside seat and put their bag or back pack on the seat next to them....."

I'm these peoples worst nightmare, I actively seek them out on a busy bus or train and ask them if they wouldn't mind lifting their bag so I can sit down. I've had huffs and puffs, rolled eyes and sighs, I just point out I've paid for a seat, their bag hasn't. People who are pretending to sleep don't get of either, I'll wake them up to ask them to move their bags. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"....... I've seen people on a packed bus sit on the outside seat and put their bag or back pack on the seat next to them.....

I'm these peoples worst nightmare, I actively seek them out on a busy bus or train and ask them if they wouldn't mind lifting their bag so I can sit down. I've had huffs and puffs, rolled eyes and sighs, I just point out I've paid for a seat, their bag hasn't. People who are pretending to sleep don't get of either, I'll wake them up to ask them to move their bags. Lol "

Me too, I've no problem with sitting on someone's belongings if they won't move them either

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

I travel into London once a week with my sister who has cancer to go to hospital. Very difficult to find seats on tube and it is fairly obvious she is not well. Never had anyone offer seat, that's the way of the world!

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now. "

I've lived in both and it's not a myth at all.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I'm these peoples worst nightmare, I actively seek them out on a busy bus or train and ask them if they wouldn't mind lifting their bag so I can sit down. I've had huffs and puffs, rolled eyes and sighs, I just point out I've paid for a seat, their bag hasn't. People who are pretending to sleep don't get of either, I'll wake them up to ask them to move their bags. Lol "

I tell people to be quiet in the quiet coach too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I travel into London once a week with my sister who has cancer to go to hospital. Very difficult to find seats on tube and it is fairly obvious she is not well. Never had anyone offer seat, that's the way of the world!"

People don't always offer as they can get an indignant retort back.

I've asked to sit before when I felt faint ( I was pregnant but didn't show) and people were on the whole pretty accommodating.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

Most pensioners on buses won't have paid for their seats, and children will have paid half fare so I don't really go by that argument. Generally speaking it's able bodied adults who've paid full fare anyway.

I'm not saying I wouldn't expect my children to get up for a pensioner, but for someone able bodied why should they need too? The child would then have to stand up to hear (around here) a adult Swearing where's the manners in that? Dog eat Dog world out there, I would like to think my children use there manners at there discretion. There's no point in showing someone who's boozed up to the eyes balls or someone who won't appricate manners

Fair enough. What kind of buses do you get on though that they can't hear the swearing while sat down? Are they magic?

It's not a dog eat dog world, it's a world which would be a lot nicer if everyone was a bit more considerate towards each other. "

They obviously will hear bad language but they will feel protected sitting next to there dad rather then standing up.

Luckily they don't have to travel on Public transport to often.

In a ideal world yes showing consideration would be much nicer but we don't live in a ideal world. Up until then I would under no circumstances ask my child to stand up

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I travel into London once a week with my sister who has cancer to go to hospital. Very difficult to find seats on tube and it is fairly obvious she is not well. Never had anyone offer seat, that's the way of the world!

People don't always offer as they can get an indignant retort back.

I've asked to sit before when I felt faint ( I was pregnant but didn't show) and people were on the whole pretty accommodating. "

They just stuck their heads in a newspaper, unfortunately, my sister is too proud to ask for a seat, silly girl, so her fault, I suppose, but they wouldn't get an indignant retort from her, she would be very grateful.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"London is the worst for the most selfish people on the underground/trains. Got off at a station in london with no lift, and this woman struggled to lift her pushchair and baby up the stairs while about 30 blokes bigger and stronger than me walked past her without offering to help. I lifted it up the stairs for her.

I've offered to help and recived a mixture of relived thanks or abuse.

So now I'll help if asked or if they're looking round like they want to ask but are too shy to.

Otherwise i just walk past there's only so many times you can be ranted at in front of a crowd of people before you

5just give up on helping people"

That's a shame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I travel into London once a week with my sister who has cancer to go to hospital. Very difficult to find seats on tube and it is fairly obvious she is not well. Never had anyone offer seat, that's the way of the world!

People don't always offer as they can get an indignant retort back.

I've asked to sit before when I felt faint ( I was pregnant but didn't show) and people were on the whole pretty accommodating.

They just stuck their heads in a newspaper, unfortunately, my sister is too proud to ask for a seat, silly girl, so her fault, I suppose, but they wouldn't get an indignant retort from her, she would be very grateful."

