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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Tomorrow it's the 2015 Million Mask March - an Anonymous organised anti-austerity march in London.

It's all going to end in tears, isn't it?

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"Tomorrow it's the 2015 Million Mask March - an Anonymous organised anti-austerity march in London.

It's all going to end in tears, isn't it?

for the institutions ...hopefully

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"Tomorrow it's the 2015 Million Mask March - an Anonymous organised anti-austerity march in London.

It's all going to end in tears, isn't it?

I can't afford to go

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Tomorrow it's the 2015 Million Mask March - an Anonymous organised anti-austerity march in London.

It's all going to end in tears, isn't it?

for the institutions ...hopefully

Although I expect innocent independent sole traders will be also ransacked and looted too if history is anything to go by

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Tomorrow it's the 2015 Million Mask March - an Anonymous organised anti-austerity march in London.

It's all going to end in tears, isn't it?

I can't afford to go

I see what you did there

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

hope it goes peacefully as there are a lot of people being hit hard by the cuts and they deserve to be heard, but i can see the usual small minority of dick wits kicking off and that's how it will be remembe_ed..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"hope it goes peacefully as there are a lot of people being hit hard by the cuts and they deserve to be heard, but i can see the usual small minority of dick wits kicking off and that's how it will be remembe_ed.."

And the government friendly media will spin it this way anyway, even if any disturbances are small and contained

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Media attention will probably be taken away from the majority peaceful protesters by a minority of fuckwit arseholes who ramraid Fortnum and Mason or shit on a war memorial or something. You can p_edict how it's going to go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the government friendly media will spin it this way anyway, even if any disturbances are small and contained "

Well that's the fault of the small minority of dickheads giving them the ammunition to be able to do that.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

And the government friendly media will spin it this way anyway, even if any disturbances are small and contained "

yes most likely..

btw, welcome back Bussy..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good in theory, pointless in practice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be nice if the protesters took a look at the quiet dignity and pride exercised by those who took part in the protest last week for the release of that Marine in prison.

Let's hope so.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Tomorrow it's the 2015 Million Mask March - an Anonymous organised anti-austerity march in London.

It's all going to end in tears, isn't it?

Anonymous you say, but pricks like Russel Brand can't help lifting their masks when a camera is pointed at them. Hope he keeps his ego in check and keeps his mask on tomorrow it's not the Russel Brand march.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

We need Putin

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"We need Putin"

dont take this the wrong way but are you off your fucking trolly..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We need Putin"

I would prefer a lovely peaceful protest

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"We need Putin

dont take this the wrong way but are you off your fucking trolly..?"

Worry not, Jonaron is a highly evolved troll

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Tomorrow it's the 2015 Million Mask March - an Anonymous organised anti-austerity march in London.

It's all going to end in tears, isn't it?

This one, on the other hand, is less highly evolved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it kicked off

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

It certainly did, it was lovely to see complete morons and idiots pissed out of their heads and puking around the centre of London. Not just another night in London - it is a shame they don't have the balls to actually stand up so people can see who they are and then they come up with a cogent argument and solution! Complete thuggery and not even pretence at solving anything - they have totally pissed me off!!!

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

& yes I was there! But not in a stupid mask...

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Sadly any peaceful March will have some trouble makers in there, ready to have a go at the police when they get the chance. Then as many have said the March will be remembe_ed for the violence, as opposed to the March itself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tut tut osborne...austerity my ass,as long as it doesnt affect his donaters and rich list...but we have nobidy to blame but ourselves ,we always get a chance to vote these guys out but dont...we vote the same cocks in each year,do when your iut there marching ,shouting the odds ....think why!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tut tut osborne...austerity my ass,as long as it doesnt affect his donaters and rich list...but we have nobidy to blame but ourselves ,we always get a chance to vote these guys out but dont...we vote the same cocks in each year,do when your iut there marching ,shouting the odds ....think why!!!!"

Because idiots don't vote but then complain when they don't get represented.

Pensioners vote.

Pensioners get really well treated by all governments because of this.

Young people typically do not vote especially the 18-25 bracket so they get fucked over by nearly every government because we'll it makes no difference if they do, not like they were going to vote for them anyway.

This is why groups of floating voters like minority groups get such disproportionately strong representation because they will take their votes to any party that does as they ask so they all pander to them.

People who always vote labour because "thatcher" or some other shit that is no longer relevant for instance the tories won't treat them well because they'll never vote tory and labour won't treat them well because they're gonna vote labour anyway.

