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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? " what is rounding ? If you mean pounced on for the content of your thread then some require more rounding than others but you should always have the courage of your conviction | |||
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"Just post..ignore the bullshit and use the forums how you want to use the, within the rules of course.. " What are the rules? Is rounding on people allowed? It seems to be. I personally feel it ought not to be | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? what is rounding ? If you mean pounced on for the content of your thread then some require more rounding than others but you should always have the courage of your conviction " Rounding is when you express an opinion. Then one, then two, then 3,4,5.... appear like a pack of wolves, all having a go. Bullying, really, but most certainly rounding | |||
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"Well considering you choose to talk about Tasers, The Death Penalty and Muslims- which are incendiary subjects what do you expect? Try Fluffy Bunnies. " Those were debates. Which are fine. No, it was BBWs that ended with my being rounded on. Amazingly | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? what is rounding ? If you mean pounced on for the content of your thread then some require more rounding than others but you should always have the courage of your conviction Rounding is when you express an opinion. Then one, then two, then 3,4,5.... appear like a pack of wolves, all having a go. Bullying, really, but most certainly rounding " Are they being abusive or just expressing an opinion that happens to be shared? | |||
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"I post with what I believe authenticity, if people are outraged, feel rounded on and take offence that may be more to do with them rather than my words.I don't go out to be rude and hurtful, but I am not here living in a flowery, flowery world. Although, if I feel the pack is circling, I have no issue calling them on that. " And when the pack circles, as you put it, do you think it should be stopped? | |||
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"Well considering you choose to talk about Tasers, The Death Penalty and Muslims- which are incendiary subjects what do you expect? Try Fluffy Bunnies. Those were debates. Which are fine. No, it was BBWs that ended with my being rounded on. Amazingly" oh for goodness sake a couple of people independently disagreed with you and questioned you, the "bullying and rounding up on your" is there for everyone to see to make there own minds up | |||
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"Sorry but what does 'rounding on' mean? Genuine question coz I've never heard it before." Imagine a school playground where kids are shouting at one kid in the middle. Loads more kids keep joining the group. | |||
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"I post with what I believe authenticity, if people are outraged, feel rounded on and take offence that may be more to do with them rather than my words.I don't go out to be rude and hurtful, but I am not here living in a flowery, flowery world. Although, if I feel the pack is circling, I have no issue calling them on that. And when the pack circles, as you put it, do you think it should be stopped? " It usually is but sometimes a little late., but that is down to the mods not being online or have so many to look through. | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? " I almost never start my own threads and often cancel posts without submitting for that same reason. | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? what is rounding ? If you mean pounced on for the content of your thread then some require more rounding than others but you should always have the courage of your conviction Rounding is when you express an opinion. Then one, then two, then 3,4,5.... appear like a pack of wolves, all having a go. Bullying, really, but most certainly rounding " well forums unfortunately are guilty of bullying sometimes the little clique of forumites that stick together are synonymous for it | |||
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"I post with what I believe authenticity, if people are outraged, feel rounded on and take offence that may be more to do with them rather than my words.I don't go out to be rude and hurtful, but I am not here living in a flowery, flowery world. Although, if I feel the pack is circling, I have no issue calling them on that. And when the pack circles, as you put it, do you think it should be stopped? " Depends. If it's a group of people with the same opinion, then no. If it's a group of idiots just posting gleefully like a pack of wolves taking the piss... they really should have more self awareness. If it's abusive report. If it's someone posting topics that are obviously going to be incendiary then surely expect people to give their opinion. | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? what is rounding ? If you mean pounced on for the content of your thread then some require more rounding than others but you should always have the courage of your conviction Rounding is when you express an opinion. Then one, then two, then 3,4,5.... appear like a pack of wolves, all having a go. Bullying, really, but most certainly rounding well forums unfortunately are guilty of bullying sometimes the little clique of forumites that stick together are synonymous for it " I'm not denying they are but have you actually read the thread he's referring to, a couple of people disagreed with something he said | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down." Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? I almost never start my own threads and often cancel posts without submitting for that same reason." this There are quite a few people who stay off the forums because of this pack mentality. Time to stop, people of fab? | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them...." in all the time that I have been here, I don't believe I have seen that. I don't know who the mods friends are, so I wouldn't know. | |||