Well we're all different in what we feel comfortable doing.

Might be worth having a go if she is feeling rough, people seem to take notice if they think you're either going to pass out or be sick on them...

Wishing you all the best, I know how tough cancer treament can be ~ she'll be needing all the little comforts in life right now xx

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I travel into London once a week with my sister who has cancer to go to hospital. Very difficult to find seats on tube and it is fairly obvious she is not well. Never had anyone offer seat, that's the way of the world!

People don't always offer as they can get an indignant retort back.

I've asked to sit before when I felt faint ( I was pregnant but didn't show) and people were on the whole pretty accommodating.

They just stuck their heads in a newspaper, unfortunately, my sister is too proud to ask for a seat, silly girl, so her fault, I suppose, but they wouldn't get an indignant retort from her, she would be very grateful.

Well we're all different in what we feel comfortable doing.

Might be worth having a go if she is feeling rough, people seem to take notice if they think you're either going to pass out or be sick on them...

Wishing you all the best, I know how tough cancer treament can be ~ she'll be needing all the little comforts in life right now xx

"

Thank you, that's very sweet of you. She thinks she's Wonderwoman and she is to me!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I've lived in both and it's not a myth at all."

Maybe myth was the wrong word. I should have saiid the blatant lie that northerners are more friendly is getting tiresome.

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I offer my seat to any ladies as they get on the tube some turn their noses up and look at me like I'm dirt others are really grateful so I can see why people don't offer but always do it anyway "

I have found this as well. Some seem to really resent the fact that I've offered up my seat for them. I was also brought up to hold a door for someone if they're following me, and I've had abuse for doing that! Damned if you do, damned if you don't At least I know I tried to help someone

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london


"I can honestly say where I come from this isn't the case.Well grounded decent working class folk who haven't forgotten courtesy and manners.

Same here. If someone pointedly refused to stand, the daggers they would be getting could be felt from a mile away.

I've been on the bus or train a few times and a person old enough to call me "young man" has dumped there belongings on the window seat to ensure that nobody sits next to them. I make a beeline for these people and get them to move there things and move up."

Good on you. I loathe them.

Hope you accidentally tread on their corns as you get off.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

Exactly this! It's like saying because the daily mail said it it must be true.

I've been up north and treated like shit many times, I've been on holiday and notice some of the rudest people there are from Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds & Newcastle or does that not count because they are on holiday?

Anyway back to the original point, I don't know where each person on that particular train came from for all I know they could have been all from the midlands still isn't right they ignored a pregnant lady. On a lighter note I'm currently sat next to a pregnant lady and someone moved out of her way so she could get the seat which was a welcoming sight. "

like I said not everyone is the same, you will get good and bad from north and south but more good from north and more bad from south.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I've lived in both and it's not a myth at all.

Maybe myth was the wrong word. I should have saiid the blatant lie that northerners are more friendly is getting tiresome. "

its neither a myth or a lie.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

I offer my seat to any ladies as they get on the tube some turn their noses up and look at me like I'm dirt others are really grateful so I can see why people don't offer but always do it anyway

I have found this as well. Some seem to really resent the fact that I've offered up my seat for them. I was also brought up to hold a door for someone if they're following me, and I've had abuse for doing that! Damned if you do, damned if you don't At least I know I tried to help someone"

Well done you! I was brought up to accept a gentleman's good manners, so it's a 10 from me!!

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related. "

and this just goes to prove that point.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I've seen the all on buses and the tube. Including one mother who refused to fold her buggy for a man in a wheelchair to use the space for wheelchair users,she was screaming I know my rights,the baby has priority. Then she got off at the next stop. I've also seen people pretend not to see the big baby on board TfL badge worn by a pregnant woman. I got up after saying loudly that I was letting her have my seat so someone else didn't try to jump into it. I've seen a woman take her toddler out of it's buggy and put it beside her,taking up a buggy space she didn't need and a seat when the baby could have been on her lap. I've seen people on a packed bus sit on the outside seat and put their bag or back pack on the seat next to them. Children no longer stand up for the elderly either. "

See this daily! The train I travel on has 10 carriages. By the time it gets to Crystal Palace it's standing room only, so you can imagine the squeeze when Southern run a four carriage train.

Will some of the twats remove their backpacks from their back or the seat?!! Will they fuck!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point."

