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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow

I know this is going to be a politically charged discussion but after seeing that James McLean refused to wear a poppy, some of my social media friends were disgusted about my abuse if him for not wearing it.

Now I wear a poppy every year and donate to the British legion, as the war commission actually looks after a few family graves in the uk and abroad.

I am shocked that a few of them were adamant that they would not wear a poppy but would happily display the rainbow flag

It has become very heated, and maybe I don't get why people why don't wear a poppy or thoughtful of veterans on Remembrance Sunday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wear a poppy, but surely the whole 'fought for our freedom ' aspect of the poppy and what it represents means that others should not be vilified in their choice not to put one on?

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

He wont wear one because of his up bringing whats been bred into him.

Like a lot there i have been spat on by both Catholics and Protestants when serving there

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Who is James McLean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's dumb abusing someone online. Malicious messaging online is illegal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know this is going to be a politically charged discussion but after seeing that James McLean refused to wear a poppy, some of my social media friends were disgusted about my abuse if him for not wearing it.

Now I wear a poppy every year and donate to the British legion, as the war commission actually looks after a few family graves in the uk and abroad.

I am shocked that a few of them were adamant that they would not wear a poppy but would happily display the rainbow flag

It has become very heated, and maybe I don't get why people why don't wear a poppy or thoughtful of veterans on Remembrance Sunday "
I think because some people politicise the wearing of a poppy it creates an issue. Even criticising the way you wear it. The Legion in response actually said nobody should wear a poppy if they don't want to and they should wear it how they like. Personally it is a reminder of those we lost in conflicts and a reminder that this still goes on. Those who have the opinion that it glorifies war should remember that we lost troops in peace keeping missions as well. And it is also a charity which provides support for ex services and these days the third sector is vital to support those who really need it. Mr W

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I wear a poppy, but surely the whole 'fought for our freedom ' aspect of the poppy and what it represents means that others should not be vilified in their choice not to put one on?"

My thoughts exactly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The poppy doesn't not represent lost troops , it signifies the first plant to grow on the ploughed fields after the war in peace time ,

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By *argaryen starkCouple
over a year ago

pinxton

first doesn't not is a double negative .second no it doesn't signify the first plant to grow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who is James McLean? "
he invented toothpaste Evie

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

James McLean is a jumped up footballer for a struggling primer league side WEST Brom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know this is going to be a politically charged discussion but after seeing that James McLean refused to wear a poppy, some of my social media friends were disgusted about my abuse if him for not wearing it.

Now I wear a poppy every year and donate to the British legion, as the war commission actually looks after a few family graves in the uk and abroad.

I am shocked that a few of them were adamant that they would not wear a poppy but would happily display the rainbow flag

It has become very heated, and maybe I don't get why people why don't wear a poppy or thoughtful of veterans on Remembrance Sunday I think because some people politicise the wearing of a poppy it creates an issue. Even criticising the way you wear it. The Legion in response actually said nobody should wear a poppy if they don't want to and they should wear it how they like. Personally it is a reminder of those we lost in conflicts and a reminder that this still goes on. Those who have the opinion that it glorifies war should remember that we lost troops in peace keeping missions as well. And it is also a charity which provides support for ex services and these days the third sector is vital to support those who really need it. Mr W "

This. Well put Sir.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I have no idea about this man's personal beliefs or if he donates to other charities but surely it's entirely his choice.

Is the problem that he doesn't wear a poppy or that he doesn't donate?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wear a poppy and respect the choices made by people who don't want to wear one. After all if everybody was forced or brow beaten into wearing a poppy than where would that leave us as a society?

I don't like it when people vilify the poppy but that's for another day.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

He's been refusing to wear one for at least three seasons.

Anyone still abusing him for it at this point probably has a different agenda anyway.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I wear one with pride, I don't care what others do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wear one with pride, I don't care what others do."

Me too. Even if my grandfathers hadn't been part of the fighting in the two world wars,I would have worn one.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Considering the origins of remembrance Sunday and the symbolism of the poppy I'm surprised that anybody who likes to wear one is prepared to openly abuse someone who feels differently to them. I thought that the wars and military actions were in part to defend our freedom of choice.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Oh! you who sleep in Flanders Fields,

Sleep sweet - to rise anew!

We caught the torch you threw

And holding high, we keep the Faith

With All who died.

We cherish, too, the poppy red

That grows on fields where valor led;

It seems to signal to the skies

That blood of heroes never dies,

But lends a lustre to the red

Of the flower that blooms above the dead

In Flanders Fields.

And now the Torch and Poppy Red

We wear in honor of our dead.

Fear not that ye have died for naught;

We'll teach the lesson that ye wrought

In Flanders Fields.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I know this is going to be a politically charged discussion but after seeing that James McLean refused to wear a poppy, some of my social media friends were disgusted about my abuse if him for not wearing it.

Now I wear a poppy every year and donate to the British legion, as the war commission actually looks after a few family graves in the uk and abroad.

I am shocked that a few of them were adamant that they would not wear a poppy but would happily display the rainbow flag

It has become very heated, and maybe I don't get why people why don't wear a poppy or thoughtful of veterans on Remembrance Sunday "

i think you need to take a look at yourself if you have abused someone for making a choice in not wearing a poppy also that you are shocked that someone else displays the rainbow flag etc..

pay your own respects to those who have not come home but also respect the freedom that allows others to not do so..

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I sometimes wonder how many people would be so in your face about the Poppy Appeal if it simply involved an anonymous donation, rather than something to pin on one's chest and show off.

As it stands, my friends on facebook appear to be in a contest to outdo each other on showing how behind the troops they are. I'm not sure how many of them will buy a Big Issue from a homeless ex-serviceman in a month's time, though.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

thank you x

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"I know this is going to be a politically charged discussion but after seeing that James McLean refused to wear a poppy, some of my social media friends were disgusted about my abuse if him for not wearing it.

"

Why would you abuse someone for exercising their right to choose?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I know this is going to be a politically charged discussion but after seeing that James McLean refused to wear a poppy, some of my social media friends were disgusted about my abuse if him for not wearing it.

Now I wear a poppy every year and donate to the British legion, as the war commission actually looks after a few family graves in the uk and abroad.

I am shocked that a few of them were adamant that they would not wear a poppy but would happily display the rainbow flag

It has become very heated, and maybe I don't get why people why don't wear a poppy or thoughtful of

veterans on Remembrance Sunday "

So you consider it correct behaviour to abuse someone for their beliefs because they differ to yours ?

You can't get your head around why someone's beliefs differ to yours and you are willing to attack them for it.

Because they don't wear what you wear you take a different belief they hold and call it into question.

