FabSwingers.com forum: Creationist or not?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Weird question for a swinger site: are you a creationist or evolutionist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Evolutionist.

Science is just magic explained.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Evolutionist. I don't accept lies.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I believe strongly in evolution, due to the massive amount of evidence that supports it.

The creationist movement was started by religious groups, as a way to undermine science education by introducing a religious viewpoint, albeit without a specific deity that created the world and people.

I'm an evidence led person generally.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Evolution

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I'm hoping one special Fabster posts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure how anyone could stand by creationist as the truth - world created in 6 days for example. When evolution is a proven fact.

It's like arguing a piece of black is white.

We can see its black

We can prove its black

Yet some will still say it's white.

That's my perception of it anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Evolutionist. I'm not sure anyone would even be brave enough to admit to being a creationist in the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I'm an American, do I have to say creationist??

On that note, can an atheist be a creationist? Can an atheist be an American?!?

I've confused myself. Long story short, I'm an evolutionist.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Evolutionist.

I once had a creationist physics teacher, which seemed an odd combination.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Evolutionist. I'm not sure anyone would even be brave enough to admit to being a creationist in the UK."

A bad day out could be the Creationist Museum - Portsmouth

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/jun/06/evidence-creation-museum

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

I cant explain how the little fishes got in my ben and jerrys.

I cant explain how the dinosaurs fossils have got in the rocks but you b@$#!rds have had 7000 years to hide them there!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I'm an American, do I have to say creationist??

On that note, can an atheist be a creationist? Can an atheist be an American?!?

I've confused myself. Long story short, I'm an evolutionist.

-Courtney"

Does that mean the Westborough Baptist Church will revoke your membership?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I'm an American, do I have to say creationist??

On that note, can an atheist be a creationist? Can an atheist be an American?!?

I've confused myself. Long story short, I'm an evolutionist.

-Courtney

Does that mean the Westborough Baptist Church will revoke your membership?

Not if no one tells them

Do you think they'll believe that my opinions have 'evolved'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Evolutionist. I'm not sure anyone would even be brave enough to admit to being a creationist in the UK.

A bad day out could be the Creationist Museum - Portsmouth

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/jun/06/evidence-creation-museum"

My Aunt lives an hour's drive from this very "museum". She was exasperated but not surprised when it opened

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I'm an American, do I have to say creationist??

On that note, can an atheist be a creationist? Can an atheist be an American?!?

I've confused myself. Long story short, I'm an evolutionist.

-Courtney

Does that mean the Westborough Baptist Church will revoke your membership?

Not if no one tells them

Do you think they'll believe that my opinions have 'evolved'?

I think they'll accept your opinion with open arms. They're an open minded bunch of 'people'...

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

"Evolutionist. I'm not sure anyone would even be brave enough to admit to being a creationist in the UK.

A bad day out could be the Creationist Museum - Portsmouth

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/jun/06/evidence-creation-museum

My Aunt lives an hour's drive from this very "museum". She was exasperated but not surprised when it opened

is there a big fuck off dinosaur by the entrance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Evolutionist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Every year I used to go to a county fair in upstate New York. There was a creationist church that would always have an exhibit there. I always went because they gave out free coffee, tea, cake, and cookies.

Out in the front of the church they had a huge dinosaur display...that had a saddle on! For the humans who used to, presumably, ride the dinosaurs back in the day. As you do...

Coffee and cookies anyone?

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?"

There is God just not a man in the sky with a beard.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Both- they aren't mutually exclusive.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

For me, it could go either way. There is proof and 'proof'.

Something could have created stuff to evolve....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Every year I used to go to a county fair in upstate New York. There was a creationist church that would always have an exhibit there. I always went because they gave out free coffee, tea, cake, and cookies.

Out in the front of the church they had a huge dinosaur display...that had a saddle on! For the humans who used to, presumably, ride the dinosaurs back in the day. As you do...

Coffee and cookies anyone?

-Courtney"

Forget the coffee and BISCUITS, I wanna ride a dinosaur like Jesus did!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I once met someone with devils toenails

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?"

I believe it's possible there is something/someone out there that we don't know. We don't actually know how the universe came to be.

