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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The pm is under pressure to introduce the sugar tax. Do you think it is a good idea and will it help kids to be healthier and everyone else to? I heard it might be 10p extra. What is your thought?

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

My thoughts? The PM is a moron.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My thoughts? The PM is a moron. "

I wanna know if he can spell moron now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck that! My sugar bill would be about £30 a week! I take 8 McDonald's sugars in a latte, and 12 in a BP services one.

And nope, im not diabetic. ...yet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I we should introduce a stupid tax.

Tax all the stupid people!

Deficit problem solved

You're welcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best stock up as it's on special at lidl 39p a kg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Best stock up as it's on special at lidl 39p a kg"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I we should introduce a stupid tax.

Tax all the stupid people!

Deficit problem solved

You're welcome "

I think that should work for arseholes too.

If someone is an arsehole unnecessarily, they put into the arsehole fund....

I'd be in negative equity so far that even the bank crises would seem superfluous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why not just re-introduce rationing and be done with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just think of the things that have added sugar that will go up in price, cereal, McDonald's, baked beans, ready made curry sauces, cakes. A little bit across the board means pay rise for government

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like the idea of making certain things unavailable or less available. I do think sugar causes a lot of physical damage to our bodies, our body is capable of making it's own sugars from carbs, and sugar has no nutritional value.

Don't see why it has to be done by the government or that they should benefit financially from it, on our supposed behalf.

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By *oger ThatMan
over a year ago

essex

Absolutely for the tax.... they should use the extra money made to subsidise healthier foods

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By *oger ThatMan
over a year ago

essex

The individual MP's don't benefit directly from extra tax raised..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No its absolutely stupid.

People will get fat eating pasta and other crap just as easily.

It's not hide it's all printed on the package even in a % of your daily intake so as long as the person can read and add up to 100 there is no excuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the idea of making certain things unavailable or less available. I do think sugar causes a lot of physical damage to our bodies, our body is capable of making it's own sugars from carbs, and sugar has no nutritional value.

Don't see why it has to be done by the government or that they should benefit financially from it, on our supposed behalf."

Err "sugar has no nutritional value" it's what your body uses your body turns every car into sugar.

Fibre has nonnutitional value for instance sugar has lots of nutritional value

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


" so as long as the person can read and add up to 100 there is no excuse.

"

And that right there is the problem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sugar also prevents calcium from bonding to your bones, hence why it's bad for your teeth

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
over a year ago

Stourbridge

Absolutely against it. Why punish me because others have no self control?

I'm diabetic so I limit my sugar intake anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the idea of making certain things unavailable or less available. I do think sugar causes a lot of physical damage to our bodies, our body is capable of making it's own sugars from carbs, and sugar has no nutritional value.

Don't see why it has to be done by the government or that they should benefit financially from it, on our supposed behalf.

Err "sugar has no nutritional value" it's what your body uses your body turns every car into sugar.

Fibre has nonnutitional value for instance sugar has lots of nutritional value "

The sugar they want to tax has no value, your body doesn't need it.

Although they might wanna tax our endocrine system and bodies as well, probably will get to that point when they've run out of things to tax.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sugar also prevents calcium from bonding to your bones, hence why it's bad for your teeth"

That's fructose (so more fruit sugar or 50% of table sugar) and it reduced the ability of the intestine to absorb calcium not from binding in your bones.

And that's not why it's bad for your teeth it's bad for teeth cause it feeds the bacteria that live on them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolutely for the tax.... they should use the extra money made to subsidise healthier foods"

Except they won't. Road tax revenues exceed money spend on improving roads - go figure

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

PLEASE READ.

People got fat from cheap foods made from sugar and corn oil.

The people weren't educated about this back then.

The owners of the production plants are the SAME families as the POLITICIANS.

Politicians were being badgered to find cheap foods and they did.

Sugar goes into most food production because its a bulker and its cheap.

The companies make a FORTUNE by feeding the populace shite.

It's taken time but people are more aware. HOWEVER a lot of people are poor and can't afford to fill stomachs with meat and vegetables.

NOW THE RUB.........

The governments and companies already making money from cheap food production using sugar and oil decide its YOUR fault and put an extra tax on food.

It's not a massive tax.

You'll still buy it.

So now you remain fat and pay TWICE for it.

Governments are in a win win situation.

Ignorant people blame the people.

The people stay fat and pay for the privilege.

The Government and Companies sit back and say ........ 'hey , we tried to help but you just kept on buying and eating.'

IF GOVERMENTS CARED PEOPLE WOULD BE FED FOOD.

THIS SHIT WOULDN'T BE MANUFACTURED.

Some of you are so fucking deep in the Matrix you can't see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

New proposal:

*the lazy tax*

As of 2016 all sofas are to be fitted with pressure plates, this will monitor the time spent sat down doing fuck all. At the end of each month a tax bill will be issued based on the time spent.

This will be complimented by the sugar tax.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the idea of making certain things unavailable or less available. I do think sugar causes a lot of physical damage to our bodies, our body is capable of making it's own sugars from carbs, and sugar has no nutritional value.

Don't see why it has to be done by the government or that they should benefit financially from it, on our supposed behalf.

Err "sugar has no nutritional value" it's what your body uses your body turns every car into sugar.

Fibre has nonnutitional value for instance sugar has lots of nutritional value

The sugar they want to tax has no value, your body doesn't need it.

Although they might wanna tax our endocrine system and bodies as well, probably will get to that point when they've run out of things to tax."

Yes it does have value it's a rapidly absorbed energy source that provides your body with instant carbs not requiring energy to be wasted on digestion and breaking them down.

You consume sugar or starch your body turns it into the same stuff it's just when it uses starch it has to waste some time

Saying it has "no value" because it's already been refined is silly it's like saying natural gas has no value because you could just home process crude oil into methane instead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PLEASE READ.