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"There is always gonna be a debate on any post . Would be rather boring if everyone agreed on everything " Debates are fine. Think more of couple of kids in a playground having a fight. Couple of others join in for one kid, cheering and jeering the other one. More and more join in, now all jeering at the one kid. That's not debate. It's rounding on someone or bullying. It happens a lot on the forums. | |||
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"There is always gonna be a debate on any post . Would be rather boring if everyone agreed on everything Debates are fine. Think more of couple of kids in a playground having a fight. Couple of others join in for one kid, cheering and jeering the other one. More and more join in, now all jeering at the one kid. That's not debate. It's rounding on someone or bullying. It happens a lot on the forums." are you still talking about the bbw thread? | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? what is rounding ? If you mean pounced on for the content of your thread then some require more rounding than others but you should always have the courage of your conviction Rounding is when you express an opinion. Then one, then two, then 3,4,5.... appear like a pack of wolves, all having a go. Bullying, really, but most certainly rounding well forums unfortunately are guilty of bullying sometimes the little clique of forumites that stick together are synonymous for it I'm not denying they are but have you actually read the thread he's referring to, a couple of people disagreed with something he said" I was talking in general, ok? Just used that thread from last night to highlight the issue. A better example could be used - two threads, same subject, guy called Ricky. Went on for two days | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? what is rounding ? If you mean pounced on for the content of your thread then some require more rounding than others but you should always have the courage of your conviction Rounding is when you express an opinion. Then one, then two, then 3,4,5.... appear like a pack of wolves, all having a go. Bullying, really, but most certainly rounding well forums unfortunately are guilty of bullying sometimes the little clique of forumites that stick together are synonymous for it I'm not denying they are but have you actually read the thread he's referring to, a couple of people disagreed with something he said I was talking in general, ok? Just used that thread from last night to highlight the issue. A better example could be used - two threads, same subject, guy called Ricky. Went on for two days" right as long as weve cleared that up. | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... in all the time that I have been here, I don't believe I have seen that. I don't know who the mods friends are, so I wouldn't know." I agree with View. | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel relureluctant post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? " I don't think anyone should ever feel reluctant to post in a forum and would certainly feel mortified if I had influenced anyone to so feel, however, when topics are posted where people are going to have strong emotional based _iews I would advise some thought on how to word them and an acceptance that many won't share those _iews. With regards to "rounding", I think its inevitable that where you have a number of regular posters in what is generally a transient community they are likely to share a number of base social and moral _iews. When these are in opposition to your own I understand that it could feel as though you are being rounded upon. I do think that the majority of regular posters in the forums will give their opinion on a thread but certainly won't make you feel unwelcome in more light hearted threads. My advice, be who you are, don't take things to heart and join in! | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them...." | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? what is rounding ? If you mean pounced on for the content of your thread then some require more rounding than others but you should always have the courage of your conviction Rounding is when you express an opinion. Then one, then two, then 3,4,5.... appear like a pack of wolves, all having a go. Bullying, really, but most certainly rounding well forums unfortunately are guilty of bullying sometimes the little clique of forumites that stick together are synonymous for it I'm not denying they are but have you actually read the thread he's referring to, a couple of people disagreed with something he said" which thread was that ? | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... " I am not rounding on you before I am accused but in 7 weeks have you actually seen what you have agreed with? How have you determined who the mods are friendly with ? | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them...." If you think the mods are letting people off etc report them to admin. Having said that. In the 5 years I've been posting I have never seen a thread be left open when it's clear it should be closed. | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... " do you have any evidence to back this up? Who are the mods friends? What rules have they broken? Have you read the forum rules? I might not like what the mods say sometimes but I think they are fair, they are also volunteers and not online 24 hours away. | |||
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"I have now read the bbw thread in its entirety and still can't see any rounding on anyone. I cam see some dollys that were thrown from their pram though. All I saw was someone disagreeing with a point and a discussion ensuing which is what you wanted? You kept forcing the issue demanding an apology. Not everyone will agree with you. Yes some threads on the same matter will have different responses demanding on who posts it, who is online and who responds. It's the way it works, you cannot police it. " I don't want to highlight that post as it was quite mild. I'm talking in general. If you search for clique and read posts in those threads you will see there are many who are reluctant to post or have even given up posting for the reasons mentioned above. Further, I've had others contact me agreeing with what I've written so far Debates are good but what is unacceptable is how the pack mentality takes over. And it does! | |||