But then again most people from their opinions based on headlines alone and never check sources so it's probably a good thing they don't vote

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No this goverment id fucking everyone over....spsrt from(yes pensioners).... the rich list and the massive companies whom cant pay there taxes but i imagine make massive donations ...nurses,police,services,middle,lower....all fucked over by osborne...austerity=your dumb eniugh to vote for us,now give us your hard earned money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No this goverment id fucking everyone over....spsrt from(yes pensioners).... the rich list and the massive companies whom cant pay there taxes but i imagine make massive donations ...nurses,police,services,middle,lower....all fucked over by osborne...austerity=your dumb eniugh to vote for us,now give us your hard earned money."

And my point is proved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lies and broken promises lie scatte_ed on the stones

Damien’s tears rolls down his face for the homeless and alone

He looks around his city and can’t believe his eyes

At all the devastation caused by politicians lies

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ah yes. It ended in tears. Call me psychic Dan, I mean that was a really wild left field p_ediction wasn't it? Who'd have thought it.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

I thought it was a bit of a damp squib, with most arrests for 'not going home after 9pm'! Bearing in mind how much the press like to egg the protesters on so they can get some good copy, it looks like most didn't rise to the bait.

Shame Russel Brand didn't turn up, I'd have liked to see him get egged, but I guess he doesn't have a book/film out this year

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the government friendly media will spin it this way anyway, even if any disturbances are small and contained

Well that's the fault of the small minority of dickheads giving them the ammunition to be able to do that."

to both of your observations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We vote the same cocks in each year?" Really, I thought elections were held at a minimum of 4 years and a maximum of 5?

If my memory serves me, and I'm prepa_ed to be corrected, our current government is Conservative, the last one was a coalition and before that we had successive labour governments.

The facts don't really bare out your rhetoric unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We vote the same cocks in each year?" Really, I thought elections were held at a minimum of 4 years and a maximum of 5?

If my memory serves me, and I'm prepa_ed to be corrected, our current government is Conservative, the last one was a coalition and before that we had successive labour governments.

The facts don't really bare out your rhetoric unfortunately. "

Shhhh stop denying him his right to be an angsty teenager

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't nurses just been offe_ed an 11% pay rise? Long overdue and well deserved, but 11 points above inflation and way ahead of everyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We vote the same cocks in each year?" Really, I thought elections were held at a minimum of 4 years and a maximum of 5?

If my memory serves me, and I'm prepa_ed to be corrected, our current government is Conservative, the last one was a coalition and before that we had successive labour governments.

The facts don't really bare out your rhetoric unfortunately.

Shhhh stop denying him his right to be an angsty teenager "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't nurses just been offe_ed an 11% pay rise? Long overdue and well deserved, but 11 points above inflation and way ahead of everyone else.

I belive that's only certain junior doctors.

But given they're change ginger their rewards set up so they don't get extra for unsociable hours (for instance in my work they'd get between 22-33% extra on top of their basic for the hours they work) it's not a great offer

Its kinda like me telling you you have to work what would normally be an overtime shift for normal pay

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Its kinda like me telling you you have to work what would normally be an overtime shift for normal pay"

Isn't it more like "here's the average overtime you would have made as an increase to your salary, in exchange please work when we need you, not when it suits you"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't nurses just been offe_ed an 11% pay rise? Long overdue and well deserved, but 11 points above inflation and way ahead of everyone else.

I belive that's only certain junior doctors.

Its kinda like me telling you you have to work what would normally be an overtime shift for normal pay"

It's not a pay rise by any stretch of the imagination, it's a degree of mitigation against some pretty whopping pay cuts - and that 11% is already a _eduction from 15%-19% suggested earlier in the process. The "junior" doctors terminology isn't helping this debate, because that makes you think of newly qualified 23 year olds who can't find a vein, but it covers all doctors up to consultant level. What's being proposed is pretty shit, to be fair - I never usually condone strike action but this is one where I think they'll be justified.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its kinda like me telling you you have to work what would normally be an overtime shift for normal pay

Isn't it more like "here's the average overtime you would have made as an increase to your salary, in exchange please work when we need you, not when it suits you"?

Not at all.

Unsociable hours or overtime is Way more than an 11% level.

Because it's not "when we need you" it's now including nights and weekends.

I get 30% extra for working weekday nights I'd be pissed if they said actually were going to slash that to 11% and make you work random days at the weekend too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet the capitalist factory owner who makes the masks is rubbing his hands in glee!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't nurses just been offe_ed an 11% pay rise? Long overdue and well deserved, but 11 points above inflation and way ahead of everyone else.

I belive that's only certain junior doctors.

Its kinda like me telling you you have to work what would normally be an overtime shift for normal pay

Indeed it would be best if the government lifted the silly limits they place on spaces for training doctors (universities have to turn away better qualified British students and take forgiven students when they hit the cap)

Problem is the staffing increases needed are due to training requirements basically a minimum of a decade away from being done assuming you went into full force this year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't nurses just been offe_ed an 11% pay rise? Long overdue and well deserved, but 11 points above inflation and way ahead of everyone else.