You are dismayed that others are against your behaviour also.

What is your opinion on facism ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!. "

Why be annoyed because someone chooses not to wear a poppy ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Omg! The King of the Netherlands he's wearing it wrong ffs!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hold on.

Why would James McLean want to wear a poppy? After the atrocities carried out in his home town, o don't blame him for not wearing one.

Would it be better to make him wear one? Forcing someone to wear one would send out completely the wrong message.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!. "

According to the British Legion, there's no right or wrong way.

But as long as that's the only way politicians upset you, consider yourself lucky!

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!. "

RBL say there isn't a right or wrong way, to just wear it with pride.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!.

According to the British Legion, there's no right or wrong way.

But as long as that's the only way politicians upset you, consider yourself lucky!"

The leaf should be at 11 o clock to signify the 11th hour 11th month.

Silly things like that set my ocd into overdrive!

Oh and believe me it's not the only way politicians upset me! Just proves to me they have no respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It pisses me off when people say others are wearing it wrong

It's like some people just have to pick apart every little thing in the world because they have nothing better to do with their time

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


" Just proves to me they have no respect. "

that is so unfair, but this is a day of peace and reflection.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This site just rejected me uploading a poopy image not happy

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It pisses me off when people say others are wearing it wrong

It's like some people just have to pick apart every little thing in the world because they have nothing better to do with their time "

I managed to hold back saying what I think of people's tedious issues. I gave myself a gold star and there's no wrong way for me to pin it. Win Win.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!.

According to the British Legion, there's no right or wrong way.

But as long as that's the only way politicians upset you, consider yourself lucky!

The leaf should be at 11 o clock to signify the 11th hour 11th month.

Silly things like that set my ocd into overdrive!

Oh and believe me it's not the only way politicians upset me! Just proves to me they have no respect. "

The Netherlands fella has travelled to a foreign country and spent hours at this ceremony.

And you're accusing HIM or disrespect????

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"This site just rejected me uploading a poopy image not happy "

Have you complained in the appropriate section ?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"This site just rejected me uploading a poopy image not happy "

Put the poppy in your hand or on your top, take the pic and upload and it will be approved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This site just rejected me uploading a poopy image not happy "

Upload a picture of you wearing or holding the poppy you've purchased. That'll be allowed. The rules still apply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It pisses me off when people say others are wearing it wrong

It's like some people just have to pick apart every little thing in the world because they have nothing better to do with their time "

Well I'm sorry I pissed you off, but not as sorry as I am two of my closest friends were killed trying to protect the country you live in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It pisses me off when people say others are wearing it wrong

It's like some people just have to pick apart every little thing in the world because they have nothing better to do with their time

Well I'm sorry I pissed you off, but not as sorry as I am two of my closest friends were killed trying to protect the country you live in.

"

Lol bit over the top.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

I think lately the reason behind the poppy has been lost, which is very sad.

It isn't a competition of how many you have, how you wear it or even if you wear one but it seems that way reading some of these threads ( on here and other sites )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know this is going to be a politically charged discussion but after seeing that James McLean refused to wear a poppy, some of my social media friends were disgusted about my abuse if him for not wearing it.

Now I wear a poppy every year and donate to the British legion, as the war commission actually looks after a few family graves in the uk and abroad.

I am shocked that a few of them were adamant that they would not wear a poppy but would happily display the rainbow flag

It has become very heated, and maybe I don't get why people why don't wear a poppy or thoughtful of veterans on Remembrance Sunday "

Have you actually read his reasons for not wearing one?

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By *hyguyMan
over a year ago

Sheffield


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!.

RBL say there isn't a right or wrong way, to just wear it with pride."

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It pisses me off when people say others are wearing it wrong

It's like some people just have to pick apart every little thing in the world because they have nothing better to do with their time

Well I'm sorry I pissed you off, but not as sorry as I am two of my closest friends were killed trying to protect the country you live in.

"

And there it is..... very predictable.

It starts with putting yourself in a poistion where you can look down on others and then if someone objects you try to place moral blame on them.

Luckily a lot of people dislike the witchunters more than the witches.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think lately the reason behind the poppy has been lost, which is very sad.

It isn't a competition of how many you have, how you wear it or even if you wear one but it seems that way reading some of these threads ( on here and other sites )

"

I think it's strange to show support by slagging off those for wearing it "incorrectly", instead of appreciating the display of support.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It pisses me off when people say others are wearing it wrong

It's like some people just have to pick apart every little thing in the world because they have nothing better to do with their time

Well I'm sorry I pissed you off, but not as sorry as I am two of my closest friends were killed trying to protect the country you live in.

"

Good grief

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wear a poppy, but surely the whole 'fought for our freedom ' aspect of the poppy and what it represents means that others should not be vilified in their choice not to put one on?"

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I spelled position wrong. I feel suicidal. Day ruined.

Someone lecture me on spelling please.

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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow

First of all I do know exactly what the poppy stands for....was brought up to support the military as family is from the milatary background

What upset me today was a family that decided to talk and walk when the 2 mins silence was on which is totally disrespectful in my eyes but hey ho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"First of all I do know exactly what the poppy stands for....was brought up to support the military as family is from the milatary background

What upset me today was a family that decided to talk and walk when the 2 mins silence was on which is totally disrespectful in my eyes but hey ho "

Your post was 3 hours ago. You were already aggy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This site just rejected me uploading a poopy image not happy "

I really hope you meant poppy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It pisses me off when people say others are wearing it wrong

It's like some people just have to pick apart every little thing in the world because they have nothing better to do with their time

Well I'm sorry I pissed you off, but not as sorry as I am two of my closest friends were killed trying to protect the country you live in.

And there it is..... very predictable.

It starts with putting yourself in a poistion where you can look down on others and then if someone objects you try to place moral blame on them.

Luckily a lot of people dislike the witchunters more than the witches."

I'm not putting moral blame on anyone!!

And I don't appriciate being called a witch. It's my personal opinion which I have shared the same as you have shared yours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The man on the telly said listen to the silence,,

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Dignified reflection

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"First of all I do know exactly what the poppy stands for....was brought up to support the military as family is from the milatary background

What upset me today was a family that decided to talk and walk when the 2 mins silence was on which is totally disrespectful in my eyes but hey ho

Your post was 3 hours ago. You were already aggy. "

Deflection.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I think lately the reason behind the poppy has been lost, which is very sad."

Indeed.

The modern assumption is that any stance against them - or even lateness in wearing them - is an unpatriotic disrespect for Britain. It's not.

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!.

According to the British Legion, there's no right or wrong way.

