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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

As right across England it's the opening meet for the fox hounds who's going and who does not understand hunting ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As right across England it's the opening meet for the fox hounds who's going and who does not understand hunting ?"

I understand hunting, I've been doing it all my life.

Setting a pack of dogs on a Fox is not hunting, it's cruelty in the name of pest control.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not my thing to go and do but I do understand the reasons behind it and personally I do support the rights to hunt (my family has a lot of farmers in it)

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I support Oscar Wilde's view.

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

Always wanted to be the master of the Hunt loved boxing day hunt

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Hunting is the acquisition of food.

Fox hunting is pest control in a very inefficient way just for the supposed enjoyment and a good ride out. A half decent gamekeeper bags more foxes with less effort than any hunt ever did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hunting is the acquisition of food.

Fox hunting is pest control in a very inefficient way just for the supposed enjoyment and a good ride out. A half decent gamekeeper bags more foxes with less effort than any hunt ever did. "

Exactly. It's also far more humane.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently the term "Tally-ho" was first used as a hunting cry in America way back in 1802.....

So I blame the yanks.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love to see the red coats and riding hats chased by a pack of dogs baying for blood,then i would go to a hunt meeting,hunting no problem,killing for pleasure NO!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have done a thread on this before and it didn't end well from my memory.

I'd like to say your life live it how you want. But when you do things like that for entertainment enjoy your thread.

It's nice to delude yourself that people who don't agree don't understand makes things very black and white I'm guessing...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not my thing as both a horsey person and country dweller.

Same thing as Bullfighting in my opinion. Killing for entertainment.

Not efficient or humane pest control at all.

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By *ancadamMan
over a year ago

Stockport


"Hunting is the acquisition of food.

Fox hunting is pest control in a very inefficient way just for the supposed enjoyment and a good ride out. A half decent gamekeeper bags more foxes with less effort than any hunt ever did. "
agree.....it is a cruel and unnecessary activity which questions the mentality of those who derive pleasure from it.if the fox was such a pest or danger it would have been eradicated like other species have been.don't try and mask the crude violent pleasure of killing an animal as sport or as a necessary activity.....and don't claim people 'don't understand'.it really is nothing more than the enjoyment of killing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its pretty sick it has to be said. I don't mind hunting but fox hunting with horses and dogs etc is vile. I heard the horns once when i was a kid and hated the sound too.

Whats wrong with just shooting something why do you have to rip it apart?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a fun sport for dicks on horseback masquerading as a necessity.

I may not live in the sticks but I know bollocks when I see it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hunting is the acquisition of food.

Fox hunting is pest control in a very inefficient way just for the supposed enjoyment and a good ride out. A half decent gamekeeper bags more foxes with less effort than any hunt ever did. "

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By *ancadamMan
over a year ago

Stockport


"Its a fun sport for dicks on horseback masquerading as a necessity.

I may not live in the sticks but I know bollocks when I see it."
spot on! very well put.....and made me laugh!

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

still think it was hilarious when the animal rights lot turned out to protest at our local hunt big placards lots of shouting press in attendance .

its a drag hunt lol

and know i dont agree with hunting anything unless you plan to eat it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it's no different to dog fighting in my opinion and nobody will convince me different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I go hunting with a pack of bloodhounds not fox hounds. They are hilarious. I used to help walk them. Had 2 of the puppies on leads they got excited wrapped round my legs then 2 of the other puppies also on leads wrapped round my legs the other way. I thought it would be best if I sat down to untangle myself but as I did so 25 loose bloodhounds decided to play "pile on" and I got mobbed and pocket emptied of biscuits. My fave hound would walk beside me and undo the zip on my pocket I had biscuits in and help himself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I go hunting with a pack of bloodhounds not fox hounds. They are hilarious. I used to help walk them. Had 2 of the puppies on leads they got excited wrapped round my legs then 2 of the other puppies also on leads wrapped round my legs the other way. I thought it would be best if I sat down to untangle myself but as I did so 25 loose bloodhounds decided to play "pile on" and I got mobbed and pocket emptied of biscuits. My fave hound would walk beside me and undo the zip on my pocket I had biscuits in and help himself. "

Yes and I am her Master too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understand control of pests I was brought up shooting. I've also used dogs ferrets traps and with rats and mice poison.

If you eat meat an animal shot in the wild led a far better life and got a better death than a production line another!

However killing for fun is not fun to me and not enough reason for a sane human to take an animals life.

No Fox hunting was allowed on our families land and mother nature balanced out Fox populations with no help from us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As right across England it's the opening meet for the fox hounds who's going and who does not understand hunting ?"
I don't have a horse I have been ridden though but I'm out hugs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"still think it was hilarious when the animal rights lot turned out to protest at our local hunt big placards lots of shouting press in attendance .

its a drag hunt lol

and know i dont agree with hunting anything unless you plan to eat it "

Stalybridge has a hunt ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

should be banned its damn cruel there must be a more humain way to deal with foxes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I point out that riding a horse behind a pack of hounds is more about enjoying riding than killing anything. Its funny also that you all forget that we no longer hunt foxes with hounds as its illegal. Hounds legally follow scent laid down or in the case of bloodhounds they have always hunted human scent. The big issue is people dont understand and believe everyone who hunts are "toffs" and rich. Few are as if you have ever owned a horse you would know they litrally eat money!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"should be banned its damn cruel there must be a more humain way to deal with foxes"

It is ffs!! Another example of people knowing nothing!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"still think it was hilarious when the animal rights lot turned out to protest at our local hunt big placards lots of shouting press in attendance .

its a drag hunt lol

and know i dont agree with hunting anything unless you plan to eat it

Stalybridge has a hunt ? "

We are everywhere but most people dont notice as they are indoors cause the winter is cold for townies who move to the country...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People still are hunting with dogs but the Fox hunting brigade get away with it while people using terriers for rabbit's get collared by the rozzers.

If riding is so much fun why do they need to dress like twats behave pissed hooligans and risk injuries to an innocent horse?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"should be banned its damn cruel there must be a more humain way to deal with foxes

It is ffs!! Another example of people knowing nothing!!"

actually i know quite a bit on fox hunting so dont post about it if you dont want others opinions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"should be banned its damn cruel there must be a more humain way to deal with foxes

It is ffs!! Another example of people knowing nothing!!

actually i know quite a bit on fox hunting so dont post about it if you dont want others opinions "

Well 1 I didnt start this 2 if you are so well informed when did the hunting act change to allow legal hunting with a pack of hounds either a fox or a hare??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As right across England it's the opening meet for the fox hounds who's going and who does not understand hunting ?"

