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"I haven't noticed a single rant on here? I have four pets and have no problem with them on bonfire night or New Years- I can plan for that (and do). Its the fact that it goes on for weeks sometimes either side that makes me fraustrated for my animals because I have to keep them in so much x" Its my Facebook news feed that is full of the rants.. sorry for the confusion. Just find it slightly odd that animals are influencing how the human race acts. Bonfire night is a tradition and just a bit of fun (yes there are some majorly stupid adults out there who ruin it).. | |||
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"I haven't noticed a single rant on here? I have four pets and have no problem with them on bonfire night or New Years- I can plan for that (and do). Its the fact that it goes on for weeks sometimes either side that makes me fraustrated for my animals because I have to keep them in so much x Animals have as much right to live as much as humans. Its my Facebook news feed that is full of the rants.. sorry for the confusion. Just find it slightly odd that animals are influencing how the human race acts. Bonfire night is a tradition and just a bit of fun (yes there are some majorly stupid adults out there who ruin it).. " | |||
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"I haven't noticed a single rant on here? I have four pets and have no problem with them on bonfire night or New Years- I can plan for that (and do). Its the fact that it goes on for weeks sometimes either side that makes me fraustrated for my animals because I have to keep them in so much x Its my Facebook news feed that is full of the rants.. sorry for the confusion. Just find it slightly odd that animals are influencing how the human race acts. Bonfire night is a tradition and just a bit of fun (yes there are some majorly stupid adults out there who ruin it).. " Very- some by not ensuring their pets welfare, and some just plain cruel people. | |||
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"Fucking hate them. Should ban them and only have public displays. Have the bastard noise everyday up till new year now. " Yep with you on this... | |||
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"Should ban them and only have public displays." | |||
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"Screw the pets, I'm fucking terrified of them." Haha I dont like it when they go off and I cant see them, They may be pretty but there hazardous too! My TV is up loud but dogs still barking away all can do is cuddle my pup | |||
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"Sick of bloomin pet owners ranting and raving about fireworks,, GET OVER IT.. you know it happens and you know your beloved pets might not like them.. Turn up your TV's.. play louder music,, in the mean time im going to enjoy the fireworks Thank You " lol,,oi I LOVE my dog,,,n I ADORE fireworks but why do you feel the need to mention pets,,if it bugs ya they get worried TOUGH,,FUCKING DEAL WITH IT | |||
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"Silly post from the OP I gotta say. havnt seen one thread ranting about fireworks. And even if their was...they have good reason as its no longer "one night of the year" they have been going off almost a week or more now, not only that its mid week and kids have school, people have work tomorrow snd its now past 10 o'clock and they are still going off left right and centre. Selfish human beings that is all we are....dont give a flying fuck about the animals we share the world with....just as long as we get our jollys. fuck humans give me animals any day." it is innit,,fucking banal garbage | |||
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"Come and sit with my dog who hasn't stopped shaking since I stepped in from work. He refuses to go out / walk and is breathing so heavily due to stress and is dripping saliva everywhere. It's now 10pm and if anything they seem to be getting louder if anything. Blinds shut, windows shut, lay on bed with him, poor bugger. Not a rant, just a statement of why they aren't for everyones enjoyment. Would you enjoy them if your little un was scared to death of them and you saw her in such a state ?" It's a dog. I couldn't give a shit if its scared to be honest. It's not going to die. It'll have forgotten about it tomorrow. | |||
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"To the grumpy pet owners with the all year round barking dogs. Trepassing shitting in your garden cats etc. I do hope you have a very banging weekend. Merry Christmas btw " They're all worried their pets will shit themselves in fright, on their premises! | |||
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"I take it the OP doesn't own a pet " I heard she had a pet rock | |||
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"Come and sit with my dog who hasn't stopped shaking since I stepped in from work. He refuses to go out / walk and is breathing so heavily due to stress and is dripping saliva everywhere. It's now 10pm and if anything they seem to be getting louder if anything. Blinds shut, windows shut, lay on bed with him, poor bugger. Not a rant, just a statement of why they aren't for everyones enjoyment. Would you enjoy them if your little un was scared to death of them and you saw her in such a state ? It's a dog. I couldn't give a shit if its scared to be honest. It's not going to die. It'll have forgotten about it tomorrow." WOW what a caring human being you are! NOT! And to all the others, Some true colours have been shown on this thread and one's I would happily have no interaction with in real life! | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. " People use tons of things as weapons that are still on sale. | |||
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"They should be banned " Don't be daft... Already told what we can and can't do/have far too much these days. So no.... | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. People use tons of things as weapons that are still on sale." People who think it's ok to hurt an innocent animal shouldn't be allowed to purchase fireworks or other weapons. The horses also got glassed and cut. There should be greater restrictions on people wanting to purchase those such items. | |||
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"I take it the OP doesn't own a pet " no i dont but i have had cats/dogs when i lived with parents | |||
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"hit a few nerves with that post.. ooops " yes but only cos it was posted without any thought other than your own enjoyment.. as for the comments about pets etc, guide dogs and other assistance dogs make some people's lives liveable with dignity but hey fuck them too huh.. some selfish fuck you jack attitudes on here at times.. | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. People use tons of things as weapons that are still on sale. People who think it's ok to hurt an innocent animal shouldn't be allowed to purchase fireworks or other weapons. The horses also got glassed and cut. There should be greater restrictions on people wanting to purchase those such items. " So if glass was used then that should be restricted to the public too. I know what you mean bit it's not he person not the weapon used... If you want to blind a horse then a lack of fireworks won't stop you What if they'd used petrol and a match? Massively dangerous and freely available and probably used in many more acts of vandalism than fireworks? Peroxide maybe? Or one of the many lovely things you can find under your sink, mix up and get chlorine gas say? Or makeshift napalm...would we then ban those things? | |||
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"hit a few nerves with that post.. ooops yes but only cos it was posted without any thought other than your own enjoyment.. as for the comments about pets etc, guide dogs and other assistance dogs make some people's lives liveable with dignity but hey fuck them too huh.. some selfish fuck you jack attitudes on here at times.." and just what exactly is wrong with being selfish at times? i chose not to have a pet,, i chose to enjoy fireworks.. doesnt make me some evil bitch in life just because my facebook newsfeed was full of negativity for an event that friends and familys of mine enjoy. i understand SOME animals may not like bangs.. but its inevitable that at this time of the year there will be loud noises. i DO NOT condone idiots who exploit and misuse fireworks to create harm and use fireworks for purposes to scare/mame/harm others.. But as a person.. i expressed an opinion that people get pets and they know that Nov 5th is potentially a stressful time for animals.. owners rant and rave that its a stressful time of year and fireworks should be banned,, and i chose the counter rant that i love them. freedom of speech. wonderful thing | |||