But as long as that's the only way politicians upset you, consider yourself lucky!

The leaf should be at 11 o clock to signify the 11th hour 11th month.

Silly things like that set my ocd into overdrive!

Oh and believe me it's not the only way politicians upset me! Just proves to me they have no respect.

The Netherlands fella has travelled to a foreign country and spent hours at this ceremony.

And you're accusing HIM or disrespect????"

I wear mine with pride.

It's worth remembering though that the poppy was introduce by Field Marshal Haig and so for me it reminds me that those that perpetuate wars/cobflicts or those that start them are never the ones that did in them!

Being an ex soldier, I will always remember those that have made the ultimate sacrifice for the freedoms of others.

I will not give up my poppy for any other symbol but I can understand how others may wish to when they consider what else this emblem of rememberance provokes them to remember.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!. "

Really? REALLY? You'd prefer they didn't wear one at all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!. "

Does that really matter?

What matters is, they are taking the time to show their respect to the fallen .

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It pisses me off when people say others are wearing it wrong

It's like some people just have to pick apart every little thing in the world because they have nothing better to do with their time

Well I'm sorry I pissed you off, but not as sorry as I am two of my closest friends were killed trying to protect the country you live in.

And there it is..... very predictable.

It starts with putting yourself in a poistion where you can look down on others and then if someone objects you try to place moral blame on them.

Luckily a lot of people dislike the witchunters more than the witches.

I'm not putting moral blame on anyone!!

And I don't appriciate being called a witch. It's my personal opinion which I have shared the same as you have shared yours.

"

I didn't call you a witch.

And you have been judging and blaming since you began posting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!.

Does that really matter?

What matters is, they are taking the time to show their respect to the fallen ."

We all have our niggles in life that's just one of my niggles as I feel so strongly about forces personal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of interest, the Poppy pins which don't have a leaf, are they also disrespectful? Or the veteran I've just seen wearing his with the leaf not pointing "correctly" - is he also disrespecting the memory of his fallen comrades or does that only apply to politicians/the public?

It's this sort of insane focus on minor insignificant detail that detracts from the magnitude of what it's actually all supposed to be about. Stepping away from this thread now.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Out of interest, the Poppy pins which don't have a leaf, are they also disrespectful? Or the veteran I've just seen wearing his with the leaf not pointing "correctly" - is he also disrespecting the memory of his fallen comrades or does that only apply to politicians/the public?

It's this sort of insane focus on minor insignificant detail that detracts from the magnitude of what it's actually all supposed to be about. Stepping away from this thread now.

"

Me too. I lost sight of not responding to unreasonable comment.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Scottish poppies have four petals and no leaf and mine hangs from the rear _iew mirror in my car.

To me, it doesn't matter where you wear it or how you wear it... it symbolises the right you have to make that choice because those people died in wars that made it possible for you to have that choice. Lest you forget.

Just wear it with pride.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Out of interest, the Poppy pins which don't have a leaf, are they also disrespectful? Or the veteran I've just seen wearing his with the leaf not pointing "correctly" - is he also disrespecting the memory of his fallen comrades or does that only apply to politicians/the public?

It's this sort of insane focus on minor insignificant detail that detracts from the magnitude of what it's actually all supposed to be about. Stepping away from this thread now.

"

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By *ofUs4UCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Poppy fascists, it turns out, are a very real thing.

If you want to wear one then wear one, if you don't want to wear one don't wear one.

It's all about the freedom of choice.

Nobody should be berated for their own decisions. They're not doing anything illegal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an ex-service man who served 22 years, saw conflict in the Falklands, Iran Iraq war and Bosnia.

Dose it matter how you wear your poppy just as long as you do.

I have stood at my local memorial today to remember all my lost friends and to pay my respects to all those who didn't return to the safety of their families.

We will remember them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you want to wear a poppy, wear a poppy.

If you don't want to wear a poppy, don't wear a poppy.

And that really is all there is.

Solved......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose choosing to wear a poppy or not too wear a poppy is a bit like choosing whether or not to attend or a remembrance Sunday memorial event in person.... or electing to spend that time logged into a swingers site instead...

It doesn't mean you don't care..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I suppose choosing to wear a poppy or not too wear a poppy is a bit like choosing whether or not to attend or a remembrance Sunday memorial event in person.... or electing to spend that time logged into a swingers site instead...

It doesn't mean you don't care.. "

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Slightly off topic, I support the poppy appeal and appreciate and am saddened by the sacrifices that so many made in defending our freedoms. However I don't like how this has changed into supporting our current or recent campaigns. I do not agree with military actions that are economically motivated and I dislike that the poppy has been used as a blanket to mask these things. I feel like it is becoming or in danger of being a jingoistic tool used to garner support for questionable actions over seas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know this is going to be a politically charged discussion but after seeing that James McLean refused to wear a poppy, some of my social media friends were disgusted about my abuse if him for not wearing it.

Now I wear a poppy every year and donate to the British legion, as the war commission actually looks after a few family graves in the uk and abroad.

I am shocked that a few of them were adamant that they would not wear a poppy but would happily display the rainbow flag

It has become very heated, and maybe I don't get why people why don't wear a poppy or thoughtful of veterans on Remembrance Sunday I think because some people politicise the wearing of a poppy it creates an issue. Even criticising the way you wear it. The Legion in response actually said nobody should wear a poppy if they don't want to and they should wear it how they like. Personally it is a reminder of those we lost in conflicts and a reminder that this still goes on. Those who have the opinion that it glorifies war should remember that we lost troops in peace keeping missions as well. And it is also a charity which provides support for ex services and these days the third sector is vital to support those who really need it. Mr W "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"James McLean is a jumped up footballer for a struggling primer league side WEST Brom"

Ah ... I'm guessing he's the guy the Leicester fans were booing last weekend when we beat them

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"Slightly off topic, I support the poppy appeal and appreciate and am saddened by the sacrifices that so many made in defending our freedoms. However I don't like how this has changed into supporting our current or recent campaigns. I do not agree with military actions that are economically motivated and I dislike that the poppy has been used as a blanket to mask these things. I feel like it is becoming or in danger of being a jingoistic tool used to garner support for questionable actions over seas "

This is the problem - it seems that, as long as they wear a poppy at the appropriate time, our leaders are forgiven for leading this country in yet another pointless invasion of a country that is not even a threat to us.

Like most charitable days it seems we are forgiven for observing the proper rites on that day yet not bothering at all with the intentions the rest of the year.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I sometimes wonder how many people would be so in your face about the Poppy Appeal if it simply involved an anonymous donation, rather than something to pin on one's chest and show off.