I understand the reasons I just think it's a cruel way to kill an animal..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People still are hunting with dogs but the Fox hunting brigade get away with it while people using terriers for rabbit's get collared by the rozzers.

If riding is so much fun why do they need to dress like twats behave pissed hooligans and risk injuries to an innocent horse? "

We hunt a pack of terriers legally as thats legal as long as its rabbits or rats. We dress for the days hunting to show respect to the land owners who give us permission to hunt on their land and also my attire is designed to keep me warm and dry and protect me from injury. My horses are prepared for hunting with excercise and good food. I care about my horses and their welfare so in short get educated about my sport before talking shit..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I point out that riding a horse behind a pack of hounds is more about enjoying riding than killing anything. Its funny also that you all forget that we no longer hunt foxes with hounds as its illegal. Hounds legally follow scent laid down or in the case of bloodhounds they have always hunted human scent. The big issue is people dont understand and believe everyone who hunts are "toffs" and rich. Few are as if you have ever owned a horse you would know they litrally eat money!!!"

Try stopping a pack of hounds from deviating from the trail that has been laid down when they come across a foxes scent though. In my experience some hunts still practice bagging and stopping-up of holes- why, if they are in fact just following a trail?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As right across England it's the opening meet for the fox hounds who's going and who does not understand hunting ?

I understand the reasons I just think it's a cruel way to kill an animal.."

We dont its illegal currently so the option is snaring, trapping, poison or shooting all have issues too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I point out that riding a horse behind a pack of hounds is more about enjoying riding than killing anything. Its funny also that you all forget that we no longer hunt foxes with hounds as its illegal. Hounds legally follow scent laid down or in the case of bloodhounds they have always hunted human scent. The big issue is people dont understand and believe everyone who hunts are "toffs" and rich. Few are as if you have ever owned a horse you would know they litrally eat money!!!

Try stopping a pack of hounds from deviating from the trail that has been laid down when they come across a foxes scent though. In my experience some hunts still practice bagging and stopping-up of holes- why, if they are in fact just following a trail? "

If they do then they are breaking the law. Its not something I have come accross or would support.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"should be banned its damn cruel there must be a more humain way to deal with foxes

It is ffs!! Another example of people knowing nothing!!

actually i know quite a bit on fox hunting so dont post about it if you dont want others opinions

Well 1 I didnt start this 2 if you are so well informed when did the hunting act change to allow legal hunting with a pack of hounds either a fox or a hare??"
around about 11 years or so smart ass i stick to my opion its damn cruel to hunt foxes or as a mere woman am i not entitled to have an opinion?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesnt matter if its hounds ,twats in red coats or pea shooters if you are killing for fun its wrong it really is that simple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It doesnt matter if its hounds ,twats in red coats or pea shooters if you are killing for fun its wrong it really is that simple"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd make them eat every fucking morsel of every fox that gets chased to exhaustion then ripped apart by dogs. More foxes are killed with dogs now than were before the hunting act and we get hare coursing out here all the fuc King time...they just throw them in the hedge...it's also road kill city here because 1000's of pheasants have been released by game keepers for shoots...do it if you must, but don't dress it up as anything more than what it is...killing things for fun...they're no better than badger and bear baiters, they just have better publicity and more powerful supporters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The attire is irrelevant. Fyi not everyone wears red coats- certain hunt staff-including the master, and those that have been invited to, wear it. The dress code is not the point.

Neither is the wealth.

Its the way the fox dies.

I have worked in hunting and those that perpetuate the myth that it is anything less than inhumane are deluded.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I point out that riding a horse behind a pack of hounds is more about enjoying riding than killing anything. Its funny also that you all forget that we no longer hunt foxes with hounds as its illegal. Hounds legally follow scent laid down or in the case of bloodhounds they have always hunted human scent. The big issue is people dont understand and believe everyone who hunts are "toffs" and rich. Few are as if you have ever owned a horse you would know they litrally eat money!!!

Try stopping a pack of hounds from deviating from the trail that has been laid down when they come across a foxes scent though. In my experience some hunts still practice bagging and stopping-up of holes- why, if they are in fact just following a trail?

If they do then they are breaking the law. Its not something I have come accross or would support."

They're allowed to kill a fox if one crosses the path of the pack...because foxes often just "wander"across the path of a pack of dogs out for a jolly old gallop...or they do when released from a bag they've been kept in by hunt employees...and other well known practices...have a look at "cubbing" if anyone is in any doubt...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The attire is irrelevant. Fyi not everyone wears red coats- certain hunt staff-including the master, and those that have been invited to, wear it. The dress code is not the point.

Neither is the wealth.

Its the way the fox dies.

I have worked in hunting and those that perpetuate the myth that it is anything less than inhumane are deluded."

Also whats with the red coat?? I am a master I dont wear hunting pink.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"still think it was hilarious when the animal rights lot turned out to protest at our local hunt big placards lots of shouting press in attendance .

its a drag hunt lol

and know i dont agree with hunting anything unless you plan to eat it "

How do they run in heels?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People still are hunting with dogs but the Fox hunting brigade get away with it while people using terriers for rabbit's get collared by the rozzers.

If riding is so much fun why do they need to dress like twats behave pissed hooligans and risk injuries to an innocent horse?

We hunt a pack of terriers legally as thats legal as long as its rabbits or rats. We dress for the days hunting to show respect to the land owners who give us permission to hunt on their land and also my attire is designed to keep me warm and dry and protect me from injury. My horses are prepared for hunting with excercise and good food. I care about my horses and their welfare so in short get educated about my sport before talking shit.."

Hunting with a pack of any dogs isn't hunting, regardless of prey.

All you are is a spectator with a list to see an animal ripped to shreds.

I grew up hunting and still hunt (for food) in the true sense. Me against an animal. What you do goes against every moral code a true hunter follows.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People here have morals ,you misguided swingers this is an immoral world hugs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No runners (person laying the scent) have been harmed in any of the hunts I have been on. Covered in slobber maybe but not ripped limb from limb.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

When Labour was working on making fox hunting illegal, they commissioned an independent study to prove that they were right bringing in the ban.

The study stated that fox hunting wasn't as cruel and inefficient as Labour were making out...

They tried to bury the report as it didn't support them...

I'm not taking sides, just stating a fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When Labour was working on making fox hunting illegal, they commissioned an independent study to prove that they were right bringing in the ban.

The study stated that fox hunting wasn't as cruel and inefficient as Labour were making out...

They tried to bury the report as it didn't support them...

I'm not taking sides, just stating a fact."

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By *rMrs-Luv-ItCouple
over a year ago

cwmbranish

Was raised in the country side when i was small i use to cry every sunday when i could hear the horns blowing and dogs barking always been way to soft when it comes to any animal

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

*yawns*

"The unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible."