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"I would feel jolly glum if some one was reluctant to post a thread or message in here. I try to look at things positively and if there is a thread I disagree with I stay away or try to give my opinion in a thoughtful but honest way . And not one that's just a dig at the person who posted it " Great to hear. Hope others will feel the same | |||
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"Well considering you choose to talk about Tasers, The Death Penalty and Muslims- which are incendiary subjects what do you expect? Try Fluffy Bunnies. Those were debates. Which are fine. No, it was BBWs that ended with my being rounded on. Amazingly" You posted some contentious threads that will always get people talking and were happy to argue your point. Works both ways. Your use of the word "Amazingly" is very telling above. | |||
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"It usually is but sometimes a little late., but that is down to the mods not being online or have so many to look through." Where's Purehoneypot gone | |||
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"It usually is but sometimes a little late., but that is down to the mods not being online or have so many to look through. Where's Purehoneypot gone " I've been wondering the same thing. | |||
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"I have now read the bbw thread in its entirety and still can't see any rounding on anyone. I cam see some dollys that were thrown from their pram though. All I saw was someone disagreeing with a point and a discussion ensuing which is what you wanted? You kept forcing the issue demanding an apology. Not everyone will agree with you. Yes some threads on the same matter will have different responses demanding on who posts it, who is online and who responds. It's the way it works, you cannot police it. I don't want to highlight that post as it was quite mild. I'm talking in general. If you search for clique and read posts in those threads you will see there are many who are reluctant to post or have even given up posting for the reasons mentioned above. Further, I've had others contact me agreeing with what I've written so far Debates are good but what is unacceptable is how the pack mentality takes over. And it does! " I am not going to post anymore on this thread as it just fuels the sideliners to message you.... the fact that you receive messages from others speaking about other posters and/or agreeing, does highlight your point but also what is wrong as well.... they are prepared to bitch about other posters but not say anything public in support of you. That says more about them sadly. I can only speak for me, I have been here 8 years and enjoy it. I have had numerous timeouts that I have learned from. I have met one mod at a social for 10 mins. I have not exchanged a message with them for years. Nor, do I proactively exchange messages with other forum posters, I am here for my enjoyment, not building friendships. welcome and enjoy I can't agree with all your posts, but I can't disagree with some of it | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? " There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned " That is very sad to hear. No one should be afraid to post x | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned " I'm really surprised at this as I've always thought you to be very sure of yourself on here, very level headed and to not take any bullshit from anybody. | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned I'm really surprised at this as I've always thought you to be very sure of yourself on here, very level headed and to not take any bullshit from anybody." | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned " I'm genuinely sorry to hear it but understand completely. Thanks for taking the time to express that so much more eloquently and elegantly than I have. Hopefully the posters throughout the forums will take notice. We can only hope | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned That is very sad to hear. No one should be afraid to post x" Clearly some are. So what can be done from here? "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Who remembers those MTv ads? Time we were all part of the solution? | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... in all the time that I have been here, I don't believe I have seen that. I don't know who the mods friends are, so I wouldn't know." Im not naming names but their are certain people who regularly post spiteful vindictive attacks on threads and never get pulled up or have posts removed. Blocking should block interaction on forums to so you could blank their poison. | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned " Next time you feel like that, hit the post button not the delete one. You may be pleasantly surprised. I've posted threads that were well received and some that died on their arse. I've contributed to threads and had all sorts of abuse and insult. Just helps me find people I'd get on with and those I can hit the block button. Use it as a filter. | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... in all the time that I have been here, I don't believe I have seen that. I don't know who the mods friends are, so I wouldn't know. Im not naming names but their are certain people who regularly post spiteful vindictive attacks on threads and never get pulled up or have posts removed. Blocking should block interaction on forums to so you could blank their poison." but how do you know they don't get pulled up? | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... in all the time that I have been here, I don't believe I have seen that. I don't know who the mods friends are, so I wouldn't know. Im not naming names but their are certain people who regularly post spiteful vindictive attacks on threads and never get pulled up or