As it stands, my friends on facebook appear to be in a contest to outdo each other on showing how behind the troops they are. I'm not sure how many of them will buy a Big Issue from a homeless ex-serviceman in a month's time, though. "

The Royal British Legion and The Big Issue are two separate and unconnected charities.

The is no reason for ex-Service personnel to be selling The Big Issue, because there is no need for them to be homeless. The Royal British Legion or other Service charities will house them.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"The inquisitive mind of a child"

Why are they selling poppies, Mummy?

Selling poppies in town today.

The poppies, child, are flowers of love.

For the men who marched away.

But why have they chosen a poppy, Mummy?

Why not a beautiful rose?

Because my child, men fought and died

In the fields where the poppies grow.

But why are the poppies so red, Mummy?

Why are the poppies so red?

Red is the colour of blood, my child.

The blood that our soldiers shed.

The heart of the poppy is black, Mummy.

Why does it have to be black?

Black, my child, is the symbol of grief.

For the men who never came back.

But why, Mummy are you crying so?

Your tears are giving you pain.

My tears are my fears for you my child.

For the world is forgetting again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Slightly off topic, I support the poppy appeal and appreciate and am saddened by the sacrifices that so many made in defending our freedoms. However I don't like how this has changed into supporting our current or recent campaigns. I do not agree with military actions that are economically motivated and I dislike that the poppy has been used as a blanket to mask these things. I feel like it is becoming or in danger of being a jingoistic tool used to garner support for questionable actions over seas

This is the problem - it seems that, as long as they wear a poppy at the appropriate time, our leaders are forgiven for leading this country in yet another pointless invasion of a country that is not even a threat to us.

Like most charitable days it seems we are forgiven for observing the proper rites on that day yet not bothering at all with the intentions the rest of the year."

Yes and the issue is that because they're wearing the poppy it also means that any military action driven by them is supported by the legion.

I have a big problem with the military selling the poppies though, I think the military should be miles away from any charity

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

Hope you can sleep well

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

Like most charitable days it seems we are forgiven for observing the proper rites on that day yet not bothering at all with the intentions the rest of the year."

If you want to support the Armed Forces Community, there is plenty to do year round, as a volunteer (maybe visiting isolated veterans, caseworking to see what the needs of a beneficiary are, or fundraising, the work goes on year round, not just in November) you could also ask if your employer has decided to sign a Corporate Covenant to support the Armed Forces Community. You could also ask if they also advertise job vacancies on Civvy Street (a Legion employment website), it doesn't cost anything, but its where many veterans look for jobs. You could organise a fundraising event yourself, by doing anything from running a marathon to a coffee morning.

Or even just spreading the word about the services offered by the Legion and the fact that the Legion can help 1 in 10 of the UK population and spends approx £1.4m per week on its welfare services.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Like most charitable days it seems we are forgiven for observing the proper rites on that day yet not bothering at all with the intentions the rest of the year.

If you want to support the Armed Forces Community, there is plenty to do year round, as a volunteer (maybe visiting isolated veterans, caseworking to see what the needs of a beneficiary are, or fundraising, the work goes on year round, not just in November) you could also ask if your employer has decided to sign a Corporate Covenant to support the Armed Forces Community. You could also ask if they also advertise job vacancies on Civvy Street (a Legion employment website), it doesn't cost anything, but its where many veterans look for jobs. You could organise a fundraising event yourself, by doing anything from running a marathon to a coffee morning.

Or even just spreading the word about the services offered by the Legion and the fact that the Legion can help 1 in 10 of the UK population and spends approx £1.4m per week on its welfare services. "

I think you've taken things out of context, the point was meant about our political leaders

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hope you can sleep well"

To say I don't support our military actions doesn't mean I don't see a point in the military. I sleep just fine thanks.

I never blindly support anything just because I'm told to. The price of freedom is eternal vigilence

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

Like most charitable days it seems we are forgiven for observing the proper rites on that day yet not bothering at all with the intentions the rest of the year.

If you want to support the Armed Forces Community, there is plenty to do year round, as a volunteer (maybe visiting isolated veterans, caseworking to see what the needs of a beneficiary are, or fundraising, the work goes on year round, not just in November) you could also ask if your employer has decided to sign a Corporate Covenant to support the Armed Forces Community. You could also ask if they also advertise job vacancies on Civvy Street (a Legion employment website), it doesn't cost anything, but its where many veterans look for jobs. You could organise a fundraising event yourself, by doing anything from running a marathon to a coffee morning.

Or even just spreading the word about the services offered by the Legion and the fact that the Legion can help 1 in 10 of the UK population and spends approx £1.4m per week on its welfare services.

I think you've taken things out of context, the point was meant about our political leaders"

No, I haven't. The military covenant is between three groups. The Public. The Military. The Government.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"

Like most charitable days it seems we are forgiven for observing the proper rites on that day yet not bothering at all with the intentions the rest of the year.

If you want to support the Armed Forces Community, there is plenty to do year round, as a volunteer (maybe visiting isolated veterans, caseworking to see what the needs of a beneficiary are, or fundraising, the work goes on year round, not just in November) you could also ask if your employer has decided to sign a Corporate Covenant to support the Armed Forces Community. You could also ask if they also advertise job vacancies on Civvy Street (a Legion employment website), it doesn't cost anything, but its where many veterans look for jobs. You could organise a fundraising event yourself, by doing anything from running a marathon to a coffee morning.

Or even just spreading the word about the services offered by the Legion and the fact that the Legion can help 1 in 10 of the UK population and spends approx £1.4m per week on its welfare services. "

I am aware of this. My point was that many people will foam at the mouth about people not wearing their poppy once a year, but not understand that those people are supporting troops in other ways all year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Like most charitable days it seems we are forgiven for observing the proper rites on that day yet not bothering at all with the intentions the rest of the year.

If you want to support the Armed Forces Community, there is plenty to do year round, as a volunteer (maybe visiting isolated veterans, caseworking to see what the needs of a beneficiary are, or fundraising, the work goes on year round, not just in November) you could also ask if your employer has decided to sign a Corporate Covenant to support the Armed Forces Community. You could also ask if they also advertise job vacancies on Civvy Street (a Legion employment website), it doesn't cost anything, but its where many veterans look for jobs. You could organise a fundraising event yourself, by doing anything from running a marathon to a coffee morning.

Or even just spreading the word about the services offered by the Legion and the fact that the Legion can help 1 in 10 of the UK population and spends approx £1.4m per week on its welfare services.

I think you've taken things out of context, the point was meant about our political leaders

No, I haven't. The military covenant is between three groups. The Public. The Military. The Government. "

Yes I do understand the basis of the military thanks

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

Like most charitable days it seems we are forgiven for observing the proper rites on that day yet not bothering at all with the intentions the rest of the year.