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"hit a few nerves with that post.. ooops yes but only cos it was posted without any thought other than your own enjoyment.. as for the comments about pets etc, guide dogs and other assistance dogs make some people's lives liveable with dignity but hey fuck them too huh.. some selfish fuck you jack attitudes on here at times.." Guide and help type dogs tend to be brilliant for fireworks...they tend to be trained for loud noises/crowds and high stress situations. | |||
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"hit a few nerves with that post.. ooops yes but only cos it was posted without any thought other than your own enjoyment.. as for the comments about pets etc, guide dogs and other assistance dogs make some people's lives liveable with dignity but hey fuck them too huh.. some selfish fuck you jack attitudes on here at times.. and just what exactly is wrong with being selfish at times? i chose not to have a pet,, i chose to enjoy fireworks.. doesnt make me some evil bitch in life just because my facebook newsfeed was full of negativity for an event that friends and familys of mine enjoy. i understand SOME animals may not like bangs.. but its inevitable that at this time of the year there will be loud noises. i DO NOT condone idiots who exploit and misuse fireworks to create harm and use fireworks for purposes to scare/mame/harm others.. But as a person.. i expressed an opinion that people get pets and they know that Nov 5th is potentially a stressful time for animals.. owners rant and rave that its a stressful time of year and fireworks should be banned,, and i chose the counter rant that i love them. freedom of speech. wonderful thing " so post it on Facebook then where the rants where. | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. People use tons of things as weapons that are still on sale. People who think it's ok to hurt an innocent animal shouldn't be allowed to purchase fireworks or other weapons. The horses also got glassed and cut. There should be greater restrictions on people wanting to purchase those such items. So if glass was used then that should be restricted to the public too. I know what you mean bit it's not he person not the weapon used... If you want to blind a horse then a lack of fireworks won't stop you What if they'd used petrol and a match? Massively dangerous and freely available and probably used in many more acts of vandalism than fireworks? Peroxide maybe? Or one of the many lovely things you can find under your sink, mix up and get chlorine gas say? Or makeshift napalm...would we then ban those things? " Please crawl back under the rock you came out of. I don't care if I get a ban for saying so. This thread was about fireworks not other weapons. I don't like them I think they should be banned. Because of people being able to get hold of them I have to sedate my dog from the middle of October til after new year. Stick to organised events then I would atleast know when they were happening. Ok everyone has a right to speak how they want it's an open forum but you are being overly difficult. | |||
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" so post it on Facebook then where the rants where. " Who's to say i didnt? | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. People use tons of things as weapons that are still on sale. People who think it's ok to hurt an innocent animal shouldn't be allowed to purchase fireworks or other weapons. The horses also got glassed and cut. There should be greater restrictions on people wanting to purchase those such items. So if glass was used then that should be restricted to the public too. I know what you mean bit it's not he person not the weapon used... If you want to blind a horse then a lack of fireworks won't stop you What if they'd used petrol and a match? Massively dangerous and freely available and probably used in many more acts of vandalism than fireworks? Peroxide maybe? Or one of the many lovely things you can find under your sink, mix up and get chlorine gas say? Or makeshift napalm...would we then ban those things? Please crawl back under the rock you came out of. I don't care if I get a ban for saying so. This thread was about fireworks not other weapons. I don't like them I think they should be banned. Because of people being able to get hold of them I have to sedate my dog from the middle of October til after new year. Stick to organised events then I would atleast know when they were happening. Ok everyone has a right to speak how they want it's an open forum but you are being overly difficult. " Haha lol, I just pointed our a few things and you didn't like it was all | |||
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"In response to the 'i see no threads about pet owners ranting' Not every thing on the lounge is related to stuff in the lounge,, its topics from life in general.. so surely i can rant where i see fit " do what you want, just don't expect everyone to agree with you, as been said further up some true colours shown on this thread. | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. People use tons of things as weapons that are still on sale. People who think it's ok to hurt an innocent animal shouldn't be allowed to purchase fireworks or other weapons. The horses also got glassed and cut. There should be greater restrictions on people wanting to purchase those such items. So if glass was used then that should be restricted to the public too. I know what you mean bit it's not he person not the weapon used... If you want to blind a horse then a lack of fireworks won't stop you What if they'd used petrol and a match? Massively dangerous and freely available and probably used in many more acts of vandalism than fireworks? Peroxide maybe? Or one of the many lovely things you can find under your sink, mix up and get chlorine gas say? Or makeshift napalm...would we then ban those things? Please crawl back under the rock you came out of. I don't care if I get a ban for saying so. This thread was about fireworks not other weapons. I don't like them I think they should be banned. Because of people being able to get hold of them I have to sedate my dog from the middle of October til after new year. Stick to organised events then I would atleast know when they were happening. Ok everyone has a right to speak how they want it's an open forum but you are being overly difficult. Haha lol, I just pointed our a few things and you didn't like it was all " Well done. Round of applause for the big fella | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. People use tons of things as weapons that are still on sale. People who think it's ok to hurt an innocent animal shouldn't be allowed to purchase fireworks or other weapons. The horses also got glassed and cut. There should be greater restrictions on people wanting to purchase those such items. So if glass was used then that should be restricted to the public too. I know what you mean bit it's not he person not the weapon used... If you want to blind a horse then a lack of fireworks won't stop you What if they'd used petrol and a match? Massively dangerous and freely available and probably used in many more acts of vandalism than fireworks? Peroxide maybe? Or one of the many lovely things you can find under your sink, mix up and get chlorine gas say? Or makeshift napalm...would we then ban those things? Please crawl back under the rock you came out of. I don't care if I get a ban for saying so. This thread was about fireworks not other weapons. I don't like them I think they should be banned. Because of people being able to get hold of them I have to sedate my dog from the middle of October til after new year. Stick to organised events then I would atleast know when they were happening. Ok everyone has a right to speak how they want it's an open forum but you are being overly difficult. " Everyone has the right to speak And in the same breath asking me to stop... Self centered much? You just want to say your bit is all | |||