Sometimes, when i look at what scientists are able to do and how we're progressing i do think we are made in Gods image, but i don't fully know what God is. We are trying to be Gods, creators and controllers of chaos, all the time (some of us are anyway).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?"

God was created by men who wanted an excuse to commit murder, gain enormous wealth and subjugate those with weaker wills.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?"

I've just done a username search, definitely no God here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only the great architect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?

There is God just not a man in the sky with a beard."

Nicecouple can you explain ? What is that you believe in ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Science does not know how life actually started. Creationists are simply guessing.

The evidence for evolution is accepted by some creationists because they see it as being compatible with their beliefs.

Some eminent scientists believe the idea of a creator is not inconsistent with their view of science.

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
over a year ago

Stourbridge

Creationists are great fun. I love speaking to them. You just wind them up and let them go. A series of leading questions usually gets them to say more and more ridiculous things that you can pick off.

That being said I sat next to an evangelist minister on a flight who was trying to convince me that "God" was everywhere and he told me he had seen a man wash off his tattoos that he had for 30 years.

Loony.

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

Creationists believe, amongst other things, that all life on Earth was created in the last ten thousand years!

I mean seriously?! Get a grip!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Creationists believe, amongst other things, that all life on Earth was created in the last ten thousand years!

I mean seriously?! Get a grip! "

Would you like a ride on the dinosaur as well? Its all saddled up and waiting

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Science does not know how life actually started. Creationists are simply guessing.

The evidence for evolution is accepted by some creationists because they see it as being compatible with their beliefs.

Some eminent scientists believe the idea of a creator is not inconsistent with their view of science. "

True, I'm sure prof stephen hawking even said that the more he learnt about the universe the more he thought someone had designed it. I'm paraphrasing of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Science does not know how life actually started. Creationists are simply guessing.

The evidence for evolution is accepted by some creationists because they see it as being compatible with their beliefs.

Some eminent scientists believe the idea of a creator is not inconsistent with their view of science. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Weird question for a swinger site: are you a creationist or evolutionist? "

well evolution is wrong, where are all the dead mutant species that died off and as for creationism, we know the earth is over 6000 years old as the bbc has repeats that old...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?

God was created by men who wanted an excuse to commit murder, gain enormous wealth and subjugate those with weaker wills."

Every race through known human history has at some point had a 'God' or two. Does your simple statement cover all of these instances?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"For me, it could go either way. There is proof and 'proof'.

Something could have created stuff to evolve...."

I see your point but creationists believe the earth is only 6000 years old and we haven't evolved. Even though most Europeans have Neanderthal's genes within us, from our interbreeding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?

I believe it's possible there is something/someone out there that we don't know. We don't actually know how the universe came to be.

I agree. I've never wrote anything off,even though I have no experience of it.Sometimes I do sit and wonder ?

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

"Creationists believe, amongst other things, that all life on Earth was created in the last ten thousand years!

I mean seriously?! Get a grip!

Would you like a ride on the dinosaur as well? Its all saddled up and waiting

-Courtney"

Like most men on here Courtney, I've got a great urge to see you in jodhpurs!

Maybe we could ride together?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Creationists are great fun. I love speaking to them. You just wind them up and let them go. A series of leading questions usually gets them to say more and more ridiculous things that you can pick off.

Loony. "

That's LSD for you ! Marvellous drug !!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?

There is God just not a man in the sky with a beard.

Nicecouple can you explain ? What is that you believe in ?"

I believe that when someone wrote that God created man in his own image they really meant man created god in his own image. God is us, it's life, it's energy, it's trees, it's oceans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Science does not know how life actually started. Creationists are simply guessing.

The evidence for evolution is accepted by some creationists because they see it as being compatible with their beliefs.

Some eminent scientists believe the idea of a creator is not inconsistent with their view of science.

True, I'm sure prof stephen hawking even said that the more he learnt about the universe the more he thought someone had designed it. I'm paraphrasing of course."

Up until 5 or 6 years ago Hawkins believed that God had created the laws of physics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?

I believe it's possible there is something/someone out there that we don't know. We don't actually know how the universe came to be.

I agree. I've never wrote anything off,even though I have no experience of it.Sometimes I do sit and wonder ?"