If you want to support the Armed Forces Community, there is plenty to do year round, as a volunteer (maybe visiting isolated veterans, caseworking to see what the needs of a beneficiary are, or fundraising, the work goes on year round, not just in November) you could also ask if your employer has decided to sign a Corporate Covenant to support the Armed Forces Community. You could also ask if they also advertise job vacancies on Civvy Street (a Legion employment website), it doesn't cost anything, but its where many veterans look for jobs. You could organise a fundraising event yourself, by doing anything from running a marathon to a coffee morning.

Or even just spreading the word about the services offered by the Legion and the fact that the Legion can help 1 in 10 of the UK population and spends approx £1.4m per week on its welfare services.

I think you've taken things out of context, the point was meant about our political leaders

No, I haven't. The military covenant is between three groups. The Public. The Military. The Government.

Yes I do understand the basis of the military thanks"

Ok, from your post I thought you were only concerned about political leaders, and the OP was actually about a footballer, so I just thought that I would mention that we all have a part to play.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Like most charitable days it seems we are forgiven for observing the proper rites on that day yet not bothering at all with the intentions the rest of the year.

If you want to support the Armed Forces Community, there is plenty to do year round, as a volunteer (maybe visiting isolated veterans, caseworking to see what the needs of a beneficiary are, or fundraising, the work goes on year round, not just in November) you could also ask if your employer has decided to sign a Corporate Covenant to support the Armed Forces Community. You could also ask if they also advertise job vacancies on Civvy Street (a Legion employment website), it doesn't cost anything, but its where many veterans look for jobs. You could organise a fundraising event yourself, by doing anything from running a marathon to a coffee morning.

Or even just spreading the word about the services offered by the Legion and the fact that the Legion can help 1 in 10 of the UK population and spends approx £1.4m per week on its welfare services.

I think you've taken things out of context, the point was meant about our political leaders

No, I haven't. The military covenant is between three groups. The Public. The Military. The Government.

Yes I do understand the basis of the military thanks

Ok, from your post I thought you were only concerned about political leaders, and the OP was actually about a footballer, so I just thought that I would mention that we all have a part to play. "

That's based upon the assumption that I support the militarys actions. I dislike how the military is being used for economic concerns and were expected to celebrate that

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

Like most charitable days it seems we are forgiven for observing the proper rites on that day yet not bothering at all with the intentions the rest of the year.

If you want to support the Armed Forces Community, there is plenty to do year round, as a volunteer (maybe visiting isolated veterans, caseworking to see what the needs of a beneficiary are, or fundraising, the work goes on year round, not just in November) you could also ask if your employer has decided to sign a Corporate Covenant to support the Armed Forces Community. You could also ask if they also advertise job vacancies on Civvy Street (a Legion employment website), it doesn't cost anything, but its where many veterans look for jobs. You could organise a fundraising event yourself, by doing anything from running a marathon to a coffee morning.

Or even just spreading the word about the services offered by the Legion and the fact that the Legion can help 1 in 10 of the UK population and spends approx £1.4m per week on its welfare services.

I am aware of this. My point was that many people will foam at the mouth about people not wearing their poppy once a year, but not understand that those people are supporting troops in other ways all year."

I would have thought that people who work year round to support the Armed Forces Community probably do wear poppies, and people who dont wear poppies, probably don't work year round to support the Armed Forces Community.

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

CLCC Couple like all the forums people just put any thing just to get arguments going Don,t worry Remembrance week nearly over back to Those Bloody Immigrants Tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why the feck should the public be expected to financially support the armed forces?

That is the governments job.

Nobody should be running anybody down for not wanting to give these charities money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wear one with pride, I don't care what others do.

Me too. Even if my grandfathers hadn't been part of the fighting in the two world wars,I would have worn one.

"

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

That's based upon the assumption that I support the militarys actions. I dislike how the military is being used for economic concerns and were expected to celebrate that"

I apologise if you already know this, but some others may not. The military covenant is not about an individual suppporting military actions or not. The military covenant regards the fact the the general public elect the government, the government then in turn deploys the military, and the military then goes where its told.

Also on a separate note, supporting The Royal British Legion is not a symbol of supporting any past, present, or future conflicts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you want to wear a poppy, wear a poppy.

If you don't want to wear a poppy, don't wear a poppy.

And that really is all there is.

Solved......"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly why I wear a white poppy.

How can I support a symbol which our politicians wear while planning war? When we as a country are the second biggest producer of weapons in the world.

I honour our troops by demanding peace not profit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"CLCC Couple like all the forums people just put any thing just to get arguments going Don,t worry Remembrance week nearly over back to Those Bloody Immigrants Tomorrow "

I'm not trying to get anything going, I'm just simply stating my point of _iew. To dismiss me as trolling is worse.

If you can't handle a different opinion maybe public forums aren't for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

That's based upon the assumption that I support the militarys actions. I dislike how the military is being used for economic concerns and were expected to celebrate that

I apologise if you already know this, but some others may not. The military covenant is not about an individual suppporting military actions or not. The military covenant regards the fact the the general public elect the government, the government then in turn deploys the military, and the military then goes where its told.

Also on a separate note, supporting The Royal British Legion is not a symbol of supporting any past, present, or future conflicts."

No it's not and that's my point, that it's in danger of being that. Many people cannot distinguish between the two things and our military leaders wearing them whilst engaging in fresh conflict and the military servicemen selling them muddies the waters even further

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a Veteran, and a Veteran is someone, who at one point in their life, wrote a blank cheque payable to the United Kingdom for an amount up to, and including, their life. Regardless of personal political _iews, it is an honour to serve one's country, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer remember that fact.

Too many never returned, we as a nation owe so much to those who payed the ultimate sacrifice.

Everyone has a duty to remember them.

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

VERY TRUE

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I would have thought that people who work year round to support the Armed Forces Community probably do wear poppies, and people who dont wear poppies, probably don't work year round to support the Armed Forces Community. "

That is an assumption no-one is qualified to make.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"VERY TRUE"

Can you please use the 'reply+quote' button so we can see who your wildly sweeping generalisations are aimed at please

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham

I had the honour twice to be part of the Royal Navy guard at the Cenotaph in London. An at no time was I or other members picked up about the way we worn the poppy in our hats.I always buy a bracelet an a poppy because I know that I will lose the poppy with in minutes.I have lost many friends over the years,who gave their lifes for freedom,so wear mine with pride.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had the honour twice to be part of the Royal Navy guard at the Cenotaph in London. An at no time was I or other members picked up about the way we worn the poppy in our hats.I always buy a bracelet an a poppy because I know that I will lose the poppy with in minutes.I have lost many friends over the years,who gave their lifes for freedom,so wear mine with pride."