Pass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was raised in the country side when i was small i use to cry every sunday when i could hear the horns blowing and dogs barking always been way to soft when it comes to any animal "

Must of been bloodhounds if its a sunday and they dont hunt animals...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone had pulled fox pie its rather nice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it would be fun to dress one of the hunt guys as a fox along with scent allow 10 minutes head start and hunt him/her in the same manner and see how much fun and humane it is then? Culling is one thing chasing a defenceless sacred animal is another.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"should be banned its damn cruel there must be a more humain way to deal with foxes"

It is banned...and the humain way is,they shoot them,and lots of them too,far more than the packs of dogs ever got. I don't agree with killing anything for fun....but can someone please tell Mr fox this,especially the one that kill 17 of my chickens and only took 1.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"should be banned its damn cruel there must be a more humain way to deal with foxes

It is banned...and the humain way is,they shoot them,and lots of them too,far more than the packs of dogs ever got. I don't agree with killing anything for fun....but can someone please tell Mr fox this,especially the one that kill 17 of my chickens and only took 1."

Trouble is they are animals that's the way they are, we're supposed to be human but tend to act like animals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it would be fun to dress one of the hunt guys as a fox along with scent allow 10 minutes head start and hunt him/her in the same manner and see how much fun and humane it is then? Culling is one thing chasing a defenceless sacred animal is another."

Well done you just described hunting with bloodhounds except we normally give our runner a 30 min head start

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

Had the same for years with the foxes in my hen run set dogs on the lot of them if i had my way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a dog eat dog world hugs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible.

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

marquis of _icky999 rules.

no1. only two participants, 1 person, 1 fox.

no2. chase must be conducted on foot.

no3 . if the fox goes to ground person has to climb in after them.

no4. do not mention fox club.

tally ho!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"should be banned its damn cruel there must be a more humain way to deal with foxes

It is banned...and the humain way is,they shoot them,and lots of them too,far more than the packs of dogs ever got. I don't agree with killing anything for fun....but can someone please tell Mr fox this,especially the one that kill 17 of my chickens and only took 1."

Actually if undisturbed they would remove every single chicken and go and bury them- thus creating a "larder" for themselves.

And a point of order for some of the above posts.

"Bagging" is the practise of catch and release of a fox in alien territory, "cubbing" is entirely different- that is the pre hunting-season training and exercise of the pack.

Hunting Pink is not worn by every hunt but most have some members entitled to wear them- its to do with etiquette.

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall


"Its a fun sport for dicks on horseback masquerading as a necessity.

I may not live in the sticks but I know bollocks when I see it. spot on! very well put.....and made me laugh!"

Couldn't have put it better myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a keen animal lover I detest any form of Blood Sports!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I support Oscar Wilde's view. "

I hadn't heard it before, so I googled it to see for myself:


"The English country gentleman galloping after a fox – the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable"

Which leads me to talk a little about, and quote the pro-hunting article I just read that in:


"Most people asked to come up with a quote about hunting would offer Oscar Wilde’s description of “The English country gentleman galloping after a fox – the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable” from the play A Woman of No Importance. There is no argument that it is a typically clever line. It is worth noting, however, that it is delivered by an unpleasant character called Lord Illingworth who, in the same scene, decries democracy and promotes slavery."

It counters with another quote:


"I prefer a quote which I have never managed to definitively source, but which sums up the whole anti-hunting campaign, and the problems that hunting faces: “They don’t hate us because we are cruel. They call us cruel because they hate us”"

The article in full for anyone who's interested:

https://huntingoffice.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/oscar-wilde-and-why-they-hate-us/

My thoughts on this are, when it comes to opposing the evil of the fox hunt, don't be a sheep (because sheep are of course, a poor choice of being to be championing the fox), don't simply assume that making a poignant quote will be enough, because you can always count on some slippery bastard on the other side of the fence having heard it before. Think about the deeper nature of what it is you are in opposition to, and build your argument from there - personally I've always said, a properly organised and (this is the crucial part) HUMANE culling of animals is acceptable in my eyes if it's done for the greater good of the collective, ie, for the protection of other wildlife, the environment and of course our own interests such as food, charging after a terrified beast for fun, having a merry old time with your mates and then having your dogs tear it into gory pieces isn't, this practice isn't simply a barbaric act of unleashed passion and ferocity, it's a pre-planned, calculated act of malice to gain a dark, wretched form of pleasure.

We do not have dominion over the animals, for we are simply another species of them, they do not exist for our pleasure and benefit, they are our neighbours, and should be treated as such, deserving the same respect and compassion as anyone else in your community. Hunting for sport in a society with no shortage of food and resources is an evil, twisted pursuit, and no rational argument can be made for it's existence among a supposedly civilised species such a humankind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sport" hunting is a sickness, a perversion and a danger, and should be recognised as such. People who get their 'amusement' from hunting and killing defenceless animals can only be suffering from a mental disorder. In a world with boundless opportunities for amusement, it's detestable that anyone would choose to get thrills from killing those who ask for nothing but the chance to remain alive" - Sir Roger Moore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""Sport" hunting is a sickness, a perversion and a danger, and should be recognised as such. People who get their 'amusement' from hunting and killing defenceless animals can only be suffering from a mental disorder. In a world with boundless opportunities for amusement, it's detestable that anyone would choose to get thrills from killing those who ask for nothing but the chance to remain alive" - Sir Roger Moore."

Which brings me to a quote from another article:


"'hose people, they don't care about the fox,' snaps a belligerent woman. 'They just think we're toffs and want us to stop having fun."

Amazing how someone can damn themselves with a line intended for defence eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Look wether we like it or not foxes are a pest and farmers have to protect their crops our food ,the practice of hunting has been a tradition for hundreds of years as was hanging and hang draw and quartering but their comes a time when things have to end because they are barbaric ,cull the fox population in the humane way with a rifle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""Sport" hunting is a sickness, a perversion and a danger, and should be recognised as such. People who get their 'amusement' from hunting and killing defenceless animals can only be suffering from a mental disorder. In a world with boundless opportunities for amusement, it's detestable that anyone would choose to get thrills from killing those who ask for nothing but the chance to remain alive" - Sir Roger Moore."
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I think we've been doing blood sports for a long long time, it's certainly a strange thing to do looking from the outside in!