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"hit a few nerves with that post.. ooops yes but only cos it was posted without any thought other than your own enjoyment.. as for the comments about pets etc, guide dogs and other assistance dogs make some people's lives liveable with dignity but hey fuck them too huh.. some selfish fuck you jack attitudes on here at times.. and just what exactly is wrong with being selfish at times? i chose not to have a pet,, i chose to enjoy fireworks.. doesnt make me some evil bitch in life just because my facebook newsfeed was full of negativity for an event that friends and familys of mine enjoy. i understand SOME animals may not like bangs.. but its inevitable that at this time of the year there will be loud noises. i DO NOT condone idiots who exploit and misuse fireworks to create harm and use fireworks for purposes to scare/mame/harm others.. But as a person.. i expressed an opinion that people get pets and they know that Nov 5th is potentially a stressful time for animals.. owners rant and rave that its a stressful time of year and fireworks should be banned,, and i chose the counter rant that i love them. freedom of speech. wonderful thing " why did you feel to vent your frustration on here when your issue is with what's on your facebook? no one is saying you condone idiots etc so why you feel the need to justify yourself is a bit strange.. the 'ban them, don't ban them' debate funnily enough does come round every year but you don't seem to have wanted to debate just basically say 'get over it'.. nice empathy.. | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. People use tons of things as weapons that are still on sale. People who think it's ok to hurt an innocent animal shouldn't be allowed to purchase fireworks or other weapons. The horses also got glassed and cut. There should be greater restrictions on people wanting to purchase those such items. So if glass was used then that should be restricted to the public too. I know what you mean bit it's not he person not the weapon used... If you want to blind a horse then a lack of fireworks won't stop you What if they'd used petrol and a match? Massively dangerous and freely available and probably used in many more acts of vandalism than fireworks? Peroxide maybe? Or one of the many lovely things you can find under your sink, mix up and get chlorine gas say? Or makeshift napalm...would we then ban those things? Please crawl back under the rock you came out of. I don't care if I get a ban for saying so. This thread was about fireworks not other weapons. I don't like them I think they should be banned. Because of people being able to get hold of them I have to sedate my dog from the middle of October til after new year. Stick to organised events then I would atleast know when they were happening. Ok everyone has a right to speak how they want it's an open forum but you are being overly difficult. Haha lol, I just pointed our a few things and you didn't like it was all Well done. Round of applause for the big fella" Yay! Go me | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. People use tons of things as weapons that are still on sale. People who think it's ok to hurt an innocent animal shouldn't be allowed to purchase fireworks or other weapons. The horses also got glassed and cut. There should be greater restrictions on people wanting to purchase those such items. So if glass was used then that should be restricted to the public too. I know what you mean bit it's not he person not the weapon used... If you want to blind a horse then a lack of fireworks won't stop you What if they'd used petrol and a match? Massively dangerous and freely available and probably used in many more acts of vandalism than fireworks? Peroxide maybe? Or one of the many lovely things you can find under your sink, mix up and get chlorine gas say? Or makeshift napalm...would we then ban those things? Please crawl back under the rock you came out of. I don't care if I get a ban for saying so. This thread was about fireworks not other weapons. I don't like them I think they should be banned. Because of people being able to get hold of them I have to sedate my dog from the middle of October til after new year. Stick to organised events then I would atleast know when they were happening. Ok everyone has a right to speak how they want it's an open forum but you are being overly difficult. Everyone has the right to speak And in the same breath asking me to stop... Self centered much? You just want to say your bit is all " Yep I'm self centered. Anything else? | |||
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"In response to the 'i see no threads about pet owners ranting' Not every thing on the lounge is related to stuff in the lounge,, its topics from life in general.. so surely i can rant where i see fit do what you want, just don't expect everyone to agree with you, as been said further up some true colours shown on this thread. " Not stupid enough to think for a moment that everyone would agree with me,, just wanted a moment to vent my opinion. and everyone else is entitled to theirs | |||
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"hit a few nerves with that post.. ooops yes but only cos it was posted without any thought other than your own enjoyment.. as for the comments about pets etc, guide dogs and other assistance dogs make some people's lives liveable with dignity but hey fuck them too huh.. some selfish fuck you jack attitudes on here at times.. Guide and help type dogs tend to be brilliant for fireworks...they tend to be trained for loud noises/crowds and high stress situations. " agree.. but not all assistance dogs are trained to the same level as guide dogs.. | |||
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"I think sometimes non-pet owners fail to understand that pet owners really love and care about their pets and want to protect them. The same as people do with their children. So if there's something that upsets their pet, then they will probably get a bit irked about it and want to rant as well as preferring it didn't happen." | |||
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"Hands up i posted in frustration.. thats the point of a vent. I was pee'd off at the time i posted and note to myself is that i think before i post Ive requested the thread be removed. Im not evil" why request it to be removed, stand by your convictions. Or maybe you don't like the replies | |||
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"Hands up i posted in frustration.. thats the point of a vent. I was pee'd off at the time i posted and note to myself is that i think before i post Ive requested the thread be removed. Im not evil" maybe next time vent at the right place.. | |||
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"Hands up i posted in frustration.. thats the point of a vent. I was pee'd off at the time i posted and note to myself is that i think before i post Ive requested the thread be removed. Im not evil why request it to be removed, stand by your convictions. Or maybe you don't like the replies" Let just keep all the happy and fluffy threads alive, and show we are really not flawed in the slightest | |||
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"I posted a thread a couple of weeks back titled "Fucking fireworks". If that was a rant, so be it. It sounds like Beirut here. Have been decamped in the front room with the tv up loud while it sounds like a scene from Apocalypse Now outside. It's been like this every night for two weeks now. Think that is just too much. I can't imagine how stressed local wildlife are given howstressed domestic animals get. But no one ever mentions them. Or the hedgehogs that get incinerated in bonfires. Still, who cares, eh?" Some of us do....just not enough | |||
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"Hands up i posted in frustration.. thats the point of a vent. I was pee'd off at the time i posted and note to myself is that i think before i post Ive requested the thread be removed. Im not evilwhy request it to be removed, stand by your convictions. Or maybe you don't like the replies" | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. People use tons of things as weapons that are still on sale. People who think it's ok to hurt an innocent animal shouldn't be allowed to purchase fireworks or other weapons. The horses also got glassed and cut. There should be greater restrictions on people wanting to purchase those such items. So if glass was used then that should be restricted to the public too. I know what you mean bit it's not he person not the weapon used... If you want to blind a horse then a lack of fireworks won't stop you What if they'd used petrol and a match? Massively dangerous and freely available and probably used in many more acts of vandalism than fireworks? Peroxide maybe? Or one of the many lovely things you can find under your sink, mix up and get chlorine gas say? Or makeshift napalm...would we then ban those things? Please crawl back under the rock you came out of. I don't care if I get a ban for saying so. This thread was about fireworks not other weapons. I don't like them I think they should be banned. Because of people being able to get hold of them I have to sedate my dog from the middle of October til after new year. Stick to organised events then I would atleast know when they were happening. Ok everyone has a right to speak how they want it's an open forum but you are being overly difficult. Everyone has the right to speak And in the same breath asking me to stop... Self centered much? You just want to say your bit is all Yep I'm self centered. Anything else? " Just that for now | |||