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

Most pensioners on buses won't have paid for their seats, and children will have paid half fare so I don't really go by that argument. Generally speaking it's able bodied adults who've paid full fare anyway.

I'm not saying I wouldn't expect my children to get up for a pensioner, but for someone able bodied why should they need too? The child would then have to stand up to hear (around here) a adult Swearing where's the manners in that? Dog eat Dog world out there, I would like to think my children use there manners at there discretion. There's no point in showing someone who's boozed up to the eyes balls or someone who won't appricate manners

Fair enough. What kind of buses do you get on though that they can't hear the swearing while sat down? Are they magic?

It's not a dog eat dog world, it's a world which would be a lot nicer if everyone was a bit more considerate towards each other.

They obviously will hear bad language but they will feel protected sitting next to there dad rather then standing up.

Luckily they don't have to travel on Public transport to often.

In a ideal world yes showing consideration would be much nicer but we don't live in a ideal world. Up until then I would under no circumstances ask my child to stand up "

We don't live in an ideal world because people like you say we don't and use that as your excuse for your own bad behaviour. Your child has not paid a full fair and is meant to only use seats when available and not required by a passenger for whom a full fair has been paid.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

Sorry to let the side down but I really don't find northerners on average any more friendly than southerners. For me it's a total myth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry to let the side down but I really don't find northerners on average any more friendly than southerners. For me it's a total myth."

That's just because you wind everyone up!

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By *rtemisiaWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

I got cross yesterday when a girl went sauntering slowly over the crossing, having already seen it, as an ambulance came blaring and flashing towards it. It had to wait for her to move, her nose in the air, her life clearly more important than anyone else's.

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

come to yorhshire we are tight as hell but a lot of fun lol x or is it just me , if your cold put a bloody jumper on

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you. "

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

Exactly this! It's like saying because the daily mail said it it must be true.

I've been up north and treated like shit many times, I've been on holiday and notice some of the rudest people there are from Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds & Newcastle or does that not count because they are on holiday?

Anyway back to the original point, I don't know where each person on that particular train came from for all I know they could have been all from the midlands still isn't right they ignored a pregnant lady. On a lighter note I'm currently sat next to a pregnant lady and someone moved out of her way so she could get the seat which was a welcoming sight.

like I said not everyone is the same, you will get good and bad from north and south but more good from north and more bad from south."

look a moray pole has been produced on this very subject and southerners won at the ratio 64-36 out of one thousand people asked hugs

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks. "

So what your saying is it's fact that northerners are friendlier than southerners based of a sociological study and not because a northern comic said so?

As I previously said without asking everyone on that train I cannot say where everyone on that section came from, the pregnant woman was of Indian origin so was one of the ladies sitting, another was of West Indian origin and two white guys one looked like he may have been Eastern European the other looked British but I cannot be 100% it doesn't matter if your a northern monkey or a southern fairy the point was it was damn rude that this woman was left to stand on a train.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks. "

It seems it's not what everyone knows, it's just what you think..

I could go on about insular northerners just thinking about themselves but I won't play up to stereotypes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My rule is to any one old and pregnant I would give up my seat. Recently I was on the train with two of my children the train got rather packed and people looked at my children as though they should give up there seat. I don't care if someone's older unless your a pensioner! Respect is earned not given because your older.

Respect isn't earned it's offered to everyone unless they do something to suggest they're not worthy of it. I was also brought up that children who are old enough to stand safely should give up their seat for adults, so I'm with the onlookers on this one.

Fair enough. But I paid for my children's seats, unless they wish to give up there seat by choice people should not expect children to have to stand up for them because they are older.

Most pensioners on buses won't have paid for their seats, and children will have paid half fare so I don't really go by that argument. Generally speaking it's able bodied adults who've paid full fare anyway.

I'm not saying I wouldn't expect my children to get up for a pensioner, but for someone able bodied why should they need too? The child would then have to stand up to hear (around here) a adult Swearing where's the manners in that? Dog eat Dog world out there, I would like to think my children use there manners at there discretion. There's no point in showing someone who's boozed up to the eyes balls or someone who won't appricate manners

Fair enough. What kind of buses do you get on though that they can't hear the swearing while sat down? Are they magic?

It's not a dog eat dog world, it's a world which would be a lot nicer if everyone was a bit more considerate towards each other.

Odd statement when your proposing the majority of the population be less considerate to a minority group.