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham


"I am a Veteran, and a Veteran is someone, who at one point in their life, wrote a blank cheque payable to the United Kingdom for an amount up to, and including, their life. Regardless of personal political _iews, it is an honour to serve one's country, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer remember that fact.

Too many never returned, we as a nation owe so much to those who payed the ultimate sacrifice.

Everyone has a duty to remember them. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy."

I'm not sure if the amount of money is the point.

The acknowledgment of the few that gave so much and the memory of their sacrifice, is more important than money.

Yes the British Legion does fantastic work.

But the point of poppy is to the symbol of the act of remembrance.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy.

I'm not sure if the amount of money is the point.

The acknowledgment of the few that gave so much and the memory of their sacrifice, is more important than money.

Yes the British Legion does fantastic work.

But the point of poppy is to the symbol of the act of remembrance. "

Do we need to show that we're remembering, isn't the act of remembrance in itself enough?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy.

I'm not sure if the amount of money is the point.

The acknowledgment of the few that gave so much and the memory of their sacrifice, is more important than money.

Yes the British Legion does fantastic work.

But the point of poppy is to the symbol of the act of remembrance.

Do we need to show that we're remembering, isn't the act of remembrance in itself enough? "

I think that's what I'm trying to say

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy.

I'm not sure if the amount of money is the point.

The acknowledgment of the few that gave so much and the memory of their sacrifice, is more important than money.

Yes the British Legion does fantastic work.

But the point of poppy is to the symbol of the act of remembrance. "

So you're saying we should wear a poppy all year round? What with my rainbow of ribbons, Pudsey Bear, and daffodil, I'd be unlikely to lift my coat.

expecting people to wear a poppy to show support is totally against the whole point of 'lest we forget'.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy.

I'm not sure if the amount of money is the point.

The acknowledgment of the few that gave so much and the memory of their sacrifice, is more important than money.

Yes the British Legion does fantastic work.

But the point of poppy is to the symbol of the act of remembrance.

Do we need to show that we're remembering, isn't the act of remembrance in itself enough?

I think that's what I'm trying to say "

I'm saying that we don't need to wear a poppy to show that we acknowledge and remember, I think you're saying that we do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy.

I'm not sure if the amount of money is the point.

The acknowledgment of the few that gave so much and the memory of their sacrifice, is more important than money.

Yes the British Legion does fantastic work.

But the point of poppy is to the symbol of the act of remembrance.

So you're saying we should wear a poppy all year round? What with my rainbow of ribbons, Pudsey Bear, and daffodil, I'd be unlikely to lift my coat.

expecting people to wear a poppy to show support is totally against the whole point of 'lest we forget'."

That's not quite it, the poppy is the symbol of remembrance and normally available for donations during the time before 11th November , however I do wear my veteran pin all year.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy.

I'm not sure if the amount of money is the point.

The acknowledgment of the few that gave so much and the memory of their sacrifice, is more important than money.

Yes the British Legion does fantastic work.

But the point of poppy is to the symbol of the act of remembrance.

Do we need to show that we're remembering, isn't the act of remembrance in itself enough? "

i think the symbolic gesture of wearing the poppy has been in some ways hijacked by some who deem to impose their 'you must conform to my thinking and actions' and wear one and i think for those who do have that opinion they belittle the act and the symbol of the poppy..

we can all pay our respects in our own individual way and that should be that..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy.

I'm not sure if the amount of money is the point.

The acknowledgment of the few that gave so much and the memory of their sacrifice, is more important than money.

Yes the British Legion does fantastic work.

But the point of poppy is to the symbol of the act of remembrance.

Do we need to show that we're remembering, isn't the act of remembrance in itself enough?

I think that's what I'm trying to say

I'm saying that we don't need to wear a poppy to show that we acknowledge and remember, I think you're saying that we do."

Not at all the poppy is a national symbol and demonstrates support.

It's up to you if you wear it or donate to the British Legion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy.

I'm not sure if the amount of money is the point.

The acknowledgment of the few that gave so much and the memory of their sacrifice, is more important than money.

Yes the British Legion does fantastic work.

But the point of poppy is to the symbol of the act of remembrance.

Do we need to show that we're remembering, isn't the act of remembrance in itself enough?

i think the symbolic gesture of wearing the poppy has been in some ways hijacked by some who deem to impose their 'you must conform to my thinking and actions' and wear one and i think for those who do have that opinion they belittle the act and the symbol of the poppy..

we can all pay our respects in our own individual way and that should be that..

"

I lost many of my friends in the Falkland Islands.

I was one of the lucky ones, I have my life, I watched my children grow for that I am in their debt.

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London


"I wear a poppy, but surely the whole 'fought for our freedom ' aspect of the poppy and what it represents means that others should not be vilified in their choice not to put one on?"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I'll sling a few quid in a collection but I'm not interested in wearing a poppy.

I'm not sure if the amount of money is the point.

The acknowledgment of the few that gave so much and the memory of their sacrifice, is more important than money.

Yes the British Legion does fantastic work.

But the point of poppy is to the symbol of the act of remembrance.

Do we need to show that we're remembering, isn't the act of remembrance in itself enough?

i think the symbolic gesture of wearing the poppy has been in some ways hijacked by some who deem to impose their 'you must conform to my thinking and actions' and wear one and i think for those who do have that opinion they belittle the act and the symbol of the poppy..

we can all pay our respects in our own individual way and that should be that..

I lost many of my friends in the Falkland Islands.

I was one of the lucky ones, I have my life, I watched my children grow for that I am in their debt. "

ditto on the conflict though only a couple, one close..

i will when in Cardiff stop by the memorial stone in the city and take a minute to reflect on it, its more poignant on a sunny day..

we are all in debt for those that kept these islands safe from tyranny, imposing ones will upon another or bullying those who choose not to do so as the OP stated is a stain upon the memory of those who fought to allow us our freedom to fly whatever flag or support whomever..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What annoys me more than a person choosing not to wear a poppy are those that wear one and wear it wrong.

I'm watching on tv today, it amazes me how many politicians are wearing it wrong!!!!.

According to the British Legion, there's no right or wrong way.

But as long as that's the only way politicians upset you, consider yourself lucky!

The leaf should be at 11 o clock to signify the 11th hour 11th month.

Silly things like that set my ocd into overdrive!