I belive that's only certain junior doctors.

Its kinda like me telling you you have to work what would normally be an overtime shift for normal pay"

I'm happy to be corrected.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't nurses just been offe_ed an 11% pay rise? Long overdue and well deserved, but 11 points above inflation and way ahead of everyone else.

I belive that's only certain junior doctors.

Its kinda like me telling you you have to work what would normally be an overtime shift for normal pay

I'm happy to be corrected.

It's still more complicated than that too lol.

Friends who are doctors have tried to explain how their rotas/overtime/work hours work and it's just indecipherable insanity.

Comming from a strictly planned factory shift perspective I just can't get my head around it.

It seems like they just go into work and basically hope by the time they're about to fall asleep on their feet that someone comes to relieve them

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Its kinda like me telling you you have to work what would normally be an overtime shift for normal pay

Isn't it more like "here's the average overtime you would have made as an increase to your salary, in exchange please work when we need you, not when it suits you"?

Not at all.

Unsociable hours or overtime is Way more than an 11% level.

Because it's not "when we need you" it's now including nights and weekends.

I get 30% extra for working weekday nights I'd be pissed if they said actually were going to slash that to 11% and make you work random days at the weekend too.

Not according to the independent figures I saw. Many will be better off.

One of us has misunderstood the deal if you think it is the same as your overtime rate being _educed from 130% to 111%.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How to complain about money and Austerity (Masqerade as caring people but deep down get overtaken by malevolant evil scum who believe in anarchy)

Whether i like the eststablishment or not these groups get overtaken and ruined by the thugs and lowlifes of society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its kinda like me telling you you have to work what would normally be an overtime shift for normal pay

Isn't it more like "here's the average overtime you would have made as an increase to your salary, in exchange please work when we need you, not when it suits you"?

Not at all.

Unsociable hours or overtime is Way more than an 11% level.

Because it's not "when we need you" it's now including nights and weekends.

I get 30% extra for working weekday nights I'd be pissed if they said actually were going to slash that to 11% and make you work random days at the weekend too.

Not according to the independent figures I saw. Many will be better off.

One of us has misunderstood the deal if you think it is the same as your overtime rate being _educed from 130% to 111%.

I didn't day overtime I said unsociable hour.

My overtime would be 150%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How to complain about money and Austerity (Masqerade as caring people but deep down get overtaken by malevolant evil scum who believe in anarchy)

Whether i like the eststablishment or not these groups get overtaken and ruined by the thugs and lowlifes of society. "

What I always find funny is people who describe themselves an anarchists are usually the same types who complain about Tony Blair being a war criminal that the war in Iraq was illegal and various other crap about international politics.

When really that's the last place anarchy exists.

If you're strong you do as you please people may say you're breaking rules or laws and that it's illegal but they can't do anything to stop you there is no great over arching order or system every country is truly free to do as they chose.

It's just they must face the consequences of any action they choose.

And the stong survive and prey on the weak.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

My bad, I assumed "weekday nights" would be called overtime. Blimey the public sector like to complicate things with needless distinctions.

Whatever you call it doesn't change my point though

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

Nobody should be allowed to protest masked ...

We have a hard fought for democracy in this country, imperfect though it might be, and therefore you can protest peacefully without fear.

Masjing up is covering up more than just your ugly mug

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd wear my Spidey mask if I was going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We need Putin"

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaahhaahahhahahahahahahahahahhhahhhahahhhha ha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always one smart ass

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By *ackspopCouple
over a year ago

Wymondham

"I bet the capitalist factory owner who makes the masks is rubbing his hands in glee!

They're imported from China.

Gotta love the irony.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We need Putin

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaahhaahahhahahahahahahahahahhhahhhahahhhha ha"

Good old vlad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My bad, I assumed "weekday nights" would be called overtime. Blimey the public sector like to complicate things with needless distinctions.

Whatever you call it doesn't change my point though"

Public? Nah I'm private.

Shift workers love :p

Overtime is anything Iver your contracted hours.

Unsociable is anything where your doing your contracted hours at unusual times.

Double days (morning and afternoon alternating) 22%

Nights 30%

Days (9 to 5) flat basic

6 day shift (Sunday Monday Tuesday, one week then , Wednesday Thursday Friday the next with 8 week alternates of 8 days off and 6 days straight but 12 hour shifts) 33%

Week day overtime 133%

Weekend overtime 150%

But NHS seems to work on the principal of "oh god there's no one else please dont go home and stay longer"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately for the genuine proponents of free speech, where anonymity shouldn't be an issue. For every genuine person who understands the issues and the influence, unified public opinion can have, there is a band wagon jumper and a plain and simple trouble making miscreant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nobody should be allowed to protest masked ...