It's not inconsiderate in the slightest. I don't feel elderly people are being inconsiderate to me expecting me to offer them a seat, I'm not being inconsiderate to a teenager expecting them to offer an adult a seat. And it's temporary, they will grow into adults. Probably precisely the kind of adults referred to in the OP more's the pity. "

No its inconsiderate.

I mean would you think me inconsiderate if I expected you to give me your seat because I'm a man and you're a woman?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh on the whole north/south thing.

People are generally the same yet I will say the northern service staff are usually less busy than the London (London =the south clearly lol) and having a bit more of a relaxed time at work tend to be a bit more cheerful.

We all see that I think in our jobs for instance days where I'm really rushed trying to fix someone's mistake I will be rather less considerate and tell other workers they will have to wait for me to finish before they can get access to do thier jobs but on days where I've got plenty of time everything is going to plan I'm much more amicable and chatty and we all work around each other.

It's the same with anything. When people are rushing and over worked they will be less cheerful and chatty which is usually the case on the London services due to the massively greater amount of people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh on the whole north/south thing.

People are generally the same yet I will say the northern service staff are usually less busy than the London (London =the south clearly lol) and having a bit more of a relaxed time at work tend to be a bit more cheerful.

We all see that I think in our jobs for instance days where I'm really rushed trying to fix someone's mistake I will be rather less considerate and tell other workers they will have to wait for me to finish before they can get access to do thier jobs but on days where I've got plenty of time everything is going to plan I'm much more amicable and chatty and we all work around each other.

It's the same with anything. When people are rushing and over worked they will be less cheerful and chatty which is usually the case on the London services due to the massively greater amount of people"

I like to think that if those services had the right amount of buses, trains, tubes, staff etc then that would be the case. Make it less stressful and see peoples lighter sides come out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh on the whole north/south thing.

People are generally the same yet I will say the northern service staff are usually less busy than the London (London =the south clearly lol) and having a bit more of a relaxed time at work tend to be a bit more cheerful.

We all see that I think in our jobs for instance days where I'm really rushed trying to fix someone's mistake I will be rather less considerate and tell other workers they will have to wait for me to finish before they can get access to do thier jobs but on days where I've got plenty of time everything is going to plan I'm much more amicable and chatty and we all work around each other.

It's the same with anything. When people are rushing and over worked they will be less cheerful and chatty which is usually the case on the London services due to the massively greater amount of people

I like to think that if those services had the right amount of buses, trains, tubes, staff etc then that would be the case. Make it less stressful and see peoples lighter sides come out."

But it's not the "right" amount it's an excess if you fill 100 busses to 90% capacity every day it would be insane to have 200 busses filled to 45% capacity instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But they are overfilled. People can't get on them, and they were not designed with a true reflection of peoples real sizes. Fill them up by all means, but the transport systems are running over capacity for large periods of the day. People need to take out their frustrations on the transport companies, not on each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But they are overfilled. People can't get on them, and they were not designed with a true reflection of peoples real sizes. Fill them up by all means, but the transport systems are running over capacity for large periods of the day. People need to take out their frustrations on the transport companies, not on each other."

They were designed for a normal human being if people have decided to make themselves morbidly obese to the point they are twice the size they should be you cannot blame the designer of a busses ergonomics

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks.

It seems it's not what everyone knows, it's just what you think..

I could go on about insular northerners just thinking about themselves but I won't play up to stereotypes. "

certainly isnt just what I think lol, its well documented and publicised how unfriendly people are from the south compared to the north, theres books wrote on it for gods sake, its understanding that you dont like to hear it, things been reversed I wouldn't like to hear it, but I wouldnt defend those that give the south the reputation it has, id just show myself to be different to them, because of course not everyone is the same, and there are nice people where ever you come from.

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"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks.

It seems it's not what everyone knows, it's just what you think..

I could go on about insular northerners just thinking about themselves but I won't play up to stereotypes.

certainly isnt just what I think lol, its well documented and publicised how unfriendly people are from the south compared to the north, theres books wrote on it for gods sake, its understanding that you dont like to hear it, things been reversed I wouldn't like to hear it, but I wouldnt defend those that give the south the reputation it has, id just show myself to be different to them, because of course not everyone is the same, and there are nice people where ever you come from."

There's also studies, books and "evidence" that black people are less intelligent than white people do you hold that as a truism as well simply because it's in print.