People got fat from cheap foods made from sugar and corn oil.

The people weren't educated about this back then.

The owners of the production plants are the SAME families as the POLITICIANS.

Politicians were being badgered to find cheap foods and they did.

Sugar goes into most food production because its a bulker and its cheap.

The companies make a FORTUNE by feeding the populace shite.

It's taken time but people are more aware. HOWEVER a lot of people are poor and can't afford to fill stomachs with meat and vegetables.

NOW THE RUB.........

The governments and companies already making money from cheap food production using sugar and oil decide its YOUR fault and put an extra tax on food.

It's not a massive tax.

You'll still buy it.

So now you remain fat and pay TWICE for it.

Governments are in a win win situation.

Ignorant people blame the people.

The people stay fat and pay for the privilege.

The Government and Companies sit back and say ........ 'hey , we tried to help but you just kept on buying and eating.'

IF GOVERMENTS CARED PEOPLE WOULD BE FED FOOD.

THIS SHIT WOULDN'T BE MANUFACTURED.

Some of you are so fucking deep in the Matrix you can't see.

"

Yeah it helps if you don't use American sources

Also bulkier? For the cost you could dump fibre in cause that's practically worthless if you just wanted to increase volume it's because it increases flavour

People got fat from eating too much.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolutely for the tax.... they should use the extra money made to subsidise healthier foods

Except they won't. Road tax revenues exceed money spend on improving roads - go figure"

Would that be because there is no such thing as road tax?

Only emissions tax for green subsidies

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"New proposal:

*the lazy tax*

As of 2016 all sofas are to be fitted with pressure plates, this will monitor the time spent sat down doing fuck all. At the end of each month a tax bill will be issued based on the time spent.

This will be complimented by the sugar tax. "

What if I go out and inadvertently leave my two sick labradors on the sofa

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"PLEASE READ.

People got fat from cheap foods made from sugar and corn oil.

The people weren't educated about this back then.

The owners of the production plants are the SAME families as the POLITICIANS.

Politicians were being badgered to find cheap foods and they did.

Sugar goes into most food production because its a bulker and its cheap.

The companies make a FORTUNE by feeding the populace shite.

It's taken time but people are more aware. HOWEVER a lot of people are poor and can't afford to fill stomachs with meat and vegetables.

NOW THE RUB.........

The governments and companies already making money from cheap food production using sugar and oil decide its YOUR fault and put an extra tax on food.

It's not a massive tax.

You'll still buy it.

So now you remain fat and pay TWICE for it.

Governments are in a win win situation.

Ignorant people blame the people.

The people stay fat and pay for the privilege.

The Government and Companies sit back and say ........ 'hey , we tried to help but you just kept on buying and eating.'

IF GOVERMENTS CARED PEOPLE WOULD BE FED FOOD.

THIS SHIT WOULDN'T BE MANUFACTURED.

Some of you are so fucking deep in the Matrix you can't see.

Yeah it helps if you don't use American sources

Also bulkier? For the cost you could dump fibre in cause that's practically worthless if you just wanted to increase volume it's because it increases flavour

People got fat from eating too much.

"

There's so many flaws in what you are saying.

Eating too many calories isn't being over nourished.

My sources are sound. I don't understand your backhanded comment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

"

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PLEASE READ.

People got fat from cheap foods made from sugar and corn oil.

The people weren't educated about this back then.

The owners of the production plants are the SAME families as the POLITICIANS.

Politicians were being badgered to find cheap foods and they did.

Sugar goes into most food production because its a bulker and its cheap.

The companies make a FORTUNE by feeding the populace shite.

It's taken time but people are more aware. HOWEVER a lot of people are poor and can't afford to fill stomachs with meat and vegetables.

NOW THE RUB.........

The governments and companies already making money from cheap food production using sugar and oil decide its YOUR fault and put an extra tax on food.

It's not a massive tax.

You'll still buy it.

So now you remain fat and pay TWICE for it.

Governments are in a win win situation.

Ignorant people blame the people.

The people stay fat and pay for the privilege.

The Government and Companies sit back and say ........ 'hey , we tried to help but you just kept on buying and eating.'

IF GOVERMENTS CARED PEOPLE WOULD BE FED FOOD.

THIS SHIT WOULDN'T BE MANUFACTURED.

Some of you are so fucking deep in the Matrix you can't see.

Yeah it helps if you don't use American sources

Also bulkier? For the cost you could dump fibre in cause that's practically worthless if you just wanted to increase volume it's because it increases flavour

People got fat from eating too much.

There's so many flaws in what you are saying.

Eating too many calories isn't being over nourished.

My sources are sound. I don't understand your backhanded comment."

Over consuming calories make syou fat. Not eating sugar or cars (or most endurance athletes would be the size of houses the amount they shovel down)

And your sources are American you can tell by the corn reference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the idea of making certain things unavailable or less available. I do think sugar causes a lot of physical damage to our bodies, our body is capable of making it's own sugars from carbs, and sugar has no nutritional value.

Don't see why it has to be done by the government or that they should benefit financially from it, on our supposed behalf.

Err "sugar has no nutritional value" it's what your body uses your body turns every car into sugar.

Fibre has nonnutitional value for instance sugar has lots of nutritional value

The sugar they want to tax has no value, your body doesn't need it.

Although they might wanna tax our endocrine system and bodies as well, probably will get to that point when they've run out of things to tax.

Yes it does have value it's a rapidly absorbed energy source that provides your body with instant carbs not requiring energy to be wasted on digestion and breaking them down.

You consume sugar or starch your body turns it into the same stuff it's just when it uses starch it has to waste some time

Saying it has "no value" because it's already been refined is silly it's like saying natural gas has no value because you could just home process crude oil into methane instead."