I'm ignostic. I believe in the possibility of a God but i need it explaining to me first coz i can't fathom what a God might be.

I just sit and think about how insane it is that anything even exists, and that we're aware of it. Or able to have an imagination and the understanding of physics to work out how it might have all come about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?

God was created by men who wanted an excuse to commit murder, gain enormous wealth and subjugate those with weaker wills.

Every race through known human history has at some point had a 'God' or two. Does your simple statement cover all of these instances? "

Pretty much any race that has a hierarchy, which is most, if not all.

So yes, my "simple" statement covers many of those instances.

The great thing is it's just an opinion but one that can't be proved wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Science does not know how life actually started. Creationists are simply guessing.

The evidence for evolution is accepted by some creationists because they see it as being compatible with their beliefs.

Some eminent scientists believe the idea of a creator is not inconsistent with their view of science.

True, I'm sure prof stephen hawking even said that the more he learnt about the universe the more he thought someone had designed it. I'm paraphrasing of course.

Up until 5 or 6 years ago Hawkins believed that God had created the laws of physics. "

What happened 5 or 6 years ago?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In all seriousness, the issue of god and religion aside, taking creationism as a belief system in itself (which it is - it goes much further than just believing a creator created everything and evolution went on from there) creationism is not only bollox, it is dangerous.

I am from the US (as some will know). I had a debate in high school, an actual debate in my class, about whether creationism and evolution should be taught side by side in my science class, both taken as "theories" of life. Not in a religion class, a theology class, or even a philosophy class. No. In a science class.

There are regularly debates in the southern US states about this same subject. In many places, because of creationist lobbying, science books must include a preamble that evolution is only a theory, as is creationism, when evolution is discussed.

As I said, this isn't a statement about religion or god, I am just saying that when groups like this get a lot of power, weird stuff starts happening in our classrooms.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?

I believe it's possible there is something/someone out there that we don't know. We don't actually know how the universe came to be.

I agree. I've never wrote anything off,even though I have no experience of it.Sometimes I do sit and wonder ?

I'm ignostic. I believe in the possibility of a God but i need it explaining to me first coz i can't fathom what a God might be.

I often wonder why we're really here ? Like what's our real purpose ? I mean is this really it ?

Is there something else? Or is it just a comfort blanket for some in life who need to cling to something ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?"

I believe in God.

I don't believe he or she is on Fab though.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?

I believe it's possible there is something/someone out there that we don't know. We don't actually know how the universe came to be.

I agree. I've never wrote anything off,even though I have no experience of it.Sometimes I do sit and wonder ?

I'm ignostic. I believe in the possibility of a God but i need it explaining to me first coz i can't fathom what a God might be.

I often wonder why we're really here ? Like what's our real purpose ? I mean is this really it ?

Is there something else? Or is it just a comfort blanket for some in life who need to cling to something ?"

We are here to learn and continue the species.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Who in their right minds would be daft enough to admit to being a creationist with all these superior brilliant minds arounds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

In my humble opinion the less definitive and more open I am, the wiser I have become. Maybe both science and creationism are belief systems that will one day be replaced by a convincing whole new movement.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

To put it simply - its science v complete and utter bollocks as usually peddled by send us money religions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone believe that there might be a God here ?

I believe it's possible there is something/someone out there that we don't know. We don't actually know how the universe came to be.

I agree. I've never wrote anything off,even though I have no experience of it.Sometimes I do sit and wonder ?

I'm ignostic. I believe in the possibility of a God but i need it explaining to me first coz i can't fathom what a God might be.

I often wonder why we're really here ? Like what's our real purpose ? I mean is this really it ?

Is there something else? Or is it just a comfort blanket for some in life who need to cling to something ?"

Dunno myself.

I do know we need a physical body to experience emotions, our senses all add up to how we experience this world and this life and this sets off chemical reactions. Not sure how this relates to an afterlife though. Or a purpose.

I think anything is what you make of it, if you think too much or too open mindedly you'll drive yourself mad, so just gotta accept what you think is true as true and keep looking for answers sometimes. Sometimes there are no answers, if there are you'll find them when the time is right and you've got the experience to have the ability to understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think science can explain a lot but not everything.