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"Hands up i posted in frustration.. thats the point of a vent. I was pee'd off at the time i posted and note to myself is that i think before i post Ive requested the thread be removed. Im not evil why request it to be removed, stand by your convictions. Or maybe you don't like the replies Let just keep all the happy and fluffy threads alive, and show we are really not flawed in the slightest " I think this thread has been a real eye opener | |||
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"Ban all public sales, organised displays only. For a multitude of reasons. Not just for animals, but children and adults too. " Health and safety ...? | |||
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"Hands up i posted in frustration.. thats the point of a vent. I was pee'd off at the time i posted and note to myself is that i think before i post Ive requested the thread be removed. Im not evil why request it to be removed, stand by your convictions. Or maybe you don't like the replies Lets just keep all the happy and fluffy threads alive, and show we are really not flawed in the slightest I think this thread has been a real eye opener" Just a little bit! | |||
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"Ban all public sales, organised displays only. For a multitude of reasons. Not just for animals, but children and adults too. Health and safety ...? " Health and safety. Allowing stupid people to breed since 1982. | |||
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"Ban all public sales, organised displays only. For a multitude of reasons. Not just for animals, but children and adults too. Health and safety ...? Health and safety. Allowing stupid people to breed since 1982." Oh really... | |||
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"Ban all public sales, organised displays only. For a multitude of reasons. Not just for animals, but children and adults too. Health and safety ...? Health and safety. Allowing stupid people to breed since 1982." Is that when you were born? Just wondering | |||
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"Ban all public sales, organised displays only. For a multitude of reasons. Not just for animals, but children and adults too. Health and safety ...? Health and safety. Allowing stupid people to breed since 1982. Is that when you were born? Just wondering " Age is on my profile...easy enough to work out | |||
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"Ban all public sales, organised displays only. For a multitude of reasons. Not just for animals, but children and adults too. Health and safety ...? Health and safety. Allowing stupid people to breed since 1982. Is that when you were born? Just wondering Age is on my profile...easy enough to work out " Your profile is of no interest to me | |||
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"How old do you have to be to join Fab again? " Older than their shoe sizes xD | |||
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"How old do you have to be to join Fab again? " 18 and 3/4 | |||
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"I like fireworks and we always have them at home and I always remember the Blue Peter code. " My pussy left and hasn't come back because of them | |||
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"In response to the 'i see no threads about pet owners ranting' Not every thing on the lounge is related to stuff in the lounge,, its topics from life in general.. so surely i can rant where i see fit do what you want, just don't expect everyone to agree with you, as been said further up some true colours shown on this thread. " | |||
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"I like fireworks and we always have them at home and I always remember the Blue Peter code. My pussy left and hasn't come back because of them" I don't think I live near you. | |||
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"Someone used them to blind one police horse and injure 5 others at that Million Mask march in London so I think they should ban selling them to the public. " Someone through a lot firework in to a town hall in my home town. & it was full of people doing an exercise class! I agree with you. They should be banned to the public. They are dangerous & a nuisance. Don't get me wrong. I really do like fireworks. We have the world Fireworks championships here in Blackpool every September, & they are amazing. But these crappy ones from supermarkets are just all noise & no sparkle! Waste of money! | |||
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"I think they should be banned and only organised displays should be allowed....not just for the sake of pets. agree 100%" I agree 100% too. I don't own any pets but My 2 sons have been frightened this last few nights. There has been literally hundreds going off from 5pm till midnight. They can't sleep. Been grumpy at school. It isn't fair. | |||
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"hit a few nerves with that post.. ooops yes but only cos it was posted without any thought other than your own enjoyment.. as for the comments about pets etc, guide dogs and other assistance dogs make some people's lives liveable with dignity but hey fuck them too huh.. some selfish fuck you jack attitudes on here at times.. Guide and help type dogs tend to be brilliant for fireworks...they tend to be trained for loud noises/crowds and high stress situations. " Yeah. Stupid comment. | |||
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"Come and sit with my dog who hasn't stopped shaking since I stepped in from work. He refuses to go out / walk and is breathing so heavily due to stress and is dripping saliva everywhere. It's now 10pm and if anything they seem to be getting louder if anything. Blinds shut, windows shut, lay on bed with him, poor bugger. Not a rant, just a statement of why they aren't for everyones enjoyment. Would you enjoy them if your little un was scared to death of them and you saw her in such a state ?" | |||
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"I dont understand why we celebrate ..... guy fawkes was a terrorist .... he tried to blow up the houses of parliament didn't he ??" Yeah. But let's be honest. Who doesn't wanna do that nowadays. And he was victimised for being a Catholic. Something to do with that cunt Henry the eighth wanting to fuck other women and kill the odd wife here and there. | |||
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"This thread has become fucking inane.....why bring up other weapons? That is not what we were speaking about! And to get the thread back on track, yes us who own animals who are shit scared of the fuckers, yes we can cope with it for one day, just not the three fucking months they are on sale for! So yes I am for a public display only and not for private sale! Clear enough? " | |||
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"This thread has become fucking inane.....why bring up other weapons? That is not what we were speaking about! And to get the thread back on track, yes us who own animals who are shit scared of the fuckers, yes we can cope with it for one day, just not the three fucking months they are on sale for! So yes I am for a public display only and not for private sale! Clear enough? " They never go on for that long. The fireworks not the selling | |||