have posts removed. Blocking should block interaction on forums to so you could blank their poison." I think I know who you are on about. Every thread with sarcasm and a thin veneer of trolling played out as humour. | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... in all the time that I have been here, I don't believe I have seen that. I don't know who the mods friends are, so I wouldn't know. Im not naming names but their are certain people who regularly post spiteful vindictive attacks on threads and never get pulled up or have posts removed. Blocking should block interaction on forums to so you could blank their poison." | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned That is very sad to hear. No one should be afraid to post x Clearly some are. So what can be done from here? "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Who remembers those MTv ads? Time we were all part of the solution? " I agree. If there are people who are afraid to post then maybe the mods need to look at why ? | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... do you have any evidence to back this up? Who are the mods friends? What rules have they broken? Have you read the forum rules? I might not like what the mods say sometimes but I think they are fair, they are also volunteers and not online 24 hours away. " We have been on here under different profiles in the past. Some of the long term members have made bitchy uncalled for comments to us and others in various threads and nothing was done even when reported. Then far less severe comments were made by newer members were those same members suddenly take the moral highground and the thread suddennly gets closed. So clearly what they say goes and everyone else has to play along or stay away. Ill probably be chastised and rebuffed for saying this but from the pm's im getting Im far from alone in moticing it Im just the only one saying it outloud... | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... do you have any evidence to back this up? Who are the mods friends? What rules have they broken? Have you read the forum rules? I might not like what the mods say sometimes but I think they are fair, they are also volunteers and not online 24 hours away. We have been on here under different profiles in the past. Some of the long term members have made bitchy uncalled for comments to us and others in various threads and nothing was done even when reported. Then far less severe comments were made by newer members were those same members suddenly take the moral highground and the thread suddennly gets closed. So clearly what they say goes and everyone else has to play along or stay away. Ill probably be chastised and rebuffed for saying this but from the pm's im getting Im far from alone in moticing it Im just the only one saying it outloud..." it we all get bitchy or sarcastic comments made to us, I'm always getting pulled up on stuff, but as long as I stay within the rules i shall keep posting, what people say to me is like water of a ducks back. We all get PMS agreeing with stuff we say some are more vocal on the forums than others | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned I'm really surprised at this as I've always thought you to be very sure of yourself on here, very level headed and to not take any bullshit from anybody. Seriously you should see some of the hate mail I get from posts on here I am quite thicked skinned but I do tone down a lot of what I say, I think the problem is because there is no emotion in font people take what you say the wrong way, if its face to face people can read how to take you from your facial expression, where as words don't have that I have never deliberately tried to upset anybody but sometimes I say something as a joke and its taken the wrong way and i get a fair bit of hate mail " I hope you report this hate mail. That's bang out of order. I've never had any hate mail, must to abusive messages from a couple of guys that sent the same message to everyone else | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned I'm really surprised at this as I've always thought you to be very sure of yourself on here, very level headed and to not take any bullshit from anybody. Seriously you should see some of the hate mail I get from posts on here I am quite thicked skinned but I do tone down a lot of what I say, I think the problem is because there is no emotion in font people take what you say the wrong way, if its face to face people can read how to take you from your facial expression, where as words don't have that I have never deliberately tried to upset anybody but sometimes I say something as a joke and its taken the wrong way and i get a fair bit of hate mail That is horrible & undeserved. I've had the opposite to be fair, where I've been accused of insulting someone in the forums & I've had private messages asking if I'm OK & saying they knew I wasn't being offensive." that's the same as I get | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... do you have any evidence to back this up? Who are the mods friends? What rules have they broken? Have you read the forum rules? I might not like what the mods say sometimes but I think they are fair, they are also volunteers and not online 24 hours away. We have been on here under different profiles in the past. Some of the long term members have made bitchy uncalled for comments to us and others in various threads and nothing was done even when reported. Then far less severe comments were made by newer members were those same members suddenly take the moral highground and the thread suddennly gets closed. So clearly what they say goes and everyone else has to play along or stay away. Ill probably be chastised and rebuffed for saying this but from the pm's im getting Im far from alone in moticing it Im just the only one saying it outloud..." But you can't know that nothing was done. Maybe the thread wasn't pulled but the person was banned from the forums for a period of time. Admin don't go about shouting about who had been banned and what for etc. As with all thinhs we do in our adult life there are choices. You can choose to be bothered by a handful of people hlwho get their kicks by typing out things you find offensive or you can choose to laugh at them and concentrate on those who enter into the spirit of the thread and give good discussion and debate. One in particular for me springs to mind when a young guy with either aspergers or autism (I can't remember which) started a thread about love. A lot of people posted 'humourous' comments which had nothing to do with the op however I chose to only interact with him and have a reasoned, controlled discussion with him to understand the point he was trying to make. You get idiots who like the sound of their own voice and think they are legends in their own lunch times everywhere, not just here and it is how you deal with them that directly impacts on your enjoyment of the environment uou are in. Be that real life situations or online ones where you can easily ignore them. | |||