It can't explain why we like certain things and not others, what makes us attracted to someone and not to others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Science does not know how life actually started. Creationists are simply guessing.

The evidence for evolution is accepted by some creationists because they see it as being compatible with their beliefs.

Some eminent scientists believe the idea of a creator is not inconsistent with their view of science.

True, I'm sure prof stephen hawking even said that the more he learnt about the universe the more he thought someone had designed it. I'm paraphrasing of course.

Up until 5 or 6 years ago Hawkins believed that God had created the laws of physics.

What happened 5 or 6 years ago?!"

He simply changed his mind in the light of new scientific theory.

I guess he inadvertently reinforced the theory of 'the god of the gaps'.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

Science doesn't peddle absolutes though, merely posits theories based on available evidence. And new evidence is always sought. There can come a point where the available evidence is so good that theory can be seen as close to rock solid and that's how I view the theory of evolution. We'll certainly see it updated, possibly contradicted but it seems to illustrate how humans have demonstrably altered over time. I am reasonably certain that we've been around for significantly longer than 6,000 years here and earlier forms evolved to become us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A hundred years ago. there were lots of things we didn't know but do now, no one knows what we will know in another hundred years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Evolutionary atheist..!

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By *eLuv2PlayCouple
over a year ago

Alpena

Creationist here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Since "evolution" is just a theory I'll always believe in a "creator" because logic tells me so

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

"Creationist here."

How was the apple?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Since "evolution" is just a theory I'll always believe in a "creator" because logic tells me so

Logic?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Nice to see a couple of brave souls here who refuse to follow the herd

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall

Evolutionist & despite being brought up within the Church, now a firm non-believer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nice to see a couple of brave souls here who refuse to follow the herd"

Why is it "following the herd" to believe a certain thing?

I believe in evolution regardless of what other people believe.

Some could say that believing either is following one herd or another. I haven't read anyone on here that has come up with a whole new theory.

Most people in the UK believe in evolution. So most who post here will too. Describing it as herd mentality is inaccurate.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's stuff that both sides can't argue any way near satisfactorily. But on balance, evolution appears to fit what I can see and thr science I understand; whereas creationism appears to just be a convenient story to fill in the blanks when science didn't exist.

We've moved on a tad, so religious theories should move too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

Most of science seems to 'peddle' as an absolute that creationism is unfounded.

It is my opinion that both early creationists as well as early scientists have got it wrong. A 6 day creation 6000 years ago or early theories of gravity.

Science is a belief system in my opinion, and I'm certainly not trying to defend creationists!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

That's a complete cop out and you know it, there's a massive amount of evidence for evolution and... Fuck all for creationism

I belive there's little men in my mobile phone that transmit date through bongo drums when I'm making a call... Of course that's fucking bollocks, it sounds bollocks, and quite frankly I'm making it all up.... Ring a bell..

Oh yes religion... It's bollocks, humans made it all up because we're afraid of death... Get over it!

Of course I could say, I belive the open minded I am about little men in my mobile phone the more intelligent I become... Fuck off, no I'm cunt believing in shit for me reason or rhyme other than it suits my outlook!

Religious people are the biggest fucking hypocrites ever... They sit and fucking preach all day about how good the afterlife is but as soon as one of their relatives die... There wailing and sobing like... I dunno they've died and there'll never see them again!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We were seeded by aliens from a far off world.

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall

"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

That's a complete cop out and you know it, there's a massive amount of evidence for evolution and... Fuck all for creationism

Oh yes religion... It's bollocks, humans made it all up because we're afraid of death... Get over it!

Go on, sit on the fence a little longer

(You typed what I was thinking & dared not to type lol )

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Most people believing in something does not make it right; just means its a popular belief and that some of those people become part of a herd mentality

They don't think things through; they just follow where the majority lead them or do it to appease or ingratiate

They denigrate an opposing view, as has happened in a few of the comments

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Bottom line:

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

People don't half believe some toot

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

What if it's all a big conspiracy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most people believing in something does not make it right; just means its a popular belief and that some of those people become part of a herd mentality

They don't think things through; they just follow where the majority lead them or do it to appease or ingratiate

They denigrate an opposing view, as has happened in a few of the comments

As I said above, I think you're wrong to call it a herd mentality.