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over a year ago


"But they are overfilled. People can't get on them, and they were not designed with a true reflection of peoples real sizes. Fill them up by all means, but the transport systems are running over capacity for large periods of the day. People need to take out their frustrations on the transport companies, not on each other.

They were designed for a normal human being if people have decided to make themselves morbidly obese to the point they are twice the size they should be you cannot blame the designer of a busses ergonomics "

We are not all growing fatter. But successive generations are growing taller (and subsequently wider). Transport systems just don't reflect this. I have yet to find a bus, train or aeroplane seat that can accommodate my legs. I'm only 5' 11" so hardly a giant. I can only fit by turning my legs and impinging in on someone else's leg room. We need new designs. And anyway, the travel companies should have their designs dictated to by peoples real dimensions, not what they think is real. I'm not cutting three inches off my legs just so I can sit comfortably on a bus/train/aeroplane.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks.

It seems it's not what everyone knows, it's just what you think..

I could go on about insular northerners just thinking about themselves but I won't play up to stereotypes.

certainly isnt just what I think lol, its well documented and publicised how unfriendly people are from the south compared to the north, theres books wrote on it for gods sake, its understanding that you dont like to hear it, things been reversed I wouldn't like to hear it, but I wouldnt defend those that give the south the reputation it has, id just show myself to be different to them, because of course not everyone is the same, and there are nice people where ever you come from.

There's also studies, books and "evidence" that black people are less intelligent than white people do you hold that as a truism as well simply because it's in print. "

This subject certainly hits a nerve doesnt it, again ill repeat, I am not saying all people from the south are unwelcoming or rude, but there are alot, and I have experienced this personally on a number of occasions, I have not experienced what you said so no I dont hold it as a truism as you say, I dont see why you feel the need to defend those that give the south the reputation its got, would showing you are different from them not be better.

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over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks.

It seems it's not what everyone knows, it's just what you think..

I could go on about insular northerners just thinking about themselves but I won't play up to stereotypes.

certainly isnt just what I think lol, its well documented and publicised how unfriendly people are from the south compared to the north, theres books wrote on it for gods sake, its understanding that you dont like to hear it, things been reversed I wouldn't like to hear it, but I wouldnt defend those that give the south the reputation it has, id just show myself to be different to them, because of course not everyone is the same, and there are nice people where ever you come from.

There's also studies, books and "evidence" that black people are less intelligent than white people do you hold that as a truism as well simply because it's in print.

This subject certainly hits a nerve doesnt it, again ill repeat, I am not saying all people from the south are unwelcoming or rude, but there are alot, and I have experienced this personally on a number of occasions, I have not experienced what you said so no I dont hold it as a truism as you say, I dont see why you feel the need to defend those that give the south the reputation its got, would showing you are different from them not be better."

I'm from the north lol.

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By *uper GranWoman
over a year ago

Lichfield


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it"

The question is why didn't you speak up and shame the people ignoring? After all a voice at that point would have been fare better than words typed here.

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over a year ago


"But they are overfilled. People can't get on them, and they were not designed with a true reflection of peoples real sizes. Fill them up by all means, but the transport systems are running over capacity for large periods of the day. People need to take out their frustrations on the transport companies, not on each other.

They were designed for a normal human being if people have decided to make themselves morbidly obese to the point they are twice the size they should be you cannot blame the designer of a busses ergonomics

We are not all growing fatter. But successive generations are growing taller (and subsequently wider). Transport systems just don't reflect this. I have yet to find a bus, train or aeroplane seat that can accommodate my legs. I'm only 5' 11" so hardly a giant. I can only fit by turning my legs and impinging in on someone else's leg room. We need new designs. And anyway, the travel companies should have their designs dictated to by peoples real dimensions, not what they think is real. I'm not cutting three inches off my legs just so I can sit comfortably on a bus/train/aeroplane."

This is all a moot argument anyway as crowding on public transport systems is the result of a big increase in the number of people using them, not the size of those people. Numbers using the tube and other systems round the country like the metro have gone up loads as the population increases. And that's been most keenly felt in London. Which is why they're all grumpy bastards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks.

It seems it's not what everyone knows, it's just what you think..

I could go on about insular northerners just thinking about themselves but I won't play up to stereotypes.

certainly isnt just what I think lol, its well documented and publicised how unfriendly people are from the south compared to the north, theres books wrote on it for gods sake, its understanding that you dont like to hear it, things been reversed I wouldn't like to hear it, but I wouldnt defend those that give the south the reputation it has, id just show myself to be different to them, because of course not everyone is the same, and there are nice people where ever you come from.