We have a hard fought for democracy in this country, imperfect though it might be, and therefore you can protest peacefully without fear.

Masjing up is covering up more than just your ugly mug"

So why do the police cover their I'd numbers in these protests?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't recognise people who hide behind masks...

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

"Nobody should be allowed to protest masked ...

We have a hard fought for democracy in this country, imperfect though it might be, and therefore you can protest peacefully without fear.

Masjing up is covering up more than just your ugly mug

So why do the police cover their I'd numbers in these protests?"

Fair question, it could be all sorts of reasons, legit or otherwise. Be interested if anyone actually KNOWS the answer.

Meanwhile, I'd not have a problem unmasking protestors with a water cannon ... In the name of moderation, of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nobody should be allowed to protest masked ...

We have a hard fought for democracy in this country, imperfect though it might be, and therefore you can protest peacefully without fear.

Masjing up is covering up more than just your ugly mug

So why do the police cover their I'd numbers in these protests?

Fair question, it could be all sorts of reasons, legit or otherwise. Be interested if anyone actually KNOWS the answer.

Meanwhile, I'd not have a problem unmasking protestors with a water cannon ... In the name of moderation, of course.

Looking at the pics last night I can see numbers and name badges. I don't think masks are an issue of people behave. Shame some numpties have hijacked the message and now it's all about them and their behaviour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fuckwits as everyone keeps calling them....

There the ones that actually change things... Poll tax riots half of London trashed... Thatcher gone!

Million people march peacefully through London against an Iraq war... Tony Blair goes in anyway.

Nobody gets anywhere with peaceful protests... Mandela learnt that

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over a year ago

"The fuckwits as everyone keeps calling them....

There the ones that actually change things... Poll tax riots half of London trashed... Thatcher gone!

Million people march peacefully through London against an Iraq war... Tony Blair goes in anyway.

Nobody gets anywhere with peaceful protests... Mandela learnt that"

You genuinly believe the poll tax riots is what ended Margaret Thatchers leadership?

And you genuinly believe violent protest is the only way to affect change?

I think the peaceful protest by Mandela had a huge impact. It galvanised most of the world to his cause.

Compare the reaction to his protest and the support it achieved to those of his ex wife...

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over a year ago

"The fuckwits as everyone keeps calling them....

There the ones that actually change things... Poll tax riots half of London trashed... Thatcher gone!

Million people march peacefully through London against an Iraq war... Tony Blair goes in anyway.

Nobody gets anywhere with peaceful protests... Mandela learnt that

You genuinly believe the poll tax riots is what ended Margaret Thatchers leadership?

And you genuinly believe violent protest is the only way to affect change?

I think the peaceful protest by Mandela had a huge impact. It galvanised most of the world to his cause.

Compare the reaction to his protest and the support it achieved to those of his ex wife...

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Two things change things..

Bad or

Loss of profit

Nobody gives a shit about galvanised support... The white south African government certainly didn't!

Neither did the US government in fifties America...

Martin Luther king got nothing but shot... Whereas when they burnt down quite a few city's... Things changed a little faster

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Changed my mind they inju_ed six horses by throwing fireworks at them. Then turned on their own punching a female student in the face when she tried to stop them.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck wits indeed!!!!!!!

(I have a horse bias)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The fuckwits as everyone keeps calling them....

There the ones that actually change things... Poll tax riots half of London trashed... Thatcher gone!

Million people march peacefully through London against an Iraq war... Tony Blair goes in anyway.

Nobody gets anywhere with peaceful protests... Mandela learnt that

You genuinly believe the poll tax riots is what ended Margaret Thatchers leadership?

And you genuinly believe violent protest is the only way to affect change?

I think the peaceful protest by Mandela had a huge impact. It galvanised most of the world to his cause.

Compare the reaction to his protest and the support it achieved to those of his ex wife...

Two things change things..

Bad or

Loss of profit

Nobody gives a shit about galvanised support... The white south African government certainly didn't!

Neither did the US government in fifties America...

Martin Luther king got nothing but shot... Whereas when they burnt down quite a few city's... Things changed a little faster"

So essentially what you're proposing to affect change is riot, shoot people and burn stuff down.

Worrying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm GLAD you all have finally woken the F up to what our goverment has done to us because of "what you voted for"

I came across sea of brollies dancing in the rain

As the colours of the rainbow danced people there were saying

They were sick and ti_ed of charges lies from their TDs

They were shouting and angry too much Austerity.

Now the people are rising in the villages and towns

A million umbrellas march as rain falls to the ground

There’s a sea of determination as they out across the land

They cannot give any more time to make a stand.