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over a year ago


"Look wether we like it or not foxes are a pest and farmers have to protect their crops our food ,the practice of hunting has been a tradition for hundreds of years as was hanging and hang draw and quartering but their comes a time when things have to end because they are barbaric ,cull the fox population in the humane way with a rifle "

That reminds of a quote I once read

'Tradition: Just because it's old, doesn't mean it's not stupid'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All the people on here who have never spent a day understanding what hunting with hounds actually does cant really have a view. Enough said...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Human kinds want to kill, shows how little we have evolved from our own animal past.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All the people on here who have never spent a day understanding what hunting with hounds actually does cant really have a view. Enough said..."

Anyone on here who doesn't have compassion for animals can't really have a view.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As right across England it's the opening meet for the fox hounds who's going and who does not understand hunting ?"

Takes 1 dumb animal to kill another !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm very sure it would be all over the news if the pack of bloodhounds I have hunted with tear the human runner limb from limb when they catch him. i have also seen a video recently of a pack of fox hounds out on hound exercise who find a fawn in the long grass. Did they tear it limb from limb no. It was even seen running amongst the hounds. Fox hunting that goes on today is only loosely based on the traditional principals from the past and actually hardly catches any foxes. The pleasure comes from the thril of riding horses over some amazing countryside and views you might not ordinarily get to see. Bringing in ban 10 years ago was a complete waste of time. The law itself has so many loop holes in IMO they banned the wrong thing they should've revised the anti cruelty laws

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All the people on here who have never spent a day understanding what hunting with hounds actually does cant really have a view. Enough said..."

That's rather like saying because I can't cook, I have no right to decide whether or not I like the food in my mouth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All the people on here who have never spent a day understanding what hunting with hounds actually does cant really have a view. Enough said...

That's rather like saying because I can't cook, I have no right to decide whether or not I like the food in my mouth."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All the people on here who have never spent a day understanding what hunting with hounds actually does cant really have a view. Enough said...

That's rather like saying because I can't cook, I have no right to decide whether or not I like the food in my mouth."
look if you can't cook you have no rights fullstop

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By *uper GranWoman
over a year ago

Lichfield


"All the people on here who have never spent a day understanding what hunting with hounds actually does cant really have a view. Enough said..."

It doesn't take much to understand dumfucks enjoy watching dogs rip a fox apart. The majority of intelligent farmers shoot pests as its quicker less time consuming and lets them leave the village idiot in the village not on horseback.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All the people on here who have never spent a day understanding what hunting with hounds actually does cant really have a view. Enough said..."

Been along thought it was cruel and inefficient. Your logic is however very flawed as to the reasons above.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are more foxes run over by cars than killed on hunts so are you going to start blaming people who drive. Maybe we should ban cars next

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By *hessycplCouple
over a year ago

Chesterfield


"The pleasure comes from the thril of riding horses over some amazing countryside and views you might not ordinarily get to see. "

Speaking as a landowner who allows the local hunt on our land, this will slowly be what ends hunting. The only people I allow on our land are the actual hunt master and whipper in. Too many times now have the 'followers' spoke to me like I'm something one the bottom of thier boots, had total disregard to my property. The only reason they are allowed on at present is the discounted rate I get for removal of my fallen stock (thats now not far off the same cost as my local knackerman now so the days are numbered there too). They used to be around here 4/5 times a year, now they are lucky to get here twice, mainly due to lack of available ground to hunt over, was told by the hunt master last year that if 1 more farmer in the area denys permission then they won't be able to come in this area.

My local hunt hasn't caught anything in years in this area, and I doubt they ever will. Last year they were disgusted when I refused permission for them do dig out one which had 'gone to ground' Sorry but the fox had won that one.

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By *awnmistMan
over a year ago

Wrexham

Folk who go hunting do not understand hunting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The pleasure comes from the thril of riding horses over some amazing countryside and views you might not ordinarily get to see.

Speaking as a landowner who allows the local hunt on our land, this will slowly be what ends hunting. The only people I allow on our land are the actual hunt master and whipper in. Too many times now have the 'followers' spoke to me like I'm something one the bottom of thier boots, had total disregard to my property. The only reason they are allowed on at present is the discounted rate I get for removal of my fallen stock (thats now not far off the same cost as my local knackerman now so the days are numbered there too). They used to be around here 4/5 times a year, now they are lucky to get here twice, mainly due to lack of available ground to hunt over, was told by the hunt master last year that if 1 more farmer in the area denys permission then they won't be able to come in this area.

My local hunt hasn't caught anything in years in this area, and I doubt they ever will. Last year they were disgusted when I refused permission for them do dig out one which had 'gone to ground' Sorry but the fox had won that one."

Sadly some people in all walks of life have no manners. Digging out I dont like. I agree fox won!!

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"As right across England it's the opening meet for the fox hounds who's going and who does not understand hunting ?

I understand hunting, I've been doing it all my life.

Setting a pack of dogs on a Fox is not hunting, it's cruelty in the name of pest control."

spot on iv been hunting since I was a kid and would never want to see an animal suffer.

the excuse of fox hunting with hounds as pest control is a fucking joke because chasing one fox isn't anywhere near as effective as a group of hunters with rifles who might shoot 15 Foxes a night.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hunting is the acquisition of food.

Fox hunting is pest control in a very inefficient way just for the supposed enjoyment and a good ride out. A half decent gamekeeper bags more foxes with less effort than any hunt ever did. "

speaking of pests, there's a tw@t in a chelsea tractor that has land grabbed some woodland near me. can i set a pack of hounds on him?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are more foxes run over by cars than killed on hunts so are you going to start blaming people who drive. Maybe we should ban cars next "

If crushing foxes beneath the wheels of a car was considered an organised sport rather than an unfortunate hazard of country driving then you may have had something resembling a point there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My local hunt hasn't caught anything in years in this area, and I doubt they ever will. Last year they were disgusted when I refused permission for them do dig out one which had 'gone to ground' Sorry but the fox had won that one."

Wow...

It makes me think of the roman coliseums, frequented by those of such wealth and prestige, that they'd burned out so many other pleasures that money could buy, and all that was left was the desire to see two men utterly dehumanised, battling to the death in the name of 'entertainment'...decadence having grown so thick and black that only the brutal sight of death and savagery could bring forth any pleasure.

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley


"My local hunt hasn't caught anything in years in this area, and I doubt they ever will. Last year they were disgusted when I refused permission for them do dig out one which had 'gone to ground' Sorry but the fox had won that one.

Wow...

It makes me think of the roman coliseums, frequented by those of such wealth and prestige, that they'd burned out so many other pleasures that money could buy, and all that was left was the desire to see two men utterly dehumanised, battling to the death in the name of 'entertainment'...decadence having grown so thick and black that only the brutal sight of death and savagery could bring forth any pleasure."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My local hunt hasn't caught anything in years in this area, and I doubt they ever will. Last year they were disgusted when I refused permission for them do dig out one which had 'gone to ground' Sorry but the fox had won that one.