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"Fucking hate them. Should ban them and only have public displays. Have the bastard noise everyday up till new year now. " Is your real name Victor, by any chance? | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. " And how long have we had to put up with a fortnight's worth of fireworks rather than one night? That is quite a modern thing. Also it is a source of wonder that you can buy explosive material in the shops yet not take 125ml of aftershave/perfume on a plane. Doesn't make sense to me | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. That's a piss poor argument. " this Think people who enjoy fireworks are, deep down, uncomfortable with the knowledge that their enjoyment causes so much distress so they resort to deflecting and apportioning blame elsewhere. The sad part is that most pet owners wouldn't mind if it were just one night. But it isn't. It goes on night after night after night... Doubtless we will be given more to endure tonight - though why fans haven't had their fill by now, I don't know. You've seen one firework display, you've seen them all, in my opinion. Sad that so many firework fans can't be content with on one night at an organised displays. Why is that? Do they like knowing they are causing animals lots of stress - not to mention how many kids end up injured, maimed and even killed by the damned things? Mystery to me | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. That's a piss poor argument. this Think people who enjoy fireworks are, deep down, uncomfortable with the knowledge that their enjoyment causes so much distress so they resort to deflecting and apportioning blame elsewhere. The sad part is that most pet owners wouldn't mind if it were just one night. But it isn't. It goes on night after night after night... Doubtless we will be given more to endure tonight - though why fans haven't had their fill by now, I don't know. You've seen one firework display, you've seen them all, in my opinion. Sad that so many firework fans can't be content with on one night at an organised displays. Why is that? Do they like knowing they are causing animals lots of stress - not to mention how many kids end up injured, maimed and even killed by the damned things? Mystery to me " Many kids nd adults and beloved pets get maimed and/or killed by cars....will you be walking everywhere from now on or do you like knowing how much anguish and hurt you could cause behind the wheel? Such a ridiculous statement to make. | |||
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"Ok..well if we didn't breed the pets to be such softies they'd be able to cope. Either side of the argument, it's a man made problem" That's an even worse argument, seriously. And I absolutely love fireworks. But there were some going off round me at 3am last night so I think I'm entitled to be a bit pissed off about them. Yes it's man made in that people are absolute cunts to each other and the rest of the beings on the earth, as demonstrated by this thread tbh. But to suggest it's because it hasn't been 'bred' out of the animals we keep as pets is a crock of shit. Any species that had the ability to be frightened by unusual loud bangs bred out of it wouldn't be around for long. Ditto small children. I kind of want children and pets to be averse to the noise of explosions. | |||
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"Only if people are idiots about it. Alcohol for example, is fine so long as it's not abused. Some people have said that the fireworks go on for months. This simply isn't true. You might get say about a week and it does die down. To assume that people condone children being mutilated is ridiculous" You are being ridiculous. Why is one night not enough? Why not only have organised events? Are you happy that kids can - and will - get injured? The numbers would be minimal if kept to public displays but people like you don't seem to want that. Why?? | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. That's a piss poor argument. this Think people who enjoy fireworks are, deep down, uncomfortable with the knowledge that their enjoyment causes so much distress so they resort to deflecting and apportioning blame elsewhere. The sad part is that most pet owners wouldn't mind if it were just one night. But it isn't. It goes on night after night after night... Doubtless we will be given more to endure tonight - though why fans haven't had their fill by now, I don't know. You've seen one firework display, you've seen them all, in my opinion. Sad that so many firework fans can't be content with on one night at an organised displays. Why is that? Do they like knowing they are causing animals lots of stress - not to mention how many kids end up injured, maimed and even killed by the damned things? Mystery to me Many kids nd adults and beloved pets get maimed and/or killed by cars....will you be walking everywhere from now on or do you like knowing how much anguish and hurt you could cause behind the wheel? Such a ridiculous statement to make. Where I can walk I will walk. When I have to drive - eg for work - I will drive. Ideally, yes, I would never have to drive. But for obvious reasons we all have to Now, tell me, why DO you have to let off fireworks? And why night after night ? And why can't you be happy to watch them for one night, safely, at an organised event? Please tell me. I have told you why I need to drive " Why can't people be trusted to be sensible about it. Alcohol kills and murders more people than fireworks ever do. Why do you drink? Can't you just have fun without the need for alcohol? | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. That's a piss poor argument. this Think people who enjoy fireworks are, deep down, uncomfortable with the knowledge that their enjoyment causes so much distress so they resort to deflecting and apportioning blame elsewhere. The sad part is that most pet owners wouldn't mind if it were just one night. But it isn't. It goes on night after night after night... Doubtless we will be given more to endure tonight - though why fans haven't had their fill by now, I don't know. You've seen one firework display, you've seen them all, in my opinion. Sad that so many firework fans can't be content with on one night at an organised displays. Why is that? Do they like knowing they are causing animals lots of stress - not to mention how many kids end up injured, maimed and even killed by the damned things? Mystery to me Many kids nd adults and beloved pets get maimed and/or killed by cars....will you be walking everywhere from now on or do you like knowing how much anguish and hurt you could cause behind the wheel? Such a ridiculous statement to make. Where I can walk I will walk. When I have to drive - eg for work - I will drive. Ideally, yes, I would never have to drive. But for obvious reasons we all have to Now, tell me, why DO you have to let off fireworks? And why night after night ? And why can't you be happy to watch them for one night, safely, at an organised event? Please tell me. I have told you why I need to drive " because i like them, simple as that really. but then i dont set them off, i attend organised events by companies. I dont believe that pets should dictate the way i live my life. I provide my two cats with all they want, food, shelter, security etc but they know i am the boss and they know if i am calm they have nothing to worry about which is why they arent bothered by fireworks. | |||
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"Sick of bloomin pet owners ranting and raving about fireworks,, GET OVER IT.. you know it happens and you know your beloved pets might not like them.. Turn up your TV's.. play louder music,, in the mean time im going to enjoy the fireworks Thank You " If that's how you enjoy burning your money fine with me just remember where you milk comes from | |||
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"Sick of bloomin pet owners ranting and raving about fireworks,, GET OVER IT.. you know it happens and you know your beloved pets might not like them.. Turn up your TV's.. play louder music,, in the mean time im going to enjoy the fireworks Thank You If that's how you enjoy burning your money fine with me just remember where you milk comes from" you milk your pets??? | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. That's a piss poor argument. this Think people who enjoy fireworks are, deep down, uncomfortable with the knowledge that their enjoyment causes so much distress so they resort to deflecting and apportioning blame elsewhere. The sad part is that most pet owners wouldn't mind if it were just one night. But it isn't. It goes on night after night after night... Doubtless we will be given more to endure tonight - though why fans haven't had their fill by now, I don't know. You've seen one firework display, you've seen them all, in my opinion. Sad that so many firework fans can't be content with on one night at an organised displays. Why is that? Do they like knowing they are causing animals lots of stress - not to mention how many kids end up injured, maimed and even killed by the damned things? Mystery to me Many kids nd adults and beloved pets get maimed and/or killed by cars....will you be walking everywhere from now on or do you like knowing how much anguish and hurt you could cause behind the wheel? Such a ridiculous statement to make. Where I can walk I will walk. When I have to drive - eg for work - I will drive. Ideally, yes, I would never have to drive. But for obvious reasons we all have to Now, tell me, why DO you have to let off fireworks? And why night after night ? And why can't you be happy to watch them for one night, safely, at an organised event? Please tell me. I have told you why I need to drive Why can't people be trusted to be sensible about it. Alcohol kills and murders more people than fireworks ever do. Why do you drink? Can't you just have fun without the need for alcohol? I notice you have no reason that you can cite to defend the position that one night and organised events are sufficient. You seem to want to bring everything down to reductio ad absurdum" I personally don't have a problem with more than one night. It's what I feel. I understand that this is not a shared opinion but that's the beauty of debate. Not everyone with agree but what a boring world we would live in if we did. I appreciate pet owners have their issues with it and that's fine. But for many people they enjoy it and even home displays bring their magic. The excitement of such things to children is magical | |||