The people I know believe in evolution because of evidence, not because other people believe it.

Of course denigrating other viewpoints is wrong, in most circumstances, but that has nothing to do with following the herd.

-Courtney

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Evolutionist.

I once had a creationist physics teacher, which seemed an odd combination."

Not really, there is a creationist called Dr Grady McMurtry, who used to be an evolutionist and taught evolution, but then switched over to creationism, as he claims the more he learned about evolution, the more it didn't make sense and many things just don't add up. There are some interesting videos of Grady McMurtry on youtube, he has a Bachelor of science in forest management and general sciences from the university of Tennessee, and Master of science in Environmental studies from state university of New York. This guy is a scientist but believes in creationism. So far Richard Dawkins the evolutionists champion has refused to debate Dr Grady, so what is he afraid of? I'd love to see them debate each other as some of Dawkins debates with other creationists are quite entertaining, lol.

I'm not a creationist, and i'm not an evolutionist either, truth is i don't know where we came from or how old the world is but i have an open mind to all kinds of possibilites as to where we came from. Its not just an issue of evolution or creation either, other theories exist such as is the human race the product of an alien experiment (watch the documentary series called ancient aliens), or is the world we live in a computer programme something along the lines of the matrix as the universe we live in does seem to be restricted to certain mathematical equations. Science can't explain everything and there are all kinds of possibilities out there......

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over a year ago

"We were seeded by aliens from a far off world.

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Yeah, there's more likely hood

Oooer a creator with green hands and six fingers...

In fact actually there more likely to be based on... Oh I don't know carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, the four most abundant elements in the universe... Which is pretty much what humans are as well!....

Oh look... Were just like the universe... There must be a creator... Hallelujah praise the lord

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over a year ago

"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

That's a complete cop out and you know it, there's a massive amount of evidence for evolution and... Fuck all for creationism

Oh yes religion... It's bollocks, humans made it all up because we're afraid of death... Get over it!

If you look at how your mobile actually works...how you can press keys and that creates something, then you can send that something through the 'air', i mean how did anyone even figure out you could do something like that in the first place? Same for computer languages, how did anyone even work out to do this stuff? Even human speech is pretty incredible that we made that up and have the organs that enable this.

As for death, it's not hypocritical. People have a gap in their immediate life that nothing but the person they miss can fill, until they get used to filling it with someone else. That's pretty amazing in itself when you think about it, and we have theories (that make sense) as to why we form attachments but nobody knows for sure. We even know how those attachments are formed but not why.

None of these things are evidence for anything i can see, or not see, they just are.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

It is impossible to argue a point of view in the face of such hostility and almost abusive comments. One starts and the others follow

Whilst in most other matters this kind of language will not be considered appropriate, it is when targeted towards any religious belief. Quite sad, really

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over a year ago

"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

That's a complete cop out and you know it, there's a massive amount of evidence for evolution and... Fuck all for creationism

Oh yes religion... It's bollocks, humans made it all up because we're afraid of death... Get over it!

Your response made me think of the philosopher Alan watts - the real you....

Either way, I don't think the two are completely exclusive... There is a grey area, let's call it the dark matter we don't understand yet...

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"It is impossible to argue a point of view in the face of such hostility and almost abusive comments. One starts and the others follow

Whilst in most other matters this kind of language will not be considered appropriate, it is when targeted towards any religious belief. Quite sad, really"

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over a year ago

its not that hard to imagine we might be in a Petri dish..like many of the lifeforms we study on the microscopic level..I doubt they know of our existence, and we could be the same..just never knowing what lies outwith or grasp of reality.

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"It is impossible to argue a point of view in the face of such hostility and almost abusive comments. One starts and the others follow

Whilst in most other matters this kind of language will not be considered appropriate, it is when targeted towards any religious belief. Quite sad, really

This is completely not true. I could point to any number of threads on foreigners, politics, immigration, etc. that get the same hostility. If I believe something, I argue for it, regardless of the language used against me.

I only give up when my arguments can't stand up any longer. But I would always argue the issue, not that I don't like the attitude of the opposing side.