Wow...

It makes me think of the roman coliseums, frequented by those of such wealth and prestige, that they'd burned out so many other pleasures that money could buy, and all that was left was the desire to see two men utterly dehumanised, battling to the death in the name of 'entertainment'...decadence having grown so thick and black that only the brutal sight of death and savagery could bring forth any pleasure."

I have 2 horses doesn't make me wealthy. Just goes to show how wrong people's perceptions are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no defence for mans' inhumanity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Human kinds want to kill, shows how little we have evolved from our own animal past."
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The animals that are clever, do have a habit of being sadistic!.

I think being really clever should allow you to realise you have a sadistic side and do something about it!.

We haven't evolved, we've been around what! 200,000 years?

Were a million years away from the next evolutionary jump!

What we've got it what we're wasting... A big powerful brain, opposing thumbs and a good larynx!

Look around, you think swinging is a sign of some sort of fucking genius!

Were on the precipice my friend looking over!

Personally I think we're inherently fucked as a species by those very tools!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is really simple. foxes breed once a year. its been done before in towns where there's been a problem. and the answer is to feed the foxes. and at the right time of year add contraceptive into there food. simple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I'm against blood sports such as this.

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over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol"

lol? you think its funny?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol"

Perhaps because like so many animals, it's a predator, and feelings such as mercy and compassion would be detrimental to it's existence. Humans however (well, many of us) have a well developed and fine tuned emotional radar that allows us to care for those other than ourselves, we call this 'compassion/empathy', and only through this radar were we able to survive the countless challenges that faced our race throughout the millions of brutal years, and somehow grow to the point that we have now. To choose not to care and respect others, is to choose to not be human.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

Perhaps because like so many animals, it's a predator, and feelings such as mercy and compassion would be detrimental to it's existence. Humans however (well, many of us) have a well developed and fine tuned emotional radar that allows us to care for those other than ourselves, we call this 'compassion/empathy', and only through this radar were we able to survive the countless challenges that faced our race throughout the millions of brutal years, and somehow grow to the point that we have now. To choose not to care and respect others, is to choose to not be human."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A fox is from the canine family so in my mind fox hunting is dog fighting for the upper class and that is me being polite I would have a forum ban if I spoke my mind

Enough said

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

Perhaps because like so many animals, it's a predator, and feelings such as mercy and compassion would be detrimental to it's existence. Humans however (well, many of us) have a well developed and fine tuned emotional radar that allows us to care for those other than ourselves, we call this 'compassion/empathy', and only through this radar were we able to survive the countless challenges that faced our race throughout the millions of brutal years, and somehow grow to the point that we have now. To choose not to care and respect others, is to choose to not be human."

Your brain is more than sexy sir.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol"

Is that because the dirty human vermin leave their trash about to encourage them and have encroached and built on all the countryside be grateful its not bears or alligators like they have in the U.S.A. for the same reasons

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fox is from the canine family so in my mind fox hunting is dog fighting for the upper class and that is me being polite I would have a forum ban if I spoke my mind

Enough said "

There you go we are all upper class ha ha so stupid!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Happy St.Huberts day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Had the same for years with the foxes in my hen run set dogs on the lot of them if i had my way"

try building a decent run for your chucks and you wouldn't have this problem. I never did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Had the same for years with the foxes in my hen run set dogs on the lot of them if i had my way

try building a decent run for your chucks and you wouldn't have this problem. I never did."

Same here, the foxes take their chickens and the continue to keep the run exactly the same. Ever heard of learning from your mistakes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fox is from the canine family so in my mind fox hunting is dog fighting for the upper class and that is me being polite I would have a forum ban if I spoke my mind

Enough said

There you go we are all upper class ha ha so stupid!"

I said upper class because I didn't want to insult people by saying scum of the earth with an unnaturally high level of testosterone coursing through their veins apologies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fox is from the canine family so in my mind fox hunting is dog fighting for the upper class and that is me being polite I would have a forum ban if I spoke my mind

Enough said

There you go we are all upper class ha ha so stupid!

I said upper class because I didn't want to insult people by saying scum of the earth with an unnaturally high level of testosterone coursing through their veins apologies "

You are confusing money with class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fox is from the canine family so in my mind fox hunting is dog fighting for the upper class and that is me being polite I would have a forum ban if I spoke my mind

Enough said

There you go we are all upper class ha ha so stupid!

I said upper class because I didn't want to insult people by saying scum of the earth with an unnaturally high level of testosterone coursing through their veins apologies "

Appology excepted..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fox is from the canine family so in my mind fox hunting is dog fighting for the upper class and that is me being polite I would have a forum ban if I spoke my mind

Enough said

There you go we are all upper class ha ha so stupid!

I said upper class because I didn't want to insult people by saying scum of the earth with an unnaturally high level of testosterone coursing through their veins apologies

You are confusing money with class."

Really not quite sure how would you care to elaborate on that statement?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

lol? you think its funny? "

Its like silence of the lambs some nights. I hate the screams of the birds being ripped to bits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

lol? you think its funny?

Its like silence of the lambs some nights. I hate the screams of the birds being ripped to bits"

All part of the wonderful world of Nature

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fox is from the canine family so in my mind fox hunting is dog fighting for the upper class and that is me being polite I would have a forum ban if I spoke my mind

Enough said

There you go we are all upper class ha ha so stupid!

I said upper class because I didn't want to insult people by saying scum of the earth with an unnaturally high level of testosterone coursing through their veins apologies

Appology excepted.. "

Pleased you sensed my tongue in cheek sarcasm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From my experience not much money on the hunt these days. The odd bit of old money clinging onto tradition but not like it used to be.

Most of the people who frequent our Livery are thankfully not interested in it either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

lol? you think its funny?

Its like silence of the lambs some nights. I hate the screams of the birds being ripped to bits

All part of the wonderful world of Nature"
exactly the foxes are just surviving but it's like everything in life the strongest more intelligent predators win and the fox is the loser here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

lol? you think its funny?

Its like silence of the lambs some nights. I hate the screams of the birds being ripped to bits

All part of the wonderful world of Nature exactly the foxes are just surviving but it's like everything in life the strongest more intelligent predators win and the fox is the loser here "

Well thats you off my Christmas card list you meanie and strongest doesn't necessarily mean more intelligent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

lol? you think its funny?