There's also studies, books and "evidence" that black people are less intelligent than white people do you hold that as a truism as well simply because it's in print.

This subject certainly hits a nerve doesnt it, again ill repeat, I am not saying all people from the south are unwelcoming or rude, but there are alot, and I have experienced this personally on a number of occasions, I have not experienced what you said so no I dont hold it as a truism as you say, I dont see why you feel the need to defend those that give the south the reputation its got, would showing you are different from them not be better.

I'm from the north lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But they are overfilled. People can't get on them, and they were not designed with a true reflection of peoples real sizes. Fill them up by all means, but the transport systems are running over capacity for large periods of the day. People need to take out their frustrations on the transport companies, not on each other.

They were designed for a normal human being if people have decided to make themselves morbidly obese to the point they are twice the size they should be you cannot blame the designer of a busses ergonomics

We are not all growing fatter. But successive generations are growing taller (and subsequently wider). Transport systems just don't reflect this. I have yet to find a bus, train or aeroplane seat that can accommodate my legs. I'm only 5' 11" so hardly a giant. I can only fit by turning my legs and impinging in on someone else's leg room. We need new designs. And anyway, the travel companies should have their designs dictated to by peoples real dimensions, not what they think is real. I'm not cutting three inches off my legs just so I can sit comfortably on a bus/train/aeroplane.

This is all a moot argument anyway as crowding on public transport systems is the result of a big increase in the number of people using them, not the size of those people. Numbers using the tube and other systems round the country like the metro have gone up loads as the population increases. And that's been most keenly felt in London. Which is why they're all grumpy bastards. "

If I was forced to use them, I'd no doubt end up the same. That's why it's called a daily grind. That's exactly what it does.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks.

It seems it's not what everyone knows, it's just what you think..

I could go on about insular northerners just thinking about themselves but I won't play up to stereotypes.

certainly isnt just what I think lol, its well documented and publicised how unfriendly people are from the south compared to the north, theres books wrote on it for gods sake, its understanding that you dont like to hear it, things been reversed I wouldn't like to hear it, but I wouldnt defend those that give the south the reputation it has, id just show myself to be different to them, because of course not everyone is the same, and there are nice people where ever you come from.

There's also studies, books and "evidence" that black people are less intelligent than white people do you hold that as a truism as well simply because it's in print.

This subject certainly hits a nerve doesnt it, again ill repeat, I am not saying all people from the south are unwelcoming or rude, but there are alot, and I have experienced this personally on a number of occasions, I have not experienced what you said so no I dont hold it as a truism as you say, I dont see why you feel the need to defend those that give the south the reputation its got, would showing you are different from them not be better.

I'm from the north lol.

"

Your location says london, please forgive me for making that easy mistake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks.

It seems it's not what everyone knows, it's just what you think..

I could go on about insular northerners just thinking about themselves but I won't play up to stereotypes.

certainly isnt just what I think lol, its well documented and publicised how unfriendly people are from the south compared to the north, theres books wrote on it for gods sake, its understanding that you dont like to hear it, things been reversed I wouldn't like to hear it, but I wouldnt defend those that give the south the reputation it has, id just show myself to be different to them, because of course not everyone is the same, and there are nice people where ever you come from.

There's also studies, books and "evidence" that black people are less intelligent than white people do you hold that as a truism as well simply because it's in print.

This subject certainly hits a nerve doesnt it, again ill repeat, I am not saying all people from the south are unwelcoming or rude, but there are alot, and I have experienced this personally on a number of occasions, I have not experienced what you said so no I dont hold it as a truism as you say, I dont see why you feel the need to defend those that give the south the reputation its got, would showing you are different from them not be better.

I'm from the north lol.

Your location says london, please forgive me for making that easy mistake."

It also says Chester

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over a year ago


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

Why then, is the behaviour of people on the tube such a staple of comedians (north and south)? You get utterly rude behaviour in both parts, but in London, its the norm.

So because people make a joke it's true ?

So all mother in laws are cunts

All Irish people are thick

All blondes are dumb

Give me strength.

Northern comedians, when playing to a London audience use the rudeness that's endemic on the public transport systems as a way to make jokes, because they are playing to a London audience who know it to be true! Christ, even London comics make jokes about it.