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"I don't over indulge my pet. If I did that I would have a dog I couldn't control. My dog is a rescue dog was picked up by the dog warden the week after new year. She was about 6 months old at the time and had probably been out roaming for a few weeks as she was very underweight. Because of this she hates loud bangs. Someone could slam a car door outside and it sets her off. I have been through 3 dog behaviourists to try and sort out all the issues she has. It's not her fault it's partly mine when I split from my X he said he was going to keep her but then dumped her back at the RSPCA. I got her back but she then had to spend 3 weeks at a kennel while I had an operation. She turns herself in knots this time of year and the only way to deal with it is for me to sedate her. We have had fireworks going off round where I live since the middle of October. So am I supposed to sedate my dog from then til after the new year? Not exactly very practical. " Bad nerves are an animal thing as much as a human. I do ok with my sedation,I wouldn't get through a day let alone fireworks without it. I would give an animal sedation for a few days a year if needed. I know how horrible a nervous disposition is. | |||
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"I don't over indulge my pet. If I did that I would have a dog I couldn't control. My dog is a rescue dog was picked up by the dog warden the week after new year. She was about 6 months old at the time and had probably been out roaming for a few weeks as she was very underweight. Because of this she hates loud bangs. Someone could slam a car door outside and it sets her off. I have been through 3 dog behaviourists to try and sort out all the issues she has. It's not her fault it's partly mine when I split from my X he said he was going to keep her but then dumped her back at the RSPCA. I got her back but she then had to spend 3 weeks at a kennel while I had an operation. She turns herself in knots this time of year and the only way to deal with it is for me to sedate her. We have had fireworks going off round where I live since the middle of October. So am I supposed to sedate my dog from then til after the new year? Not exactly very practical. Bad nerves are an animal thing as much as a human. I do ok with my sedation,I wouldn't get through a day let alone fireworks without it. I would give an animal sedation for a few days a year if needed. I know how horrible a nervous disposition is. " A few days yes not weeks and weeks though. | |||
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"I don't over indulge my pet. If I did that I would have a dog I couldn't control. My dog is a rescue dog was picked up by the dog warden the week after new year. She was about 6 months old at the time and had probably been out roaming for a few weeks as she was very underweight. Because of this she hates loud bangs. Someone could slam a car door outside and it sets her off. I have been through 3 dog behaviourists to try and sort out all the issues she has. It's not her fault it's partly mine when I split from my X he said he was going to keep her but then dumped her back at the RSPCA. I got her back but she then had to spend 3 weeks at a kennel while I had an operation. She turns herself in knots this time of year and the only way to deal with it is for me to sedate her. We have had fireworks going off round where I live since the middle of October. So am I supposed to sedate my dog from then til after the new year? Not exactly very practical. Bad nerves are an animal thing as much as a human. I do ok with my sedation,I wouldn't get through a day let alone fireworks without it. I would give an animal sedation for a few days a year if needed. I know how horrible a nervous disposition is. A few days yes not weeks and weeks though. " That wouldn't be such a bad thing though. I don't know what kinds of noises your dog reacts to or the loudness so I can't really say but without my medication I jump at a car door banging. One of our dogs jumps at noises indoors but the fireworks aren't bothering her. I thought she would be a wreck. | |||
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"Some people like playing music full volume at three in the morning. As a society we don't accept the "because I like it" argument. We all have to rub alongside one another and have to show consideration. But not with fireworks seemingly... Ultimately people have shown time and again that they can't be trusted to handle fireworks sensibly, so why allow their sale every year? The other day we saw on the local news pictures of people firing fireworks at cars driving along. Incredibly dangerous so why allow it? "Because I like them" seems the inconsiderate answer. Those who use it should remember next time their neighbours really piss them off with inconsiderate behaviour " Its very much a minority. I think most firework friendly people would agree that it's really for special occasions. And to have them everyday would spoil the beauty of them. And they are beautiful and a great way of "celebrating" | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. That's a piss poor argument. this Think people who enjoy fireworks are, deep down, uncomfortable with the knowledge that their enjoyment causes so much distress so they resort to deflecting and apportioning blame elsewhere. The sad part is that most pet owners wouldn't mind if it were just one night. But it isn't. It goes on night after night after night... Doubtless we will be given more to endure tonight - though why fans haven't had their fill by now, I don't know. You've seen one firework display, you've seen them all, in my opinion. Sad that so many firework fans can't be content with on one night at an organised displays. Why is that? Do they like knowing they are causing animals lots of stress - not to mention how many kids end up injured, maimed and even killed by the damned things? Mystery to me Many kids nd adults and beloved pets get maimed and/or killed by cars....will you be walking everywhere from now on or do you like knowing how much anguish and hurt you could cause behind the wheel? Such a ridiculous statement to make. Where I can walk I will walk. When I have to drive - eg for work - I will drive. Ideally, yes, I would never have to drive. But for obvious reasons we all have to Now, tell me, why DO you have to let off fireworks? And why night after night ? And why can't you be happy to watch them for one night, safely, at an organised event? Please tell me. I have told you why I need to drive Why can't people be trusted to be sensible about it. Alcohol kills and murders more people than fireworks ever do. Why do you drink? Can't you just have fun without the need for alcohol? I notice you have no reason that you can cite to defend the position that one night and organised events are sufficient. You seem to want to bring everything down to reductio ad absurdum I personally don't have a problem with more than one night. It's what I feel. I understand that this is not a shared opinion but that's the beauty of debate. Not everyone with agree but what a boring world we would live in if we did. I appreciate pet owners have their issues with it and that's fine. But for many people they enjoy it and even home displays bring their magic. The excitement of such things to children is magical " It's the really loud ones I hate. The pretty colours, whizzes and pops are enough for me. I don't know why they have to be so loud. | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. That's a piss poor argument. this