There are commas between each of my points making them separate things. Idk if a semi colon should've been in front of them all to make it obvious, my grammar is crap on punctuation.

Your body does not need sugar it can make it's own, also sugar has no nutritional value. Better?

Even diabetics, with proper control over diet and meds, can make their own sugar, but yeah if it was an emergency they would need a fast supply. But usually glucose is used anyway, i different type of sugar.

Probably discussion is moot anyway coz they never taxed takeaways or fatty foods more, apart from the rise in VAT.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now i'm thinking another rise in VAT is coming and this is just to distract from that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the idea of making certain things unavailable or less available. I do think sugar causes a lot of physical damage to our bodies, our body is capable of making it's own sugars from carbs, and sugar has no nutritional value.

Don't see why it has to be done by the government or that they should benefit financially from it, on our supposed behalf.

Err "sugar has no nutritional value" it's what your body uses your body turns every car into sugar.

Fibre has nonnutitional value for instance sugar has lots of nutritional value

The sugar they want to tax has no value, your body doesn't need it.

Although they might wanna tax our endocrine system and bodies as well, probably will get to that point when they've run out of things to tax.

Yes it does have value it's a rapidly absorbed energy source that provides your body with instant carbs not requiring energy to be wasted on digestion and breaking them down.

You consume sugar or starch your body turns it into the same stuff it's just when it uses starch it has to waste some time

Saying it has "no value" because it's already been refined is silly it's like saying natural gas has no value because you could just home process crude oil into methane instead.

There are commas between each of my points making them separate things. Idk if a semi colon should've been in front of them all to make it obvious, my grammar is crap on punctuation.

Your body does not need sugar it can make it's own, also sugar has no nutritional value. Better?

Even diabetics, with proper control over diet and meds, can make their own sugar, but yeah if it was an emergency they would need a fast supply. But usually glucose is used anyway, i different type of sugar.

Probably discussion is moot anyway coz they never taxed takeaways or fatty foods more, apart from

the rise in VAT."

What do you mean by "nutritional value" yes your body can make sugar because glucose is about the only thing you can use to respire under normal conditions.

On a scale sugar provides more useful energy than other carbs per gram.

Sugar also causes insulin spikes which can be very useful for certain situations such as recovery after exercise as insulin is the best transporter you have.

An insuli. spike after exercise combined with readily available protein equals very rapid uptake into the muscles for growth and repair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What do you mean by "nutritional value" yes your body can make sugar because glucose is about the only thing you can use to respire under normal conditions.

On a scale sugar provides more useful energy than other carbs per gram.

Sugar also causes insulin spikes which can be very useful for certain situations such as recovery after exercise as insulin is the best transporter you have.

An insuli. spike after exercise combined with readily available protein equals very rapid uptake into the muscles for growth and repair.

"

Your body doesn't need it, it can make it's own. Might be better to say you don't need sugar in your diet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But usually glucose is used anyway, i different type of sugar."

Just to pick up on this table sugar is sucrose which is one glucose bound to one fructose.

Glucose is what's used by your cells for respiration (iirc it's 38 atp per glucose) fructose had to be converted in the liver to glucose first for use or its just converted into triglycerides for fat storage.

Henx ewhu fructose is a lower gi as it needs some processing work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What do you mean by "nutritional value" yes your body can make sugar because glucose is about the only thing you can use to respire under normal conditions.

On a scale sugar provides more useful energy than other carbs per gram.

Sugar also causes insulin spikes which can be very useful for certain situations such as recovery after exercise as insulin is the best transporter you have.

An insuli. spike after exercise combined with readily available protein equals very rapid uptake into the muscles for growth and repair.

Your body doesn't need it, it can make it's own. Might be better to say you don't need sugar in your diet?"

You don't need carbs at all injected your body is perfectly capable of making them from amino acids and fat.

But it doesn't mean carbs don't have value

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Injested

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"PLEASE READ.

People got fat from cheap foods made from sugar and corn oil.

The people weren't educated about this back then.

The owners of the production plants are the SAME families as the POLITICIANS.

Politicians were being badgered to find cheap foods and they did.

Sugar goes into most food production because its a bulker and its cheap.

The companies make a FORTUNE by feeding the populace shite.

It's taken time but people are more aware. HOWEVER a lot of people are poor and can't afford to fill stomachs with meat and vegetables.

NOW THE RUB.........

The governments and companies already making money from cheap food production using sugar and oil decide its YOUR fault and put an extra tax on food.

It's not a massive tax.

You'll still buy it.

So now you remain fat and pay TWICE for it.

Governments are in a win win situation.

Ignorant people blame the people.

The people stay fat and pay for the privilege.

The Government and Companies sit back and say ........ 'hey , we tried to help but you just kept on buying and eating.'

IF GOVERMENTS CARED PEOPLE WOULD BE FED FOOD.

THIS SHIT WOULDN'T BE MANUFACTURED.

Some of you are so fucking deep in the Matrix you can't see.

Yeah it helps if you don't use American sources

Also bulkier? For the cost you could dump fibre in cause that's practically worthless if you just wanted to increase volume it's because it increases flavour

People got fat from eating too much.

There's so many flaws in what you are saying.

Eating too many calories isn't being over nourished.

My sources are sound. I don't understand your backhanded comment.

Over consuming calories make syou fat. Not eating sugar or cars (or most endurance athletes would be the size of houses the amount they shovel down)

And your sources are American you can tell by the corn reference "

You are making a point that I haven't disagreed with.

What's the problem you have with American sources ? Of which my sources are not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""But usually glucose is used anyway, i different type of sugar."

Just to pick up on this table sugar is sucrose which is one glucose bound to one fructose.

Glucose is what's used by your cells for respiration (iirc it's 38 atp per glucose) fructose had to be converted in the liver to glucose first for use or its just converted into triglycerides for fat storage.