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"Right op, ifmyou didn't keep referring to threads where what your talking a out didn't happen I might take you seriously. Yes there is a pack mentality at times, there are a few (very few) posters that just get their bit between their teeth on certain posts and don't let up. There are also threads that cause strong debate where sparks fly which is inevitable, there are also some some things that are said and I just think oh fucking hell. Generally arguments will occur, most people on the forums (in my opinion) can have a row on one thread then agree on another. A forum is like any other place a group of society congregate. The mods do a good job bit can't always be online the rules are stricter now than they have ever been. I'm a gobshite bit most people would say I'm a fair gobsnite and I certainly don't like to see the gang mentality. But we've all had our fair share of shit on here. If you post on a public forum you have no control over how a thread will turn out. But you also need to put things in prospective and not over think trivial things" | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... do you have any evidence to back this up? Who are the mods friends? What rules have they broken? Have you read the forum rules? I might not like what the mods say sometimes but I think they are fair, they are also volunteers and not online 24 hours away. We have been on here under different profiles in the past. Some of the long term members have made bitchy uncalled for comments to us and others in various threads and nothing was done even when reported. Then far less severe comments were made by newer members were those same members suddenly take the moral highground and the thread suddennly gets closed. So clearly what they say goes and everyone else has to play along or stay away. Ill probably be chastised and rebuffed for saying this but from the pm's im getting Im far from alone in moticing it Im just the only one saying it outloud... But you can't know that nothing was done. Maybe the thread wasn't pulled but the person was banned from the forums for a period of time. Admin don't go about shouting about who had been banned and what for etc. You do know because the thread wasnt pulled and the person was still posting every day as always still being spiteful etc they wouldnt have been had they had a timeout would they.fair enough, I don't look to deeply into when someone is posting or not, to be honest most things just go over my head The people Im talking about are prolific posters whose posts are in so many threads you can hardly not know they are here. Clearly Im not talking rubbish because others are guessing exactly who Im talking about. But Im stepping out now because nothings gonna change. This thread will soon close for being to long, the posters will continue to be nasty keyboard warriors and the mods will continue to let them do it so other than letting off steam and letting some of the more reasonable posters know some people are reluctant to post this thread will die and be forgotten... " I have no idea who anyone is talking about | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... do you have any evidence to back this up? Who are the mods friends? What rules have they broken? Have you read the forum rules? I might not like what the mods say sometimes but I think they are fair, they are also volunteers and not online 24 hours away. We have been on here under different profiles in the past. Some of the long term members have made bitchy uncalled for comments to us and others in various threads and nothing was done even when reported. Then far less severe comments were made by newer members were those same members suddenly take the moral highground and the thread suddennly gets closed. So clearly what they say goes and everyone else has to play along or stay away. Ill probably be chastised and rebuffed for saying this but from the pm's im getting Im far from alone in moticing it Im just the only one saying it outloud... But you can't know that nothing was done. Maybe the thread wasn't pulled but the person was banned from the forums for a period of time. Admin don't go about shouting about who had been banned and what for etc. You do know because the thread wasnt pulled and the person was still posting every day as always still being spiteful etc they wouldnt have been had they had a timeout would they.fair enough, I don't look to deeply into when someone is posting or not, to be honest most things just go over my head The people Im talking about are prolific posters whose posts are in so many threads you can hardly not know they are here. Clearly Im not talking rubbish because others are guessing exactly who Im talking about. But Im stepping out now because nothings gonna change. This thread will soon close for being to long, the posters will continue to be nasty keyboard warriors and the mods will continue to let them do it so other than letting off steam and letting some of the more reasonable posters know some people are reluctant to post this thread will die and be forgotten... " this | |||