So come all you lads and lassies time to march for liberty

Time to take our country back our pride and dignity

Never again will be bound it’s time to break free.

In other words...

I gotta feeling where I used to be numb.

I can feel it now rushing through my blood.

I’m stronger than I ever thought I was,

and now I found another way out of here.

All these words are not enough

Now these words mean so much

I’m gonna break out

I’m gonna break free

Not gonna think twice

You’ll never stop me

Don’t even try

I’ll knock you down

I’m saying hello to a new dream

I’m taking it back what’s left of me

Don’t even try,

You can’t stop me now!

I’m gonna break out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The fuckwits as everyone keeps calling them....

There the ones that actually change things... Poll tax riots half of London trashed... Thatcher gone!

Million people march peacefully through London against an Iraq war... Tony Blair goes in anyway.

Nobody gets anywhere with peaceful protests... Mandela learnt that

You genuinly believe the poll tax riots is what ended Margaret Thatchers leadership?

And you genuinly believe violent protest is the only way to affect change?

I think the peaceful protest by Mandela had a huge impact. It galvanised most of the world to his cause.

Compare the reaction to his protest and the support it achieved to those of his ex wife...

Two things change things..

Bad or

Loss of profit

Nobody gives a shit about galvanised support... The white south African government certainly didn't!

Neither did the US government in fifties America...

Martin Luther king got nothing but shot... Whereas when they burnt down quite a few city's... Things changed a little faster

So essentially what you're proposing to affect change is riot, shoot people and burn stuff down.

Worrying."
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I'm saying that's what gets things done.

Just look at history, it's litte_ed with change through violence.

If humans are nothing,there animals that learn and the lesson taught is that violence gets you somewhere and peaceful marching gets you shot and locked up!

Try telling the cocacola workers who formed a peaceful union for better conditions in Columbia but then all got shot and beaten up by cocacola employed Mafia that peaceful protest works

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Activism is the only thing that is going to change things in this country, and in other countries accross the globe.

What you're saying about Anonymous, Anarchists and Anti-capitalist activists, are the same things that were said about the suffragettes.

The women posting on these threads owe their freedom and rights to militant activism.

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over a year ago

"The fuckwits as everyone keeps calling them....

There the ones that actually change things... Poll tax riots half of London trashed... Thatcher gone!

Million people march peacefully through London against an Iraq war... Tony Blair goes in anyway.

Nobody gets anywhere with peaceful protests... Mandela learnt that

You genuinly believe the poll tax riots is what ended Margaret Thatchers leadership?

And you genuinly believe violent protest is the only way to affect change?

I think the peaceful protest by Mandela had a huge impact. It galvanised most of the world to his cause.

Compare the reaction to his protest and the support it achieved to those of his ex wife...

Two things change things..

Bad or

Loss of profit

Nobody gives a shit about galvanised support... The white south African government certainly didn't!

Neither did the US government in fifties America...

Martin Luther king got nothing but shot... Whereas when they burnt down quite a few city's... Things changed a little faster

So essentially what you're proposing to affect change is riot, shoot people and burn stuff down.

Worrying..

I'm saying that's what gets things done.

Just look at history, it's litte_ed with change through violence.

If humans are nothing,there animals that learn and the lesson taught is that violence gets you somewhere and peaceful marching gets you shot and locked up!

Try telling the cocacola workers who formed a peaceful union for better conditions in Columbia but then all got shot and beaten up by cocacola employed Mafia that peaceful protest works

I'm not sure how many of the peaceful marchers in this protest were shot and locked up.

Do you have the numbers? A ball park figure will do......

To be fair, I don't actually know, but I'm going to guess at....... none.

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By *indys loverCouple
over a year ago

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I can see a similar vein in this thread to the police looking at internet history thread ,,,,,,, that those who are keen on violent demonstrations are the ones who are jumping up and down about the police checking your internet history ,,,,,,,,,,,,, how bizzare is that

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over a year ago

"Activism is the only thing that is going to change things in this country, and in other countries accross the globe.

What you're saying about Anonymous, Anarchists and Anti-capitalist activists, are the same things that were said about the suffragettes.

The women posting on these threads owe their freedom and rights to militant activism.

Activism yes.

Militant activism understandable.

Violent activism, no thanks.

I feel I deserve a pay rise, immediately.

My boss said no, we'll review it in twelve months time.

I didn't like that answer so I burnt the office down and shot him.

None of the above are true. But they could be........

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over a year ago

"I can see a similar vein in this thread to the police looking at internet history thread ,,,,,,, that those who are keen on violent demonstrations are the ones who are jumping up and down about the police checking your internet history ,,,,,,,,,,,,, how bizzare is that

Perhaps it's because they using the Internet to plan a violent revolution and are worried that they'll be found out.