Henx ewhu fructose is a lower gi as it needs some processing work"

Interesting. Now i know why shallow breathing can be a sign of hypo.

Anyway my point was you don't need this stuff they're taxing. It just makes things taste nice, which is why we're obsessed with cakes in here.

Yeah we (diabetics) get told not to eat too much fruit because of the way our body converts it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've all got a sweet tooth, some more than others, sure you can get by on far less but even tribal people who've never had sugar in their lives risk injury for honey!

I have one sugar in my tea, I always buy sugar cane not beet and I rarely have or fizzy drinks, and if I do, usually to be honest with a vodka or whiskey .... But NEVER diet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had the Sugar Tax years ago and it was abolished for it's stupidity years ago. Should be left dead and buried.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do Artificial Sweeteners get a rebate?

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

And after all of that, the PM is still a moron!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

"

I understand the point of doing something like this on principle but it would do fuck all to help the country financially, maybe a couple of million. And don't believe everything you read about MPs expenses and travelling habits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People get fat because of a mixture of factors including laziness, poor education and possibly parenting and to top it all off a lack of self control over what and when to eat.

Then there's all the other factors such as depression, boredom and a whole multitude more.

A sugar tax won't do much more to solve this that a extra tax on fuel would for the environment because let's be honest people prioritise their spending and spend money on food and fuel etc before they see what's left for anything else.

I was over 16st before I was 12 years of age and spent my entire life very overweight before peaking 5 years ago at 29st 12lb.

I'm now 12st 12lb give or take a pound of two either way and have been pretty stable and getting fitter as time goes on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The tax is pointless, just get the regulators to regulate the amount of sugar in stuff..

There's shit loads in tomatoe ketchup, it's primary use in food these days is as a preservative not a sweetener

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a load of shit. Yet again.

If there is a problem the answer is "tax it". Its not a solution its just a money spinner for the government.

Sugar is addictive. Folk will just spend what they want to have it. The Government knows that and takes advantage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

"

How about pay over the national average wage and get people doing the job out of duty rather than personal gain?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"My thoughts? The PM is a moron. "

And a liar - not trustworthy, even if he says he'll do it.

I can see punitive measures needed for producers too. They add sugars and junk to too much stuff, without need. And I'd probably do similarly with fats.

I'm a bit against taxes that affect the poorest the most.

The producers have largely responded by cutting portion sizes, usually whilst increasing price, so we already get a producers tax, without extra government taxes being added.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

How about pay over the national average wage and get people doing the job out of duty rather than personal gain?"

Bless you. They could probably end world hunger and bring peace to the middle east while they are at it too.

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over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

How about pay over the national average wage and get people doing the job out of duty rather than personal gain?"

Duty is all well and good but there's nothing wrong with wanting a good salary and being prepared to work hard for it. Which on the whole MPs do. Perhaps everyone paid from the public purse should earn just over the national wage? Doctors, teachers, local authority chief executives et al?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apart from fuel lately, everything goes up in price constantly. It will make no odds, if people want it they will buy it. MacDonalds apparently makes people fat (guess they force people to eat it and not exercise) yet even with the price increases people still buy it. A price tag won't put people off, unless they can't really afford it.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

Can't see it will make much difference I don't notice loads of people giving up smoking every time a packet of fags goes up by 20p so doubt a few pence on a can of for example will deter anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

How about pay over the national average wage and get people doing the job out of duty rather than personal gain?

Duty is all well and good but there's nothing wrong with wanting a good salary and being prepared to work hard for it. Which on the whole MPs do. Perhaps everyone paid from the public purse should earn just over the national wage? Doctors, teachers, local authority chief executives et al?"

Fuck it, let's all earn above average wages

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Instead of making it more expensive why not make fresh food cost less or something... Not got a fucking clue how that would work mind.

Increasing tax on unhealthy food won't make a jot of difference though.

I mean when did you last see a lettuce on bogof?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

How about pay over the national average wage and get people doing the job out of duty rather than personal gain?

Duty is all well and good but there's nothing wrong with wanting a good salary and being prepared to work hard for it. Which on the whole MPs do. Perhaps everyone paid from the public purse should earn just over the national wage? Doctors, teachers, local authority chief executives et al?

Fuck it, let's all earn above average wages "
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Moneys not everything, but in reality nobody should earn less than what's needed by a minimum standard, sure I earn alright but I work for it!, I don't want to see people with difficulties struggle for bare essentials but sky TV has become essential to some people these days! .

As for sugar, I honestly don't think it's that bad for you in moderation, so just get the fsa to regulate how much sugar is allowed in shit... Surely it can't be that hard to say oi Heinz stop putting 15 spoonfuls in a bottle of ketchup, and 40 in a tin of Coke and 15 in a frozen lasagna!

It's like the fuss with bacon, sure red meats not the best food for you, but it's not the killer.. It's the processing of the meat and all the added... And alot of the times unnecessary chemicals they add..

What the fuck happened to regulation in this country!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

How about pay over the national average wage and get people doing the job out of duty rather than personal gain?

Duty is all well and good but there's nothing wrong with wanting a good salary and being prepared to work hard for it. Which on the whole MPs do. Perhaps everyone paid from the public purse should earn just over the national wage? Doctors, teachers, local authority chief executives et al?

Fuck it, let's all earn above average wages .

Moneys not everything, but in reality nobody should earn less than what's needed by a minimum standard, sure I earn alright but I work for it!, I don't want to see people with difficulties struggle for bare essentials but sky TV has become essential to some people these days! .

As for sugar, I honestly don't think it's that bad for you in moderation, so just get the fsa to regulate how much sugar is allowed in shit... Surely it can't be that hard to say oi Heinz stop putting 15 spoonfuls in a bottle of ketchup, and 40 in a tin of Coke and 15 in a frozen lasagna!