Think people who enjoy fireworks are, deep down, uncomfortable with the knowledge that their enjoyment causes so much distress so they resort to deflecting and apportioning blame elsewhere. The sad part is that most pet owners wouldn't mind if it were just one night. But it isn't. It goes on night after night after night... Doubtless we will be given more to endure tonight - though why fans haven't had their fill by now, I don't know. You've seen one firework display, you've seen them all, in my opinion. Sad that so many firework fans can't be content with on one night at an organised displays. Why is that? Do they like knowing they are causing animals lots of stress - not to mention how many kids end up injured, maimed and even killed by the damned things? Mystery to me Many kids nd adults and beloved pets get maimed and/or killed by cars....will you be walking everywhere from now on or do you like knowing how much anguish and hurt you could cause behind the wheel? Such a ridiculous statement to make. Where I can walk I will walk. When I have to drive - eg for work - I will drive. Ideally, yes, I would never have to drive. But for obvious reasons we all have to Now, tell me, why DO you have to let off fireworks? And why night after night ? And why can't you be happy to watch them for one night, safely, at an organised event? Please tell me. I have told you why I need to drive Why can't people be trusted to be sensible about it. Alcohol kills and murders more people than fireworks ever do. Why do you drink? Can't you just have fun without the need for alcohol? I notice you have no reason that you can cite to defend the position that one night and organised events are sufficient. You seem to want to bring everything down to reductio ad absurdum I personally don't have a problem with more than one night. It's what I feel. I understand that this is not a shared opinion but that's the beauty of debate. Not everyone with agree but what a boring world we would live in if we did. I appreciate pet owners have their issues with it and that's fine. But for many people they enjoy it and even home displays bring their magic. The excitement of such things to children is magical It's the really loud ones I hate. The pretty colours, whizzes and pops are enough for me. I don't know why they have to be so loud. " Ultimately what you like is of no consideration to those who like them. That seems to be the argument of the posters pro fireworks. Tough shit, basically! Sooooo selfish. Makes my blood boil! | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. That's a piss poor argument. this Think people who enjoy fireworks are, deep down, uncomfortable with the knowledge that their enjoyment causes so much distress so they resort to deflecting and apportioning blame elsewhere. The sad part is that most pet owners wouldn't mind if it were just one night. But it isn't. It goes on night after night after night... Doubtless we will be given more to endure tonight - though why fans haven't had their fill by now, I don't know. You've seen one firework display, you've seen them all, in my opinion. Sad that so many firework fans can't be content with on one night at an organised displays. Why is that? Do they like knowing they are causing animals lots of stress - not to mention how many kids end up injured, maimed and even killed by the damned things? Mystery to me Many kids nd adults and beloved pets get maimed and/or killed by cars....will you be walking everywhere from now on or do you like knowing how much anguish and hurt you could cause behind the wheel? Such a ridiculous statement to make. Where I can walk I will walk. When I have to drive - eg for work - I will drive. Ideally, yes, I would never have to drive. But for obvious reasons we all have to Now, tell me, why DO you have to let off fireworks? And why night after night ? And why can't you be happy to watch them for one night, safely, at an organised event? Please tell me. I have told you why I need to drive Why can't people be trusted to be sensible about it. Alcohol kills and murders more people than fireworks ever do. Why do you drink? Can't you just have fun without the need for alcohol? I notice you have no reason that you can cite to defend the position that one night and organised events are sufficient. You seem to want to bring everything down to reductio ad absurdum I personally don't have a problem with more than one night. It's what I feel. I understand that this is not a shared opinion but that's the beauty of debate. Not everyone with agree but what a boring world we would live in if we did. I appreciate pet owners have their issues with it and that's fine. But for many people they enjoy it and even home displays bring their magic. The excitement of such things to children is magical It's the really loud ones I hate. The pretty colours, whizzes and pops are enough for me. I don't know why they have to be so loud. " I saw some awesome smiley face ones yesterday. The big booming banging ones are slightly unnecessary I do agree unless there is a reason why they have to be so loud | |||
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"Pets being nervous or otherwise is not the fault of the owner. As I've said above, one of my cats doesn't give a shit, the other is terrified. They are exactly the same age, brother and sister from the same rescue centre and have been with me for the same length of time. Their nervousness or otherwise clearly has fuck all to do with me. And yeah I like fireworks too. But while we live in a society where it's ok for the dregs of humanity to pop out 12 kids and not pay any attention to where they are, which apparently is setting off fireworks at 3am and throwing them at people from motorway bridges, then I vote ban sale to the public and keep them for organised displays. Yeah they're nice, but people are fucking idiots." the minority are idiots and they should be suitably punished. I don't think anyone would argue with that | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. That's a piss poor argument. this Think people who enjoy fireworks are, deep down, uncomfortable with the knowledge that their enjoyment causes so much distress so they resort to deflecting and apportioning blame elsewhere. The sad part is that most pet owners wouldn't mind if it were just one night. But it isn't. It goes on night after night after night... Doubtless we will be given more to endure tonight - though why fans haven't had their fill by now, I don't know. You've seen one firework display, you've seen them all, in my opinion. Sad that so many firework fans can't be content with on one night at an organised displays. Why is that? Do they like knowing they are causing animals lots of stress - not to mention how many kids end up injured, maimed and even killed by the damned things? Mystery to me Many kids nd adults and beloved pets get maimed and/or killed by cars....will you be walking everywhere from now on or do you like knowing how much anguish and hurt you could cause behind the wheel? Such a ridiculous statement to make. Where I can walk I will walk. When I have to drive - eg for work - I will drive. Ideally, yes, I would never have to drive. But for obvious reasons we all have to Now, tell me, why DO you have to let off fireworks? And why night after night ? And why can't you be happy to watch them for one night, safely, at an organised event? Please tell me. I have told you why I need to drive Why can't people be trusted to be sensible about it. Alcohol kills and murders more people than fireworks ever do. Why do you drink? Can't you just have fun without the need for alcohol? I notice you have no reason that you can cite to defend the position that one night and organised events are sufficient. You seem to want to bring everything down to reductio ad absurdum I personally don't have a problem with more than one night. It's what I feel. I understand that this is not a shared opinion but that's the beauty of debate. Not everyone with agree but what a boring world we would live in if we did. I appreciate pet owners have their issues with it and that's fine. But for many people they enjoy it and even home displays bring their magic. The excitement of such things to children is magical It's the really loud ones I hate. The pretty colours, whizzes and pops are enough for me. I don't know why they have to be so loud. I saw some awesome smiley face ones yesterday. The big booming banging ones are slightly unnecessary I do agree unless there is a reason why they have to be so loud" We have them because we are keeping up a tradition. Kids love them,we love the parties, atmosphere and the fireworks. The majority rules on this subject at the moment. | |||