Oh and believe me it's not the only way politicians upset me! Just proves to me they have no respect. "

What Pisses me off is when people belittle a serious and debilitating medical condition to give justification for them being picky cunts.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I am a Veteran, and a Veteran is someone, who at one point in their life, wrote a blank cheque payable to the United Kingdom for an amount up to, and including, their life. Regardless of personal political _iews, it is an honour to serve one's country, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer remember that fact.

Too many never returned, we as a nation owe so much to those who payed the ultimate sacrifice.

Everyone has a duty to remember them. "

No. Those that believe it is their duty to remember have that duty.

No one else does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What Pisses me off is when people belittle a serious and debilitating medical condition to give justification for them being picky cunts. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you're saying we should wear a poppy all year round? What with my rainbow of ribbons, Pudsey Bear, and daffodil, I'd be unlikely to lift my coat.

expecting people to wear a poppy to show support is totally against the whole point of 'lest we forget'."

Yup, and if you're wearing a different coat that day you have to switch them all over

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"What Pisses me off is when people belittle a serious and debilitating medical condition to give justification for them being picky cunts.

"

What a vulgar display of grinningship.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I sometimes wonder how many people would be so in your face about the Poppy Appeal if it simply involved an anonymous donation, rather than something to pin on one's chest and show off.

As it stands, my friends on facebook appear to be in a contest to outdo each other on showing how behind the troops they are. I'm not sure how many of them will buy a Big Issue from a homeless ex-serviceman in a month's time, though.

The Royal British Legion and The Big Issue are two separate and unconnected charities.

The is no reason for ex-Service personnel to be selling The Big Issue, because there is no need for them to be homeless. The Royal British Legion or other Service charities will house them."

Not all of them. Veterans make up very big percentages of the house less and many of the street sleepers

They have a lot of issues that makes rehabilitating and housing them too difficult for charities. Not being cooperative being a big one.

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By *huramMan
over a year ago

London

Britain is a civil and decent place.

AND IF YOU DON'T DO EXACTLY WHAT I SAY, I WILL FUCKING ABUSE YOU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am not a badge of honour

I am not a racist smear

I am not a fashion statement

To be worn but once a year

I am not glorification

Of conflict or of war

I am not a paper ornament

A token

I am more.

I am a loving memory

Of a father or a son

A permanent reminder

Of each and every one

I am paper or enamel

I am old or shining new

I'm a way of saying thank you

To every one of you

I am a simple POPPY

I reminder to you all

That courage faith and honour

Will stand where heroes fall.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I sometimes wonder how many people would be so in your face about the Poppy Appeal if it simply involved an anonymous donation, rather than something to pin on one's chest and show off.

As it stands, my friends on facebook appear to be in a contest to outdo each other on showing how behind the troops they are. I'm not sure how many of them will buy a Big Issue from a homeless ex-serviceman in a month's time, though.

The Royal British Legion and The Big Issue are two separate and unconnected charities.

The is no reason for ex-Service personnel to be selling The Big Issue, because there is no need for them to be homeless. The Royal British Legion or other Service charities will house them.

Not all of them. Veterans make up very big percentages of the house less and many of the street sleepers

They have a lot of issues that makes rehabilitating and housing them too difficult for charities. Not being cooperative being a big one."

The Royal British Legion estimates the veteran homeless population to be beteeen 6-8% of the rough sleeper population in the UK. Its a significant number, but its not a very big percentage.

Some of them do have multiple issues which act as barriers to getting housed, but not all of them do.

The Legion works with a multitude of other charities and agencies up and down the country to help these people into a tenancy, and to help them to sustain a tenancy. However as a charity, the Legion has no statutory powers to compel people to accept help. If people chose to continue to rough sleep, that is their choice.

I dont want to take the thread into a discussion about if rough sleepers are compos mentis and able to make that decision. I think that is a topic for another thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Britain is a civil and decent place.

AND IF YOU DON'T DO EXACTLY WHAT I SAY, I WILL FUCKING ABUSE YOU."

This.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"So you're saying we should wear a poppy all year round? What with my rainbow of ribbons, Pudsey Bear, and daffodil, I'd be unlikely to lift my coat.

expecting people to wear a poppy to show support is totally against the whole point of 'lest we forget'.

Yup, and if you're wearing a different coat that day you have to switch them all over "

Ye gods, will the peer pressure never end!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a Veteran, I was injured during active service and feel absolutely no need to wear what has been turned into a political emblem to remember friends and colleagues who were killed or injured during their time in the forces.

I also don't need to be constantly reminded theough October and November that i must remember them or I'm a disrespectful arsehole.

I remeber them just about every single day.

There are a lot of people who feel it is their 'patriotic' duty to shout, scream and bawl their opinions on this matter, many of whom have done absolutely nothing for the country they claim to love.

If you want to wear a poppy then wear one, if you dont want to wear one then don't.

Soldiers didn't fight fascists in WWII so that society could become exactly that. Oh, and in more recent history they didn't die for your freedom either. They died because some wanker in government felt it necessary to send them off thousands of miles away to fight somebody else's war.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a Veteran, I was injured during active service and feel absolutely no need to wear what has been turned into a political emblem to remember friends and colleagues who were killed or injured during their time in the forces.

I also don't need to be constantly reminded theough October and November that i must remember them or I'm a disrespectful arsehole.

I remeber them just about every single day.

There are a lot of people who feel it is their 'patriotic' duty to shout, scream and bawl their opinions on this matter, many of whom have done absolutely nothing for the country they claim to love.

If you want to wear a poppy then wear one, if you dont want to wear one then don't.

Soldiers didn't fight fascists in WWII so that society could become exactly that. Oh, and in more recent history they didn't die for your freedom either. They died because some wanker in government felt it necessary to send them off thousands of miles away to fight somebody else's war.

"

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wear one with pride. If others don't, that's their choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the poppy was simply about World War One and Two victims alone, I’d wear it without a problem.

"I would wear it every day of the year if that was the thing but it doesn’t it stands for all conflicts that Britain has been involved in.

"Because of the history of where I come from in Derry, I cannot wear something that represents that.”

- James McClean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I suppose choosing to wear a poppy or not too wear a poppy is a bit like choosing whether or not to attend or a remembrance Sunday memorial event in person.... or electing to spend that time logged into a swingers site instead...

It doesn't mean you don't care.. "

I wish I could have been there.

Work had other ideas unfortunately. On the flip side, we did have the TV on in the office, so I did get to see most of it.

The remembrance day parades is one of the few things on TV that makes me weep.