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over a year ago

Perhaps it's because they using the Internet to plan a violent revolution and are worried that they'll be found out.

Actually, its being organised through, postcards, sae's, cards in newsagents windows and geocaching. Shhhh. It's a secret.

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over a year ago

"The fuckwits as everyone keeps calling them....

There the ones that actually change things... Poll tax riots half of London trashed... Thatcher gone!

Million people march peacefully through London against an Iraq war... Tony Blair goes in anyway.

Nobody gets anywhere with peaceful protests... Mandela learnt that

You genuinly believe the poll tax riots is what ended Margaret Thatchers leadership?

And you genuinly believe violent protest is the only way to affect change?

I think the peaceful protest by Mandela had a huge impact. It galvanised most of the world to his cause.

Compare the reaction to his protest and the support it achieved to those of his ex wife...

Two things change things..

Bad or

Loss of profit

Nobody gives a shit about galvanised support... The white south African government certainly didn't!

Neither did the US government in fifties America...

Martin Luther king got nothing but shot... Whereas when they burnt down quite a few city's... Things changed a little faster

So essentially what you're proposing to affect change is riot, shoot people and burn stuff down.

Worrying..

I'm saying that's what gets things done.

Just look at history, it's litte_ed with change through violence.

If humans are nothing,there animals that learn and the lesson taught is that violence gets you somewhere and peaceful marching gets you shot and locked up!

Try telling the cocacola workers who formed a peaceful union for better conditions in Columbia but then all got shot and beaten up by cocacola employed Mafia that peaceful protest works

I'm not sure how many of the peaceful marchers in this protest were shot and locked up.

Do you have the numbers? A ball park figure will do......

To be fair, I don't actually know, but I'm going to guess at....... none."
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Lol... I'll nip off and see if there's any peer reviewed articles

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By *agicfingerslovelyMan
over a year ago

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"Nobody should be allowed to protest masked ...

We have a hard fought for democracy in this country, imperfect though it might be, and therefore you can protest peacefully without fear.

Masjing up is covering up more than just your ugly mug"

Will you protesting unmasked when they use your own computer to take a picture of you after going through your internet history - awaiting hackers to hack into the your considerable data and raiding your bank account, identity etc

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"Activism is the only thing that is going to change things in this country, and in other countries accross the globe.

What you're saying about Anonymous, Anarchists and Anti-capitalist activists, are the same things that were said about the suffragettes.

The women posting on these threads owe their freedom and rights to militant activism.

Activism yes.

Militant activism understandable.

Violent activism, no thanks.

I feel I deserve a pay rise, immediately.

My boss said no, we'll review it in twelve months time.

I didn't like that answer so I burnt the office down and shot him.

None of the above are true. But they could be........"
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Your extreme example is perfectly valid in a bizarre way!

I'll be honest with you... As you like to follow me like a car crash!

I/we never use peaceful protest!

It's an utterly pointless waste of energy!.

What you do is hinder the company financially as much as possible while smearing them with as much negative publicity as possible, this is often helped through violence or at least threats of violence (trust me the companies or the police will use just as much violent reaction) these tactics have been "learnt" through process and work the best!

That's not a statement that I'm pro this way or against..

It's just the way it is!

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over a year ago

"The fuckwits as everyone keeps calling them....

There the ones that actually change things... Poll tax riots half of London trashed... Thatcher gone!

Million people march peacefully through London against an Iraq war... Tony Blair goes in anyway.

Nobody gets anywhere with peaceful protests... Mandela learnt that

You genuinly believe the poll tax riots is what ended Margaret Thatchers leadership?

And you genuinly believe violent protest is the only way to affect change?

I think the peaceful protest by Mandela had a huge impact. It galvanised most of the world to his cause.

Compare the reaction to his protest and the support it achieved to those of his ex wife...

Two things change things..

Bad or

Loss of profit

Nobody gives a shit about galvanised support... The white south African government certainly didn't!

Neither did the US government in fifties America...

Martin Luther king got nothing but shot... Whereas when they burnt down quite a few city's... Things changed a little faster

So essentially what you're proposing to affect change is riot, shoot people and burn stuff down.

Worrying..

I'm saying that's what gets things done.

Just look at history, it's litte_ed with change through violence.

If humans are nothing,there animals that learn and the lesson taught is that violence gets you somewhere and peaceful marching gets you shot and locked up!

Try telling the cocacola workers who formed a peaceful union for better conditions in Columbia but then all got shot and beaten up by cocacola employed Mafia that peaceful protest works

I'm not sure how many of the peaceful marchers in this protest were shot and locked up.

Do you have the numbers? A ball park figure will do......