-Courtney

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"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

That's a complete cop out and you know it, there's a massive amount of evidence for evolution and... Fuck all for creationism

Oh yes religion... It's bollocks, humans made it all up because we're afraid of death... Get over it!

No it's not a cop out, it's an honest answer as to where I am with this topic and I have taken the time to study the argument of some very well educated creationists who have zero belief in the 6 day 6000 year argument and have fully acceptanced the evolution argument.

I've moved from being athiest to having a more agnostic position so you certainly won't find me defending religion.

Oh and please don't tell me what I know, you have very little idea of that.

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"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

That's a complete cop out and you know it, there's a massive amount of evidence for evolution and... Fuck all for creationism

Oh yes religion... It's bollocks, humans made it all up because we're afraid of death... Get over it!

None of these things are evidence for anything i can see, or not see, they just are."
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I know how mobile phones work!

I was being pedantic!

Of course I could argue that science is wrong, that all the facts aren't in yet about how mobile communication works... But quite frankly people who wanna belive bollocks... Will never be persuaded of anything else, people who are sane go of what we know...

When we discover heaven and that big bearded bloke I'll change my rationale, until then it's bollocks with no proof whatsoever like my bongo drums in my mobile or Scientology or Mormonism, or Judaism or Islam.... The truly open minded people see that, that's why were open minded, because we belive in stuff we have proof for and change our beliefs to suite... Hell the evidence, you know like the earth going round the sun or the earth being round or the earth being 4 billion years old or.... Humans evolving

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over a year ago

"Evolutionist.

I once had a creationist physics teacher, which seemed an odd combination.

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over a year ago

"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

That's a complete cop out and you know it, there's a massive amount of evidence for evolution and... Fuck all for creationism

Oh yes religion... It's bollocks, humans made it all up because we're afraid of death... Get over it!

I've moved from being athiest to having a more agnostic position so you certainly won't find me defending religion.

Oh and please don't tell me what I know, you have very little idea of that.

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An honest idea of where your personal beliefs lie, is not what the evidence suggests...

If you'd said, the overwhelming evidence is for evolution but I've got a funny feeling in my Willy that there's something else that I've got no evidence for entirely but I happen to belive it....

Then I'd have said, that's OK, your entitled to your beliefs like other people are entitled to belive that they exploded the twin towers with thermite, or that the queens a reptilian who controls the world with mind control!

All of which could be true, yes they absolutely could be true, just like creationism or God... There's just not much evidence so it slips down there to the 0.00000000000000001 chance

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"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

That's a complete cop out and you know it, there's a massive amount of evidence for evolution and... Fuck all for creationism

Oh yes religion... It's bollocks, humans made it all up because we're afraid of death... Get over it!

None of these things are evidence for anything i can see, or not see, they just are..

I know how mobile phones work!

I was being pedantic!

You believe your post shows you have an open mind. I don't.

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over a year ago

Only a closed mind belives in stuff for no apparent reason!

The illuminati were attacked for being open minded about... Evidence not wild speculation

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By *rotiquexxxMan
over a year ago

Unquenchable Desires

"Weird question for a swinger site: are you a creationist or evolutionist? "

Neither because I do not adhere to American beliefs

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over a year ago

"The only thing I believe is that we do not know.

I do not agree with fundamentalists from either the scientist or creationist arena.

Anyone who tells you they know definitively is probably best avoided.

That's a complete cop out and you know it, there's a massive amount of evidence for evolution and... Fuck all for creationism

Oh yes religion... It's bollocks, humans made it all up because we're afraid of death... Get over it!

None of these things are evidence for anything i can see, or not see, they just are..

I know how mobile phones work!

I was being pedantic!

Yeah but we have our phones and programming languages and it doesn't make sense that we even have them.

Same for germs, someone had an idea what germs were without anyone being able to physically seeing them everyone called him insane for believing that until one day a microscope was able to see them and observe them.

I tend to think religion is abused by many people, i definitely don't follow one (or need/want to), but if other people believe in that then we just don't understand why or how they think. They've rationalised religion in their head and it's only when they're dangerous because of it is when we need to step in a say they're wrong. So what if they think the earth is 6000 years old? How's that causing any harm to actual archeologists or anyone like that?