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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Question, if a guy has sex with a pre op transgender male to female, would you consider him to be bi ,bi curious or straight?

I'm talking about very feminine ,basically a female but with a penis.

Me and Kim had a debate about this, she thinks it means the guy is bisexual, I don't. Just interested in others opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pre-op? Bi I'd say ..

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bi"

No vagina..

Still has a penis..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If its post op does that make it bi-once removed, or second bi?

Oh shit, thats cousins..I did live in norfolk for a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who needs lables sexually fluid would be my description of it was an option

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And this penis is tucked away so not visible?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question, if a guy has sex with a pre op transgender male to female, would you consider him to be bi ,bi curious or straight?

I'm talking about very feminine ,basically a female but with a penis.

Me and Kim had a debate about this, she thinks it means the guy is bisexual, I don't. Just interested in others opinions."

Did he like the fact there was still a cock? Last pre op TS i met fucked me in the ass, and it was awlright! Giggeredy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would have said Bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And this penis is tucked away so not visible?

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I would suggest if he wasn't interested in the fact that "she" still had a penis then he may as well have had sex with a genetic woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And this penis is tucked away so not visible?

I would suggest if he wasn't interested in the fact that "she" still had a penis then he may as well have had sex with a genetic woman."

Perhaps he just felt a connection and attraction to this very feminine person that was unrelated to that persons concealed penis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He would be bi, but you would be straight if it was female to male.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think he's straight, if he's attracted to someone feminine.

A penis is a male organ but it's not the thing that defines a person as themself, to themself or others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi. And it would be fun what ever label is applied

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think he's straight, if he's attracted to someone feminine.

A penis is a male organ but it's not the thing that defines a person as themself, to themself or others.

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I guess so, possibly if HRT is involved. Otherwise no matter how you dress up she's going to be obviously male in bed naked, which i'd suggest wouldn't sit well with a real straight man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think he's straight, if he's attracted to someone feminine.

A penis is a male organ but it's not the thing that defines a person as themself, to themself or others.

I guess so, possibly if HRT is involved. Otherwise no matter how you dress up she's going to be obviously male in bed naked, which i'd suggest wouldn't sit well with a real straight man. "

Personally, I don't get naked. It really fucks the illusion up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would ask how he got to that point: was the attraction formed on the basis of the other person being male, female or in full knowledge?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would ask how he got to that point: was the attraction formed on the basis of the other person being male, female or in full knowledge? "

This is the crux of it for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it matter?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does it matter?"

Ok. So there's two cruxes!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I would ask how he got to that point: was the attraction formed on the basis of the other person being male, female or in full knowledge? "

Good point , the debate was based on the guy thinking it was a female he was with up to the point of seeing the penis , then he decides to leave or carry on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So I guess it depends on how you define some ones sex.

Does wearing a dress and having boobies make you a woman. Can a woman have a penis?

I suggest that if your interested in sexual contact with the above then your probably some where in the middle of the sliding sexuality scale.

And you know what, this isn't the Middle Ages it's perfectly alright to be a man in a dress or be attracted to a man in a dress. There is actually a law that says so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would ask how he got to that point: was the attraction formed on the basis of the other person being male, female or in full knowledge?

Good point , the debate was based on the guy thinking it was a female he was with up to the point of seeing the penis , then he decides to leave or carry on."

See, at that point you also have the "fuck it, I'm here now" people. Potentially very different!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think he's straight, if he's attracted to someone feminine.

A penis is a male organ but it's not the thing that defines a person as themself, to themself or others.

I guess so, possibly if HRT is involved. Otherwise no matter how you dress up she's going to be obviously male in bed naked, which i'd suggest wouldn't sit well with a real straight man. "

You can have that opinion but i don't think hormones, organs or anything make you, you. Nothing physical makes you, you. Only for medical purposes should this even matter really.

If you want to label yourself feminine, and act or appear feminine, then that's what you are. The physical is very much an illusion, imo.

But if a guy fancies masculine women i don't think that makes him gay although it might do. Confusing, we need new words or something.

As it is now men fancying men makes them bi/gay, but we are just basing people on being men from their physical make up and ignoring what really counts, which is how they really feel about what they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think he's straight, if he's attracted to someone feminine.

A penis is a male organ but it's not the thing that defines a person as themself, to themself or others.

I guess so, possibly if HRT is involved. Otherwise no matter how you dress up she's going to be obviously male in bed naked, which i'd suggest wouldn't sit well with a real straight man.

You can have that opinion but i don't think hormones, organs or anything make you, you. Nothing physical makes you, you. Only for medical purposes should this even matter really.

If you want to label yourself feminine, and act or appear feminine, then that's what you are. The physical is very much an illusion, imo.

But if a guy fancies masculine women i don't think that makes him gay although it might do. Confusing, we need new words or something.

As it is now men fancying men makes them bi/gay, but we are just basing people on being men from their physical make up and ignoring what really counts, which is how they really feel about what they are."

Interesting point. But as it's from a woman I'm not sure how valid it is. I don't think a woman knows how a straight man thinks.

If Brian blessed decided he was transgender I'm not sure how many straight men would have sex with him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or, to put masculine and feminine another way;

We used to use these words to define people, to define how certain people should look, act, behave and take their place in society based solely on gender. Don't think that caught on in all aspects of society anyway.

Now we don't any more, we define ourselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Interesting point. But as it's from a woman I'm not sure how valid it is. I don't think a woman knows how a straight man thinks.

If Brian blessed decided he was transgender I'm not sure how many straight men would have sex with him."