To be fair, I don't actually know, but I'm going to guess at....... none..

Lol... I'll nip off and see if there's any peer reviewed articles

Top man. Kudos.

I see what you did there.

Well worth a lol.

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over a year ago

This made me chuckle;

People across Britain have voiced their support for the dominant economic system, it has been confirmed.

After protesters gathe_ed outside Parliament last night to point out that the world is unfair, millions decided they would rather be poor than be those people.

Office drone Nikki Hollis said: “I’m underpaid, under-represented in parliament, sexually objectified in the media and igno_ed at home, but at least I’m not some bellend in a £40 Guy Fawkes mask.

“I’m sure this probably makes me a quisling running dog but the main thing is, I’m not an arse.”

March organisers complained about the lack of media coverage in a statement reprinted in The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Independent and read out on the BBC, Channel 4 and The Shopping Channel.

They insisted that setting off fireworks and burning police cars would make everyone realise that Starbucks is horrid.

Hollis added: “I know that big businesses are probably evil but on the other hand, Starbucks has never blown a whistle two inches from my fucking ear when I’m trying to get the bus.”

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over a year ago

They Take from one give to another [oversea's]

Our goal now is to be unified

Take my hand be my brother, be my sister.

For a very, VERY LONG time Unity took a backseat sliding us further into regression.

Society blind by color

Why hold down one to raise another?

Discrimination now on both sides

Seeds of hate blossom further

The world is heading for mutiny

When all we want is unity....

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

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"This made me chuckle;

People across Britain have voiced their support for the dominant economic system, it has been confirmed.

After protesters gathe_ed outside Parliament last night to point out that the world is unfair, millions decided they would rather be poor than be those people.

“I’m sure this probably makes me a quisling running dog but the main thing is, I’m not an arse.”

March organisers complained about the lack of media coverage in a statement reprinted in The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Independent and read out on the BBC, Channel 4 and The Shopping Channel.

They insisted that setting off fireworks and burning police cars would make everyone realise that Starbucks is horrid.

Hollis added: “I know that big businesses are probably evil but on the other hand, Starbucks has never blown a whistle two inches from my fucking ear when I’m trying to get the bus.”

& us!

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When all this is over and we have our new system of government the police who have assaulted people at the demonstrations need to be brought before the courts and put in prison for assault and thrown out of the the force and their salaries and pensions given to their victims

For people who defend police men and behavior these stand over men are culpable in Extortion which is a crime they are the Enda's storm troopers and bully boys. Irish people cannot lose this one otherwise we are not thing but slaves to their greed. If the police had been doing their jobs half the politicians and their mates would be behind bars for corruption but they are corrupted by a corrupt system its rotten as is the courts

By the very nature Police men are attracted to that lifestyle because they can practice their suppression like prison officers they like control and treating people like they are some sort of low life. But when you take away the uniform what have you got?

All I see is a suppressive person a thug in a uniform.

Generally I have found them to be quite rude and arrogant bit like the old parish priest another suppressive type who liked to tell others how to live their lives while carrying on corruption and abuse behind closed doors.

Did you not ever wonder how all the pedophiles got away with it over the years if it was not with the help of police men and politicians

I mean why would you do a coppers job it its not exactly a happy sort of business is it. So if you Take away the Uniform and what have you got Cowards and bullies that's what.

Personally I do not like people like that because they do not like themselves. I generally feel quite ill when I have been in their company. I do not recognize uniforms never had and never will.

If you loved yourself you you would not do it, and so they inflict their pain on others they are pain bodies on their earthly plane and I detest bullies and cowards because I was the victim of it.

By The way if any coppers are reading this if you have done noting wrong you have nothing to worry about and the rest of you should go and seek help you are sick spiritually and mentally

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"This made me chuckle;

People across Britain have voiced their support for the dominant economic system, it has been confirmed.

After protesters gathe_ed outside Parliament last night to point out that the world is unfair, millions decided they would rather be poor than be those people.

“I’m sure this probably makes me a quisling running dog but the main thing is, I’m not an arse.”

March organisers complained about the lack of media coverage in a statement reprinted in The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Independent and read out on the BBC, Channel 4 and The Shopping Channel.

They insisted that setting off fireworks and burning police cars would make everyone realise that Starbucks is horrid.

Hollis added: “I know that big businesses are probably evil but on the other hand, Starbucks has never blown a whistle two inches from my fucking ear when I’m trying to get the bus.”

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over a year ago

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I agree that not every one who puts a uniform on puts it on for the right reason 'Lovegun' but i will tell you something for nothing I would not want to live in a country in which you ruled ,,,,, some of what you said makes me feel quite sick !!!!!!