Its like silence of the lambs some nights. I hate the screams of the birds being ripped to bits

All part of the wonderful world of Nature exactly the foxes are just surviving but it's like everything in life the strongest more intelligent predators win and the fox is the loser here "

We all play the fox at some point in our lives, and I feel the same way when I see a homeless person in the street - no one is invincible. I remember once reading a saying that moved me deeply

'Be the change that you want to see in the world'

We all have our moments of strength and weakness, and so by showing compassion for those who are going through hardship, I PROVE that there is kindness in the world, and people willing to lend a hand, and it offers me reassurance that in my own dark times, there might just be someone willing to help me find my way to somewhere where the skies are blue and the grass is green again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wish I could hunt the hunters with a pair of scissors in hand

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By *nfamyMan
over a year ago

Goole


"Its a fun sport for dicks on horseback masquerading as a necessity.

I may not live in the sticks but I know bollocks when I see it."

I agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

lol? you think its funny?

Its like silence of the lambs some nights. I hate the screams of the birds being ripped to bits

All part of the wonderful world of Nature exactly the foxes are just surviving but it's like everything in life the strongest more intelligent predators win and the fox is the loser here

We all play the fox at some point in our lives, and I feel the same way when I see a homeless person in the street - no one is invincible. I remember once reading a saying that moved me deeply

'Be the change that you want to see in the world'

We all have our moments of strength and weakness, and so by showing compassion for those who are going through hardship, I PROVE that there is kindness in the world, and people willing to lend a hand, and it offers me reassurance that in my own dark times, there might just be someone willing to help me find my way to somewhere where the skies are blue and the grass is green again."
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Survival of the fittest!!

It's strange how that line always gets bantered about by well... Fit people.

Of course Darwin actually only wrote about a page on it, there's page after page after page dedicated to mankind's ability to actually look after one another, because in reality, singularly were a pretty shit species, however when we work together, were pretty shit hot!.

There's a spore or a fungus I remember watching on a doc, where all the bits come together as one to create a singular creature, it's the only way it can multiply by throwing out it's off spring, nature is very very fascinating at times!

Homosapians are a relatively new species, 200,000 years is fuck all in the grand scale of things, crocodiles haven't evolved in millions of years because in reality they don't need to.

I'm a firm beliver in technology will be our saviour or our curse

We can choose which outcome but going off the evidence, I don't think we are capable unless pushed!

For all my love of freedom, I personally think it's the worse fucking thing for mankind as were inherently destructive by nature and our evolutionary growth is being massively overtaken taken by technologies evolution.

You see people say they love their kids but then tell them a problem like climate change which means them actually sacrificing something for their kids and whammo....

No fucking way, they can't even give up carry bags ffs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fox hunting Is more of a class/culteral issue.

If we want to talk cruelty to animals maybe we should look at a lot of (pet)Owners.

Who have no issue keeping birds caged,social animals kept on their own whilst they go to work.

There are lots of things done to animals in the name of religon which I find offensive.

anway rant over

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By *ercaDona74Couple
over a year ago

Brough near Hull


"Hunting is the acquisition of food.

Fox hunting is pest control in a very inefficient way just for the supposed enjoyment and a good ride out. A half decent gamekeeper bags more foxes with less effort than any hunt ever did. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

lol? you think its funny?

Its like silence of the lambs some nights. I hate the screams of the birds being ripped to bits"

if its night how do you know what's making the nose? have you ever heard foxes mating? first time I heard it I thought someone was been murdered. I doubt you know what your talking about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol

lol? you think its funny?

Its like silence of the lambs some nights. I hate the screams of the birds being ripped to bits

All part of the wonderful world of Nature exactly the foxes are just surviving but it's like everything in life the strongest more intelligent predators win and the fox is the loser here

Well thats you off my Christmas card list you meanie and strongest doesn't necessarily mean more intelligent "
hey I couldn't personally kill a fox I'm just saying they are the loser ,it's because somehow they successfully increase their numbers and pillage and scavenge and ultimately they have to lose look at the Colorado beetle ,the piranha fish ,the rat anything that is successful at breeding and eating things we as humans need has to die ,it is the law of nature also things that spread disease

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like humans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is really simple. foxes breed once a year. its been done before in towns where there's been a problem. and the answer is to feed the foxes. and at the right time of year add contraceptive into there food. simple. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's cruel end of. The are more humane ways of culling them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like humans "
well yes and we kill each other to xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fox hunting Is more of a class/culteral issue.

If we want to talk cruelty to animals maybe we should look at a lot of (pet)Owners.

Who have no issue keeping birds caged,social animals kept on their own whilst they go to work.

There are lots of things done to animals in the name of religon which I find offensive.

anway rant over "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everytime you kill a Fox, you leave the territory open for another Fox, so the pest control argument is obsolete, it's a never ending circle and a pointless endeavour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also, somebody was rattling on about " crops", foxes do not bother crops, they keep down the number of herbivores that do, if only the Farmers could see them as a friend who helps and just put more effort into protecting their livestock properly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I live in the country and I won't deny I do love seeing the hunt when there out and about, only because I like seeing the hounds! (I do love those kinds of dogs!) and yeah I like seeing the guys and girls on their horses BUT I don't agree with the end result.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like humans well yes and we kill each other to xx "

And scavange and spread disease

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fox hunting Is more of a class/culteral issue.

If we want to talk cruelty to animals maybe we should look at a lot of (pet)Owners.

Who have no issue keeping birds caged,social animals kept on their own whilst they go to work.

There are lots of things done to animals in the name of religon which I find offensive.

anway rant over "

Erm, what is done to animals in the name of religion? Except halal, which does not really apply to foxes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As right across England it's the opening meet for the fox hounds who's going and who does not understand hunting ?"

How typically arrogant - assuming because people don't 'hunt' they don't understand it...

Or just attention seeking toddler outburst???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fox hunting Is more of a class/culteral issue.

If we want to talk cruelty to animals maybe we should look at a lot of (pet)Owners.

Who have no issue keeping birds caged,social animals kept on their own whilst they go to work.

There are lots of things done to animals in the name of religon which I find offensive.

anway rant over

"

Yes there is, but this thread is specifically about Foxhunting, the other cruelty doesn't make hunting Foxes ok.! Rant over.

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

i think people that enjoy inflicting needless suffering on animals for their own pleasure are sick in the head and i hope they die a long and painful death

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As right across England it's the opening meet for the fox hounds who's going and who does not understand hunting ?

I understand hunting, I've been doing it all my life.

Setting a pack of dogs on a Fox is not hunting, it's cruelty in the name of pest control."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live next to a park and see foxes regually catch a bird and they rip their wings out first leaving the birds screaming in agony and fear. The fox dont seem disracted at all/

fuck the vermon bin rading scum lol"

I watched a documentary once and a great white shark ate a seal! Kill all great white sharks!!!