It's like the fuss with bacon, sure red meats not the best food for you, but it's not the killer.. It's the processing of the meat and all the added... And alot of the times unnecessary chemicals they add..

What the fuck happened to regulation in this country!"

Enough of these moderate suggestions already. This is the forum where we specialise in public shaming, anti-thatcher rants and lynch mobs.

I once knew a man who had a dog and he told me that eating bacon gives you cancer so all pig famers are secret tories working with the CIA to oppress the working class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

How about pay over the national average wage and get people doing the job out of duty rather than personal gain?

Duty is all well and good but there's nothing wrong with wanting a good salary and being prepared to work hard for it. Which on the whole MPs do. Perhaps everyone paid from the public purse should earn just over the national wage? Doctors, teachers, local authority chief executives et al?

Fuck it, let's all earn above average wages .

Moneys not everything, but in reality nobody should earn less than what's needed by a minimum standard, sure I earn alright but I work for it!, I don't want to see people with difficulties struggle for bare essentials but sky TV has become essential to some people these days! .

As for sugar, I honestly don't think it's that bad for you in moderation, so just get the fsa to regulate how much sugar is allowed in shit... Surely it can't be that hard to say oi Heinz stop putting 15 spoonfuls in a bottle of ketchup, and 40 in a tin of Coke and 15 in a frozen lasagna!

It's like the fuss with bacon, sure red meats not the best food for you, but it's not the killer.. It's the processing of the meat and all the added... And alot of the times unnecessary chemicals they add..

What the fuck happened to regulation in this country!

Enough of these moderate suggestions already. This is the forum where we specialise in public shaming, anti-thatcher rants and lynch mobs.

I once knew a man who had a dog and he told me that eating bacon gives you cancer so all pig famers are secret tories working with the CIA to oppress the working class. "
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Haha... I think the who have thrown this out in the hope of dissuading some people from red meat because red meat is one of the biggest causes of methane emissions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

How about pay over the national average wage and get people doing the job out of duty rather than personal gain?

Duty is all well and good but there's nothing wrong with wanting a good salary and being prepared to work hard for it. Which on the whole MPs do. Perhaps everyone paid from the public purse should earn just over the national wage? Doctors, teachers, local authority chief executives et al?

Fuck it, let's all earn above average wages .

Moneys not everything, but in reality nobody should earn less than what's needed by a minimum standard, sure I earn alright but I work for it!, I don't want to see people with difficulties struggle for bare essentials but sky TV has become essential to some people these days! .

As for sugar, I honestly don't think it's that bad for you in moderation, so just get the fsa to regulate how much sugar is allowed in shit... Surely it can't be that hard to say oi Heinz stop putting 15 spoonfuls in a bottle of ketchup, and 40 in a tin of Coke and 15 in a frozen lasagna!

It's like the fuss with bacon, sure red meats not the best food for you, but it's not the killer.. It's the processing of the meat and all the added... And alot of the times unnecessary chemicals they add..

What the fuck happened to regulation in this country!

Enough of these moderate suggestions already. This is the forum where we specialise in public shaming, anti-thatcher rants and lynch mobs.

I once knew a man who had a dog and he told me that eating bacon gives you cancer so all pig famers are secret tories working with the CIA to oppress the working class. .

Haha... I think the who have thrown this out in the hope of dissuading some people from red meat because red meat is one of the biggest causes of methane emissions"

I can't wait to go in tesco and see a sticker on a steak that says "made from low-farting cows"..."our cows are fed a special diet which means they only fart when they have to, in secluded restrooms and never in public. We instigated a public education programme to help cows understand that tarting in public is anti-social..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to prove I'm not trolling this thread, if anyone seriously thinks that a sugar tax would make even a small dent in the obesity crisis, or that bacon causes cancer or there's any other reason to hand over more money to an incompetent bunch of politicians who already waste enough; try reading "why most published researching findings are false" by John ioannidis (2005) which will completely piss on your chips.

The answer really is as simple as sexybum said, just about anything in moderation is fine. A tiny tax makes f-all difference to that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

How about pay over the national average wage and get people doing the job out of duty rather than personal gain?

Duty is all well and good but there's nothing wrong with wanting a good salary and being prepared to work hard for it. Which on the whole MPs do. Perhaps everyone paid from the public purse should earn just over the national wage? Doctors, teachers, local authority chief executives et al?

Fuck it, let's all earn above average wages .

Moneys not everything, but in reality nobody should earn less than what's needed by a minimum standard, sure I earn alright but I work for it!, I don't want to see people with difficulties struggle for bare essentials but sky TV has become essential to some people these days! .

As for sugar, I honestly don't think it's that bad for you in moderation, so just get the fsa to regulate how much sugar is allowed in shit... Surely it can't be that hard to say oi Heinz stop putting 15 spoonfuls in a bottle of ketchup, and 40 in a tin of Coke and 15 in a frozen lasagna!

It's like the fuss with bacon, sure red meats not the best food for you, but it's not the killer.. It's the processing of the meat and all the added... And alot of the times unnecessary chemicals they add..

What the fuck happened to regulation in this country!

Enough of these moderate suggestions already. This is the forum where we specialise in public shaming, anti-thatcher rants and lynch mobs.

I once knew a man who had a dog and he told me that eating bacon gives you cancer so all pig famers are secret tories working with the CIA to oppress the working class. .

Haha... I think the who have thrown this out in the hope of dissuading some people from red meat because red meat is one of the biggest causes of methane emissions

I can't wait to go in tesco and see a sticker on a steak that says "made from low-farting cows"..."our cows are fed a special diet which means they only fart when they have to, in secluded restrooms and never in public. We instigated a public education programme to help cows understand that tarting in public is anti-social..." "
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I think McDonald's adopted the low red meat thing years ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it will happen no matter people's views. However I do think another solution to help the country financially would be to cap all MP's salaries to a lower level and pay the money back into system via a tax. Cut out their spending habits like other businesses have to. For example no 5 star hotels when a budget chain will do. No business class when economy is fine.