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"I agree that not every one who puts a uniform on puts it on for the right reason 'Lovegun' but i will tell you something for nothing I would not want to live in a country in which you ruled ,,,,, some of what you said makes me feel quite sick !!!!!! "

Agreed...

One of those passages which makes me think I hope the person writing doesn't have access to weapons.

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" When all this is over and we have our new system of government the police who have assaulted people at the demonstrations need to be brought before the courts and put in prison for assault and thrown out of the the force and their salaries and pensions given to their victims

All I see is a suppressive person a thug in a uniform.

Did you not ever wonder how all the pedophiles got away with it over the years if it was not with the help of police men and politicians

I mean why would you do a coppers job it its not exactly a happy sort of business is it. So if you Take away the Uniform and what have you got Cowards and bullies that's what.

Personally I do not like people like that because they do not like themselves. I generally feel quite ill when I have been in their company. I do not recognize uniforms never had and never will.

If you loved yourself you you would not do it, and so they inflict their pain on others they are pain bodies on their earthly plane and I detest bullies and cowards because I was the victim of it.

By The way if any coppers are reading this if you have done noting wrong you have nothing to worry about and the rest of you should go and seek help you are sick spiritually and mentally"

Without doubt that's the biggest load of bollocks I've read in a long time.

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over a year ago

There was nothing in his manifesto about the protestors handing over their salary and pension for attacking coppers and throwing fireworks at Police horses.

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over a year ago

Agreed...

One of those passages which makes me think I hope the person writing doesn't have access to weapons."

Probably a pretend light sabre and a web cam.

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over a year ago

Agreed...

One of those passages which makes me think I hope the person writing doesn't have access to weapons."

Don't worry, nursey will be along with his meds shortly.

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All I see is a suppressive person a thug in a uniform.

Did you not ever wonder how all the pedophiles got away with it over the years if it was not with the help of police men and politicians

I mean why would you do a coppers job it its not exactly a happy sort of business is it. So if you Take away the Uniform and what have you got Cowards and bullies that's what.

Personally I do not like people like that because they do not like themselves. I generally feel quite ill when I have been in their company. I do not recognize uniforms never had and never will.

If you loved yourself you you would not do it, and so they inflict their pain on others they are pain bodies on their earthly plane and I detest bullies and cowards because I was the victim of it.

By The way if any coppers are reading this if you have done noting wrong you have nothing to worry about and the rest of you should go and seek help you are sick spiritually and mentally"
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Power does what it does, although I agree with every word you said and history proves you right in many ways, the system won't change, humans aren't going to evolve in 5 years let alone 2000 years.

We've got to mitigate against our own failings and that means we have to stop putting power into individuals hands!.

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over a year ago

Just decided to google news on the million mask march and there are 0 results from the daily mail.

Success.

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All I see is a suppressive person a thug in a uniform.

Did you not ever wonder how all the pedophiles got away with it over the years if it was not with the help of police men and politicians

I mean why would you do a coppers job it its not exactly a happy sort of business is it. So if you Take away the Uniform and what have you got Cowards and bullies that's what.

Personally I do not like people like that because they do not like themselves. I generally feel quite ill when I have been in their company. I do not recognize uniforms never had and never will.

If you loved yourself you you would not do it, and so they inflict their pain on others they are pain bodies on their earthly plane and I detest bullies and cowards because I was the victim of it.

By The way if any coppers are reading this if you have done noting wrong you have nothing to worry about and the rest of you should go and seek help you are sick spiritually and mentally.

Power does what it does, although I agree with every word you said and history proves you right in many ways, the system won't change, humans aren't going to evolve in 5 years let alone 2000 years.

We've got to mitigate against our own failings and that means we have to stop putting power into individuals hands!."

The UK is a democracy, ruled by a party, voted for by the people. The power as you put it, isn't in the hands of an individual.

I think you're confusing democracy with dictatorship.

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All I see is a suppressive person a thug in a uniform.

Did you not ever wonder how all the pedophiles got away with it over the years if it was not with the help of police men and politicians

I mean why would you do a coppers job it its not exactly a happy sort of business is it. So if you Take away the Uniform and what have you got Cowards and bullies that's what.

Personally I do not like people like that because they do not like themselves. I generally feel quite ill when I have been in their company. I do not recognize uniforms never had and never will.

If you loved yourself you you would not do it, and so they inflict their pain on others they are pain bodies on their earthly plane and I detest bullies and cowards because I was the victim of it.

By The way if any coppers are reading this if you have done noting wrong you have nothing to worry about and the rest of you should go and seek help you are sick spiritually and mentally"

I know the type of people you mean. They won't seek help, they think they have done nothing wrong. They don't think like us, they can't even think like us - they just don't have the ability to.

People are there to be controlled, used and abused, according to them.