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

i don't understand foxhunting. Never even been on a horse, talked to a pony once and was sneezing for hours. However... I have no issue witb foxhunting, the traditional kind before they banned it. Not something i would do myself bui I support the 'each to thier own' principle and tradition matters more to me than the lives of a few hundred foxes or the general principle of animal cruelty- another thing i never understood.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fox hunting Is more of a class/culteral issue.

If we want to talk cruelty to animals maybe we should look at a lot of (pet)Owners.

Who have no issue keeping birds caged,social animals kept on their own whilst they go to work.

There are lots of things done to animals in the name of religon which I find offensive.

anway rant over

Yes there is, but this thread is specifically about Foxhunting, the other cruelty doesn't make hunting Foxes ok.! Rant over."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok i concede the red coat bit but must say if you stood on any high street in this country dressed in your pinks (wtf its red) and asked jo public what was your hobby not one would say tennis, the majority would say fox hunting,it is still obscene if you was wearing a pink tutu

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So many people find this subject distasteful and it really gets their backs up especially the ladies its another subject best left in room 101 bad feeling is best left somewhere else ,maybe in Hal kayeedas dressing room hugs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://jamesbarrington.wordpress.com/2015/10/26/hunting-for-the-truth/

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"The attire is irrelevant. Fyi not everyone wears red coats- certain hunt staff-including the master, and those that have been invited to, wear it. The dress code is not the point.

Neither is the wealth.

Its the way the fox dies.

I have worked in hunting and those that perpetuate the myth that it is anything less than inhumane are deluded."

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

Removing predators has proven time and time again to be a terrible pest control solution, and there are rabbits, rats and squirrels all over the uk - eradicate the fox, and the prey population explodes. Then you get real crop devastation and disease.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"https://jamesbarrington.wordpress.com/2015/10/26/hunting-for-the-truth/"

Article smacks heavily of right wing bias to me, interestingly steering well clear of any 'fun' element regarding hunting with hounds.

Wonder why?

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By *ildt123Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield

I Live in the country (ish) and have a horse and fox hunting is one of the few occasions when the dick is on top rather than under the horse imho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its a vile disgusting activity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Removing predators has proven time and time again to be a terrible pest control solution, and there are rabbits, rats and squirrels all over the uk - eradicate the fox, and the prey population explodes. Then you get real crop devastation and disease.

"

But every fucker with an air rifle can go hunt those 3 things.

That keeps the numbers down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i don't understand foxhunting. Never even been on a horse, talked to a pony once and was sneezing for hours. However... I have no issue witb foxhunting, the traditional kind before they banned it. Not something i would do myself bui I support the 'each to thier own' principle and tradition matters more to me than the lives of a few hundred foxes or the general principle of animal cruelty- another thing i never understood."

So just out of interest do you not understand why dog fighting is banned? after all they are only dog and if people want to fight them 'each to their own', do you not understand the need for organisations such as the RSPCA? What part of animal cruelty are you struggling to understand?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i don't understand foxhunting. Never even been on a horse, talked to a pony once and was sneezing for hours. However... I have no issue witb foxhunting, the traditional kind before they banned it. Not something i would do myself bui I support the 'each to thier own' principle and tradition matters more to me than the lives of a few hundred foxes or the general principle of animal cruelty- another thing i never understood."

I had to read this twice.

You have no issue with something you don't understand?

Ok.

Principle and tradition matters more than the general principle of animal cruelty which is something else you don't understand?

Ok.

Genuine question. Are you high?

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By *helbeeCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton

Fox hunting im against its outdated, cruel an im sorry im for the fox, its sick an i will not associate with anyone who likes fox hunting. Im for animal welfare an animal rights. How is it fair to set a pack of hounds to rip a fox to pieces, its barbaric

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fox hunting im against its outdated, cruel an im sorry im for the fox, its sick an i will not associate with anyone who likes fox hunting. Im for animal welfare an animal rights. How is it fair to set a pack of hounds to rip a fox to pieces, its barbaric

"
I'm against it as well but for the hounds is it not a natural response ?

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By *helbeeCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton


"Fox hunting im against its outdated, cruel an im sorry im for the fox, its sick an i will not associate with anyone who likes fox hunting. Im for animal welfare an animal rights. How is it fair to set a pack of hounds to rip a fox to pieces, its barbaric

I'm against it as well but for the hounds is it not a natural response ? "

no it isnt a natural response for the hounds at all

its the humans who teach them to fox hunt also did u know if the hound is no good they shoot it,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Natural er no.

Predators, hunters (dogs)(wolves)

do not generally hunt similar species.

Your "natural" is simply years of in breeding. They hunt fox because we tell them to hunt fox.

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By *helbeeCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton


"Natural er no.

Predators, hunters (dogs)(wolves)

do not generally hunt similar species.

Your "natural" is simply years of in breeding. They hunt fox because we tell them to hunt fox. "

not arguing with you. Fox hunting has no place in modern society , its cruel an barbaric end of story

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I should hope not as we've both agreed to the same point.

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By *indandfireCouple
over a year ago

ashbourne

New quote" the uneducated pontificating about a mystery"

This is an age old debate and most of the people with strong views against something are the ones with least actual knowledge or understanding, as per usual. It's almost as entertaining as a thread on bareback sex where those with no knowledge castigate others over their choices....when their lack of knowledge puts them at exactly the same risk as the barebackers.

My advice...keep quiet unless you are completely accurate with your facts or you will simply be taken for the fool that you are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fox hunting im against its outdated, cruel an im sorry im for the fox, its sick an i will not associate with anyone who likes fox hunting. Im for animal welfare an animal rights. How is it fair to set a pack of hounds to rip a fox to pieces, its barbaric

I'm against it as well but for the hounds is it not a natural response ?

no it isnt a natural response for the hounds at all

its the humans who teach them to fox hunt also did u know if the hound is no good they shoot it, "
I've never had anything to do with it and really had no interest to find out about it either ok so the dogs hounds are trained to do it ,so that's even worse ,I think then the hounds and the fox bit should definitely be taken out and the toffs should just ride their horses indiscriminately through the countryside

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who are you Einstein then?

How much educating do you think people need?

You seem to be assumimg you're much cleverer than every one else.

Typical reaction.

You don't like what someone says so they must be some kind of inbred toothless troglodyte?

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By *indandfireCouple
over a year ago

ashbourne

Any of you with the extensive dog knowledge ever owned a hound of any type?...,,thought not. Try stoping them trailing a scent. That's what they are doing not "hunting" as you describe it. You need a lot of training to get them to stop lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So what?

There are probably tens of thousands of hounds in the uk.

They're not all trained to scent foxes.

Dogs don't fucking hunt dogs in the wild.