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"Ps I've had 5 forum timeouts in 6 weeks for different reasons. I'm not subtle when I have a dig at some one though. Others are more so. They're the ones who live and die for fab. Some people just need to get a life. " People who make a play of the fact they deliberately stay just the right side of the rules amuse me - they must expend a lot of effort caring enough to want to post something cunty without getting banned. Or maybe I'm just annoyed they're better at it than me | |||
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"I made an interesting observation this morning with the 'pairing up' forum members threads. There was somebody who normally posts on these types of threads that it's the clique and distances themselves from it. Now, they were mentioned several times as someone to be paired up. This has clearly had a positive impact as they joined in, rather than comment negatively. That's a positive out of a perceived negative. But were they someone who posted a negative in a "woe is me, no one fancies me, it's all the usual names" way? So getting a pair up was probably the point of their post? There are a few individuals I can think of where this is their MO. (Genuine question, haven't read the threads so don't know who you're talking about.)" No, I can honestly say they don't come across that way at all, they seem strong & independent. | |||
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"Ps I've had 5 forum timeouts in 6 weeks for different reasons. I'm not subtle when I have a dig at some one though. Others are more so. They're the ones who live and die for fab. Some people just need to get a life. People who make a play of the fact they deliberately stay just the right side of the rules amuse me - they must expend a lot of effort caring enough to want to post something cunty without getting banned. Or maybe I'm just annoyed they're better at it than me " Maybe. I really don't bother analysing everything that happens here. I'll be outraged one minute and laughing the next. If people wanna take my comments personally given I don't know them and they don't know me, thats their problem. No one has to justify why they're here. | |||
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"It's also depends on how it's interpreted by the posters. On the thread in question, I made comment that you were most likely speaking from personal experience (which lets face it is how personal opinion is normally developed) and therefore meant no offence by it, but you choose to go on the defensive of the negative comments instead of focusing on the positive ones, so it's arguable that you could have archostrated your own downfall on the thread, by making the choice you did " Oh was there a specific thread this is about?it been deleted? | |||
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"It's also depends on how it's interpreted by the posters. On the thread in question, I made comment that you were most likely speaking from personal experience (which lets face it is how personal opinion is normally developed) and therefore meant no offence by it, but you choose to go on the defensive of the negative comments instead of focusing on the positive ones, so it's arguable that you could have archostrated your own downfall on the thread, by making the choice you did Oh was there a specific thread this is about?it been deleted?" just press the OPs green arrow find the BBW thread, open your pop corn and enjoy it while you read. | |||
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"It's also depends on how it's interpreted by the posters. On the thread in question, I made comment that you were most likely speaking from personal experience (which lets face it is how personal opinion is normally developed) and therefore meant no offence by it, but you choose to go on the defensive of the negative comments instead of focusing on the positive ones, so it's arguable that you could have archostrated your own downfall on the thread, by making the choice you did Oh was there a specific thread this is about?it been deleted? just press the OPs green arrow find the BBW thread, open your pop corn and enjoy it while you read." Ahh so yes catagory B, person makes widely insulting remark and then feels hard done to when people are offended. | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned I'm really surprised at this as I've always thought you to be very sure of yourself on here, very level headed and to not take any bullshit from anybody." This. I'd feel the forum would have lost a thoughtful and level headed poster if she no longer posted. She's one of the ones I always look to as a voice of reason and sense. | |||
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"It's also depends on how it's interpreted by the posters. On the thread in question, I made comment that you were most likely speaking from personal experience (which lets face it is how personal opinion is normally developed) and therefore meant no offence by it, but you choose to go on the defensive of the negative comments instead of focusing on the positive ones, so it's arguable that you could have archostrated your own downfall on the thread, by making the choice you did Oh was there a specific thread this is about?it been deleted? just press the OPs green arrow find the BBW thread, open your pop corn and enjoy it while you read. Ahh so yes catagory B, person makes widely insulting remark and then feels hard done to when people are offended. " i dont think anyone was offended by it they just disagreed with it | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... in all the time that I have been here, I don't believe I have seen that. I don't know who the mods friends are, so I wouldn't know. Im not naming names but their are certain people who regularly post spiteful vindictive attacks on threads and never get pulled up or have posts removed. Blocking should block interaction on forums to so you could blank their poison." I'm not sure how that would or could work. | |||
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"Most people know you're spot on OP. Plus the mods are too busy closing interesting threads, leaving us to discuss what size tits we prefer. That's why these forums are dying on their arse, interesting posters left long time ago There you go, T&A in one post. S'easy " i see way more threads on here about politics, current events etc than i do ones about tits and arses. i learn most of whats going on in the world from here as i dont watch news programmes or read newspapers lol | |||