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By *he tactile technicianMan
over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands

it is a symbol of rememberance, and those that wear it do so to publicly show their respect for those that have lost their lives in conflict as well as from peace keeping duties in areas of the globe in conflict. I wear my poppy out of exactly that, to show respect, I'm not bothered by the decisions made by those that choose not to, however I am afronted by those that decide to despoil the symbol of rememberance by deliberately showing a lack of respect for our public thanks for those that have given their lives.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I am a Veteran, I was injured during active service and feel absolutely no need to wear what has been turned into a political emblem to remember friends and colleagues who were killed or injured during their time in the forces.

I also don't need to be constantly reminded theough October and November that i must remember them or I'm a disrespectful arsehole.

I remeber them just about every single day.

There are a lot of people who feel it is their 'patriotic' duty to shout, scream and bawl their opinions on this matter, many of whom have done absolutely nothing for the country they claim to love.

If you want to wear a poppy then wear one, if you dont want to wear one then don't.

Soldiers didn't fight fascists in WWII so that society could become exactly that. Oh, and in more recent history they didn't die for your freedom either. They died because some wanker in government felt it necessary to send them off thousands of miles away to fight somebody else's war.

"

Simply: this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

There are a lot of people who feel it is their 'patriotic' duty to shout, scream and bawl their opinions on this matter, many of whom have done absolutely nothing for the country they claim to love.

If you want to wear a poppy then wear one, if you dont want to wear one then don't.

Soldiers didn't fight fascists in WWII so that society could become exactly that. Oh, and in more recent history they didn't die for your freedom either. They died because some wanker in government felt it necessary to send them off thousands of miles away to fight somebody else's war.

"

Quite so. Senseless slaughter of expendable pawns by important men, from the safety of their offices.

I donate but do not wear a poppy. I can't be arsed. Being seen without one doesn't make you a c**t.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

aside from everything else, the fact that the RBL accepts sponsorship from the arms trade for remembrance day and other RBL events makes me feel uncomfortable about the way remembrance is now conducted in this country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

There are a lot of people who feel it is their 'patriotic' duty to shout, scream and bawl their opinions on this matter, many of whom have done absolutely nothing for the country they claim to love.

If you want to wear a poppy then wear one, if you dont want to wear one then don't.

Soldiers didn't fight fascists in WWII so that society could become exactly that. Oh, and in more recent history they didn't die for your freedom either. They died because some wanker in government felt it necessary to send them off thousands of miles away to fight somebody else's war.

Quite so. Senseless slaughter of expendable pawns by important men, from the safety of their offices.

I donate but do not wear a poppy. I can't be arsed. Being seen without one doesn't make you a c**t."

Exactly.

The whole thing is a massive contradiction - we see the people, who's decision it is to send these men and women to far flung places to fight in wars that are nothing to do with us, on TV and in the media wearing poppies and talking about remembrance and sacrifice. To me, it's an insult to their memory whilst these politicians are making the same mistakes and repeating history.

War really is futile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

THE POPPY.

I am not a badge of honour,

I am not a racist smear,

I am not a fashion statement,

To be worn but once a year,

I am not glorification

Of conflict or of war.

I am not a paper ornament

A token,

I am more.

I am a loving memory,

Of a father or a son,

A permanent reminder

Of each and every one.

I’m paper or enamel

I’m old or shining new,

I’m a way of saying thank you,

To every one of you.

I am a simple poppy

A Reminder to you all,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"first doesn't not is a double negative .second no it doesn't signify the first plant to grow "

Then I think you need to notify the historians

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wear one with pride, I don't care what others do."

this xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Britain is a civil and decent place.

AND IF YOU DON'T DO EXACTLY WHAT I SAY, I WILL FUCKING ABUSE YOU."

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"I am not a badge of honour

I am not a racist smear

I am not a fashion statement

To be worn but once a year

I am not glorification

Of conflict or of war

I am not a paper ornament

A token

I am more.

I am a loving memory

Of a father or a son

A permanent reminder

Of each and every one

I am paper or enamel

I am old or shining new

I'm a way of saying thank you

To every one of you

I am a simple POPPY

I reminder to you all

That courage faith and honour

Will stand where heroes fall."

All this poem quoting reminds me of the pricks standing outside abortion clinics reciting Hail Marys but ultimately achievening little other than convincing themselves that they are doing something,

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

What a lot of shit has been posted here.

When did charity become an obligation?

When did people fight for our freedom to morally blackmail people into doing what they want?

When since the 1940s has any war been fought to defend us from harm as opposed to reenforce imperialism or to kill Arabs for their natural resources?

When was the last soldier forced into the army? Do they not volunteer to do this?

When did we become so ungrateful as a nation that the people who put their lives on the line to keep our oil fires burning need charity to have a decent home? When did we think that it is ok to put servicemen and women on the streets because they don't have enough money to house themselves?

When did it become an obligation to wear/say/do anything in this country?

Did our grandfathers not die to preserve our freedom of expression and freedom of choice?

Let us please get the fuck over ourselves and realise that it takes all sorts to make the world and everyone may do what they please. Without folks like us putting shit trite moral blackmail on them for something which is meant to be a choice.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

A 92 year old former RAF serviceman refuses to wear a poppy saying it's "politicised and commercialised" and the requirement to wear it has become a "month-long dirge of patriotism".

That was reported in the HuffPo.

I quite agree with him, I wonder how much abuse he's going to get.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"A 92 year old former RAF serviceman refuses to wear a poppy saying it's "politicised and commercialised" and the requirement to wear it has become a "month-long dirge of patriotism".

That was reported in the HuffPo.

I quite agree with him, I wonder how much abuse he's going to get. "

What an ungrateful prick. Does he have no respect? Bloody youth of today, they don't know they are born.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm still wearing mine.

Apart from anything else, it livens up a dull beige mac.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm still wearing mine.

Apart from anything else, it livens up a dull beige mac."

Off topic a bit... but how has it taken me this long to realise you're literally around the corner from me, RubyWoo?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a lot of shit has been posted here.

When did charity become an obligation?

When did people fight for our freedom to morally blackmail people into doing what they want?

When since the 1940s has any war been fought to defend us from harm as opposed to reenforce imperialism or to kill Arabs for their natural resources?

When was the last soldier forced into the army? Do they not volunteer to do this?

When did we become so ungrateful as a nation that the people who put their lives on the line to keep our oil fires burning need charity to have a decent home? When did we think that it is ok to put servicemen and women on the streets because they don't have enough money to house themselves?

When did it become an obligation to wear/say/do anything in this country?

Did our grandfathers not die to preserve our freedom of expression and freedom of choice?

Let us please get the fuck over ourselves and realise that it takes all sorts to make the world and everyone may do what they please. Without folks like us putting shit trite moral blackmail on them for something which is meant to be a choice.

"

Civvy

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