You are talking about 400 years of indoctrinated cruelty. Not the natural (inbred) characteristics of dogs.

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By *indandfireCouple
over a year ago

ashbourne


"So what?

There are probably tens of thousands of hounds in the uk.

They're not all trained to scent foxes.

Dogs don't fucking hunt dogs in the wild.

You are talking about 400 years of indoctrinated cruelty. Not the natural (inbred) characteristics of dogs.

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By *indandfireCouple
over a year ago

ashbourne


"So what?

There are probably tens of thousands of hounds in the uk.

They're not all trained to scent foxes.

Dogs don't fucking hunt dogs in the wild.

You are talking about 400 years of indoctrinated cruelty. Not the natural (inbred) characteristics of dogs.

"

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By *indandfireCouple
over a year ago

ashbourne


"So what?

There are probably tens of thousands of hounds in the uk.

They're not all trained to scent foxes.

Dogs don't fucking hunt dogs in the wild.

You are talking about 400 years of indoctrinated cruelty. Not the natural (inbred) characteristics of dogs.

"

There we go the typical response of the educated knowledgeable person .... Use the "F" word and totally inappropriately too. I know this is a silly question on a swingers site.... Do you know what fuck means? It is a verb, a doing word, not punctuation or a pause for your brain to catch up with your mouth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Were country folk. Hunter gatherers.chasing a fox till it drops dead with exhaustion or gets caught is not my idea of pest control plenty of other methods. Imagine yourself out on the african plain being chased by a pack of wild hunting dogs. Being eaten whilest still alive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes you couldn't reply to the actual post so you deflected by bringing up my use of the word "fucking"

Genius

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By *helbeeCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton

Hunting is very cruel how would u like to be chased by a group of lions an then ripped to pieces same principle. ..think how it is for the fox an the fox feels

scared , an hounded an being chased

An having a pack of hounds set on it

its sick an twisted an anyone who thinks this is ok has a sick mind. There are other humane ways of dealing with the fox population, instead of the barbaric way.

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By *indandfireCouple
over a year ago

ashbourne


"Yes you couldn't reply to the actual post so you deflected by bringing up my use of the word "fucking"

Genius "

Well give me the weapons and I will use them. I could answer your post at length and point out the inaccuracies of most of the anti comments. I could explain dog and hound breeding genetics and natural instinct. I could also describe the sight of a fox shot with poor aim by a frustrated farmer or hen keeper, dying a long death of lead poisoning or blood loss. Or a fox baited with poison again dying slowly in agony. Or the sight of a mangy sick fox moved to town to live off bins made more sick by inappropriate diet. I could explain the fact that hunting ensures that the animals culled are the weak and sick, more likely to raid hen houses and lambs, whilst the healthy and smart get away ensuring strong healthy breeding stock to keep the breed going strong....

But someone who resorts to swearing isn't hear to listen and learn, they are here to shout and bully and override others, so I will save my breath

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fully understand it and fully understand its the worst waybof controlling foxes.

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By *helbeeCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton


"Yes you couldn't reply to the actual post so you deflected by bringing up my use of the word "fucking"

Genius

Well give me the weapons and I will use them. I could answer your post at length and point out the inaccuracies of most of the anti comments. I could explain dog and hound breeding genetics and natural instinct. I could also describe the sight of a fox shot with poor aim by a frustrated farmer or hen keeper, dying a long death of lead poisoning or blood loss. Or a fox baited with poison again dying slowly in agony. Or the sight of a mangy sick fox moved to town to live off bins made more sick by inappropriate diet. I could explain the fact that hunting ensures that the animals culled are the weak and sick, more likely to raid hen houses and lambs, whilst the healthy and smart get away ensuring strong healthy breeding stock to keep the breed going strong....

But someone who resorts to swearing isn't hear to listen and learn, they are here to shout and bully and override others, so I will save my breath"

nor do i agree with shooting a fox or poisoning a fox either. Very barbaric ways would you like to be poisoined

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


" Few are as if you have ever owned a horse you would know they litrally eat money!!!"

Literally ? That can't be good for them.

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By *indandfireCouple
over a year ago

ashbourne


"Yes you couldn't reply to the actual post so you deflected by bringing up my use of the word "fucking"

Genius

Well give me the weapons and I will use them. I could answer your post at length and point out the inaccuracies of most of the anti comments. I could explain dog and hound breeding genetics and natural instinct. I could also describe the sight of a fox shot with poor aim by a frustrated farmer or hen keeper, dying a long death of lead poisoning or blood loss. Or a fox baited with poison again dying slowly in agony. Or the sight of a mangy sick fox moved to town to live off bins made more sick by inappropriate diet. I could explain the fact that hunting ensures that the animals culled are the weak and sick, more likely to raid hen houses and lambs, whilst the healthy and smart get away ensuring strong healthy breeding stock to keep the breed going strong....

But someone who resorts to swearing isn't hear to listen and learn, they are here to shout and bully and override others, so I will save my breath

nor do i agree with shooting a fox or poisoning a fox either. Very barbaric ways would you like to be poisoined"

But are you happy with lambs and hens being slaughtered not for food but just as instinct. Because it isn't fable foxes do kill more birds than they could eat in months on one night... And the same the next. A henhouse full of headless hens and traumatised survivors is ok? Lambs newborn killed again more than can be eaten .... Just a question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is really simple. foxes breed once a year. its been done before in towns where there's been a problem. and the answer is to feed the foxes. and at the right time of year add contraceptive into there food. simple. "

Is this to simple for you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes you couldn't reply to the actual post so you deflected by bringing up my use of the word "fucking"

Genius

Well give me the weapons and I will use them. I could answer your post at length and point out the inaccuracies of most of the anti comments. I could explain dog and hound breeding genetics and natural instinct. I could also describe the sight of a fox shot with poor aim by a frustrated farmer or hen keeper, dying a long death of lead poisoning or blood loss. Or a fox baited with poison again dying slowly in agony. Or the sight of a mangy sick fox moved to town to live off bins made more sick by inappropriate diet. I could explain the fact that hunting ensures that the animals culled are the weak and sick, more likely to raid hen houses and lambs, whilst the healthy and smart get away ensuring strong healthy breeding stock to keep the breed going strong....

But someone who resorts to swearing isn't hear to listen and learn, they are here to shout and bully and override others, so I will save my breath"

Good. I doubt you could teach me jack.

Dress it up, justify it however you like. Keep having a go. (funny how its just me eh?) Easy target?

You think because I swear that I'm uneducated and ill-informed?

Go on then. Explain to all the other "uneducated" people

the natural instincts of dogs coz i may be fik mate but Im telling you. Dogs don't hunt dogs.

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