Limit their housing allowances and other things they claim for.

Perhaps if they lived in the real world people may have more time for them too.

But mps get paid hardly anything for the level of the job it's around the same as a head teacher.

Are people surprised when you give people the power to make laws then pay them 60k a year that they tend to favour the companies they own and run that make them millions?

Pay peanuts get corrupt monkeys

How about pay over the national average wage and get people doing the job out of duty rather than personal gain?

Duty is all well and good but there's nothing wrong with wanting a good salary and being prepared to work hard for it. Which on the whole MPs do. Perhaps everyone paid from the public purse should earn just over the national wage? Doctors, teachers, local authority chief executives et al?

Fuck it, let's all earn above average wages .

Moneys not everything, but in reality nobody should earn less than what's needed by a minimum standard, sure I earn alright but I work for it!, I don't want to see people with difficulties struggle for bare essentials but sky TV has become essential to some people these days! .

As for sugar, I honestly don't think it's that bad for you in moderation, so just get the fsa to regulate how much sugar is allowed in shit... Surely it can't be that hard to say oi Heinz stop putting 15 spoonfuls in a bottle of ketchup, and 40 in a tin of Coke and 15 in a frozen lasagna!

It's like the fuss with bacon, sure red meats not the best food for you, but it's not the killer.. It's the processing of the meat and all the added... And alot of the times unnecessary chemicals they add..

What the fuck happened to regulation in this country!

Enough of these moderate suggestions already. This is the forum where we specialise in public shaming, anti-thatcher rants and lynch mobs.

I once knew a man who had a dog and he told me that eating bacon gives you cancer so all pig famers are secret tories working with the CIA to oppress the working class. .

Haha... I think the who have thrown this out in the hope of dissuading some people from red meat because red meat is one of the biggest causes of methane emissions

I can't wait to go in tesco and see a sticker on a steak that says "made from low-farting cows"..."our cows are fed a special diet which means they only fart when they have to, in secluded restrooms and never in public. We instigated a public education programme to help cows understand that tarting in public is anti-social..." .

I think McDonald's adopted the low red meat thing years ago"

According to their marketing, their shit doesn't stink either

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By *rotiquexxxMan
over a year ago

Unquenchable Desires

The tax should go to companies so that they change to healthier types of sugar content their food. Taxing the consumer because they're buying 10 packets of chocolate biscuits is not the right way about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't agree with the proposal for slapping a sugar tax on soft drinks....

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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Thank god they dont tax pussy or cock ,,, we would all be broke.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thank god they dont tax pussy or cock ,,, we would all be broke. "

Speak for yourself,,,, I'd be entitled to a rebate,,,,

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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"Thank god they dont tax pussy or cock ,,, we would all be broke.

Speak for yourself,,,, I'd be entitled to a rebate,,,, "

Lmao, you try getting a rebait,

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

I think a sugar tax is an excellent idea

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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"I think a sugar tax is an excellent idea "

its just another easy money tax,

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I think a sugar tax is an excellent idea

its just another easy money tax, "

It is my opinion and one that can be substantiated with robust data , that sugar is one of the most harmful drugs that is currently uncontrolled

Sugar in its refined form is the product I refer to , not that which naturally occurs

I'd suggest a tax on added refined sugar content that exceed let's say 25 %

I'd go further and suggest a tax on many processed food and that used to directly subsidise more wholesome foods which many on the forums suggest are prohibitively expensive , when compared to an Iceland frozen pizza xx

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby


"Can't see it will make much difference I don't notice loads of people giving up smoking every time a packet of fags goes up by 20p so doubt a few pence on a can of for example will deter anyone. "
"This" Anyone Who is hardcore in their habits ( pardon the pun) will find it extremely hard to give up things if they are available to Them price Increase or no price Increase Especially smokeing as its a drug, I,m sure if things became unavailable more Then some people would find it harder to partake in these habits but they would be available to others be it driven underground more and they were prepared to go that bit further to gain access to them even cream cakes Could be on the list.. but yes availability is key joe public will always be there with his open purse, like someone said earlier if pm and is chums have got Industrys aside makeing big profits, why should they stop makeing them, and that is any government in power where profits are concerned, thats why there are not a lot of Incentives to look out for the food that might be nutritional and not Just crap, look at abeastity in american are american politicians doing the same there and rakeing in the profits? I mix it up a bit but Don,t over do things everything in moderation but I do have weakness,s for crisps, and thou I love cream cakes I won,t pay those prices often so in a way its a good thing but I have cut out things like sugar,salt, more or less now certainly not at home If I can help it, sweeteners, and black pepper, but as tesco says every little bit helps and its surpriseing how much you don,t really miss these things over a short time.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

It's going to make absolutly no bloody difference.

How about putting money into educating children about healthy food, educating parents on how to cook low budget healthy food.

That you can have treats that are not full of crap.

That there is actually nothing wrong with a small limited amount of sugar.

People thought I was odd and was even accused of depriving my son because he never had a sweet in his life until he was over 5 then it was very occasionally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok I'm fat, BUT I don't eat much sugar (apart from added in products).

I don't have a sweet tooth much prefer savoury foods

My weight is partly due to my thyroid and PCOS but I don't have the healthiest diet either.

I only drink sugar free drinks, my fave foods are cheese, sugar free granola, and fat free Greek yogurt oh and wine and crisps

Sugar is in so many foods, most fat free products are full of sugar, bread (my weakness) full of sugar, dried fruit, normal fruit, anything pre packaged. How far are they going to take this? Natural sugars?