I don't think people are that different, we're all people, all humans. I posted the above about the same time you typed your comment, and that's how i feel about it.

As a straight person myself i can see how words define things, but i can also see why they are used. If someone thinks they're feminine, and acts/behaves that way, then that's what they are. I suppose one of the problems then is that we are again basing behaviours on something.

Maybe one day we'll not care about this stuff at all because it won't matter? Don't think it really matters now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Interesting point. But as it's from a woman I'm not sure how valid it is. I don't think a woman knows how a straight man thinks.

If Brian blessed decided he was transgender I'm not sure how many straight men would have sex with him.

I don't think people are that different, we're all people, all humans. I posted the above about the same time you typed your comment, and that's how i feel about it.

As a straight person myself i can see how words define things, but i can also see why they are used. If someone thinks they're feminine, and acts/behaves that way, then that's what they are. I suppose one of the problems then is that we are again basing behaviours on something.

Maybe one day we'll not care about this stuff at all because it won't matter? Don't think it really matters now."

But the question is: is someone who has sex a preop trans person, who is the same sex as them genetically, straight? The answer is no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Slightly off topic but connected; I wish I'd accepted my dysmorphia before I put the effort into masculinising my body in the gym. I'd look a lot more like I feel if I hadn't. Not many straight guys want to play with a girl that they'd lose a fight with!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Interesting point. But as it's from a woman I'm not sure how valid it is. I don't think a woman knows how a straight man thinks.

If Brian blessed decided he was transgender I'm not sure how many straight men would have sex with him.

I don't think people are that different, we're all people, all humans. I posted the above about the same time you typed your comment, and that's how i feel about it.

As a straight person myself i can see how words define things, but i can also see why they are used. If someone thinks they're feminine, and acts/behaves that way, then that's what they are. I suppose one of the problems then is that we are again basing behaviours on something.

Maybe one day we'll not care about this stuff at all because it won't matter? Don't think it really matters now.

But the question is: is someone who has sex a preop trans person, who is the same sex as them genetically, straight? The answer is no."

They'll still genetically be the same sex after the op too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Interesting point. But as it's from a woman I'm not sure how valid it is. I don't think a woman knows how a straight man thinks.

If Brian blessed decided he was transgender I'm not sure how many straight men would have sex with him.

I don't think people are that different, we're all people, all humans. I posted the above about the same time you typed your comment, and that's how i feel about it.

As a straight person myself i can see how words define things, but i can also see why they are used. If someone thinks they're feminine, and acts/behaves that way, then that's what they are. I suppose one of the problems then is that we are again basing behaviours on something.

Maybe one day we'll not care about this stuff at all because it won't matter? Don't think it really matters now.

But the question is: is someone who has sex a preop trans person, who is the same sex as them genetically, straight? The answer is no."

Yeah but they also said they're feminine and female with a penis. So that person identifies themself as female.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My opinion is they're just a sexual person and they can label themselves any way they choose fit. Others will rush to judge but fuck em.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Straight because it's the female form you are attracted to . The penis is there but if it's not part of the attraction it's straight .

If you suck the cock , then bi .

If you wank it bi curious .

If you just fuck the t girl and ignore the cock , straight .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Interesting point. But as it's from a woman I'm not sure how valid it is. I don't think a woman knows how a straight man thinks.

If Brian blessed decided he was transgender I'm not sure how many straight men would have sex with him.

I don't think people are that different, we're all people, all humans. I posted the above about the same time you typed your comment, and that's how i feel about it.

As a straight person myself i can see how words define things, but i can also see why they are used. If someone thinks they're feminine, and acts/behaves that way, then that's what they are. I suppose one of the problems then is that we are again basing behaviours on something.

Maybe one day we'll not care about this stuff at all because it won't matter? Don't think it really matters now.

But the question is: is someone who has sex a preop trans person, who is the same sex as them genetically, straight? The answer is no.

They'll still genetically be the same sex after the op too. "

Exactly. Same answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it really matter what others think ?

If your happy why worry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Interesting point. But as it's from a woman I'm not sure how valid it is. I don't think a woman knows how a straight man thinks.

If Brian blessed decided he was transgender I'm not sure how many straight men would have sex with him.

I don't think people are that different, we're all people, all humans. I posted the above about the same time you typed your comment, and that's how i feel about it.

As a straight person myself i can see how words define things, but i can also see why they are used. If someone thinks they're feminine, and acts/behaves that way, then that's what they are. I suppose one of the problems then is that we are again basing behaviours on something.

Maybe one day we'll not care about this stuff at all because it won't matter? Don't think it really matters now.

But the question is: is someone who has sex a preop trans person, who is the same sex as them genetically, straight? The answer is no.

They'll still genetically be the same sex after the op too.

Exactly. Same answer."

Perhaps the law makers fucked up again by allowing people who have their willies removed be legally recognised as women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't class him as anything other than a person who did his thing and had fun.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

This has been asked and answered and debated so many times that you can do a meta-analysis.

Any Sydney University potential grduates searching for a thesis topic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does it matter?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question, if a guy has sex with a pre op transgender male to female, would you consider him to be bi ,bi curious or straight?

I'm talking about very feminine ,basically a female but with a penis.

Me and Kim had a debate about this, she thinks it means the guy is bisexual, I don't. Just interested in others opinions."
bi

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

Pansexual

Sexual

Human

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pre-bi

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

I'd just call him by his name and let him get on with it personally. I hate labels.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"Pre-bi "

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First time I hear this - a new answer at last..

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