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"Pets being nervous or otherwise is not the fault of the owner. As I've said above, one of my cats doesn't give a shit, the other is terrified. They are exactly the same age, brother and sister from the same rescue centre and have been with me for the same length of time. Their nervousness or otherwise clearly has fuck all to do with me. And yeah I like fireworks too. But while we live in a society where it's ok for the dregs of humanity to pop out 12 kids and not pay any attention to where they are, which apparently is setting off fireworks at 3am and throwing them at people from motorway bridges, then I vote ban sale to the public and keep them for organised displays. Yeah they're nice, but people are fucking idiots. the minority are idiots and they should be suitably punished. I don't think anyone would argue with that " The minority is growing year by year so it would be easier to stop the problem in the first place. I'd like sterilisation as the solution, but that's probably a bit too extreme for the country so I'm going for banning fireworks except for organised public displays. As an aside, if people's and their children's enjoyment of life is really going to be bereft and diminished by not being able to have fireworks at home, they have bigger things to worry about quite frankly. | |||
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"People who smoke around others causes distress. Can't see that being limited to one day a year at an organised event. Animals suffer from secondary smoking too. You have to accept that are major curbs on smoking. Much more than fireworks. Surely???? Only curbed in public indoor areas and some places children frequent. People aren't so bothered in there own homes or in the street. There are plenty of people who don't give a monkeys what effect their behaviour has on others,or their own animals. " Well, if they enjoy it, who cares? Isn't that the argument being used? Indeed, we should probably allow smoking back in the workplace. After all, if someone wants to why should the feelings of others matter? See how selfish that attitude is? Ultimately we all have to make concessions in order to get along - but there seem to be no concessions being made by some of the posters above | |||
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"Btw fireworks have been around longer than any of your pets. What does that even mean? Well we've been putting up with fireworks longer that any pet that is currently alive now. So you "buy" that pet with the knowledge that this shit goes on. That's a piss poor argument. this Think people who enjoy fireworks are, deep down, uncomfortable with the knowledge that their enjoyment causes so much distress so they resort to deflecting and apportioning blame elsewhere. The sad part is that most pet owners wouldn't mind if it were just one night. But it isn't. It goes on night after night after night... Doubtless we will be given more to endure tonight - though why fans haven't had their fill by now, I don't know. You've seen one firework display, you've seen them all, in my opinion. Sad that so many firework fans can't be content with on one night at an organised displays. Why is that? Do they like knowing they are causing animals lots of stress - not to mention how many kids end up injured, maimed and even killed by the damned things? Mystery to me Many kids nd adults and beloved pets get maimed and/or killed by cars....will you be walking everywhere from now on or do you like knowing how much anguish and hurt you could cause behind the wheel? Such a ridiculous statement to make. Where I can walk I will walk. When I have to drive - eg for work - I will drive. Ideally, yes, I would never have to drive. But for obvious reasons we all have to Now, tell me, why DO you have to let off fireworks? And why night after night ? And why can't you be happy to watch them for one night, safely, at an organised event? Please tell me. I have told you why I need to drive Why can't people be trusted to be sensible about it. Alcohol kills and murders more people than fireworks ever do. Why do you drink? Can't you just have fun without the need for alcohol? I notice you have no reason that you can cite to defend the position that one night and organised events are sufficient. You seem to want to bring everything down to reductio ad absurdum I personally don't have a problem with more than one night. It's what I feel. I understand that this is not a shared opinion but that's the beauty of debate. Not everyone with agree but what a boring world we would live in if we did. I appreciate pet owners have their issues with it and that's fine. But for many people they enjoy it and even home displays bring their magic. The excitement of such things to children is magical It's the really loud ones I hate. The pretty colours, whizzes and pops are enough for me. I don't know why they have to be so loud. I saw some awesome smiley face ones yesterday. The big booming banging ones are slightly unnecessary I do agree unless there is a reason why they have to be so loud We have them because we are keeping up a tradition. Kids love them,we love the parties, atmosphere and the fireworks. The majority rules on this subject at the moment." I was referring to the big bassy booming ones that sounds like a mortar going off. Still got have some banging | |||
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"so its selfish of me to like fireworks yet not selfish of people to want fireworks banned? " Where is anyone saying they want them banned? All I ask for - as has been mentioned above - is that they are restricted to Bonfire night, preferably kept to public displays (for safety's sake). That is not being selfish, is it? It is making a concession to those who enjoy them Where's the quid pro quo?? | |||
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"so its selfish of me to like fireworks yet not selfish of people to want fireworks banned? Where is anyone saying they want them banned? All I ask for - as has been mentioned above - is that they are restricted to Bonfire night, preferably kept to public displays (for safety's sake). That is not being selfish, is it? It is making a concession to those who enjoy them Where's the quid pro quo??" likewise where have i stated that i agree with buying them in supermarkets? i go to organised displays | |||
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"so its selfish of me to like fireworks yet not selfish of people to want fireworks banned? Where is anyone saying they want them banned? All I ask for - as has been mentioned above - is that they are restricted to Bonfire night, preferably kept to public displays (for safety's sake). That is not being selfish, is it? It is making a concession to those who enjoy them Where's the quid pro quo?? likewise where have i stated that i agree with buying them in supermarkets? i go to organised displays" So you would agree organised events on 5th November is sufficient? Some posters, above, have been reluctant to agree to that | |||
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"Fucking hate them. Should ban them and only have public displays. Have the bastard noise everyday up till new year now. " | |||
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"so its selfish of me to like fireworks yet not selfish of people to want fireworks banned? Where is anyone saying they want them banned? All I ask for - as has been mentioned above - is that they are restricted to Bonfire night, preferably kept to public displays (for safety's sake). That is not being selfish, is it? It is making a concession to those who enjoy them Where's the quid pro quo?? likewise where have i stated that i agree with buying them in supermarkets? i go to organised displays" What's the actual problem then? I'm confused. | |||
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"Sick of bloomin pet owners ranting and raving about fireworks,, GET OVER IT.. you know it happens and you know your beloved pets might not like them.. Turn up your TV's.. play louder music,, in the mean time im going to enjoy the fireworks Thank You " I set off my first big rocket firework when I was approx 11 years old It was in the front room of my parents house at 7am the day after fireworks night! There was smoke and bright green explosions, obviously a very loud bang!!! You think fireworks are loud, there even louder at 7am inside your house! Certainly woke my mum and dad up! Set fire to the carpet, had a large hole in the middle of the front room floor for about 5 years until my mum could afford to fix it! YEP! I got a good beating for that one! Lol | |||
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