It wouldn't affect me if it just targeted raw sugars, sweets, chocolates, it would affect me if they taxed bread, crisps, wine etc

It would affect Paul as he's a chocoholic

For me it would totally affect my business as I make cakes part time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OK in an attempt to offer a solution with the least resistance..... I have devised a cunning plan....

Surely by now there can't be anyone in the UK over the age of 10 who isn't aware that too much sugar is not good for you......

So rather than tax sugar wouldn't it be easier to ban children under the age of 10 from buying items containing sugar,,,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The pm is under pressure to introduce the sugar tax. Do you think it is a good idea and will it help kids to be healthier and everyone else to? I heard it might be 10p extra. What is your thought?"

Its bollocks. Just an excuse to cash grab. People will still eat shit

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"The pm is under pressure to introduce the sugar tax. Do you think it is a good idea and will it help kids to be healthier and everyone else to? I heard it might be 10p extra. What is your thought?

Its bollocks. Just an excuse to cash grab. People will still eat shit "

The it's about more money in their pockets smokers are taxed beyond belief they still choose smoke so it'll make no difference people that still want to eat sugar will pay

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"It's going to make absolutly no bloody difference.

How about putting money into educating children about healthy food, educating parents on how to cook low budget healthy food.

That you can have treats that are not full of crap.

That there is actually nothing wrong with a small limited amount of sugar.

People thought I was odd and was even accused of depriving my son because he never had a sweet in his life until he was over 5 then it was very occasionally.

"

I agree more money should be put into education on eating a balanced diet we all need a certain level of sugar but it is far better sourced from food that contain it naturally for example in fruit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's going to make absolutly no bloody difference.

How about putting money into educating children about healthy food, educating parents on how to cook low budget healthy food.

That you can have treats that are not full of crap.

That there is actually nothing wrong with a small limited amount of sugar.

People thought I was odd and was even accused of depriving my son because he never had a sweet in his life until he was over 5 then it was very occasionally.

I agree more money should be put into education on eating a balanced diet we all need a certain level of sugar but it is far better sourced from food that contain it naturally for example in fruit "

I think most people realise the food thats bad for them though. Not sure what difference it'll make

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By *eeDee25Woman
over a year ago

crook

I wont stop using sugar. The pm is a twat

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"It's going to make absolutly no bloody difference.

How about putting money into educating children about healthy food, educating parents on how to cook low budget healthy food.

That you can have treats that are not full of crap.

That there is actually nothing wrong with a small limited amount of sugar.

People thought I was odd and was even accused of depriving my son because he never had a sweet in his life until he was over 5 then it was very occasionally.

I agree more money should be put into education on eating a balanced diet we all need a certain level of sugar but it is far better sourced from food that contain it naturally for example in fruit

I think most people realise the food thats bad for them though. Not sure what difference it'll make"

You'd be surprised there any many that think eating fat free yoghurts are healthy a lot of them aren't as they contain hidden sugars and lots of them, One of the worst example of this are the large Onken tubs of yoghurt the say dat free but are loaded with sugar

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By *heOwlMan
over a year ago

Altrincham


"The pm is under pressure to introduce the sugar tax. Do you think it is a good idea and will it help kids to be healthier and everyone else to? I heard it might be 10p extra. What is your thought?"

No, it just means the the sugar will be replaced by artifical sweetners, so of which are far more harmful than sugar.

All that will happen is that people like me will end up with my choise reduced, cause I cannot stand any of the fake sweetners.

Owl

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

Time to buy bee hives....yum love Mead..

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By *eeDee25Woman
over a year ago

crook

I dont smoke or drink so need some enjoyment ie sugar.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

Plaid Cymru (Welsh political party) has now put this on their manifesto to pay for 1000 new doctors and 5000 new nurses, I cant see it going down very well in the valleys lol!

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By *helbeeCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton

Good idea .too many over weight people about

If I can loose weight

I've gall stones ..I've lost 2 stone in 4 months im now 8 stone 5 lbs

It's been hard to do

I've done it...an gone to the gym too

An I don't have junk food any more

I think a sugar tax would be good to stop people having too much sugar

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"Good idea .too many over weight people about

If I can loose weight

I've gall stones ..I've lost 2 stone in 4 months im now 8 stone 5 lbs

It's been hard to do

I've done it...an gone to the gym too

An I don't have junk food any more

I think a sugar tax would be good to stop people having too much sugar "

Tax or no tax People that want to eat it still will. Look at the tax on cigarettes and alcohol and yet there are still smokers and alcoholics

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By *helbeeCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton

They will

But I won't

An instead of eating sweets an chocolate etc i replace it with fruit

An having gall stones has been life changing an had to change my diet ...as i don't want another gall stone attack an end up in hospital it's not nice to have ..an im on a low fat diet as i can't have fatty foods or high sugar content

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"They will

But I won't

An instead of eating sweets an chocolate etc i replace it with fruit

An having gall stones has been life changing an had to change my diet ...as i don't want another gall stone attack an end up in hospital it's not nice to have ..an im on a low fat diet as i can't have fatty foods or high sugar content

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That's fine of that works for you your comment implied the tax would stop people buying it and being fat it won't.

I've lost 14 stone myself through eating right and exercising but I would never say I can do it so anyone can either.

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over a year ago

Obesity is a huge issue, in terms of affecting people's lives, society, costs and draining the NHS etc.

Don't see any issues with a sugar tax, it's of no nutritional value and people overindulge in it easily. If costs of shit food go up, then it will force more people to make good decisions or considerations at least. Surely we can't carry on helping people become unhealthy. I can't see why people are bothered by it, personally.

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Belfast


"The pm is under pressure to introduce the sugar tax. Do you think it is a good idea and will it help kids to be healthier and everyone else to? I heard it might be 10p extra. What is your thought?"