Do you find riding on public transport in London a pleasant experience where you could talk to fellow passengers, or is it a slow torture of silence, jostling elbows and as little personal interaction as possible?

It's as a pleasant a trip as I care to make it. I often engage with fellow passengers and have on more than one occasion pulled on the tube.

Last month I was offered a World Cup quarter final ticket on the tube as I was chatting to some fella who was on his way there.

Maybe you northerners are threatened by our superior intellect so go quiet on the tube for fear of feeling inadequate.

Christ someone's definitely pissed on your chips!

I'd rather that than gravy. "

I do love the humour found on this site 10/10

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it"

Whilst I would give my seat to any lady pregnant or not and very often men as well I can understand why nobody does.

If you stand for a lady these days often you get abuse for doing so, pregnancy is not a disability or an illness therefore there is no reason why she should not stand.

You do not know the circumstance of the people who were seated, they may have a heart condition or other disability not obvious. They may have been granting her her equal rights so hard fought for by women in the past who knwos.

One thing is sure if women want to have doors held open for them or seats vacated for them they should be gracious when that happens as it is someone doing them a favour not giving them a right.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just on the train home from work trying hard to hold on while standing, then a heavily pregnant lady gets on the train all of a sudden all the people around her suddenly fall into a deep sleep apart from one guy who while reading a paper normally suddenly loses eyesight and needs the paper as close to his face as possible. Is it that much of an inconvenience to allow someone who needs a seat you seat? I wished I had a seat at least then I could have offered it

Whilst I would give my seat to any lady pregnant or not and very often men as well I can understand why nobody does.

If you stand for a lady these days often you get abuse for doing so, pregnancy is not a disability or an illness therefore there is no reason why she should not stand.

You do not know the circumstance of the people who were seated, they may have a heart condition or other disability not obvious. They may have been granting her her equal rights so hard fought for by women in the past who knwos.

One thing is sure if women want to have doors held open for them or seats vacated for them they should be gracious when that happens as it is someone doing them a favour not giving them a right."

While I agree with the statement that I do not know the circumstances of the other passengers so therefore could be a reason, but the seats have a large sign that says they are priority seats for people who may need to sit ie people carrying children, pregnant women and people who cannot stand without aid.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Definitely a north/south divide, with north been friendliest, however still having its element of rudeness, but not on the scale seen in london.

Absolute nonsense. This northerners are more friendly myth is getting beyond boring now.

I travel England rather frequently and it is entirely true that you are treated better by default in the "North" than the "South" you get wankers in the northern parts and lovely people in the south, but the level of aloofness amongst the affluent classes in the south (where I live) is obvious and clear for anyone to see.

exactly this, the reason some find it boring to hear about the north/south divide is that its mentioned often because its true, im not saying everyone in the south is rude or everyone in the north is nice, but generally speaking the people from the north are politer and more welcoming than people from the south.

People in the north are so nice because you're all on benefits so you have more time to engage with each other.

People in the north only talk to you to distract you while their mates rob your house.

People in the north are so friendly because you're all related.

and this just goes to prove that point.

So a northerner can insult a southerner and it's ok cos it's the truth.

But if a southerner insults a northerner it's deemed to be rude ?

How very small minded of you.

I did not insult anyone, I simply pointed out what everyone already knows, this poster used childish uncalled for, unwarranted remarks.

It seems it's not what everyone knows, it's just what you think..

I could go on about insular northerners just thinking about themselves but I won't play up to stereotypes.

certainly isnt just what I think lol, its well documented and publicised how unfriendly people are from the south compared to the north, theres books wrote on it for gods sake, its understanding that you dont like to hear it, things been reversed I wouldn't like to hear it, but I wouldnt defend those that give the south the reputation it has, id just show myself to be different to them, because of course not everyone is the same, and there are nice people where ever you come from.

There's also studies, books and "evidence" that black people are less intelligent than white people do you hold that as a truism as well simply because it's in print.

This subject certainly hits a nerve doesnt it, again ill repeat, I am not saying all people from the south are unwelcoming or rude, but there are alot, and I have experienced this personally on a number of occasions, I have not experienced what you said so no I dont hold it as a truism as you say, I dont see why you feel the need to defend those that give the south the reputation its got, would showing you are different from them not be better.

I'm from the north lol.

Your location says london, please forgive me for making that easy mistake.

It also says Chester "

like I said please forgive me and I apologise for my mistake in thinking you were from the south.

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