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"It's also depends on how it's interpreted by the posters. On the thread in question, I made comment that you were most likely speaking from personal experience (which lets face it is how personal opinion is normally developed) and therefore meant no offence by it, but you choose to go on the defensive of the negative comments instead of focusing on the positive ones, so it's arguable that you could have archostrated your own downfall on the thread, by making the choice you did Oh was there a specific thread this is about?it been deleted? just press the OPs green arrow find the BBW thread, open your pop corn and enjoy it while you read. Ahh so yes catagory B, person makes widely insulting remark and then feels hard done to when people are offended. i dont think anyone was offended by it they just disagreed with it" I've read it to see what everyone was talking about and I don't really think it was "widely insulting" either. So is this entire thing just a storm in a tea cup? | |||
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" If the mods think it's getting spiteful or personal or going against the rules, they will remove certain posts or close the thread down. Unless its the mods friends breaking them.... in all the time that I have been here, I don't believe I have seen that. I don't know who the mods friends are, so I wouldn't know. Im not naming names but their are certain people who regularly post spiteful vindictive attacks on threads and never get pulled up or have posts removed. Blocking should block interaction on forums to so you could blank their poison. I'm not sure how that would or could work." It would make most threads nonsensical to me because of the size of my block list! | |||
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"It's also depends on how it's interpreted by the posters. On the thread in question, I made comment that you were most likely speaking from personal experience (which lets face it is how personal opinion is normally developed) and therefore meant no offence by it, but you choose to go on the defensive of the negative comments instead of focusing on the positive ones, so it's arguable that you could have archostrated your own downfall on the thread, by making the choice you did Oh was there a specific thread this is about?it been deleted? just press the OPs green arrow find the BBW thread, open your pop corn and enjoy it while you read. Ahh so yes catagory B, person makes widely insulting remark and then feels hard done to when people are offended. i dont think anyone was offended by it they just disagreed with it" Perhaps my use of the word offence was too strong/misplaced but hopefully you understood what I meant by my OP | |||
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"Most people know you're spot on OP. Plus the mods are too busy closing interesting threads, leaving us to discuss what size tits we prefer. That's why these forums are dying on their arse, interesting posters left long time ago There you go, T&A in one post. S'easy " I see no evidence the forums are dying, forums go through phases sometimes good sometimes not, one day it can be full of negativity and one day everyone joining in and having a laugh. I've been here 9 years, its like a revolving door people come and go all the time, and I can honestly say out of the long term regular posters over the years that have left it isn't because of the forums and they can't be that bad because we are all still here posting. One person leaves another will join, that's life | |||
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"Anyone ever, like me, feel reluctant to post for fear of being 'rounded on'? Is 'rounding on' posters acceptable under Fab rules? I am all for debate and the expression of differing points of _iew, but feel that often threads generate into glorified bun fights? What are others' thoughts? There are loads of times I write a post and delete is last minute in fear of the abuse and put downs from other people Your not really allowed an opinion on here unless it goes with the masses I don't mind people having a different opinion to me and telling me they don't agree so long as its done in a mature way but mostly on here it's not, they have to belittle you and put you down while disagreeing, then I find some follow you round the forums putting down everything you say for weeks after, and its nearly always the well knows regulars ( obviously not all im not suggesting all regulars do this) Best to keep your opinions to yourself unless your thick skinned I'm genuinely sorry to hear it but understand completely. Thanks for taking the time to express that so much more eloquently and elegantly than I have. Hopefully the posters throughout the forums will take notice. We can only hope look the way I see it if a poster with their cock Tits or pussy on show tries to make a serious point on here it will beget derisive comment you can't take someone seriously when they are on show ,also the idiotic comments "do you fantasise about Fucking a pregnant woman " " yes I fucked my best mates pregnant wife behind his back" they will get what they deserve If you're shallow enough not to take a serious comment in the way it's intended because an arse, cock or tits is their avatar, it says more about you than them.just expressing my opinion which I'm allowed to do am I not ,you've just made a judgement of me and you must know how that would feel if it were me doing it of you But I don't judge what people put on the forums based on their avatar pic. How are you anyway?" I'm good, I'm not judging an avatar just seeing the ridiculousness of making a serious point with your nuts pussy or Tits on show ,makes me laugh so the comment I will sometimes make may be based upon this or maybe we should see our ministers in Westminster debating serious political issues naked ,how seriously would we take them if they did this xx | |||
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