Yes. We're in the midst of a lifestyle/ dietary related disease epidemic.

As much as the idea of a nannying taxation irks me, something needs to happen to steer people away from adulterated , sugary profoundly unhealthy convenience foods.

Sugar itself in its granular, singular form should be exempt though. Only the convenience foods that are laced with ridiculous amounts should bare the burden of a levy / taxation.

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By *S RachaelTV/TS
over a year ago

Lowestoft


"The pm is under pressure to introduce the sugar tax. Do you think it is a good idea and will it help kids to be healthier and everyone else to? I heard it might be 10p extra. What is your thought?"

This needs to be put on at source when it enters the country or, if locally grown, where it's produced.

But no, it's not the best idea. The best idea would be a law that manufacturers of all products should reduce the sugar content by 5% or so each year and be able to demonstrate it if required.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"Obesity is a huge issue, in terms of affecting people's lives, society, costs and draining the NHS etc.

Don't see any issues with a sugar tax, it's of no nutritional value and people overindulge in it easily. If costs of shit food go up, then it will force more people to make good decisions or considerations at least. Surely we can't carry on helping people become unhealthy. I can't see why people are bothered by it, personally. "

Anorexia and bulimia are becoming more costly to the NHS than obesity as they leave more damaging long term consequences, whereas an obese person can loose weight and improve many of their conditions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a huge issue, in terms of affecting people's lives, society, costs and draining the NHS etc.

Don't see any issues with a sugar tax, it's of no nutritional value and people overindulge in it easily. If costs of shit food go up, then it will force more people to make good decisions or considerations at least. Surely we can't carry on helping people become unhealthy. I can't see why people are bothered by it, personally.

Anorexia and bulimia are becoming more costly to the NHS than obesity as they leave more damaging long term consequences, whereas an obese person can loose weight and improve many of their conditions.

"

I'd like to see where you got that information from? And whilst eating is an issue related to those, they are mental health conditions - mental health is obviously well documented as a huge area of need.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"Obesity is a huge issue, in terms of affecting people's lives, society, costs and draining the NHS etc.

Don't see any issues with a sugar tax, it's of no nutritional value and people overindulge in it easily. If costs of shit food go up, then it will force more people to make good decisions or considerations at least. Surely we can't carry on helping people become unhealthy. I can't see why people are bothered by it, personally.

Anorexia and bulimia are becoming more costly to the NHS than obesity as they leave more damaging long term consequences, whereas an obese person can loose weight and improve many of their conditions.

I'd like to see where you got that information from? And whilst eating is an issue related to those, they are mental health conditions - mental health is obviously well documented as a huge area of need."

From very recent studies, But you're neglecting that obesity can be a mental health issue as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a huge issue, in terms of affecting people's lives, society, costs and draining the NHS etc.

Don't see any issues with a sugar tax, it's of no nutritional value and people overindulge in it easily. If costs of shit food go up, then it will force more people to make good decisions or considerations at least. Surely we can't carry on helping people become unhealthy. I can't see why people are bothered by it, personally.

Anorexia and bulimia are becoming more costly to the NHS than obesity as they leave more damaging long term consequences, whereas an obese person can loose weight and improve many of their conditions.

I'd like to see where you got that information from? And whilst eating is an issue related to those, they are mental health conditions - mental health is obviously well documented as a huge area of need.

From very recent studies, But you're neglecting that obesity can be a mental health issue as well. "

I've not seen them, feel free to PM me a link to them. Mental health and physical obesity can be linked clearly, but diet and culture are massive issues, lack of exercise and support are big too of course.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Take years to work as 10p will not stop kids buying chocs and fizzy drinks

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"Obesity is a huge issue, in terms of affecting people's lives, society, costs and draining the NHS etc.

Don't see any issues with a sugar tax, it's of no nutritional value and people overindulge in it easily. If costs of shit food go up, then it will force more people to make good decisions or considerations at least. Surely we can't carry on helping people become unhealthy. I can't see why people are bothered by it, personally.

Anorexia and bulimia are becoming more costly to the NHS than obesity as they leave more damaging long term consequences, whereas an obese person can loose weight and improve many of their conditions.

I'd like to see where you got that information from? And whilst eating is an issue related to those, they are mental health conditions - mental health is obviously well documented as a huge area of need.

From very recent studies, But you're neglecting that obesity can be a mental health issue as well.

I've not seen them, feel free to PM me a link to them. Mental health and physical obesity can be linked clearly, but diet and culture are massive issues, lack of exercise and support are big too of course. "

obesity is more common in women than men, even more so in post menopausal women due to hormonal changes in the body, There are hormonal conditions such as PCOS which is notorious for causing weight gain, even menstrual cycles impact it. You lucky Men don't have this to contend with. Men are also scientifically proven to have naturally faster metabolism than women so your sex have an advantage there too. That's before you get into the mental health issue such as emotional eating for example

Now I'm not trying to use these as excuses as forms of justifying obesity, because of course as you say diet and excercise are also factors, but weight is such a grey area. for example:

My best friend is one of these very "lucky" women that can appear to eat crap all day long and remain slim with very little exercise, however because she eats crap all day her levels of visceral fat around her organs is at an unhealthy level and she's having to cut back for the sake of her cholesterol but she is slim and therefore many would say "healthy" .

Now I eat a balanced diet and exercise regularly but I have PCOS so although I'm loosing weight it's an extremely slow process for me. My visceral fat levels are as healthy as a women of my age within healthy BMI, but my subcentaceous fat is large and evident. I'm much fitter and have greater endurance levels than my friend because I excercise so although I appear fat I'm actually healthier

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Veseral fat is what cost the NHS money, that isn't Specific to obese people, though it is stereotyped that way

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